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MR. REILING: I don't see the need. I don't proclaim to know everything that's back of Ch?rlie here, but I see no reason for that pond to be built as shown. I do see a reason to hvve the storm sewer. I think that has to be done because it's done allover the village. I'd be glad to get along without the storm sewer. MAYOR DEMOS: We do have water going down there now. MR. REILING: And it's well provided for. It comes through end there's an easement for the water running into the lake. I'm sure that general (inaudible) can be followed without building a pond. Charlie may have some reasons. I know there are problems with DNR and Rice Creek so I can't criticize him all the way, but unless I'm enlightened I see no reason for that pond. COUNCILMAN GRAUEL: What segment of that storm sewer line are you saying there is no need for? That proposed area on the top between Lots 23 and 24 there is an outlet from Avon down to the pond to the east and ~lso there is from the pond as it runs south down Millwood to Brenner - that appears to be - that's north bound, isn't it Charlie. MR. HONCHELL: Yes. COUNCILMAN GRAUEL~ All of that goes to the pond again. MR. REILING: Without the (inaudible) the water goes to the east into the low area - into the (inaudible) park. That water drains into there and comes down about where the pond is and through that cul-de-sac piece along in through there and comes out at Lake Owasso, I think, at two locations. But the main one has a 10 foot easement and the water comes through there and no reason why that same thing couldn't be followed. COUNCILMAN GRAUEL: You will have to picture that when there are houses built there. MR. REILING: There will be more water. COUNCILMAN GRAUEL: And I think the thing is to provide a drainage basin. -l4-