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4 of traffic. When was that last survey made? MR. VAN WORMER: Last week. MR. PERMAN: What were the condition of the roads the day the survey was made? MR. VAN WORMER: Two days following the Wednesday storm, on Thursday the (inaudible) were made on Wednesday and Thursday. MR. PERMAN: Would you comment on the street condition itself in terms of the blacktop and its visibility. Was the blacktop visible? MR. VAN WORMER: On Thursday, I believe - I didn't personally make the counts. MR. PERMAN: I know when I travelled the road there was a lot of snow that day and I question the accuracy of that particular count from the 'standpoint when a seven-day survey was made in 1967 we already had an 800 per day count and that's in the Council records and minutes of hearings that have been held on this matter previously. MR. HONCHELL: If I might answer some of your background information, the roadway was counted in 1976 and the east end near the bowling alley had approximately 1600 vehicles on that end at that time. It was counted in 1979 in the middle of summer and had 1070 on the west end and 1990 cars on the east end so the most recent count seems to be in general keeping at least with the previous counts, assuming there's an increase over a period of time. MR. PERMAN: I think anyone traveling the street on that day after the storm would recognize that too many cars weren't venturing forth. The next that I'd like to approach is Roselawn (inaudible) brought up as a connecting link from the west portion of the city as a major feeder to Snelling Avenue. If one travels Roselawn to the east during the rush hours, there's one turn that you can make, and that's to the south. Most citizens won't make the turn to enter Snelling and go north because of the hazards with the heavy traffic on Snelling and this is a diverter. Many of our residents - some that live on Skillman - know thatSkillman is a logical street to take to Har-Mar or the Snelling areas, and Mr. Klein, I believe, is in the audience and he is a citizen who said for years he travels Skillman to Har-Mar. The speeds that were mentioned again by the consultant - at the present time the west end of Skillman has a very natural speed barrier. If anyone has traveled that you can see the condition of the street itself is not conducive to speed.