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9 MR. HONCHELL: There's no way to make that determination. The Council has to review and take all of this into their decision. MR. ANDRE: It's tied in with the streets and, of course, the practical way of completing the streets that are in the process of being petitioned for would be to consider the entire issue. If part of that area is not sewered (inaudible) but it would have a substantial effect on the petitions. MAYOR DEMOS: Clarmar has been petitioned. That runs though A and B. The Brenner petition goes through A and, I believe, C, so in other words, it does have to be considered as one area (inaudible) Lydia also goes through areas D and E so you see it is one project. MR. BARTZ: I live right on your line which is the high water mark, so obviously I'm not going to derive any benefit. I did stop and talk to the engineering department and he said part may be done and part not. MR. ANDRE: Theoretically it can be done, but practically (inaudible) considered in view of what we discussed. MAYOR DEMOS: The streets sort of preclude that. MR. HERBERT JONAS, 3090 North Hamline: I want to (inaudible) Mr. Schifsky about the situation on the northern end of this new proposed storm sewer. The present green line showing the present sewer actually has been damaging the lake considerably - not only the people living there but everyone who uses the lake from the whole suburban area and the city - people from Roseville and St. Paul and surrounding areas because every winter when sand is put on the street the sand comes down the pipe line and has built a (inaudible) in the lake in the swampy area. Secondly, time and again we have had to use our Police Depart- ment to track down people who were (inaudible) dumping oil on the street when they changed oil and it runs down into the lake. Of course it starts spreading also. I would suggest that if this sewer system is filled in and the present drain into the lake is being used, then there should be,either by the City of Roseville or together with the county, a rather (inaudible) settling base to catch all of this. There have been some complaints about po1ution of the lake and I think (inaudible) polution is not something that should be considered in just (inaudible) small context of these lines but as an overall corporate effort with the county and our village next door, otherwise the lake will not exist in 15 years. I'm an ecologist and know a little about it. MR. ROLF IVERSON, 1471 Lydia: I would like a brief (inaudible) what road restoration means in terms of the streets that you tear up for putting the sewer in, do you just patch the hole or pave the whole street, what kind of patch is it and how long is it projected to last? I would also ask that the figures be re- stated again because I thought they were confused when initially