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ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION - JULY 6, 2005 7 easement at no cost to the developer to allow a 50-foot radius to be incorporated into the . development. Connnissioner Larson asked if they would need to obtain right-of-way from the daycare also. Mr. Hellegers responded the Developer would need to work with Excel to move the pole and there might be a need to also obtain an easement from the daycare. Mr. Clark stated the other question they needed to discuss was that the traffic engineer study had discussed a 50-foot radius and this did not conform with other street intersections in the City. Mr. Brown stated a normal intersection had a 25-30 foot radius and he was not sure where the 50-foot reconnnendation eame from and they did not anticipate large truck traffic. He reconnnended as large of a radius as possible, but 50 feet appeared to be excessive and 25-30 would be more appropriate. Connnissioner Larson asked if this would stand out as being dissimilar to other streets that accessed Hamline. Mr. Brown replied it would. Dan Soler, Traffic Engineer Ramsey County Public Works Department, stated originally when he looked at the traffic study, he was not sure there was a number in it, but he agreed there should be some type of a radius on that corner. He indicated there are only two reasons why they would want a larger radius including a high number of semi.traetor . trailers using the access and to ensure that when vehicles are turning they end up on the correct side of the road. He reconnnended there be a reasonable radius, such as 25-30 feet. He noted there were no 50-foot radius on Hamline and Highway 96. Connnissioner Zinnnerman asked if the County had any guidelines with respect to radius. Mr. Soler replied they did and the radius ranged from 25-50 feet depending upon the factors, but he recommended a 25-30 foot radius for this development. Chair Sand asked if there was adequate access on Highway 96 to stripe the highway for the turn lane. Mr. Soler replied there was sufficient width for a turn lane and he reconnnended striping and signing be put into place. Chair Sand asked if there should be an acceleration lane for exiting vehicles. Mr. Soler responded there was not sueh a lane anywhere else on Highway 96 and typieally they did not use acceleration lanes on Highway 96 or any other County roads. Connnissioner Modesette inquired about "U" turns. Mr. Soler stated "U" turns were not an issue anywhere there were "U" turns at a protected signal. He acknowledged "U" turns in some areas were a problem and in some areas they were not and it depended upon the location. Connnissioner Zimmerman asked if there was any precedence in there being a sign some . number of feet before the entrance/exit to the property that indicated that there was traffic entering from the right. Mr. Solder replied signage such as this might be helpful. He stated they could look at the sight lines to see ifthis made sense.