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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, March 09, 2009 Page 16 Further discussion included impacts of this motion on outcome-based budgeting for 2010; advantages of an outside look at day-to-day City operations to provide services and programming; assessment of qualifications by staff for proposing firms, without formal bid procedures; and the need for a more detailed scope of services for Councilmembers to consider based on the desired outcomes. Mr. Miller noted that staff, while drafting a scope of services outlining general pa- rameters for the firm's role and the City's expectations, attempts were left to pro- vide some leeway to guide a process based on a firm's familiarity and expertise, Councilmember Roe, in terms of the Council being involved in the RFP process, suggested that a subcommittee of Councilmembers be involved in drafting the scope of services, based on tonight's action of the entire Council. Councilmember Pust concurred with Councilmember Roe's suggestion; opining that this emphasized the need for additional conversation between staff and the City Council. Councilmember Ihlan supported the City Council having a say in shaping the scope of services requested and which contractor was chosen; however, expressed her concern it that process was short-circuited. Councilmember Johnson reiterated his concern that, even going through this budgeting for outcomes process, at the end of the year, the City Council would still be at the mercy of the economy and/or individual Councilmember reaction to the economy. Roll Call Ayes: Roe and Klausing. Nays: Ihlan and Johnson. Abstentions: Pust. Motion failed on a tie vote. 14. City Manager Future Agenda Review 15. Councilmember-Initiated Items for Future Meetings a. Twin Lakes Property Maintenance Code Enforcement (Councilmember Ih- lan) 16. Adjourn The meeting was adjourned at 10:44 p.m.