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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, November 09, 2009 Page 14 reduction in both of those budgets, and questioned whether this was based on potential grant funding for either to replace the tax-supported funding or actual costs. Councilmember Roe noted that the City Council had re- cently changed the HRC role and added some things to their slate, and in- dicated that he wanted to make sure they were fully funded to accomplish those tasks. Councilmember Pust questioned the $2,250 allotted for the HRC and Eth- ics Commission; and the larger $10,000 allotment for the Public Works, Environment, and Transportation (PWET) Commission. City Manager Malinen advised that, in reviewing the PWET, the amount indicated the amount of time spent by staff in supporting a specific com- mission; with staff time not included in the Ethics Commission or HRC at this point. Mr. Malinen advised that the City Council line item for staff support included staff time for the City Council and all advisory commis- sions; noting that in the next iteration of the process, they would be more clearly defined. City Manager Malinen advised that staff had noted tonight's comments of individual Councilmembers; and would further refine the next presentation accordingly; with that presentation providing for "decision packages" to be inserted (i.e., wage and benefit packages; capital funding; inflationary funding; fuel costs) in the equation. Discussion included which items were included in the process and those that were not. Councilmember Pust requested that all budget impact and City Manager- recommended items be included in the proposed 2010 budget for City Council and public consideration prior to the next meeting. Councilmember Ihlan noted in Attachment A, Budget Expenditure Sum- mary, in past years supplemental background information had been pro- vided by staff on those line items; and requested that staff provide to the City Council and public before the next meeting, that information as it re- lated to expenses and revenue. Public Comment Gary Grefenberg, 91 Mid Oaks Lane Mr. Grefenberg opined that, while the rankings and BFO process were good, what should the outcomes be? Mr. Grefenberg suggested that this was what the public deserved as a sense of what the outcomes will be gen- erated by the rankings. Mr. Grefenberg noted the attendance at the com- munity meetings held in August of 2009, with only fifty (50) people in at-