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1 Joe Samuel explained the impervious surfaces. Approximately 30% of the Langton Lake <br />� shoreland management area (within 300 feet of the shore) is impervious. In the proposed <br />� master plan development, the impervious surface is reduced to 23%. Chair Mulder asked <br />� what the entire site master plan impervious area was (78% existing vs. proposed at 70%). <br />5 <br />�� As requested on October 6,2004, Michael Noonan explained what the development <br />� might look like from the park. Tim Whitten, Rottlund Architect, explained the setback <br />� view of the senior buildings in the background and townhomes to the west, behind the <br />� trees in Langton Lake Park. <br />L �r <br />I1 <br />I� <br />L3 <br />L� <br />I� <br />I �� <br />I" <br />I$ <br />I� <br />�� <br />,� i <br />�� <br />?� <br />?� <br />�; <br />�� <br />�F <br />�� <br />�� <br />��1 <br />31 <br />�� <br />x� <br />�� <br />�� <br />��, <br />�� <br />�g <br />Michael Noonan explained the "round-about" idea which originated with the public <br />works staff and Utilities/Public Works Commission. The "round-about" can be an <br />effective traffic management tool. Duane Schwartz, Public Works Director, explained <br />four reasons for use of "round-abouts": safety, efficiency, no additional maintenance, <br />better aesthetics and costs. <br />Steve Wilson, the city's traff'ic engineer, noted that 20,000 trips are generated by the new <br />Phase 1 proposal. The peaks are 10% (2,000 trips) of the total. He gave examples of <br />peak traffic for four types of uses: <br />800 trips peak hour Big Box <br />600 trips peak hour Support Retail <br />200 trips peak hour Off'ice <br />400 trips peak hour Residential <br />In Phase 2 additional traff'ic could add 1,500 trips in peak times. <br />Chair Mulder asked if the peaks are at different times for different uses. <br />Steve Wilson explained traff'ic distribution: 20% to north 35W and 15% to south 35W. <br />Chair Mulder closed the staff/consultant question and ar_swer portion of the meeting. <br />Robert Rouda, 946 Lydia Drive, asked if bike and bus or other mass transit might be used <br />in relation to the site. (Bike and pedestrian areas are in the Plan). What trolley could be <br />used? On another issue, are the trees deciduous? (Yes) What would be the view in <br />winter? <br />�� Meg Rattei, 3063 Mt. Ridge Road, asked for details of new 7050 rules effective in 2005 <br />�� and the impacts on the site. They regulate non-source point pollution and the water <br />�] quality o f the lake. She explained phosphorous, clarity and development impacts. The <br />�? lake does not meet those roles. The PCA will evaluate the lake to determine impairment <br />�� from non-source point pollution. The PCA can establish a development moratorium on <br />�1 the lake's watershed. The Planning Commission should do a TMDL study; it should be <br />�5 done to monitor and clean the lake. Ponds do not take out soluble phosphorous. Water <br />�b can be treated by infiltration or use of alum. <br />Page 4 of 12 <br />� <br />� <br />� <br />