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. .. engineer did advise and I made the recommendation that Floral Drive should be connected to Royal Lane. Based on that recom- mendation and the length of the cul-de-sacs, one of the things the traffic engineer stated, in addition to the traffic figures I read off earlier, was that he did not see any particular in- crease in the traffic problem - real heavy traffic problems. There again, traffic engineers look at traffic differently than a resident would. They're looking at large volumes. As far as Floral Drive or Colleen Avenue, these two streets are really not that unusual, although individual people are having problems. The real problem seems to be - and what I'm hearing tonight - is Hamline Avenue. Access onto Hamline Avenue - it's a narrow street. In the future, when Hamline Avenue is up- graded, I would suspect it would be widened to a point where people would have 'better access. A good example of that is Lexington Avenue South. I don't know if any of you have driven that or had driven it prior to the widening, but just by the fact of widening Lexington Avenue, it made it much easier to drive. It made it much easier for people living by Lexington Avenue to get on and off. There was a lot of concern about how wide that street was going to be. But it has proved to be pretty satisfactory to move traffic. MAYOR WOODBURN: Mrs. Zehm, can you paraphrase for us the planner's recommendation? MRS. ZEHM: I don't know if I can paraphrase it, but I think he recommends pretty strongly that the road connection be made because of extremely long cul-de-sacs and for the movement of school buses and fire trucks and police. MAN IN AUDIENCE: Who is Glen Wormer? MAYOR WOODBURN: Glen Van Wormer works with Short-Elliott- Hendrickson. He did work with the State of Minnesota as a regional traffic engineer. I think he may have been the head traffic engineer. He's the one that wrote the traffic report. MAN IN AUDIENCE: Because he says right here that he ' found the traffic did not demand such a connec~ion for effi- ciency or safety. He also stated that virtually all emergency service vehicles come from Hamline into the development. The access is not absolutely needed. That would contradict . . . MAYOR WOODBURN: There are two reports from him. MAN IN AUDIENCE: I'm reading the latest one. ADELE ANDERSON" Park Department: I don't mean to be picking on Mr. Eibensteiner, but is he planning to pay to the parks fund the monies that would be necessary to restore the park, to move the facilities that exist now, to redesign or whatever we have to do to replan the park, to make it what we consider somewhat restored and somewhat useful? We do have a little problem in the front area, conflicting with the 24