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City Council Meeting Retreat Tuesday, February 18, 2015 Page 37 City Manager Trudgeon stated that he struggled with performance measurement, noting past attempts and questioning if there was any value from those attempts. Mr. Trudgeon opined that what was important was for the organization to change what they were doing, but questioned if it was important to have a report card, and opined that he was hearing from participants that it was not necessary. Mr. Trudgeon advised that staff already looked at this issue and it was reflected in their budget documents; and clarified that he would much rather focus on inter- department cooperation. In terms of examples then, Mayor Roe suggested that over the next two years, staff identify several instances where it was possible to achieve more efficient op- erations,however that was accomplished. Councilmember McGehee opined that collaboration should not be only for opera- tional effectiveness or efficiencies, but to get a better handle on issues through brainstorming at the staff level. Councilmember McGehee stated that she would be happy for City Manager Trudgeon take on as a goal to have more collaboration as part of staff's weekly meetings and work toward more of those efforts and re- turn to the City Council with two things that resulted from that brainstorming or staff-initiatives of where they had worked together. City Manager Trudgeon questioned if that was more of a City Manager perfor- mance goal. Mayor Roe agreed,but opined it could still also be an organizational goal. In previous discussions about top-down organizations and silos, Community De- velopment Director Bilotta opined that moving forward with a more customer- focused outcome desire, he saw that naturally occurring. Mr. Bilotta opined that the City Manager and Department Heads were already doing it in their roles (e.g. SE Roseville groups being formed and integration of other groups), and the only missing element was that they weren't written down. City Manager Trudgeon stated that he was still struggling in how to quantify it. With nothing yet listed under this category, Mr. Rapp expressed his surprise that effectiveness and efficiency improvements were highly desired as identified by participants,but there was nothing to respond to that desire yet. Community Development Director Bilotta argued that Item #2 will pick up some of that given the Roseville population, opining that staff didn't need to worry about not being efficient. Councilmember Etten concurred, opining that residents considered staff and the City Council to already be efficient as part of the current culture.