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Planning Commission Minutes November 8, 1995 A general discussion ensued regarding the responsibilities of the Homeowners Association relating to the pond. Member Cunningham asked if the fence was to control the children or to create a visual screen. He asked if the area was to be open space, then had the townhome Homeowners Association considered an alternative fence such as a split rail fence. Brenda Bower, representing the Homeowners Association, stated her concern of people using the pond. She stated the Temple could put up hedges or other landscaping materials to detour the children. The pond is private property and has been planted around the edges with prairie grasses and flowers. The pond takes care of drainage for many areas surrounding the Homeowners Association as well as the Homeowners Association itself She stated it could be a beautiful area. She stated she will check the Homeowners Association papers regarding the pond grading. Glen Thomas, 506 Lovell Avenue, stated the Villa Homeowners Association, has not taken a position on this variance. He stated he sees no need for conditions on the site and supports the Temple request. Dr. Walt Mackey, 507 Lovell Avenue, stated that during worship services, the children have no adult supervision, sometimes hundreds of kids are on the site. During warm weather, the children wade into the pond and run around the site. He stated the Planning Commission should know the property is private and that additional parking should be considered as the Temple is expanded. He stated that a fence would help. Chairman Wietecki asked the staff if this was an expansion of the Temple and would it require more parking. Michael Falk stated that it is not an expansion of the worship center but merely relocating learning center activities currently going on within the Temple, into the expanded area. Gail. Westby, 480 Lovell Avenue, asked that the Commission not consider a six foot chain link fence. She supported the request for a variance and liked the open look of the Temple site. She said the Temple Association has been a good neighbor. The messy area to the rear can be cleaned up. She hoped that the Temple Association would use brick on the exterior of the building. She noted that she had never seen children without supervision. She also recalled that the pond was originally a dry pond but now sometimes holds 6 feet of water. She also stated that there is a day care facility within the neighborhood. Member Thein asked if the Homeowners Association had ever considered a fence on the townhome property. Mr. Losey stated that, no, the Townhome Association has no children and it is the children that trespass. Lee Smith, 473 Minnesota, stated that the proposed fence around the entire property would reduce property value. He has had no problem with the Temple. The parking on the street on Sunday's has been no problem. He likes the openness of the site. 6