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give you back a wearing surface, a surface you could drive on, so that there were added costs put in on the storm sewer to take care of reconditioning or putting the street back into a road-mix condition. Similar to what exists today. This particular project also talks about a seven ton design, concrete curb and gutter, uniform grade and a uniform crown on the street. MR. LEO BOHANON: So any savings would be if we take out the storm sewer? MR. HONCHELL: That's correct. MAYOR DEMOS: Is there anyone else that wishes to speak? MRS. DOROTHY RYAN, 1511 Clarmar: I was wondering, when you put in the curb for a new street, I noticed on Brenner it stops past the driveway, leaving quite a distance between the corner and up on the lot. Can't that go farther around the corner? On my corner, on Clarmar, there's a fire hydrant. Could they come up to that fire hydrant? And around the corner a little bit? It doesn't look good at all when they stop that far back - halfway in the middle of your lot. MR. HONCHELL: I want to make sure I understand you. You live on the corner, l5ll? Is that what you said? MRS. DOROTHY RYAN: Yes. MR. HONCHELL: That would be north of Brenner. One of the problems we have is that that roadway has no curb and is not proposed to have any curbs. We would have to again work with the Highway Department, which maintains that road, as to how they would like to have the feathering out of the curb occur. By that I mean if it starts high and the full length, full height, and it's concrete, typically what happens is they make a transition from the high concrete curb to the almost zero curb that occurs on the frontage road. It's usually done with asphalt because at some point in the future, we have no idea when, the state may put curb on there and it might or might not precisely fit the elevations they are going to set the frontage road at. By that I don't mean they'll move it up and down two feet or something, but they may move it up and down two inches. That sounds like a lot, but that would make the curb not work. MRS. DOROTHY RYAN: Couldn't they extend the curb farther is what I meant. The fire hydrant is there on the corner, but they stopped back, you know, so it doesn't really look" well - back six or ten feet. MR. HONCHELL: Normally we take it all the way to tlle property line. We take it all the way to the end of your property. That might be where the right-of-way is. I under- stand what you're saying. We'd be happy to consider that, 3