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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,July 13, 2015 Page 24 bers willing to go the extra mile and eventually and unfortunately burning out those committed commissioners. Councilmember Willmus noted the need to be cognizant of that no matter the decision made. For now, Councilmember Willmus spoke to leaving the HRC and CEC as two separate commissions; but reviewing their respective charge and scope of duties to determine what is still viable in to- day's reality. Mayor Roe agreed with keeping the HRC and CEC separate, and agreed with re- viewing their respective charges. When revising the HRC charge before, Mayor Roe opined that it wasn't revised enough. While also hesitant, as Councilmember Laliberte had expressed, appointing people to serve on the Ethics Commission, Mayor Roe opined it was worth looking at potential combining the HRC and Eth- ics Commission, and suggested deferring the joint meeting with the HRC sched- uled for August to allow them to hold public and internal discussions with their new members as part of that process. Therefore, Mayor Roe agreed that it made sense to make any changes at the start of the new term in April of 2016, and con- tinue discussion on that process later in 2015 in anticipation of that. Councilmember McGehee noted the ability for any advisory commission in creat- ing out-of-commission task forces as needed. Mayor Roe referenced the Brooklyn Park model, recognizing that you don't need to be on an advisory commission to become involved as a "doer," allowing resi- dents to determine how and where they can make their community better by ad hoc service from the aspect of volunteer coordination, which could be part of all advisory commissions. Councilmember Laliberte spoke in support of deferring the joint meeting with the HRC, and staff's recommendation to allow the HRC to complete their 2015 work. However, Councilmember Laliberte tasked the HRC with giving thought to their charge going forward or if combined with the CEC or another commission (e.g. Ethics); and expressed her concern in moving forward for the remainder of 2015 with only four commissioners on the HRC, while also expressing concern about appointing new commissioners if the HRC evolves into something else. Mayor Roe noted the appointments are not all for full terms. In the next agenda item working on a uniform commission code, Councilmember Laliberte suggested changing that particular HRC tonight to five members for the remainder of 2015. When talking about the scope or function of the HRC, Coun- cilmember Laliberte noted the difference in "doers" and "advisors," but clarified that all of the commissions are intended to be advisory commissions, with the ex- ception of the HRC wanting to be doers, and questioned if that took on some other type of format since she didn't see the HRC coming forward as other commis- sions did in making policy recommendations to the City Council. Councilmem-