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1256 is clearly incomplete and not understood; without benefit of a public hearing. Ms. McGehee 1257 further opined that these are complicated matters and needed more consideration to protect 1258 property owners and to provide appropriately for storm water management. Ms. McGehee cited 1259 several examples, including the new Ramsey County Library and water drainage along Hamline 1260 Avenue; huge asphalt parking lots without rain gardens and /or catch basins; and noted the 1261 requests of single family homeowners adjacent to Har Mar seeking a commitment on the south 1262 side of Har Mar Mall for a buffer other than trees. Ms. McGee stated that people in this 1263 community care about where they lived and what residential communities and commercial real 1264 estate looked like. Ms. McGehee cited other examples (AMC Theater and new Target #1 Store) 1265 in Roseville where residents were allegedly told by City staff that they were not allowed to view 1266 site designs; and that even though the public was told that the Roseville Target store would look 1267 different than other stores, it ended up not really different than their other stores, with no public 1268 input considered. Ms. McGehee opined that "we're getting tired of it," and that this had nothing 1269 to do with the Comprehensive Plan and there was nothing indicating the need to change 1270 commercial zoning districts. 1271 Chair Doherty noted that a number of open houses had been held to -date on the proposed zoning 1272 code rewrite. 1273 Ms. McGehee responded by noting that the people attending this open houses were asked to vote, 1274 and had indicated they preferred curved streets and keeping lot sizes as they were; but the 1275 subsequent report summarizing the public input indicated "nice little lots in nice rows." 1276 Chair Doherty noted that rationale for reducing lot sizes due to problems arising from the 1277 numerous nonconforming lots. 1278 Ms. McGehee opined that that was for the residential part, and the same nonconformities existed 1279 with buildings in commercial areas; and that the City didn't need to adopt design standards for the 1280 entire City to look like "Disneyland," but should be developed as people come up with good 1281 ideas and as things change. 1282 Vivian Ramalingam, 2182 Acorn Road 1283 Ms. Ramalingam opined that there needed to be options for handling groundwater when lots are 1284 covered, such as through rain gardens and other water management options depending on existing 1285 structures; however, she further opined that those systems didn't do anything about air quality, 1286 but trees do and asked that those be held in consideration when discussing pervious and 1287 impervious materials on a property. 1288 Chair Doherty again closed public comment at this time. 1289 At the request of Chair Doherty, Mr. Paschke addressed the groundwater plan at the library site, 1290 noting that any commercial development needed to present a storm water management plan for 1291 approval by the City as well as their specific Watershed District, meeting all requirements and 1292 containment and/or filtration. 1293 Discussion among Commissioners and staff included rationale for not including development 1294 and/or maintenance of natural environments across all districts whether commercial or residential, 1295 with Mr. Paschke noting that there were few commercial /industrial zones left to develop;