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I'm not trying to pacify you or placate you - the points you've made are valid. It simply hasn't been, though, that we find much of a change in driving habits because a street is paved. MAYOR DEMOS: I want to point out that County Road C is 50 feet or so . MR. HONCHELL: It's 51 or so. MAYOR DEMOS: There's a little bit of difference there. Another thing is - if I'm going from east to west - traveling to City Hall - I'm going to take County Road C across. The only time I'm going to go down Western and go across C-2 is if somebody has called me to come and look at this or that. I don't think the average person would. In other words, people who live immediately west of Western may be going up that way, but by the same token, that is the reason that it's an MSA street - it is leading from one to the other - and that's the reason we're doing it under the MSA provisions and not assessing the homeowners. I really don't think that people go out of their way because a street has been done. The other thing I'd like to comment on - we've sat i~ these chambers and got quite bloody a couple of years ago - over Skillman Avenue from Snelling to Fairview. We heard just what you did. A neighbor said to me - not so long ago - from that street - you know, the people who tore up and down there and used it as an obstacle course, are no longer there. In other words, they were talking about people from their own neighborhood - and I hesitate to say teenagers, but that's what they felt - but they said that when they had the pot- holes there and they could make a lot of noise at night - they did it. They said truthfully, those people have quit using that street for that purpose. So that's one case and I make no promises - but that's one case where they say it's better since it's been done - better than before. WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: It's also designated as a bike path ~n here - a designated state bike route. MR. HONCHELL: Technically it's not a state bike route or City bike route but you're right - it is a bike route. There was a study done recently by a City-wide bike committee. They at least recommended that that not be one of the roadways that would have off-roadway facilities added. That's not to say that that has to be the final answer - that was their recommendation, having studied the City. As such, we didn't propose off-road facilities at this location. what we've actually found is that many times when you have this no parking on one side - a parking lane on the other - that the area that's normally designated for parking just doesn't get that many cars parked on it. You may know your street and you may say that isn't going to be the case, but routinely we've found that a lot of times that that marked off area on the one side kind of turns into a neat little walking or bike -5-