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> > . they shouldn't be playing in them, but I do feel that opening up that area by having a street there would not only increase our access to the park, but increase the safety for our chil- dren. ' MR. GARY RIPPENTROP, 4120 Norma Circle: Back to what this gentleman was asking about on Floral Drive - I can appre- ciate what the gentleman said a moment ago on Colleen. I think when you do look at that area, I think that you have to, number one, realize that it has not been platted - you're only looking at it at this particular moment - thinking also that those houses that are along Floral - for example, I've been there for nine and a half years now - it's been set quite a period of time and all of a sudden, as Mr. Christoffersen mentioned, you double that traffic flow out on to Hamline, you must have to, as he indicated, you look at that street and where it is a 28 foot street right now, there must be at some point that you do have to expand that or do something to accommodate the additional traffic flow through there. If you're looking at the feasibility, which Pete was mentioning on the whole process, I think you have to also look at that and again, remembering that those homes have been there for a long period of time, most of them in that area, and all of a sudden we're going to develop that. As the gentleman before indicated, I think maybe it should have been looked at in that second development right before Briarknoll Drive, in there, but there are those different accesses and they ask about a restriction that occurs on one of the avenues up there. I think the same restriction occurs if there's something on Floral - there is no way out at this particular point that the exits have to go there. There are those additional exits up above there and so I think you have to look at the width of that street, as well as that traffic there. I also believe, at prior Council meetings, we talked about possibly an alternative coming out on Hamline. As I recall, the State controls north of Floral Drive. Does it not? In other words, the point is, I don't think you, as a Council, or Arden Hills, can do anything about widening it at that par- ticular point. Wouldn't that have to go to the State to widen that, or some kind of State approval? MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: They have State approval. . MR. RIPPENTROP: As the gentleman from Colleen said, yes, there is a problem on Hamline Avenue and complicated by the snow. There used to be, as Mr. Miner was saying before, you came to the stop sign and unfortunately you didn't really stop, you just sort of try to gauge it and shoot on out there. When you're around that 7:30 area, there is an immense amount of traffic coming through there, maybe further compli- cated by Cardiac pacemaker's driveway being immediately through' there. That's a straight shot from Floral right straight over to their driveway, so now when an opening does occur and there's someone coming out of Cardiac Pacemaker, I've sat there for three, four, five, six minutes waiting for someone to come and all of a sudden there's a little 21