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. are we all saying this? Is it wise to have lights? I know a lot of children go out there. There's nothing finer that going out sleigh riding at night. Walking in the evenings, a lot of us don't get the chance except on weekends. The evening lights were beautiful over in Shoreview when I lived there. I used to go night skiing all the time because there were lights. Is that against the principles? I hear we don't have any street lights because people don't want them. Everyone I talk to wants them, so I'd like to know who doesn't want street lights. MAYOR WOODBURN: Can we note your comments? Perhaps they don't go toward this improvement. MRS. UDAGER: Yes. You were talking about using ~e park and that's why I wanted to bring that up. Doesn't it ~mprove the park to use it? I've been over in the park - that's what I was going to get at - how many times, and I see very few people over there and I think it's too nice of a park not to use. Very few people have I seen, and I'm over there an awful lot. I guess that was the brunt end of my remarks. I think we should use it - it's beautiful. . MR. WILLIAM BERNTSEN, 1479 Colleen Avenue: I really appreciate the traffic problems the folks have down here. On Hamline - I think I was about the second citizen to move into Briarknoll No. I and there really has hardly been a morning when I haven't had to - sad to say this - make some driver rather irate after about three or four minutes, coming out on Colleen, sneak in between a couple of cars, and all the head- lights were blinking at me from the rear end. Whether there is one or two or three here, citizens coming into the Briar- knoll No.1 area, we all have similar problems exiting onto Hamline. I think the real issue before the Council here is . . . (Changed Tape) . . . I don't think it's reasonable for anyone to subject them, if suddenly something should be a problem here, to go clear 'out to 96, back over to Hamline and down. I really feel that if this plat - I'm not sure whether it's been approved or not or whether it's in the process - is going to be approved, that these citizens should be given equal access to this and I think the citizens who will even- tually reside here, too, should have opportunity to exit either way. It really is a matter of the welfare and well- being and safety of the people here, in terms of access to the streets. I really feel that approving anything in here - in fact it should have been thought of here - demands equality of access in traffic in both areas. MRS. NANCY KLEINMAN, 4242 Norma Avenue: I would like to address the issue of safety for the children. We have a young child, and I brought her over to the park on several occasions and felt very frightened about the seclusion of the park. It's very, very secluded. I think that if we would have a street it would help. Children don't belong in streets, 20