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Roseville PWET Commission Meeting Minutes Page 8 ~ October 27, 2009 others based on their understanding of the importance of water quality and their visual example for easy compliance. Member Felice opined that, if this started as an educational process, with them seeking permits to hold the car washes, it could become common practice after 2-3 years. Mr. Schwartz noted that this was a good question for the City Attorney, whether educational or permitted activities were included; how to distinguish one from the other; and how to define by the number of vehicles. It was the consensus of members that most residents wanted to do the right thing, but may be unaware of the impacts to water quality of their personal or individual actions and activities. Additional discussion included the compliance of mobile washing trucks; compliance needed for carpet cleaning businesses with tanks on their trucks; whether community-based groups, earning money, should be exempted if they could prove that they had a process in place to manage suds, and had sought a variance or permit from the City to wash cars in a community space; and clarification that it was not illegal to wash a car, only to discharge the water into the sanitary stormsewer system to educate people that they needed to implement a system in washing cars to keep. the water from entering the sanitary system. Page 3, Section H, General Provisions Add an additional exemption:... unless the discharge conforms with the approved City of Roseville Plan to manage. it. OR ... community-based organizations proposing car washes, or other similar activity, shall submit an action plan to the Public Works Director. Add to #5 ... car washes, or including but not limited to carwashes; to include washing siding (i.e., Lead paint); service-groups; non-commercial entities; community ~:roups... scussion included how the educational materials and fact sheet could iential infiltration systems (addressed in Section I?); with staff the PWET Commission to provide additional to the City Council for on plain or stormwater system prevention plan. Further discussion of Section H included providing for any machine or equipment cleaning, including equipment, cars, or vehicles, confined to pervious areas. Ms. Bloom advised that she would review other language for consistency. Further discussion included clarifying that on the industrial side, no chemicals could be exposed to the stormwater system at all (addressed under Section I - industrial swift?); ensuring that Section H or I included references to unused oil, used motor oil, chemicals or fertilizer and their storage containment.