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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, October 12, 2009 Page 19 Discussion included level of services and available facilities impacting senior citi- zen and arts programs; satisfaction related to offerings available or demands; number of programs versus expectations and available facilities; the accreditation process related to maintenance; and fee-based portion compared to property-tax supported programs and services. Mr. Miller noted that, in Phase II of this. BFO process, an additional column will be added showing program-related revenues attributable; and how much property tax will be needed to support all 140 programs. Further discussion included those youth programs that are self-sustaining and not relying on any tax dollars; and additional facility and staffing costs. Councilmember Johnson opined that this is where application of philosophical values and community contributions came into the picture (i.e., girl's gymnastic program) and the need to be mindful of the intrinsic value of programs and ser- vices to the community; as well as the need to continue youth programming to provide positive activities. Discussion related to miscellaneous areas included set-aside funds included in the 2008 referendum for major repairs and replacements; information technology (IT) funding requirements; surplus monies generated by the License Center, and up- coming facility and equipment diminishing those surplus funds; development of an in-place cost-allocation sharing model for the shared IT fund and applicable indexing on a percentage basis; and maintenance, .not reconstruction of the path- way system. Councilmember Ihlan renewed her motion to get a proposed budget by the end of October in order to have a "big picture" budget and line item proposed budget to put the rankings in context. Councilmember Johnson sought clarification from staff that it was staff's intent to provide that information. Mr. Miller concurred that, once priorities had been received from individual Councilmembers, astaff-recommended budget would be presented based on those priorities, and was earmarked as Phase II scheduled to take place at the November 9 or November 16, 2009 regular meeting. Acting Mayor Roe opined that this fit into the general timeframe requested by Councilmember Ihlan. Councilmember Ihlan opined that this was much later than her request; opining that the Council needed clear trends to set the budget, and that a basic, staff- proposed budget was necessary, as presented in past years, and identifying budget