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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, November 09, 2009 Page 15 tendance and City staff defining the answer based on programmed ques- tions when given alternatives of cutting which area, specifically Parks, Fire, Police or Streets; and not given an option for ranking Administration, Finance or Economic Development. Mr. Grefenberg opined that it would be more important to look at the larger community representation in the Imagine Roseville 2025 visioning process and reinforced in the Compre- hensive Plan Update process, which both provided more civic engage- ment, and identified neighborhood involvement as a high priority, creating the new charge to the HRC to facilitate that involvement. Mr. Grefenberg noted that the previous process included pathways, which were given sig- nificant reference in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Grefenberg offered to work with the City Council and staff for the next budget cycle to discuss motivation versus outcome. Councilmember Johnson reiterated his request to staff to send him the Ex- cel file from the October 26, 2009 meeting for his preparation in debating the preferred level of services. City Manager Malinen encouraged Councilmembers to initiate that discus- sion at tonight's meeting as a preface to more refined decision-making. City Manager Malinen advised that staff would continue to define the BFO process so outcomes become more measurable as the process evolved. Councilmember Johnson addressed service levels for Program line #86, page 3 of Attachment B-1 (Parks and Recreation "other;" and "market- ing"). As an example, Councilmember Johnson suggested some sem- blance to get the marketing component and a level of maintenance for out- door ice rinks reallocated. Councilmember Johnson sought information from staff on repercussions; and whether volunteers could be tapped to work on the neighborhood skate rinks, given their passion for continuing this service and providing an opportunity for them to assist. Councilmember Pust opined that this would be a critical way to show neighborhood involvement. Councilmember Pust further noted, in line 87 under Council Salaries that the amount was almost identical to the number needed to keep the outdoor rinks open and maintained and suggested an even trade-off. Councilmember Roe noted the Statutory prohibitions for any 2010 budget actions and until after the next City election. Councilmember Pust noted that the City Council could collectively agree that they would not take a salary and put that money into the General Fund.