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. '. Minutes of Regular Council Meeting Dec. 14, 1981 Con tours we re reviewed at the south end of Norma, Royal Lane~ Floral Drive and in the park. Hollenhorst said she is opposed to condemnation, opposed to a road th rough the park; does not like the stub at the end of poyal Lane, pre fe rs cul-de-sac in the park. In further discussion Woodburn said that if the road is constructed as a cul-de-sac, it will never be extended; it appears ~J~n~ way to make the connection is through the psrk; feels ~ , rational"" to ask people to take the long way around, when they should access to Floral and Hsmline. Woodburn noted that the traffic study indicateS there is adequate sight line at Hamline and Floral; estimated the line of sight at about 600' . Woodburn . asked the number of people the 20-22 acre park is to serve. Adele Anderson said she didn I t know the number; the park does have a considerable amount of low land. Woodburn estimated Briar- kno 11 and Royal Hills at about 300 lots, average of 3 pe rs ons / house; using the formula of 1 acre/l00 peop Ie, 9 acre park should be sufficient; suggested that a loss of one or so seres msy not be deleterious; feels it is good planning to connect the road to Floral Drive - th rough the park may be the wsy we will have to go. In discussion of the optional north/south connection th rough the Hanson p rope rty, Johnson asked the purpose of the 60' wide strip. Mrs. Hanson said it is part of their property: consists of oak trees and prairie grass, Mrs. Hanson aaid they want to preserve it as it is: noted that if they lose it for a road for Eibenstiener, the Tschidas and Hansons will have to pay for a road we don I t need; we'll lose all 0 f our trees to a road. Hollenhorst noted that the Shorewood Hills area in which she lives is an area with long meandering roads, with only two access points; said she likes it that way; roads are not cul-de-sacs, however. Woodburn noted that the Planner recommends a loop road; also recom- mends a right turn lane at Hamline and Floral. Hollenhorst moved, Council approval of the 16 lot Preliminary Plat of Royal Hills with some type of cul-de-sac for poyal Lane in the park. Motion was seconded by McAllister. Miller noted that this does not preclude a connection to Floral Drive in the future, but feels it is unlikely it will go through, if not done now. Johnson said the City's primary concern has been to maintain a loop pattern of roads for snow plowing, emergency vehicles etc. ; DOW we 1 re creating about the longest dead-end road in the community feels some comp romises are needed to avoid the long cul-de-sec which he feels opens the City to liabilities. Motion did not carry (Hollenhorst, McAllister voting in favor; Johnson, Woodburn in opposition) (2-2). . (Recess) In further discussion, it was noted th at cul-de-sac (100' diam- a e te r) would take a good portion of the park; feels the only people that would use it would be those in Royal Hills, not residents on Colleen. Christoffersen said a turn area of some kind is re com- 'mended for maintenance purposes, and turning of fire trucka, school buses etc. , or extend the road to Floral Drive. Adele Anderson said she would prefer a turn-around of something lesa than the 100' diameter described; prefers a turn-around in the park to extension of the road th rough the park. Mr. Ed Heisler, 1489 Co lleen Ave., asked how much of the park would be needed to run the road through. Christoffersen estimated the road at 34' x 500' (.4 acre) vs. abou t .2 acre for a cul-de- s.c. -5-