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Home My WebLink AboutCorrespondence 1985-1989 Dahlgrent'. f::: :.,".,,� '. `�4�i1-' �.�h':. aF ��;1. i� ;� �' .;�. ¢+ �`Y £.�,. - .4t� ti': � ��, � ,?�rr. 4^� I . December 30, 1986 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren L� SUBJECT: OFFICE PLANI�iING HOURS, DECEMBER 23, 1986 1. �:lifford, 339-9121 J�hn and Eilen Clifford live at 936 West Nebraska Avenue in S�. F�ul and have prcrosed to purchase a new lot proposed to �e divided east of the existing house at the Northeast corner of Victoria and Bremer. The home desi�n they propose to �;�_iid is a four-bedroom, two-story house with a three car _:arage with the garage doors oriented otf the end of the :, ;:ructure . T��is requires about 110 feet of lot frontage a:zd c;�:: this property would require the acquisiticn of the rear of �.�ntigu�us lots on the east involving a stri� of about 20 ��>�t. i'n� lots to r.h� east have previously been approved for =divisi�n i�y George Reiling, although the final plat for _;iis apNroved preliminary plat has not been filed. We sug- :�Psted, thereforz, tliey discuss this with George Reiling. It w��uld appear that the addition of 20 feet to the proposed lots split will be impractical. These folks have a strong desire to live in Roseville and construct a new horr�e � W� s�.�gaested tnat they contact Jim Casey who is considering a land division north of the turn in Victoria at the alignment with Roselawn Avenue. As you will recall, one or two of those lots would be adequate for this house design. 2. Nelson, 489-8857 Tim Nelson of JLN Companies was in with Jim Evans from Buetow Associates, Architects, to discuss expansion of the parking .�; r � i�.�.r rtructure at the northeast corner of Fairview and (:'.cun_'• �c�ad C. Their plan pro�oses addinc r�:neteen additional ,��r�;i*;n �=,;�a�e5 to t►ze -�x� stir.g sixty-cne, pr�.��ucing eiuhty � tiac �=� rs �. ri '^.'' c31 . ii.� s Srr�� d r�z ac�� :..:�p�.i s:.vd by doub] inr, u� ,-;;,, Y,��A�',yrl� ;�.��•�ss r.,,ese `.�.�o rows;� on the w�st side of the ��.,. u�tui L, l:;;;�, � r�, the �aarking ta w� tr�in f if tee� f eet of the � �.1,, ;-;_��,� �, : �r �� i zg:�t -of -way pre • � �ing si�ty-eight feet of ,_�, �. ��g b�:' �; ��i,..il, brinair:� �.r_ t:� r_.o t�:,� ..,�� sting five foot . ...:� �o�i��:�:��a cL� + _ �, buildin�x. 4ve "�..:; ;° _�. �e� they r�iqn� . � :� ... aanr. ;c� .re��..c:,- T,�G w�.��'_:� of_ �h� ►�>�r�_r:a �.l ��r, 5�.:_�..t: -eighC f�et tJ cxi' ."'_,:�:f i.i: �+: ;. r � 7 j�t�T � and K7L �)` '. .�.. d:%I i_i.SS S r i"1. N cont�.�.;uou:.' r� `,_, r��,_� _._; LaLher than l.eavi_ :� t^:� •.��t�.�tl::; five foot ��r.��_:> �� ;a�.�; only. They are going t� :�ok at this possi- �i��t�. Tris z?roperty is zoned industrial whic?-. requires a forty foot ��tback for the pat-�;�ing on this side �� the structure. How- �.ver, as this area �zoeth of County Road C rh�n��es to retail/ commercial developm��°:, land rezone�' t� cne ot the business districts would requ�re `:iA fifteen foot setback. Thus, there �s the optior� o; a��iyir,q for the variance (t� th� fifteen feet ) or rezar�ina t�:e :! a�� to business at this time - +-h >>� r^� =T110�171L. in which ra��: the f l rt ,ez: 1-.�et ��ul;� :.;a ,.. e rec� _1 �. -- �. __ � ■•••a■■■e■ �1 �1 N�VATIVE � � 4 � �IICROGRAPI�I�S a� . D U E TO •�� • � �: �� .. �� • ' � PRC�DIJ�E AN ACC��,�`-��L� � I CR� F I Ll�I I Il�AC� �.� I ' , Planning Office Hours December 23, 1986 l�age 2 The site is 2.45 acres with a building of 129,414 square feet. It was built in 1978 by Neilson and is occupied by �he Glidden paint Company, Apache Contro�.s, and NAPA Auto Parts, wholesale distxibutors. Approximately one third of the building is vacant and there are existing offices of about 3,000 square feEt. They anticipate new users will want additional office space, and that is the reason for the proposed addition of the nineteen additional parking spaces. We suggested that the building could be converted to retail by the removal of a bay on the lower floor on the south side. They are interested in this possibility for the future, but f�r the moment propo�e to expand t�e parking without changing the structure. Tim Nelson informed us that Ramsey County is now back in business providing abstract certificates for names and addresses of property owners. Thus, we are now able to advise persons applying for development approval processes in Roseville about this reestablished service. With resp�ct to th� changes in the site plan on the structure we suggested, and Mr. I�elson agreed, that additional. land- scaping would be provided as a part of the application propo- sal. 3. Sei.gl�, 412-227-6936 Chris Seigle was in with Bob Biersheid (633-8150), representing the Roseville School Board, and Doug DeKoster (a r�altor) to discuss a proposed use for the Fairview Junior High School site. Chris Seigle represents Bradford Schools who awn the Minneapolis Business College which is currently operating in Roseville at 1711 West County Road B(northeast corner of County Road B and Hershel Street). The business college, a permitted use in a B-1 district, was e�tablished fou.r 1�ears age with 8,000 square feet and now �ccup�es 1�,U00 square feet. They c�arrently have 220 - 250 students, mostly full-time girls between the ages of 18 and 19 wori�ing primaril� on secretarial skills. They propose to purLhase the rairview School and utilize 20,000 square feet For classes, with a planned maximum enrollment of four hundred students. They propose also to convert approximately 30,000 square feet to living space for approximately 150 students. The total structure contains 142,000 square feet, of which approxi- mately 50,000 is gymnasium and swimming pool. They propose to work an arrangement with the School Board and/or the City to lease this space for joint recreational purposes. That leaves about 40,000 square feet for other uses. They expressed a desire to continue use of the structure for Senior Gitizens and Day Care facilities. � Planning Office Hours December 23, 1986 Page 3 The classes run ten months within which elis tnormally 1�000� clock hours of classes. Attendance tim skills �.re a.m. to 3•30 p.m. Secretari�l and �heyuarencontemplating their principal curriculum; however, an Associate Dec�ree Program for th.e future. Parking for tlle school would require app roximately three hu ndred parkin� spaces and there are nou�d behrequiaedslxty- four spaces. Thus additional park�.ng w e informed t.hem that the outside reCRoseville frecreatianal W art of the the site are an integral p roach this development site for system, ar�d the way to app ur oses is to dedicate the athletivinacthetscho�l tof school p P twel�e acres), relie g City (approximately res onsibility of the costs °� raschoolncand general the P facilities would then be available o public use. the R-1 � We noted that the col].ege is a permitted use ln but the addition of student housing requires a district, y�e suggested that they meet with the Special Use Perm�.t• roc�ss so as to inform contiguous neighbors erel�renspecific plans for the site. them even before they p p Rosene, and They indicated theirrchitects� ande engineers. Anderlik as their a the land, and Mr. Seigle indicated his interest in dedicating to an applica- with feasibility studies preliminary estea proceeding through the City. We further sugg tion for processing arking should be done with access off that expansion of p t Road B, and not through the residentand landsbaping on Coun Y ro ram of berming We suggested too that a p 9 south side of County Road B andldexpansionortant ln the arking lot desig� considering new p Bierscheid noted that the School eedlwithrour�nrecoms Robert He agr positive about the propo�he uhandling of the recreational mendations regarding ' ities. We agreed that the tarhetlasteweek ofeJanuaryn facil and submission of material wou1d be t oses a lot split for his property �ahich 4, Nellesen 484-2261 Telford Nellesen prop es 180 feet of frontage on Hein�i� rthis�property uwas includ At one o�ed to east shore of Lake Owasso. but may now be prop five split into two ninety foat lots, divided into a ninety-five foot lot and an hogsey We be the prep- foot lot based on the 1aiais�approPreate1pending and ��ggested that the propos the existing aration of appropriate drawings indicating ot the existing location of thlso�uresenta wilbabe proposed 1 , dimensions. i�r. �ruce Johnsan, who was a P the p�OP osed builder of the home. Plans are not as yet Cbmplete. Planning Office Hours December 23, 1986 Page 4 :� We suggested that if the timing works out, they might apply for the lot split and the shoreline approval of the new lot �` development at the same time. We reviewed procedures and requirements for the shoreline ordinance and the lot split. They are going to try to get the material ready quickly enough for the lot split so they can make the February meeting of the Planning Commission. If that is accomplished, they will �ubmit the shoreline ordinance development proposal with the specific house plans the following month (as tenta- tively proposed). 5. Lumberg, 636-4600 Brad Lumberg, an engineer with Bonestroo, Rosene, and Ander- lik Associates was in with Robert Russek, their staff archi- tect, to discuss their preparation of preliminary studies relating to the development of the Fairview School site for the Bradford School System (Minneapolis Business College). This meeting took place at their special request on December 24 inasmuch as they were requested by Mr. Seigle to proceed immediately with the feasibility studies. We reviewed the same material that we had discussed with Mr. 5eigle the previous day, emphasizing the need for a cooperative effort on the part of the School District, the City, and the Brad- ford people and their consultants. We emphasized, too, the need for an early meeting with the neighbors to keep them w�ll informed as to what is being proposed (even before plans are prepared). Mr. Lumberg talked about the development of single family lots on the southerly part of the site. W.: noted that this would obliterate the principal recreational facilities and that the basic approach the City had proposed and agreed with the Bradford folks was to retain the athletic facilities and dedicate them to the City. We will call Mr. Seigle and reaffirm that point so that there will be no misunderstanding regarding that objective. Mr. Honchell reviewed the traffic considerations suggesting that a third driveway might be estabished near the center between the two existing drives, and confirmed the desir- ability of berms northerly of the parking areas. He noted that the City will be building a pathway on the existing right-of-way which has been alre�dy dedicated at forty-three feet from the southern line of County Road B. We reemphasized the need to not increase traffic through the residential areas as relates to the development of the school site. Mr. Lumberg noted that their firm had prepared a d�velopment plan for the Minneapolis Business College location north o� the Falcon Heights City Hall last year. This program, which included a tax increment element, was approved by the City Council but ultimately was not effectuated by Bradford `- • Schools. Mr. Lumberg noted that the citizens of Falcon Heights did not object to the proposal which included the dormitory facilities and classroom space at a scale similar to that proposed in Roseville. .:, � i., Planning Office Hours December 23, 1986 � Page 5 ,;::� �' We noted that our principal concern with respect to this ,,; proposed development is the dedication of the athletic facilities, a leasing arrangement for the pools and gymnasium space, and the expansion of parking ar�as on the site. Inas- much as the bulk �f the parking for the school is for commuters, it would appear that there could be a joint over- lapping use of the parking spaces for evening and weekend use of the pool and gymnasium facilities. 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Alta Vista Or. �:-L: � a�e Ave. Arona St. R-��;`'J`:�9 s Lane Arthur P1. 8:6 ' �arr;ngton Ave. Arthur St. A:6 Farrington CT. Asbury St. A,Q,J:9 Farrington St. Auerbach Ave. G:19 `. Autumn St. K:12 Farrington Circle Avon St. P.,E,I:15 � Fernwood Ave. Bayviear Dr. �:lg j �ernwood St. Beacon St. � F��:� Fisk St. �Belair Cir. Fry St. Belrnont Lan� � FuTham St. Qisrrarck Ave. Caltier Circle Bossard Dr. H:lg Galtier St. Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Garden Ave. arenner Court A;2 Giesman St. arenner St. q:�; Glenhill Road Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,I0,12-14�18-19 Glem•rood Ave. Brooks Circle �;19 Giuek Lane Bruce St. F:��g Gluek Lane N& S Qurke Ave. i:10-14,19,2Q Grandview Ave. Ca�itol View H:19,20 Griggs St. Capitol View Cir. H:19 Grotto St. Carlisle Ave. J;17 Haddington Road Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Hamline ave. Center St. K:20 Hand Ave. Ch�ndler St. h:l� Heinel Dr. Chatsworth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Heinel Circle Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel Ave. Civic Center Dr. D:12 Herschel St. Clarmar A.ve. A:9,10 H�9�crest Road Ni7ltop Ave. leveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton St. Cohansey Cslvd. ii-J:18 Nuron Ave. Cohansey St. E-G:18 Huron St. Colonial Dr. G:10 Hythe St. Commerce St. H:9,10 Iona Circle Cope Ave. G:15,16 Iona Lane County Roa� B H:1-20 Ione St. County Road B2 F:5-20 Irene Circle County Road C Q:1-20 Irene Court County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. Crescent Lane I:18 , �. 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Sandhurst Drive H:10=12,14,�15;17,19 Sandy Nook Dr. A:17 Sextant Ave. F:9,10,12,15,16,18 Shady Beach K:20 Sharondale Ave. I:5 Sheldon St. B,D,F:10 Sherren St. H:11-15 Shorewaod Cv. & La. A:7 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 Sir��sons St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 Skillman Avc. J:5,6,10-I2,16,20;I:7 Snelling Ave. A-J:9 Snelling Curve E-F:9 Sn?iiing Serv.�r. W B-D:8 Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 Southhill Dr. G:18 S.T.H. 35W A-6:4; G-H:1-4 S.T.H. 36 G-H:1-20 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 S.T.N. 3b Serv. 5 H:3-4,7,8,17 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St, C,F,u,t:16 St. Croix G,H:2 St. Stephens St. H:2 StaRSridge Ave. 6:7-8 Stanbridge St. A:1 State Farm Road H:9 Stuber Road iC:16 .Surr�ar St. K:12 �Talisman Curve D:10 Tatum St. J:5 Terminal Road F:1-3 ierrace Dr. C:7,1Q,11,18;C-D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseih Rd. g;1_2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virginia Ave. C-D:I9 Virginia Circle F:19 Wagener Place k;20 Wagner• St. K:17-19 Walnut St. E-H:1 West Perimeter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. B-K:18 Westwood Circle J:4 WPwers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 lJheeier St. q,g,�,J;7 Wiider St. A,I:S William St. I,J:19 , Willow Circle E:11 Willow La e ;11 i 0 Co . 0 - p�....�....�.�,..■s Woodhil7�� . �-�4,17-18 Noodlynn �� 10,13,14,19.20 Moodruff Ave. I8 ;.......... �I�C�'��TI�� . I . � = Q � R�IPI-�I�S v � NII�C�C�G . �� . . . D U l� �"C� THE F�� C��IDIT,ON QF T�E PRECEEDIN�� DC�CL�MENT W� CA�INO�� RC�DU �E /�N ��CC EPTABLE M�C R4FILM I��AGE.~ ,,,�._-, . �.. �__..�: _. :�._.- . . __ . 1 ... . _ . �, . . _ �v _ � , f ,� r- 4� � � � � January 12, 1987 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, DECEMBER 17, 1986 1• Paster, 646-7901 Ed Paster and Reed Banet were in to discuss a problem of budgeting �n the development of their new shopping center on the west side of Lexington, northerly of Larpenteur. The building is partially up, and it seems that building costs as now projected are several hundred thousand dollar� over budget. They inquired as to the possibility of changing �he exterior material from brick to some other less expensive material. My answer was the City has a firm policy of the same f inish material being used on four �-'n� of the structure, and that there not be a reduction in quality at the back. We noted that the last three shopping centers constructed in Roseville, including the one done by Margol�.s on the o�.d Last Frontier site, were done entirely of brick, the same brick that was proposed and approved for this site. I noted that I would not be Yn a position to authorize a change from the materials proposed, and that in the interest of their investment they should proceed with the brick on all four sides. They agreed to do so, and to look for other areas of savings other than the use of cheaper materials. They also talked about the possibility of an early installa- tion of the traffic light at Roma and Lexington. They have been successful in negotiating with �he landowner to the north of the center to construct a joint access to the two properties opposite RQma where it comes in from �he east side. Clearly a light wi�.l b� needed here, but the County does not have it in its Five Year Plan. Charlie Ho:�chell noted that ordinarily this light would be divided one-half with the County, one-quarter with the City, and one-quarter by the developer. Ed Paster noted that they would be willing to fund this light with the understanding that when it comes up for budget they could be repaid. Charlie said the Gity would do what they could to get the light in early, and would talk to the County people regarding how this might be done. 2. Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell was in with one of his assistants, Randy Engels, Architect, to discuss their revised plans for the P.U.D. for the removal of the Mr. Donut shop north of McDonald's, and the construction of a new Kentucky Fried Chicken and the redevelopment af the site. I reviewed the plans which appear to be in conformance with requirements, and will work well on the site. r ; �� • � � Fy' Planning Office Hours Page 2 December 17, 1986 We discussed signage, agreeing that the new sign would be in line with the existing signs in the area and that there would be no "twirling bucket" on the roof of the building or the pylon. 3. Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell and Randy Engels then discussed possible use of the Fairview School, which T noted was appraised at $3.2 million (high in my opinion). We ta�ked about the critera and possible uses. Tom noted tha� Senior Citizen's use might be difficult, particularly with the two new projects underway at Villa Park and Rosepointe. I suggested the possibility of a YMCA or YWCA utilizing the pool and gymnasium. There is a YMCA at 694 and Lexington and a U.S. Swim and Fitness Club in the old Cub Food building across Rice Street in Maplewood. Tom notes that architectually renovating an old school where there are slabs on grade (as in this case) is difficult to handle utilities for reworking the first level particularly. We talked about the concept of reuse of the building retaining fifty percent of the land f or open space. I noted that the outdoor recreational facilities at Fairview and Lexington Schools are a plannecl and integral part of the recreational system in Roseville. We agreed that the keeping � of the gymnasium and the pool for community recreation use woulc� be a prime objective as well. We also discussed the Lexington School. Tom noted, in response to our question, that the Library Board has voted to conduct a feasibility sttady on the Roseville site with the possibility of an addition to accommodate their headquarters. Secondly they agreed to study the prospects of making a larger community library at a site in Shoreview with a head- quarters attached to it. The overall program includes libraries at Mounds view, Shoreview, an expansion in White Bear, and a new library in Maplewood. W� review�d the possibility of expanding the site in Roseville by the acquisition of the two houses to the north, the duplex immediate].y to the east (on County Road B), and development of the rear portion of the residential lots fronting on Dellwood� Thus, there would be no infringement on the residential neighborhood to the east. The Library Board has not expressed an interest in the Lexing- ton School site, although the U.S. Postal Service has. Tom noted that the local architect for the Postal Service is Roger Fixsen (phone: 851-1151). The Postal Service for this part of the country (limited to facilities) is officed in an office building south of the stadium in Bloomington. Tom . noted that the Postal Services normally put thEir trucking operations inside. It is these trucking operat�ons which normally are a principal deterrent to the use of postal sites in residential neighborhoods. 5. � Plannin � g Office Hours December 17, 1986 Page 3 Tom will be pursuin of the school sitesg p°Ssible development potential in each City regardin r and will keep in close touch with the 9 an� progress toward either. 4. Hallguist, 869-5�d� Harlan �`" Hallquist was with with Peter Luzaich Master's Realty, Pete has � owner of ERA and Beer Hall at the southwestccornertof Countpizza Parlor Rice Street, and was y Road B and Hallquist (a desi n build comhan design prepared b site g� p yi to review a y Mr. plan for the construction of a new buildinpreliminary site. They w�uld like to g on this building and I su achieve a 3,000 s uare foot adjusted, ggested ways in which the q perhaps with a variance to the setback Could be Street, so as to acco on Rice mmodate the fifteen cars required for a 3,000 square foot building. It a ing the setbacks that this can bepaccomdlbY Carefully adjust- P shed. I suggested they contact the contiguous owners t and the south, and that the building to the south� the east buildingj be considered (a medical provide access between theCtwolsitestwithouteWoys so as to Rice Street. g ing out into I feel that it is important to encourage the redev this site although it is a ver elopment of of the existing structure will beman1asset�toTthetearing down building has no historical significance area. The continued problem in the neighborhood for manbut has been a Y years. Casev 484-225g Jlm Casey was in with plan for his properties east/west alignment of City. Dave Janisch maps of the Casey or his sheet. informed u area, and engineers a sketch of his proposed development off Victaria Avenue contiguous to the Victoria in the southern part of the s that the City now has the topography that these would be avail�ble to Mr. at a cost of $90.00 per half section Mr. Casey produced a survey done b Caswell. that Mr. Caswell or some y I suggested pare a preliminar qualified surveyor should now pre- showed Mr. Caseyyanlexamplelof na the City's to o ra h emphasizing the importance of theptolominary and finaly� I the a P gra h Plat, ppropriate lot lines, drainage solutionln determining sites. , and building It appears now with the new topography tool thG� • can finally come up with a good plan for the developmentasey his property. 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H:19 Carlisle Ave. CeC . 'i��N� � 2 ' �' 10 , 8 r�� g�y 6han er t. •,y Chatsa�orth A,B, , ,J-L:13 Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Civic Center Or. D:12 Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Cohansey Blvd H J•18 � Cohansey St. � E-G:18 Colonial Dr. G:10 � �� Comnerce St. H:9,10 �`� Cepe Ave. Gc35,16 County Road,6 H:1-20 �� County Roa�� B2 F: 5-20 - . County Road.� C. - D:1-2U � .= - County Road, C2 6:1-7,9-12,-I2-.14-,L9,20 � County. Road -D- -- A 1 7;>�2-16� =�-= = Cresae�t Lane� =: I.18 "� � � .� � ��' Chr�;s`� Cir..cle • E 1� �� -� Da�-e Gourt-= , - � ; K: �5 :i: , � ^ � Dale St. C-L:16 r De od AXe. C,I�L:11 • • De wood S�. E-I�11 � � Dionne Ave. L:19 Dionne St. L:12',13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. � Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways ,�ane Farringt� Ave. Farringtoi� CT. Farringtor� St. Farrinston Circle Fernwood qve. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. � Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heine7 Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. . H e; r t. yt na i r� .e -- I e `^,-` � Ione St. . Irene Circle_ v; ��seehine �tdJ a �= �Judi4� Ave: � ;� .�ary�Pla� � �' `*Kent�-St _ �- � Lake�t. Lake� ew Ave . Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �,1I,13 E, , :12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 . A-J:6 � I:2� � I:1� � A:1� � B -D ,1-1 � :19 F:14: I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 =. E-F,-I :8 G-J : Z -" F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 R:10 K:17,18 = H:6 : _ . H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 � H:8 A-L:1Q G,I:19 A-D:15-17 c-is E,H:7 J:7 °�� A,B,G,H•1 K-17 � F:10. K: lI-, � �, C-D:11 : � J:4 - C:18 - C:5,C,6:16-20� - L:11� - C:18� = ;� .'Rlgli �✓ i✓ �� :-tl :2 �C,0:13 .1;11-20 H:3,8,�2 A-L:12 I,L:12 Litt7e Bay Rd. A:17,18 Long Lake Rd. R-F:3 Loren Rd. J:5 Lov�ll Ave. G:13-16,18 Lydia Ave. A,6:1,6-14 Lydia Court A:1 Lydia Dr. A-B:14 - Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 Manson St. B;1 Maple Lane B:1,7,8,20 Maple Lane Ct. 6:19 Marion Rd. ' 1�;3 _ Marion St. B=I,L:20 � Matilda Circle F:19 Matilda St. B-O,F,G:I9 McCarron Blvd. N. J:18-20 McCarron B1vd. S. K,L:18-20 McCarrons St. B-D,H,K:11 Midland Grove Rd. H:4 Midland Hills Rd. J:3 Midlothian Rd. H-I:8 Mid Oaks Lane & Rd. J;8 Mildred Dr. A,6:6 Millwood Ave. 6:7-8,10,13-15 Millwood St. 6:1,19 Milton St. A,H,:14 MinrEsota Ave. G:18-20 Moundsview Ave. J;17 Mount Ridge Rd. A-D:5 Nancy Place G,H:1� Northv9ew St. 6;2p Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Oakcr�st Lane E:19 Old Nighway 8 A-B:1-2 Orchard Lane C:14 asso Blvd. S A-G:16-20 s d. W A-6:15-15 St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 ker I:13-15 �, P tri B:3-4 = Pa 1 S. v`y � A-F,H-J:10 G Patt . A-B:1 '`� -Pineviear• C�:--.__. _.__.K;16 _ • Primrase � Prior . . 5 � - Pri or Cf rc7 e {�:,r'"a -_, Ramb7er Cour.t 0t18- - - � Rambler Rd._ , D�1Q' _ . \ J �- Raymond Ave A=B;4 � ., � � Ri ce St . -� � 1�,t.: 20 : _ _ _ • • Ridgeraoc�La.;M b S ��-� �-- :-� �= f .� Ri dge�o� Ftd. .� A�g,� . � :� -�-: u � � =� Roma AWe': ; � `� � �-ll=�, f�b,14� � �. `� Rose Plac� �:E:I,2,7-12,15Y16,18 Rose Yi s�d Ct. i l: l l � Rosedale Dr. �:3 Raselaxei Ave. J:2-14,17 Rosewood La. N� 5 J:3-4 Ruggles St. K:11-13 Russell Ct. B:g .�� Ryan Ave. ��`" � � �' , =13 5 ; ;� Sandhurst Dr-ive 12,2 , � � ' - Sandy Hoak Dr.. A. Sextant Ave. F:9,10,12,15,16,18 Shady Beach K:20 Sharonda7e Ave. I:5 Sheldon St. B,D,F:10 Sherren�t� H: 21-15 Shorewood Cv. & La. A:7 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,I7 Simpsons St. A,B:9-10;F,J:9 Skillman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 �nelling Ave. A-J:9 Sneliing Curve E-F:9 Snelling Serv.Dr. W B-D:8 Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 Southhill Dr. G:18 S.T.H. 35W A-6:4; G-H:1-4 S.T.H. 36 G-H:1-20 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N� G-2-4 S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 St. Croix G,H:2 • St. Stephens St. I�;2 Stanbridge Ave. B:7_g Stanbridge St. q:l State Farm Road H;g Stuber Road- K:16 :Swrrner St. K:12 �Talisman Curve D:IO Tatum St. J:6 Terminal Road F:1-3 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,I1,18;C-D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseth Rd. g;1_2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virginia Ave. C-D:19 VirginTa Circle F:19 Wagener Place k;20 Wagner St. K;Z7_Zg Walnut St. E-H:1 - West P2rimeter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. 6=K:18 Westwood Circle J:4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeier Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 Wilder St. A,I:5 William St. I,J:19 i�illow Circle E:11 � yillow Lane E:11 i�aodbridge Circle G:20 dbridge Court L• � i 1�°��"� � i Woodruff Ave ��'�`� �t`,� ' ' ' ' a�� •••••••••• INI� C� �ATIVE . . p. = � 4'� MICROGRAPHICS - 4D. � D U E TO THE �'C�CaR C��J�ITIO�I C�F THE P�ECE�DING DOCU M ENT 1l'�/� �AI� h��T PR�[�UCE AN A��iA�L� f�/I I CF��O FI LM I MAC �.� � �_: , � y', •� L � � December 17, 1986 TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren CJ SUBJECT: OFFICE PLANNING HOURS, DECEMBER 10, 1986 1. Rosewood, 631-3254 Peter Hilger was in to review revised plans for their five offic�: buildings for their site at the northwest corner of 35W �nd Highway 36. Charlie Honchell noted our concerns with the east/west road- way shown to be built with the center line on the property line between the Rosewood property and that of the Glacier Park property. Our concern is the resistance on the part af Glacier Park people to dedicate right-of-way. I noted that the Glacier Park property will have other frontage and, thus, we cannot claim a need on their part. I suggested, theref ore, the roadway be shifted to the south, and that the Glacier Park property would be assessed if the roadway were used (which it likely will be ). They are proceeding with the preparation of the EA4d, and I encouraged them to get that ta the City as quickly as possible. I also encouraged their talking to the Glacier Park people regarding the roadway and other elements of cooperation that might be effected. Tentative plans ca1.1 for submission of the application for the February meeting of the Planning Commission. 2. Bransen, 633-3103 Ted Bransen operates the B and Dale Amoco Station which he leases at the northeast corner of B and Dale. He wants to add an enclosure in the form of a solid fence for storage purposes. It appears this can be accomplished, but I suggested he get a survey first, to determine the exact location of his faciliti�s relative to the property lines, and to come back to the City with his specific proposal. 3. Schaar, 636-0380 Lou Schaar was in with Chris Kringel and Artie Holmquist, both of Edina Realty (636-3760), to review Mr. Schaar's proposal to purchase the old Por�derosa Steak building which is now occupied by a telephone store and Bob Renstrom's dental laboratory. ❑ � Plannin Of ' � g fice Hours December 10, 1986 Page 2 He proposes to remodel the building to retain 600 square feet for the telephone store, 1,600 square feet for the dental lab (reduced in size), and 2,�00 square feet for a pool hall. The pool hall would have ten tables, and require about twenty-one parking spaces. There would be no liquor, and much of the pool hall use would be for league play. He notes thats the charges run about $3.30 The use is permitted in a B-3 Districtr hour for pool p1ay, I suggest�d, and he agreed, that in the this building that they would installprnewsscurbsemonelthe property on the east end to define the existing two driveways to Rice Street. Currently there is a sea of asphalt, and poor delineation. Although this curbing is not required, we agreed that it would be an appropriate thing do to, so as to make the access and egress safer and better in appearance. In effect then the easterly side of the parking lot would be redone conforming to the fifteen foot setback requirements, including the curbing of the two driveways. 4•�' Wintz, 646-1828 George Wintz and Dick Anderson were in to discuss a minor variance and a shnreline zonin a at 1245 Josephine Road. Th�g pproval for their property building which a Y Propose an addition to the tures fronting onpLake Owassolnbutnlesstthanethelseveg struc- feet required. The proposal appears a nty-five prepare it on an existing survey with the�intent�ofThey will it into the City by Dec�mber 2Z, getting 5. McTavich, 871-5615 Ian McTavich and Tom Barbeau are from Paul Pink's Architectural Company who were in wi�h three fellows from the Scenic Sign Campany (25�2-g400}: Mark Ree, Rich Feneis, and Ken Kloskin. They brought in a set o� drawings defining a signing policy for the Pavilion Place Sho include identification for individual shopspwith aCestandard set of letters 24" high, to be done in white plastic face letters, lit fram behind. We reviewed the method k�y which these were going to be established on a continuous line, suggestin that the �ource run behind the letters rathe.r than gunderneathp�the letters, thereby reducing the mass of th� of the letters fall well within the graphics. The size limitations. Prescribed sign ordinance They note that the movie theaters and the health club are doing well, but that the retail stores are not doing as well, and appear to lack identification. We also agreed that the interval b�tween identitication signs will be at least six feet. �. � � . • • Planning Office Hours Page 3 Decem�er 10, 1986 They will revise the technical drawings and submit them to the Building Inspector as a signed package within which any future signage will be required to conform. 6. Bayless, 455-7100 Arlene Bayless, a realtor, was in with Dennis Cavanaugh and William Sikora, architect representing the C. G. Rein Com- pany who propose to purchase the Soo Line site at the south- west corner of 35W and County Road D. This is a 3.7 acre site on which they propose to build a 23,800 square foot shopping center. The rent would be $14 per square foot with shops generally fifty to sixty feet deep. The proposed users include a pizza restaurant, drycleaner, restaurant, dental service, chiropractor, video store, loan and thrift, and/or a bakery. They claim to have fifty percent of the space pre- leased. We reviewed site plan concepts, requirements, and procedures. The land use would have to be changed from industrial to business, and the land rezoned from industrial to B-4. I suggested B-4 because it requires a Special Use Permit for site plan approval and landscaping of the parking area at three percent. They will b� back wi�h revised drawings and application requirements. No request was made for any tax increment assistance, so that the proj�ct could be added to the plus side of the ledg�r as noted by Craig Waldron. 7. Finlay, 642-1858 David Fira].ay propases to mov� an existing hous� from a storage area in Hugo, Minneso�a, to Roseville to a lo� an th� south side of �urke Av�nue at 992 Burke. This lot and the one to the south, which has been divided, �ronting on Parker was formally retained for storm sewer purposesr but is r�ow no longer necessary because of th�� n�w storm sewer construction. I inform�d Mr. Finlay regarding the procedure which inc].udes a notification of prQg�xty own�r� within 250 fe�t and a hearir�g before the Counci� only. He showed us pi,ctures of the home wh�.ch appeared to be appropriate for the area. The proGedure also requir�s that the Buildin�g Inspector insge�t the property of �he house prior to the application. 8. Wachholz, 645-8649 Ju�ly wachholz lives at 2796 Western, and praposes two car garage in her r�ar yard which wi11 r�quire a nine foot driveway on �he north sid� of her house. of thE location af her existing home, this driveway two and one-half f�e� f�em the progerty line rather requireci fi.ve feet. She was, therefore�, instructed requirements ancl proc�dure� for proeessing a minor which appears to be appropriate in this cas�. to ad�d a extending Because will b� than the as to the varianc� , . � � • Office Planning Hours Page 4 December 10, 1986 � 9. Boschee 3 , 37-1594 Kate Boschee is an attorney with Leonard Street and Dinard, who represents Aldrich, Eastman, and Waltch, Inc. Investment Advisors to a pension group officing in Boston, Massachu- setts. Stephen Roger, from the inve�tment advisors' firm, was with Kate to visit the staff regarding the potential impact of road changes on properties they propose to pur- chase f rom Don Roberts in Roseville. They are in tile pro- cess of purchasing ten buildings on seven sites, one of which is the affice warehouse structure on the south side of Terrace Drive. This gension trust represented by Aldrich, Eastman, and Waltch, Inc. also has investment� in Roseville in mortgages on Pavilion Place, and possibly with the Rose- wood Corporation and Woodbridge's Centerpointe. I reviewed with Mr. Roger the backgrounci to Roseville's unique strategic position, its cur�ent developtnent pola.ces, and its desire to improve acc�ss to facilitate redevelopment of its older indu�trial areas, many of which hav� be�� use�d far the transportation industry. Utilizing our air photos and sec�tion maps, we looked at the possible impact of extending the roadway north of Midway Fard westerly to the end of Te�rac� Drive, and possibly to the south where there is an existing fifty or sixty foot easement for common � acc�ss purposes between these properties. Mr. Roger wanted to be confident that such possible extensions would not impair the value of their land. T not�d the objec�iv� was to incr�asc the land u�� potential �hraugh th� ex��nsion of such roadways, and that such extensi.ons wou�.d be planned ov�� a p�riod af time. w� agre�d on the basic merat of such proposa].s, and on the need to examin� them �arefully �o assure their workability functionally and economically. I noted that kh� City's int�rest in such a program w�.11 lik�ly increase th� valu� of his land as lonc� as they are in it for the �.ong pu11 (wt�ich they ar�) . It appear�d that l�r. 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Some of �h� �nits ha�r� on� bearoom withc�ut g�arag�o and some with twQ be�rooms caith one c��arage. They are laokit�g for a site i.n Ros�vi�.1e and are muc21 inter�sted �n community financial �uppart sy�t�ms. � Crai� wa�dron ex�lained th� City's �ax �.ncremen� bonding policy noting the scenara.� wherein bAnd� ar� not sold, but wh�re cash is rebated �o ttae d�velop�r �s th� �x�crem�nts axrivc: on-lin�. � S�1e r�viewed possiblE si��s as d�sxgnated far medium d�r��ity resident,i�l i.� �he C�mprQhensiv� P�an. 2. LinEl�.. 378-9262 �tob�:rt Lin�ll is intex�st@d in dividing wha� was an �:xisting lot on th� narth�rly por�ion of his property a� 1835 Na�rth Chat�wc�rth. A rev�.�w �f the r��cord subst�ntiat�s that �his at onc tiime was a 1ot� and was combin�d for a tax p�riod m�ny years ago. w� r�viewed proc�edures and r�quir�m�nts for a lat split, which in �h�s cas� n�ed a�o� b� platt�d. Existing lot (with a hous�) would bE 94.14 fe�k and th� prcapos�d lot wou�.d b� 71 teet, sirniiar to oth�r lots in the imm�d3.a�e n�ic�hbor- hood. 3. Baxtl�tt, 871-6395 Rdbert Bart].e�t has purchas�d an option on the Ruan sit�, ar�d wa�s �.n with h�s arehit�ct/builder, David Phillips, of Phillips Klein Compani�s. They sh�w�:d us a si�e plan indicating the propase�i �iviSia� o� tn� �.87 acre site into a 3-1/2 acr� site (�ast�rly port�or�) fo� a Chrysler Auto D�al�rship, and � proposed 1.37 acr� site for a future restaurant (west end of the sit�). � Office Planning Hou December 3 rs , 1986 • Page 2 He notes that the proposed building would have feet, and parking for 294 cars. 20,000 square low intensit I noted my concern wifih the Y use, reminding them of S�o�ting to the potential development ofeth�usite°nversations �', all brick, Dillion Inn which would have beenaathree pr�at�• Nir• Bartlett said �hat the Dillion Inn e ppro- the proposal because of their concern about thep °ple dropped saiel that the Ruan people are anxious to sell market. He three purchase agreements within the last three and have had which was Dillion Inn and one was his), He saidyears (one of dealership, r�staurant �hat the car ot �4 mill.ion. ' an� land would equal an evaluation foot. �e said the land value is $4.75 p�r square I reviewed with him the City's concerns regardin lancT use and intensity of use. g aPPropria�� appraach and is s H@ s��d h� unders�anc�s our finding appropriate dev�lopmentutoh�e��s h�vin noted the importance that the Cit that cri�eriaCu�.ty '��'��pment o� Y attaches to the ultimat� this prop�rty inasmu�h as it f�anctions as a gat�way ta tihe Long Lake Road access �o th� v�r developm�nt arca to the south. Y important is not a p�rmitt�d or a special us�ain theeB-4tD� �ar ag�ncy suggested t�hat we cor�tinu� to work togethex to arri��cfi. � � mor� appropriat�e and more effici�nt land us� at a 9. Aistrict 623 633-8150 Propo5al. �o� Hi�rsc}�eid o� the Roscville �c�oQl Distric� w r�view wa.th the staf� (including JYm Andr�) th� �,a� in to the Prop�rty/�acili�y �tudy Comnnitte� @f�o�ts, an �sul�s ot us of the po�si}�le rest�lts as tentatively determin�dt� i��orm �am�. �mphasis was on the scho4l loca�i��s �,n Ros �t th�s also gav� evill�. He k�roperty/�acility S�ud�pCommitt��whWKitt�n arepor� of th� i�h is att�ch�ed � Th� battom l�in� is thcr� �s a str�ong liklihood tha Fairv.iew �7unior HigiZ sit� an�l the old Lexit�gto� � both th� sxt� wil.i b� sald. Th� F'airview site has 21.7 ��1��'�ntary bu3.lding of 1Q2,595 square �eet valu�d b r�s �it� � canduct�d for �he School Board a� �3.2 mil�ion�c�WhicPpra�.sal �3.34 p�r sguare foot� The Lexingtcan site, cansist• h equals acres with a build i n� o� � 1, 2 7� s ua�@ �� l x � c� o f 8, 3 � 1. 5 m i l lion, which �qu��s �q.3A q �• is valu�d at iact t�aa� both of thes� �cr �quar� foot. Noting the evalua;�ior.� seemed hig�,. �a�c�ls are zon�d singl� family, �h� �h� Children's Home Saci�ty of Minnesota nr�w o�ra� car� at Fairvi�w and i� curren�ly l�unchi� a ca ,�ta�� da and may be int�r�sted in g y purchasin� the sit�, � drivE, � � Office Planning Hours December 3, 1986 C.� Page 3 .� The School Board has also received an expression of interest from the United States Postal Service through Jack Tragiai, who expressed interest in the Lexington site. They have also received an inquiry from Twin City Federal and Rose Galleries with respect to the Lexington site. Twin City Federal's interest, however, would seem more appropriate for the Fair-- view site. We agreed at the meeting that most potential users would likely not consider keeping the Lexington School building, but that potential users would likely propose reuse of the Fairview School structure. � � The overall objective af the Committee's recommendations was to dispose of land and structures not considered essential, and to put that money into capitalizing the construction of additional elementary classrooms which will be needed and likely added to th� Little Canada School. The Parkview School is to be kept as a Community School Center, and is proposed to house a single Senior Citizen's progra�m, a single early childhood education program, and a single preschool development program as well as a di5trict- wide elem�ntary alternative program. Bob noted that the County is also interested in the Cap�.tol View Schnol as a Suburban County Admini�trative Center. �n t�at scenario, the gym and pool would remain open to the public. If that happeras, Fairview would not likely be solci for at least four to fiv� years. Bob notes that Fairview is likely to be sold in at least ten years for sure, no matter what the scenarios. Parkview is considered to be the least salable school with a fairly new structure and thus a.s proposed as a community scho�l cent�r. Thus, assuming the retention of Capitol View as a i�liddle School, th� School District facilities would in�:lucie a i�igh school, one middle school, and six elementary schoals. I not�d that the plan for the oriqinal park and recreational sy�tem for Ros�ville, don� in 1960, incluc�ed the outdoor athletic f�cilities and open space of the school sites as part of the overall public system. Thus, the disposal �g any school s�.te brings up an important question of adequacy of the n@iqhborhood recreatiQnal f�cilities. One of the ways of accommodating this �oncern is to set up a specia� use for limited, non--singl� family use of thE structure wherein fifty percent of th.e land is rEtai.ned for public use, though the density may be applied to the building si�e area, It may be important for the City to begin ta look at such o�tionai use regulations similar to the manner in which the City set up "public scho�l prop�rty use" under which the Fairview and Lak� Owasso �chool sites are now operating. � � � Planning Office Hours December 3, 1986 Page 4 Mr. Bierscheid noted that Lexington School continues to be used by District 196 for offices. The Children's Home Society day-care program now accommodates ninety children. The Lake Owasso site will be left with the continuing long- range lease with Group W. He also noted that Little Canada is opposed to the use of the Capitol View School as a County Center in that there is a December 22 meeting of the County Board, at which time this issue will be discussed. He noted further that he would keep the City informed as the situation evolves. 5. Hurd, 825-6666 Bob Hurd has a string of five "Automax" stores in the Metropolitan Area which are similar to Midas Muffler. Each requires six bays with about 4,000 square feet, with parking for fifteen to eighteen cars. He is looking f or appropriate sites in the northeast suburbs, including Roseville. We discussed possible locations in accordance with the City's Comprehensive Plan, noting the difficulties of achieving such sites in areas where he would like to be (close to Rosedale). 6. Brody, 636-4468 Norm Brody was in with George Applebaum noting the pending sales of school sites for District 623 in Roseville. He talked about the possibilities of swaping the Corpus Christi site for the Fairview School site, and then redeveloping commercial facilities on the Corpus Christi site at the southeast corner of County Road B and Fairview. I suggested that any anticipation of commercial zoning in that area would likely meet with considerable difficulty, and in view of the existing development (primarily single family) in the immediate area would be likely construed a"spot" zoning. 7. Maietta, 636-9000 Don Maietta and Greg Hawkins from Roseville's Mer.rill Lynch office were in to talk about the access condition for the offices they are remodeling at 1781 County Road B. They inquired as to the possibility of full turning movements opposite the north/south driveway on the east side of the property. I suggested they discuss it with the new Ramsey County Traffic Engineer. I reviewed the problems concerning the possibility of achieving this access and some of its assets and liabilities. I noted that both County and City approval would be required. T0: FROh1; i • VI—A FIEMORAN�UM October 21, 1986 t4embers of the School Board Superi ntendent of School s and '�lembers of the Property/Faci 1 i ty Study �ommi ttee- SUBJECT: Property/Facil i ty StudX Commi ttee Report At their regular June 25 meeting, the Schooi 13oard empowered the Superi ntendent of School s to create a property/Faci 1 i ty Study Co�mi ttee comprised of inembers af the 1986 Roseville Area Schools' School Reorganizati�n Conmi ttee, including Roger Wald, Rose�ary Schneiderhan ,1 �lakefield, Jerry Summers, if�;o Gaul, �obert Smith, Ralph G odingaSPaul Borga�d and Vern Yick to conduct a Property/Faciiity analysis for the Roseville Area School s and report i ts fi ndi ngs to the School Board, CHARGES The charges of the Property/Facility Study Committee included the following: � . Exami ne current and pro jected school di s tri ct enrol lment da ta and trends. . Examine current and projected housing starts and/or developr�ent patterns. . Fxamine current district facilities and sites. . Examine current facility expansion options, . Oetermic�e short-term required facility capital improvement needs. . Determine l��g-term desired facility capital impravement needs. . Assess facility acquisition interests (purchase, lease, rental, ?xchange, shared use, shared construction) of governmental, educational, and commercial agencies, insti tutir�ns, or firms. OELIMITATtONS The three most �lari ng del imi tations of the study were time, commi ttee expertise, and the existence of a multiple o� unknown variables, "4ucl� as was the case wi th the school reorgani zation study, time has proven to be a precious and scarce commodity. While the committee has formed strong, � consensual recommendations duri ng i ts three r,anths of del iberation, six, ni ne or twelve nonths of additional study - while it is doubtful alt�rnatP � r�' conclusions and reco�mendati�ns would have been achieved - would hav� been �� more comforting to �11 the Committee members an d the Superi ntendent of D 72 1 VI—A r $Ch00� Page 2 Jctober � t� ,� � VI—A Board t�lembers 21, 1986 Schools. Unfortunately, just as in the case of the School Reorganization Study, the school district does not have the luxury ta spend greater �mounts of time gathering questionably supportive docur�entation to arrive at decisions which are needed TODAY or, perhaps a year or two years ago. The Property/Facility Study Committee is comprised of professional educat�rs �i th the techni cal expertise of professional educators - not r�emographers, futuri s ts, ci ty planners, dev�lopi ng contractors, rea] tors, or soothsayers. By the very nature of school district funding (pupil-based), the educators comprising the Property/Facility Study Committee must adopt a conservative approach in the development of a"best-case scenario" for pupil population increase. Optimistic mis-assumptions yield over-staffing and under-�atilized faci 1 i ties - both extraordi nari ly costly for the school di s tri ct and i ts pragrams and virtually irrecoverable. Consequently, the Committee focused on adopting a"facility game plan" Khich was based on known! conservatively predictable, and cautious pupil population trends, geyond that, the Committee memhers considered a"fall back position" on facilities if, indeed� conservative assessment of future pupil population proved to be unjustifiably pess3r�istic. Clearly, the number of uncontrollable variables in carrying out s�ich a study was a significant limitation for the Superiniendent af Schools and Committee menbers. Cha�ges in housing patterns, c� .��es in pupil population, willingness to divest the district of facilities, ability tm divest th� district of facilities, possible fiuture program grow th, merits of select program relocatio�, and many, many others make it extraordinarily difficult to i�entify and defend a"foolproof facility plan" for the Roseville Area Schools for the next decade. As such, the Committee and Superintendent s�ttlwd for a plausible and defensible plan with reasonable latitude to acco�mnodate the impact of unforeseen and unplanned intrusions by uncontrollable variables. ASSUt4PTI0NS The Rroperty/Facility Study Committee carried out its work with six assumptions in mind: D72 The school district is and wil l�ontinue to be commi tted to the provision of quality educational programs and services for ear1y childhood, K-12, extended day, adult, recreation� aduit basic, and Senior Citiaen program participants. �rograms will be maintained for regular and special educaCion students; college/university� post-secondary technical, job, military, and family-bound students; fine arts. co-curricular, extracurricular, and club activities will be furnished; prograins for retraining, the disenfranchised, and those who, for some reason or another, previously fail to attain �, diploma will be provi ded; programs wi 11 be offered for an elementary al ternati ve education program, 2 VI—A �._:`..:........;...�: -- ;,�: . � �� VT—A School Board �lembers Page 3 October 21, 1986 . The school district will continue to support a comprehensive program compri sed of both required and electi ve offeri ngs designed to serve the range of student abilities, aspiratio�s, and career goals. . The school di stri ct's ori entation wi 11 be focused - fi nances permi tting - on program and service expansion. . The schooi ��istrict will naximize cost/effective facility usage. That is, excess facilities - as aassible - will be taken out of service, sold, leased, rented, exchanged, or otherwise used to �naximize return to the taxpayer and school district and minimize overhead. . Assu�ning future pupil population growth and the need for expande�f pupil/ �'. program housing, the school district - where possible - will first i nves ti gate the feasi bi 1 i ty of one-time capi tal i nves tment i n the expa nsi on of exi s ti ng, opera ting uni ts ra ther than reopeni ng i d� e school facilities and incurring duplicatory administrative, clerical, mai ntena nce. util i ty, supply, capi tal , and other annual ly recurri ng expenses - all of which impact in a measurable fashion the school district's General Fund and the district's capability for d�liv�ring instructional programs and services to students and pwngram participants. . If it is deter°mined that a one-time capital invest�nent expansion of operating school uni ts is not feasihle to house projected and/or unanticipated future pupil population increases, the schdol district will consider placing back into service idle facilities. In so doing, school district administrators will attempt to achiev� such reopenings in the most cost effective manner - one which �inimizes the impaci on the school district's General Fund budget. FIhlDTNGS AIaD RECOr1MENDATIONS Finding 1: 7he school district's elementary school enrollment lias heen and, '"� - iikely, will continue to increase (or, at the least, maint�in its current entering enrollment at approxirnately 500-53� kindergarten s tudents/year) . Consaquently, the school district will quickly exhaust all available ele�entary school space unl�ss programmatic relocations were undertaken, �exington Elenentary School is placed back in service, L�ke �wasso Ele�nentary School is placed back in service, additio�al classrooms are constructed, or assumptions about usage of existing elassrooms are changed, 3 VI—A 072 � � � School 9oard t•lembers ?age 4 �ctober 21, 1986 VI—A 0 t.� ions: (1) While Lake Owasso Elementary School is currently encumbered with a long-term lease and wouldservicee ittcouldenot belconsideredtasnannoption for it to be returned to , for securing elementary space; (2) While Lexington Elementary School is an aged facility with many programmatic/service shortcomings and would req�ire extensive, costly modification in order for it to be placed back in service� zt could be consi dered as a weak option for securi r�g elementary spa�e; t3) Qn a short-term basis, art instruction cauld be carried out in regular �'. classrooms; �4) On a short-term basis, Extended Day Programs co�ld be carried at a sr�all number of ce ntralized sites; (5) On a short-term basis, Extended Day ?rograms could be carried out in a r�ultitude of rented or non-rented sit�s; {6) On a short-term basis, Extended Day Programs could 5e conducted in rented portable classroom facilities; . (7) As reco�mended by the Elementary School iask Force� an clementary A1 terna ti ve Program coul d be carri ed out at a c�ntral ized si te; (8) The construction of additional elementary classrooms cauld be undertaken; (g) A limited number of si�et�School,co�rse sections c�uld 5e assigned to Rosev�lle Area t4iddle Tt�e Property/Facility Study Committ��e�ndatians�be�pursued�f Schaols reconmend that all of the afore�nentioned rec Finding 2: Based on present and projected enrol1ment data, the school !"�"— di s tr� ct shoul d not experi ence faci 1 i ty stress at ei ther of the 7-g middle school or 10-12 high school level over the next tQn years - except ir� grades 10-12 during the 1987-I3�8 schoo7 year. ppt�io_ns: The impending, r�al space problem at Rosevi1l� Area High School is anticipated failablelto�addgessCthat tempo�ary�problemollawing appear to b� opt�ons av il) Use existing and, �s necessary, temparary space problem. D72 leas�d portable classr000�s to ease the 4 VI-A j � � .� � • VI—A School 3oard �4embers Page 5 OctoUer 21, .1966 (2) During s�iect hours. use available �pace at Roseville Area Pliddle School far th� cnnduct of select courses. (3) Blb�k sch�dule selec� stu�ents. �4) �xamine possibility of s�udent redisiribution by using "early bird" or zero period a nd/or early release. (5� Consider incr�eased use of team-taught large qrou� instruction of select single or multiple section courses. �'inding 3: On bath a short-term and long-term basi�s, the school district has � sufficient faciiities t� hous� �niddle school students and programs '. at Rosevill� Area tqiddle School and, in fact, would �ppear to have excess backup facilities. 4ptions: � (1) Qne og the school district's three ori�ina� �unior high schools could be sold. (2} The re�nainin� two jun�or high schools (middle schaols) could be retained as back-up fa�iiiti�s far unanticipated en�ollment hulq�s� CenLr311y- located prograr�s, leased units, and housing for cooperatively-spons�rQd � programs. Fin� 4: There app�ars to 5e real and potential interest on the ��rt of organizations and agen�ies external to the Rosevil1e Ar�a Sch�ols to cbapera te in facility co�struction, long-ierm leasinge and/or facility/property exchanges. �lptions: (1) The Roseville Area Schaols could w�rk coap�ra tively with Nor�he�st ��letropolitan Interm�diate 5chool D3strict 916 in the cons�Cruction of permanent classroom housing for low ineidenCe special education studenCs and programs. (2) The schoo1 district could follow-up o� consLruction/iease opti�ns which may be of mutuaa benefit to both the Zoseville Area Schaols and the City of aoseville. (3) The school ��strict could fo.low�up on pursuing any interes� the �ity of Li ttle Canada may have i n exchangi ng property fer joi nt faci 1 i ty c�nstruction. (4) Th� school district could continue its aggressive narketing of unused facility space for sh�rt- or long-term lease. �72 S VI-A �.; � _____.__..._. � VI—A School Board Members Page 6 Octoi�er 21 � 1986 � Fin� 5: There is a need to �ddress long-term hausing for an Elementa�y A1 terna tive Educa tion Program� Senior Ci tizen proqrammi ng, Extended Day programming, Adult Literacy programs, Ear1y +Childhood pragrams� and Preschool Developmenta3 Program. Future conside�ration needs to be g�ven to the del ivery of hlgh schooi level programming for disenfranchised students. ' 0 tions: (li Tne Elementary Alternative Education programming - as rPcommended by the r Elemen�ary Task Force - cou1d be located in a c�ntrallzed site. separated from regular eieme�tary school proqramming, �, (2) S single, ce�tra1ized Senior Cixizen prcgram site s�ems warrar�ted. . 3) Reloca�ion n� r�nn-int��rated Northeast Metro�oiitan Int�r�diate School Dis0�lct 916 program in�o alternative facilitieS �vfth greater programminq oppartunity is desired and seems warrantQd� #a1 A single eentralized Early Child�ood Educat�Qn prngram site is destred and se�ms warranted, (5) A singie� cpntrslired Preschool �evelopme�ta�l Pr�ogram site i5 desired and seens warra nted. Fi..!�d,� 6: The i�npact of agi �ng � reductions in bui 3 di ngs �nd grounds sta� f, and �eQuced funding for the school district's Building$ and GroUnds Program has created a si�nifitant ne�d far major short-� and long-term investment in building capital �mDrovements, �pttans; -..__.___.._. il) The schaol dis�ict Couid reduce the number of �xcess b��ldings b�ing main�ained. ��) The school d�stric� could invest significant capital o�t1ay dollars in repa ir arad renova tfon of i ts bui 1 di ngs and graur�ds, �3) The school Cistrict could �r�vest increaseC General �ue��d doliars for maintenance and uplceep of its buildings and grounds. Finding 7: Expressions of ir�t�rest by governmental� educational� and non-profi t, and carnmer�iai firms to lease or se11 selective school � dis ta-i ct faci 1 i ties hav� 5een recei v�d by school dis tri cx arJininistr�;tars. �. 012 � � � t I � � School 8oard Plembers Aag� 7 October 21, 1986 I � � M . . . . D tions: Fallowing a final determination by tfie School Board of the meryts of divesting itself af �xcess facilities, select buildings could be apprais�ed and ad�ertised .for sale. SPE� IFFIC RECO�i�tENDATIONS The following represent specific r�ecommendatfons of the Superintendent af School s a�d Property/Facil i ty Study Commi ttee: ✓(1) Lexington Elementawy School and Fairview Community School Center should Se sold. o7z (2) Yery �ar1y an� additional �le mentar,y school classroom$ should he constructed on to Littie Canada �lern�ntary School, (3) Ool�ar� achieved through Lhe sal� of Lexinqton �1er,r�entary School aad F$ irari �w C6mrtuni ty School C�nt�r shoui d be used to defray the cos t of classroor� c�nstruction at Llttle Canada Elemen�a�ry �chool and �pdat� and r�er�o�rate port�ons of a11 of the schaol distx�ict's remainl�rg fa�i 1 i ties� C4) A praject�d shortage in el�r�entary ciassrogr� sp�ce st�uld be addressed thro�9h new cons iruction ( funde�f Fr�nm bui 1 di nq sales andlor prop�rty exch�nges)� P@)OCB��OR of Ext�nded nay Programs� hor�sinq an e"lpn�ntary A1 te�native PPoqr�an at n�rkview Cammuni ty Schaol Cente�, cand�ucting a limited number of sixth grade c�urse se�tions at R�sevi�le Area :1i�idle School , returni ng a rt � ias sroar�s to regu��r cl�ssroo� u�ag� � or a cambinatian of a11 or most of the aFor�mec��lon��. (5) The s�hoai di�trict shau�a aileviate 1987-I988 space pr°obi�ms at Rasev#lle 9ree Nigh School th�rough tl� r^eloc�ttfon af existing and, as necessary� acquisitian of �ddi tionai portabie class�oom faclli ties CAn a r�er�tal or purchase basis�� nd� as d�err�C aRprpprtat�. initiati�� sc�o@dulir�q and/or progr$m de�ivery modiffcatlons. {6i A s�ngle Senior Citiz�n Rrogram should be retocated to �ark�ie� Community Schoal Center. (7i A single Eariy Childh�od Education Program shauld relocate�i at Parkview Community School Center. (8) A sir�gle Presct�ool O�velapnental Program should De locaC�d at �arkvie�� Cammuni ty School Cent�er�, (9) A district-wids E1Qmentary Alternative Program should 5e housed a� Parkview Community SchQol Center, 7 VI—A VI—A • • •1 � � VI—A School Board �•lembers Page 8 October 21, 1986 (1�) If possible, interested, current distwict lessees should �e relocated to Capi�al View Middle School or, as space is availabl�, Parkview Communi ty School Center, if necessary, school district Extended Day Programs should be h�used in a small number of ce ntral i zed si tes, i n a m�Jl ti p7 ici ty of rertted or r�on-rented si tes, ar in rented portable c�assroo�n facilities. � (11) Non-i r��egra ted Northeas t M�e tr apol i t�n I ntermedi ate 5chool Di s ta�i ci 916 cla�ses schgduled to b� locat�ed at Lexingtan E1err�ntary Schaol during the 1987-1988 school ypar should be relocated to Capital diew itiddle School. (I2) The school district shQuid work closely w�th tlortheast l4etropolitan Inter�nediate 5chool �istrict 916 ta con�truct 1ow inc�dence spe�ial educatian �lassrooms and auxiifary spaces at Roseviilg Area Hi�h School and Rosevilie Area ��iddle �chool which are advanta�e�us to th� school district. NMISD 516, �nd our coll�ctiv� stude�ts and programs.° It is particularly important t4 explore tt�e �anstructfon of coo�rativ�ly owned and/or used m�lii-purpase faci�fties. a vr (i3) "fh� school dis�rict should engag� the Cfty o� Ros�viile and Northeast I•tetropolitan Tntern�e�iate �ch4a1 Oistxict 916 in eoop�rative dixcus$ion/�lanni ng of a r�u1 ti-purpose r�creational � physiC�l • educatian, health, and athletic complex. (14 ) The schoal dis trict sho�19 enga�Q the Ci ty af �Li ttie Canada i:� discussions about the passible exshang� ofi property for constru�xion of a multi-purpos� r�ecreational, c�mmeinity educaCi�n� physicai education facility. �p/D72 � VI-A or GRADE B IRTHS AGE 4 KIND GR 1 GR 2 �R 3 GR R GR 5 GR 6 GR 7 GR 8 GR 9 GR 10 GR 11 �R 12 ..�.�� K • 5 5 - a 9 �- 12 K � 6 1 - 9 10 - 12 ROSEVILLE AREA SCHOOLS . ,;,� . . .. VI�A 82�83 �3-84 �4-85 $5-II6 g5-87 �87-88 88-89 �9p90 90-9� 91-92 -- — .��.. -- 6700 701ti i472 7852 1959 �792 7963 �191 �3242 824� 536 552 510 535 �28 554 556 552 566 56� 433 453 495 492 529 433 413 452 488 50� 459 4�0 3�6 4�13 479 4 pfi 436 411 392 446 I 40i 3�1 �48 42� 397 ; i 474 399 397 448 447 � I 581 456 395 386 d44 j 605 574 4�7 �'94 397 543 6Q4 �89 484 392 695 611 51y 595 S11 69R 694 605 622 609 750 6�4 676 §�0 6JI 803 7�2 670 6d7 597 � , � �. �,.�,..�,.� � 260� zso� ry�� 2682 �so3 I779 163A 1441 1264 1�33 2946 27�6 �568 2454 2348 489 520 53D. 5�5 a34 526 463 519 534 5�4 483 5d4 d7+t S02 514 478 4�5 50.� 476 5� 4S2 4�A 495 51b ��4 403 460 �9T 50� a�6 436 396 451 4�� 0� 44S �4Q 3�8 Q�56 �92 AQA 45� 4S� 407 469 AOZ 41� a71 4i0 41� �23 �4� �22 d75 #]3 59 7 SOa 398 41� 46� 6I6 5A3 49i �92 ��9 IA ! 1� L �'Ylf S� S'Y�d X3 i! �931 2R46 302d 3072 3�9�i 1291 1�95 1�A4 �.352 14b1 2129 19�iA I?92 I7�� i75� 31�7 2963 2984 30�8 324� 32b9 3342 3475 3561 3596 18�3 I789 1663 1473 r3�0 125� 1317 I39,4 1333 �379 2251 2115 1951 1R59 1837' 1726 1490 1�11 i?,R6 135� I ! K- 12 ( 7331 686i 6598 6400 6334 1625�1 614� 61I0 61RA 6375 Future survfival ratios are calccelated using weights nf 1� t, 2y �. Special Education sY,�dents are included. RS/Q25 1Q/9/86 � vz -� _ �: R�'r y � .. - . � p . . _ . . _ � ' . . .. � . � � . . . . . . �'�tN � . ' ' ' � � . . � � ENROLLMEt+�lT �RU.�E�CT��t�i� � � � 1987-8� 4.8� 1,4ga j �2g� 1 J�8-89 520 1,478 i,344 1989-9Q 531 i,50� 1,4�3 3 990-91 535 1,512 i,5i � r 0 1g9i-92 53� 1,552 1,5i� ' The altocatior� t�r aNecial �d/R�I�t�d Se�r�ces couiri ae ree��e�c� 1�� Q� ��, ��,�� located at a separate site. " Classrooms have not be�n atloc�t�d iar mu�ic, �ri ��t �x�enc�e� ��y, c 10/17/86 � � � • � � H t � � LJ � Lease Expiration Oates fairview Comnunity Sch�o1 Center Children's Ho�ne Society Fr�nces Haok Schalarship Fund �lAS�P t�l Licer�sed fami 1y Chi ld Care Assn. National Council on �'ar�ily R�latfans Herr Canr�ecxia� Pro�rams PTA Rams�y Cou�tty Nur-s9ng S�erwites and �nviron�nent�T Nealth �?��s�y C�un�y Libr��r� R��lit�+ Io�stitute Y�uth Serviee 9�rreau 11 VI-A Received from Bob gierscheid 10/21/86 June 30* 1989 Jur�e 30, 1 g$, June 3�� 1989 Jur�� 3O, ) �87 JU�it 30 i 1989 Ju�n� 30 � i 9�� J�fl� 30, 19�I8 June 3Q� 1�8� J�ne 30, �g89 June 30, 19R7 June 30, 1987 VY-A 0 . . . .. >,. ,.:.`_ .. , , . . - � , . ., • ", � • MEMORANDUM T0: P�operty/Facility Analysis Study Cnmmittee FROM: Paut A. Borg A sistant Superintendent, Business Services s SUBJECT: Facility Costs and Outstanding Debt Service DATE: July 21, 1986 Listed below are the actual new building constructioc� costs for each of the named facilities together with the estimated debt outstanding against each of them. Site acquisition costs are not inciuded in the new buiiding costs because they are availabte either at the Court House or through careful perusal9 f�t�he Minut �°O �ties�ur,chased^e by. In either case, there is realty no debt outstandin a inst the ope P in the 1950's. Fac� � F�irview � P�rkview Capit�l View • Lex�ngtan Lake awasso " Admenistration Dat�/Western Land i58.398 Acres) Little Canada (14•52 Acd'es) jme ,�gw_Cost 53,053,920 3,978,�t7 3,167,i20 7�7,�36 832,�92 443,025 's8�,169 35,OQ0 12 � .QS�i�ctsll'14�jgg .�tl 5519�, 34a 1,0�3,9�6 �i95,1Q5 10�,214 75�, 392 _p_ -0- _0- VI-A VI-A o v �� 2 g� ��.y � � 5 � =1 7 wi � � s =) io � � r � - f� � r � 04 � �� s : e = ��, � } �7 � ,s � i9 � 1 M � T�L 27�.1 � •�. �� "� a l�� r. 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W. _ ..� � J - a � � {-'i�; fi�Q a a. n. ` M �� _ w o. �J�� 'I rRaw � � � oaa : �� y. �: � � ��L�. ____ � �,� � � y .t c� � o �` �� t .,1 *. �-�" <'` p4 Q i �� 2 � 3 � 4 0 5 • 6 _ o g a � ._.. � � �� 9`�O,y � � � � � � � 9 �� ____� �,�� c�� ,. K .z..= � �� _-' �' .b� .�.' ...... � •• .; a � I R :, � , ._.::_ ..� OSEY � � �. a :� �� a . 1 L L E _ � � � o : -� - � _ � � _ s- L ESOT �� ~ � t � ` �� R�llSED DATE �� `,� -- -- _ rs,o �� Z.�.�Z � �0 (�(�OC�C7C�G:�O (-�t^� j�a � =� C �2•26•7 .x -----+•—,r—�r�.--•.--..—�r—„—��) '11 _l�� I •i -�l �� .�a-.�,C� �-.._n °� � �� i � �2 � �3 ��l��i��, �� 7 �I �8 .� i9 �ul 2� �� ,i 1i1t Q- T! 6clJ . ��14�.✓ �l�� rr�anroN ci � �{�� % f-t/-Y� 011 _ f �' �a � U � December 2, 1986 T0: Jim Andre FROM: SUBJECT: Howard DaYilgren � PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, NOVEMBER 26, 1986 1. Casey, 48'9--2259 Jim Casey wati in with a preliminar�r plan to divide his property north of Victori.a into three lots. It appears that there could easily be foux. lots, and that the access to the two southerly lots which front on Victoria should actually be from the no�th side (not direc�ly off victoria). This would be �afer and more aesthetically desirable. He do�s not have topography, although the City's topog- rapi�ical mapping services are naw producing maps at the r�t� of on� a we�k Mr. Janisch tells us, and that within possibl�r three weeks the area where Jim's 3and is will have topagraphy. I ea�plained that it is important we have such topograph� so as to be able to properly ?ay out this land which is unique and very desirabl.e. The solution may well involv� private driveways rather than a pub�ic stree� and cul-de-�ac, inasmuch as a cul-de-sac would tend to destroy the land. � The plan now is to wait for th� tapography and thcn carefully lay it out so as to c�et the be�t k�uil.ding sites fox future citizens. 2. Rosewood, 631-3254 P�et�r Hilger fram t3�e Rosewood Corporation was in with a series of mor� detailed, colored drawings illustrat�ng the site plans, floor pl.ans, and elevations of the proposed off�ce deve�.opment consisting of �ive buildiz�gs at the north- west quadxant of Highway 36 ar�d 35wa Th�y propose to build two buildings in Phase 4ne, th� easterly �nost of twa on the w�st�rly part of the sit� (rc�sidential ].ots) consis�ing of approximately 80�000 square feet, four stories high, and the c�nt�r building in the cl.ust�x of three turther �a th� n4rtheast consistinc� of 176,000 square f�et, nine stori.es high. Action required by the City will Ynclude processing of a Plann�d t7nit Development, Special Use Permit for site plan approval, preliminary plat, and varianc� to parking requirements. Four spaces per thousand are proposed due to rec�nt research which points out that in large office s��-uct�res of this typ�, parking needs can be as low as three to three and one-half spac�s per thousand gross. Dave Janisch suggested a petition for a feasibility study for � constru�tion o� the public street as well, so that process can be on-going with the development review process. They are preparing an EAW which we have encouraged them to get to the City as quickly as possibl� so the time clock on that procedure can begin running. �J � � _ � Planning Office Hours November 26, 1986 Page 2 The plan is to file the application so as to be heard at the February meeting of the Planning Commission. That may coin- cide with JLN's proposal on Hamline at the same meeting. These two proposals are related in terms of the feasibility and marketability, whether either or both. The architecture and the concept for the Rosewood development is turning out well, and should make a significant impact for the first stages of construction in the Tax Increment District west of 35W. 3. Kinderberry, 645-0223 Scott Helms, an architect representing the Kinderberry development, was in with Rick Palmateer from Universal Sign Connpany to discuss a variance to the location of a pylon sign to identify the new Kinderberry Hil�. Day Care Center east o� Lexington Avenue, no:��thly of Highway 36, They noted that they have two other locations in the Metropolitan Area--that of Maplewood and Edinaj and in both cases they have a pylon siqn which is two feet square, and about fourteen feet high. I s�ggested that a variai�ce reducing the �etback to the public street in this area would set a precedent for any futu�� signage, and there appears to be no reason for it except that the developers simply didn't think about Yt or make prov�.sions for it. I noted locations or� the site where it could be done conforming to the thirty f�at se�back and suggested that they proceed on that basis. A fift�y square foot �ign is allowed as a maximum in the R-3 District for this ki�d of use. Their proposed sign consists of app�roxi- mately fifty square fee�. 4. Murray, 789-7299 Gladxs Murray is th� widow ot Dr. �Iurray who own�d an animal hospital in Blainc: as of a coupl� years ago. She and her husband ha�� owned land in Ros�ville where Mrs. Murray has rec�n�ly built a new hom�. She was in with her attorney, Roy A. Sjolberg (636-64�0), �xpressing concern about the division of the lot can which this hom�, now n�ar completion, has b�en built. Da�ve Janisch checked the records, and fou�d that� in 1978 the C,ity approved tl�e di�►ision, �.nlcud��.ng a lot fa� the house that has now be�n constructed. We reviewed this �ith Doug Strong and the r�cords clearly show �hat sh� can bring in a dc�d for this property and it can be recorded inasmuch as the Ccauncil approved it at its May 8 meeting a.n 1978. �Happy ending). 5. Rosew4od, 631-3254) Wil].iam Bartolic, r�pr�s�ntinq th� Rosewor�d Corporation, wa5 in to discuss the possible expansion of the Minne�ipolis Busin�ss College use of their offic� building at the northeast corner of B and Herschel Street. That building has about 48,000 square feet, of which the Coll�ge currer�tly rents about 12,OOQ to 15,000. � Planning Office Hours November 26, 1986 Page 3 • His uestion is would it q be possible to sell the building to the college (or rent the building) and have portions of the building converted for dormitory use by college students. I noted that the college is a special use in the B-1 District, and any such proposal would be processed under that provision. However, I suggested that the amenities that would be appropriate for a residence campus are simply not available on this site. There is also a question whether or not there would be adquate parking which would depend largely on the density of the development if portions of the land are used for residence purposes. Mr. Bartolic was going to get additional information from the College regarding the specifics of their proposal in terms of numbers, future growth, present needs, student profile, etc. In g�neral, I suggested that a residence campus at this location appears not to be the best solution inasmuch as there should be additional facilities besides sleeping rooms and classrooms to create a good residence college campus. 6. Johnson, 378-0505 Vince Johnson was in to inquire as to wh�ther or not the development of a new tire recapping facility at 1743 West County Road C might be considered appropriate. This is a � building north of the St. Paul and Suburban Bus Company terminal, and wa� recently proposed as a possible site for Price Savers War�house Retail Store. I suggested that investment of money to establish a tire recapping facility in that location at this time might be untimely inasmuch as we have recently had a proposal to redevelop the land for busi- ness gurposes, which we feel will continue to occur over a period of time in the corridor along County Road C between Snellinc� and 35W. I also noted the City's recent experience with an application for tire recapping, suggesting concerns with respect to the environmental quality in the immediate area due primarily to the necessary air handling equipment. 7. Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell, architect, was in Tim Welsh, attorney for Steve Saunders who proposes to build a new Kentuckgr Fried Chicken shop north of the McDonald's site. Mr. Dunwell presented a revised site plan including the existing development of the McDonald's operation. The plan appear�d quite workable, although Z suggested a slight expansion to th� west to increase the parkinq capacity �rom fif�y-two to approximately �ixty-c�n� �pac:�s. This tended to inc�eas� the length and stack up facility for the � drive-throu�gh lan�s. Mr. Janisch had some questions r�garding utilities, drainage, whether the building would be sprinklered, and the question of sidewalks along Snelling Av�nue. Plannin Offi • g ce Hours November 26, 1986 Page 4 The research on the part of the attorney confirmed that the remainder of the land (the westerly half) owned by Boots Halverson has a"first right of refusal" option on the part of McDonald's parent company. In effect, this renders this property unusable until the expiration of the franchise which is approximately ten years. Thus, it would a provisions for developing that land in the near future tare unrealistic. Mr. Dunwell proposes to file the application with the appropriate documents in time for the January meeting of the Planning Commission. The development proposal will be processed as a Planned Unit Development. 8. Marshall, 633-1542 Yale Marshall, about a year ago, got a for the platting of his single family �cesidentialrlandhatCthe northeast corner of Cleveland and Eldridge. He left a large L-shaped parcel to be divided in the future. 42•76 feet of frontage on Eldridge, but a buildingpareal 100 feet in width to the north. I noted that it is anticipated that this would be divided as a s�parate lot in the future. He notes that he may proceed to do that zt this time. We discussed proc�dures, requirements, and tinin . application may be filed for consideration at t�_e gFebruary meeting of the Planning Commission. 9. Comte, 507-28g-7ggC� Greg Comte is the Vice President of Shopping Centers with Weiss Management Corporatian who continue to manage the Pavilion Place shopping cent�r in Roseville. The add additional signage on the exterior ot the centerr�pnoting th� names of some o� the shops on the int�rior. We r�viewed signage regulations, �xplaining the maximum size of the signs (100 sguare fe�t). I su pare a signage crit�ria specification whichtwouldaspecify�the size, color, material, and lightinq of all the signs on this structure on a p�rmanent basis. This criteria should then be reviewed by the staff, ancl w�.11 be used as a basis for the Building Inspector issuing permits for signs in the future. H� wi11 have this desi,gn crit�r�a be reviewed in the relatively n�arpfut�ur�a� Which will then He notes further that a new rest,aurant has been leased on the site, ot approximately 6,000 scru�r� feet, to be op��c� in about six to eight weeks. It wi�1 be a Chinese Schivan type restaurant. Craig W�ldron informs us that means it wi11 be "hot Chinese" food. � Greg further notes that the sho percent leased when the restauranp1is completedll bHe enotes further that the theater is doing very well, and that the Ecliner Restaurant is doing quite well too. . < • � � � Planning Office Hours November 26, 1986 Page 5 The additional signage is proposed so as to make the public more aware of the existence of additional shops in the center, in addition to those currently identified on the outside which currently includes the Health Club, the Ediner Restaurant, and the movie theaters. : x;. �:f � �. � . � � - 4 � 5 � � 7 =t � � 9 � 10 � � i � ' 12 � ! � f4 � 15 � �6 � i7 � �8 � !9 2t3 '� _ -� . � �+.�.—� L.-�.•d � `� � . 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Nelsan. �89-��57 T�,m Ne�son gram JI.N De�rclopment Compar�� was in with �r:fan Johnsan and �oY� vinn�y t339-2722D, the l�tter of whom arc architec�s w�r}cing �n re�rised dcvelop�ment p,��ns for th�ir �entiativ� proposals for the develo�xner�t of of�ice �tructuros �n th� e�st �ide of Hemline Av�nue, s¢�uth a� Hig�way �►6 twilbert-Char�dlcr v�ult �Gamp�r�y sit�� . w� r�v��ed a�ery pr�iiminary drawing indicatin� r�ducti�on fr�►m one b�ilding tQ �wo builtlins�s with a�wc� l�val r�mp to thc e8�� nc� scaUth of the �truCtur��. I c��cpaces�ed concarn a�ut t�� m�� a� t�e ��u�tu�c (mac3e l�xge� by cQmbin�.nc� ine� one s��ct�rc� i. I na�od th�� eh� �one��n will bc or�Q crf_ �he �c�ie �nd h��ght �f �h� �uf i�i�c�s �� +�iewc�d ��ar� ch� ��sid�n��.a� ��a �c� the ��st � I sugQ��ee�i $�ran�ly th�� ;;�Y � �ne�t �i�t� the n�ic�hb�or�, �ar�i�u�,arly t�� ntic�u�� o �� d��e�apw�c�n� �ropr��l ta �hQ ��t, i��mu�h �s tMosc� pc�op],a ��e �a��rc��si�c� cor�s�der�blc cQnc��n, �rha�� ca�e a� �t t��Q� c�n n�i�ir��m�a��on. t�c�t�d �F��t i h�ve b��n �uc�ge��:,fng� such m��ir�r�s €�r mo�th�, �oi��it��t �ut ti�� a��ue of such �i�iz�r�"g ira�v� ev�� i� ther� ar� no ��e.�ifi� prg�orals +�a b� �e�vi�w�d. 'Th�ir p��ns iradi��tc�ci eh� p��.��x�r�ta��n �f tt�rz sca��Mc�rl�► two �ingla ��nii� hom� 1�� vr �o!t�r�t3al ��p�nsio� �� h� library► sit�. i su�r�c.��d ehs� tP1Q� �o�t t�oc�c��h�r wi�h �hQ lik��ry p�c�plQ ��d re�riew pc��,�ble ,�ntex�� n the� p�� o� the �,ibr�t�r p�c�pl� �n thi� gro�os�l. � no��a�d �h�t 3 h�ve �uc�ge�s��d to 'Tcm Dunw�ll, ��t�o ��11 �pF��ntl�r �c� �he archite�� f�r th� lib�ar�p ex��n�ic�n, �hat ��c��n�ic�n �t th�.s si�� will lii�ely be mo�e app�cc�p�iate �h�n at��ennpt�t��; to movo �o � rrew si�� r��az� Rascsd�l�. c�bvfousiy, an �dr�qu��e �i�e for � new �ae�l�� will l�� clifficul� te� �chi,rsve� �nd lib��ly ver�+ �xpensi�ae. A��er �11 the �ibi�ry has beet� �uccess�ul wh�xe �t i�, �uc�r�esti��t it i� �lx��cly �� good 1�c��i�n. wi�iz re�pec� ta �he site plan, I sugges�ed th�r i� �hc �evel��me�.t i� t� �� ay �i�a��% ��pr�v�:�, tt�� :� i� ��iau3c� �� rec�uced and that the develrapment in the form of twQ st�u�- ��ir�s mi�� be �refcrxed ra��ticr than a single, 1arg�r mmss. i expressed concern �bou� �he "tt�in marke�" for of f icc� �pac�; � and the impact on dti�er office developm�nts on-line and Af considerable impo��ancc ta the Cxt�. I suggest�d that though the concept ot replacing th� v�ault factory with an offic� buildincr ma� be apprs�pxiate, perhaps th� appropriat� timing is "down th� raad." � �� • Planning Oftice Hours Novemb�r 19, 1986 Page 2 Mr. N�:lson indicated that they will schedule a meeting with the neighbors, anci that they will continue with concept revisions based on our conversations. 2. Peck� 681-qA40 Don Peck is looking for a sit� for a building of approximately 2�,000 square feet to hous� a car cZeaning and surfacc protection service, which is similar to the Z-Bart or Armorall process. Apparently thcy per€orm this service at several locations in the M�txopolitan Arca, primarily for new cars a� a ratc af abou�t S35.Q0 each. The prac�ss includes th� spra�i�g of �► �ealant, and is repu�t�d to last ap�roxi- matcly cig�teen months. Hc indicat�s Eift;{ to sev�nty-f��e employ�cs proccssing spprmximately ninety cars �er day. I reviewed possible locatians and ir�appropriatc locations in rh� ��y, I� appears that it may be dif�icult for him ta c�me up with a ncw sitc r�ithin hi� pricc ran�ge. He is going �o lvc�k ar��nd the commvnity and possibly Qther areas as 1ve11, � . S��cic��r-Richardson, 633-2324 Pat Steig�r-Rieharc�son and her hu�a��d �tike live at 2263 i�e].lw�od, �nd are �ancerned about the praposed JLN ri�velc�pmcnt i�n�mcc3ia�ely cantigu�u� �o �.heir w�st ��n�. Th�y � r�e th� �hircl hou�e so�th o� �ti�h��y 3b, e�st��l� of th� t^ill�e�t-�Chanc3ler V��t �ompany. �R�� e�presseel hcr c4ncer� �x�� tta�t of thc ne�ghiaors regarding thc �ro�paUed �'I�N Dc �elc�prner�t . �h� notes �.ha� thc ncigh�ars wo�1�1 1�� to me�� a�� tl�em tca i�� betce� inf�a��ed, I infot��ned hcr t1n��r I t��d j��t �gain sugg��Qd +�o �hc JLt� �e�ple that th�x meet �ith the n�ighbors �o c�et �hc neiQhi��ors anpu�, �h�th�r tt�ey hav� s��ci � ic p1ar�� ot� ns�t , ti1z�. Steic��'-Rieh�,zc�sor� infa�m�d us a� her �.nter�s�s and that o� �D1c neighbors in �urthex ir�c� +thc �linnea�ali� con�ept wh�� nci�ghborY��od m+c��ings �xe a r�quir�d p�eli�minary to �aublic hearit�gs �n �h� develo�amen+� �arQ��s. th�zCi�y�of�Rca�evill�mdic! �uburbs in �hc t��ropoiit�t� � ' but st�:ong�.y r�comme:�c�ed nc�� Le�uire seac� inform�l en��ti�ig�, tt�Gm ir� �ar��ti�ail�r al�. devc��pmcnt situations. $h� w�s �ery cou��ous, s�ee�+s well in�ormed, �nd dedicak�d to making su;a� the�r is�tcr�sts ��e pr�tectcd. I inform�d he� th�t tize st�ffi is �qually cQnccrned. I inFormcci her c�� m� �iews �egarding the ].ibrary expansion� notiizc� that such �xpansior� shou].d go nort2i but not east, inasmuch a� th� latcer would infri.n�� upon �he easter�:y neighborhood. I noted that the repla�ement o��tio� th��'aibraryi��isS probably eas� of Hamlic�e Avcnue l nor in�vit�bl�, but that thi� acti�n and that �f thc �eglacing of th� vaul� factory is a function of tzm�, particularly b��aus� Qf thc �xtremE exp�nse ir� a�complishing the ]�atter. \J Planning Office Hours November 19,1986 • I noted that she or other neighbors and meet with the staff any time, her telephone number to Mr. Nelson ment of an informal meeting with the Page 3 could come to City Hall and that I would pass on to �id in the accomplish- immediate residents. 4. Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell, architect, was in with Tom Welsh, an attorney r�presenting Stevc� Saunders who proposes to build a new Kentucl�y Fried Chi�ken store north of the existing McDonald's site in Ros�ville. Mr. I�unwell presented a preliminary site plan indic�ting the possibility of construction of multi- family housing in the B-1 zoned area westerly of the McDonald's site. This land is owned by "Boots" Halverson, who has an agreement with the NicDonald people that they will have "first rights of refusal" for the purchase of this land in the event he attempts to develop it or sell it. Based on previous conv�rsations with Mr� Halverson, we are aware that this is �he reasan why the land sits idle. The land is divided �nto twa tracts, one of which contains the existing doughnut shop. The p�oposal to build the Kentucky Fried Chicken store, how�ver, i�volves a larger site than the lot occupied by th�e doughnut shop. The hasic problem h�re is one of d�veloping or redeveloping the land in a�nanner �u as to prc�vid� access to the future � d�velopment of the westerly site. I suggested that develop- ing it for multi-f,amily purposes may n�� be appropriate inasmuch a.s the land is zoned B-1 and th�re is a very limited supply of such property in the City. � The developm�nt of a new Kentucky Fried Chicken Restaurant is not in and of itself a problem, but the reiationship �f the land to the cast (�.ncluding �he McDr�nald site) and the r�maininc� land to the west is ai importanee. If. the lanc� is to remain for commerical use, it would appear that th� best method of access would bc w�5terly off Snelling Avenue. I sugg�st�d that a�.U.D. includinq thi� feature might be an appropriat� solution. Mr. Halverson proposes not to s�11 th� land, but to leas� the site to Mr. Saundcrs. They ar� going to prepar� adciitional. plans and ge�t back to thE staff for additiona3. r�view. This site was approved for a P1.anned Un.�t Dev�lo�ment to contain a new structure occupied by Mr. Donut and a Church's Chicken storeo This plan though approved was never �onstructede 5. Margolis, 988-7258 Irv Margolis was in with on� of his d�sign p�ople named Jim Le� to review his proposal �o expand an existing Photomat building on th� west end of the shopping center. This i� an accessory structure, which they propose to expand to be converted to a "lock shop." • � � . Planning Office Hours • November 19, 1986 Page 4 I suggested a standing rib, metal, hip roof on the expanded structure which I suggest will look more attractive than the preliminary design proposed. Mr. Margolis indicated his interest in pursuing that suggestion. 6• Oswald Anderson 774-9765 Rennae Oswald-Anderson is th� �lorth Suburban Senior Outreach Service's Coordinator with "Senior Outreach Services." proposes to establish a day care center for Senior Citizens at 1381 County Road B, which is a single family home contiguous to the corner house at the northeast corner of Albert Street and County Road B. This service, she expiained, is for the care of elderly who may be living at home with relatives, or their maids, but are not in need of care to the extent that they need to be in a nursing home. She notes that Presbyterian Homes operates such a facility in Roseville today. I not�d that a day care center, whether it b� for children or adults, is a special use in a residence district in Roseville, and that a Special Us� Permit wou1.� be required for this location or any other in the C.ity of Roseville. She notes that the home is largc enough to acGommodate ten "clients'" on the first floor according to proposed State regulations. I suggested she me�t with the neighbors in th� area prior to considering a formal application, 7• Patraw, 835-1133 Roger Patraw, a r�altor, was in with Ed Bird, who is Executive vice Presid�nt and G�neral Manag@r of Food 'N Fu�l, Inc. �rho propos�s to build a new conv�nience store and lin� disp�nsing facility at the northeast corn�r of ga01d Highway 8 and County Road C-2. This sit@ was occu�ied by a s�rvice s+�-�<rion which buxned down, and is own�d b� Jim Trapp. This sit� and th� lot to th� north is indicat�d on th� Comprchensiv� Plan as a business site, though only a small portion of th� �xistinc� lot on the c�rn�r is zoned H-2, Thus, to rebuild on thbs sitc there would be a necd to rezone the entir� pr�perty. They presented �a preliminary site plan indicating a ��W structure, cnv�r@d pump islands, with accom an in and driv�s to Old Highway 8 and Count Road C��,Y Ig�uparking som� chang�s which cor�form to the fifty f�oot �etback�Sfor driveways from the corncr, and sug4estions for changing th� location of the structu��, If the� development, th�y wi11 pr� arc y p�°��'�`� With this in preparation for an application�torizoning@and�pa�nSpecial Us� Permit. 8. A�ache Movina. 636-0382 Jim Johnson, President of Apache Movina, was in with Barry Matson, owner of an office warehouse building where Apache currently operates a"storage and moving" s�rvice. � � � � Planning Office Hours November 19, 1986 Page 5 This company owns five trailers, two tractors, and five straight vehicles, occupying a total of 18,000 square feet in two structures in the warehouse area north of County Road �-2, easterly of Cleveland. The housing is a permitted use, althoughbthe ordinancehadoesnet specifically allow "storage and moving" companies. I suggested that the storage of trucks relevant to warehousing should be confined to an area immediately contiguous to the space utilized for warehousing, but that the storage of such vehicles all over the area is not allowed. I noted I will discuss this with the City Attorney any definite decisions regarding the feasibility continued occupancy of the site. They have a within this complex so as to get away from the immediately contiguous to Cleveland Avenue. prior to of their location location Mr. Matson is a new owner, having purchased the buildings rec�ently from the Roberts Company. He notes his intent to paint th� exterior of the buildings and maLntain them well. He, too, is cvncerned about the excessive parking of trucks affecting the other tenants. 9. Gottlieb, 831-2326 Richard Gottlieb proposes to purchase the existing "Dusty's" I�estaurant east of Snelling Av�nue and remodel it to a "erickov�en Be�nerie." He notes that the structur� on the exterior, parking, and access wi11 all remain the same. He propos�s to paint or stain the exterior of the building and remodel the int�rior. I suggested a dark brown stain for the ext�rior inasmuch as that would be more compatible with th� dark earth-tone color ot the bricic of the Comten building next door to the south. I noted that the sign can be chang�d if the square footage remains th� same. If th�r� are no chang�s to the exteriar, parking, or access no action is r�quired by the Planning Com�miss3on and/or Council. 10. Adam, 646-4011 Paul Adam proposes to purchase the land south of his single tamily lot, south of Ryan Street. He was inquiring as to wh�ther he coul�l build a free standing garage on the property anr3 store his clump truck and bobcat. I noted that th� City ordinance allows for the parking of up to a ton and on�-half ton truck on a residential lot, but not a dump truck or bobcat. � Planning Office Hours November 19, 1986 • Page 6 lat the land he is revious proposals to P arage on that • We talked absuggp that building a g Such a looking at, esting term investment. may not be a good long- property be built if the land is added o garage, of course, can only arage is not allowed on a inasmuch as a separate g the principal his lot, lot unless there is a house � about the single family oing to think use) on the lot first. He is e there in view of the fact advisability of building a garag that the truck parking idea is not acceptable. � � called me the other day noting 11. Vince Dolan the appraiser, raise the Vince Dolan, the School Board to aPP Lexington that he has been hired byschool site and the Fairview Junior High about the possible reuse site. He was inquiring important con- Elementary I noted the zoning and a very of the land. to the need to maintain recreational stem was planned cern relating the school SY stem for facilities, inasmuch as ' inally as a part of the ove�a�herpresbyterianSHomes as a or�.g the City. I knew the examp e o case in point. e rezoning of the Fairview St n Avenueesite I suggesced th ossible improbable, and that the reuse of the Lexiand the P not include tY�e razin� of the building ur ose, might the land for �ome residential p p decision reuse of lo��, I noted that any necessarily single family and that speculation lraisal to the Council,� ested that the aPP to rezone is uP risk.y. 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Mid Oaks Lane Mildred Dr. Millwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. Fiinrfsota �v Moundsview Ave Mount Ridge R Nancy Place Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. Owasso Blvd. Oxford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. Pascai St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curv Prior Ave. Prior Circle Ra�►bler Court Rambler Rd.. Raymond Rve ` - Rice St.=� � Ridgewoo� La. Ri dgewoo� Rd. Roma Ave'� � Rose Place Rose Yis`� Ct Rosedale Dr. Roselawn Ave. Rosewood La. Rug�les St. Russeil Ct. A:17,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,B:1,6�I4 A:1 A-6:14 C O,J,L:17 B:1 6:1,7,8,20 6:19 KS 3 � B'-I,L:20 ' F:19 B-D,F,G:19 : N. J:18-20 S. K,L:28-20 B-D,H,K:11 Rd. H:4 Rd. J:3 N-I:8 & Rd. J;8 A,6:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 e. G:18-20 . J:17 d. A-D:5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 S A-C:16-20 W A-6:15-15 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 e D:1Q B-G,I-J:5 A:5 _. . D,18: _ D::10' �- -- -� A=B :4 � = = A�:.2Q.� _ -' � , ;�i � S .:J 8�> n V" � �� =.- � - " ��f S3,F6,19~ - �- `� � E:1,2,7-12,15Y16,18 . . �L:11 �, J:3 . J:2-14,17 N & 5 J:3-4 K:11-13 6:8 Ryan Ave. � � Sandhurst Dr-ive Sandy Hook Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondaie Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren-�t, Shorewood Cv. & La. 5hryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 , S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.Z.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix � St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road- :Surtmer St. �Talisman Curve Tatum St. Termfnai Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virg-inia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. �lillow Circie Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Waodbridge Court i�ioodbridge St. Woodhili Drive Waodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. E�:: � .;9-13,17 12,14,15,17,19 A: F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 b,�,F:10 H:11-i5 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:15 G,H:2 ' H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 iC:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 � G:6 B=K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:3.9 , E:11 _ E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-1g A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K-:18 ;J � • � � November 19, 1986 TO: Jim Andre FROM: SUBJECT: Howard Dahlgren � PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, NOVEMBER 12, 1986 1. Lynch, 546-8410 Brian Lynch is the Franchise Development Manager for "Tires Plus" Auto Service Centers, one of which will be lo�ated at the northeast corner of Hamline and Larpenteur. They built tre building without making provision for storage of old tires, and now propose to build a solid wood fence enclosure on the westerly side of �trie site to include space for their outside dumpster. He presented a plan showing the proposed location, dimensions, and details for the proposed structure. I recommended that the fence be 2 x 6 treated lumber with 6 x 6 posts. The fence will run for twenty�-one feet along the edge of the building, with a pair of gates accessible from the handicapped parking space. This will require a S��cial Use Permit tfor exterior storage) and a variance to fence height (six feet rather than four feet). 2. Grace Church, 633-6479 Dave Sulack is an Adult Minister with Grace Church, which was initially a mission church out of Grace Church of Edina. This church started with fifty members in 1981, having bought the church and site f rom the Emmanuel Gommunity Church. They are growing xapidly, and are acquiring the single family homes in the immediate area, of which they now own all but one. They have a purchase agreement on the last hous@ to the south of the existing house which they are now using for Sunday School purposes. His visit related to the possible use of a 21 x 24 foot exis+cing garage for Sunday School purposes. I revi�wed the building code requirements with Gordy Beseth, the bottom line bei.ng that use of the garage for this purpose would likely not be realistic in terms of the overall investment needed to conform. The church has plans for continued expansion, and is currently handling its growth with multiple services. 3. Long Cadillac, 636-6060 Dick Long was in to review, with the staff, his plans for taking on the new "Sterling" line of luxury sports sedans being manufactured by Austin/Rover Automobile Company out of Cawley, England (near London). Mr. automobile dealership is offered primarily cadillac dealers around the have six cylinder engines (24 valves) of $25,000.00. Long tells us that �his to a select list of country. The cars will and sell in the range � � � L� �� C� Planning Office Hours November 12, 1986 The problem is one of signage. Long Cadillac signs, one of which is 8'8" x 8'8" x 27' high, is 6 x 6 x 21' high. The site allows for two one fronting Highway 36 with 175 square feet, and one fronting on Prior Avenue of 100 square high. Page 2 now has two and the other pylon signs, 30 feet high, feet, 25 feet The building and ;igns were built in 1973. After that, the sign ordinance wa� adjusted to provide for larger signs, and thus the signs that exist on Long Cadillac are �ubstantailly smaller than that allowed. Mr. Long would propose to add a 5 x 8 foot (40 feet) separate sign for the Sterling product, 15 f��t high. Obviously one method of handling this would b� to put the additional 40 square feet on one of the �xisting pylons. Mr. Long notes that it is l�.kely that Cadillac would not allow that method, although that will be explored. Based on the amount of frontag� cov�red by the Long ��dillac develo�ment, it may b� appropriate to simply add the third, smal��r pylon, inasmuch as all �rhr�e af them are �ubs�a�- tially below the maximum sign $r�a aRd h�ight requir�,��nt�. In tk�� ev�nt the latter �n�thod �s propos�d, a processing �f a varianc� would be requir�d. 4. Feickurty 483-2138 GeE2oy Peick�rt was in wi�.h ,7ohn Clifford, to wham h� p�opos�s ta sQll a portion of his lot lacated at thc no�+�h�ast� cornc�r of dictoria Avenue and erenn�er. The lnt h� owns is unsuall.�P large with .82 acre�, and it woulc� app��ar tk�at �pproximat�ly 90 fe�t (in width) of thc �xistinc� lat could b� se� asid� �or a�econd lor. The vi�bili�y of this wil? depend upon th� d�termir�ation oE t�hC exa�ct loca�tion of thc existing hot�s� occupy►ing the original lot. I�uggested, th�r�efore, that t�g. P�ickurt ha�re the lo� sUrveyed alonc� wi�h the locatian of th� house sa as to d�t�rminc the propri��:� of dividit��; th� cxisting parcel into two lois� I nec�ei that althougk� th� r�maind�r �f th� plat is in a fiv� foat setb�ck a�c�a (pl�att�d before 1959), th� prapo�ed lots would r�quire thc +��n fnot side yard setback. 5. Hanson, 338-8056 ,�ohn Hanson's mo�h�r o�ns a lot east of victori�►. �n t�i� far w�st�xly shore o� Lak� Owassa. This 1ot is a me�ts �nd bounds parcel with I17 feet of d�pth, ac�ci a frontage ot slightl� av�r 90 feet, as indicated in � ne�a survey Mr3 Hansan had prepar�ci by G�orgi-Schmidt. I had pr�viou�ly sugg�st�d �o Mr. Hanson that he get th� surv�y, so as to asc�rtain th�e exact dim�nsions of th� lot. I n4t�d that� a 14 foot dedication for victoria will be r�quir��l, thus r�ducing the d�pth further. � i' Planning Office Hours November 12, 1986 � �� Page 3 Development of the lot would likely requir� a variance to the front yard (30 feet�, and for certain a variance to the 75 foot setback requirement under the shoreline zoning ordinance. I suggest�d that processing of such variances can occur upon application based on a specific development plan. Therefore, he should seek a}auyer for the lot, conditioned on City appro�•a1s . Mr, Hanson noted that same potential buyers had previously called City Ha11 r�garding this lo�, and w�re informed that the lot was un�buildabl�. I not�d that this is not the case, a�d I will inform City Ha11 personnel that a potential buyer should submit a�ite pl�n for appro�riate review. The survey also not�s the location of the �xisting house on the prop�rty i�ntmediately con�iguous to the r�orth. I� would app�ar that lining up a ttouse in close a�p�sroximation +�o th� house �o �he no�th w�uld provide a raasonabl� soluti�on �or th� developm�nt of �his Fro�aerty. 6. �tu�nh, 63�-1Z91 Hoa Hu�nh runs s�ietnamese R��tauran� in the r�tail bu,ilding a� the n��thwe�e �o�ner o� �ak�res+t. and Fairvi�w. He is s�c�kinc� � morc p�rm�nent ciisplay of a sign for his res�au- rant. '�h� landlard hacl �r�uic�od for � �e�pyorary sign t�ppro�acl by Go��iy B�se+�h ) out �r� �he py�on on the cornQ� bu� nac� ha� rad�ac�d th�at �ign�ge �o � smaller p�.acard r�imila� �to the o+�her bu�in�sa�es in �I�e bu,i�dir�g, i�9x , Huynh notes th�t th�s has a�ppa��r�t�y reduced his �usin�ss �ubstan�ially, I �x�l��.��d �he Gic�r's �;ic�n re��l�tion� �and �roc�d�r�s. � suc�gos+�ed i�e d�t�rmin� with hi� 1$ndlo�d th+� �i�e of �hQ Qxisein� �y�or� and wo�k �ut some arxang�me�nt wi�e�eby he coulel �get � 1�� cove�age, hopef+�ll� within +th� o�d�.nance, �lpp��ntly, �hcz �rc�b,��m is th�t his �art of the stru�tur� is �et b�ck i,n an "�," sha�pcad iauildin� so it is 1a�s vi�iblc� from �eirv�c�w �lvenu� �ndl �he ��s��rly portion� oi the bu;�lding. �t is � c�se wher� th� r��t�ua�nt is l�ca�ed in a som�:wh�� dis�dvant�g�ous locakior� sa it'� �rontage is not r�adily visiblc�, th�s, th� reiignc� upgrt the pylon �igr��ge �� th� corne�, �opefully t�is ean b� worked ou� by ad�us�m�nt� w,ith �h� 18ncilord w��hiz; the sign ordina�ce r�q�a�rem�nts. 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E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,i:20 [3:1i-14,17-18 A:9-20,13,14,19,20 K:l$ .� � � November 19, 1986 � TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren • �UBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, NOVEMBER 5, 1986 1. Sign Consultants, 788-9145 Ch�ryl O'Donnel, r�presenting Sign Consultants, was in to �eview proposed changes in the signage for "Kline Olds" which will now be known as "Dick Hodges 41ds." They propose to �hange the letter�ng on the Dick Hodg�s' p�rtion only from Microgramma Hold Extended to He�vetica; i.e., from a wide vertical letter to a slanted, more closely spaced l�tter. The "Dick" por�ion of the title will be about hal� siz�. Th� overall sign ar�a will remain approximately the s�m�. I conelud�d thar no Planning Commission or Ca�ncil zeviea� will bc r�quired to af�ectuat� �his chan�c. i. LincoYn Companir-s, 893-900a �andy �i�stro�h �nd Chuck DuFresne, ot Lincoln Compa�ies� wer� in wi�h Ver�e Poffenberger t831-360i) �:�rom Syerl�'s, to reviQw madi�icatio�s of th� sit� �lan £or the shoppinQ centet a�proved west�rly �f Sn��lin�, north of County ��ad C. �h�y prop�s� ��n foot �i�� st$lls in th� ey�rly's �ot with nine foot �t��ls �n th� eastc�ly edge anly �or �mpioyee parking. �h� pl�n naw sho�s three �und��d sev�nty-thre� stalls, which wQul� incre�se to four hundr�d and four if the pmnding are� a� the �outhe�se e�rn�x can be mov�d �ls�wh�re, �nd t�� land acquired from the S�ate by Lincoln Compani�s. tih�ck Du�r�sne w��l �e maeti�g with Mrs. SZaw�k and Mrl/DOT regar�ing this �o�sib�� t�ansfer of ��nd, The City's posi- tion i5 th�t i� the drai�a�e c�� be accaonrnadat�d �isewher�, w� h�a� na p��b1e� �ith it. I initialed tr�� t�o �p�ionsl plans as bei�g aeceptable subject to t��ns�er of ti�l� tQ th� ��nding gr�� on on� plan and �cc�p��nc� �f a vari�nce to the ponding a�ea sctback an th� �thero The f�ri�� l��s� with B�erly's has naC y�t been signed, but Verle i� strongly in favor and wi11 b� recom- mending to Don Byer�y th�t thcy �race�d. �ycrly's are doing approximakcly o�e �xpansion store �very �w� y�$rs. 3. Nu��nt, 379-8507 Le� Nug�nt and Peter Lugar�a have purch�s�d the building an� property at th� south��i��t G�rner of County Road B-2 and Rice Sti�e�. This i� a p,arcel 120 f�et by 120 £eet occupied by �n old house, mare r�c@ntly convert�d to a 3.2 beer hall and restauran�. They p�opose fio tear dG;wn th� s�ructur� and build � new o£fice building in th� vici�ity of 3,000 square fect (two steries) wi�h the required pa�rking. .� � � CJ Plannin Office Hours g November 5, 1986 Page 2 I talked about dedication of land, development requirements, and procedures. I�uggested they hire someone to prepare a site plan for early staff consideration. I am pleased that these owners propose to tear down the old building which would be very difficult to make work well for any good reuse, because its location prevents e�ficient parking area development. 4. Scott, 623-0153 � Mike Sc�tt, attorney, was in with Robert Larson and Chris Galle, develop�rs who are laoking for development possi- bilities in Roseville, particularty for re�ail development. I reviewed the Comprehensive Plan and Tax Increment Plan, suggesting potential sites. Craig Waldron reviewed economic development policy and potent�al. 5. Matthews, 483-3233 Mark Matt�ews was in with Mary Vidas t� discuss landscape plans for the development of t�� parking area on the Group W site. They showed us a rather minimal plan and I sug�ested that, based on our previous conversations, they were going to do the mor� elaborate plan reviewed prior to th� Pla�ning Commis�ion and C��ncil meetings. This was on the supposi- tion tha� the drainag� cauld b� han�led by the construction of a swaTe to the sou�h�ast cor��r of the site, which was approved b� the City. I then r��iewed the m�r� elaboxa�e plan, suggesting that it be implemented by the preparation of a topographical grading plan indicating the lncation, h�igh� af the bexms, a�id the planting. T sugqested the berm be thre� �eet high, and that the num�rous fir trees indicated s�ould be planted at four feet high. I sugg�sted �he flowering cr��s �ould be reduced by appxoximately one-third, inasmuch as it is the coniferous planting which will be the most �ffective for screening purposes. They will re�urn with a revi��d pla� for staff review. 6, Hampton Inns, �71-6395 Jam�s B�rtlett, Dave Phillips, a�d Mike Kline, the latter being architects at 391-3018, were in. They are interested in locating Hamgton Znn's franchises and are reviewing gotential iocations in Roseville. I emphasized the stra�egic advantages of the Ruan s�te, and showed t�em the previously prepared Dillon Inn proposal. I discuss�d other options for location, r�vie�ing the positive and negativ� features. I �ncouraged them to pursue a Rose- ville location, emphasizing the oth�r ancillary qualities of the community. They will cor.tinue to i�vestigate and get back to us in the near futur�. . �J � � • Plannin Office Hours g November 5, 1986 Page 3 7. Erickson, 484-0368 Jerry Erickson lives at 1201 Josephine Road, and proposes to add an addition to tr�e east side of this house which exists on the property. The orginial A-frame home was constructed in 1975, with an addition in 1979. The current proposal appears appropriate, expanding the house to the east but without reducing the setback to the lake side. This is a very small, shallo�� lot and the set- backs on the lake shore are like 16 feet vers�zs the 75 feet normally required. In this case, a side yard variance will be necessary and appropriate, followed by a shoreline ordinance review. We discussed plan requirements and procedures. 8. Brannon, 574-0192 Mr. and Mrs. Brannon were in to review possible locations for a pylon sign for thea.r new car wash and office building north of Larpenteur Avenue, ea�sterly af Hamline. The building is nearing completion and they propose to put a sign off Larpenteur. The ordinance requires a thirty foot setback, and I�uggested the sign could be located in the triangular area ahead of diagnally parked cars on the east side of the site. I suggested that inasmuch as this site was planned from "scratch" (the old building having been torn down), there is no justification for now requesting a sign variance. It appears, from examin�tion of the site glan, the sign needs can be accommodated wzthout a variance. 9. Risch, 636-6400 Ron Risch, attorney, was in to review the City's concerns relating to the Special Use Permit recently denied tc Jim Trapp for the new and used garbage truck agency operation at the Clean-Co site. I reviewed the whole frustrating proc�ss, going back s�me fourteen ye�rs �o the original approvals and the various conditions unrnet relating thereto. I noted the City's need and desire to have proposed by the applicant a�.ist of conditions to be accomplished mitigating previous lack of performance, and a me�khod of financial guarantee for performance. Mr. Risch understood our concerns, and may be back to us with possible solutions. � � 0 6., a,; - 7„ o: 8 g 9�;10 : � � N. � 2 � � 14 15 ' ( 6 " 17 � I 8 � 19 '° 20 � q�j I NI Z NI ��•'- oI �� . �I fl AI NI OI ' pI � AI � I �) AI al • •'�� R . 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Belmont Lane �Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Bur�e Ave. Capitol View Capitol View C�r Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsviorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. •Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 ' K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,1Q,13-15 A:2 A:l F:7,�,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19;2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C, I-� :11 E-H:11 L :19 L :12',13 'Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eidridge Ave. E1mer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairvi�w Ave. �airways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Haml�ne Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephir.� Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �,4,1I,13 ,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J :6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,Io8 G-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 B:11,12 � C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 1;11-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,L:12 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia A.ve. Lydia Court Lydia Gr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Matilda St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S, P�IcCarrons Si. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Hills Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mid Oaks Lane & Rd. Mildred Dr. Millwood Ava. Millwood St. Milton St. Mirir�esota ave. Moundsvie� Ave. Mount Ridge Rd. Nancy Place Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. S Owasso Blvd. W Oxford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. r�ascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N & S Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Roseiawn Ave. Rosewood La. N & S Ruggles St. i.� sell Ct. A:17,18 � A-F:3 �'' J:5 G:13-lo,?R A,6:1,6-24 A:1 A-6:14 C D,J,L:l'7 8:1 B:1,7,E,20 B:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,B:6 B:7-8,10,13-15 B:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 B:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-B:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 B:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-B:�3 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-I2,15,16,18 �:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 B:8 Ry San Dr. Se.x ant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. �.I.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. Si. �rc�x St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Summer St. T,�1 i sman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Wa i ��;:i St. West Perimeter �r. Western Ave. Westwood Circic Wewers Road 4Jheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler Si. Wilder St. William St. Willaw Circle Willow Lane Wooc�bridge Circle Woodbridge Court Woodbridge St. Woodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. J:5-7,9-13;17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 a:�� F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-ZO G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,N:2 H:2 B:7-8 R:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-ZO B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 I�,I:5 I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:ZO L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K:18 � J :,:.y r, ....r .. _. +'h-;� ` �.. � v � � .� /�f.vi.r,r (^ ee"T r�' �, � , �'r'� i"i�. '� J�.�. .. �`, y....�." Nov�mber 19r 1986 .�� r,_..r---�_-------. �` > �a. A- . ,. . � , , - '" � , ,'.�.__ ''- c-- � � �.__ -� .:' .-r_ � • Jim Andre :. �. � 6 ,-f=� ,�a /' FROM. Howard Dahlgren -� `' f�'=� `��y y�+ �r. . r / „� � � � � "f � j ' `-�'I �C:� i"� . SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, OCTO�ER 29, 1986 r ��.�"�. ,,tt�-� Q�jd �r�r�:,r� � 0��':�' ,��.� �— � v,�c"i.�;p'R�'':�....��,� �C'��. l. Byerlv's 831-3601 Verle Poffenberger, represAnting Byerly's, was in to review possible minor plan modifications for their site off Snelling at County Road C(part of Lincoln Praperties Shopping Cen- t�r). Their intent is to get as much parking space available t� the store as possible. Their Bloomington store has 46,800 square feet with three hundred seventy-five parking spaces� The new Roseville store wi11 have 52,000 square feet with three hundred and seven spaces. Their St. Louis Park store has 94,000 square feet with six hundred parking spaces. We discsused modifications such as moving the major entrance road further to the north, and possibly moving the par�7n closer ta the right-of-way ccntainin the g southeast area of the site. The gare ponding area at the Architects Y going to have KF�E prepare �uch modi.fications for further statf review. We ar�ticipate all of these changes will k�e minor, though where infringement occurs on the periphery require- ments, variances will ha�e to be considered. 2. Capp, 835-3577 Marty Capp was in with Joe VanOrnum, both with Capp Indus- ,;-��\ tries, Inc., to discuss pQtential reuse of the Roseville Bowl site (northwest corner of S3�illman and Snelling Avenuei. Marty Capp has owned the building for many years and now pro�oses to remodel it, by his esimate by $300,000 to $400,000, to reuse it as a"Bedroom Furniture" store. He had architect sketches showing renovation of the exterior, but had no site plans showing the handling of parking, cur.b c�.ts, setback, etc. There are about 20,000 sqt.iare feet in the building, which would require one hundred parking spaces. Mr. Capp felt that one hundred spaces could be accommodated in the parking lo�c, which is now continuous asphalt over the entire site west of the structure. Mr. Capp seemed unwilling to consider the parking needs, but I noted that reuse of the entire building would trigger parking improvemEnts, and elmination of the continuous curb cut on Skillman. 3. Nelson, 489-8857 � Tim Nelson, of JLN Development, was in to discuss Lhe use o� the "Glidden" building at the northeast corner of Faizview and County Road C. This building was built in 1979 with 29,412 square feet, and is zoned industrial. , ` � Planning Of�ice Hours � p . October 29, 1986 age � � The� prop�se to rent a portion of the buildin t g o Apache Control Systems, a wholesale distribution operation. We looked into ways additional parking could be added, which they f�el will be needed.. 4. Keenan, 571-5861 Tim Keenan represents A and G Enterprises, Inc., which is owned largely by the Gearman family of White Bear. They own the structure originally built by Vertimag at 2715 Patton Road. They purchased it in January, 1986. Rod Be��nu was the leasing agent and leased about a third of the building to Arrow l�oving and Storage. The land is zoned indus�rial, within which "warehousing" is a permitted us�e. The problem is that the way they operate this moving and storage company, there appears to be a significant number of trucks kept there over night and for longer periods of tin�e in the parking area on the east sid� of the building. They had excerised their option to buy an additi�nal sixty-six foot strip of land to the �ast of th�m with the intent, as I understand it, to park additional trucks on that property. We informed them that this parking of trucks as a principal use is not allowed, unZess a Special Use Permit is issued for a trucking terminal. � We discussed the City's current feasibility study to extend Patton Road further to the north. Mr. Keenan agreed that such a street would benefit their property, and he didn't think they would oppose it. We also discussed wa�s in which a new sewer connection could be made to the Roseville system when Patton Road is extended. He has discussed this with Charlie Honchell. The road extension may make �t easier for him to connect, and therefore he would rather not connect this Fall as was originally proposed and agreed upon with Mr. Honchell. Charlie says the elevation of the sewer will be the criteria. We set a time two .�eeks from now for the staff to go over to the structure to review �he operation of the storage company. Dave Janisch noted that the Public Hearing for the extension of Patton Road is planned for December, 1986. I noted i feel the extenison af this road will be helpful to the orderly de��elopment of the William Brothers Pipeline property to the north, nowthat they have made a decision to sell portions of that land. 5. Nordby, 487-3281 Ken �iordby, architect, was with in John Olson of his office to review pr��liminary plans they prepared for alternate ways in which to expand the Legion Club in Roseville. The Club • now has 6,300 square fe�t of space, and a proposed addition would be approximately 7,300 square feet. They shQwed us two possible alternatives. One is to build on the top of the existing Club, the other is to extend it easterly. Planning Of f i � - October 29, 1986Hours Page 3 � In either c from the existindilotna,� parkinq would be extended easterly We su g !on the north side of the building). ggested that the easterly extension wou1d be more appropriate because it will a�.low for more flexibility in use, On occasion, the�r will want to utilize �.he entire facility for a single function and, in most cases, havin part of this upstairs and part downstairs is less efficient than having it on one floor. additional ideas, meet .further with the Legion tre resender tives, an.d be back later with preliminar p ta- Y plans. 6• Lundauist, 633-7911 Marv Lundquist owns the "Tires Plus" store at the nort corner of Hamline and Larpenteur. A Special Use Permitewas issued for the building of a new buildi.ng on this site in conjunction with "Precision Tun�." informed us he desires to store tires outsideMr� I Linto med him that is not allowed, and that a Sp�cial. Use Permit would have to be reprocessed if h� is to consider any form of outdoor storage. �• I3urqer Kina 933-�� Mike Nordstrom was back, having had his engineers re ar revised site plan as we discussed at his last meetin p e a • plan puts in a long stacking lane for the drive-through window, and refrains trom going around the north szde of the building contiguous to the structure. "Greenhouse" addition increasing the seatingproapacity �f rom �ne hundred to one hundred and thirty-two. The plan includes the changes on the west end of the proper� that Mr. Honchell desires, relating to the access �o the property to the south off County �oad B-2, emphasize the service road access at the frontsofenthet�site (west side of Snelling Avenue). He will be bac� with further design details to be discuss�d with the staff. 8. VFW, 483-5313 Ntarv Rheaume was in to review again the plans for the VFW Club north of the CiviclbCenterpasiten Checking the records, we find that a site plan was approved with a variance from one l�undr�d foot setback requirement to fifty feet. They are still not certain as to the exact l�cation of the structure. gest on the south side (a "GreenhousepAdditionl)1wi11hey sug- become several feet clos�r than the fifty f.eet have �o established. previously Mr. Rheaume did not have the reviewed the Precise floor planso but I parking requirements as they related to the � seven1n� �nd proposed spaces. They currently� have eighty- parking spaces, and it appeared that number may be adequat� to include the proposed acidition. This must be checked further based on more exact plans. ,. , e Planning Office Hours • October 29, 1986 � Page 4 • 9. Learnin Tree 636-4390 Brent Krause, of Construction 70, was in with Randal Pederson to discuss the development of a new Learning Tree facility (day care center) north of County Road B-2, westerly of Rice Street. They presented a plan which indicated the facility would fitpverymnicelyS1on the site. The building will be designed for one hundred and twenty-five children, with twenty-two parking stalls. The twenty-two stalls are substantially mare than the existing Learning Tree facility near Fairview and B. � We r�viewed procedures and requirements for a Special Use Permit which is required for a day care center in the B-2 District. ��. Dorso, 633�2�72 Tony Dorso was in with Cliff Yentes, both of D�rso Traile� Company, ta discuss the disposition of the bumper storage operation th�y are conducting on a piece af land 100 feet by 120 feet at the north edge of their property at the sou�h- east corner of Count;� Road C--2 and Cl�veland. T noted the results of our research done by Craig Waldron itemizinc� the dates of construction, use of the land, and storage of humpers. It is clearly not a"nonconforming use" inasmuch as the building itself was completed and occupied after th� buildi.n�g ordinance was adopted in May of 1959. The bumper storage began about 1974. mr. Dorso was intexested in some arrangem�nt wh�reby he could continue to store the bumpers for a reasonable period of time, inasmuch as he is paid $500.00 a m�nth for tha� service. He notes that the trailer business i,s "lousy," and the additional income allows them to better keep up �� property, etc. I suggested maintaining the bumpers as is without a fence until June of 1987. �Ie was znterested i� screening the area with a fence, and keeping i.t lonc�er. I suggested the spending of additional money would on�y make it more imperative to keep it locked, and tMat a total �encing job would be relatively expensive. Mr. Honchell noted that the City has excess fill resulting trom the excavation of �he ponding area on the other side of the freeway, and tha� perhaps we could build a berm along the north side of the property screening the buffer area, and providing a future buffer to the warehousing north of County Road C-2 in this area. I r�viewed this idea with Mr. Dorso, �nd put him in touch with the contra�tor as a means to get�ing a"free" screen built, although he would likely have to do some finish grading and seed the berm. � Mr. Honchell's consultation with the manager suggests that a one year extension would be appropriate under these condi- tions. Mr. Dorso will be getting in touch with the Engineering Department, pending his call to the contractar, to submit a plan f or permit purposes. � ' NI � � � � � � #� 6 a� " AI � � � f� 'O "t �� •i� � { � I'T � �S � �� p �R Y T -i � � � � I v � � � �� O f/ , /'� e • � 3120 )ITNK �. rn. �o. 'o' __�V _/ �_a - �. 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V:� � "�" ^_. �'a z I IA00 �cha � IE r�� 5 ' ' ' "_ aa � � - � ! �� 2�J � e � Q ° ROSEYILLE � �- �� ,-4r � _ � _ MINNESO �� " ; _ � ' �� '_ �� L (� is�o �� 2 7 REYISED DATE 1.�! — — — — � 0� �[��`-�I " � � ' 1 �� C /2-264 X .--. .�,�.�,� � �i� I�i�l� �i��l�f ��— �� j�� -H-� a � 10 � i I y� 12 �! 3:� 14 »� I 5 g� � 6 � I7 s� !$ �( 9 «I 20 g� � ` 2- � ��w - _� a-�s-rs n�t `�` Acorn R� H:4 Draper Ave. 4,11,13 L3ttlg Ba Rd. �:17i1� � Aglen A C-D:13 Draper Driv� � Lflng la�e Rai. �-F•3 � Sandhurst Drive � �0712 24�15 17 19 , Aglen St. F,K:13 • , , , , Dunlap St. ,.1:12 Los�e� Rd. J:5 Sandy Nook Dr. :17 V- Aladdin St. E:16 Eldridge Ave. I;5,7,8,1fl-12,15�18 lo�rell i1ve. G:b3-t6,18 Sextant Ave. F:9,1U,12,15,16,1$ Alameda St. I,K:16 Elmer 5i. J:19,20 tydia Ave. 14,6:1,6-14 Shad Albemarle St. I:20 Eustis St. E,H•1 lydi� Covrt q•1 y Beach K:20 Albert St. A,B,F,H:10 ' • Sha rond�le Ave. I:5 Eveiyn St. A:5 lydia Qr. A�B:1� Sheldan St. B,D,F:1Q Aldine St. B,E,�:7 Evergreen Ct. J:S Mackubin 5t. C O,J,L:17 Sherren St. H:11-15 Alta Vista Dr. K-L:16 Fairview At+e. A-J:6 ' ltansan Si. 6:�`=,�� Shareo+ood Cv. b La. A•7 Arona St. A-C,F,J:9 Fairways Lane I:2 li�iple La�e 6: � �� Shryer Ave. J:5-7,i0-14,16,17 Arthur P1. B:6 Farrington Ave. I:I9 l�aRle tan� Ct. 6�39 `"� Arthur St. A:6 Simpsons St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 Farr�ngton CT. q:Zg diarion Rd. H:� Skillaran Ave. J:5,6,I0-12,16,20;I:7 Asbury St. A,B,J:9 Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 it3rion SC.�.. 6-I,L:2Q �17ina q�e. A- Auerbach Ave. G:19 Farrington Circle F:19 a� s 1� Circ F:�9 nellin -�� F:9 Autumn St. K:12 Fernwood Ave. I-L:ll �'+ �� j l, St�., 8-O,F,G:19 Snelli 9 D:�'�► Avon St. A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. -E,H:�1 P1� e�an,�i,� fa. J:1&20 • Bayview Dr. J:18 . Snellin Serv.Dr. E :9 Fisk St�� 5 �1r. r . 5. K,l:�B-20 Southhill Dr. G•1 Beacon St. E,F,J:7 Fry St. � 1, � l4cCarrons t. N K:11 ' Belair Cir. B:11 `��+► �+ S.T,N. 356d A-8:4; G-H:1� Fulha+n St. -+ �:2 Plid3and Grnve Rd. Ft. � S.T.H. 36 G-H:l-ZO �Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle F:20 Midlanc9 Hills Rcf. S.T.Fi. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 Sismarck Ave. ;` G:19 � � "� Galtier St. B-�,F.L:19 M9idlothian Rd. -:8 �,s S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 Bossard Dr. � �arden Ave. K.11,12 h9id O,aks l.ane !4 Rd.�• S.T.H 280 H-J• 1 Brenner Ave. .,6,9;� 5� sman St. I-J:19 titdred Dr. ' Brenner Court '�A:2 �`` St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 nhill Road A:10 i +� �-8 10,13-15 St. Croix G,H:2 Brenner St. A:1 nwood Ave. K:17*18 �"''� �'`i�', St. Stephens St. H:2 Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Gluek Lane H•6 Rilton St. `'�' ,:14 S�anbridge Ave. 6:7-8 Brooks Circle F:19 Gluek Lane N 8 S H:6 Hinr�soCa Ave, G:18-20 Stanbridge St. A•1 Bruce St. F:7,8 Grandview Ave. G:13-16,18-20 lioundsviea Ave. J;17 S�ate Farrn Road H•9 Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Griggs St. C,D:I2 F'laun[ Ridge Rd. A-0:5 Stuber Road K:16 Capitc- Vi�r H:19,20 Grotto St. E-H:15 t�ancy Place G,H:14 .SuRrner St. K•12 Capitoi V' C�tr� H:19 Haddington Road H:8 ?4orthview St. 6:20 TaZisr.�n Curve D:10 Carlisle v � ��._ � Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Oakcrest Ade. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Tatum St. J:6 � Centenni 1� `��14��,�,�� Hand Ave. G,Y:T9 Oakct-eat lane E:19 Center S : �.,, Ter�inal Road F:1-3 - � --- -�-+ Heinel Dr. A-O- 5-17 Old 8 A-B:1-Z Terrace Dr. C_7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Chandler . K:17 Heinel Circle C-1 � arti Lars C:14 Tophill Circle G:18 Chatsriorth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. E, . so� d 5 A-C:16-20 Transit Ave. F:9-14,1�-20 Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. J:! -- --�- �� --� o�1v {1 A-�:25-16 Troseth Rd. B:1-2 �ivic Center Dr. D:12 Highcrest Road A,B,G,H:1 Oxfo . � A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Yicroria St. A-L•14 Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. K-17 Parker A�+e. 1:13-1� ' Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 � Yirgini� Ave. C-D:19 Holton St. F:10 +r"h"i+�e Rd. 8:3-4 Virginia Circle F•19 �Cohansey Blvd. H-�:18 Nuron Ave. K:11 as 1 S. A�F,N-J:10 Wagener Place k;20 Cohansey St. E-G:18 Huron St. C-0:11 ��y �� pat � A-B:2 _ Colonial Dr. G:10 $�� Wagner St. K:17-19 Hythe St. J;4 in� ex t. K:16 Commerce St. H:9,10 * --+ Malnut St. E-H:1 Iona Circle C:18 Curve D:10 Hes� Perimeter Dr. G-6 Cope Ave. G:15,16 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-20 Pr�ar Ave. �-G,I-J:S Kestern Ave. B-K:18 County Road B H:1-ZO Ione St. L:1T Prio� Circle A:5 itestwood Circle J•4 County Road 62 F:5-20 Irene Circle C:18 Ra�bler Wurt 0:18 klewers Road E-20 County Road C D:1-2U Irene Court �:18 Rambler Rd. D:10 liheaton Ave. D-15-16 County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. E,F,H,I•1$ R+�ym�nd A�e. �-6-Q� idheeier kve. E,F•/ County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. B:11,12� Rice St. A-1:20 tiiheeler St. A,B,I,J:? Crescent Lane I:18 Judith Ave. C:10-I3,18 R�dger+ood L�. H E S ,�:$ Wilder St. A,I:S Christy Circle E:11 Karyl Place I:12 Ridge�oe►d Rd. A:9 Wii�iam Sfi. I,J:19 Dale Court K:16 Kent St. ,1 7 IZoa�a Ave. L:11-13,16,19 i1ilr�w Ci�cl� E-ll � Dale St. C-L:16 Lake St. ` Rose Plate E:1,2s7-12,15,15,18 itill�osr lane E-il Dellwood Ave. C,I-� :11 Lakevie�v Ave�- C D:�i Ros� 4tista Ct. L:11 y��rl� �- Dellwood St. E-H:11 Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 �~b �� -, �.� g� •-=�"cle G:20 Dionne Ave. L:19 Laurie Road N:3,�.12 4�oaclbridge ourt L:2Q R�seiaar9 Ave. J:2-3R,17 -20 Dionne St. L:12,13 Lexington Ave. A-L:22 t�e�aaod La. �4 � S J:3-4 �'-'� q��: Lir�dy Ave. I,L:12 Ru991e3 St. K:11�23 --�--�- Russell Lt. B:8 �odTyrie"I�"'iv� � '�';'�}"I'd';�y'�,��—�'; Mooclruff Q�' +��'; �:18 �/��0�� - INNCJ��TIVE . �. . �Q� r MI C� Q G�A►PHIC� ' �� . . . _ � � � T+� _: �� +� - - � . :� �� . . .�, � . • � � � �: � �'I I �� '� i..�i�i I �i�� .- � �� October 30, 1986 TO: FROM; • Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HQURS, OCTOBER 22, 1986 1. Finc�erholz, 648-6953 John Fing�rhol2 proposes tQ buy a lot a� 214 This lot fronts on Wewers Street. This is a � public right�of-way dedicated to th� east. Ros�ville e�wns �h� �rop�rty to the east and lot, having been purchas�d for park purposes Wewers Street. corner lot wit� T�e City o� �outh of this manx yeazs ago. Mr. Fingerhalz has a hous� plan which is thre� feet too long for th� s'�t�, and he is consicierinc� requesting tl�e City ta vacate th� sts�et so as to �llaw thi� plan to b� btailt. Exam�ninc� his p].an�, I show�d C�r. Fingerholz how the plan could be adapt�d to fit the lot (with �a thr�� car garaq@� withaut v�catinc� th� ��ree� or reques�tir�q th� varianc�p D�ve .7�nisch not�d that substanti�� portions of th� lot a�� "b�low grad�"', and thi� is likely ttt� r�ason why th� lot has �eve� bc�n d�v��oped. Th��, furthe� rev��w w�th the �ir�ctor c�f Publi� t�orks x�lev�n� �o drainage, utilit�.es, an�l s�rv�.c� was rc�camm�nd�d. I know th�t o��r an �x��nc�ed pQriod o£ �ime, the City may �+3.sh tca �urcha�e this lot �►nd th� contl- c��uous hom+� site �o �hc ��rest. In �ny case, r�que�� for �aca- tion of s�reet or v��iance w�as discoa�rag�d. 2. H�awkins+ 545-QQQS Greg HSwkinS, wf ti� S�uCe ��►. Sehmidt, wa� in t�a r�Vit3w e revised plan �or the �xp�n�i�n anc] r�cle+��lopment af �h� °'Ga�d �ym" 2�uilding north af County Raad B, cast�rl� Qf �'air�iEw. Ba�ed on r�� survc� dimensiorr�, �h� �i�e plan propo��d �n �xpan�ion of th� b►ailciing as p�a�io�usly rQvi�:�►@d, and accom- moda�ion caf th� appro�ria�e pa�kinc� r�quir�mentis. The pl�ns incl�cle a s�uk��tantial r€m�d�ling of the building so �s to mak� it a far mor� attracti�re office building, �'h� add3.tion ancl modifica�ion of ti�e building, including �xt�n� sians o� a��r�p�t wall �r�d �oof syst�m, will. r�s�alt in a "col.on�.al motif�' architecturc with n�w bay window�, n�w sielinq, �nd treatment af the f�n�s�ration. This structu�e will �ecom� th� local h�adqu�rters for M�rri�1 I,�r�ch R�a�l Est$t�. The remodeling adds 1,'�00 square f��t to th� existing 10r000 square foot building, r�quiring fifty-!�ine parking spa�es accommodate�d on th� site, � �s � Page 2 Planning Office Hour October 22, 1986 3. Rosepointe, 340-6501_ Rosepointe Senior Citizen's housing project site plan was reviewed w�th the staff. The Engineering staff noted that drainage will proceed up the westerly side, then north- easterly to Hamline. The alignment of this storm sewer passes und�r the proposed entrance sign. The storm sewer should be rerouted around the sign, or the sign location changed. The sign is also ten feet closer than required to the new property line, resulting from the ten foot dedication on the west sid� oF Hamline Avenue. It was agreed adjustments can be made to the site plan to accommodate these concerns within the Planned Unit Development approval. 4. L�a�y, �49-8�07 Jim Leary, from Coldr�ell Banker, was in with Charles Wensch a�nd Tom S�affer, also from Coldwell Banker, ta review with the staff po�sibilities for the redevelopment of the Standard Oii site westerly of the Timpte site, sauth of County Road C, w��terly o� Long Lake Road. This is a ten acre site which Amoco n a price that cQuld range from �2.50 t Porkions of this land ax� zoned B-4, � zoned industria�l., They are aware str�et, purchased by JL1V Company, �wat�n Trust, went fAr $3.50 per Hank�r's questian .is what is th� most ianc� . � ow proposes to sell for o $5.00 p�r square foot. and portions of it are that land across the (,�eff �Ieilsen) from the square foot. Coldwell appropriate use for the I sugg��t�d that it �rould be in their client's b�st interest to not ma�ket th� land naw �t �2.5a a square foot, but to wait i�ntil th� completion and oc�upancy of the property across th� s�r�et tRos�ville Corparat� C�nter), at which time �h� mark��t wo�1d suggest a pric� closes �.o $5.00 rather than th� $2.50 :igure. The probl.em here is that if everyone wants te� ma;rket th� land at onc�! the market is saft enough such that thc 'Ehighest anc� best us�" will not be obtained for all th� praperties at one�. Thus, it appears to me, in the int��st of the City and that of the landowner, to time the sal� o�: th� lar►d to coincid� with an increase in the market d�mand;. Th� alternative is to s�ll thc land ch�ap, which warks against the City's interes� �o obtain maximum, reason- abl� �.�ntensification �f th� land use. M�� L�ary no��d t'�at he would pass tihis suggestion on to the landowners. Th� p�obl�m with this, howev�r, is that an immeeiiate �ale (though at a low�r price) is frequently in the best interest o� th� realtor Ya�her than advising the client to ho].d the l�nd for any extended period of time (resulting in no in�n�diatc� commission) . � Planning Office Houis October 22, 1986 CJ • � •� Page 3 5, Vanasse 631-1711 Rrchitect, to Leonard Vanasse was intoibuild aNPricegSavers WholesalVanas�e review their proposal Westerly of 35W. Mr. on the TCF Company property, er midwest i ht to many upper midwest smallbr Freightlines is an up noted that the Twin Clfre g hit y trucking firm, handling uni�ies, and that these routesElfholbetam lYvloWns the comm He noted that the deregulation. desirous of selling out at this time. site, and is keenly e noted that the land sale withillrbecovers$6Smi13 Mr. Vanass er square million, and that the total lroximately $25.00 p lion with the structurWill bepapproximately 107,000 square foot. The building car parking lot could support a feet. A seven hundred fifty at an approximate cost 150,000 square foot office buThdsngives us some indication of of $75.00 per square foot. Wholesale store versus the difference n�n valuation of a of f ice developme se noted that the family would like to go to court Mr. Vanas I noted that the City is exploring if the sale is thwarted. eCtive of more intensive ways in which the Council's obj and that evelopment in the "targeted area" can be achieved, to the d of final decisions relating this may result in anderegulations governing the land use. development policy 6, Yentes 633-2872 s Transportation Com- Cliff Yentes, f ormer President of Brlgoncerns and possible pany, was in to review the City' action reg arding the use of the Dorso Terslon theirasite property for the stoe�gof°County RoadeC-2mand Cleveland. at the southeast corn Waldron's analysis We reviewed with him the results of Craig and the f the history of the development of the Dors�heireCord, that ° uestion. It is clear, bY bumper storage in q and the ers were not stored on the site until about 197 , these bump of 1959, and that the land was rezoned in May e is not a building Wa S completed and occupied in abstor g°Vember of 1959. Thus, it is clear that the �Pe legal, nonconforming use. ro riate for the Dorso people to I suggested that it is inapp p trying to screen the invest any substantial amount of money the time thereby necessitating a continuation of ested that bumpers, I sugg span in which to amortize the investment. ortant than the reuse of the land and its storagesoperati np the continuation of the bumper d be interested in some He noted that the Dorso people woul oing allowing them to keep the storage g form of compromise, I Suggested that without for a reasonablattemptttofscreen the bumpers, an extension any addition ro riate. until June 1 may be app P • C� • • Planning Office Hours October 22, 1986 He indicated he would review haps get back to us next response to such a solution. �- Page 4 this with his people, and per- week regarding the Dorso family 7. VFW, 633-6202 Mory Rheaume, representing the Vetrans of Foreign Wars Club in Roseville, was in to review their proposal to extend a 10' x 30' "Greenhouse" expansion on their dining room toward the south of their existing structure. He did not have exact seating capacity figures or car parking capacity numbers. His drawings also were not indicative of the exact setback of the existing structure. The land is zoned SC, Shopping Center, requiring a one hundred foot setback, and our records indicate that a variance to a fifty foot setback was issued at the time of construction. Mr. Rheaume is going to recheck plans of the structure, and will regarding their expansion proposal. his dimensions and floor be back with us next week 8. Dreesen, 636-6906 Jim Dreesen, representing Ryder Truck Rental, was in to discuss their sign proposal on the easterly side of their property, closest to the 35W freeway. They want to construct a sign 45 feet in height, with a sign area of 35' x 6' 4-1/2" deep, and approximately a 220 square foot signage area. I noted that the freeway sign regulations allow a 225 square foot sign, 45 feet high, and that an expressway sign is allowed at 175 square feet by 30 feet high. A local thorough- fare frontage sign (such as Long Lake Road) is allowed at 100 square feet by 25 feet high. These sign areas are based on traffic speeds from a study done about a dozen years ago, at the time the sign ordinance was revised for the City of Roseville. The problem is that the westerly portion of what appears to b� their property is actually owned by Johnson Brothers, and thus the Ryder Truck Company property is not contiguous to the freeway service road. This strip of land is approximately one hundred feet wide, and thus is relatively unusable, but the Johnson Brothers refuse to sell it at this time (so Mr. Dreesen informs us). We suggested that they consider a sign smaller than that proposed and, that under the circumstances, they may request a variance though there is no obvious hardship present. I noted that many properties not contiguous to the freeway would be desirous of a larger sign so as to be readable from the freeway. In their case, however, in view of the slim sliver of land separating them from the freeway, some appropriate accommodation may be considered. • n LJ Planning Office • October 22, 1986Hours •' Page 5 9. West, 338-0012 Pete West is from the Maxfield Research Group, and was in to review recent development trends in the City of Roseville relevant to market analysis being conducted by their company in the City of Roseville. These studies relate to the use of land at the southeast corner of Highway 36 and Hamline Avenue, now occupied by the Wilbert-Chandler Vault Company (2.45 acres), and the homes to the south (counting a total of 7 . 8 acres ) . I expressed our concern regarding the marketability of office development proposed and committed within the community as relates to the theoretical market discussed in recent studies done for the City, The staff reviewed with Mr. West, develapments planned, approved, or under consideration in thepCityseof Roseville. 10. Bressler 531-751-3478 John Bressler represents a cellular telephone system known as �1ew Vecture, a subsidiary of U.S. West. They are looking for a site for a two hundred foot high transmission tower in the vicinity of Shoreview and/or Roseville. I noted our regulations regarding "antenna" height, wherein Council approval is required in cases where the Building Inspector considers the impact may be deleterious. I reviewed recent history of antenna height, and suggested that a more appropriate site may be found in a contiguous community. 11. Franke, 636-6400 Bi11 Franke and Tim Nelson of JLN Development were in with Bob Vaney and Dick Heise, newl a their development proposal at the southeast cornereofsHifhr way 36 and Hamline. g I reviewed my concerns regarding this the conversion of the land from an industriallusenoting that Chandler Concrete Vault Manufacturing Company) to anWloffice use is an appropriate conversion in the that the height and intensity of the landlusenwillStbebua significant problem to the contiguous single family area. In this case, it was noted that a substantial tax increment subsidy is proposed on their part and, that without that support the project is economically unsound. I suggested they seek a different site in the City, in that the proposal will be competing with a limited market poten- • tial for high quality office structures which are for and approved in other parts of the Cit planned their extreme interest in this site, and theirTdesire�tto proceed with the normal Planning Commission and Council review. � • • • �. 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Carlisle Ave. .Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsv�orth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. �Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Daie St. Dellwood Ave. _Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 � :�$'`�- I:1Q, 16 G:1� H� Draper Ave. ,4,11,13 Little Bay Rd. A:1i,18 Kyan �v�.` J:5-7,9-13,17 Draper Drive Long Lake Rd. R-F:� � Sandhurst Dri� H:IO-12,14,15,17,19 Dunlap St. ,F,L:I2 Loren Rd. J:5 Sandy lNook Dr. A:17 Eldridge Ave. I:5,7,8,10-12,16,I� �ovell Ave. G�13-16,I8 Sextan� Ave. F:9,10,12,15,16,18 Elmer St. J:19,20 Lydia Av�. A,8:1,5-14 Shady Beach K:20 Eustis St. E,N:2 Lydia Cour-t A:1 Sharondale Ave. I:5 Evelyn St. A:5 Lydia Dr. A-B:14 Sh�ldon St. B,D,F•10 ,Evergreen Ct. J:5 Mackubin St. C O,J,L:l? Fairview Ave. A-J:6 Manson �t. g;l Sherren St� H:11-15 Fairwa s Lane I:2 iKa ie Lane 6:1,7,8,20 Shorewood Cv. & La. A:7 y ¢ Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 Farrington Ave. I:19 Mlaple Lane Ct. 6:19 SirnPsons St. A,B-9-10;F,J:9 Farrington CT. A:19 hlarion Rd. H:3 Skillman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Farrington St. S-D,H,L:19 ii�laarion St. B-I, •20 Farrin ton Circle F:19 P�atilda �ir ..� elling Ave. A-J:9 g � elling Curve E-F:9 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 Mtatilda St. Fern� �� C-E,H:11 td�Carron B1 ._N. ._ a:ig— Sn�l7ing Serv "r. -D: ,.,j Fiski�� "'� :15 E�cCarron Blvd. S. K,L:1$-20 Snelling Ser .Dr ��, Fry St. -F I: f�Carrons St. B-D H,K:11 Sou�hh�ll Dr � +�� • S.i.H. 35W � A�B:4; G=H:I='�`o Fu�fham St.~ G-J:2 Widland Grove Rd. N:4 S.T.H. 36 G-N•1-20 Galtier Circle F:20 Midland Nills Rd. J:3 -�"'-�� .T.H_ 36 Se v. N G-2-4 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Midlothia� Rd. H- • � .� T.H. 36 S rv. S H-3-4,7,8,17 Garden Ave. K:li 12 Mid Oaks Lane b Rd. J• �j 7.H 280 j`-�''t� H-J- 1 �,10,13-15 6iesman St. I-J:19 M� dred Or. A,��B�� 'tJ� �� . A1 �-L3 y ...� ba St. C,F,G,L:16 A:2 Glenhill Road A:10 i lwood Ave. 6:7-8,10,13-15 � St. C"�,� ; G,H:Z A:1 Glenwood Ave. K:17,18 .- ' lr,dod �t. B:1,19 St. � phe ' N:2 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Glu�k 1•3 ��i ! 'tf � � Milton St. A N•14 F:19 "�� , � ,. Sta e. B:7-8 Gluek L�a��iS�� : -H�6. ,. '; Mir�resota A•re. G:1�--20 ��`� F��$ Grand�ll�w Ave. G:I3-16,I 20 t�oundsvies� /�ve. J:17 � 9 Soad"�'� H-9 I:10-14,19,2Q Gri s St. C D:12 ''^� Fbunt Rid e Rd. A-D:5 � H:19,20 99 T � S t u b er R o a� K: 1 6 Grotto St. E-H:15 Ptancy Place G,N:14 .Sumner St. K•12 H:19 Haddington Road H:8 i�orthview St. B:20 Talisrnan Curve D:10 J:17 Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Tatum St. J:b C:7,9,10,18 Nand Ave. G,I:19 ,.- , Q�kcrest Lane E:19 K:20 17 O�d Hi hrra 8 A-B:1-2 7erminal Rc►ad F:1-s K:17 Heinel �Circle '�t� ��# i• • 9 y Terrace Dr. C:7,l0,1I,18;C-D:15-16 H,B,F,G,J-!:?3 ....�.j �_ Orchard Lane C_14 Tophill Circle G:18 A C,D F:13 Herschel Ave.� �,:7;� •ti.,. j � Owasso Blvd. � A-C:�.6-20 Transi� Ave. F:9-14,1b-20 Nerschel St. J:7 '�..v..-•�' �y �,+asso Blvd. k A-B:15-16 Troseth R�. 8:1-2 D�12 � Highcrest Road A,B,G,H:1 Qxford St. A,C-F,N, .13 yictoria St. A-L:14 A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. K-17 Parker Ave. I:13- A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton St. F:10 P�rtrid e d 3 Virginia Ave. C-D:19 Virginia Circle F:19 H-J:18 Huron Ave. K:11 Pascal t N-J� Nagen�r Place k;20 E-G:18 Huron St. C-0:11 Patton . 1'°i Wagner St. K•17-19 G:10 Hythe St. J:4 Pinevi�r�r Ct. �• ii�+! 4ialnut St. E-H:1 H:9,10 Iona Circle C:18 Primrose Curve D:10 41est �erimQter Dr. 6-6 G:15,16 Iona Lane C:S,C.D:16-20 Prior Ave. B-G,I-J:5 uestern Ave. 6-K:18 H:1-20 �Ione St. L:11 Prior Circle A:5 West�rood Circle J-4 F:5-20 Irene Circle C:18 � Rambl�r Court 0:18 bdewers Road E:20 D:1-20 -Trene Court F:18 Rambler Rd. D:10 Nheaton Ave. D:15-16 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. E,F,H,I:18 Raymond Ave. A-6:4 klheeler Ave. E,F•7 A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. 6:11,12 (tite St. A-L:2d WheQler St. A,B,I,J:7 1�18 Judith Ave. C:10-13,18 Ridgewood La. N 3 5 J:8 Wilder St. A,I•5 E:11 Karyl Place I:12 Ridgewood Rd. /t:9 William St. I,J•19 K:16 Kent St. B,D,J,L.:17 Rama AvE. L:lI-13,�5,?� Ylillow Circle E•11 C-L:16 Lake St. J:2 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,15,I6,18 Nillow Lane E•11 C,I-L:11 Lakeview Ave. C,O:i3 Rose Yista Ct. L:11 itoodbridge Cir�le G•20 E-H:11 Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 Rosedale Dr. J:3 �oodbridge Court L:20 .,� L:19 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Ros�larm i�ve. J:2-14,17 � � p_<��i��'Iji_ �� L:12,13 Lexington Ave. A-L:12 ,--;;�pse�ood La N b S J•3-4 1" �1 /�!^S Lindy Ave. �' I,L:12 u les St. � K:lI-13 D. @i}.3.;i�,� ��7"�� 4 �; 't'�� (�� us eil Ct. B:8 Woodruffi� � 1� K-18 . .. , ,_.. �_.. ..�..�.�.r • i � �j'•�} ��"'�„�' ;�� : !��i�� - INN�VATIV� . p� = � Q � MICRUGRAP'HI�CS s �D■ � ■ c�u � -�� THE �C�� C��l��T��►�! C��' TN� P'RE��Ef��J� D�}+�U��J�" W� ��N��T 4:� �� ll� ■ t • � � � � � �� October 22, 1986 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, OCTOBER 15, 1986 1. Riley, 483-0332 Ron Riley lives at 548 Hein�l Drive, built in 1974. His garag� is set back south property line, and he proposes to addition. The lot is 93' x 153'. The a variance from th� required t�n feet 1959i to the five feet proposed. in a home that he had fifteen feet from the add a ten foot garage additi.on wi11 require ( lot platte�l a.f t�er We reviewed prQcedures for a minor variance, that appeared reasonable in this case. 2. Olsonoski, 831-3201 Ron Olsonoski is looking for a fourth site for Transmission Repair fa�ility. Eie ne�ds about an this facility, which will hav� cight bagrs and offic�s for the total system, whi�ch th�y expect �o a period of time. This us� is a Sp�cial Us� Dis�rict. a Motec acre for possibly grow ov�r in �a �-3 He was laoking at th� land zoned H-2, at th� southwest corner of Long Lake RQ�,d and County� Road D. I discourag�d th� us� of this prop�rty, inasmuch as the ac�� for th� land to the south (a very laxge tract zon�d 8-2) is thrc�ugh this prop�rty to County Road D. Thus, it is b�st for �hc City it they ar� dev�l�p�d tog�ther. we also d�lscusseci th� possibility of him using th� �xisting gas station on the corn�r whieh is zon�d B-3, now occupi�d by a video store. We discuss�d oth�r possible locatians �ertinent to h�s zoning and locatian requir�m�nts. 3, erusman, 854-�&00 Bill Brusman, of Realty Develogment Se�vices, was in with 3im Sencien who propos�s to develop a n�w Hampton Inn in Rosevil].e. They currently have un�lez way the construction of a Hampton Inn at 494 and Lyndale, consisting of one hundr�d fifty ��ems in Rlehf�eld. They are a1�� constructing a Hampton Inn in Mendota Heights. They are looking seriously for a sit� in �Roseville, and have examined care�ully the possibli�y of the Ruan site at the � southeast corner ot Long Lake Road and County Road C, They are keen to have a restaurant next daor, as is the policy with Hampton Inns. They note that their occupancy is eighty to eighty-five p�z�cent. F'orty-five percent comes via the Holiday Inn reservation system, of which they are a part. u � � Planning Office Hours October 15, 1986 There are eighty to ninety Hampton Inns They would charge $40.00 per night. The height) features an indoor swimming papers, and free continental breakfast. bui ld one hundred and f if ty rooms in about a 3.5 acre site. Page 2 around the country. Inn (five stories in pool, free morning They would like to Roseville, requiring The sites they have examined include Ruan, a clinic north of the old Last Frontier site, Rentco�, Willmus site southeast corner of B-2 and Cleveland, the Victoria Station site, and the Cort BuiYding north of 36. They noted the Victoria Station site is available far $1 million, equaling $12 per square foot, for 1.8 acres. I sugg�sted the Ruan site would b� best, and that its location contiguous to the freeway is more important than the adverse irnpact of the high lines. I not�d, too, the difference in signage height and ar�a available to sit�s co�atiguous tca the f reeway. They ar� going to continu� to analyze their potential, 4. Rosewood, 636-8054 Fred Katter, Garv No�ciness and Peter Hilger, from Rosewood, w��e in with Herb Ketcham and Geore�e Loison of the Architec- tural Alli�ncc, and D�nnis Marhul� of W�stwood Engine�ring Company, to discuss their r��ised sit� and building plans for th�ir office p�oject northwest�rly o� th� int�erchange of 35t�t �rnd �'runk Highway 36. Th�y hav� �evised the sitc pian, adjustir�g to concerns a�� had cxp�e�s�d a'� our l�st m��ting, moving �he building m�ss further to t�e �outheast, claser to th� Ere�way interchange, se+�ting thse bui].dings back a greate� dist�nce nff Highway 36 for �h� �wo �tructures to the west, and signi£ic�ntly ir�proving the access roadway ar�d builciing ta parking r�lationships in the process. Now th� major s�ruc�ures are in thc cemtcr oF the parking a��a, eliminating �h� �xcessive r�a].k ta th� exkr�m� edge� of the parking �rea in th� fQrm�r d�sic�n. The d�velopm�nt pl.an� r��lly i�aok quitc good. W� discussed th� n�ed to r�locate the sa�vice entrance to th� ma�o� of�icc buildings, inasmuch as they w�re acc�ssibl� only via a�even foot his�h wrap spac�. I�ugg�sted daing this with the upper l�u�l, whcrc �he hcight restri�tion wfll not prev@nt deli�re�y uia trucks, most of which are greater than s�v�n fe�t in height (s�m�.s ar� 13'6), Dave .7anisch review�d str�et wiaths, ric�ht-o�-way widths, and sidewalk requirem�nt�� I sugg�st�d traftic anaiysis be done � so as to det�rmine appropriate geom�tric set i.ntersection�, turning lanes, and trav�l lane configurations. Pondiriq ar��s hav� been expanded� and ar� plann�d to accommodate three feet of boun,ce. David revi�wed drainage r�quirements and concepts. annin Of f ice Ho• P1 g October 15, 1986 Page 3 I suggested they utilize their own development counsel • relating to the timing of the preparation of the EAW, and potential needs for an EIS (which we intend to avoid). We also discussed the architecture of the buildings, suggest- inq that they avoid the "total glass cube" effect� They are going to consider re�isions based on our comanents, and be back for further review preliminary to submission to the Planning Commission and Council for PUD and site plan app�roval. 5. MRC, 831-2772 Gary �odge, of MRC, was in with Del Kinney and Dave Nelson of Nelson, Carlson Associates, Dave Jenkins of Jenkins Assoc- iates, and John Martin of Keiser Design Build Company, to review sit� plans and building plans f�r the development of a h�avy metals recovery facility south of Rose Place. The desic�n revisions, based on our ].ast conversat�on wer� completed, in�cluding the extensio� of the finished material to the entire office area (on the extcrior), a reduction 4� the parking, th�: moving o� the parking away from th� Garner of the building (was five feet), and desi�nation of futur�: ex�aansion not conflicting with the parking ageas. As propos�d, this building wi1.1 app�ar to work wel�, and wi11 bo an attrac�iv� d�velog�mcr�t. � DaUe Janisch drai.nag� and preiiminary t� State PCA. � r�vi�w�� h� �r�g�.n��:ring �lem�nts, includin� utiliti�s. Th�y axe s�eking a�gradi�g permit foundatic�n permits, �o114wing approval '�y th� 6. Pi�r 1, �2�-0626 Ben �icr�riman is iookir�g �or a c�n� acxe site for an �� 004 s�quare foot, freE standing structure �o b� oc�upi�c� by Pier 1, a r��ailer of importeei gAod�. Ne inc�uired about th� site at thc narthw�sfi� corn�� of Sn�lling �venu� a�n�i CQunty Road 8� �, t�ie noted th�at �ite, originally prop�os�d as a�avir►gs and logn sit�s was ulrimately used, wi�th th� expansion of Etosc�dal� as an int+�r:�m p�ndinq� site. Mos� a� the t�me th�r� is �c� wat�r on th� si�e, so it apPears to b� dQv�lopa�l�. W� discuss�d other possik��.e l.acations, includinq �x�as tt�� could b� lea�ed within existing or proposed s9�opping c�n��rs in the Ciky. The�►, at �course, want to be clo�� Q �tgs�da�l�, � requir�ment di�fiGult t� achievc c�n a sinc�le, fre� �tanding sit� of tY�at �iz�� i� ,is, hawev�r, nice t4 be remind�c� th�t th�re ar� esta�b�ishcd r�etail�rs who desire to mave to Ro��ville. 7. JLN, 48?-3519 Bi11 Frank� Putn�m from erian ,7ohnson revised plans the southeast Ghandl�r Vault and Tim Nelson, frc�m JLN, w�r� in with Dav� M�rilla Associat�s (professional �ngi��rs), and John Rugc�ieri, architects, to px�sent for their two 5tructur� offic� developm�nt at �orn�r of Hamlin� and Highway 36 (Wii.bert- site). L� �� Planning Office Ho • October 15, 1986 u Page 4 We were all concerned to note the sit� plan had been dras- tically revised to include a sort of service road running north and south, immediately contiguous (without setback) to Hamline Avenu�. This produced a very short "throat" for access to Hamline, a tight turning radius, a ment for dropoff at the two �truc�ures, and a less workabl� arrangement for vehicular ac c e� s Lo t he structure in rela- drainale to th� parking ramp, Additional analysis of the 9, grading, and landscaping had not been done� I expressed o��r �rave conecrn to Messrs. Frank� and N�lson regarding the lack of progress and �tatus of the design, and thc ti�ing of pr�paration Af staff repo�ts fog �h� planning Commissio� and Council. A subse�uent reyi�W of addition�l P��ns submitted on Friday ind�ca�ed it was obvious thati a delay in prac�ssing the h��rings r�levant to this would be app�opriate. Such a d�l�y will be request�drby�th� �PPlicants, in wri�ing. �• Fi�n, �93-9004 John �inn repr�sent� Li�coln P�o��rCies, wh� ��ns th� ��ir_ dale ShoP��n9 Cent�r wes��rly p� R�sedale. �h�� PrQFflse �o cons�ruct � child ca�e c�nter, op�ratin� on an hou�ly bas�s, $t the northwe�t �or�ian �f the c�n�er �tructur�. This faci�.ity wi11 b+� simi,l�� o "Kicl� Time Qu�" now in ��r�t�,an �t Ca],houn Squa�e, wh,icfi i� s�r��iar t� ona $ls� operat�r� �t S�wtrid�le. The s�$�fe e�xefully, cont�rollod i�� he S��te, takQs si�c�QQn moc�th to tw�lv� �e�8� o�d chi id��ra f�om 8: 30 �.m. . �.m. � �ith � �ivQ hcaur m�ximum, 'Thi.� is e �o �Q.00 paren+ts �an drep �h�ir �hi,��r�n ef� fo� shogt st�,�►s �rhi�t� they shop or �IA othe� err�nefs� �rid�y and S�turd�y hou�g ��e �:30 a.m. ta n��,c�night, �nd on S�nd�y �rom 9:00 �.�n, �� 9:40 �.m. Th,is appe�,rs to �e an c�xc�,llc�n+� �ervicc� �o %a add�� to th� R�sadaY� �r��,, a�d is a�p��i�,l U�e �.n ��-� z�ning �istric�, aP�13��b�.e �a thi� �a�o�Qrt�. We, �hQ�ofer�, reviewa�t app�mpri�te r�en�s f�r ��plic�t�om m�d �"t�cedure� and rQc�uix�= Commi�sic,n �nd C�uncil, �r'�ces�in�g thro�gh thQ Pi�nning �. Sk��FQl. 43S-3A78 Dan Sto�fQl s a build�r wha pr+�gos�s to add ar� addition to the zoar of th� home o� t��s� i,8vanne Ols�n, rc�iding �t �499 C�nt�r�nial �treet. �t�e additi�n will b� wiehin k�ren��►-sev�ec� f��t of the re�r lo� �in�, wi�ar��s thirty fe�� is rec�uired. App�:opriate proceduie� and r�q�irem�r�ts for a mino� varianc� we�� r�vic�ed wikh Mr. �toffQl. �h� a�plicati�fl, ir� �hi� 4a�w, s��ms app�opriate. �0. Hunn� 646-575b B�rbara iiurrar was back to revi�w h�r revis�d, mor� exaGt sit� pl�ans indicati,ng th� proposed addition of ��wimming �ool structure on he� hom�� Planning Office Hours October 15, 1986 • Pa e 5 g � Dave Janisch reviewed the scale plans, determinin that the 9 setback to the new property line would be within nine feet of the rear of the structure fronting on Ruggles. The resultant lot will still b� at 1.81 feet in depth, and thus th� property l.i�e can be moved (as discussed in previous reports) so as to provid� a t�n foot setback for the new additio� of the swimming poa�. enclosure. Thus, this devQlopment can �e pxoc�;ssed as a minor variance, followed by an administrative move of the lot line, ultimately dividing the two lats. Nei�her lot will b�come substandard under this pracedure, thc�reby qualifying for the administra- t�ve move of the lot lin�. 11. Wil�on 252-6262 �t�ve �1 lsor�, r�pr��n�ing �the Hrutger Development Corpora- tion out of St. Cloud, was in +�a review their landscape plan to� the housing d�v�lapment at the southeast corner of HighwsY 36 and V�.ctoria. fihe �anc�sca�� plan propos�d is almast exactly as a�prnvQcl b�r �he Pl�nninq Commission and Ceuncil. Ther� is v��y 1it��.e l�nclgcapinc� on the n�rth �:nd, however, whe�e th� pl�ns inc3i�a�ed a suhstan�ial �nc��nt of existing tr�e growth. 1�� went ta tha �itQ tca �xamine this qro�rth, � and �ound that it �i11 b� adequat� if it is all retain�d. I al�o notod �hat th�re i� rel�tia��y lit�l� landscaping contiguou� to �h� k,uilc�ing on th� �a�t �id� arient�d kowaxd �he backy��d cr� �h� �antigtac�u� singl�e ,�amily hom�own�rs to thQ Q��t. T`hcts� homc�ow�nc�rs h�v� th� c�ption of a fc�ncc b+�ing construc��d, to ?� de��srmina�d af�er th� stru��Ur� �s upa x� thQ fQnc� is not �4r��ructc�d, I�ugg�s�+�d that a►eidit�ional �ouncl�ti�n plantir�g �cauld �� r�c�uir�d along t2a�: c�ast �icle of �hc� st�uc��re. �`�rus, +�h� �1�r►� w��e �►pprc��i su.b��c� to �uch additiQnsl pl�n�irrq �n thc� e��t �id� of th� building. � =► ,`', . ; October 14, 19 � T0: Jim Andre � �J FROM: Howard Dahlgre,i SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, OCTOBER 8, 1986 1. Hunn, 646-5756 Barbara Hunn owns two houses contiguous to one another, fronting on Ruggles and Hamline. She has a backyard pool on the property on Hamline where she resides, and proposes to add a 8'x 35'x 4' "lap" pool. The latter is proposed to be within a structure for wintertime exercise swimming. The structure would be attached to an existing three season porch at the upper level of the house (the existing outside pool is at the lower walkout basement level). It appears the location proposed is the obvious place to put the addition. However, it will infringe on a lot line separating the two properties, so it is a matter of adjusting the lot line. The property on Ruggles is occupi�d by an older house, with the house set near the rear lot line so that the movement of the lot line will place it less than thirty feet from the new rear lot line. However, this lot is very large, with the house being set well back from Ruggles (this being the original farm house in this area). At some point in the not too distant fut.ure, the older house will likely be torn down, so its location relative to the proposed swimming pool addition is not that crucial. The drawing she presented was not drawn to scale, and some of the dimensions were lacking. I suggested that firs� she have the land surveyed so as to ascertain the exact location of the structures and the lot lines. I suggested then that she may consider tearing down the old house now, and her building a new house with the pool the way she wants it (with a single pool rather than two pools). I suggested that marketing a home with two swimming pools may be a problem in the tuture. She suggested that the teasibility of the investment over time is no problem to her. She is going to think about the options and get back to us with a more accurate drawing. It may be that this develop- ment proposal can be handled by an administrative lot line movement, coupled with a minor variance. 2. 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats�rorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. � Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road CZ County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 B:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,f=,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,I8-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-� :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:I2,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairsaays Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood P.ve. Fermvood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane G1uek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinei Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �,4,11,13 , ,L:I2 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:I9 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J : 2 F:2Q B-D,F,L:13 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-Q:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-ZO L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 8:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,G,J,L.:17 J:2 C,0:13 l ;11-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,L:12 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren R�. Love�l Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Matilda St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S. Mc�arrons S�. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Hills Rd. Midlothian Rd. hlid Oaks Lane & Mildred Dr. Miliwood Ave. Miliwood St. Milton St. MinriFsota a�e. Moundsview Ave. t+lount Ridge Rd. I��ncy Pl ace Northview St_ Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lan� Owasso Blvd. 5 Owasso Blvd, W �xford St. Parker Av�. Pariridge Rd. Pascal Si. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Przor Circle Ramb7er Court Rambler Rd. Rayrnand Ave . Rice St. Ridgewood La. N Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Roseda7e Dr. Roselawn Ave. Ros�rood La. N Ruggles St. Russe7l Ct. Rd. & & S A:17,18 � A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-6:14 C D,J,L:17 B:1 6:1,7,8,20 6:29 N:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 6-D,Fi, K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,B:6 �:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 G:13-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 6:2Q E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-B:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-6:15-16 A,C-F,ii,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:ZO J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12s15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 �:3-4 K:11-13 6:8 icyan Ave. � Sandhurst Dri ve--- Sandy Nook Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheidon St. 5herren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Sne7ling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhiil Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 28Q St. A7bans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road _Surrarer St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virgi�ria Ave. Virginia Circle 4lagener Pl ace Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter �r. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wh2eier Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Willow Circle Wi11ow Lane Woodbri�ge Circle Woodbridge Court Woodbr�idge St. Woodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive Woadruff Ave. � a^t� a 7��9-13��.7�� 0-12,14,15,17,19 R`17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,1b,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-6:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-ZO G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 8:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:I9 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K:18 � �.1 Plannin Of f i • Octoberg8, 1g86 Hours Their would to be • Page 2 objective is to start site preparation this fall, and seek site preparation permits, with foundation ermits sou ht after completion of the State's approval process tnow in a fo.rty-five day public comment waitin g period). We discussed the parking arrangement which was based on assumed office occupancy in the large area used for storage and other non-office uses. I su use of the buildin gg��ted that calculating the show on their. plan �lasereto whatltheydactuall nee�l�g they employees are anticipated to be twent Y d• '�heir second shift which may be on the site duringltheerturnovera Perhaps an additional fifteen spaces for visitors and canferences equal the total of fort sixty spaces shown on the site lan.��e� They have some adequate space to p There is more than provide additional parking in the future if necessar�, but it would appear that a more e�act calculation of the use of the structure would produce a parking require�- ment of approximately forty spaces. We discussed the setback of the building which was thirt feet on the west side. The code requires ten feet. y decided, ultimately, to retain the thirty foot setback dueWto the number and nature of utility lines occupying this space. We reviewed the drainage situation with Charlie HQnchell and Dave Jani.sch. The truck waitin unloading area drains through a tankmsystemringAfte�ates�innd the runaff is pumped into the sanitary sewer system along the west sic�e of the building. Bruce Ryden join�d us, and later reviewed separately with them, some of his requirements. Zater that he has no problem with thersiteyplanras�rted to us proposed . We also reviewed the architecture of the building. The propose the use of brick on Y suggested that the office areapbe�enclosed in�brick�in� I entirety rather than an arbitrary cutoff of this more expens sive material. The remainder of the structure i� prefinished metal sandwich panel, including insulation. We discussed the use of this material, suggesting the elimina- tion of a portion of the structu�E to utilize bzeak off block. I suggested moving the parking area slightly nor�h to increase the distance from the building to greater than five feet as shown. They will revise the drawings and si.te plans and come back for final review preliminary to seekzng an excavation and grading permit. � 3• N�ordstrom 933-7773 Mik� Nordstrom, who is the �ocal Burger King Development Manager, was in with pro osed rev�.sions to the Burger Kin psite prel.iminary plans for the Snelling and County Road B.g The planhindicatedsthe�r��r .pf to the west side recommenc1ed by the Cit �slan. direct access southerly to tr.e contiguous�RacocoVRestaurant,a 1:', ' � Planning Off ice Hours � � October 8, 1986 • Page 3 S The site plan proposed the construction of a newoffr�the entering and exiting directly through facility This provides for service road on the west side of �heldrive-up window, but has a likely stacking area preceding the disadvantages of access and herWest�sidehofpthelCproPerty Persons entering the site from t (off County Road B) would have to go out into the public service road on the east side of the site, and then back in to get into the drive-through lane.. Working with Charlie and Dave, I suggested a revision that provides an entrance tO and drive-through lane on ther meCountydRoadfB on thelwesterly encroaches on the setback f side of the property (rather than tSnellingckAvenue�e nThis side of the existing building near would allow for the re�tention of the existinanY�aWdthintwhich the building, which is nicely landscaped, they propose to add a"sun porch" dining area as is bhese done in many restauranta larentlypwill�betwithinuthey thirty days. This structure pp foot setlaack requirement. C �J Mike is going to have thi� }�y their local sugervisor, a specific proposal. revised idea drawn up �nd reviewed and wi7.1 get back �o the City with 4. Vanasse, 631-17�.1 architect from D.F.P. Leon�rd Vanasse was in with Jim Held, Planning and Design (780-1920) tevelolmenteof�adPrice1�Savers site plans for their propasecl d P Warehouse store between T�ong Lake Road�ee�d 3wi�� 36 pParking structure is now at 109,000 square . spaces (545 required). The structure would have a ceiling height o� 24 feet. Sn �esponse to our expression of site planning inadequacies and concerns previously reviewesi �ower�the 5tandarrl Oil�ngas Commission, they now propose to 1 and revised the line near th�: south edge of the property, plan so as to correct thesdeliveoy area�onnthe souths side include relocating the truck of the structure, with the front where they were formerly lacated now being total].y landscapednoWT�oyaedrivewaydto�ethe the �thr�e driveways , Conf ining �.t The l,and will north and one to the south of the str,ucture. be regraded so there is no elevati.on change required by t�� i eline. There is no longer parking backing out existing P P into the main acce�s drives to the north or south of t e structu�e. There remains the problem ofVanassellb�a�rahe�yeartl9gplea�e continues, according to Mro ► arently notes his desire totre�o�va�tse�• billboard, but apP lacks the legal abilz y i � � Planning Office Hours October 8, 1986 Page 4 The setback for the parking on the east side of the site was shown at less than the required fifteen feet. With respect to the sign, it was suggested that the site will remain in a nonconforming status unless a variance is processed and approved for the billboard. Provisions and the preparation of a grading plan would have to occur prior to their resubmitting the application for staff review. I suggested that this left. the Council with the option of considering these revisions without adequate staff review, or referring the substantially revised site plan back to the Planning Commission tor its cansideration. I noted that in cases of this kind, a submission of a radically revised site plan usually results in a referral back to the Planning Commission for its reconsideration. Revisions could include additional screening of truck loading area, movement of employee parking easterly, elimination of the one way truck �gress driveway, moving of the pick up loca�ion, adding landscape elements on portions of the site, adding a sidewalk designation an street frontac�e, resolution of the problem of the nonconforming advertising sign, and preparation of grada.ng and drainage plans. 5. Jonasen, 633-8080 Chuck Jonasen was in to see us �egarding the City's permis- sion to add an exterior dumpster to the Perkin's Restaurant site �ast of Snelling Avenue, north of County Road B. They want to tak� the interior dumpster location, and convert it tQ usable space. �e not�d that the variances issu�d to the site, wh�n it was an Uncle John's Pancake Restaurant, were on the candition that the dumpster be inside the structure. I suggest�d, therefore, that placing the dumpster outside in this important area of the City is not allowed. We r�oted too, that revi.sions are proposed for the Target store site, and that I had sugg�:sted the Target store people get in touch with him regardi.ng their changes as they� may affec� Perkin"s site conditians. 6. Stub�nberg, 489-9444 Elaine S�ubenb�rg and Ann�tte Rahn wexe in to discuss possible d,u�Ie� use for a home owned by Elaine Stubenberg at 232� Victoria. This is a very large lot with an older hotne, portions of which are I:cated on the f uture right-caf �-way f or Lovell. The home now has a second unit, previously occupied by relatives. �nnette Rahi� is Mrs. Stubenberg's daughter, �nd px'Qposes to occupy the second unit in the structure. We reviewed the City's pUlicy regarding duplexes, and � suggested that it may be appropriate tor them to request the Building Inspector to review the structure prior to any further action. Plannin ' � • � g Of f ice Hours October 8, 1986 Page 5 • We also discus . sed the problem of clearing the building to dedicate the appropriate right-of-way for Love11, and this possible impact on the request for duplex use of the site. Pending the result of the site inspection, they may proceed with a proposal. I also suggested they review their plans with the neighbors prior to submission. It appears that the house on the north side is located within six feet of the existing forty-two Foot right-of-way. Thus, portions of the structure are well within the future right-of-way requirement. 7. Dillner, 633-3230 Phyllis Dillner lives on a 2.5 acre site with 279 feet of frontage on the east side of Acorn Road, northerly of County Road B. This is an area of very large residential lots, with extensive tree growth. We discussed the possible way in which a second home site could be provided on the site with, perhaps forty feet o£ frontage for the easterly portion of the sit� (for the existing house), and mor� than adequate frontage for a proposed house, and suggested a drawings could be I�P�'opriat� prepared, and submitted as a preliminary plat, inasmuch as the existing properties are metes and bounds properties. � 8. Zaun, 48�--8755 Mary Zaun lives at 3�116 west Owasso Boulevarcl on the w�st side of the lake, on the east side of Owasso Boulevard, a short distanc� s4uth oi the north City limits. 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I a� �� :� ��. .... .� wa �� ? a � � f� ,��./ � � o . . � r `P I�'�' y �� _ ROSEYILLE � N �� , � s� �� y � , � � w 1'� � �,�;, .d �� r� �� O]�,�� REVISED DAYE J� _ _ � ��I�i� ��.�L� � �� I �5�� I �I � C 1'� :•�• s: �� al��iL�� .:6T .." � �Q �^ f I � {� � i3 �� 4 � 5 � 16 � 17 $� !8 � f9 �I 20 'I ia-!�� a- � F�L . .-�..r, ... � � � U October 10, 1986 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, OCTOBER 1, 1986 1. Tarqet, 370-5927 Dennis Henderson and Forres�. Russell, representing Target Stores, were in with John Sponsel, architect, to review thier preliminary p].ans for the expansion of the Target store in Roseville. Their standard store these days is 101,730 sqttare fc:et. The Rosevill� existing store is 78,0�00, to which they propose to add an addition om the z�ortln side and a me�zanine floor of 4,000, to total 107,A00 square fee�, 'They propose to remave the TBA (ta.res, battcric:s, �nd �cc�ssories) on th� west side, and add an addition to th� r�ortt� sid�. This addition will be withinWt�in��husV�requirc�ram thr�� foo� right-of-way lin�, and i variar►ce. They propos� to leave the Knowlan store which they would rather conv�rt �o Target space, bu� becaus� �f the lon9't�xm lease with option� that exists with K�o�rlan'�, this is nmt possibl�. The tQtal sguare fooCae�e of the 1ae�ilciinQ i�i�� Knowlan's) wil� be ].32,3q0 squarc feet, �+hi�h would reguir�r 662 spac�s . Th+�y na�a have 7 p 5 spac�s, �nd the new �ls�n wou�.d provide for 'D38 spaces. '��us. with the �xparaded building, �hcrc will be more p�rkinc� thar� that req►�ired by ordinance. This store i.s �r►e o� th�ir he�t �tores �a�d, of ccauAsc, wa� therc �irst st�xe, witl� St. d�oui� Pa�k b�cing t1�� secand. This buildinc� was o�ic��nall�r vu�.lt� fo� thc "Jubile�" discaut�t �tore, th�n le�sed by '�arge� in 1�62 �rod ultim��e�y purchas�d. I$ugg!ested th�t inasm��h as �his was their �irst store l�nd the �irs� of m�ny ultimat� success�s� theY shou].d rencw th� ex�erior of �he cnta.re bu3.lding, and add a li�tl� "class"` . They said they 1�auld take a s�r��.ous loc�k at that ide�, taut �hey may not be able to rlo any�hing �o the Knowian's por�ion. t�t� not�d that �o�ld b�� xcepted, �if tha� did a good job on �he remaindcr. Circulation was �iscussed with the �ngin�ering �ta�f as r�lates to th� p�oPosed scrvice road i.mprover��nt t r�ot �oW pro�oscd), and circulation as it �el�t�s to CountY R°�►� e'th� end�rsed the ext�n�iQvides tor b�tt�r�tu�nin9 movem�rat�ir�to access off B which p�' Knowlan's and th� rema�.nder of th� sit�. Thcy will be b�ck with r�vi,sions, and proceed ultimat�ly with an app].ication for varian�o�WhichSthis�area�is�zoncdund�r the shopping center district CJ � Pl.annin Office Hou•rs g October 1, 1986 • Page 2 2. Kaufhold, 489-2501 Fred Kaufhold and his wife have a.67 acre lot with frontage on the west side of Victoria, south of Highway 36. Contiguous to their lot on the north side is an easement which serves as road access to a strip of five lots, which are immediately south of and contigous to Highway 36. Fred's lot is deep, and has enough land ar�a behind his house for another lot. This lot would have to front on this same ease- ment. It would seem like a reasonable possibility for creating another lot, and another building site in the City that would otherwis� not be buildable. He wants to build a new house f�r his wife and himself on this propErty, I suggested that he first asc�rtain the s�atus of the ease- ment and its width, and wheth�r or not his prop�rty has rights to th� casement. Yt �.s al�o possibl� that given dedica�ion of a public easement, the City could improe�� the acc�ssa 3e �mmons, 633-2574 Robe�t w. Emmons has a�.12 acr� single fa�rily r�sidential lot just r��arthwe�t�rly o� Tom wilmus' lot, nor�h�asterly o� Hamline, £rontinc� on Lak� �asephin+e. �� shoc��d us a p�eliminary drawing iYlust�atir�g a way in which the pxaperty could be divid�d inta fiv� singl� ��mily �ots. Rob�er� ciiscuss�ri the �ani�tary s�wage situation w#,th Ch�rlie Wo�ct�� 11, A pu�bl ic sewer 1� f t may be ne��ss� �y p t=ir . E�tmoms uses grav�ty f�lnw f�om hf� rious� witih a� s�wa�e puanp hanc�ling his 1aw�r lev�l. That is an4ther c�ption. Mr. E�nmon� is �oing Co cii�c�ss i�is pl�tti�c� propo�� w.�tn hir � Wilmus, s,�ho�e lot ta +�hc sauth is al�o v�ry l�rg�. i �ugge�ted he �evxew th�s� propos�l� wit� hi� n�ig�hbars, �nd �consic��r R pr�liminary �la� a� �uch time a�s Mc m�y �ecrl �pprop�-iat�. Baue ��nisch and Ch�rles l�onchell c�ave h�m helpful ��im�t�� reg�rdinq� d��elopment co�ts. 4. CommQrs. �33--fi312 �an Commers wa� b�c�: to r��iew h,is �tt�m�� to �ecur� tha right-af-w�y r�+orthca�ly o£ thc �ul-de-sac contic�uous �o the prop+er�y he is curre�tl�r �iorrelop,�ng north o� Gount�y �osci C, and just ��st :�f the �rc��erl�► Cit�r lim�t�. Comm�rs �nc� Paul ftlodt have be�n negotiat�r�� with `aiiliams for t�e �auxchase af the �r�perty, which i��s n�w been +�ak�n off �l�e m�rke� for awhi ].e so tiza�t s�i 1�ests c�n be ��k�r� � Charlie Honchell sugg�sted that� a method o� �roceeriing witl� th� construct.iv� o� �t�c s��e�� waulc� k3� �c�Y 3�i� �r� ��.i.�i�n � for th� street to be construct�d se� a� ta pravid� fron�ag� for the propert� �hat he owns narth of �he buildinq now ua�der constructiQn. This prc�p�rty wauld f�ont on th� east side o� th� str��t. • Planning Office Hours October 1, 1986 Page 3 • He noted that if Commers and Klodt would propose to pay the full assessment for the str�et, that the street riqht-of-way could thus be acquired, the street constructed with utilities, and assessed against his property only, On that basis, certain hearings can be eliminated, and construction can proce�d. This action would then provide access to the south end of the Wforithe developmen� ofhtheseoucxcessvida�ds overall solution for the Williams Tank Farm properti�s. � � 5. Jens�n, 4$3�-1200 Rob Jens�n is � rc�ltor from Merrill Lynch, ropresenting a single family t�om� property at 411 �outh Owasso Boul�vard. This property consists of two ninety �Qse ar��e�ninetyh foot owner now proposes to divide in�o two p lots. The existing k�ous� is on onc �la�, �nd the g�r�gc i�s on the o�her. �he g�'�89�hus wouldgneedc��variance�i� the��lot� Ow�sso Boulev��d, and is to b� deye�oped further. I �ugc�est�d that it m�g�t be a�prop�ia�te +ta gim��y �taa� �he gar�ge doaan, and l�t the new own9r oE tt�e �ra�erty devc�lop hi� owr� g��ae�e wY�erc it may l�cc ma�ze ag�pro�ri�t�s. H� may wish �o ac�d i+t to th�c house. "�hug, a lot rlivision and, ultimat��, �a sharelir�e dev�lop�c�nt reviQw �auld bc3 r�c�c�c9ed fo� rl`�c ci��r�l��e�onin�r.��fosa�� on�t�g� prop�sac3 for ��ch � f ir� se�a1Q �ith Y' �hQ two 1�� q�a��ti4r�. G� N,,,�t�l�c�,� 4�9 t 8��7 J�ff N��lson, "��m t��lson, �rnd ��11 1��c�nica. ��tor�ey, �ac�r� �n to rc�e��.�� 1��i� con�em��r�� do��ia��nt �o�° �ha �►ilic�r�� Ch�ndle�� u1t C�mp�ny pro�r�� ared th� home� +�a ehc� �au�h, o�� he ��.�e� ��d� �E ��r�iir��. '�Ira� �:czv��w�d �hc�r ic��i�a�l n��a��tion� c��1 �hQ �t�l��i+�-C�a�n�lg�r ��caplc�, anc�� Q� �h�i� �.n�t�ntic�� t�► r�o� s�c�u� f��m �hQ �i�c. t�1�3��+�+t�l� th�� g��od �h�� tt�e� ��. �� pla�in�r �I�� ruc+�ur� �nd pro�� t� �t � di��nr��t ��.o� is ��,�m�t�ed �� 1.� cni.l��on. '�he� t�Qt�d � of�i�a ��a�a cost�. �'hQ�' 'Ti�� e��t�inc� �e s��o,oao. h�t thei�r ci��p�+�nr� �ra�+o��l �,� �ar "hig�h anc�� i�n tt�e vi�i�i�� r�E �1QOi�ql+��re �caot eonstruc�,ior► ��+�ima�e ovQr�li� cic�v��.o�cn�� a� �� r�iilion. t�x�s �re S��OOp, �u�ur� �a�c�� are Q�t,im�tod I not�d tlr� �mpQr�ance �E m�,int�ir�i.r�g th� neic�h,'��ri�oo�� t4 tE�e ��st � �nd tt�e �,mp�ct of �n �ppropri�te �r�n�it�.on �CQ�ome the r��r �.ot l�nes foi th� lots �rQn��ng on Aell��oad, oz ci��e lc�� c �p t� �e�,!� h�►n�� t de�p, which cio�sn' � m�k� �ense �o� �he lor�g pull either. I h�d e�rl.ier �ug4ested �h,�� a lar�dscg�e tr�nsition stri�, s�r�etizing lika for�y i�� wide, simil�r to th�� used azound K�r Mar, would b� an appro�riate m�kMod. They did not wan� want �o com�lic�te matt�rs, however, by attcmpting ta a�cquire portions of th� singZc family lots where the lots sre �xces�iv�ly de�p� � � � � Planning Office Hours October 1, 1986 � Page 4 I suggested that the land use proposed (o�tic�s) is no� the serious question� but tha,t the height of the buildings wi11 be. W� talked about �the po�sibil.it�.es of building lower structures. A ten stcyry and a three story bui�ding is proposed. Part of this �roject might inclu�e expansion space for the library. Actua�lly, the r�mai.nder of the site (where the Wilbert-Chandl�r V;�ul.t pr�aperty is) would make an exeellen� site for thc* relocat�d �ost nffice. This developm�nt, hnwever, migh�t no� mak� a f�asi.bl� tax i�crement program (a�sumin4 51.8 million is need��i for the re].ocation aE tihe Wilb�rt-Ch�ndlex �iactl� Campan�y) . The V�Qult Company prope� �y� is zon�d indu;ytrial and is, of eourse, a ca�ry ove� f�oim wt��t� tV�� plara� was ba�ilt ir� the days of the T�wn�hip. C�a�g �►aldron r�vi�w�d tax incr�m�r��t r�umb�rs with th�m, and they axe goi�g to conciuc� iu,r��e� reviea� prior t�o any further d�velo�ment plans. It a�spi.�rs abvious that offic� use iar this p�opQ�ty i� maare a��rapriatc than th� �x��ting ind�astr�al u�e, There app�,ars, ho��v�r, a re�l �arobl�m of in�orming th� neighbor� as to ��€� im��ac�; and �hat on� Qf tl�e a��ectives w�u1d k�e +�o solid�lf�► th� r�eigh�o.�hoad Co th� �ast C�nd pe�hap� solv� +�he p�oblc►m c�f �t�� exc+�s�ivcl�r d��p lats �award th� sau+�f�e�l�r �a�e of the proF�rti�es ir� gues�tian) . ?. �acksor�. Qa3-'�671 4Mild�ed Jack�on l�vQs at 1�00 6��odhill, and p��c�pos�s to �cMd a �0 x 22 foo�t ga�ago ta �a� eaci��ti�g �3 ac � 2�aot g�ra��, on t,h� wost 5ido �f ��r lo�. Th� ten �o�a� ad�l,iti�on will resv;lt in a thr�e foot s;ide yard satbac�k, wh��s � five �oot sici� ��rc� �e�bAck i� r�qui�Qd in +�hi.► a�ea. Obvic�usly, (building a ��r�g�o less �han t�� Eeet i� ir�pxa�tical. 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A len S. p Drive � y • 9 F,K:13 Dunlap St. F L:12 Long Lake Rd. Aladdin St. E:16 Loren Rd. Alameda St. I,K:16 Eldridge Ave. �< �' �,lg Lov�ll Ave. Albemarle St. I;20 Elmer St. � Lydia Ave. Albert St. A,B,F,H: Eustis St. .. E,H•1-= •-r•--w Lydia Court Aldine St.� � Evelyn St. A:S� s � Evergreen Ct. �:5 Lydia Dr. Alta Vista�0�� _ � Mackubin St. Arona St��_:_,:.,_.,, _ _ .gC,� ••.� Fairview Ave. A-J:6 Manson St. Arthur P1. g`�6 '� Fairways Lane i:2 Maple Lane Arthur St. A;6 Farrington Ave. I:19 Maple Lane Ct. Asbury St, q�g��:g Farrington CT. A:19 Marion Rd. Auerbach Ave. �:lg � Farrington St. B-D H L:19 Marion St. Autumn St. K:12 Farrington Circle F:19 � Matilda Circle Avon St. A,E,I:15 '°d I-L:11 Matilda St. Bayview Dr. ,1;18 . St� C-E,H:11 McCarron Blvd. N, Beacon St. � �` F15 • E:15 E,F,J:7 Fr St. McCarron Blvd. S. Belair Cir. B:11 y �; E-F,I:8 McCarrons St. �Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 Fulham St. � G-J;2 Midland Grove Rd. �ismarck Ave. G;lg Galtier Circle r F:20 Midland Ni11s Rd. Bossard Dr. H:lg Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Midlothian Rd. Brenner �4ve A•5 6 Garden Ave. K-11 12 A:17,18 � A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-B:14 C D,J,L:17 B:1 6:1,7,8,20 B:I9 H:3 6-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 -,,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. '' Mid Oaks Lane 8 Rd. J;8 Brenner Court q;2 I-J:19 Mildred Dr. Brenner St. q;l Glenhill Road A;lp Millwood Ave. Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Glenwood Ave. K:17,18 Millwood St. Brooks Circle F_19 Gluek Lane H:6 Milton St. Bruce St. F;��g Gluek Lane N& S H:6 Mir�r;Fsota A;re. Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Grandview Ave. G:13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. Capitol View H:19,20 Griggs St. C D:12 Mount Ridge Rd. Capitol View Cir. y:19 Grotto St. E�H:15 lace Carl i sl e Ave. �;17 t�+P 4.� T�_r�`� � gton Road H:8 . r,.� Nor hvi St. Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10„�8�"�',1 T � H�� eAve. G-I-19 � :�c��—�. � Oa�es Ave. Center St. K;20 �•...�...._.._ Oa�- s Lane Chandler St. K:17 ein Dr. A-D:15-17 • Way 8 Chatsrrorth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 e�nel Circlr C-16 Orchard ane Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel Ave. E,N:7 � Owasso B1 Civic Center Dr. D:12 Herschel St. 1� -� Owasso B1 Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 H�ghcrest Road Oxford St .Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Hilltop Ave. �--- -K:.��a Parker Ave. Cohansey Blvd. H_�;�g Holton St. F:10 Partridge Rd. Cohansey St. E-G:18 Huron Ave. K:11 Pascal St. Colonial Dr. G:10 Huron St. C-D:11 Patton Rd. Commerce St. H:9,10 Hythe St. J:4 Pineview Ct. Cope Ave. G:15,16 Iona Circle C:18 Primrose Curve County Road B H:1-20 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. County Road 62 F:5-20 Ione St. L:11 Prior Circle County Road C D:l-2U Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene Court F:18 Rambler Rd. Caunty Road D A:1-7,12-16 Irene St. E,F,H,I:18 Raymond Ave. Crescent Lane I:18 Josephine Rd. B:11 12 Rice St. Christy Circle E:11 Judith Ave. C:10�13,18 Ridgewood La. N&� Dale Court K:16 Karyl Place I:12 Ridgewood Rd. Dale St. C-L:16 Kent St. B,D,J,L.:17 Roma Ave. Dellwood Ave. C,I-I;Ii Lake St. J:2 Rose Place Dellwood St. E-H:11 Lakeview Ave. C,D:13 Rose Yista Ct. Dionne Ave. L:19 Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 Rosedale Dr. Dionne St. L:12,13 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Rosewood La. N& S Lindy Ave. I L:12 Ruggles St. � � Russell Ct. A,6:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 6:8 s� Kyan Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 Sandhurst Drive H:10-12,14,15,17,19 Sandy Hoak Dr, q;Z7 Sextant Ave, F:9,10,12,15,16,18 Shady Beach K:20 SharondaTe Ave. 1;5 Sheldon St. B,D,F:10 Sherren St. H:11-15 Shorewood Cv. & La. A:7 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 Sir�psons St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 Skillman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Snelling Ave, Sn� �1 E ,:9 Sne � � , �y,�i Sneiling Serv.Dr:'� A-D:9 �,, Souihhill Dr. --. S.T.H. 35W A-6:4; G-H:�4 S.T.H. 36 G-H:1-20 � S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 S.T.N. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,S,17i S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 St. Croix G,H:2 St. Stephens St. H:2 Stanbridge Ave. g:7_g Stanbridge St. A:1 State Farm Road H:9 Stuber Road K:16 .Surtrner St. K:12 Talisman Curve D:10 Tatum St. J:6 Ter7ninal Road F:1-3 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseth Rd. 5:1-2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virginia Ave. C-D:19 Virainia Circle F:19 Nag�ner Place k;20 Wagner St. K:17-19 4Jalnut St. E-H:l West Perimeter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. B-K:18 Westwood Circle J:4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 Wilder St. A,I:S William St. I,J:1g 4iillow Circle E:11 � Willow Lane E:11 Waodbridge Circle G:20 Woodbridge Court L:20 r��+�� 1 ��I,Z�` � '�, Woodruff Ave. ��%� > > >" � �y '""""" INNOVATIVE . . . p. = � Q � MICROGRAPHICS ■ 4�. � . �u E �ro THE POOR CONQITION QF THE PR�CEEDI�IG D�1CU M ENi V1f E CAN NQT � PF�C�DUCE AN AGCEPTAC3LE MICRO�ILM IMAGE.� A � N • October 1, 1986 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, SEPTEMBER 23, 1986 1. Matthews, 483-6971 Mark Matthews, General Manager of Group W in Roseville, was back with a landscaping study indicating the visual site plan relationships between the proposed landscaping to screen their new parking area on the east side of the Lake Owasso School from the residential area on the east side of Victoria. This study indicates the line of sight from the houses would be obstructed (to the parking area) by the con- struction of a berm and the landscaping as previously proposed in their site plan. We also discussed their proposal to build a swale to the southeast from the parking area, to move th� drainage to the � southeast corner of the site. Mr. Honchell had indicated if this were done (as against letting the water flow directly east to Victoria) this would be an acceptable alternative to building a storm sewer from the parking area to the northeast corner of the site. These drawings will be available for review at the Planning Commission hearing and Council meeting in early October. 2. Hankos, 631-4220 John Bankos and John Mosjsi�j, both of Stat� Farm Insurance Company, were in to discuss their proposal fo� constructing directional signs on their site. W� agreed that the stop signs could be constructed where appropriate, though we felt they are not necessary inasmuch as most driv�eways in the City entering major thoroughfares do not use such siqns. Their other signs indicating location for visitors and empl.oyee parking are appropriate as long as they are within the maximws� sign ar�a of 18" x 36" . Thc:y propose to stay within thes� limits. We also discussed their possible use of the open space east of their new structure, which was iese�ved for passihl� parking needs based on their permit issued in 1977. We suggested they conduct appropri�ite parking studies to � demonstrate their nee�,s �or the existing struct�ure and any proposed structure that might occupy partions of this 1and. They agreed to proceed on this basis. Their ul�timate obj�ctive is to increase the size of their structure to the east. • � � Planning Office Hou• September 23, 1986 C� Page 2 3. Casev. 489-2259 Jlm Casey was in to review possible methods of dividin property north of Victoria. g his house and several lots He Wants to sell his existing lots could layed out withnd discussed ways in which these We suggested the public accesslsystemcwould�bepth lic access. that he should acquire topographical data of the bsst' and prepare a preliminary plat. lte and We noted the City's policy on the construction of streets and utilities. He agreed that his westerl public 1ot, contiguous to the Zittel Y most with that property based on thepsanitary sewerdabi developed was constructed by the City several g�ent that years ago. 4• Commers 781-3367 Pat Commers was in with Mark Murlowski, re ard' d�velopment of the 3.5 acre Soo Line site at the ing the corner of Long Lake Road and Count Road D, southeast zoned industrial, and the Y This land is structures on the site, y propose to put up to three (two s�ory) building fo� �om�erSuCOmPanY Wor�hO square foot, The second would be a 10,000 square foot (two s�orut $600,000. for SMR Computers, at a Y) bui�.ding would be an 8,000 square footX(twoestory�sbuildi The thixd Builders, worth approximatel n9 for Belair additional area of screened outdoo��s�orageThe T�w�uld need an the development would be approximatel al value of Y �1.1 million. APparently the site has severe soil Were held with Craig Waldron r�garding�developmentdassisSions through tax increment financing, tance current policy of the Craig nc��ed the City�s as the increments occurpoverna through of tax increment funds pproxima�ely a three year U�rinri They are going to pr�pare that the site might notrbellargey �tructures, in which case the Belair be d�leted. site plans, realizir�g enough tor a11 three Buixders building might 5• Thompson, 332-1234 Milo Thompson, John Akiba (trom Thompson's Lab�re, landscape architect, were in to revisee�land Mark plans €or Stage 1 of their Rosepointe Development� Randscape the staging of their development, we find that thega�ding processed for this site included a Planned Unit D�velo m�ans ancl that the first stage of the development P nt, entirely within one of the two lots to which pt�eossi lies already platted. Thus, a land division will not be necte is at this time, There need simply be joint easementsSsary access and parking as app1ied �o the two lots relating to thr total site. Thus, a buildin e 1 in accordance with the PlannedmUnitanDevelopmentfor Stage aPproved. already Planning Of f ice Hour•s September 23, 1986 • Page 3 • They also reviewed w' ith Dave Janisch their proposal, as requested by the Rice Creek Watershed District, to enlarge the pond �o the north of the developmen� site. This enlarge- ment would enfringe on the shoreline to the extent that a pathway around the pond would be unfeasible. We suggested this is not in the public interest, and its value to the City for park purposes would be practically destroyed. Dave Janisch called the Rice Creek Watershed engineering consultants, pointing out our concerns. Dave noted that they will accept keeping the pond as originally proposed, but requested the transplanting of some of the marsh vegetation (where the pond is to be filled) to the east side of the existing pond. This is a good solution, and will result in the pond being useful for public, park, and ponding purposes. 6. Warner, 481-0370 Marvin Warner lives at 2535 Rice Street, on a single family lot on the west side of Rice Street, with a 169 feet of frontage. He wants to have his land rezoned to B-3, permission to repair automobiles in his existing two car garage, and have the ordinance changed to allow for him to sell used cars on the site. He proposes to park t�e cars on th� lawn in the front of his house. � We r�va.ewed the City's policy regarding strip zoning of commercial str�ets such as Rice Street, suggesting that application for his proposed use would result in a negative decision. At his request, we rev�ewed the procedures that would have to be followed, including the petition �f fifty percent of the contiguous landowners, inasmuch as the prc�posal is not in conformance with thc� Comprehensive Plan. He noted that he could get permission to do this on the property across the street in Vadnais Heights, on land that was recently zon�d comm�rcial. I suggested that h� proceed with that site, or some other location where this use is �ermitt�d. He noted that there are fifty locat�.ons in Roseville where people are s�lling us�d cars. He noted that he and t�is brothers pick up cars at auctions, r�pair them, and sell them. I noted t�hat th� ordinance cloes nat ai.low a"used car lot" as a principal us�, but that us�d cars are permitt�d �or sal� in conjunction with a n�w car agency. 7. Rosewood, 631-3254 Pete Hilc�er, from Ro��we�d, Dennis Marhula, from westwood Engineering, and Herb Ketcham and George Loisos, both from the Architectural Alliance, were in to revi�w the revised preliminary site plans for th� d�velopment of their office � park in the tax increment district at the northwest corner of Highway 36 and 35W. The plans have been substantially revised, and have many good points of design and functional layout. r� U � Planning Office Hour•s September 23, 1986 Following their presentation, concern. � Page 4 we commented on eight areas of 1. The setback for the buildings easterly of Hoffmann Electric is indicated less than the required 100 feet established in the ordinance for this area of the B-4 District. The buildings should be set back further so as to retain more of the trees, similar to what was done on the Hoffmann Electric site. They noted that this change w�ould be accomplished. 2. This same site will have insubstantial open land at the southeast and southwest corners of the site, and have very thin str�ps of landscaping to the north and in the areas between the two structures. We suggested that this area of landscaping should be widened, so as to be more in keeping with the gen�ral green concept of the site. 3. A greater effort shouYd be made to preserve the trees on the narth side of Highway 36. 4. The concentration of buildings, consisting of three structures of seven stories, nine stories, and twelv� stories, is placed near the northwest corner of the large sit� (nearest th� tank farm and Roberts Offic�/warehouses ta the west). �� sugg�sted that thi5 concentration shouYd b� moved furth�r to the southeast, n�ar�r tt��e intersection of 35W and Highway 36. This would a1�ow fnr additional parking o� the nor�h and w�st side of the �hr�� building complex, �. Parking is proposed at a ratio of four spaces p�r thousand. we not�d �hat this reduced ratio is appropriate in larger conc@nt�ation� of o�fice, bas�� on our r�s�areh and o�hers in th� m�tro�olita� area. we w�r� concexn�d, how�ver, that so much of th� pa�king is at a great distance to �he structur�s, ahd that ma�ing them to th� southeast could h�lp corr�ct this condition. 6. The dropoff points for th� khr�� major �tructures in th� groupi�g off th� circular roundabo�t wi�1 nat work as drawn. Dropoi£ ar�as should b� reserv�d out di th� main traffic stream. 7. P�incipal access to th� sit� is via a center �ircular area, forming the focal point oi the thre� structur�s. T fear th� traffic h�re wi�l be e�c�ssive, �nd in co�- ju��tion with th� �ropoff points for th� structures, will produce congestian. � 8. They propos� a glass curtain wall structural system. I suggest that panels oi other materials be arranged so as to create a vertical band, to emphasize the h�ight, We suggested tha� a°'glass cube" concept �ot be utilized without enhancement of some other mat�rial, • � �� • Planning Office Hours September 28, 1986 Page 5 They noted that comparable building projects include North- land Plaza (France and 494), Northwest Business Campus, Minnetc.�nka Corporate Center (west Bloomington), Opus PHP, Southgate, and Ryan's Development (west of Embassy Suites in Bloomington). These are all high quality developments, indicative of the type of development conforming to the City's policy for this r�development tax increment area. They propose to be back with revised plans for review prior to final submission. Craig Waldron reviewed the submissian schedule, suggesting that appearance before the December meeting of the Planning Commission might be timely, with Council review the second Monday in Decemb�r. 8. Northwestern College, 631-5251 Peter B�.�chles, in chargc of publie relations for Northwestern College, was in to r�view their propo�ed xesignage of their entrance sys�em at the Northc�estern Colleg�e campus. Th�y havc now nearly completed th� construction of the new entranc� aff Lydiap and propose to build a�� oE signs on wzought iron gates with brick pos�s an �ither sid�: of th� entrancc. I sugqested this would be appropriat�, but was eonc�rned about the wooden sign they propose to place next to it. I suggest�ci that this signage sriould be done mare in tt�e manncr that has been done at St. Ola€ and Carleto�n Colleges in Northfield. H�r� they use quality materials in th� form of low ground signs, c�mp�tibl� with th� structural mat�rials used on thc campus. � They propose to mov� �n �xisting wooden plywaod sign from �.he south�a�st corn�r og the c�ampus Cthe old ec�r�ss naw ^losed), to th� sou�hea�t corner of the campus, orien'ced toward Snell�,ng Av�enue's south baund traffic, I suggested h�ainc� s�ch a sign is ��apropriate� but tt�i� old "text�'�� 111" ply�dood �ign w�s reall� not ap�aropriate anei indica�ive of �h� s+�atu�� of their col le9e • �tr • euchles nQted �t3at h� had supported building a better �ign, �nd seemed r�rat�ful for S��e support, He will revi�w our discu�sion� with Dr. E�icks�n. t�e suggested that Dr. Erieks�n cou�� call us witt� any questions he had reg�rding th� signage� Thc ordinance allaws for a fifty foot sign for �his purpose. It apg�ears that fihe sc�le of th� signs proposed will fit wit�i.n ardinance requir�ments, and no rrariance will b� considered• Cane Sam�Canc ti�as in to revi�w th� possibili�.y af �eveloping town- l�osues on a narrow stri.p ot land on th� east sid� of the park north of sou�� Owasso Boul�vard, and �ast�rly �af �loodbridg�. This is property that was considered for inclusion in th� original. park acquisition, but was le£t out du� to the owner's r�qu�sted pric�. • � �� 'Plannin Office Hours g September 28, 1986 • Page 6 Access to this property is via a narrow strip of frontage on a hammerhead type cul-de-sac on the west end of Woodland. The property to the north is owned by an association that has maintained the property and kept it available for use by a group of neighbors over a period of time, going back to the late 'S0's. I suggested that developing the land with the street to the rear of �he existing lots, fronting on Woodbridge, would be destructive to the property and result in building the houses out in the swam�. Sam inquired as to a townhouse P.U.D. We suggested this would be inappropriate behind �hese single family houses with th� small outlet, noting too that his t�wnhouses done last in the City were disappointing� It appeared that the land coulcl be used �or a single building site, and realis�i- cally that might be as much d�vel,opment as should occur. In r�sponse to his qu�stion, I suggested that th� most appropriate u�e for the land �ou1d b� for a City park, as was originally proposed. He gave us a copy of an ad which advertis�� th� property for sal� by khe exi,sting owner. A copy af that ad is atta�ch�d. Its permitt�ci u�s� is far a singl� family house. A�king pric� for the seven acre site app�ars to b� �75,000. if the Ci�y is �v�r going fi�� n��r- ta�in purchasing the area, p�rhaps r�ow is th� appxopri�k� time. �nce it gats sQld to a d�v�loper, tt�cr� wil� Ii{kel�r be proposals for dev�loprnEnt» 10. Backes, 9"�4-?100 R�n 8ack�s, f�om �helarc] Developmcnt Compan�r� a►as �.n w,ith Hill Brisl�y, �rchirtect � to r�vie�a additionsi r�vised }a]�ans for �h� developm€�r�t o� �he tir. l�ous� Froper�y �a�t �� Ric� St�e�+�, sou�h of Tr�n�it Avenue. I suggested � revisi+�n �o the p�rkinc� l�yaut, ��k�r�g �h� g�rkir�g away from �he front �� thQ stru�ct�re, �llowing fo� l�att�r visibility �nsi a��far frontage more t�rpical of good si�o�ping c�nter d�sign. �°his prov�de� for gr��te� space fo� the ��ar, and m�a��ar layou� for the center as �a whale, as i�. relates to th� St�ichen's stor� to the s�uth. Th3.s looks like a goed propos�l. 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Backes, 974-7100 Ron Backes, of Shelard Development Company, was in with Bill Brisley, of "360 Architects", to review some preliminary design alternatives for the property they have purchased from Dr. House, south of Transit, east of Rice Street. Their objective is to put in approximately 22,000 square feet maximum of small retail shops, with a convenience store with gas as the probable anchor. They are talking to, and working with, the Steichen's store to the south of their site. They are working on joint access anc� egresse We suggesteci they move the center further east so as to provide more room to the private driveway proposed between Transit and B-2, which � is now platted as an ou�lot and a part of the original P.U.D. approved for this site. They are going �o consider these suggestions, and be bac}� with r�vi.sed plans. 2. Olein, 484-9i84 Hill Olein (Roseville's Ice Arena Manager) owns two hauses at the northwest corn�r of Dale and Txansit. These hauses are on a 91.12 x 145 foot lot. He is fnquiring as to the pa�ssibility ot dividing th� lot so as to allow the homes t�o be sold separately. The problem here is that a land division would trigg�r a ten foot dedication on Dale Street, and approximately a thi�te�n and one-h�lf foot d�dication on the narth �ide of Transit. This reduces the lot size to the poirit where each o,t two lot5 would be extremely small. It's also likely that a portion of the southerly most house would be occupying part� of the proposed righ�-of-way dedication. It appears, too, that the c�arage on the east side of the property would wind up within the ten foot dedicated strip for Dale Str��et. We suggested that perhaps the two units should be sald on the single lot as they now exist, so as to not trigge� these requi�e� d�di- cations at this time. Both homes are old, and the long-rang�e future may include � tearing dowr� the two houses, and perhaps buildi.ng a new duplex. We talked about the possibility of duplex zon�.ng on such a lot, which may be appropriate in view of its location ��:. on Dale Street. . Planning Office Hours September 17, 1986 � Pa e 2 9 • 3. Cam bell 484-4638 Carol and Tom Campbell live at 976 Transit, on the south side opposite Chatsworth Street. On September 9, 1985, the City Council approved a minor variance for an addition to their residence to accommodate a garage expansion from one car ta two car. The conditions under which the minor variance was gr.anted remain the same, although the construction has not yet begun. They were unaware that the variance permit expired after six months. 4. Thompson, 332-1234 Milo Thompson, Architect, was in with one of his staff (John Akiba) and Jim Johnston, representing thf� developer of the Rosegointe project on Hamline Avenue. We discussed a pre- liminary plat f4r wh�ch they are applying, which divides the property into three parcels; Ph�se 1, �rtase 2, and propex�y to be dedicated to the City for ��,rk purpos�s (the pond to the north). Phase 1 will include most of the new structures, anc3 landscaping for th� bulk of the site. Phase 2 wiZl include the remodeling of the older structure and the connecting link. This staging of development can best be handl�d as a Plann�d Unit Developm�nt, fileci in conjunction with the � preliminary plat. There is also some question as to the exact boundaries on the west side of the site whQre the praperty is contiguous to the �ity's public park. Ther�: may be a'�no man's land" in thi� area not coWered by the legal description in the de�d £rom Carboni ta the Rosepointe Corporation, They will be pursuin� settlement �f this westerly boundary �perhaps thrvugh court ac�ion). 5. K�ersten, 37�-1770 Loren. Kjersten, representing Comm�rs-Klodt, was in to discuss a progasal, for a ground sign at the northeast corner of Patton Road anci County Road Co The sigr� would be 3' x 10', mounted on � sloped pedestal. The prcabl.em is that due to the existenc� of a poncYxng area at this northeast corner, the sign would have to be placed clos�r to the riqht�of-way tha� the forty feet x�c�uired. Being a low ground sign, i felt that this would an appro- priate solution. I suc�gested they determine precisely the ponding location rel�vant to �he proposed sign, and prepare the appropriate drawings and application for variance. 6. Kra�kr 339-4200 Ron Kran}c called from the airport the morning of September � 17, asking if he could bXing a couple of interesteci investors from Omaha and Detroit. One is a developer, and the other is a major re�ailer, and are a.nterested in a Roseville location. � Planning Office H � urs September 17, 1986 � J�y Lerner, from Omaha, and Don Dayne, out of with us at City Hall for about fifteen minutes. the basic l.and use pattern, potential and other Ftoseville growth, pointing out Roseville's assets, and welcomed them to Roseville. Page 3 Detroit� met We went over elements of dis�inctive Dave Janisch continued meeting with them regarding City services and development policies. 7. Schweizer, 483-5154 A1 Schweizer rents a house at 2834 Virginia, and has been running a vending machine distribution business out of the gar�ge. Gordie Beseth, Building Inspector, recei.ved a complaint from a neighbor, and thus informed Mr. Schweizer that his operatic�n was noti a home occupation, atld wauld hav� to cease. He agparently dispens�s pop only in his machines, and therefor.� gets a dzlivery �wice a weel� f rom the Coke out of Eagan, and transfers this people noted that this couldn't accur on h�s to his 3/4 �on van. We arrange for iti to occur on some potherty� but he could property, properly zoned � He believes it is his contiguous neighbor suggested he mee� with his ne.i.ghbor, difficulties, but that pop, in any case, loadzd on his property, who complained. I and iron out their cannot be stored or 8. Hunt 633-3201 Jim Hun� owns H�xnt Truck Lines, operating out ot 2711 Fair�iew. He was in with Jim Morris from the Lawrence Sign Com�any, regarding a proposed const.racted pylon sign �n his frontage on the west side of Fairview. We informed him of the sign requirements, noting through the use of air photas possible locations for his sign. I suggested that a variance, under his circumstances, would not be appropriate. The sign size can be 100 squarE feet, 25 feet high. His proposed sign is an oval, 8 feet by �2 feet (averall), and thus substantially under the 100 squ�re foot maximum. 9. Matthews, 481-9061 Mark Matthews wa$ in with C. and Bill Leverman from Short, review their proposal for addition ot parking on the site, rented by Group W Cab1e J. Lilly (landscape architect) Elliott, and Hendrickson, to a Special Us� Permit for the east side of the Owasso School TV. � They presented a rather attractive landscape plan to screen the proposed parking east of the parking area, w�st of the contiguous hom� sites fronting on Victoria. � ; . � � Planning Office Hours September 17, 1986 � � � Page 4 Bill noted that allowing the drainage from the lot to f low across the lawn to the drainage facility west of Victoria would be far less e�pensive and would, perhaps, be more eftective in filtering the effluent befor� it entered Lake Owasso. Mr, Honchell and Mr. Janisch reviewed the proposals, suggesting they prepare more detailed calculations and eleva- tions to demonstrate the flowage by this method. Mr. Matthews noted tha� money saved in r3rair�age could expand the investment in landscaping. The revised designs will be prepared in conjunction with their �pplicati.on for a Special Use Permit for the parking expansion. N O � � «� 2 «I �1lO rn � � � c�¢'r�_ u � S- — �• A a � i' ` • •�: �P i : � : •� � �r O 9 a� .•o B J . _ �g � �. n. -e-, � : .� C � y. 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K... ( � � r � . , ; � � � = ii •� � ` ri 'I � � ... - � � ^ �•� _ _ tttl{tT[P REVISED OATS a� �� ;n : � � � ,� o�c�o��o�r-�ra� �� z•r-ss � .--------,.—,�-,r—.,—•.---,.—�r—•� 4 �2n-n ux � ; � � ( -i� �2 � l� �I �4 s� �5 �wi �6 '� (7 X� 1� � 19 �I �O �I �� 2_ � 6t� � �� ► , ._,..,, �.. . ♦ � September 18, 1986 TO: FROM: SUBJ�CT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, SEPTEMBER 10, 1986 1• Rntinozzi, 633-3415 Dorothy Antinozzi was in with her daught�r, Dolor�s, Co discuss the possible sale and d�velopm�nt oE their l�fld locat�d north of County Road C-2, imm�digt��Y w�8t Q� the R. �. �ohnson warehouse. Th�ir propQrty is part of � strip of single family lots loc�at�d soutt� of Garley's Apar�m�n�g, $n� fronting Qx� thQ north sid� of Counky Roadl C-2* At ��i� request, this land i� n�w �hown on our Compr�hensiv� ple� �� high d�nR3ity+ multi-family housinq. ThQ lan��wne�s fr�m �as�� o w@st �� e�$�ric� 1�ntino�ai. lanother daugMker), D�rothy Antinozz�, 8u�rge� ��ormcrly Dr. .T�cksor�'s hau��, ��q�,� D�pR��', anci �h� l�st mne on the west sid� is ownad by Ga�l��. Sh� inquir�d as �o whe�h�r or nat an o��ice b�i�di�g would b� �PPxoAriat� on their s3,te. i suggested that if all th� n�ighbars ac�r�ed th�t off�,c+� u�� was reaso�able, �h$t it might be po��ib�e. our ,int�nt is to ta� faix �0 811 tt�Q�Q neighlbors with whom we have �gr��a in the past, that ChQ ��n� �ould be ul�,ima�e�y devoloped for high der�si� h f y ous n� . Th��r note tha� Mr. Bu�rgen wa�uld lik� t�o buy th�ir graperty� He insist� ho sim�ly ��a�nts to live there. Th�y are talk �t4 the rest of the�.r n�ir�h�9r� r�gar�ir�g th� ult,imat� land us�. we �ar� aware that �h� '�3.Yliam� BrothErs p�opo�e to s�l�. the o��n spac� south �f Cou�ty Roaei C-2, �hiGh is � p�rt of their �mnk €arm praperty. Thi� land is indicat�d as ir�dtastrial or� the Compreh�nsive P1an. Thus, offlc� buil.dings Qca tho r�orth sidE could be a��asonabl� land u�a� if app��,�d c�nsis��nt�,�r to a�l the properti�s. 2. Reilly Tire Companv 370-0700 Harold Sk��lbastad, of BRW, was ir� to r�view Reil�.y Tire Company's praposal �o expand th�ir facilities on the w�st � side Q� Fairview. �"his is th� old Thexmo-King maintenance facility �rapert�. r Planning Office Hours September 10, 1986 � Page 2 � Craig Waldron and Bruce Ryden were out to see the Reilly Tire Company's retreading ��process at Savage. This process is known as the Bandag process. It apparently features a chipping process, rather than the grinding that used to occur in retreading tires. Mr. Waldron reports that the process is not nois�y or smokey, and apparently not an environmental problem. It appears, however, tha� depending on how the ventilation is handled, �here could be au�oi�hePrObentilating the property. We suggested thGy P and therefore equipm�nt (the fan) inside the k�uilding, mitigate .. � noise problem that exists at Savage. They proposc to expand the building, and pu� the storage which is now outsicie t�omc of it in s�mi vans) inside the building. Re,illy Tire Company has b��n in th� buildinq �or approxi.mately kwoiy�ear5Theirhhead�qu�rters1isi�in�nMuscatin�, Iowa, and Illino Iowa, T�e r�tre�d tires are used only for the t�ucking industry, and r�ot fo� automabiles. ��hus�wouldn�equirnS�Spe��ial�Use th€ industria�l �li�t�i�t, � Per�ni�. w� �evi�wed t�� iti�ating �ny s un�l�$pc3sce�tibl� str�ssed th� impt�rt�nca o 9 be�ond thc property line. � 3. S�ut�enbe�r 48a-94AA C��1 $tub�ni�r� 1 ves a� 2323 North Vi�+�o��a, ar�tl prop�sts t• plat � n�w l�t a� t�� outhwe�� cc�rnczr of v��to�ri� an�d Lc�vell. A, par+� oE th� l�ntl cant�ir�s a hcm� w�ich �xtcsnds i�►�o thQ ric�h�-aE=w�� which �ri�ll ultim��t*iy k� ne�d�d for i.c�v�l� A�I�a'11a4. Ed� �C,�CClG�C� C�PI�t C�CS�,�C�t�Ot1 O� `'�1,�& C��1�'O�"id&�/ WOl,tlt� � i��i1��.� �t ehi� p�ain+t, becau�� he h�m� occupi�� part� �� th� right-o�-��y. �#o��ver, 4�0 �+oul� re��ire ,� ten �oo� d�ciic�+�ion �n ��c�oria, on th� ��t �icDe �f +thig lot. 4. �t�tra�olit�n Rc��ov�r Co�p._� 8�1-2i7� A��xo�cn�A� ve f�om thQ �tetr��ol�an ��ouery Car�or��.c�n w�� , a�c�r�g with ehc nowl�+ c��n��Q� P�ta�'�i�l op�r�to�r o� �h� 1�Q�ropallta�n Recaver�► faci�.i�� prQpo��cl a�nd ap�ro�r�d �n Rn��evil��. Th�� rev�.ewod wi�h +�� h� Pr�gre�s� o� th�e�r s�piica�tion t�hrouc�h t�� S�a�.�, no�inc� +�h�� Ein�l appro�ral wa� �xp�c��d w��►in sev�r�l montMs. The�r in�u�.red re�g�rdinc� �he possib�li�� of s�.�rtinc� construction priar ta �ha final per� m��. we �►o�ed that �ur cons!tructian procadure� a�low fo� fo�unc�akiara pcxmits, but wo�ld h�v� tio i�e �xce�deri b�► � r�vi�w c�� th� ��te pl�n �and preliminary �rch�te�tur�l da-��ings for �h� s�xu�t�ure. DeF��nding upora �xact wor�ding o� �,�� p��.t, we may or m�y not b�� ble to i��ue a�oundation permit pr:�or t�a iinal ap�x�va1 5;r- the St��: � In �he ��nti��e��tior��for�taking of �idsecdandtwill�lmonit r plan� and p�epar th� timing of th� permit from th� PCA• Off ice Planning Hours September 10, 1986 Miller, 835-0060 Cindy Miller and Weldon O. Hendrickson, representing Hampton Inns people, were in to review a possible location Roseville. They propose 120 units in two stories. They a franchise of the Holiday Inn, and have a site now Plymouth. We reviewed, with considerable detail, the merits of the Ruan site at the southeast corner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. We showed them previous development plans prepared by Dillon Inn, noting the desirability of the site for a motel and a restaurant. They are going to look seriously at this site, plus other �ossibi�.�ties in the area. They are �nterested in coming to Roseville. Thompson, 635-1816 Mike Thompson, r�gresenting Jim Reilly of the Condor Corpora- tion, was in to review cl�velopment potential in Roseville. ,Jim I��il.ly has d�v�eloped a consider�ble number of multi- family housing units anti other dev�lopm�cnt in the Me�ropoli- tan Area. H� is looking for developm�nt potential in �tasev i l le . �raig �►aldron and i r�viewed wit� him the cyualiti�s and a�tributes af thc Tax Tncrem�nt Distri,ct on the w�st �icie of 35w. �hey nre going �o �ook at th�sa sit�s, a�ci other� �e sugge�ter�, for in�en�iv� comme�ci�� development. W� ��vi�wQc! �he Council's policios relating eo the target�d Ta�c inc��m�nt area�. DrQesen 636-6906 J m Dr�eesen was in fram R�•�le�� Truck Campan�°, r�qu�sting pflrm�.ssion �o cor�struct ��i�n, oriQnte�l C�wa�d 35w, an �ho �a�t �nd of thai�r proper��. ��'he proposed sigra woulc� bc� 35' x b" 4-�./2'" � �hi� produccs a si�c� ar�a of 220.5 sc�ua�re �Qot, r�orc th�� tl�at whicM is allowed an their propErty �hi�t� fronts only �n Goc�g L�k� Rc��d. �� problem here �s that the area� of land fron��ng on t�€ servic� road �+Q�t o� 35w, ��t of their �it�, �s o�rned �y ttre Johnson F1ori�t peo�le, Thus, tha Ryd�� Truck �ite is no+� contic�a�ous �o the freeway, ��nd c�oes r��t qualif�r for � fr�eway f�or�tage sign. I su�ge��d it is importan� for th�ir lo�n�-r�nq� invostment �o �cquiacc that p�operty, s� t�hat thci� la�nd �nes cor►�it�uou� frQm Gong Gake �toad to the �re�wa� front�gc road. They no�ed they� hav� m�de �he attc�mpt, but �'eel tha� th� lat�d is too costl�. I suggest�d that it wora`� gek cheaper, and �,hey t:�e p��eg��ty inasmt��h �� their land ultimatel� r�d�:v�:lop��i for more int�nsive use. Th�y a��e� araci note that their location isn't r�ally th� shouldi buy should b� with this, best. � Planning Office Hours September 10, 1986 • Page 4 � We encouraged them to consider relocating in coordination with C�ty efforts to redevelop the land. I noted if they acquirev the land, they would have the right to put up the sign they propose, which is within the area limitations for freeway frontage property. 8. ScY�reiber, 48�-6747 Alb�rt Schr�iber was in to discuss the adding of a two car garage to his parking and garage complex on the ed�t side of his two apartment building developments on Lexington Avenue. Thc:se units were built sevente�n y�ars ago, and consist of two, eleven unit buildings. Mr. S�hreiber never has a vacan�cy, and does keep his apartments and grounds in immaculate condition. A var.tance was previously issued for tk�e side yard s�tback for the� garages on this prap�rt�; thus, the twa garages e�n be add��d as propos�d. 9. Lund, 63].-9113 C�iff Lund was in �o �iscras� prac�ssir�c� oE $��U.D. to provide for �. t4�r�nty� fao� ca�ement acce�s �tri� t� � pi��o of pro��xt� 1�0' x 168" at t�.h� snuth�ast �ox,n�r oE the property �a�t of Fairview, south o� the first lot at thQ soutt��st corn�� f fi�rrm�c� Drivc and Fairviow. '�he�► aisi� � to separa�.e t�is par�el� �ram �h� propert� �c� t�� north, which they �xopasc to sell. i su+�gested that sUch a lat would 1� ci�f f icult to se�v�, and should b� a�cled te ti�� p�opert� t� tha� e��t, l�o note�d thc�y are u�wi�,l�ng �4 buy at tl�e right pri��. I sug�e�ted thi� i� ��v�te ma�tQ� b+�tw�en tha �andowner� � �u� the c�ea�3.on of g s+�pag�tQ lot via a�eng+�h� ��sement i� no� ar� appropri�tc �olutior�. 1�. Dotezs �64-A969 v ncont Dc:��rs li.do� ae� 9�� ►a�ve�l AvQn�o, and �raposQs �o ad� � 20' x�A' gara�� to hi� exi�tinc� r�sirl�n�e an thQ �or�th sid� �E �ca��ll, ��storl�r of C�at��carth, �'his would r�c�ulr� � v��ian�:c �►hic1� �an lb� �roGQ��Qd as a m�nor �r�r�p a�c�. we ��vie��►�e�l procedui�Q� �nd rae�ui��mQnts. Thc� v�riancc� propa�s�d a�paar� reaso�a�l�,� i�a ��r�bC I�I��1 �ed t�eyer i� an atto�ncy with O�pcnh�inner, �nc3 is e a:epresentat�ve of �lhe St. Michael's Lu;t�er�n Chuxch, l�cat9d souch ef Coun�y Roa�d B, wcst o�f Fry St�eo�. 'Thc�y h�ave � v�ery lare�� aPen ��a�� on t�h� �asterra anci nor�herl� �a�t of the�.r siee, �ith tk�e p�incip�l churcl� structuxc in the n��west Qar� of thE� site � �nd � larct� parking area �o �t�� soutY�. Hc inquir�d as to thc poss�.hi.lity of d��elo�aing a; portion 4f � the prog�rty, p�rh�ps fo�r som�@ form oi S�nior �Citi��n's housing. We sugg�st.�d �hat prop�rly dc�n�, this could b� possible, inasmuch as th� la�nd to the �ast is zan�d B-1. • � � Plann' � ing Office Hours • September 10, 1986 Page 5 We noted the limitat.ion of the development due to the need for parking. W� stressed an imaginative design, with sub- stantial setback froni Gounty Road B, so as to maintain the aesthetic quality in t�� are,a. All the land is now uf,E 'chc tax roles, and portions of the land might be brougrnt back with an intelligent and imaginative design. Th�y are Fossibilities in consultaltion with aniarchi�ec�,�anddeelderle car� specialist. y �2. Moses. 920-5505 Terry MASCS dropped by tc� inquir� as to redevelopm�nt of residen�ial properties easte�lybogipaV�lion Plac�e Shopp�.ng Cent�r. I i1oted my concerns relariv� to the traffic impact on the n�igh��orhood to th� northw�st, and th� Gouncil°s policy r�gardinc� the necessi��r far an "'ove�- w��lm�n9 ma3ority�� of �ing1€: family 1anc�own�rs invalved in �h� �conversion of �ingle f�mi�y arcas to busin�ss use. w� su�ges�ted a�ny significa►nt dev�lApm�nt with mccesg off Aakcr�st would !�� a �raffic u��rs. H� noeed tk�at some o£�the�la�nd w�ers areg�nx family mo�r�, ��. is doubt�u3► without su]bstantia� subs�idy, wh�ther or not the e�c�nomjcs of the convQrsion in this ar�a is possi}�lc at �hi� titn�. 13. E��k�dt �33-9519 h�ah�mcd Elakkaci �eside�� at �336 Count R�Bd 8, �r��oscss �o �dd eer, ��et �ta h�� Y M�. E�$kkad v�ri�a�c�. �h�,s $ gara+9�, rer�uiri�e� a mino� tl�e pi�,n �� h�s home��r�� he$�oc�ti�n�of�the� in view �� the �i�� structure on �� n�ted thae appra�ral fr�m n�ic�hbQ,rs �on either sid� a� his la� w�uld 1�� requi�ed fc�r pr�c��es�in�7 as � minor va�i�ryccs. �4. Reinh�ar� �93-15�7 Rab��t Re,nhaat Iiv�s �t 5�5 He:inel Arive, and ro Q, �dd Q,ic�ht ��e�t tca the ��•�nt �f his hc,u��, which is curz�ntlo loc�ted a0Q iee� �r�m the �ha�elinc. The pra�osed a�dcl��ioY �n� �x?i��n�' str�uctur� conform� to all �horelin� zo��n� �'�grui��n�en��: thus, �h� d�v�logm�tnt ��opQsal can b� pro�e�seci ro�a�in�� di��ta�, ta �hc Council. 15. �C�e��nra� 635-Q390 F'1oy►d Che��t�ut and Stev� Saundexs �a�r�� in ka cli�cuss the po�sibl�� c�ev�l�pm�nt 4� the propert�► north o� th� McDca,��d ��,;.�e, ��d r�mo�ing the e�;i,sting restaurant and building a n�w K�ntucbcy Frieei �h��}c�n oiltl�t. T ex�ar�ss�d my �conc�xns againP r�g�irc��.a�c� th� Ultimate d�'��1oPm�nt of th� vac�n� land ta the �,rest, which is iancl- locked by the �1cUonald's sit� and the pr�operty to the nortt� bath own�d by� the sam� person. r , � � Planning Office Hours September 10, 1986 Page 6 � I su est�c� 1g that further landlocking of this valuable property is not in the interests of the owner or the City. It appears that because of th� arrangem�nts for a buyback with McDonald's, that the owner doesn't care to deve�.op or sell the vacant land a� this time. I suggested some meaningful. pian for access and use should be considered �rior to red�velopment of any portion ot the land. r� �..�.J �� +` ,,. , 01 4 � 5: =� 6-�� =� ' 7 �� ' .8 '� � =� �� ~� ' 12 �� 13 p� 14 � 15 �� 16 r� 17 4� IS %� 19 «� 20 Y� ` ` .. �' yl Z N ,� p � � � . _ �./ 'J' I . � . w� � � � _�� ' /, i L� � .� � v�'-'L+aJ��/ t'+q'E _ ?� -- -----�___ " �' _� �- _ • I'� � �� ! c � wwr - � a ce. 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She proposes to sell her house and put an addition on her f ather's house, so that she and her four sons can move into her father's home and care for him in his elderly years. Her father's house is one story, with a two car attached garage. The addition wauld be built in the corner of an L, in the L- shaped footprint, oriented toward the lake. It would slightly decr�.ase the distance from the lake, but would be in line � with the front of the existing house. There may be a second fl�or on this portion of the addition, plus over the garage to add the appropriate number of bedrooms. I suggested that this would likely be a very exp�nsive addition, and that there might be some more economical method of solving their joint housing problem. He is going to look at the approximate cost and review it with Ms. Farr. It appeared, from the standpoint of a shoreline zoning approval, that the physical configuration addition would not be a prob].em . 2. Hawkins, 545-0405 Greg Hawkins, reprsenting Merrill Lynch, Raseville office, was in to review a possible addition to and conversion of the old "Gold Gym" building on County Road B to Merrill Lynch's Roseville headquarters. He presented a plan indicati�.g the way in which 1,980 square feet could be added to the 1,080 square feet that exists, �roviding a total of 12,060 square feet. This would require sixty parking sp��ces. It is physically possible to put sixty spaces on the site though, according to Mr. Hawkins, the realtor's use of the building would not require such space. We suggested they analyze their existing affices and do research regarding thei.r actual parking needs. We suggested S that based on an accommodation of sixty spaces on the site, a building �ermit could be issued for the expar�sion. In the interest of saving more grass area, a variance could then be processed, if their research proves that less than sixty spaces are required. _, � f Planning Office Hours September 3, 1986 Page 2 � They have other offices in the Metropolitan Area. Research in these offices might also be helpful in determining the real needs for their parking accommodation. � � 3. Kovarik, 484-3412 Lawrence (Bud) Kovarik was in to discuss his desire to retain his thirty foot wide driveway for his residence on Iona Lane between Matilda and Galtier. Mr.. Honchell nated that the maxi.num width is twenty-two feet, and that in the process of redoing the street the curb cut would be reduced to that dimension. We reviewed, with him, possible ways in which tY�e reduction could be made and still provide access to his double garage plus the parking space he has paved contiguous to ha.s garag� on the east sicl.e. He i.s going to look at the suggestions on the site, and see if he can work out a solution. Mr. Honchell noted that they can place the twenty-two fe�t wherever he likes, in a manner so it best serves hi� intere�t. 4. Michaels, 633-1911 Jim Michaels was in to review the possibility of his acquiring prop�rties to the east side of Dale Street, southexly of Transit, where an extension of a cul-de-sac, similar ta that which was done on Transit Avenue, could develop a double row of lots from Dale Street to the school property on the east. He has talked ta the owners, and apparently three owners in �he southeasterly portion o£ the land affec�ed are opposed. Mr. Honchell reviewed with him procedures and regulations regarding a feasibil.ity study to consider the possibility of the City coz�structing the cul-de-sac with or without condem- nation, as may be necessary. We reviewed other �laces in the City where this had been done, and the circumstances th�reto (some of which were done by Michaels). We explored ways in which the disinterested property owners might be left out, though this would prove to be difficult in this case. 5. Pinola, 483-3627 �ohn Pinola lives at 2976 Victoria (east of Victoria, k�etween Millwood and Brenner), and proposes to put a twe].ve foot by twenty-two foot addition on the back of h:i.s existing free- standing garage. The existii�g garage is eight��en inches from his north property line in a five foot setback area. I�e wauld thus require a minar variance to add to th� existing nonconforming structure. Mr. Honchell also suggested that he ap�ly for a two foot set-back �or his existing driveway, which is required normally ta pe five feet from ris north property line. It appears t;�is propos�l is logical. Mr. Pinola notes that his ��ontiguous neighbor to the north does not object. 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H:4 - C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:IQ B,E,J:7 K-L:15 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-I4,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:I2 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-6:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 R:1-7,12-16 I:i8 E:11 K:16 C-C:16 C,I-1_:11 E-N:11 L:19 L:I2,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Ev�lyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Fa�rington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk Si. Fry St. Fu7ham St. Gaitier Circle 6alti2r St. Garden Rve. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotta St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcresi Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Aae. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Rve. ',4,I1,I3 E-F L.12 I�5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J : 6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H;L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J : 2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 �,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:16 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:11,12 C:lU-23,18 I:Z2 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,0:13 T ;ir-2a H:3,�,12 A-L:12 I;L:12 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Loveil Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lyd�ia Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Matiida St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S. McCarrons St. Midland Grovp Rd. Midland Hills Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mid Oaks Lane & Mildred �r. Millwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. Minre.sota Ave. Moundsview Ave. Mount Ridge Rd. Nancy P1ace Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Nighway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. S Owasso Blvd. W Or.ford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Rosedaie Dr. Roselawn Ave. Roseallood La. N Ruggles St. Russell Et. r� & &S � - A:17,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,B:1,6-14 A:1 A-B:14 C D,J,L:17 B:1 B:1,7,8,20 B-19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,1:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,B:6 8:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 6,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-R:15-16. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-S:� K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:il-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:li J:3 J.2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 B:8 Kyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive� Sandy Hoak Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Rve. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Sneiling Ave. Snel7ing Curv2 Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Summer St. Talisman C�rve Tatum St. ierminal Road Terrace Dr. TophiTl Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. 41esi Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Whee7er Ave. Wheeier St. Wilder St. William St. Willow Circle W.illow Lane Woodbridge Circ7e Woodbridge Court Woadbridge St. Woodhi 11 ►�ri ve Wood7ynn Drive Wo�druff Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:3 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 N:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:l-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:l-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-I4,17-18 A:9-I0,13,14,I9,20 K:I8 � � �/ LJ September 11 1986� , TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren � SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOrJRS, AUGUST 27, 1986 1. Palmataer, 645-0223 Rick Palmataer was in with ,7ohn Mojsiej, from State Farm Insuranc�e Company, to discuss groposed directional signs tor their site at the east quadrant of Snel�ing and Highway 36. They have propo�ed a s�ries o� signs, which included "ST4P" signs and a 36°' x 24" pane3. designating Visitor and Employee Entrances. The S�OP signs were for internal traftic leavi�g the site onto public street�. We not�d that th� STOP signs were permissible, and that the dir�ecti�r�al signs, a.f reduced to 36" x 18" would not require a vari�ance. The sagns are mounted on two posts at the ends of the signs rather than one �ost in the middle. We noted that this is permissible. Therefore, w� vuggested that they simpl� reduce the siz� of the directional sign to that allowed in the ordi.z�ance ( 36" x 18" ), and procPec� without a variance. 2. Salzl, 339-6122 Jim Salzl� Development Coardinator on the Villa Park project being done by the Housing Alliance, was in �o review their current planning and discussions with contiguous neighbor� regard�.ng landscaping on primarily tl�e east sicie of the project. The contiguous owners are Mueller (near the south- east corner of the site), ar�d Zechbauer, who owns about three-quarters of the land c��n�iguou� to the east side of the site, H� noted that Mueller want�d a fence, which they propos�e to pro�ide (boazri on board) on the property line, plus planting similar to that which was originally propos�d and approved by the Council. Mueller wants a tree removed that overlap� on his site. We suggested this mature tree not be remnved, in� asmuch as it softens the building to the southeast in general. S�lz1 said that Zechbauer w�nted a six faot high chain link fence. He is apparently concerned abaut intr�tsion into his property. From a Senior Citizen site, this seemed rather unlik�ly to us. We suggesteel he try to negotiate a four foot fence with Mr. Z�echbauer, which would appear much less industrial. In any case, that portion of the fence within thirty feet of County Road B eannot be more than fo�ar feet high (within the front yard). Mro Salzl will continue to work with these two parties and get back to the City with final results. We noted we prefer to have the agreement directly between the property owners and develop�r with final review by the City (within reason- able parameters). � � n L_J Planning Office Hours August 27, 1986 • Page 2 3. Hackworthy C. R. Hackworthy, builder, and Bob Murray from the Butler Company, realtor, were in to review a proposal to develop a 9,000 square foot building on the south side of County Road C, contiguous to the west border of the City. The proposed building is 9,000 square feet, with two floors, requiring forty-five parking spaces. They are planning to keep it a total of sixty-four, allowing for expansion. We suggested a revision to the plan that would put the building on line with the office building to the west (in St. Anthoni), and to the east. They will have provisions for an easement through the site in the event it is necessary to develop the land to the south, which is part of a larger parcel with frontage on walnut Street. This proposal would come to the Planning Commission and Council in the form of a land division. 4. Franke, 636-6400 Bill Franke was in with Tom Smouffer, Comptroller, ar�d Tim Nelson from Jeff Nielsen's Development Company, to talk about a contemplated redevelopment of the southeast carner of Highway 36 and Hamline Avenue, replacing the Wilbert-Chandler Vault Company structure and several hQuses to the south. The proposal is to construct two office buildings, the northerly one of which would be ten stories, and the s�utherly one three stories. The ten story structure would h�ve the gross square footage of 138,740 and the three story would have 50,000 square feet. Parking would be on the surface witb. a green buffer strip to the east, contiguous to the rear lot lines of single family houses to the east of the site. Some of these lots are 300 f�et deep and greater� We suggested one possibility of acquiring porkions of these 1ots, so as to provide a wider buffer strip. Once the land in question is d�veloped, the further development of the 300 foot deep lots would be difficult, if not imposs;lble. They note that five of the eight home owners are willing to sell, and are talking to the others. We noted the City's policy where residences are redeveloped t�at there be an "overwhelming majority" of the residents in favor. I suggested that the replacement of the vault factory with an office building is desirable, but that the ten story height might prove a problem to contiguous landowners. Perhaps a more serious concern is the absorption of the office space market in relationship to other committed tax district projects, particularly those west of 35W. Their financial program proposed a fifteen year bond with three years of capitalized interest, with a bond sale this year at approximately 10.5 percent (taxable). Gross bond sales would approximate $2,3 million. • � � Office Plannin Hours 5 August 27, 1986 • Page 3 Bill Franke noted that the deal includes relocation of the burial vault factory, and that the economics of this necessi- tated a subsidy proposed. Costs of replacement of the vault plant is estimated at $1.5 to $1.75 million. Craig Waldron noted the City's current tax increment policy utilizing direct increment payments (after the increments appeared) without a bond sale and its attendant costs. We noted our concern regarding the proposed "glass block" structure, suggesting that a"softer" material might be more compatible with the site, similar to materials utilized in the State Farm insurance building, Dayton's Home Store, �he library structure, etc. No commitments were made, but they were gaing to explore the project further, keeping in mind the results of our meeting. 5. Vanassee 631-1711 Leonard Vanasse was proposal to build Freight Line property James F. Held Le;onard Vanasse Bill Elsholtz Howard Moore Bob Elsholtz in with a h st of others involved in a a Price Savers store on the Twin City west of 35W. Those attending included: John Lamb Dave Peterson Charles Honchell R. Greg Goins Their proposal is to construct a 107,000 square foot store wit� 750 parking stalls. The structure would be steel frame wi�h an all brick exterior. The selling format, they noted, is similar to Costco, with wholesale sales ta businesses and card carrying members of groups. They noted that the bill- board on the site has a lease �hat runs untYl 199a. We noted that it is nonconforming, and would require a variance to develop the site, yet keeping the nonconforming sign. Mr. Honchel� noted a sidewalk would have to be added on th� east side o� the structure, as well as on the west side. They noted the roof would s�ope ane way from east �o w�st, with a parapet var�ing in height from zero to four fe�t. We expressed concern regarding the location of the mechani�aZ equipment on the roof. They noted the strip of land to the south, through which the Amoco Pipeline passes, is considerably higher than the remainder of the site. They propose a precast panel retaining wal�, and a separate driv�way to this area to be used for employee parking. They have not completed their topographical survey, so the exact imp�c� of this elevati�n difference is difficult to discern, thought it certainly represents a deleterious imp�ct for a consumer related facility (retail store). 0 ' Planning Of f ice Ho � August 27, 1986 • \J Page 4 The NSP transmission line easement was noted hundred feet in width. They also noted there w t� be one to seventy employees on the site, ould be fi�ty to one hundred and fift for a total of one hundred for six trucks, y' There would be six loading bays We eXP�'essed our concern regarding previousl na of the site plan, including the buildin y ted el�ments (truck loading at the fror,t g being reversed past the building to the front�he narrow, difficult both sides or one s�,�e �24 feet wide with passage doors oper�in �� the location of the tire storenwith � directly to th� north/south main access across the front of the buildin �n conflic� with Cit g� th� 1ow intens,ity use of the land billboard, the isolat�dVe�levatedplai�y' retention o� the site, and three driveways onto Lon nd on portions of the 9 Lake Road. Mr. Y�abacke i�d previously noted th�t he can mone 9et his earnest aP�ears how��ver,he proposal is rej��ted by the City. �t decisian through thetcourtsey may elect to process a negative 6. Hunn. 64S-2707 RoY Hunr, pwns an older hous� on a � southerly df Ros�l�wn lat east af Ha.m],ine, fronts on �ugqZ�s. � and an adjoininq lot tfl the �ast which the two �ots He Pr°p°S�s to move �h� lot lin� iq@�,w��,� ��i��n . so as to provid� f�r an addition �f a� ;��i��, 9� paol on th�: hous� fronting on Rugg�,cs. �h� s�i£�ing of th� lot lin� would r�c�u�c� t setback to th� �o1d house to less than thirt h� ��ar �o remov� th� old hous� in a short Y f�@t� Yard accomplished b tim�. T'hisT��snplbe Y a minor variance anci an administrative shifting of th� lot line. 7• �tilliam� 636-900p Sheryl Will a�ms was .�n to discuss th� os a duplex on a o�� hundr�d foot P S�'�1� $��Fment of easterly of Cleveland. lot north a�' Eldridge, duplex zoning, S� W� nOt�d the City�s �olicy regardin and revi�w it wigh�immediate�neiehborParQ a proc�ss�n g � Preliminary��alan ��t a rezoning request. Prior ta consideri�ng The lot is one h�tndred feet and nat a corner 10 fift�en feet wider than the typi,��l interior 1 t' �nd thus is e�ghtY-tive feet, ot standard of 8• Hawkins S45-0405 Ray Hawkins was in to revieua the the "Gold Gym�� building north of Countbility of expansion of � of �'airview Avenue. The existing structure a and easterly parking, and sixty spaces would be needed t-o req�ires fifty proposed expansion, provide for the � Planning Office Hour s August 27, 1986 • Page 5 The parking setback along the north of County Road B is thirty fe�t, in accordance with a PUD originally proposed and approved for this ar�a as indicated in File 1,000, Alli�ed Stores, Applicant. We suggested infringfng on this thirty foot setback, which �.ncludes the walkway, would be undesirable. The proposed use of the building is for thc local office of Merrill Lynch realtors. We encouraged them to consider ways in which they coulcl use the bui.ldinc�, with expanszon and with parking rearrang�ment, Particularly we encouraged the renovating af th� buildin� to improve the architectural appearance of the top. 9. Hahn, 605-339-3850 Georc�e Hahn was in with Jean Par�anto, and Ed Petersen, architec� from Mankato. This proposal is tor a sixt room motel on a 2.37 acre si�e owned by Timpt�, now usednfor truck parking. Our cancern with this site has been lack of intensiv� developm�n�, though examination of �he easements leave little room for development. The eurrent indicate expansion af an additional thi.rty rooms, Pwith ancillary parking. � Jerry Sur�de is doing the drainaqe and grading plan to compl� with �he R�c� Creek Watershed and City s needs. This development is for� a"budget" motel known as Heritage Inns. It i� no� as intense a use as we might desire, though it will greatly �nhancc the app�aranc� of this site at the gate�uay to the r�developm�nt disrrict via Long Lake Road. 10. Weyandt, 936-1274 J�rry weyancit was in to discuss the pc�ssibility of dev�lopinc� a single famiiy lot on a portion �f the Roselawr� C�emetar� land, w�st af victoria, near tite northeast carnex af th� �cem��ary p�opert}�. This ar�a is larc��ly a wet 1$nd, a�d a portion of ik conc�ivably could b� dev�loped ba�ed on topographi�al data and a minimum employm�nt of fill. 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Augus t 2 2, 19 8 6 LJ T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOUR5, AUGUST 20, 1986 1, Peck, 489-9180 Joe Peck lives on Alta Vista Drive, and has previously had a lot split approved for his property which extends easterly to Dale Street. He was in to see if an adjustment could be madl in a location of the lot line, dividing the two parcels. noted this could be done by administrative action by the Public Works Director. 2. Lincoln from Korsunsky, Krank, Chuck DuFresne was in with Tom Gherty, lans and Erickson Architects, to review revised preliminary p for the construction of the Lincoln Shopping Center on the old Glendenning Truck Terminal site. They are working with a major "upscale" grocer/retailer who requires six parking spaces per thousand (versuer ofethetCenterVwouldrbetatufive requirement). The remaind spaces per thousand. • Mr. Janicsh suggested the realignment of the roadway slightly, with a gradual curve into the present service road access at County Road C. Mr. DuFresne noted that the construction target would be for a May opening, and thus there will be some time to review some alternate geometrics with respect to the existing service road and the north/south public street to be on the east side of their proposed site (behind Midway Ford). Staff has been talking to Midway Ford people, and representatives of the Space Center (owners of the land) have been talking to them as well, regarding the cooperative effort to relocating the service road. The shopping center people and some of their tenants are concerned about future competition on the properties directly to their east, the height of such structures, and the latter site from the intersection of County Road C and Snelling. We noted that the immediate corner is a 200 by 200 foot service station site, and if that site remains in tact, this will provide considerable visibility past the corner to the northwest, and thence to the shopping center site. This site development is the recipient of a Ramsey County CDBG grant, and is felt to be a positive ch.ange in land use f rom the present truck terminal facility, and will relate well to future developrnent � to the west. • • Planning Office Hours August 20, 1986 Page 2 The Lincoln Companies have submitted application for amendment to the land use plan, rezoning (to B-4), and approval of Special Use Permit for site plan approval, to be brought to the Planning Commission for its September meeting. 3. Vannase, 631-1711 Leonard Vannase was in with Jim Hall, from Planning and Design Associates, and Derrick Young, landscape architect, to review their preliminary plans for the development of a Price Savers site on the Twin City Freight Line property west of 35W and east of Long Lake Road. We noted our previous review of the City's concerns regarding this location, and specific details of their site plan. Their current submission is in response to those concerns. We, therefore, did not nor� did they desire us to go through the specific elements of our previously expressed concerns. Their proposal consists o� a 107,000 square foot building, with 750 car parking capacity. One hundred seventy of these stalls are on the upper level on the south edge of the property. They do not have finished topography at this point so, therefore, the exact nature of the terrain is not discernible at this point. They noted that surveys are being done to pin down the � location of the easements, particularly the power line ease- ment which is a"floating" easement one hundred feet in width. They propose to retain the billboard on the site, and utilize it for a pylon sign, or they may tear it down and construct a new pylon sign. � The proposal has major problems from a site planning standpoint. The rear oi the building is oriented toward Long Lake Road, where f acilities for s9.x semitruck loading bays are proposede Thus, the site is really turned 180 degrees from what it ought to be. This is due on this site, to the existence of the easements for the power �.ines and fuel lines through the site. The "tire shop", is to be located on the east end of the site, with its overhead doors accessing direct to the �rontage road contiguous to the building. The access drive past the building on the north side, from Long Lake Road to the major parking area, is only twenty-four feet wide with cars parked on both sides. This is highly undesirable. A major portion of the parking to the south (170 cars) is elevated with a circuitous route to this area from the building exit, maki.ng for difficult accommodations for carts hauling material to the parking area. • � � � � Planning Office Hours Page 3 August 20, 1986 The roof is proposed to be pitched, with no parapet height on the front end of the building, and approximately a three foot height on the east end; thus, mechanical equipment could likely be highly visible on the west end of the building. The building is proposed to be all brick, with a top "band" of prefabricated metal around the periphery. Drainage solu- tion was not proposed, thougrl the criteria for such was reviewed with the staff. Mr. Vannase noted that his down payment cannot be returned, unless the development is disapproved by the City. He noted his desire not to "fight" with the City, but that Price Savers has decided they want to go on the site. I reminded him th�t there are major problems with the site plan, and that the proposal is in conf lict with the City's development policy in this area. 4. VFW, 483-5313 Mr. Rheaume, current Commander of the VFW, was in to discuss ways in which they might expand their facility north of the Civic Center. He notes that when the building was built twelve years ago, there w�er� ��ne hun.dred fifty--members, and today th.ere are six hundred. They would desire to add a greenhous��-type dining addition, approximately twelve feet in width an the south side (which appears pos�ible), and an addition to the kitchen on the no�th. He noted that they had contacted George Reiling, and attempted to purchase additional land to the north of the site, and have not been succ�ssful in doing so. I suggested they get a survey of the site, showing exactly where their structure and parking area� are in relation to their boundaries. They are nnt certain what these relationships are today. Following this, an examination could be made as �o what extent th� building is expandable, particularly as it relates to potential parking expansion. 5. Hahn, 605-339-3850 George Hahn was in with Ed Peterson, architect, and Jean Parranto, realtor, to review their development proposal fc�r the southwest corner of Long Lake Road an� County Road C. This is a 2.37 acre site, proposed for a sixty-nine unit motel constructed Qn th�ee f loors. The structure will be brick and stuc�o with a sloped roof , Witt1 z, colonial motif . We discussed the possibility of better qu.ality in building material, and possibly more intensive use of the site. I suggested at least tY�at the plan should b�e drawn so as to show how the �tructures can be expanded on the site. This building is relatively small for the site, and the plan includes a considerable amount of green area. This is not all bad, except that I would prefer more int�nsive development, at least over a period of time. • � • Planning Office Hours August 20, 1986 \J The good news is that this development would existing truck parking area, which presents an appearance for the gateway to the Long Lake Road ment area to the south. Page 4 replace the unslightly redevelop- 6. Brody, 633-5996 Norm Brody was in with George Applebaum (one of his assistants) looking at a possible location for a major shoppa.ng center developmento He brought in a preliminary s}cetch indicating the possible reuse of the Goldman Apartment site at the southwest corner of Highway 36 and Snelling. He noted that Goldman wants $4.8 million for the site, which comes out to about $2�.00 a foot. I suggested that the redevelopment of this property for a one-story shopping center building is not appropra.ate, and that the numbers could not be made to work. When this land is developed, the new dev�lopment sh4uld be of a signficant, �+ulti-story structure. Mr� Brody is looking for We reviewed possible Camprehensive Plan. shopping center sites in the City. locations in refer�nce to the 7. Wheeler, 488-6655 Tom Wheeler lives at 2346 Auerbach, where he has a trapezoida]. shaped lot on the e�st side of th� cul-de-sac. He wants to add another twelve foot garage to his existing twn car garage, which wauld intrude on the south property line to within eight fe�t (ten fee� required). The srsuth of this line is a thirty foot wide bicycle right-of-way, with a bicycle path within it. Und�r thes� circumstances, it seemeci that a two foot variance would be in consequer�tial. 8. John�on, 541-9370 Dean �7ohnson is the owner o� Prec�.sion Tune at Larpenteur and Hamline, and was in to disc�ss a possible variance to the siqn �.ocation for �.hi� rede�reloped site. TY�e new parking area is set back fitteen feet as required, and he wants to pla�e a sign on the corner within this fifteen foot strig. I suggested that their site is typic�,�l of any business �i�e in Roseville, ar�d that there appears to be no justi.fication for a hardship condition. I suggested ways in whi�h pylon sign�s could be handled, so as to not require any variances, St agpeared too, that the signage they propose to put on the structure will be within code requirements. � � � Plann�ng Office Hours August 20, 1986 : J Page 5 9. Kline, 788-9361 Leon Kline was back with C. R. Hackworthy, builder, to review their development proposal for a new office buidling at the south side of County Road C, contiguous to the west boundary of the City. This building, as you recall, was to be two stories high, with approximately 9,000 square feet (previously reported at 8,000 square feet), for SMR Computer Services. Their site plan indicated a future easement for access to the land to the south, whic� was one of our concerns. I suggested the building be turned north/south so as to relate to the grass space to the west of the site, contiguous to the nearby structure in St. Anthony. This would provide for a more efficient parking arrangement and future e��ansion of the facility. It wQuld appear that this building could be constructed between the two existing office buildings to the east and west, and appear quite attractive, while maintaining the minimum forty foot landscaping area in front of the building as required by the ordinance. 10. Rieschl, 489-6464 Vivian and Bob Rieschl own the prope�cty �t 239� Rice Str�et, which is a farmer restaurant, ��aith atta�hecl dwelling facilities on th� west side at the structure. W� have noted, in response to previous inquiiries, that it will �i� difficult to remodel this building to expanded restaurant u�e becau�e of th� smalt scale of the si�e, and the location of the s�ructure in approximately the middle. The sit� is only 120 fe�t by 120 £eet, which is small for a restaurant site. We noted that the best soi.ution may in�rolve removal of the structure, rather than s�ending $34-40,000 �o remodel the old build3.ng, and yet wind up with inadequate and subst�mdard parking. We suggesteei tk��y have some preliminary plans drawn, indicating various possibilities bef�ore they decide to do either. Their immediate interest is ta sell the proper�y to an appropriate user. 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L-:-: ... �r r E c � � � ��' -� �,�, � � .� L _ � - � ' ��1 � �_ �� . �os�v'«E �a �__ �: ,� � .. •. .� :.J.._._ � � �� . =�- .....,... � SOTA ttEv��^ nd� l� ��--.z--� ..�`-� �a(�J �� (�] C �� :-'.': . �� — — — --.��Q��C��(,( ��(� _ll ��I ;! �i� ' f �� f �.:6r .." � r0 �� I I � i2 � 13 �r� � �� si i6 � 17 �I I� � 19 zI 20 "� � /Z' ?7 6 c �✓ $�� i • �-u-�s e�� August 22, 1986 TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, AUGUST 14, 1986 1. Hanet. 646-7901 Reed Banet, from Paster Enterprises, was proposed progress on their redevelopment for centers on the east side of Lexington, and center on the west side. in to review the shopping the proposed On the east side they propose to beg3.n the work this fall, starting August 25, with the likeliho4d that the land�caping will be done next sp�ing. The locations of tD�e driueways have been revised and fixed. The City is to do t�e curb wo�k on Roma and Dionne with work to be done furthear east on Dionne, pendinq the City's review of �atility solut3.ons e�st- ward. On the west side, th�y propo�e to have a meeting w�.th the cantiguou� ne�.ghbors to the rear, which would L�e conducted� Tuesday, August 19. The puxpose o� �his will be t4 ascer�tain l�ndscap�ng and/or fen�cing detai].s in the transitional �trip to th� r�ar of the c�n��r. To�al inv�stment for building and site work ot� the westt si.d� d�v�lopm�nt is 51.1 million. �he anchor t�naan� wi 11. b€ '�al lgreen' s. They �r� st�ll Lryi.ng ta solv� th� prohlem on the joint access drive o�f Roma, cantiguous �o the Rab�rt gaul T`l site which is or�n�d �y ��a��►s.3un txust func�, and manag�d by te�e �lor�gn Guarant�� Trust Company au� of N�w� York. Th�e l��int has �xpressed no �.nter��t in any chang�s invoivin�g j access. '�ha Pastr�r ��ople are att�mpting to ?�uy th� prol��is or get �.n agx��m�nt for th� �oint acC�ss �irive. possibla �h� joint a.cc�ss drive solution m�y hav� to occt�r l�t�r. 2. Kline. 633-9525 L�ox� K1 n� �+as ir� witk� Hob Murrcy, a re�l�or with �. M. �utler Company. Leon is the gresidcnt oE SNtR �omgut�r Servi�es, who n��d an 8,000 sqUar� foot, twv �tiory building, which th�y would like to locate soutl� of Caunty Road C, at �the extr�me w�st ea�d of the City. This would b� a 22b by 205 f�ot site carv�d out of � lare�c tract of land that ruRs from the tracks to County �oad C, and west �f walnu� ��ee�. to the City lin�. I expresscd canc�rn about providing access to th� northwe�terl�� corner �f th� si�� in th� futur�, when and if th�ese properties migh� be divided and r�ore intensely d�ve].o�ed. W� talked about providin� an �asemeni through this land for that purpose. They will prepare soan� pr�l�.mi.nary site plans to inve�tigat� feas�b�.lit� of the si�e development. � � LJ Plannin Off' � g zce Hours Augu�t 14, 19�6 � Page 3 6. Nessitt, 541-1000 Eric Nessitt was in with Gene Ernst, la�dscape artchi��ct to discuss the finalized landsca in ' br�dge. Th�s� plans indica�e ghe1plantingpof Slar e� WOAd- four to six in�hes, a�d �he com�1et�on of the landscaping program far the entire sXte, exc�pt where building pads a�d park�ng are propos�d, Thus, this initial pla�ting w�uld include the planting along the roadwa�s, construction of th� trails and s�dewalks, and the tiguous t4 the roadways so tihatrading n� the propert�es ca�- can b� installed. T�e� a�s� F��anent plantf�g and g�as� be dev�lQp�d in later sta�esp�owithd�� inst�llati�n�eof �� t�mporary watering s�st�m so as ta maintain the�� ar�as in � park-�ik� �nvironment as the d�v�lopm�nt oeeurs. WE d�scussed th� n�eds fo� s�r��n�ng along the �ast �ide �f �h� Project �n th� w�st si�e o£ Clev�l$n� � r��idenc�� n�a� th� nort,h �nd af the • p��sit� �h� on� equal� t��ty �@�t scale �rawing�twhich �th��steh�� pr�vioU�ly b�gun, �o illu�tra�� in qrea��x d�tai1 kri� ber�ing, �� pl�nt ma�er�a1 to b� l�c�t�d in this ar�arad�h0� r�main�e� of the dr$win� 1ook� good, �it� a pl�nt ma�er�� to �� put in, �� consid��le�o��l�etion o� lar�e c�liber �r��s. �ns�, �ith 7. ��tl�r 4�9�3850 R�H an� Jerr� K�t��r w�x� �n to d�sc�ss �h� pos�ib�� constructian a� a dupl�� a� �h� lat a� th� n��hQ�s� �orn�r af C�uney Ro�d ��2 and Gcxi�q�on. �hi� Yo� is �on�d R-�. �� suggQs�ed t�� drfvc�ays B� ori��t�d to �-2 rath�r �han Lexingto�, and ehat ��oy in�lude � k�r�a�ou�d f�c��it� fa� vQhici�s on th� �i��, w� noted the r�l�s for dividfn �h� in�l�d��g �h� �equir�mene of s�p��a�e�s��er�� wat� �u�ura, t� �dch u�i�. r lin�� $. Gillas 830-A60� R�y G 1��, loeal �al�s m�n�ger for Union �t��a��, w�� in ��h �ill Ridge��Y. Q�gin��r out and Dick Gunn, welA know� con��mn��ion �ttar��, si�ustion wi�h �h�ir prop��ty at the noxthwos� �aunty Road e ��d Sn�lling, 76 ��rvi�Q of Chic�go, to ��vi�w � corn�r af They h�v� be�n nes�o�ia�ing wi�h Charl�.c �ar�ch��.l r�gardiraa� land �cquisi.tion a�d passibl� �x�hangEF so t�a� �.h�ir �itc could be dev��c�ped �nd ac�omr�ad�te r��o�.�ting of �h� right-�f- wa� with a s�rvic� r�oad on sn�li.ing Atienu�: s�rair�g �h�,� ne��e�hw�s� qu�drant. Th�� ro�uc�d a site thei� �bility to de�iicat� �en fe�t of riqhtpo�nwa�nd��th� north sid�, in possibl� �xchangE fcar thir�y�-thr�e f�et of � short�r st.rip of r.�ght-o�-wa�r on thr �ast side t wher� t;h� s�rvice road woul�i b� r�moved). i � Planning Of�fice Hours Aug�.tst 14 , 1.986 � Pa e 2 g 3. Matthews, �83-69i1 Mark Matth�ws, local manag�r for Group W Cable System, was in with John Eddy, Regiona' C.E.O. for. Group W, to review possible solutions for their use of tihe old Owasso School site which, of course, they ha�vc under leas� fzom tihe I�oseville Sehool v:istrict. The Roseville system will become part of the North �entral Cab1e CompanX with management to b� in Rosevill.e. Other areas i.ncludc Blaine, Anoka, arrd White eear Lake. Proj�cted parking need� would includ� app,rax3ma��ly �hir�,�- twc� additional spaces, casterly of the pre��n� parking ar�a. The existing parkinq for servic� v�hicl�s is et about one hundred twenty-nine space�. �uture wc��1d bE on� hundr�ci sixty-one, based on epproximatcly on� hundr�d empinyees. �. noted tha�t the aciditional. parking arx�,� r�q�uire a Sp�cial U�e g�tmit ir� �ccordanc� with th� rQg�la�ions the City r�visotl for the usQ af school �roperty �eY��n og a�ght yeerg ac�o. ThQy a�re going to prepa�re mare p�c�e��e plans dhc� ma�tQ �pgZi- c�eion for tho ��rmit� In response to our guestin�, Mr. 6�ta��Y�ews no�t�d �hae th� facili�y S.s e�x pay�ing �t 8pp�oasionacely S80,OOd pc�r �+c�� No adc�itian�l building construction is cantemplat�d, �nc! tt�c� City'g u�e o� thc rQc��ion�� ,�rea �o th� �oueh wi,l� rc3ma��n ir► t�c�. �� 4� Treut�. �Q6-4�61 John T��u��, from �ha Sh�iard Cc�n�p�r��, wa►$ in wi�h �gu�c� �7one� and Bill f�ri��ley o� +�hc� 360 Ar�hitc�c+t's Compaa��r. Thoy �re laakine� at +�he c�ove�iap�nt o� ��t�il c��tc�r of �►ppra�i- matel� 20, 400 squ�rc� �eczt on �hca pro�r�� o�n�� by Ar, �tou�e, �� hQ soutMwQs� eorne�c aE Tsa��s�e and R��a ��ec��. we reviowad prQ�edurQs �nd c�iteri�� i��lu�lin� our cQncarn �o� the� �o�the+tic prot+e�tion oE thQ pand �nd �Q�iden�ial a��a► �a �thc� west. s�►e nated �t�e �ec�d for �inished bu,i:irlin�s on four sic3es, �nd p�ovision� Fa� $�cQs� �or the ��o�artiQs tQ thes sQu�hw�s� Calsa ownQd by Qr. Nousa) duc� to th� acca�i�na�l leit tu�n morremen�ts on Ri�ce Stxoet. �Ma� are in�ores�Qd �.n deu��oping �"qualit�r a�a�e��ing" ce�tar, �nd �i�l pursur� prQ- limin�ry conGe�t plans. 5. �1SOh04+tSk� 831-3�Oa Don Olsonowsk s n�ex�st�d ia� buil�3ing � car car� cancc�pt c�r:��r to includ� a t�a��i5�a.ori �3,iii.ic, �� lub� ��ci�i- �i�s, e�c. H� envis�g�s a ten to twelve thausar�d squ8�e foot, one story building; �erhaps th� nec�d for one to on� �nd one-half acres. H� is looking at the possibili��y of th� old Trapp's ga� st��inn site at th� rior�heast cort�er of Old High- way 8 and County Road C-2. Wc dissuad�d him �rom looking at� tax incr�ment prop�rties in th� vicinity of County Road C and 35W�. . �� Planning Of f ice � Hours August 14, 1986 � Page 4 Location of the building would be such that, in order to make the pump island work to the south, a zero lat line would be required on th�e north side� This is truly a hardship site, being lonr� and narrow, with rights-of-way on �our sides. Mr. I�ian�hell and �he rc��t of us agreed that it would be appro- pri��e that th�y a��.y for the varianc�, wi�ich then could be issuecl �►ith th� conditians tha�t �he righ��-of �wa� �xchang� tak� pl�c�. It aPA�ared th� City could vacat� the ariqht-of- way fox �h� old s�rvice ro�d to �he �it�Y, an�d th� City could then, in turn, �acchange 3.t for th� right-of-way �long the nor�h �id�. �t app�eerc�d� tha� i�r� �� ea��, $ coc�pc�r�tirac� �gproxch on the part o� thQ o,i� comp�ny anc� thc� City could �s� �olve ��a� prablem without �x�s��,r�Q l�,�ig�,�ion. �'� ��mindac� �t�. 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Asbury St. A,B,J:9 Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 Marion St. Auerbach Ave. G:19 Farrington Circle F:19 Matilda Circle Autumn St. K:12 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 Matilda St. Avon St. A,E,I:15 Fernwoo�! St. C-E,H:11 McCarron Blvd. N. Bayview Dr. J:18 F�S , E:15 McCarron Blvd. S. Beacon St. E,F,J:7 r t, E-F,I:B McCarrar.� �t. Belair Cir. B:I1 am G_�:2 Midland Grove Rd. Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 � � � F:20 Midland Hills Rd. •Qismarck l�ve. G:19 "' altier t. �"'ti � B-D,F,L:19 Midlothian Rd. 8�� H��8 Garden Ave. ��R K:11,12 Mid Oaks Lane & R B �rL A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. I-J:19 Mildred Dr. Brenner Cour A:2 Glenhill Road A:10 Millwoad Ave_ Brenner St. :1 Glenwood Ave. K:17,18 Millwood St. Brooks Ave. � :7,8,9,10,12-I4,18-1 Glu c n H:6 Milton St. Brooks Circl :19 �� &� H:6 MinrF.sota a�e. Bruce St. F:7,8 e. � G:13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. 8urke Av� I:10-14,19,2Q Griggs St. �-�D:� Mc�unt Ridge Rd. Gapitol w H:19,20 Grotto St. E-H: Nancy Place Capitol View Cir. H:19 Haddington Road H:8 Northview St. Carlisle Ave. J:17 Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Oakcrest Ave. Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Hand Ave. G I:19 Oakcrest Lane CentQr St. K:20 Heinel Dr. A�D:15-17 Old Highway 8 Chandler St. K:17 Heinel Circle C-16 Lane Chatsv�orth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. E,H:7 ` � o lvd. S Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. J:7 ��I�� Ow� .� Civic Center Or. D:12 Highcrest Road A B G H:1 "�� x Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. K�17 � ve. � Cleveland Ave. A--F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton St. F:10 Partridge Rd. Cohansey Blvd. H-J:18 Huron Ave. K:11 Pascal St. �Cohansey St. E-G:18 Huron St. C-D:11 Patton Rd. Colonial Dr. G:10 Hythe St. J:4 Pineview Ct. Co�rcnerce St. H:9,10 Iona Circle C:18 Primrose Curve Cope Ave. G:15,16 Iona Lane C:5,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. County Road B H:1-20 Ione St. L:11 Prior Circle County Road 62 F:5-21� Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court County Road C D:1-2D Irene Court F:18 Rambler Rd. County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. E,F,H,I:18 Raymond Ave. County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Jos hin 6:11,12 Rice St. Grescent Lane I:18 u L C:1Q-13,18 Ridgewood La. N& Christy Circle E:11 +� 12 Ridgewood Rd. Dale Court K:16 a a �"�ICen�"St�. B, � 17 Roma Ave. DaTe St. C-L:16 Lake St. J:2 �� Rose Place Deilwood Ave. C,I-�:11 Lakeview Ave. C,D: Rose Vista Ct. Dellwood St. E-H:lI Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 Rosedale Dr. Diorane Ave. L:19 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. Dionr�e St. L:12,13 Lexing�on Ave. A-L:12 Rosewood La. N. & S L�ndy Ave. I,L:I2 Ruggles St. Rnssell Ct. A:�7,I8 • A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 1 -B.1 �� Z�`D ; J ,�=1�'� B:1 B:1,7,8,20 6:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 d. J;8 A,B:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-B:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 B:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-B:4 A-L:20 S J:8 A:9 L:11-23,16,I9 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 6:8 .�� kyan'-v . ° � J:5-7,9-13,17 Sandhurst Driv H:10-12,14,15,17,19 Sandy Hock Dr. A:17 Se nt Ave. F:9,10,12,15,16,18 Sh d Beach K:20 ,,�,Sh ro aT e Ave . I: 5 St. B,D,F:10 Sh rre St. H:11-15 Sh rew od Cv. & La. , S r - , -14,16,17 4 A, • -1 F,J:9 J: , ,1 '��b,20;I:7 Sn li g Ave. Sn li g Curve E-F:9 Sn lli g Serv.Dr. W B-D:8 Sn g Serv.Dr. E A Southhill D .18 S.T.H. 35W '�� -g � H:1-4 S. T. H. 36 w�... ,,. ,.rm�-� H S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G- `_ S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,I'1 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 St. Croix 6,H:2 St. Stephens St. H:2 Stanbridge Ave. B:7-8 Stanbridge St. A:1 State Farm Road H:9 Stuber Road K:16 .Summer St. K:12 Talisman Curve D:10 Tatum St. J:b Terminal Road F:1-3 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseth Rd. B:1-2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virginia Ave. C-D:19 Virginia Circle F:19 Wagener Place k;20 Wagner St. K:17-19 Walnut St. E-H:1 West Perimeter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. B-K:18 Westwood Circle J:4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 Wilder St. N,I:5 William St. I,J:19 , Willow Circle E:11 Willow Lane E:lI Woodbridge Circle G:20 Woodbridge Court L•20 �ky � t . � • C'��17�'�"�+� �(ocrd-�3rAcr-0ryi+�e�� , , Woodruff Ave . August 13, 1986 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, AUGUST 6, 1986 1• Tanurb Allen Brown, from Tanurb, was in with Jim Dalberg of KKE Architects, to discuss the Loeffelstein wall and plantin plan north of the shopping center. The basic g the Loeffelstein wall, the fence, and the landscaping tare confined to approximately a ten foot strip Due to the height of the wall, the stri � resulting in inadequate space for thestreerplantin the top, which was proposed and approved to consist of eleven treesrto be planted south of the fence line. We discussed ways in which adequate space could he obtained for the tree planting so as to be • and snow removal equipment. It a protected from car bumpers solution is to move the curb to theesouththemaking thesstrble wider. The drawings they submitted indicated p degree angle as shown on the original Parking at a 30 obvious that the striping on the sitepliss�moxet likeed45 degrees, producing thirty-nine twenty-five approved by the Councilginpathe rorieinalan the plan. They are going to confirm the dimensions Sand measurement on the site and the angle of parking, and produce a recommended solution for City review. 2. Crawford 482-9764 Dan Crawford is a realtor, specializing in restaurants and bar sales. He is looking at the former 3.2 bar and restaurant at the southwest corner of County Road B-2 and Rice Street. This is a 15,000 square foot site, with a 1,800 square foot building. The building includes a residence on the west side. A remodeling might and, due to the location of the buildinduon the�siteVe seats provided in conformance with the ordinance might �wellklb� difficult. We suggested that the best solution would be to tear down the old building and start over. The size is sma11, being about 120 feet by 120 feet, and there appears additional right-of- WaY will not be necessary on Rice Street, inasmuch as this � area has been widened to the east to produce 100 feet of right-of-way in the past. They are going to look more carefully at the site, and return for further consultation. �i L.J � Planning Office Hours Rugust 6, 1986 Page 2 3. Kath, 484-7905 Harry Kath was in with Pat Henry, of Prestige Pools, to review a proposed site plan for his residence at 3079 Sandy Hook Drive on Lake Owasso. This house was built in 1965, previous to the approval of the plat to the north done by Dean Anklin. He proposes to add a swimming pool to the site. We reviewed the requirements and procedure� for processing this proposal under the shoreline zoning ord:.nance. We also discussed his properties approved by the Council for an off-sale liquor store which was never constructed. He notes that he bought that contract back because the proposed developer (John Gr�.ham) moved on to California and decided not to proceed. Harry notes his intention is to hold the property for awhile, awaitin� other proposals. 4. Pope, 291-8894 Bob Pope was in to discuss and review preliminary plans f4r the Price Savers Wholesale Club proposed for the St. Paul and Suburban I3us Company site. We noted Leonard Vannesse's proposal to sell the Twin City Freight Lines property west of 35W to Price Savers for a Roseville location. Zt appears Price Savers is pursuing two sites at once. Regarding location, Bob Pope noted that Daug Hanson, Vice � President of Rea1 Estate for Price Savers, �old him that Price Savers didn't want to be within five miles of Costco. The question �eing, do these two similar type retailer� want to be close by? With:.'tn the industry, that has not been the pattern in a relatively short historical past. We suggested they do nothing until a deci�ion is made on Costco, after which Price Savers may elect to relocate to a more distant location. � 5. Vannesse, 631-1711 Leonard Vannesse was in with �7ohn Lamb, realtor, Hanson from Price Savers. We reviewed a set of plans for the location of Price Savers on the TCF Hanson was noncommittal regarding his desire to second wholesale club site. and Doug prel3minary site. Mr. be near a We reviewed with Charlie Honchell, Dave Janisch, and Craig Waldron, a set of preliminary plans submitted by Mr. Vannesse. The inadequacies were many, including drainage problems, grading problems, driveway location prohlems, �oncompliance with the three gercent landscaping requirement in the parking area, retention of a billboard on the site, elevations oE the structure, and severe circula�ion problems in asmuch as the receiving docks are located on the front of the building (toward Long Lake Road), and the major entrances toward the east. Charlie noted the drainage concerns and requirements. Our contacts with TCF in the past indicated they intended to stay, inasmuch as this is one of the newer and better terminals. Apparentl�r they now propose to move out as soon as passible, which creates a probJ.em of immedi�ate appropriate use for the land, if possible. � u L_J � Planning Office Hours � Pa e 3 August 6, 1986 g Price Savers will be watching what happens on the Gostco site and, as noted by Mro Hanson, will then app�aise the situation. 6. Bartlett, 871-6395 �3ames Bartlett and Dave Stolpestod, of the Estes Compan�, were in to discuss the possible development of a car care c�nter on the Ruan property at the southea�t corner of Coui�ty Road C anci Long Lake Road. 4�e suggested this land use would no�. be approgriate for that site, and that sor�e other location should b� explored. W� reviewed with them previously prepared plans for the site, a� an indication of potential development. Their intent was to use, a part of the site. This �ite should be planned totally in the sens� that portions of it have significant easements adversely a�f�cting the potential. They agreed with the analysis, and wi11 be looking for o�her �.ocations. 7. St._Marten, 4�9-0523 Leo and Tom St. Marten (tather and son) were in to discuss the platting of a new �at with 100 feet of t�ontage on Shryex, utilizir�g the wes�erly 1dQ feet of two lots fr4n�ing on Dale Street. Each of the two lots has 76 feet of frontag�, thereby producing a 1at with a depth of 1S2 x 100 feet. We no�eci that this wnuld appear appxopriate, and could be acommplished by submiss�.Qn of � preliminary plat. 8. Mulvanev John Mulvaney and Gary Lee, architect engineers for Costco, w�re in to review two changes in �heir plans for Sgecial Use Permit on the Costco si�e� They had previous�.y m�t with Charlie Honchel�l and Dave J�nisch, and evolved an apgropriate drainage plan providing interim drainar�e and considerations for ultimate expansion of a public improvement pro�ect to drain �he public rights-of-way which they propose ta improv� now (Mount Ridg� Road and Prinr Avenue). We also revi.eweci a revised landscape plan to screen �he ar�a east of the loading docks at the northeast corner of their proposed structure. �'hey also noted th� inclusion of trash dumpers to be placed inside the building at this northeasterly location. 9. Skjelbolstac�, 370-0700 Harold Skjelbolstad, a l�ndscape architect with BRW, was in wi.th David Eide, a representative of the Rei11y, Tire Company, to discuss their praposed expansion �n the west side of Fairview, and southerly of the Burlington Northern tracks. The existing structure is 16,a00 square feet, to whi.ch th�y propos� a 14,000 sc�uare foot addition. We noted the x�equirement to improve the parking and curbing with this development. They propose a continu�ti.on of the five foot setback on the north side, which we suggested may be of concern from a fire prevention standpoi,n�, as much as the total length of the building will now be 380 feet. ; � � Planning Office Hours August 6, 1986 � Page 4 � We also noted that the tire recapping is not a permitted in the I-1 District. These people have an existing recapping center in Savage, and propose to expand operation to Roseville as well. We suggested reconsider this proposal, and consider revising variance proposal. Ther� is a great deal of land to south of the structure, so that the adequacy of land is not a factor in tY�is case . � � use tire that they the the area 10. Klodt, 374-1770 Paul Klodt was in with Dan Commers to ciiscuss the ext�nsion of a cul-de-sac north of County Road C(near the west edqe of the City) so as to serve pranerty tY�ey propose to purchase from Williams Pipe Line to the north. W� had suggested that they consider a joint development of both of the Williams parcels, which they now have under consideration. We talked about various methods of extending public right-of-way and/or private acc�ess within the developm�nt so as to provide proper vehicular circulation. The impor�ant element �� the extension of th� cul-de-sac whi�h wi11 involve acquisition of right-nf-way either on the part af Klodt and his associate, or by tt.e City. The� are �oing t� work out alternate plans for access and d�velopment, anci get back to the City rer�arding potential proposals. We a�so discussed the develo�pment of the t��.angular shaped land to th� north of Trunk Highway 88, which is planned for Y�igh density re$idential. This is a 2.7 acre site which �ao�ald produce approximately fifty u�its at th� normal �-3 density. 4Je also discussed their potential investment in the tax increment di�trict which we have been disaussing with them frequemtly in the past. Mr. Klodt has opened, in January, 1986, a new Luxberg R�s�.dential Hotel, at llth and LaSalle in Minne�polis. He nated that they have achieved eighty percent occupancy in June, and are cansid�ring l�eating similar facilities on other sites. He agreed to return at a later date, to discv.�s possible dev�lopment in the Roseville tax increment district, inasmuch as it was already 5:3Q p.m. wrhen w� campleted our discuss�ons re�.ating to the other properties. �/� NI ' NI ` 3120 :uo F so G zzro H I 0 ( 2040 � �920 K isoo � � ... ,�I ;`��i : ��I��I o� :- �- � 2 � 3`�I`V 4 ° p�f{� N N I N N N q�jl ROSE1lllLE � � ~� tP� i "� 1�ry �I e` q � a! ot c� a o �I 7 = g � � "=; !V � 1 � =f � tL. o- �� i �"3 '°� 95 �p (s �F �7 �� "�'�` �s r; 2� - �� I ��/ � � .e� �, , � � . . � � -- �� [ �\ _ *� .. � �- ' `w F `. ' ` r ' ;�..a�.c�ix.rse�+1 � ' .. - ' �- � 5Q�'o2 \ � �'I S « -- -_ _ ; \` ` ./Q: % y. �. �'l� ~ •dt4.. 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V 4 i , u L_i �� L_: c_'S � "1 � i�j ` � � � � �,�� Y�, ^ � : ��.. � 3.'. -'` �'r �, � t I 1��9tht�is Il �. �: .Y._ . �� . _�- _ _�\. `.�_,B�i\ '��f ` � b` � � v � �� K�l� �� N N I i ytl 62 � i3 a� 14 :� 15 �4 ifi � 17 �� 18 � !9 �� 20 '! r .. �( 2�2� lF �f� G _— az�o _ H = If0 � ' ' �� J r 1920 L � � � �100 � L L fLdO ' Acorn d H:4 Aglen C-D:13 Aglen . F,K:13 Aladdin St. E:16 Alameda St. I,K:16 Albemarle St. A1 bert S��'�� , B H: 0�,,,.,....� � Aldine St ,E � Al ta Vi �e-�{�r---�a-�s L `� Arona St. A- , :9 Arthur P1. B:6 Arthur St. A:6 Asbury St. A,B,J:9 Auerbach Ave. G:19 Autumn St. K:12 Avon St. A,E,I:15 Bayview Dr. J:18 Beacon St. E,F,J:7 Belair Cir. B:11 Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 ' Bismarck Ave. G:19 � � Bo s Dr B n ,6�, ,10,13-15 B .�.�" � Brenner St A:1 Brooks Av F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Brooks Ci cl� F:19 Bruce St. F:7,8 Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Capitol V�v H:19,20 Capitol Wiew Cir. H:19 Carlisle Ave. J:17 Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Center St. K:20 Chandler St. K:17 Chats�rorth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Civic Center Dr. D:12 Clarmar Ave. �'�C- C1 evel and A� � � ;�: -6 �"' Cohansey Bl�d. H-J:18� ""� S Cohansey St. E-G:18 � Colonial Dr. G:10 � Commerce St. H:9,10 ` Cope Ave. G_15,16 County Road B H:1-20 County Road 62 F:5-20 County Road C D:1-20 County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Crescent Lane I:18 Christy Circle E:11 Dale Court K:16 Dale St. C-L:16 Dellwood Ave. C,I-!:11 Dellwood St. E-H:11 Dionne Ave. L:19 Dionne St. L:12,13 Draper Rve. Draper Orive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. E1mer 5t. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwoad St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glern•�ood Ave. Gluek Lane GTuek Lane P� & S Grandview Rve. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Nand Ave. Heinel Or. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Nighcrest Road Nilltop Ave. Nalton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judifih Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lir�dy Ave. 3,4,11,13 Little B�y Rd. �1:17,18 nyan ; J•5-7,9-13,17 • LQ�og Lake R�. li-F:3 � Sand.iurst Dr� H:10-12,14,15,17,19 ,F,L:12 Loren 9td. J:5 S�andr Nock Dr, A-17 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 Lovell Ave. �:13-�6.18 Sexta�mt Ave. F:3,10,12,15,16,18 J:19,20 Lydia Ave. A.S:1,5-14 Shady Eeach K•20 E,H:1 Lydia Caurt A:� Sharon�ale Ave. i:5 A:5 �ydia �r. R-�.14 Shelc�sn St. B,D,F:10 J.5 Mactcubir� St. C D,J,L.i7 Sf►err�:n St. fi•11-15 A-J:6 !'�nson St. s:l Shore�od Gv. b La. A:7 I:2 w.�ple Lane 6:1.7,5,20 Shrye�r �ve. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 I:19 afaple La�se Ct. B:?9 A:19 t�ri�n Rd. � Sia�psrnss St. {�,8:9-20;F,J:9 B-D,N,L•19 �'�arion �t. � . J:5,6,10-12,25,20;I:7 � " A- F:19 M�a4ilda C�+�cie �:19 --�s s Snelling e�- E- I-L:11 �'atilda S -O,F,G:l9 Saeil�ng erv.pr�W B-D:8 C-E,H:11 N� �1 �-�� Snell-ir�g SQr�.Dr. 'E A-0.9 E:15 �'t S. : i8-2� � ' -� Southhil r " G:18 E-F,Y:8 Bfii�rr�oe�►3'E': .}i.K:li S.�`.H. 356� A-B:4; G-H� � G-J:2 �Ridland Grom� P. . Fl:� � S.T.H. 36 G-!i: i-20 F:20 Nidland Miils RG. J:3 { ! S.T_N_ 36.Serv. �� G-2-4 �� B-D,F,L:19 �Sidiothian Rd. td- .�.H. 36aSerw. S H:�-4,7,8,17 K:11,12 �Sid Caks Lane � Rd. J: 7.H - � 1 I-J:i9 �{ildred Dr. A,9�c -�s . �Y��t. A:10 P�ill�od Ave. Q:7��.Y0,13-I5 St. Croix ,,�� K:17,18 �Sill�oa� 8:1.?9 St. S ephens St. �"'�Fl:2'"�'��"� H:6 �� . Stan dge ve. B:7-8 A K Fi:6 o G:D9 Stan � g i. A:1 G:13-16,18-2� � � M9c�rmd�+i ve� J:17 Sta[e Farn Road H-9 C,0:12 �unt Rid . i8-D:5 Stuber R�ad K•16 E-N:15 Ptan�y Place G,}t:14 .S� St. K:12 ti:$ Pi�rthvi�tr St. � Talisasan Curve 0:10 A-L:10 Oakcrest Rve. - Tat� St. J•6 G,I:19 Qakcrest Lane�. E: --'� T�rminal �oad F:1-3 A-D:15-17 01d �lighHay 8 A-B:l-2 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 C-16 Orch�rd Laae C:I� Tophill Circle G:18 E,N:i Q�oassa Blvd. S A-C:I�-�0 7ransrt Ave. F•9-14,16-20 J:T Ow�sso Bl�rd. 5! A-R:1�-16 Traseth R�. 6-1-2 A,B,G,H:1 4xford 5[, A,C-�,N�J,f�:13 VictGria St. A-L.:14 K-17 Rarker ,Ame. i:13-15 idirginia {�ve. C-0:19 f:�0 ParYridge Rd. 6:3-4 liirginia Circle F•19 lC:11 Pascal St. A-f,�i-J:10 �agener Flace k;20 C-D:11 Patton Rd. R-9:1 �dagner St. K-T7-19 � Pin�vier+ Ct. !C:16 �'alnut. St. E-H:1 Rrir�rose Cur�re D:la Kest Peri�eter [3r. G:6 Prior Av�e. B-6.1-J:5 �'�stern Ave. B-K:18 L:11 � Prior Circie A:5 4test�road Circle J:4 C:1$ � R�rr�bler Court 0:1� 6ierrQr� Road E:2d F:18 Ram�bler Rd. D:10 Kheaton Ave. D:I5-16 E,F,H,I:18 R�ymond AvQ. R-B:4 Kifeeli.�r �lve. E,F:7 B:I1,12 Rice St. A-L:20 4�tteeler St. A,B,I,J-7 C:10-13,i8 Ridge+�ad �d. tt b S J:� Siiider St. A,I:S I:12 Ridgetibod Rd. k:9 6�i11 iam St. I,J:19 B,D,J,L.:17 Rc� Av�. L:11-23,1fi,19 biilloar Circle E-11 � J:2 Ro�e Pla�e E:1,�,7-i2,15,16�18 6Piila�+ Lane E:11 C,D:13 Ros� Vista Ct. L:11 bbodbr�dge Cia-cle G•20 1�11-�0 Ros�dale Or. J:3 bloodbridge urt L•Zp H:3,8,12 Rosela�rn Ave. J:�-14,Y7 bfoe+d ' � i:20 A�L:12 ftose+�oed La. �! � S J:3-4 e -14, I,L:12 Ruggi�s St. K:l�-l3 yn`n"U`"r' vi e""""°�"'"l� - Russell Ct. 8:8 , � � , t�oad�uff Ave. . � `q�1Q- �::.�:�I ="'°""" INNOVATIVE . . �. o � ° � MICR�GRAPHIC� . �� . . . �► s .� �, ,� . . �, � ,� �, � � : � �� i� � ��lT �'�� I�'� ��' �► .�► _ . � - - - � _ • � �� . � .� . s � .� � August 7, 1986 T0: FROM: SUB�JECT : Jim Andre John Shardlow PLANI�zNG OFFICE iiOURS, JULY 3Q, 1986 1. Christoff�rson, 633-9525 John Christoffersan is a n�w remltar in the �Q�eville a�ea, and really want�d to �just discuss general p7.annir�g� and zoning informationo W� pzovided him with a cogy o� th� 1979 Land Use Plan, as w�11 �s packets �o�iec� from th� Zoning ardi�ance. 2. Hayless, 483�5811 Eileen Bayiess is a�.so a r�altor ita th� Ros�vi21� are�, and is warDcinc� �i�h a� numbQr of cli�nts �n �n a��empt �o la�a�e sit�5 �or shopping cent�res anci hotel�. '�h� c�iscu�sion �hich we had with h�r w8s g�ncral and iden�ifi�d the �status of existing and propn�ed p�rojocts around th� �omm�ani�y, �� wQll a� disc�r�sing pot�ntisl s�,tes for the ty�a�s of us�s which �t�� was sur�gesting. 3. C1aanCo 870-1fl00 Mr, J m R�nge s th� Gom��rallar for M�r. �r�pp. H� $ a�ong with IMrs, �'x�pp and th� 81�C�'1��.��'C�, �im f�ammers, �rhoaciid �h� origin�l sit� plan �Ark icar tM� Tra�p's back �n 1978. '�his r�quQs� for a S�cial U�� Fermit for khE ��se �f � port,ion o�` the p�o�r�� fo� �he s�1e ot c�srbage t,xu�k� hag h��r� c�ntia�u�d at th� �lanr�ing Commiss,�on me�ti�c� pc�ndi�g th� d�velapment, r+ec�ip�, and xev�ew of th� ��idi�ional in�orma►ti�n. �►s ��u mayr kr�o�a, th� ba�kgraund on this �usin�ss in ��,�� lr�catior� is �xt�ns�ve. Th��e have b�en � numb�r eE �pc�cial U�s� Permit �p�lica�ions, �ign�ci variances, and othe� r�quest� of thc� �it� tl�roughout �tze y�ar�. In �ach oi thc�s@ cas��,,, t��rc h�s b��n correspc�nd�nc� and �an�l.i�ions o� apprav��,, tnost o�' wY�ich r�la�ed Co c�ear�ing up th� us� of th� fac��.ity. �h�ouc�hout th� background mat�rial, �h�r� is a p�attern of acc�pt�nce and aqreQment on �he part �afi th� applicant with �h� conditions of aopro��l, $n� �� a a�;�� o comply �ri� � th�se conditians. t�� shar�d th� �n�ir� file with rh�m, ar�d r��ommcnd�d that th�y put tag�th�r a chzonological taisto�y uf th�: pe�:mi�s on th� sit� and th� conditions of ag�proval which have lbeen set farth. we th�n informed Mr �amm h • ers t a� his best approach would b� to updat� the ex�.stinq status of th� subject �aroperty, and then to gropose a sit� pZan for the subsequen� reuse. � Planr�ing Of f ice Hours Ju].y 30, 1986 � Page 2 � They have indicated that they wiliofleeand�we�suggestedethat put together the necessar� infarmat , �hey request an additional continuannethat�the�item Woulcl�be Commissionn atethegfirsthmeet�ngdi�eS�ptember� hea�d agai f� � � 4� Baker back additional informatior� Qn Mr. Rick Baker was brinqing the Nielsen and Associates developmion which�he CPr�senteci Coun�� Road C a�d 35W� 'T�� inform�t was in xesponse to Howard DaY�lc�r�n's c��u�dnthe°�uildinqsack of d�tai�. for th� 1and�cape trea�ment a I r�vi�w�d th� mmt�ri.a�. whi�h was submit�ed, it app�axs to include �uffici�n� nwnk��r of pl��►�i�9�b�� id�r►�i�ied, w�►�►� do wel� in th� loca��ion� which ha�ve thes� ma�terials �r� sh�a��►n i� a� rc�sentat�ve f iN�el��n �,p�r�pr��t�. �r� ��k��, wh0 is the r � p►��aci��s, agr�eel ta Px�p�r� �` ��ns�which �w�r�� diseuss�d� plaat w�.th the ch�r►��s anc� ad�iti �nd �.� su.bmit it to G�rdi� Ba�e�� lcanc� �►i�h �h� building �aa�mit a�plic�tfon� 5. L�o� i�� 6�1�-75Q4 his pa��n��, a�ha �nn �► �3�m L�c�Qr��t w�s in �o�r�sc�n�ing p��pc:r�y d,i.r��tly �ta� �hc� wc�sw �eh ��r� and�.r$��'�og€�r�ui�� Ssr�il��g Avanuca. Th� pra�r�y � �c+�upg� a�a� bui�,+� �� a tripl�x and ha�rlt�san��s�b��nsu�ad�a$ p�e� �� .xtQ�� ya�r�. �►hi�.a s�h� F� Y a��ipl�x �r�r� th3.s p+�xiocl of t;��m�� h� lae�� +�t�ieh i�� si�s aa� ha� a�l�ay$ bca+�n �ac�pd Ft-2. t�z . La�erqui�� h�� c�n,t�.� �ch��h��$'��v�dl� m e��upyir��i� o� h�s 1�c��, �nd thc� ur�l.t �t�i � r�o� mg��apria�a fa� h�nc�i�ap r�ccc€$�ib�nc3�mar�� tc��p�ro��r�� y��vQ ct�as�n�hQir��u�rr�n� n��d��n�g� which t�Q�� a��itt�rs � a��1cl �n R-2 �o it-4, "��e��t h�►ve� cran��c��d �1� ths� �d�a�€�n� pro�r�'� no�� c�f thQm o�ajo�� a ��nitrbuilc3�n��onia�� f�� thra� �r�d fc�ux dw�llinc� � a N��,�, �,Q�-339-3850 G�mr�e� �i��n s from 'Tk��raldss�r� ��h�d �ttQndo�0ana0f�icQ Siau�c �al;s, Sou�i� t�ako��, Nlr�, ��►h tan�i��. hat�s]. aintmen� ��t w�ek r�g��cd��' $ 1� H�ur �pp '�Ma pl�n� w�ai�h �lr a H$hn r��v�l�opmc�nt Qr� the Ruan pro��l�. p��en��t� ��st wcek wore un�rc�VQss�e��t'�e��ffu�m�sn��r� gen�xa�ly m�t with vcr�y little xa pras�n�. � � � • Planning Office Hours July 30, 1986 • Pa e 3 g �oday, Mr. Hahn came in with Mr. Jean Parranto and Mr. Ed Phillips, who is an architect out of Mankato. They presented plans for the development of a Heritage Inn facility on the �impte parcel located to the west of Long Lake Ro�d and south of County Road C. �enerally speaking, the plans which wer� presented and discussed tod�y represe�t � very distinc� improvement over th� direction w�ich Mr. Hah� seemed �o b� taking last ��ek. �� discussed the pr�posed sit� de��lopm�nt concep�, a�d made som� suggestions for impravements in �rie b�ilding matorials, lands��pe treatment, �nd site circula�ion. How�v�r, th� ovQral� appra��h �� h� dev�lopment of th� sit� and t�� gen�ral qus�i�y of th� �onstructian �pp��red t� bc� muc� b�t��r than that wh�c� was propo�ed aarli�r. Th�s d�v��o�- ment wauld ��ovide tha opportu�ity ta cle$n up th� use which i� �urrcntly 3n �l�cc o� tho �imptQ si�Q. it is thQi� in��n- �i�� to r�vise �h��r �l�ns �nd a�t��d noxt wQ�k`s Of��c� Hauxs $e�sion. i. R��rt�afl b33��5�� GQnc� �oEaar��on 1 ve� �n R��biQr Ra��, �nd ,�s ��tmr�gt� in ��att�n� � mino� va�iancQ to �o��es a�a�aq� ne�r��r +��a �ida �p��d t��n �h� �Q��irc��l �et�a�ci�. �ca hes � �p�at� �h��h �h�r� �thr� �ro��rs� g��g�� at�an, �an� �h� �cra�+�r� �or �h� gara��Q 1oc��e�n i� eh� n�Q�i �� o+�e�� v�� l�r�s�, n��ur� �us�ar map�e an h.�� o��rt�. �1� h�� h�a �is��urQ �n� �ppr��r�l a� th� abo�c�ir�g ��a��t� ��r, �r�d� �►o� onQ �n e�Q a��n� �n�iqhh��h� ob�c�c!�� a �h�� ro�o�nt. 8, ��n�:�sa b 31 � i i 11� �,. .a._..�...�:a �or��r �� r�� n��.r3�n� a�� to �D�c� pro�csd��e� �+�� pr��c��nq � ��s� �o� t�r� ��d�er�lo�nc �f �h� 'l'��n ��e� F'�e�iq#�� p�rt� +�n �ho €t��e sid� a� ��n� i��k� ��d. �'he p��t�� rc��delop�m�n� c�� th� �ra��trt� w�a�� r��a� ��ct�Q��ad a��e� ��r � a�ht�lt�� club t�p�c s�� , �#�� a� et�� onuc�r��e�or� �a��c��d a►��itn�l �h� �a��t��i�t� �rl'i�h ��e��t t�Q �Qvel�ap+mt�n� of �ha �r�a�a� ��, r�o�� r�ota��► �i�� c l�n�r saa�a- o�ene� and �� NSP vve�ho�� ►Q� l,�n� �a�Qr�an�� w3�,i��r a��ec� thQ dQvc�lopm�nt pc��1 �o� �ha pra��t�►k �t�s mado ,�t vr��► �lo�r to �tz . V�na�� +�h�� +t�i� t�c� Q� ��, whil.cr e�onerall� eon��tant witt► �h� B-� u��, �r�� n�e of tho 1Qv�1 a� i�►t+�ns�ty �hi��r would b� e�nsi�eet�� w�.�h the� �ol�ci�s which �l�� Ci�y hss Ear i�s t�argczk arc��. �►E�er a L'��r � i.�a��ii�� LA�:7i�iiJ�iil17 j ��1 a Y�il�� `dd:s g �C�� .i30 a�pl�.c�tion go�m �►nd saiei that ho wauld ra��rn �� t�lk with th� ��Ef �t � sub��c�u�n� t��'ic� �iaurs so�sion. � � f f ice Hour � Planning 0 Jul� 30, 1986 � Pa e 4 g 9. Jarvis, Davidson 884-6878 Jerry Jarvis and Tom Davidson are both realtors with Merri�.l Lynch. �hey have been given the listing for the Ruan paxcel on the north side of County Road C to t�he west of 35W. They discuss�d the location of a Comfort Inn and r�tail �trip center. We exp�ained that the hotel use may be deemed accep- t�ble if its appropriate 3n image and design, but �kfiat th� ret�il us� was not generally cons3.stent with the ty�� o� uses t�hi.ch th� City envisioned far this axea. Th�y explained that the Ruan owners were v�ry it�teresked i� sQiling the property, a�d it made it �ery clea� �� the Merrill Lynch p�ople that they would 1ik� to h�v� ft �sa1.d by this fall. w� encouragad them �o have th� �ropo5e�d! dc�vclogers prcpa�e site plans and c4m� in �nc3 di��t��s them with ug. 10. vinr�e�3 ��6-67q7 M�cm�� V�,nnas w�s in, rapre�en�inc� tho Ramsc�y Cc�untg� lGibr�xy. ��tr, d�nnQ� explained th�t RamsQy Count�r has �e�cc�ntly bc��a q��nt�d bondin�t authority �or �p to S15 mi�li�n +�s� �.a�at� g �c�+� t�am�Q�r Count� Libr�ar� Meadquar�er� f�cil�t,g� se�mc�whe�Q ir� 1R�sa� C�un�y. He h�d t�i�� c�n�ul�� tcar�tl�, �+hc� ��on�l� rflco�vn�nc9ctd a��emp�ir�Q �o �ind a la�a�tiQr� E�� hi� f�c�,ii�:�+ w��in tl�� Cit� of RosavillQ. �n p�rtic�lar, t�h�ir ��itari� fc�� i�e ��Q�ei�� indieat� r.h+�t �h� nc��cs�� t� �he ma�� nter �tea or m��a� �hop�p�ngi �ra�� w�uld �e th� t��+� ��tc��. �t� �r�u�d�� h��+ w�+�h t��+�a in�oron�t�e�n, �a�d c��acou�aqea� him �� car��Ac� a��h �� a� thc�t �en� ��go��h �h+�ia �r�c�� t�c� �� e�s�n��i�� c�d di�cus�c�� A e��lct of �r��s�g+tie�s �h,�eh �� an+��+�1�� d�+�aer��i�l� �o� thi� �►�s� it� �hQ a��ct� �r��a��d �� C��e��. t�� old ��1�. vi�� k��t �h� Git� �a��d 1t� �e�r� �nac��u� t� ce��p�� +�h h�m �n r��a v€�n�urr�» �� k�� hat t�� k��p �a� ir��m�� r �1. �l��h�w ��1-A�67'i ��r0� lie�a�. o� �tQ�� ble�, h�d b��a� i� �e� UE�ica Hc,u�� Q��i�n l��t �a��;k, �nc� h�d pr��e��d �a�� gl�n� �,a ��r�vid+� p�e�k�� u� ehoir ��ci��in� fgc�l��. '�i�e �al�n� wh,i�h t�� p�e��en��d ��to�rc�� em� �dditian�� p�rkin� car� t�,�a ��c�e t��++A�dl �,�� r��a. w� m�da �amQ reeo�mQr�d�tie�� es�inar�Qn+�� thQ�a �l�n� �r►� e�i�cu��Qd, �n ��i+�icul��, �hQ l,.o�atiare �ear the cu�t� cu� �cc�ss c,ue onta �t��dh�ll D�ci��, �� ax�o �u�- �!e��ci t1��t� �h�y �rQ�ar� %ar�tl��ap� �lart� ��+hich vor� hc�av�ly ��c3�t1 ��1.�� Teg��7A g��l�inq �rca troan 'v:i��v�ii� �c�:�3a4. �n� o� tiz� int��seine� i��m� which c�n�� u� in �i�e dis�ussican was �he �ac� tt3a�t eher� �xi�t� �omc� �car�y Eocat da��a d�y we11s an tt�� ic�e of ti�i� �ormer ��ha�l prop�rt�r, which w�s �l��ground. Thes� �lry well� ��a vex� uc�sa�� t thi� poir�t, wi��h remov�t�].� g�i,d covcrs �nd th�n simply � for�.y �oot de�p hc�1e ��h som� w�,tQr in the bQttam. �e maele it uery �1car �o Mr. N1at�hew that it w�s importarat khat this b� �acured befor�: this �roa b� dev�lop�d For parking. :� . � Office Planning Hours July 30, 1986 Page 5 • We also questioned whether or not this type of drainage would be adequate to serve tl�e development of the parking facility there. We identified a couple of opti�histsiauationtwashto problem. The first option to deal with connect a catch basin in the corner of the p�rnative�wouldtbe City storm drainage system. The second al to make some permanent saf ety imprfv��m�heSCityttosf alllsback dry wells, and post some security on in the event that t:.e dra�.nage provided by these dry wells was not adequate to service �the drainage of the parking lots. 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Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsarorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. �olonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road B2 County Road C County Road C2 County R�ad D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:I3 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 B.6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,20. H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,�)-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C, I-� :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:12,13 Draper Rve. •3 4 11,13 Draper Drive �' � Dunlap St. F L:12 Eldridge Ave. I�5,7,8,10-12,16,1� ETmer St. J:19,20 Eustis St. E,N:1 Eveiyn St. A:5 Evergreen Ct. J;5 Fairview Ave. q_�;6 Fairways Lane i:2 Farrington Ave. I;ig Farrington CT. A:I9 Farrington St. B-D,N,L:19 Farrington Circle F:19 Fernwoad Ave. I-L:11 Fernwood St. C-E,H:11 Fisk St. E:15 Fry St. E-F,I:8 Fu7ham St. �_�:Z Galtier Circle F:20 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Garden Ave. K:11,12 Giesman St. I-J:19 Glenhill Road A:10 Glenwood Ave. K:17,18 Gluek Lane H:6 Gluek Lane N& 5 H:6 ,Grandviev� Ave. G:13-Z6,18-20 Griggs St. C D:12 Grotto St. E-H:15 Haddington Road H;g Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Hand ave. G,I:19 Heinel Dr. A-D:I5-17 Heinel Circle C-16 Herschel Ave. E,H:7 Herschei St. J;7 Highcrest Road q,g,r,,y;l Nilltop Ave. K-17 Ho7tpn St. F:10 H�ron Ave. K:11 Nuron St. C-D:11 Hythe St. �:q Iona Circle C:18 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-2U Ione St. L:11 Irene Circle C:18 Irene Court F:18 Irene St. F �I.ig Josephine Rd. -�+ ' 4�s Judith Ave. �� _ �g� � �� Karyl P1ace I:12 Kent St. g:p�� Lake St. J.2 Lakeview Ave. C,D:13 � Larpenteur �lve. �;I�_20 Laurie Road N:3,8,12 �� Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Lindy Ave. I L:12 � Little Bay Rd. A:17,18 long Lake Rd. H-F:3 Loren Rd. J:5 f.ovell Ave. G:13-16,I8 Lydia Ave. A,B:I,6-14 Lydia Court A:1 lydia Dr. A-6:14 Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 Manson St. g;i Maple Lane 6:1,7,8,20 D�taple Lane Ct. g:19 Marion Rd. H:3 Marion St. B-I,L:20 Matilda Circle F:19 Matilda S. S-D E G:19 t4cCarr �� }�_ �� ;L:�' rrons St. Q_p,Hy�s,.�l Hid nd Grove Rd. H:4 • Flid7and Nills Rd. J:3 tt� y n4� Midlothian Rd. H-I:8 Mid Oaks Lane 8 Rd. J;8 Mildred Dr. A,II:6 Miliwood Aye. 6:7-8,10,13-15 Millwood St. B:1,19 Milton St. A,H,:14 Minr�esata A�e. G:1$-20 FSoundsview Ave. �;17 Mount Ridge Rd. A-0:5 Nancy Place G,H:I4 Northview St. B;20 Oakcre�t Ave. E:5-8,11,12,25,18 Oakcrest i.ane E:19 Old NighwaY $ A-B:1-2 Orchard Lane C:14 t4rass� Bivd. S A-C:16-20 Qwasso 81v�. W A-B:15-16 � Kyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hock Dr. Sextant Ave. Shad> 8each Sharondale Ave_ Shel dan.,St _ -i3,I7 12,14,15,17,19 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B D,�•1�,..� ��,� 1-1,� '� .a . ,; Shr'yer ve. 14 16 17 Sirnpson �`�� - �,F,J:9� Skillman A � J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Snellinq Av �_�;g Snelling Curve E-F:9 Snelling Serv.Qr. W B-D:8 Sneliing Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 $s�ti�iill Dr. � �• � � $. . 5W �� . :� 36 �t��: l �20�J1-4 i�i'�'1��i.T. 36 Ser N G-2-4 H. 6 Ser _ S H:3-4,7,8e�17 S.T_N 28 . 1�� -�� St. Albans S . C,F,G,L:l � St. Croix ��H:Z St. Stephens St. H;2 Stanbridge Ave. g:7_g Stanbridge St. `�� -�,' Sta te F��aa� Stuber �oad K:I6 �' �-= .Surttne:^ St. K:12 Talisman Curve D:10 Tatum St. �:6 Terrninal Road F:l-3 7errace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 TopF�ill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 -r„ � A,C-F,H,J,K:1 "�, Troseth Rd. Oxford S B:1-2 Parkei�ve.j � ��j �, �� , Vic�oria St. A-L:14 Partridge � ,�� r� J�''"1 � } Virginia Ave. C-D•19 pascal St. --�� Virginia Circle F- • -F,H�:10 Ratton Rd. p_g;l Pineview Ct. K:16 Primrase Curve D:10 Prior Ave. B-G,I-J:5 Prior Circle A:5 Rambler Court D:I8 Rambler Rd. D:10 nd Ave. A-6:4 �ii � t. A-L:20 Ri�od La. N b S J:8 �,R' - - od Rd. A:9 L:11-13,16,19 Ro �,e Ro _P.�taCe E:1,2,7-12,1�,16,18 Rose Vista Ct. L:11 se� Dr. �.3 rRo�� wrr� Ave. J:2-14,U o� La . N& S J: 3-4 �t�}g.les St. K:I1-13 Russell Ct. g;g .19 Wagener Place k•20 Wagner St. K:17-19 �lalnut St. E-H:l West Perfineter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. B-K:18 Westwood Circle �;4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 Wilder St. A,I:S William St. I��;�g 4liilow Circle E:11 ' Willow lane E:11 Woodbridge Circle G:20 l+foodbridge Court L:2p Woodbridge St. A-G,I:ZO Woodhill Drive Q:�1-14,17-18 Woodlynn Drive A:9-10,13,14,19,20 Woodruff Ave. K:18 �o�r�■��■ � � �� E . INI� � � � 4 � '�.API-�IC� . � MIC�.�J� ;, � � � TH� ��C�R � �r��I�iC�� C� � il�� F�E �� CC��I� �1 Ei�� V�� +�Al� �1�T � ��PiA��.� PRC�C�U� � �� /�� ICR��IL� ! �'l �� .� 0 • � � July 24, 1986 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURSo JULY 23, 1986 1. Tramm, 633-1760 Kim Tramm is with Marpon Homes, Inc. out of Arden Hills (in business since 1967). He was contacted by Mrs. Gephart, with whom we had discussed the possibilities for the development of a sma11 cul-de-sac at the northwest quadrant of Victoria and County Road B. He is interested in developing, what would appe�ar to be about seven or eight single family. Dave Janisch showed him the location profile for storm sewer, which is on the rear lot line of the four lots fronting on ui.ctoria. This storm sewer would be the alignment of a passibl� cul-de-sac opening up the lots north of County Road H. Y sU9gested that he get some topographi�al data, and prepare a preliminar�r plan For subseq�tent review by the City. 2. Ri�333�36�4 Hal Ring �as n�a discuss kh�* possible expansion of the old Tt�ermo King Buildir�g on the west side of Fairvi�w, south of Paci�ic Door Company. This site� is now occupi�d by the R�:i11y Tire Comp�ny, who proposed an add�.�iom on the westerly side, with st��l and �eta1 panels cnot a pole sheci), The building is �et back fiere ��@t from the north prop�rty line, and �lthou�h the initi�l �uilding apparently c�as built before th� 2�59 ordinanc� (and thus is noncon�'orminc�), the exp�nsion would re�uir� tihe proc�ssing of a variance. Mr. Ring not�d that his compar�y had built th� origin�l buildi�ng in appr�ximat�ly 1957/58. 3. wickman1 446-409�5 Tadd wickman is a landscape architeGt, irom �rnst Associates, who was in with Eric Nessitt, frorn Woodbridge, r��arding ti�e C�n�r� Point� p�oj�ct ea�terly o£ 35W. They presented �o�� well. elon� landscape and trails �ys��m plans for th� entire Praj�ct, wh3.ch in�luc�ed d�signation of tY�e firs�t ph�se develoc��nt and pr�p�ra'tion a� the r�mainder of th� site. They� propose ta s�ec� and soc� th� �ntire s,ite, an� construct the �oadway and pathway �ystem and initial stx�uctures for stage 1. The principal stage 1 structure would be a� three �tcary offfce building in t�e c�nter of the si,te� op�osite the extension of the alignment of Lydia Auenue. � � Plannin Of ' � g fice Hours July 23, 1986 • Page 2 We related the proposed plans with those approved by the Planning Commission and Council, emphasizing the need for the greater detail of the berming and landscaping for the forty foot strip across Cleveland Avenue from the residences near the northerly portion of the site. They propose to add these details. Mr. Janisch noted that the roadway trees should be off the boulevard, on the private property. They propose these trees to be four to six inch Red Maples, planted fifty feet on center. This would produce an immediate asesthetic imgact of some magnitude. We discu�sed the trails location, expressing some concern regarding the ability to police the trails by the public and/or the public and the Police Depa�tment, inasmuch as a substantial portion of the trails are not contiguous to a public right-of-way. The trails will be six feet w�de, and designed primarily for hikers a�d runner�. Dave noted the importance of connecting the trail system to the public street system at certain points. Overall, the plans looked very good. They will be reviewed a�d revis@dr and brought back for review by City staff. 4. Franke, 636-6400 Sill Franke was in �ith Rick Bak�r ta discuss tentative plans for th� possible redevelopment of the Chandler,Wilbur Burial Va�lt si�e, and prop�rti�s contiguous t� the south on th� east side of Hamlir�e Avenue. He showe� us a d�awing indic�ting two office b�ildi�gs ori�nt�d to Hamlin� Avehue. I sugg�sted replacement of the Chandl�rlwilbur industrial site with an offic� buildinq would constiture a positive improvement, although the h�igh� of th� stzuctur� may be a p�roblem consid�ring th� c4ntiguous r�sidential ar�� o the east. we r�view�d th� Cauncil's policy r�garding �ed@velopmenk, Mr, Frank� noted he had discussed some possible tax ic�crem�nt pot�nti�l with Cxa.ig Waldron. �Q �efinitiv� ac�ion is proposed at this t��. Mr. Frank� also revi�wEd their proposed landscape plan for the Corpprate Center site at the northwest corner of C and Long �a�� Road. There h�ve been slight r�visions in the foot- print of the building, which cQnstitut�s consid�rable improvement inasmuch as it �llows for better p�destri$n c�rculat�on, and creat�on of g�tio areas in t�� se of th� bu��dinq at the southwest corner of the site. � We compar�d the new la�dscape plan with the o�e previously approved by the Planning Commission and Council, noting som� dif£erences. We are particularly conce%�ned that th� low foundation planting in the original plan be followed through on the �inal plan. This is not serious, but we feel will be • � � Planning Of f ice Hours July 23, 1986 Page 3 appropriate to soften the line of the structures as they rise out of the ground. Most of the remainder of the landscape plan coincided with the original proposal. They are going to make a revision, and resubmit for City staff approval. 5. Cyrus, 631-0056 Dale and Norma Cyrus live at 2181 Hamline Avenue North, which is a single family lot on the west side of Hamline immediately north of the gas station at the northwest corner of B and Hamline. A portion of their existing driveway is contiguous to their south property line. They propose to build a new garage, replacing the one they have, which would conform to the required setbacks (five feet from the south property line). In answer to an inquiry, we noted although partions of t�he driveway ar� not conforming, the garage can be replaced without variance. 6. Hahn. 645-339-385Q Gearge Hahn, from Sioux Falls, 5outh Dakota, was in to review his revised proposal for the Ruan site. He presenked a r�vised persp�ct�iv�e o£ a propo�ed mote�. structur�, with sixty-three rooms, prepared by an arck�itectural stud�r�t �rom Sioux Falls. Staff ac�r��d that th� building looked v�ry inad�qua�e, �nd app�eared to r��res�nt the low quality approach �xp�.ained to us by his r�presentativ� from last w�ek. He showad us a sit� plan proposing his motel on the e$st side of the grop�rty, a r�st�urant in the c�nt@r, anc� $ car wash and qa� station on the w�steriy �ide of th� site. No acc�ss was indicated tc� Long Lake Roade S�� not�d �hat with the pr�senc� of th� m�dian strip on County Road C, acc�ss to all us�s on thi� sit� for west bound kraffic woulci be �ia t,any Lak� Road. H� propos�s to build th� motel, and d�v�lop the r��naind�r of the sitc la�.or, whil� Ruan conti.nt�es ko opera�e the r�maining site and struature Far a time. W� suggest�d that this wo�eld not b� an appropriat� proeedure, and tha� dividing off the �asterly par� of th� si.te Cfor th� mot�l) makes the r�mainder far mor� difficul� t�o d�v�lop. U�ing his words, it k��com�s a "tr�,shy" s3.t�. We showed N9r. Hahn a d�velopr��nt plan prepar�d hv the D�llan people, which w� sugg�s�ec� indic�a�es the �ype and intensit� of dev�lo�m�nt that would be workabl� for �his sit�. He talked about puttinq two mot�l� on the site, an� a r�stauran� over a period of time. The site plan indicat�d concrete araund three sid�s af the mot�l, wi.�h a�rass strip on �he w�st side only. , ' 1� � Planning Office Hour� July 23, 1986 7. � Page 4 I suggested, in all candor, to Mr. Hahn th�t perhaps his low budget approach to this type of development mig�ht be appropriate elsewhere, but that it is really inconsistent with the City s policy and goals for this site. He notf.d the si�e if 4.87 acres, and is selling for $3.43 per square f�ot. �e suggested that this price recognizes the impediments to the site, and is perhaps a realistic basis for the ki�a �f de�elopment the City envisages. I tried m best to lead Mr. Hahn to the a p y gently site, and its implicationronrtheetaxnincrementregarding this program. Maiett�a, 636-9000 Don Maietta is a Iocai manager for the Rosevil�e branch of Merrill Lynch Realty Company. Th�y are loaking for a site for a 12,000 squar� foot, two story office building. He had been talking to ,7ohn Labalestra, op��ator of the Lido Cafe. They were shocDced to �,earn that �hey may consider not bu�.ldir�g �hat restauxant on the site approv�d, on th� west sid� o;� Snelling. In answer to his inquiry, I noted tha� if the Lido is not constructed, the sit� could b� clivided subject to Cour�cil approval. I noted, however, that th� City is d�sixous af �i�vin� the L,ido construct�d, an�i that it would lik�ly co�stitut�: a considerabl� ass�t to that a��a of Che City, 8�� th� Gity �s � who��. �n oth�r wo�ds, I was carc��ul to nate that I am not recam�mendir�� th� abandonm�nt of th� Lido prop�osal but that if it wer� not buil.t, s muY�i-�tory ot�f ic@ buildfng wauld be acc�p�$bl�� w� �h�n r�viewod �,��th �fr, l�tai�+tta a vari@�y of o�h�r pa�sible locations in Rca�eville. 8• �i�mc��I.ler 223-5004 K�nn�th K�no�l�.ex, an Economic �v�lo�ament Dir�ctor fo� the ��st Metro A��a Cha.mb�x oF CommQrcc� Ce�mmit��, was in with a s�a�f m�mb�r, L�ah Shi�1y, r�o pat�n�ial indu�tri�l sit�� in R�s�vi3l��armation r�garding sit�� ti�a�, to e�ur knowl�d � 8 �� rQv�.�w�c� �ix ��velopm�nt. �-� FP��r�d to be availalal� fcar �� alsc� di�cussed with �h�m the ov��ell concQ�t af th� East Metropolitan ar�a promok,ion objectiv�. It �, �, a�.l, purpcaS� is to mak� west side m�tropoli�anpareasd�y�],opers awar� o� the gotential and availability o� sit�s in thE easterZy rnetropolita� area. we t�lk�d abo�tt th� impact of th� freeway s_yst�m► a�� the 1ti'illinr�n�� of o�st side communities to c�operat�, we did no� discuss financial contr�.butions o� th�: part of any communities, but no�ed that �h� Ros�vill� s�atf would be helpful in praviding infarma�ion. Craig Waldron noteci the exist�nce of the Star City tapesr and other data being ass�mbled, which would be h�lp�ul toward their cause. . � � 0 � Planning Office Hours JUly 23, 1986 i Page 5 9. Banet, 646-7901 Reed Banet, of Paster Enterprises, was in to review potential cahnges in driv�way lacation with respect to their proposed new shopping center on tk�e west side of Lexi.ngton, and changes to the east side existing center development. He had a meeting with Kirkwold, Ramsey �ounty Traffic Engineer, and Chaxlie Honchell, at which time these changes were ciiscussed. It appears the �xisting traffic on Lexinc�ton Averiue in this area is 17,000 v�hicles (average, annual, �iaily). He notec� that th� study produced a figure of thirteen accs� dents per y�:ar at the op�nircg� in the medi�n strip opposit� the �ntrance to th� shopping center an the w�st side of the str�et. This i� more than all t�e �ccid�n�s from Hiqhway �6 to Univexsity A�renue on Lexington Avaflue in ��aear. Clasirag this acc�s�, how�ver, w�uld be devas�aking to th@ w�st �idQ ce�nt�r (Margolis�. M.r. ea�ne� proposed, ho�eue�, to �grc� �o clase th� a�c�ss at �hi,s point on tha ea�t side, �u.bstitut�t�� a ririv��ay fu.r�l�� to th� south anc� on� ta �h� north� a� �ugg�st�d �y Mr. Hon�h��l and t�r. K�rk�rcald, �,i�houc�h this do�� not pxc�la�ce � per�c�ct arranqem�nt, it woe�ld �pp�er tu k� a s��e�r �olu�i�n, e�limina�ing +�raffic that �ould a�tc��p� to cr��rs Che s�Cr�e� d3rQc�� from one centQr �o th� �tk�Qr. Wa� also tsl�ked about �hc� �Qal�gr►mant of �h� roadw�ys with �a��ct to �ho new c�nt4� �c '� loca�Q�k oh thQ w�st �sid� o� Loxington � r��rth c�f First ...�r�n�ffiota ��dQra� �. it �� rc�con�mc�nded th�t thQ drirreway on �ha na�rth sicl� t� �oc�;�,�d cl�r�ctly oPpasite Rom�� Avc�nua. fihi�, h�►w�v�r, eur�r�s on a �gint p�apt�r�y ilnca w�th "To�► C��Can on the �►ar�h. '�hi� st�uctura i� ow►no+d by �h� Tom �lcCan P�ansian T�ut�t, anr� �fiu8 m�� prave dlfficu,lt ta do�� wit�. 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FEndler._, 522-2200 i?oug Fendlcr �s a tion Co�pany out of �'he� ar� to be d�:velopmon� project at tho northeast Tlhey are prnposing includoe l. 2s �, Pro�ect P7anag�r for ti�e Haymaker Construc- 2201 W�st River Road, north t�it��n�apoli�. the builders for �h� r�cently �pproved for Tire Plus/Precisiot� Tune i3evel�pment carner of Namline and Largent�ur Ruenu�. som� minor ch�ng�s in the buiYdinq which Eiaisinc� �t�e parap�t height from 17' to �g`8'". Raising thQ �inishQd coiling haic�ht ��°om 1Q'6" to ��4�At. Subst�tuto TI-22 mota� stattding rib ro�f�ng for a��alt shinq�les on the man�8rd reo�, I t41d h9r. Fenriler �h�a� the �aisinq oi th� c�ilinc� hc�i�J�� is accep�able. exce�►� that thQ mans�rd ��f no longer f�t�ction� �a� a se�oen tQ �h� hea+�in� �nci a�r c�nditioning c�quiXrmc�n� te� � p��cQ�# a� �h� �oo�. I suggastQd that i� �h�y ac��d �o pu� the hoa��in� and aiz� condi�ianir�g equipmant in�iclo th� but�tl�ng tunder t�e rs�c��a. ty�Qn tMe incr�as�d ��lin� hmight atad ��i�ht 3�ncrcasse :.� �ho parap�t heigh� � Qverall h�,ight o� tha builclinql trould not kar� a probiem. I�lsa wanfi.�d � con�mi�-� m�nt, in wri�ing, tha� �he mat�l r�oofing in �h� �txuc�ure� would bct �ona� �n ��hton�s t n� blue rooE ). La�nd�caping commit�ents wo�ld f� a�s s�bm��tte�d to the �18nr�i�g Comr�i�sion �,nr� Council. Chanr��s in d��inage, sugc�aste� by t��c. Jar�i�ch, wo�ld Iso �requirod as rel�tes to picking ��a t�E dr�tinagc� �rior to slopi�c� �o the stracat at �h� driv�way�s, t��c. Fend�c�r agraed to cAn�id�r tt��sQ r�quixQnn�n�s with his �i,�cntiy a�d re�pond wi�h a�Qttar to �h� Cit�. (w� hav� �incQ r�c�ived �uch l��t��, with copi�a �o Dav�ci�7�nisch anci �ardan eesethl. 2. Gois�Q�. 339-d200 �Qm �e�sc�r �.s �►n arehitect with KKE, �nd wa� in to discuss con�ir�uecl planning for tl�� Lincoln Pxop�rt�es vhopping Cant�r, w�sterlX of th� Slawik site, north of County Road �C. T�e footprint Qf th� shoppix�g c�nter has been reviseri ta inciude now a� major� t�i.gh quality food store r�earest to County Etoad C, of tka� I�und' �/Byerly's type. I�eel this a po�itiv� change, inasmuGh as Roseville do�s not �urrently hav� such a store, at�d it wi�.1 attraGt a wide trade �rea. � u 3. '��. J 1 Planning Office Hours July 16, 1986 • Page 2 We expressed our concerns, as we did in the previous week� regarding the handling of the access to the site off the currently constructed service road. Mr, Honchell had sug- gested that the new road to be constructed on the east side of the shopping center be extended straight south to County Road C. This would allow for the vacation of the existing service road now angling past the front of Slawik's Ford Motor site. We had discussed this proposal with Mrs. Slawik and her advisors several weeks a o in contact with the Lincoln Progert suggesting that they get mutually beneficial idea. P Y People to consider this Mr. Geister noted that the Lincoln people had tried to get in touch with Mrs. Slawik, but a meeting had not taken place yet. We suggested it would be mutually beneficial to relocate this service road, and that it would be important to accomplish this objective as quickty as possible. I subsequently met with Chuck DuFresne and Ron Krank, neither of whom could meet with us on the 16th, to stress the importance of this roadwa a reement. that if the service road is vacated, thaDuthisnwouldccreerned greater development �otential for the Slawik ate a east of the shopping center and ma Property to the the shopping center from Snellin yAvenue,conIesuence, screen this is not likel g g5ested that Y, inasmuch as the frontage to the Slawik property would no� orient, for access purposes, to the west ia new service road). I noted further that the question of retail develapment �long the County Road C corridor w�s under study, and the result of that study could have impact on the ultimate deci- sion for retai.l in this area (particularly a� it relates to the market conditions). 2 feel, however, that the shopping center and the new service road concept will benefit the area, and provide a assured left turn access Road C� some six hundred feet westerly of SnelpingtAvenueunty Schroeder 631-0159 H3rry Schroeder, architect and developer of the office park westerly of Hamline, was in with Jack Ocenasek of William Steel and Hardware Company, who are They propo�e to make a minor changerinerthen planned�]Unit Development under which these buildings are b�ing constructed. The change would affect the southwesterly most building, where a pair of 1,000 square foot structures are indicated. The proposal is to substitute one level with basement to a s�lit leve�., resulting in the same squaze footage and parking needs, but a smaller footprint. They request this change, inasmurh as it satisfies a potential user. I suggested that this change was not sYgnificant enough to warzant reprocessing a P,U.D, through the Planning Commission and Council. The nearest development is Goldstein's Senior Citizen's project to the southcaest. C� � � Plannin Office Hour� g July 16, 1986 • Page 3 4. Williams, 636-9000 Cheryl Williams is a realtor with Merrill Lynch, and was in to discuss the potential development of property at the northeast corner of Cleveland and Eldridge. The land has been platted with two 100 foot lots on Eldridge, with a wrap- around lot with a 170 foot frontage on Cleveland and 42.75 feet of frontage on Eldridge. This land had previously been reviewed with the platter of the property, with the intention that there would be a possible further division of one lot, with access via the Eldridge frontage to the rear (north side). 5. Krautbauer, 483-1753 Jim Krautbauer has purchased the beauty shop and residence structure at 165 South Owasso Boulevard. He wants to place a 32 squar� foot sign, twelve feet high, next to South Owasso Boulevard so as to attract attention from Rice Street. We noted that the ordinance requires the sign to be set back thirty feet from the public right-of-way, and suggested that in this case that would be appropriate. There is a service station on the corner to the east, but the structure is located further north than Mr. Krautbauer's building. Thus, the visibility to the site is relatively good. This structure is at the gateway to the residential area `o the west and south, and we suggest that a variance to the setback for a pylon sign would adversely affect the neiqhborhood. 6. Hahn, 605-339-3850 John Buus, a draftsman for the Century Construction Company of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, was in representing George Hahn, who proposes to build a sixty-nine unit economy inn on the easterly portion of the Ruan site at the southeast corner of County Road G and Long Lake Road. He presented a drawing of the proposed building, which looked extremely cheap, with a site plan with absolutely no grass or landscaping except along the south edge of the property �:ontiguous �o the rai --f-=-T-��..::�:, road right-of-way. We indicated to Mr. Buus �hat this quali�y;��_� of d��velopment was totally out of character with the Council's development policy for this tax increment parcel. We further noted �hat subdividing a portion of the 1and, leaving the existing truck terminal facilities, makes the remainder of the land very risky, and less desirable because the westerly portion of the site is more heavily encumbered by power line easements. Mr. Buus notes that Mr. Hahn specializes in developing minimum type facilities at low cost, and has found this profitable. We noted the type of development that had been proposed for this site by the Dillon Inn people, which included a 123 unit, three story motel (a11 brick), and a restaurant, each of which were well planned, and adapted to the site. We suggested this is the type ot development that would be appropriate. � u r � U Plannin Of f ice Hou• g July 16, 1986 4. Williams, 636-9000 Cheryl Williams is a realtor with Merrill Lynch, and was in to discuss the potential development of property at the northeast corner of Cleveland and Eldridge. The land has been platted with two 100 foot lots on Eldridge, with a wrap- around lot with a 170 foot frontage on Cleveland and 42.75 feet of frontage on Eldridge. This land had previous�.y been reviewed with the platter of the property, with the intention that there would be a possible further division of one lot, with access via the Eldridge frontage to the rear (north side). 5. Krautbauer, 483-1753 Jim Krautbauer has purchased the beauty shop and �esidence structure at 165 South Owasso Boulevard. He wants to place a 32 square foot sign, twelve feet high, next to Sauth Owasso Boulevard so as to attract attention from Rice Street. We noted that the ordinance requires the sign to be set back thirty feet from the public right-of-way, and suggested that in this case that would be appropriate. There is a service station on the corner to the east, but the structure is located further north than Mr. Krautbauer's building. Thus, the visibility to the site is relatively good. This structure is at the gateway to the residential area to the west and south, and we suggest that a variance to the setback for a pylon sign would adversely affect the neighbarhood. 6. Hahn, 605-339-3850 John Buus, a draftsman for the Century Construction Company of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, was in representing George �Iahn, who proposes to build a sixty-nine unit economy inn on the easttrly portion of the Ruan site at the southeast corner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. He presented a drawing of the proposed building, which looked extremely cheap, with a site plan with absolutely no grass or landscaping except along the south edge of the property contiguous to the rail- road right-af-way�. We indicated to Mr. Buus that this quality of development was totally out o� character with the Council's development policy for this tax increment parcel. We further noted that subdividing a portion of the land, leaving the existing truck terminal facilities, makes th� remainder of the land very risky, and less desirable because the westerly portion of the site is more heavily encumbered by power line easements. Mr. Buus notes that Mr. Hahn specializes in d�veloping minimum type facilities at low cost, and has fou.nd this profitable. We noted the type of development that had been proposed for this site by the Dillon Inn peaple, which included a 123 un�.t, three stoxy motel (all brick), and a restaurant, each of which were well planned, and adapted to the site. We suggested this is the type of development that would be appropriate. � • Planning Office Hours Page 4 July 16, 1986 • He indicated he would e g t back to his people with our recommendations. 7. Matthews, 483-8917 Mark Matthews, General Manager of Group W in Roseville, was in with John Eddy, their Chief Executive Officer, to review potential expanded uses of the old Owassso School site, which they lease from the School Board. They now have eighty-five persons working in the buil�ling, and anticipate one hundred to one hundred and twenty in the future. Much of the space, they"indicate, is not being used, although the construction operation that was in the building for a considerable time has now phased out. They have a fifteen year lease with two ten year options for renewal. They have other office facilities in Anoka, White Bear Lake, and propos,� their corporate headguarters for Roseville. They now have one hundred thirteen parking spaces, and th� question is where additional parking spaces could be provided to meet their needs. We discus�ed possible locations for additional �paces, suggesting that expansion of the existing lot might be more appropriate than building a new parking space on the east side o� the structure. Zoning regulatians require the processing of a Special U�e Permit if � parking is to be expanded on the site. They are going to considex their needs in greater detail, and px�pare preliminary sketches for review. 8� Holten, 925-5816 Bruc� Holten prc�poses to acquire a.7 acre site at the south- west corner of New Highway 8 and Cour�ty Road D. This site has a residence an it, and is zoned B-3. He propose� to b�ild a"Metro wash" car wash, self-service, twenty-four hours a day, of eight to twelve bays. He has a similar. facility at 2135 Program Avenue in Mounds View, built of "decorated concrete block". A Special Use Permit is required for a car wash. I suggested that this site is th�e qateway to the much larger sites to the south owned by Gec�rge Reiling and �hat, in my opinion, would not be in the City's interest ta have a self- service car wash as the gateway to this I.arge, patentially valuable, commercial area. This is one ot the few large commercia]. sites left in the City, and i feel there will come a time when a large user will �eed the site, and the access conditions to County Road D will be important. We reviewed, with Mr. Holten, other possible sites in the City. L_J � •. Planning Office Hours July 16, 1986 • � LJ Page 5 9. Kydd, 631-0329 Emma Jean Kydd was in t� review the development potential for properties at the northeast corner of County Road B and Eustis. This is a cul-de-sac which offers some potential for additional housing, inasmuch as there is a large site owned by Mrs. Shannon, approximately at the intersection of County Road B and Eustis on the northeast side. We reviewe� possible expansion potential for residential development. She inquired about the possibility of rezoning. We suggested that would be very difficult unless all the land from the east side of Eustis was put together, and a very attractive residential develapment was proposed with support from the contiguous sing].e family owners to the east. W� suggested the area could best remain single family. 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsarorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleve7and Ave. Cohansey Blvd. ��ohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road B2 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:I2 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,I9,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C, I-� :11 E-H:lI L:19 L:12,13 Oraper Ave. ,4,I1�13 Oraper Drive Dunlap SL. �F,(,;Y2 Eldridge Ave. I:5,7.8�IQ-12.1b.18 Elme►- St. J:19,20 Eustis St. E,N:1 Evelyn St. �,;5 Evergreen Ct. �:5 Fairvierr Ave. A-J:6 Fairways Lane I�Z Farrington Ave. I:19 Farrington CT. R;19 FarringtQn St. E•.-D,y,�;lg Farrington Circle F:19 Ferrnrood Ave. I-l;?N Fernraood St. [-�,y; y 1 Fisk St. �;�� Fry St. E-f,t>8 Fulhsm St. �-,y;2 Galtier Circle F:2J Galtier St. '.-O,F,�:19 Garden Ave. K:11.12 Giesman St. I-�;ig Glenhill Road A:10 Glenwood Ave. K:17�1g �luek Lane M;6 G1 uek Lane N d S f�:6 Grandview Ave. G:13-1b,�S-20 Griggs St. �,p;�� Grotto St. �-N;l� Naddington Road H:8 Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Hand Ave. G.I:i9 t�einel Dr. A-D:15-17 Neinel Circle C-16 Herschel Ave. E,H:7 Herschel St. �D:7 Highcrest Road A,6.�,H:1 Nilltop Ave. K-17 Holton St. F:10 Huron Ave. K:11 Nuron St. C-D:11 Hythe St. J:4 Iona Circle C:18 Iona Lane C:S.C,O:16-20 IQne St. l:ll Irene Circle �:Yg Irene Court F:18 Ir�ne S�. E,F.H,I:18 Josephine Rd� 8:11,12 Judith Ave. C:10-33,1 �^ •� Karyl Place 12 � � Kent St. '��-�`�"" '� ' Lake St. •-��"'+�� 17� a� ._ f Lakeview Ave. C,0:13 y�,, Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 '�d� Laurie Raad N:3,8,12 Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Lindy Ave. I�L:12 Litcle &��► RG. �ng LaRe ird. Lonen i�d. Larre: r �6rre. �ydia A�re. Lydia CourC Lyd;e� Or. �fritic�bfe� Sg. 14ansa� St. �pl� Lart� �'a�le Lane CE. �'arion Rd. �'a�ion St. �itilefa Cfrcie �ti�sia 51t. �4cC� rr�n 31 � d . P4. �Ca�r�r� 6Tmd. 5. �"�cCarrons Sc. �4i�l�nc! �r�y�e €�d. �9idl�nd 6ii11s Rd. �idlatiuian Rd. �6�d Q�akS iane �5 �td. �f i 1 dr-�ed 6r. �4f 11oa�d �F�r�. �4fi 11.00cpd � t . 0°Gi 1 to� St. �inrwE�'�Ota �'�1�. �d��dsvie� �ve. �uet Rta4a�e Fd�. Ofanty Plare �OrChviCqr ;t. Qakcres� ��re. {kike��:st lane Old �i�rir9rr�y 8 Orth�rdl l�ne O�o�ssa �1v�. S A,oa�ssa Q�vd. bt Qxfprd St, �'arker 64v�. P�rtridg� Rd. ¢asea] �c. P�tton Ad. R�n��rit*� Ct. Pria�rose Curv� Prior Ave�. Pr4o�- Circle R�raib�er Court F�ea�bler Rd. ftajrmo�nd A�ve. Rice SC. 1�idge+�ood La. N � 5 Ridge++o�d Rd. Ro�aa Ave. Rase Pl�ce �ose l/ista Ct. i�use�dalc Dr, Ros�lawn Ave. Rosewaad La. N b S Rugqi�� St. Rus3e11 Gt. i�: �iy�� A-F:3 J:5 �:13-1b.lE A,�aI,6-14 A:i �-B:14 C O,J,L.i7 �:1 B: a,?.�,20 6:19 H:3 B-Y*1:P6 F:19 B-O,F.Q;:19 J:D8�20 K,t:18-�� -O.M,K:11 hD:� J:3 N-i:8 .9;� �.I�:b 6:T-8+10,13-1� �:d.i9 r�,�y'.:�1y�+ J: j�LO J:IJ A-0:5 G*ii:l4 8:2� E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:1� A-B:1-2 C:14 �-C:1b-20 �-6-1S-1� R.�-F,F9,J.K:13 I:13-15 � : 3=�9 A=�,F#-J:10 �-B:1 iG.l� 0:10 B-G,t-J:S A:5 0:18 D:Id A-� : �# A-L:2� J:� A:9 L;lY-13,16,I9 E.1�2,3-12�15�16�IE L:li J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:AI-13 B:8 Rya� Av�. �� S�n�hurst drive Sars�y Hoak Or. Sextant A�re. Shad�y Beach Sharonda�e Ave. Shelc�n St. Shee�ren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Sic�psons St. Skillcaan Ave. Snelling Ave. Sriell�ng Curve Snel i i ng Ser, . �7r. ii Snell�ng S�rv.Dr. E SmuthF►ill Dr. S.i.H. 35�P S.T.H. 3fi 5.3. �i. 36 Serv. N S.i.H. 36 Sew. S S.7.H 28Q St. Rlbans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. �tanb�idge St. Stat�e Farr.i Road 5tub�er Road .SLi15S1�n1' St. Talisnan Curve Taturn St. ierninal Road Terrate Or. iophill Circle Tranait Ave. Tros�th Rd. Victaria St_ Yirginia Ave. Yirginia Circle k'agener Place 6�agn�r St. 4lalnut St. i�est Perimeter Dr. u'estern Ave. f�estwood Circle Sfewe�s Road Wheat�on Ave. Ithee�er Ave. ilhee'�er St. Wiider St. 6�iil�am St. Killox Circle Willaa Lane tloodbridge Circle Noadbridge Cou►-t i�oodbridge St. WoodC�i 11 Dri ve �ioodlynn Orive itoodruff Ave. rJ:5-7,9-13,17 IH:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 �:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 1:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,15,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:S,fi,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-C3:9 G:18 A-B.4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 8:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C_7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-I4,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 a-K:la J:4 E:20 0:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:12-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K:18 � . � , • July 14, 1986 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, JULY 9, 1986 1. Range. 784-2293 Jim Rang� was in with Judy Trapp, wife of Jim Trapp, with a l�tte� dated .Tuly 1, 198i from Jim Trapp stating: "My recEnt sch�dule re��uires my being out af town. Hc�aus� o€ this, I ha�e given Jarnes E. Rang� full authority to work with Ros@vill� in my bc�hal� to finaliz� a Special �7se P�rmit requ�s�ed for Paul Nalson of Hau1�r"�s Equipm�c�t. Resp�ctfully, Csignt�d) �Jim �'_wpp�� Mrs. Trap�p had a copy of th@ lc�tto� sant by �r�ig wa�dr�n, Qutlinir�g the Pl��ning Commission's aoncc��n� reg�rc�inc� thQ incam�plQti�n of conditions p�eviou�l� appl.is�d ko Sp�c��l �1�Q Pt3L=t113�tS� som� of which go back to th� ini�.�Al ap��ro�al of thQ Cleanco GasalinQ Ser�a��e facili�y in 197�. Sh� al$o hac� a ].ist from her fil�e� datc�d C�c+tobc2r, 1976, which includ�d tw�nty items �he Cit� Council xequired b� done. w� natad that �orn� of �t.hasQ it�ms hava b��n accom�l��hed, but �la�r� r�mains thQ b�sic six it�ms reforrec! to by ti�e Plannin� Comm�issi�n, of which tha r�os� im�ortant i� tho construct�on af �u�rbs on th� poriphery of khe driv�� and p�►rking ar�as. td� braught ou� the original sito plan apprav�sd by t�;� Council, indic�ting these Proposals, � tr►� g�ve tk��r� a redr��cod copy af this �it� plan and �ugg�st�� that th�� prQpare � n�w plan, indicatinc� exac�ly what imprav�m�r�ts th�� propose to ma�ke. w� suggc�st�d th�y get back to ►�s witP� this c3gawing so tha� wQ coulri then d�iscuss a m�ans of guaran��ing tt�at this work b� a�ccomplished. �. Leary, 924-Q601 Jim Lc�ary was in wi�h �ill �cH�le, of Compar��r, and T�m �chraber . Leary an�a Coldw�ll Banker. Th�y w�re in to discuss purct�asing all the land east of Sn��ling the r�sidences in the Bolstad editiat� C Plac� and south of Oakcr�est), the Health S Columbus, and King's Court. They thera p the park tc� the south end of the strip, remainder �or a shogpinq center. Ryan ConstruGtior� S�Y�rabsr a�e ��am the possibiity af Avenue, including east of P�viliom pa, the Knights of ropose to relocate and rezone the � � Planning Office Hours July 9, 1986 • � �_J • eage 2 We They talked about d�rect acc:ess from County Road C. noted that there is a railroad track interveningtthsuggested such access would b� opposed by the railroad. that moving the park would not be in the n�aighborhood interests, and that the redevelopment of land for reta�il pu�poses would pose serioushborhoodms We£suggestedtthe commercial traffic from the neig only way portions of this land could be developed for retail would be if the access to it evolved off County Road B-2 through the pavilion Place site•W�ot�a�l�iseTheycmay be�ebac}� of f Sr�elling or Oakcrest is not with other concepts. 3. Li��. 227-4100 Craig Lien is with the Gannon Corp�cstiCo�por�tion cbuilding with the sale of the P�9S P1ast �20,040 square feet! to Almac ��kscinS+tY:isHear�a�darearur�aex p��riva�t� crossfngs of th� tra� thirty day c�ncellation clause, �nd this is �rea�ing a problem for th� ti�le insurhQ�CitC�could creatQn��pu.bli� propase�i titic. He as}se�i �e �ugg�st�d that thi� wou��.d b� crossing at �this point. inappropriate fQr th� C'iey to �o� . rties�Vsouthn o€�.�+�ha c�os�ing� for acc��s tc� ehosQ p P� �ailroad righ+�-of-�aY. I no�ed, hc�wovar, t�a� i eould s�nd a le�ter +�rut� �ha�, ovc � the ��t many �ears. I ar� ac+�ion on tha pa�t of ths� �eilroad or S�nyon� +�hir�y day ��Ce118t�ian clause�. �incing o�� a ��arQ of no to �t�pt��4 t�e q. Juloni�,�-�la� D�n .3ul�n� t�`:� sar�-�n�-l��r n� ��Q�oo�s��Q'�i�,�h�s hou�cs�en� land owr�ot �iao l�vod e� 30�6 Sho �pragerty is zQnae� �-2, 8ntl was a��ravc�� or division at ane� timQ. No accur�� lec��]. surv�y1��r�ea�d�d�l�hThc� �r�bl�m divi�sion �� 3and was r�ever prc�ar �► �r��@, �5 t�'1i�� c��S, C��C��.C, dCiVL3W�jr, SS,1,�Rt�11�,n� �41, �1 s��►er, �r�d water �rc� not s��ar�te fo� ��ct� un�.t�. Ur�cic� thQse cir�wnstances, we su�gQs� thaa� �ir. �ulot� divido the �ancl +�nc�� ti�e C�ando I.aw, ��1�� l��rdoosQnat� hamdlo Gammon and jvint �aciliti�e�. �his w�l�, �nd the City d��s r�q�iof t�}srt�e.�Q�c��g�in� �atEr services for duplmx l�t spli to proce�d with tha� suc�gest�.�in� � • ��r'dl�n f ( / �'7 I �N �on R�9an, his son-in-law H�c�9r �'�nton, Mike McKim, fitt�rney, Charlie Pt►eit�r� R�altar, �nd Hruce Va�H�rn �wer� in to discuss cons�.d�ration� r��&ti�g tO gnorth@for��Pr�.c� of tk�e �t@�an si�e and the propertY �o t3�� Saver's Aisco�unt StQr�. Pric�c��Comt �,ny��ou��o�f Cincinnati@ City, and is owned by� the Kray P C� � � � Planning Office Hours July 9, 1986 Page 3 We reviewed criteria, including the dedication and extension of the public street on the east side of the property to the north, provisions for new public sanitary sewer service (probably best in the public right-of-way) and provisions for storm sewer requiring internal drainage to skimmers and treatment prior to dumping into County Ditch Q. kle not�d the r�quirem�n�s and r�ed for pe�mits from Rice Cr�ek Watersh�d. w� disaussed th� progr�ss of the d�cisfon regarding overall lan�i us�, n�ting the timetab��e o� oth�r applications in the ar�a. Th�y ��cpr�ssed a cAnc�rn abo�� ot having enough land to provi,cte for a 106,Q00 square f�ot buil�in� with the 800 paarkinc� sp�ces th�y d�sir�. Som� �►f th+� inte�estin�g sspects of the bu�iness includr th� ne�d for great�� parking ca�pac�ty because of the longer staying eimc� per cus�omer. '�heir bui�lding cos�s ara about S�q p�r .�quar� foat, at�d anticipa�� they wi�l bQ ab�out �2Z a s�quarc� @�ot �� ti�nQagolis w,�th a hi�hQ� c�ual,�ty �ui�din�4 �'heir cus�toma�� arc� on � rn�nc�brar�hip basis, and thQy note ��,�at as a rAst�lt, +�hcay ha�v� v�r� li�tl� ��rin.� or had �hc��cB��. Tt�afr �hr�e�.k t 1o�s Qf morchar di�� and nonp�y►mQ��t � i� .�� o�e g�rcc�n�. "�hQ,�r ��or� c��r�es 4,�Oa �epa�ata ��ms ca�nparotl �c� a �up�rma�kc�t'� 54r000 i�c�r�►.�. �`h�� pro�a�� r��arc ��e��in��' R�ana� �ar p��trpa�a� a�� aa��sis of sit� ��s�r�e��. 6. ��ul��1�e� 4��-��1 h�� 5t�. n��+�� ropo�� to d�vl�a �a�o la�� n�o �h�a� ].�t� fo� Fr��r��e� �� u��r�e��t �a�nc�r c�� i��v�l� S+trQer� �►n� Vi�tQria. ��+��l,l ��r�s� �� not �ully� d�d��ecrd �t �h�a p�iar�, �ah�c� e��s �� oble��n.� �n��rucP� a�s t�h��+� �� hou�a �� p�z�� +to 1� va�� e�� r� �hQ c�xi��a�� qh�- Q�` �wa�► 1 ina . h�ortQ �� th�� c�r� b� ��cu��+t�l� a�cga�t�in�� ar�,tha�� u��Qy. �� w�z �u�g��+��d �h�t tha�p ��o��Qd t� ��+�i�ce� � ��a�� nd �har, ct�e��in� �ra��k�le w�y� �r� �rP��ch �n �d��i��l �.�� u�.�3 �u �r�r��t�c�. The�� pp��rs to l�z ��►ou�h �oa�n� but �h+�rQ msy � prc�b�Qrns �i�h dedie�tiar� of ri�ht-af-a��c� t�� i�au��.� Strc7�t . 7� �L�, ��uui�� 6�1-75Qf? 3im i��gerqu�sc o�rn� a� �r�po��+ �onod dupl�� a+� �088� �r� Stro�t, whi�h bQler�c�ed to lyi� �a�re��ts a�nrl w�s �u�lt ir� 195�. I�lthcaugt� it is ��oned �or tw�4 units, thQ �tructurc� rras bui�t i�r iiii�t.'—. i.i:4 +�� aL� �i,.�.,�'.r +�4��.'-ti �hd� ��ii.i7 �i��. ��`a�.•�r �.Lr�vi2 to l�gali�� the thircl �nit on the �ita. '�e noted tt�a� �ha m�thod wou1�3 bc� to �e�or�� th� lansl ro R�,;, whi�h allaws a� p�rmitted �ses three o� four uni� buil�ir�gs. 4�� suggest�d h� r�view this groposal with h,�s neighbors, and fil� th� appropriate r�zoraing and l�nd us� change r�quest. • , Planning Office Hours ' July 9, 1986 Page 4 � 8. Mosher, 484-5310 Orvin and Josephine Mosher were in to discuss the possible division of their land east of Dale Street, southerly of Sextant Avenue. We hav� discussed this development proposal with them before, which xequires cooperation and approval of contiquous prop�rties in the area. We sugg�sted they contact ti�es� p�opl�, and sulamit a joint pro�osal for the extensian of a p+�b�ic str�c�t c�ast�rly fro�n Dale S�r�ot as has bean �r�vi�ag�d f�r mar,y ye8rs�. �1e discuss�d �r�ys in whi�ch portions of thQ str�et might ixi built in �he c�vent that �hose to �th� east may not wi�h to d@vslop or su,bdivic�@ at �this time. 9. Co��sm�th. �57-�ill_ �oQ ancl Col�oen Coppersmith wQ�e in tn d�$cuss �th� divisiort of their p�oper�y in+�o thraa �ots. �'hia ��opc�r�� is Lot 3 o� a�l�rao ;lor� division ��hat� wss ap�rovad by trie Cou�tc�11 on F�ebru�►r� �3, 1��78, T`��aX na�r wish to div�dc� �ehe �third lo� �r�ta t0��+�� pro�rt�as, which can acco��t�ed exactly es �Qn+�Qmp�,a�Q�l when �he c�rigin�l d�e��s�on w�s doncc ;�n 197�. lOr �,��t 98�-�968 �oan C�p .a�� an�w�lta� Bu�r��n Cb�e�� nc� sista�� aa�� in �o �i��e�ss �hs �ss�b1Q �d�visi4� of �hQi� �an�! no�c�h o� � Ce�u�+�y Road E�, +��d wQg�c��y a� V,��t�or�a� 1�v�nuc�� Tt�i� ��o��y ha�s a��4 a 7� �Qe�� a� ��ntaga on Cou;nt� Ra�� B� a.nd �u�� a�p►�� o � a�ag��y d�v��b�c� b� th� con��ru��iar� o� a �o��h/�ro°��h ��ul-de-sac an th4 a�st�r��y p�ap�rty 1�1�� o� �h�� p►�o�a��. '�"his �tou�ci op�n up �he �e�r o� la�s wh�ch �avc� a d�tp+�h o� ��.3� �c��t a�Q�t o� V�,c�orl�. 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B:11 ,�F�,1.,ham St. Belmont Lane I:10�,��,�.�.�t�ea.,Rr Circle • Bismarck Ave. G:16 � -�:-.,.-..�.�,.,�.--•�M:.�.w--��.. ie Bossard Dr. H:18 G rd 4..v,v . Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,1 G es�5"'� ,. Brenner Court "` G1 ' oad Brenner St. `�.:.d G nwood Ave. Brooks Ave. �°� F:7;&,�1 -,18-19 uek Lane Brooks Circle F:19 luek Lane N& S Bruce St. F:7,8 iew Ave. Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q �� Gri s.St. Capitol View Gr o t. Capitol View Cir Ha n n Road Carl i sl e Ave. • �'� Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Hand Ave. Center St. K:20 Heinel Dr. Chandler St. K:17 Heinel Circle Chats��orth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. �ivic Center Or. D:12 � Highcrest Road Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 ,� Hilltop Ave. Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;6: �� r''`� Ho�ton St. �Cohansey B'��d�`�o'" �� Huron Ave. Cohansey S�""��r E Huron St. Colonial �r. G:10 ��'°` Hythe St. Commerce St H:9,10 Iona Circle Cope Ave. G:15,16 tona Lane County Road 6 H:1-20 Ione St. County Road 62 F:5-20 Irene Circle County Road C D:1-2U Irene Court County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. Crescent Lane I:1F3 Judith Ave. Christy Circle E:11 Karyl Place Dale Court K:16 Kent St. DsTe St. C-L:16 Lake St. Dellwoed Ave. C,I-!:11 Lakeview Ave. Oellwood St. E-H:11 Larpenteur Av2. Oionne Ave. L:19 Laurie Road Dionne St. L:12,13 Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. ,4,11,13 Little Bay Rd. A:�-7,18 � Long Lake,Rd. A-F:3 ,F,L:12 } � :5 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 ��I�� :13-16,18 J:19,20 "`�'�"L�i��a`�4ve'� ;6:1,6-14 E,N:1 Ly�ia Couri A:1`" A:5 Lydia Dr. A-6:14� �.5 Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 '�t � A-J:6 Manson St. B=1 I:2 Maple Lane 6:1,7,8,20�--�- � L�°°--� I:19 Maple Lane Ct. B:19 �lg Marion Rd. �3 � B-D,H,L:19 M r� B-I;�{�:20 F:19 M��i� 9� I -L :11 M�=1�da :.St:-�-.As , G :19 C-E,H:11 McCarron Blvd. N. . -ZO E:15 McCarron Sl��d. S. K,L::18-20 E-F,I:8 McCarrons St. B-D,I?�11 �_�:2 Midland Grove Rd. H:4 , F:20 Midl d Hills Rd. J:3 ;� B-D,F,L:19 Mid t i d. !i-I:8'" K:11,12 Oak La & J;8 =+� I-J:I9 red�° . A,8:6 �� A:10 �""`:_.`"....:""..�'-� d . � 6:7-8,10,13-15 �.�° K:17,18 Millwoo t. � B:1,19 ,� H:6 Milton St. A,H,:14 �' N:� Minr�e.sota Ave. G:18-20 G•13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. J:17 � C,D:12 Mc�unt Ridge Rd. E-H:15 Nancy Place � : H:g Northview St. 6:20 A-L:10 Oakcrest AvQ. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 G,I:19 Oakcrest Lane E:19 A-D:15-17 Old �iighway 8 A-B:1-2 C-16 Or�hard Lane C:14 E�y:� Owasso Blvd. S A-C:16-20 �:� Owasso Blvd. W A-B:15-16 A,6,G,H:1 Oxfor A,C-F,H,J,K:13 K-17 �� -id+■i r� A� I:13-15 F:10 idg��t B:3-4 K:11 t �� A-F,H-J:10 C-D:11 Patton R . �-B�1 J:4 Pineview Ct. K:16 C:18 Primrose Curve D:10 C:5,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. B-G,I-J:5 L:11 Prior Circle A:5 C:18 Rambler Court D:18 F:lg Rambler Rd. D:10 E,F,H,I:18 Raymond Ave. A-B:4 B:11,12 Rice St. A-L:2R C:10-13,i8 Ridgewood La. K& S J:8 I:12 Ridgew�od Rd. A:9 B,D,J,L.:17 Roma Ave. L:11-i3,16,19 J:2 Rose P1ace E:1,2,7-22,15,16,18 C,D:13 Rose Vista Ct. L:11 1;11-2�J Rosedale Dr. J:3 H:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. J:2-14,17 A-C-12 Rosewood La. {� & S J:3-4 I,L:22 Ruggles St. K:11-13 Ftussell Ct. 6=8 1� ; � ... h� �� n � kyan Ave. . J 5=7,9-1.3,17� a� ��'��'� kY Sandhurst D : H:10-12,14,15';�7�;�9 ¢�a� Sandy Hoak Dt, � A:17 �°��>� - Sextant Ave. F:9,10,12,15,16918 ' `�� Shady 8each K:20 Sharondale Ave. I�5 n St. B,D,F:10 �Sh 'r St. H:11--15 Sf�ew od Cv. & La. A:� hry Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 im sons St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 Skillman Av�, J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Snelling Ave. A-J=9 Snelling Curve E-F:9 Snelling SerN.Dr. W B-��$ Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 Southhill Dr. G:1$ S.T.N. 35W A-B:4; G-H:1-4 S.T.H. 36 G-H:1-20 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 St. Croix G,N:2 St. Stephens St. H:2 Stanbridge Ave. B=7-$ Stanbridge St. A:1 State Farm Road H:9 Stuber Road K:16 .Summer St. K:12 Talisman Curve D:10 Tatum St. J�6 Terminal Road F:1-3 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseth Rd. 8�1-2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virginia Ave. C-D:19 Virginia Circle F:19 Wagener Place k;20 Wagner St. K:17-19 Walnut St. E-H:1 West Perimeter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. B-K:18 Westwood Circle J:4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 Wilder St. R,I:5 William St. I,J:19 , Willow Circle E:I1 Willow Lane E:11 Woodbridge Circle G:20 Woodbridge Court L:20 ,� � • r -1 � ��'�"�" ' , , � , Woodruff Av�.g�, �'�,�g+lC:18 �t'�.�Ci � . K d ; r .�. � Jul 9 1986 � Y . T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgreri SUBJECT: PLANNTNG OFFICE HOURS, JULY 2, 198b n � 1. Olschlager, 339-4200 Gordon Olschlager is an architect with Korsunsk�, Krank, and Erickson, who was back with Rick Johnson, of the J. R. J�hnson Supply Company, wi.th revised site plans for the expansion and redeveiopment of portions of the J. R. Johnson site between 35W and Long Lake Road, south of the tracks. Tha.s is a case of good news and bad news. The good news is that they are proposing removal of some af the ext�nsive plastic coverzd greenhouses, and replacing them with permanent structures. Substantial improvements to the si.te in the form of landscaping, curbing, and finishing of parking areas are proposed as welle The entire south elevation of the structure will eith�r be new �uilding or refinisl�ed surface. The bad news is that if this land is ultimately included in a major City redevelapment plan, the Cit�r may be purchasing higher priced structures. Our approach to �his has been to recommend quality material, and a level of investment that represents a substantial increase in the quality of the ap�,earance, but without going to the finest ma.terials ( such as k�rick ) . The material proposed is exposed aggregate finish, �imilar to that which has been used frequently by the Target people around the country. We suggested additional landscaping in parts of the site, and noted that the roof sic�n, currently on the rr�of �acing 35W, would have to be removedo The unsightly vacant area on t�he east side of the building ��ill be surfaced, curbed, and landscaped with a twenty-five foot set- back ayong the service road west of 35W. Application appJ.ied for will Permit for site plan approval, for referral on July 14. be approval of a Special Use which should go to the Council 2. Holter, 489-7132 John and Marsha Holter were in to ciicuss the div,ision of their land to provide a new 65 foot 1ot on the south end o� their property, fronting on Dalp Street. It appears the unique topography here dictates a unique divisiori of the land. We suggested they verify this topography on their drawir_gs so that the proposal can be more fairly evaluated. � This will be a lot split proposal, dividing the existing lot into two lots. They will be back next week with more precise plans. . Plannin Office Hours g July 2, 1986 � Page 2 3. Fiall, 489-1391 Reverend Hall. i� a representative of a church group which built their headquarters at the northwest corner of Garden and Lexingtona The building is nearing completion, and they are now dealing with the final landscape plans. Nlr. Hall noted that two of the elms have died and have been rei�noved, ana we approved their replacement with either ash, linden, or red maple. They have met directly with the contiguous neigh- bors including Ullas Kamath, who lives on Ruggles Street to the north. They proposerl a change in the fence proposal, somewhat - different frotn what was approved. V�e suggested. if they get their nei.ghbor's writ�ten approval, that such adjustments could be considered. � 4. Antanossi Bill and Dorothy Antonossi were in with Jim Perry, realtor (780-550Q), to review possible land uses f�r the Antonossi property north of County Road C-2, at the east end of the row of residences easterly of new Highway 8. We revie�aed the land use plan which includes this pro;perty as high density, multi-family as requested by those r�sidential owners at the time the Comprehensive Plan was redone in 1979. We suggested that the appropriate way to go is to get all the neighbars to agree, and find a developer to take over the entire project, as we explained has happened in other parts of the City. We suggested against a l.�roposal which would develop a part of the Antonossi land but not include the house. That simply makes the prob].em worse, making it more difficult to redevelop all the land because riow we would have anothen c�use on a small lot. They understood all this, and will be talking to some of the other neighbors. We suggested that if the time is not right for the change, they may wish to sell to someone wY�o is willing to wait. We noted that if all the landowners were in agre�ment, that the land use might be changed to offic�es or an institutional u.�e, which would be compatible with the apartments to the north, and the industrial land to the south (vacant land owned by Williams Pipeline Company). 5. Lewis, 636-2068 Robert Lewis owns two parcela of land south o� High�aay 36, between Marion S�reet �nd Ac��rn Street. The southerly �nost parcel is a 200 by 200 foot square, which has existed as a separate landlocked parcel for many years. This land, and much of the land around it, was once owned by Robert's faiher-in-law, Earl Schneider. They progose now to build a home on the landlock�d parcel. � Planning Office Hours July 2, 1986 Page 3 � A public street could be cQnstructed into the int�rior of this large b�ock, although it would not be worth it for the sake of a�ingle lot. Mr. Lewis informs us that other land- owners in the area do not wish to further divide their land. We suggested that a private road easement be considered in this unusual case, which w� suggested be thirty feet in width �o as to form half of a future public str�et if , at sorne pc,int in the more aistant future, other landowners may wish to subdivide into smaller parcels. - 6. Trautz, 332-6039 which John Trautz is a representative of the Shelard group, most of us know as the developers of the Shelar�d Park complex at the northwest corner of County Road 18 and Trunk Highway 12 in St. Louis Park. eSthcorner�of1Transit�anduRiceSStreeta property at the southw The property runs from Transit to County Road B, was planned and platted, but never developed. We encouraged them to conside� the development of this parcel inasmuch as the Shel.ard group are capable and imaginative developers. When last approvec� ba W�s owned�by Dr�e1Houset aawell known years ago), the lan hand surgeon who lives on Gluek Lane. � 7. I�arnmacher, 349-8916 Jeff Narnmacher and Ken Blodgett of Coldwell Banker, rep�esenting ZLZ Partnership, were in to propose a fast food addition �o the retail building site directly east of Red Lobster, north of Trunk Highway 36. � Examining the existing layout, we concluded that such an additian would result in a serious parking shortage. We suggested tY�at converting all or pori:ions of the site to restaurant use may be appropriate, and was recommended by the City when the building was initially constructed. Therefore, they may pursue the conversion of a portion of�ft�he recently to restaurant gurposes. We gave them a copy amended restaurant pneedsgwithlrespect�tossuchala p�ssible calculating parking conversion. 8. Hunt, 340-5592 Penny Hunt, an was in with Jim Development south attorney with Doughtery, Rumble and Butler, Salzl from the Vi11a Park Senior Citizen's of County Road B, easterly of Dale Street. They are proposing to file condominum documents for the first phase of the project only, consisting of sixty units. They, therefore, wish to subdivide the land for this purpose. They also suggested that they may �ttempt to convert theested�that of the development into a rental project. We sugg the combination of these two in a single structure might prove difficult. They asked that the subdivision regulations be waived under �'se:tion 462.358 (4B) of Minnesota Statutes. • � P1 � anning Office Hours July 2, 1986 i Page 4 We suggested that the division of the land for this purpose could b� a matter of serious concexn and, in my opinion, a lot split should be properly processed with the appropriate public hearings. We suggested they could discuss this with the City Attorney, in consideration of the legal elements. In my experience, such divisions for mortgage purposes staged. through a P.U.D. are processed as a plat or a Iot division. . OI N 3I20 A � 3000 I B � �I � � C� 760 / , o� , 2640 :_iu1 --� E :a:a — ' _� � F I � � :.� o� ., G' zsso yl H u ,o ( ' I' 2040 �I. I 1 1 J � f 920 �1{` `�1 I N��1 N � ml � ., �, � / w ---�/�a7V _ � + / / ' 3 / �. �'+' ac~�/� � B:lr . 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsviorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. �Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 B:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:l F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K_17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 N:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-! :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Faivways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. 4,11,23 �L•12 I-5,7,8,10-12,15,18 J:19,20 �,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-3:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-�_2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-ZO C,D:12 E-N:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-0:15-17 C-16 E,N:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:27 J:2 C,0:13 i ;i�-za N:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,L:12 Little Bay Rd. Long LakE Rd. Loren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Haple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Flatilda St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S. NkCarrons St. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Hi11s Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mid Qaks Lane b Rd. Mildred Or. Mi7lwood Ave. Mi�l�rc�d St. Milton St. Mi��resota Ave. Moundsview Ave. Mount Ridge Rd. Nancy Place Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. S Owasso 81vd. W Oxford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N � ' Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Rosedale Or. Roselawn Ave. Rflsewood La. M � S Ruggles St. Russell Ct. � A:17,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-8:14 C D,J,L�17 B:1 B:1,7,8,20 6:19 H:3 6-I,L:20 F:19 B-O,F,G:29 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,B:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 8:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A- D: 5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-B:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 B:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:l K:15 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 0:10 A-B:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 B:8 icyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hook Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Sf�orewood Cv. & La. Sf�ryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. S�elling Ave. S�nelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Or. E Southhill Dr. S.T.N. 35W S.T_H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.7.H. 36 Serv. S S.T_H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave_ Stanbridse St. State Farm Road 5tuber Road .Sumner St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. �Iheeler St. 5�ilder St. William St. Nillow Circle Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Woodbridge Court Woodbridge St. Woodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. � _:;�� ,/,9-13,17 , 12,14,15,17,19 A. �: .- ; F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-ZO G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 a:i H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:l-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:21-14,17-1.8 A:9-I0,13,14,19,20 K:18 i ; �: • ;,..� � ;.- ; • July 8, 1986 � � T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 25, 1986 1. Kayo Oil Com anv, 615-756-5770 Phillip Beard is a development representative of the iCayo Oil Company, which owns the JET station at the northwest corner of County Road C and Snelling Avenu�. Kayo Oil Company is a subsidiary of Conoco, which in turn is a subsidiary of the Dupc�nt Company. Kayo Oil Company operates ou� of Chatanooga, Tennessee, ar3 markets gasoline under �he "JET" nam� or "Kayo" Oil Company name. The site measures 200 feet (east/w�st) by l73 fe�t (north/south) on the west side, and 185 �eet (north/sou�h) on the east side. It was formally planned to be ult�.mat�ly acquired by MN Dot, and incorporated into the �aropexty ne�ded for the construction of a future in�erchange a� County �oad C and Snelling. Now that the State has c3�cided not to construct this interchange�, they are aw�re that r�der�elopment of the site is in order. Phillip Beard, thereEore, propo�ed a�reliminary plan to construct a new service station nearer the northw�st corner of the site, adding n�w pumps and a canopy oyer the pumps, which he proposed to put over a twenty foat storm ��ewer ease� ment. This twenty-four inch sto�m sewer was constructed either by the County or l�i Dot, and passes in a southwesterly direction through the site. we noted tha� it would be inappropria�e to construct any structures on the storm sewer, due to a possible future need to repai�c o� repla�e the line, This site is v�ry large for the siz� of the �tat�on proposed, and we noted that this being one o� the better corner red�- velopment si�es in the City, that the k�est int�rests of K�yo Oil and the City might be to combine this prop�rty with the remaind�r of the land to be released, so as to accommodate a more intensive, efficient and, hopefully, profitable develop- ment. We previously discussed the prospects of combining this property with the Slawik land with Mrs. Slawik two weeks ago. We sugqested that Mx, �eard contact the Slawik folks, with the intent of making some reasonable arrangemer�t for a cooperative, more intensive development of the site. We noted that a service station can be incorporated into an e:fficient hotel, office structure, restaurant, or other potential Gom- mercial uses on the site efficiently, and that we l�ad done this on previous sites in the past. �. • Planning Office Hours June 25, 1986 Page 2 � Mr. Beard indicated that he would review this prospect with his superiors in Chatanooga. He agreed that this possibility should be explored. We emphasized the potential mutual bene- f its for property owner and the City alike. � � A question of full movement access off County Road C becomes important as the prospects for increased traffic on County Road C materialize. We predict that County Road C will ultimately be constructed with medians in its full length, with left turn access at intermittent points which may or may not allow for such access directly to the Kayo Serv�.ce St�tion site. 2. Pope, 291 8$94 Bob Pope, Architect, was in with Bill Yager, President of Kraus Anderson Construction Company, and Don Regan, owner of the St. Paul and Suburban Bus Company site north of County Road C, westerly of Sttelling Avenue. We reviewed with Mr. Pope, (who is the prospective architect on the site), and his colleagues, the dev�elopment criteria and procedures whi.ck� would include a change in land use, zoning, and a specia.l use permit for site plan approval under the B-9 District. We noted �hat a deadline of ►7uly 9 would apply for the submission of a�propriate drawings and docu- ments, preliminary to the coi7d�ct of hearing before the Planning Commission at its August 6 meeting. l�av� Janisch reviewed tre proposed imp�ovements and requ�.re- ments for �asements with respect to County Ditch 9. Their surv�y indicated the ditch �asement to be ten f�eet westerly of their wEsterly property line. It appears, however, that the east edqe of the drtch is approximately ten f�et within the west prop�rty lin�. In any case, it app�ared not to be � significant probl�m inasmuch as �the n�w requ�sted easement would likely not b� beyond the existing �itch �xcavati�on near the w�est side of thc R�gan property. We stress�d the importance af maintaining the public str�et right-o£-wa� on th� east side of the property and extending it to the north property line, so as to provide for a future potential crossing on Count� Ditch 4 and a connection to the cul-d�-sa�c to khe north. This would provide a means for ultimately �rea�ting a khrQugh circul�tion pattern thraugh the center of the 160 acres originally part of Gluek Farm I�o. 2. Som� concexn was expressed as to whet�her or not Price Saver (a division of Kroger Corpoxation) will want to locate on �.his sit�� knowing that Costco is propos�ng a site further to the west. We feel �hat two such sites in Ro��ville will provide for bett�r merchandising, and expand the trade area more e£fectively, rather than locating one of the stores in a eonti�uous community. � l�J • Planning Office Hours June 25, 1986 Page 3 3. Ruan, 546-4755 Carl Rosen, realtor with Meadow Brook properties out of Minneapolis, was in with Walter Miller, real estate represen- tative of Red Roof Inns out of Halliard, Ohio (614-876-3312). Red Roof Inns is a privately held mo�el chain consisting af 170 Inns, totaling 17,Q00 rooms, developed over the last fourteen years. They are reported to be number two behind ALQ in the mid-range motel market. They are in Chicago, �lashington, Bostan, Charlotte, Dallas, and ather places. Annual income is $131 million, with an average occupancy rate of 87.2 percent. Mr, Miller reports that high quatity is maintained by an impromptu inspection four times a year of 270 items. Thes� inspectors op�rate out of the home office and come unannoun�ced, If more than ten percent ot t2xese items are found defective, the manager and his assistant lase their Christmas bonus �it's a tough world out there). Walter Millex is interested in developing the Ruan site, consisting of 4.88 acr�s, pxeviousl� proposed to be developed by Di11an Inn. we reviewed previous plans for this site, suggestinq to Mr. Miller that th�s site would ind�ed be a successful site for their kind o� aperation. We furnished Mr. Mil�er with a copy af the Laventhal & Horwath report, which c�efines a market for thi� type of motel in Rosevill�. Mr. M�.1].er not+�s that they hav� already established motels ir� �urnsville and Woodbury, and desire to locate i� RosevilleW This site ��as previaus��r pxaposed for 138 rooms k�y the �?illon people, with a contiguous resta►ur�ant. 9. Salzl, 339-6122 Jim Salz� is witt� th� Housing Alli�an�e D�velopment Company, anrl was in to inq�cire about the transfer of �i�l� Qf a portion of land as agreed up�n to the City for park purpasess We noted tha� this could be dQne by deed, and would not require a lot di�risior�. Thc�y are alsa to f�axnish �� the City a skorrn sewer ea�s�m�nt witM a r��.ocat�d pipe system going through t�he prop�rty. Th� first ghase consis�s of sixt�r uni��, and th�y� are cont�mplating the possibility of �he ��maini.r�g thirty-nine units in the seconel phas� being rental ra�her than condo. This brings u� �he probaem of eiividing the land b��reen th� cawt�ership b�r th� Cando Association and thc deveiop�r, if the remaind@r are rental. I suqg�sCed that this could get rather complicat�d in terms o� who is p�oviding what services, and what happ�ns if ax�e ar the ather go�s bankrupt. I suggesteci their attorne�r talk to th� City Attorn�y regardir�g t�chniques for handiing this passible combination. It would appea�r to us that � g.U.D. and a lot �tivi�i�� would be required. � Mr. Salzl noted th�y have no� mad� a d�cision to go rental on the second phase. I sugg�sted �hey not do that, and eliminate the complicated process and effect inhexent in this combinatican within a single struc��r�. Plannin Office Hours � g Page 4 June 25, 1986 � We also discussed the landscape plan for the site as revised by the Council, with a sixty foot setback rather than the fort� feet previously proposed. We suggested that their landscape architect contact us regardinq their pla� so that this can be a�pxopriately reviewed. 5. Brass, 731-1�57 Dwzght Brass lives in Little Canada, and is lookinq for a site in Roseville to eith�r buy, or purchase a home. H� inquired as to th� possibility of redeveloping a single family hom� si�e nor�h�rly of Roselawn and west of Lexingto� Avenue £or tawnhouse purposes. This st�ange lot is about 87 fe�t wid�, and about 600 feet d�ep. W� suggc�t�d that this lot b� itself would not be appropriate f or redev�lopment far �ow�house purposes. Tt app�ars, ha�- ev�r, tha� this lot in �ombination wfth t�o larger lots to the south could b� furth�x d�v�laped with �ingl� f�nily 1ots. He p�oposes nat ta pursue this possibility, but will look else�h�re im th� City. 6. Go�do�. 4�3-17�7 Ruth Gordon �ives wi�h ��r husband st 543 Hein�l Driv�, and pr�Pfl�e� to �ut a sm�ll addition on her house which wil� �equi�� s�o��line deveiopm�nt �Fpro�al. The �xisting ho�se � is s�v�n f�� £rom t�e si�� rop�rty line, so that a mino� v�ri�nc� m�� proce�s�d to ��k� th� house aut of th� non- conforming �1�ss. Th�y also propos� to build a new �2 by 22 €oot garage thir��- six f��t �auth �� th� Heine� Driv� raadway. This gara�e 1oca��on will �equir� � vari�nce, �nd m�y b� process�d ca�cu�r��tl� with th� sida ��rd variance and sho��lin� d�vQl�pm�nt agproval. W� sugg��ed a mar� accurate sca�� drawing of th� site and pro��d d�v�l��ant �� ropar�d for reivew thraugh t�e miner v��ianG� process. ?. eatt�sta� 481-��?8 D�bora B�t� s��d�s i� to t�qui�� about th� possibili�y of th� dev�lopme�t o� t�� 1� cri�asso School sike on th� ��t�rn shor� pf Lak� Owas�4 own�d �y �r, Schust�r, th� foxm�r own�r and op�ratmr of t�� Gak�vi�w Nur�ing Hom�. Th� school is r�l�t�v�ly s��ll, consistin� of ap�roximat�ly 4,000 sg�ar� fe��• �s. B�ttisto inqu�red �bout �he po�sibility ot co�verting �� to a mul�i-�amily dw�Iling. w� sugg�st�d tha� the use pro�ased b� Mr. Schust�r ov�r a long periad a� �im�, tha� �� a�e�ior ci�i�en's series of housing �nits built low t� �h� g�ound with n�w c�nstruction, m3ght be ap�r�priateo w� expr�ssed cancern about th� accept- � ability of more ar less typical multi-family housing struc- tures on th� sit�. Th� lan� is indicat�d as low density residen�ial on th� Compr�hensive Plan, and i� zoned single famiy. Mr. Schuster has sold �he nursing home, although h� has apparently r�tain�d titl� to the school site. • � n LJ s Planning Office Hours June 25, 1986 C� Page 5 8. Mosher, 484-5310 Orvin and Josephine Mosher propose to divide their 150 foot width 1ot f ronting on Dale Street, slightly north of County Road B-2. To the north of them, there is a thirty foot wide strip of land extending east/west from Dale Street to the next contiguous �.ot. This thirty foot strip was left as the northerly half of a potential street which could be extended easterly from Dale Street to open up a series of ten lots. This was done about fifteen �ears ago when the Bancon people platted some of the lats in th� area. We discussed with Mr. and Mrs. Mosher the gossibilities of dividinq their land to include this stre�t which could be constructed and financed by the City. Their property is 32U feet deep, and thus would provide for three lots rathe� than two. We suggested a survey should be prepared of the site, to include th� location of the existing home. It appears t}�e land could be divided into two long lots, the northerly on� which might be in the vicinity of 70 feet by 320 feet depth. Ob�iously, this is a strange lot suqgesting tY�at the pzoperty might well be better divided into thr�e north/sQuth lots, �ach approximately 100 to 120 f eet in w�.d�i� , wi th a depth of 1� 2 � f eet . The Mosher' s express�d irrtere�t in this ca�nc�pt, and are going to hire a surveyor ta rewiew th�se �assibilites and will be back to the staff to discuss the op�ions. We sugqestsd �h�y contiact their neighbors at the appropriate time to disc�rn t1�e interest of those who might be interested in pursuing th� t�n lo� subdivision th�t would be possible. ��ie al,�o note�l tha� if othexs a►re not interested at this time, t�he lar�d might be p�atted i� a fashion so as to provide for th� future �x�ensian of this ro�draay rather than divide the prop�r'ty in tw� lonq �.hin lats, thereby making it extremely difficult to �ve� ex�en�d t�e street easterly as would be possible now. 9. Vision World, �36-0629 Russell Trenhehm� and h��= wi,f�, Takako, are the owners of Vision Wor�d, an �ye glass servic� currently consi�ting of twenty�one stor�s, of which £ifteen are in the metropolitan area. Their number one store in the area, in which they produce most of th� glasses, is in Roseville. The store consists of 2,300 square feet in the Fairdale Shoppes, and their production facilities consist of 7,000 square feet �.n the basement of that b�ailding. They note that about fifty percent of tha:t sp�ce �.s of f ices , tweraty��f ive percent f or productian of the Pye glasses, and twenty-five percent for storage. • � u • Pl.ax�ning Of f ice Hours �une 25, 1986 Page 6 There apparently have been four phases of expansion of this development in the basement. The expansion included instal- lation of petitions, electrical wiring, air conditioning, and required exits, over a period af years. Building permits for this work have been applied for and received. The property is zoned B-1-b, which allows retail sales and service in structures over 10,000 square feet. The production of eye glasses (optical equipment) is not a permitted use in the B- 1-b District, although such services could be provided in conjunction with service to a single store as normally ancillary to the retail service. They note that there are twenty-five to thirty employees, but, that in their opinion, there is not a parkinq problem at the shopping center. We noted that the original center design did not contemplate such operations in the basement, but was calculated on the basis of storage use. The Fire Marshal has inspected the site, and made recommendations for compliance which we understand, by and large, have been accommodated. Strictly speaking, it would appear that the operation as conducted is not a permitted, accessory, or s�ecial use. It would appear, however, that its continuance does not constitute a hazard or deleterious effect on the public good. 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsrrorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. �Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court t�ale St. Dellwood lkve. Dellwaod St. Dionne Ave. Dionn� St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,�:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:lI K:16 C-L:16 C,I-! :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herscnel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Aue. Lindy Rve. � ,4,11,I3 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,I6,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 B:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 Y;I1-2Q H:3,8,12 A-l:12 I,�:12 Little Bay Rd. Long lake Rd. LQren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Ra. Marion St. Matilda Circle Matilda St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S. McCarrons St. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Hills Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mid Oaks Lane 8 Rd. Mildred Or. Millwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. Minresota Ave. Moundsview Ave. Mount Ridge Rd. Nancy Place Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. S Owasso Blvd. W Oxford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N & ' Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Yista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Roselawn Ave. Rosewood ta. N & S Ruggles St. Russeli Ct. �:Z�,is � A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-6:14 C D,J,L:17 B:1 6:1,7,8,20 B:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,6:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 6:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 B:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:Z9 A-a:l-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-6:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,N-J:10 A-6:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:I1-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:2i J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:21-13 6:8 Ryan Ave. �.� Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hock Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Ski1lman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T_H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Surrmer St . Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Vi�toria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnui St. West Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Willow Circle 4ti 11 ow Lane Woodbridge Circle Woodbridge Court Ir�odbridge St. Woodhill Orive Woodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. 5-7,9-13,17 E :10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,B:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 6:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:2-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-ZO 8:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I :5 I,J:19 E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,I9t2� K:18 v� • -° • June 30, 1986 T0: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18, 1986 1. Olmschenk, 484-8451 Mr. Olmschenk lives at 1161 Garden Avenue and is intere�ted in buying a single family residence proposed by Pat Goff, northwesterly (on the pond) of the intersection of Fernwood and Rose Place. This site is part of a series of duplexes which Pat Goff platted and is currently constructing in the immediate area. Mr. Olmschenk was merely checking with the City r�garding ponding and drainage conditians, �xtent of public street and utilities construction, and the status and reputation of the buiJ.d�r. He was due to meet with Mr. Goff later in the day, and was doing a background check from the City's perspective prior to that meeting. � 2. Dahlstrom, 770-2351 Linde Dahlstrom lives at 1276 Eldridg�, in a home bu�lt in 1938 as a parsonage for Father Abbatt of St. Rose �hurch. He � proposes to replace an existing �ccessory garag� with a new garage, and place a small addition on the westerly side of hi� home. This corner lot has a frontage on Eldridge of only 76.19 feet. However, the righ�-of-way for Dellwood is 66 feet, and thus the proposed garage location one foot off the property line, and 72 fee� south of Eldrid�e is not quite as serious as it first appears. This location is the same as the previous garage location. We reviewed minor variance procedures and requirements, f�r which Mr. Dahlstrom wi11 apply in the ne�r future. 3. McKim, 777-1050 Mike McKim, Attorne�, was in with Bill Yaeger, President of Kraus-Anderson Construction Company, to review preliminazy plans for the construction of a"Price Savers" wholesale discount store on the St. Paul and Suburban Bus Company site. We reviewed development criteria, procedures, and development concerns. We suggested the retention of the public str.eet on the easterly side ot the site, dedicating it to the north property line o� both parcels involved sQ that it could ultimately be extended across County �itch 4 to the cul-de-sac to the north at some point in the future. This roadway is appraximately half way between Fairvie� and Snelling, and thus would be a logical point to retain permanent l�ft turn acc�ss off County Road C. They are going to review their site plans with this concept in mind. • , Planning Office Hours `June 18, 1986 � Page 2 We emphasized the need for quality building materials, land- scape requirements in and around the parking lot, and other el.ements of the development proposal. They noted that the average shopping trip for Price Savers is $77.00 per trip, with a stay of an hour to an hour and one-half per customer. A relatively long stay is one of the reasons for the larger parking ratio, greater than the five spaces per thousand required by the City. The proposed building has been reduced to 148,000 square feet. Kraus-Anderson has proposed to build the building. The clevel- opment will result in elimination of the northerly most property (139,828 square feet) currently north of the St. Paul and Suburban Bus Company garage site. 4. Murray, 450-1500 Bob Murray is a realtor and broker, and was in suggesting the development of a residence site north of County Road C-2 tor an 8,000 to 10,OOQ square £oot SMR Computer Software buidling. The property is one of a row of single tamily homes, which wexe requested b� t�e property owners to be shown as high density, multi-family housing on the Comprehensive Plan. Murray propos�d not to purchase the house on the site, but to � utilize the remaining land only. In my opinion„ this makes the problem wors�, leaving a house with a very :small piece of property, making it more difficult to redevelop the land fox the future. I suggested he discuss this proposal with other neighbors, who in the past have expressed their willingness to �ell out as a group. I noted that the use for the overall properties might b�e office, or similar use, but we did not want t�o ].eave existing residents "holding the bag". We noted the Council's criteria for a"overwhelming majority" af residents d�siring to change the land use. 5. Ryden, �84-337]. Bruc� Ryden, Raseville Fire Marshal, reviewed a condition at Fairdale Shop� wherein Vision World, Inc., is running an optica]. factory in the basemenic of the Fairdale Shops building, producing lenses for fiftecan retail stores. He noted approximately thirty person� are employed. He is concerned about multiple violations rela�ting to life safety code require- ments. We noted that such a manufacturing operation is neither a special or permitted use in the B-1-b zone, to which this property is currently zoned. This fact to reinforce his objec- tive to ensure safe working conditions at the site. We noted that the original parking calculations were based on storage utilization of the basement a�ea. � � i Planning Office Ho � , urs June 18, 1986 • Page 3 6. Range, 784-2293 Jim Range is the Comptroller for Jim Trapp, and was in to plead for Paul Nelson who is applying for a conditional use permit for the sale of garbage hauling vehicles. Jim was formerly a nursing home administrator, and owns a home himself in Lake City. He formerly worked for Mr. Schuster tor ten owned Lake Ridge Health Center in Roseville, and manyarothers around the country. Mr. Range noted a series of improvements that have been made at the C1eanCo site, including asphalt driveway installation in 1983, installation of crushed rock over portions of the site in 1984, removal and installation of a new roof over the C1eanCo area, installation of new wiring and radiant heaters, painting of portions of the buildings, installation of some split raiY fencing along the boulevard, installation oi new lighting fixtures, installation of new rollup doors, and new fuel pumps. Mr. Range claims these improvements cost �130,000. We reviewed the City's concerns regarding the fulfillment of conditions relating to the outdoor appearance, as not�d in the lett�r from the City to Mr. Trapp foilowing the last Planning Commission meeting. I suggested Mr. �ra t�ese conditions with the City, and su P� com� in to re�iew the City could be assured these items wouldsbescompletedn W��ch 7. Lien, 633-5330 A1 Lien liv�s at 1495 West County Road B-2, westerly a�d across the street from 1477 west County Road B-2. The latter appears capable of being divided �nto two Property Lien is concerned about that pzOp�r�ies, and Mr. opp�se the potential subdivisionpeCbut is more conc�rnedsabout any variances that might be aYlowed �or ultimate construction of a new r�sidence on the sit�. Apparently, at this ti�e the prop�rty is being offer�d for sale. We cnnfirmed �hat, as of now, there has been no application for lot division, assuring Mr. Li�n that at such time as that occurs, public hearings will be held. We also noted t�e procedures requir�d for a minor variance, which would require his invol�ement in th� event that is propo�ed. 8. McCarron Jim and John McCarron are great McCarron, the original settler in southeasthRoseville�forhwhich McCarron's Lake is named. Charlie McCarron homesteaded th� northwest �uarter of Section 31. This is the 160 acres south of County Road B, east of Dale Str�et to the north end of the Lake. Charlie McCarron homesteaded in 1850, Much of this land is now City park land. • � � .Planning ' June 18, oft�� S e Hours 1986 � Page 4 They were in to inquire about the possibility of building a house on the lakeshore between North McCarron's Boulevard and the northwesterly shore of the lake. This is a large parcel, but they want to build one house. We suggested they buil.d it on one side of the lot or the other, so that i� could be divided in the future should they so decide. The Engineering Section Maps showed the southerly boundary of the site to be proper�y owned by the City, providing access to the lake for drainage facilities coming down from the park under north McCarron's Boulevard. 9. Johnson, 484-2944 Beth Johnson lives at 226 Minnesota S�reet, and was in to ciiscuss the potential division of her land and that of a n�ighbor at 218 Minnesota Street, so as to create a 75 faot �ot on the sou�h end of their two combined properties. We noted that her property alone would not be adquate for this purpose. Across the street, there is a previously divided 75 foot lot similar to that proposed here. 10. �ons, 291-6345 Karen Lyons and Toni Mooney are looking for a new hame site in Roseville. They are corasidering the possibil�t3.es of a duplex, �nd have be�n looking a� the northwes�k corner of Waod- hill and F�rnwood. Mr. Hon�hell sugg�st�d tk�ey get soil tests, imasmuch as it appears that this lat and the one to tlae west have soil and high water table problems, we discusseci the City's crit��ia for location of duplex�s, and procedures for d��:lopm�nt of such unit� and single family t�om�� in the City. 11. Olschlaqer 339-4204 Gordon 4lschlage� ( KK&E A►rchi tects ), Rick Johnsora, , anc� Jo� Scivr�idt were in to discuss the expansion �;nd r�dev�l�pment plans for th� ,7ohnson Whol��al� F].orist site south of th� tracks and �:ast�rly of Long Lake Ftoad. We had revi@wed prelimina�y dev�:lopment plans previously, and were naw presented with some more detaileci plans. We sugqest�d that consider�ble emphasis b� pla��d on lanc�scaping and sel�ctiofl of building material�, so as to enhance the appearance of the structu�es without aclding great expens�. we also noted the importance of the east side of the sits, which runs toward the service road contig�ous to �he west side of 35W. We suggest�el there be a 25 foot setback along this side, so �s to provid� morc: adequate space for landsea�in� �a as to screen the large truck manuvering area on the west side of th� strutures. This land is zor�ed B-4, anc� requir�s a special use permit far site p1.an approval. � . � � ,Office Planning Hours Page 5 ' June 18, 1986 • As you will recall, they propose to tear out the existin g temporary greenhouses and replace them with a permanent struc- ture. Additional additions are proposed, to the extent that most of the southerly side of the structure will be replaced with new wall surfaces. 12. Parranto, 454-1600 Ger.e Parranto was in to discuss the possibilities of the redevelopment of the southwesterly corner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. This property is owned by the Tempte people, and is currently being used to park trucks from the Springer organization. He inquired as to whether or not there may be a possibility of parking these trucks temporarily behind the Mr. Print building, if that would result in the redevelopment of �he Tempte property. We suggested that this might be a possibility if the Tempte property is �n attr�ctive develop- ment proposal. You will recall that tt�e St. Paul and Suburban Bus Company parkec3 their buses behind the Mr. Print building for a period of two years. It is important to achi�ve a quality redevelopment of the Tempte site, as much as it forms the gateway to the Long Lake Road area to the sauth tto the new bridge site and redevelopment a��a>. � 13. W� also got a call from a developer from Sioux Fa11s, Sotath Dakota� propo�ing to construct a new three story inn on the Ruan sit�, to iz�clude an enclosed swimming pool and other hotel ameniti�s. tde suc�gested he come to Roseville to meet� with the �taff and revi�w �riteria, procedures, development ob�ectives and po�ential for the site. NI I 'I 3�2� 3) M Y[ •. CO. �D. 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B:11 � Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 Bismarck Ave. G:19 Bossard Dr. H:18 Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Brenner Court A:2 Brenner St. A:l Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Brooks Circle F:19 Bruce St. F:7,8 Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Capitol View �"� :19,20 t p' i�w i r. H. 9 � r. C ,9,10,18 �'� Center St`. � - . -0 Chandler St. K:1 Chatsa�orth A,B, ,G,J-L:13 Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Civic Center Dr. D:12 Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 leveland Av . A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 v�.� -18 �-�Colonial Dr�.�.� . 0 Commerce St. �. Cope Ave. ��-��, Couniy Road B H:1-20 County Road 62 F:5-20 County Road C D:1-2U County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Crescent Lane I:I8 Christy Circle E:11 Dale Court K:16 Dale St. C-L:16 Dellwood Ave. C,I-!:11 Dellwood St. E-H:11 Dionne ave. L:19 Dionne St. L:I2,13 Draper Ave. ,4,11,13 Litt]e Bay Rd. �.17,I� Kyan A •5-7,9-13,17 Draper Drive � Lang Lake �d. A-F:3 � Sandhu .1U-12,14,15,17,19 Dunlap St. E,F,L:12 Lor�e� Rd. J:5 Sanciy A:17 Eldridge Ave. I:s,7,�,10-12.16,18 lov�ll Ave. G:�3-16�18 xttan . F:9,10,12,15,I6,18 Elmer St. J:19,20 Lyc3ia li+re. a,B:Y, S dy 6each K:20 Eustis St. E,H:1 Lydia Court A:l �h _ dale Ave. I:5 Evelyn St. Ac5 lydia Or. /�-B:14.- - .--°� --� don St. B,�,F:IO Evergreen Ct. J:5 �cicubin Sti.. C D.J,L.17 EKren St. N:11-15 Fairview Ave. A-J:6 l�inson St. B:] Sho�re�eood Cv. & la. R:7 Fairways Lane I:2 �ap1e Lane g:1,7o8,20 Shr,�er Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,I7 Farrington Ave. I•29 t�4aple Lane dt. B:19 Sim�sons 5t. A,8:9-1d;F,J:9 Farrington CT. A•19 F4arion Rd. t#:3 Skillman Ave;� J�,6,10-12,1o,20;I:7 Farrington St. :19 �4arion St. Ei-t.t:26 SnellirEg Ave. R-18-9 Farrin :19 Ftiatilda Circle F:19 Snelling Curve 9 �a Fernwoo�� I�� i�ia�ilda 5�.. B- ,.G- Sne� 1'r� Q: Fernwoo�-St... ....,..�„� C- ,Ff:l ,� l4cCarron Btvd Sne � � Fisk St. iicCerron �lvd. , . �! � Sou i _�, _� 1 Fry St. E-F,1:8 '`'ti� KZCarrons St.` $-ii,H�:�I" �S. ..;35�' .4; G-N:I-4 Fulham St. G-J-2 l9idland Grove Rd. N:� 5,.7.H. 36 G-H:1-ZO Galtier Circle F:20 Hidland tiills Rd. J:3 S.T:N�36 Serv, tl 6-2-4 Galtier St. 8-O,F,L•19 �idZothsan Rd. H_I � S.T.H. 3�,`S�r��. S H:3-4,7,8,17 Garden Ave. +• 1,12 O�isi Oaks Lane a Rd 8 S.T.N 23� � H-J: i • � �. _.j � Nfi r 0�. ,�i5 St, A C,�,G,L:16 a�!lp ' t�i :+�-8.10,13-15 St. C ix G,H:2 '"""G'f�'iiL�o'�'"� . "!@! ,18 �' . f 9 St. 5 ephens St. N:2 Gluek Lane W ton St. � ,:14 Stanbridge Av B:7-8 Gluek Lane N 8 S H: t' s.t. , �'i��ii�E50W �re. G:l&20 � .�� A:1 Grandview Ave. G•��6� i �SY9C'9i' AY�. J: 7 ad H:9 � ,:' K:lb Griggs St. E,D:12 -•� F�oun "'�iidge d. - . d Grotto St. E-H:15 tian G, . " .St�rrner St'' �''� K:12 Haddington Road N:8 t�or , 6:2� . Tal�sasan Curv� D:10 Namline Ave. A-L:10 Oak r�s� Ave. ""� 5- .,12,2�6 7atum St. J:6 Hand Ave. G,?:19 Oakt�resi lan� E: Terminai Road F:1-3 Heinel Dr. A-D:15-17 Old Nighrray 8 A-�:1-2 7errace �r. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Heinei Circle C-16 Orchard Lan� C:14 7ophi1l Circle G:18 Herschel Ave. E,N:7 Oyaassa Blvd. S A-C:Z6-20 Tr�nsit :;ve. F:9-14,16-20 Herschel St. J:7 Q.�ass� Blvd. k A-B:15-16 7rnseth P.d. 8:1-2 Highcrest Road A,6,6.H:1 O�xf�rd St. A,C-F,N,J,lC:l3 Yictoria St. �i-L:14 Hilltop Ave. !C-i7 �.,� Parker Ave. I:13-ls Yi��ginia Ave. C-0:19 Hu�i� ��„�{ � Partridg� Rd. 8:3-4 yig �nia Circle F:19 ' j-��- P'� �"•• Pascal St. A-F,H-J:10 Wa �rrer Place k;20 Hu . `�� Patton Rd. A-B.1 biagner St. K:ll-19 Hythe St. J:4 Pineview �x. K:16 t�a�nut St. E-H:1 Iona Circle C:18 Primr�se Curvg D:10 4fest Peric;,eter Dr. 6:6 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior Ae+e. �-G,I-J:5 l�festern l�ve. B-K��8 Ione St. L:�� Prior Circle A:5 yesta+ood Circle J:4 Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court 0:1� 6detters Roa� E:20 Irene Court F:18 Rambler Rd. D:10 Mfieaton Ave. D:15-16 Irene St. E,F,H,I:18 Raym�ond Ave. A-B�4 W'�eeler Ave. �,F'� Josephine Rd. B:Il,i2 Rice St. A-L:2Q ifi�eiQr St. A,B,I,J:7 Judith Ave. C:10-13,18 liidge�aood la. ti 8 5 J:8 Milder St. a�1=5 Karyl Place I:12 Ridgewoad Rd. A:9 d�lliam St. I,J:19 , Kent St. B,D,J,L.:17 Ro� Ave. L:21-13,16,19 �� ircle E:11 Lake St. J:2 Rose Plate E:1,2,7-12�15,15,18 �� ane E:11 Lakeview Ave. C,D:I3 Rose Vista Ct. l.:11 ltowdbridge Circie G:20 Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 Roseda�e �*'• �!3 Ho dbridge Court L:20 laurie Road H:3,8,�12 Roseiakn Ave. J:2-14,1� ��dbri p' p t ,-� Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Fbasewood La. N& S J:3-4 hi�� d�t'�1��;�i��y Lindy Ave. I,L:I2 Ruggies St. K:11-13 �-9r ,,,, Russell Ct. B:8 {�druff av '� .• �K-18 . �.�' f�,�� , ,� i a;� . I!�■ ��■��■ - INNO�AiIVE ,. o r ■ � Q � ' 1�1[I �R � �]�APHI �� ' ar � . _ �.�.. . ��,��: . �, � ,�;. � _ � � . _. �� . � .�� -. � � . �. �. . �. � � �� ►� �.x � �� LJ June 16, 1986 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 11, 1986 1. Bro3y, 636-4468 Norm Brody was in to inquire about the possil�ility of a�cquiring and redevelopi�g the site at the southr��st corner of Highway 36 and Snelling, where Morris Goldman d�v�loped five mul.ti-family apartm�nthouse structures ab�ut fifteer� years ago. His proposal is to redevelop the land for a retai.l, one story shopping center strip. �ie also would li}ce to acquire the Blomberg Clin�.c which is contiguous te� th� south. Th� Clinic cou�d be ralocat�d within th� shopping �etnt�r strip. He notes that B�y�rl�r" s and T. J. �Rax �re lo�kinc� f�r sites in Ros�ville. �C� prQsent�d a series of alternativc dev�logment �f�e�ch�es' ir�d�G�tinc� shopping cent�r foatage from �0,0�0 t� 7�r�5�0 sqUarca faet. Some of thesQ ].ayou+rs h�d s�pa��+k� paths far ancill�ry d�c�velopmer�t up ta 20,000 square �e�t C lar�ci a��a) . ��, 8�or�y has med� no a�tempts �o acquire th� l�nd, bur is 3��tqui�ins� �$ eo wha+� assistan�o +the City could p�cov�de ir� �h� �agm o� tax ,ir��amcn�s. ��Q prob�e��n h�r� is th�t the fivo apartment structur�s c��- �ist �f a��ro�clma+�ely 99.000 squ��cs fo�t of �laerac �r��. �`hus� it is o�v:�ous ther� wouid i�s�vc ta � far mo�a int�n��.�e dQ�c��op�m�t�t �han a one s+�csry �hopping c�ntaar to �rea�t� a d��;��bl� snd wo�keb�e tax incramon� red�vQloprnQnt p�o��l �o� ti�i� �i+��. 'Thls �ite is or►� �of th� faur qu�c��a«�� of t3�� p��n��,pa�� in�e��c�ion aE it��avill�, i.e. , Hir�h�� arAd �n�+ll#.�� A�r�n�t�. t�k��n r�elQVQlo�d, this �itct she�uls3 b� a ��,+�� a�� a� h�c�h ri�� tructure. �ug�en�ing kMo �en story �tr��t►�r� �lr��►dy a�ppro��tl for tttQ �acond pha�sQ saf �h+� wat+�r' s Ed�� ciovolopmen+� in +�ha northeast� c�uadr�n� . W�! re�rie�w�� tlt�a�� conceFt� �ittr Cr�ig walci�on an�l Norm Brody, ��r�cir�� th�t redevQlc��m�nt Qf �hi� �ita fo� ret�il Fu�cpoa�s i� lik�iy impro�ba�l� �e �his point. Tho City is b�tteY o�f to ��i� unti� el�e�o is demand for such a high ris� strucrure, ,��d �� pai�nt w�are the apartmc�n� own�r ma� be will,inq ta �iquidute. �. John��n��Q240 � �.3oi�ns��, s�n of th� foundar of Johnson ero�hers Flo�i�t, Jc�� S�hmid, f rom S�eehey constru�c�on �ampany, ar�� G�r�l�n �Olsc�l�go� and Ron Erick�an, bath of Koxsunksky, Krank, and 1Erick�an, w�re in �.o ciis�u�s t�ntative �xpansion and :�ed�-� v�1r��am�n� pi�ns �or th� Johnson 8ro�h�rs Florist locatec� imm�dia��ly sou�h aE th� Burlington Northern trac}cs be�we�n �ony La�Ce Road and Highway 35W, � • P lannin Of f ice Ho�s 9 June 11, 1986 Page 2 Ron Erickson presented plans indicating a two phase potential development, the first of which would replace the existing greenhc�.se structures with a permanent building. We discussed the potential use of the site for ultimate redevelopment as a part of the extension of the tax increment distri.ct currently in effect to the south. We noted that it is a question of time before the use of the property that the Johnson Brothers occupy may well be better used for more intensive uses. In the meantime, the Johnson Brothers people find this location suited to their needs, and they wish to replace the antiquated greenhouses with a permanent structure. It was noted, it is in the City's interest not to spend too much money on this site, so that we have to buy more ultimately in the future. We also noted tha� we didn't want to have the redevelopment done in so cheap a fashion so as to constitute a:t.iability to the redevelopment of the area in the near term future. The plan did include, in the first phase, extensive improve�- ments to the appearance of the property, particularly relating to Long Lake Road. We suggested that the construction changes should be done in a manner so as to be reasonably attractive, yet not so expensive that we don't recognize the fact that the long-range future for tha.s facility in this area is limited. We suggested, therefore, that they proceed with development of p]ans emphasizing aesthetic improvements of the site that wil:_ assist the Ci�ty in marketing the area qenerally for more intensive uses, while they continue to operate on the site within the confines of these guidelines in the meantime. Rick noted the total employment on the site is approximately seventy persons. 3. Costco, 206-443-2323 * John Hartigan, from the Costco organization, Phil Boetker, attorney from the Dorsey, Whittney Law Firm, Jerry Lee, from the Mulvany Architectural Firm, and Roger Morgan from the Engineering Company, were in to review more precise plans for the development of a Cos�co wholesale store at th� former Indianhead Truck Terminal site. It was agreed (Costco and City) they would build privately the streets to the east and the west, Mount Ridge Road and P�ior Avenue, north from County Road C to the north land of their property, at their expense. There would then be a public easement across the north side of their property connnecting these two public streetso They will. also pay for storm sewer improvements required on and off site. Charlie Honchell noted that the City could do a storm sewer project which would pick up portions of these costs, but that the necessary public hearings and processing would involve several months time. Mr. Hartigan indicated that he would discuss this with his superiors, but suggested they would likely proceed on their own due to the timing problems. L� � �J � Planning Office Hours June 11, 1986 Page 3 The proposed structure will be brick f aced, with 106,000 square feet. Mr. Hartigan noted that approximately �ave been approved at Louisiana and i� St, Louis Park they Highway 7, with a brick faced building and concrete block on the remainder. The Roseville strucaese Wyll }ae f aCed with a applied bric'� veneer on all four si The site plan was discussed, noting t�ottire tarea rneart�the area should be tied in with the au % improve the northeast corner of theea��erly side ofltheesite contiguous aesthetic quality of the to Prior Avenue (east side of the havedtagbe substantially noted that thositedtheptrucknloading area on the east side of improved opp the structure. Mr. Hartigan showed us pictures °�ashingtonthKirkland istthe particularly the one in Kirkland, W have a new office Edina of the Seattle area where they This is building constructed contigions.tQ The Costco system consists one o£ theiz original loca of twenty-one stores, normally oP�r�onndoinga$1u2 millionlper per year, with the Seattle operat week. Sixty to sixty--five percent of the business is whole�aling direc� to other retai.lers. The basic markup ei ht percent over cost. Thus, large volumes are the basi� 9 far the successful operation. Mr. Har�tigan nnted that Costco does no advertising, other than utilization of a team of people who visit local r�ta�l�xs prior to the Qpening °� the NASDA� O-'� C�Exchange. p�ublicly held corporation listed on are noted to be $800 Gro�s sales, as projectedroxinlately $80 million. million, with equity at app This project will lae before the Planning Conunission at its July meetin� for amendment to the COr�valeforVa special from Industrial to �-4, and app I rezoning roval in the B-4 District. use permit for site plan app feel that this development, done under the c�ntrols of the B- 4 Distric�. (including three percens fortthepredevelopment� of landscaped), will provide impetu this area, which will include the con�iruous�to the�rproperty Mount Ridge Road and Prior Avenu� co � on the west and east sides. 4, Slawik 631-034�Mike Scott, Gary Jackson, and Ed Tichenor, Marie Slawik, were in to discuss Marie's son-in-law wha runs Midway Ford, potential expansion and developrneRoadfBtandHSn�lling��teMike the southeast quadrant of County suggesting the presented four alterna�ive concept schemes, expansion of ths site toward the �outh with an additional major retail marketer. Planning Office Hours June 11, 1986 �J Page 4 • We encouraged Mrs. Slawik and her colleagues to consider the additional expansion, and indiGated that the best �cheme was the one that projected development south of the existing th�ater structur�s so as to be visible from Snelling Avenue. The redeveZopment of the entrance on the east side was also suggested, as a means of adding import and intere�t to the easterly side of the site. The land to be occu�ied by any proposed structure in any of the four schemes is zoned B-1b, and is appropriate f�r retail redev�iopment. Th� southerly portion of th� site is a parking a�ea constructed as a part of the original shopping center when they anticipated expan- sion of the Center rather quickly a�ter 1:a60 when it was built. This portion of the land is zoned R-1, but is subjert to a special use permit far parking purposes. � LJ � Again, we discussed the possibility of ultimately acquiring the houses southwesterly of the shopping center.. Marie owns some of these homes but not all. Obviously at some point in the future, it will be appropriate and prudent to acquire these houses, and orient the southerly expansion of the center toward Snelling Avenue. The location is so good, it would appear likely that at some point in the future, these resicients can be well compensated so that the benefits accrue to t:he residents and the ultimate developers as well. We encouraged Mrs. Slawik to proceed with development plans for the limited expansion indicated in her proposals. 5. Murlowski, 633-6944 Mark Murlowski, Pat Commers, and Tom Lish, Architect, were in to review their potential preliminary plans for lands they are contemplating purchasing from the Williams Pipe Line Company. These consist of three parcels, one northwesterly of Trunk Highway 8, which is planned for multi-family housing, and two to the south of County Road C-2 and south- easterly of Trunk Highway 8, both of which are indicated as Industrial in the Comprehensive Plan. Pat Commers indicated her interest in developing a mini- warehouse site on the southerly most portion of the three sites. We sug�ested that in view of the City's very small inventory of d�velopable industrial raw land, such a use would not be ap�ropriately intensive. Mini-storage is not a permitted use in an R-Industrial District. We suggested that they find other locations for such a low intensity, relatively unattractive use. WP reviewed other elements of the proposed development, noting that the extension of a roadway from t�� cul-de-sac to the south is not planned by the City. Therefore, the appropriate access to the southerly most portion is off County �oad C-2. Here, a short cul-de-sac will provide the appropriate access to this site. Mr. Murlowski noted they are anticipating developing a structure for themselves on this site, which we encourage. We also agreed with the development of the northwesterly most site for multi-family housing as they propose. � � Planning Of f ice Ho•s June 11, 1986 � P�ge 5 6. Glass Service Com anv Glass Service Company representatives were in to discuss possible locations in Roseville. They need a 30,000 square foot structure with expansion of 10,000 to 15,000 square feet. We discussed possible locations, procedures, require- ments, and potential opportunities within the City for existing and proposed structures. 7. McKim, 777-1050 * Mike McKim, of the Price Savers Wholesale Club, was in to discuss the possible development af the St. Paul Suburban Bus Company's site for a 111,000 square feet, 765 stall parking facility. We discussed the criteria, procedures, and requirements for such a proposal, noting the high standards required by the City and anticipatEd by other development further to the east. Mr. McKim noted that Price Savers operates in the vicinity of a ten to twelve percent markup, and h�s been highly successful in other parts of the country. We suggested that unless a high quality development was considered, that it woul.d be appropriate to seek other locations. It would appear that, in this case, they propose not to acquire the site, but that it would be developed by the owner and leased back. I suggested that if three or four wholesale clubs are marketing in the Twin Cities, that it would be better for Roseville to have a concentration of such clubs, enhancing the market pull of the City, rather than having it drawn off into contiguous areas in Arden Hills, Little Canada, etc. I feel that these developments done well along County Road C wil:� attract other developments as we have seen occur in the case of the discount store operations some twenty years ac�o. I recall the concern expressed about the development of a Target store in Southdale. Ultimately, as we proposed, quality development occurred contiguous to and in the vicinity of the store, consistent with the "Edina image" of the Southdale area. 8. Pope, 291-8894 Bob Pope, of the Architectural firm, and Steve Wilson of the Brutger Company (Dan Brutger out of St. Cloud) were in to discuss their proposal for the revised plan for the development ot the medium density, multi-family housing site at the southeast corner of Highway 36 and Victoria. They propose now a single two story structure, within the zoning limitations of the R-6 district to which the property was zoned last year. The new structure would have fifty-four units in accordance with the R-6 zone density, and include a whirlpool, sauna, party room, exercise room, �tc. The struc- ture would be of brick and stained cedar, with a pitched residentia:l type roofo The� are going to meet with the neighbors to review their coticept, and hopefully secure the neighbors support. � CJ � Planning Office Hours June 11, 1986 � Page 6 The setbacks proposed �re substantially larger than setbacks provided for in the townhouse plan. The bulkrof lthe structure is one hundred thirty feet from the east property line (the back�ards of �he co�tiguous single family lots), and the near�st portion of the structure is seventy-five feet away. All the parking and vehicular acti�ity would be west of the structure, away from the single family homes. It would appear that the development has considerable merit, and avoids some of the expensive and difficult soil groblems featured on this �ite. 9• Carlson, 546-2501 Tom Carlson lives at 19 Mid Oaks Road, and is the g�andson of Mrs. Ruth Zimmerman, one of thE early, dominant and active members of the Planning Commission in the original era back in 1957-1961. Tom Carlson inherited his homeanfr m Mrs. Zimmerman, and now seeks a minor variance to construct a fence contiguous to Roselawn Avenue in the wooded area contiguous to the south side of his house. 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Ag��n Aglen St. Aladdin St. Alameda St. Albemarle St. Albert St. Aldine St. Alta Vista Dr. Arona St. Arthur P1. Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. Avon St. Bayview Dr. Beacon St. Belair Cir. �Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats�iorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. �Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Qale Court Da1e St. Dellwood Ave. Del7wood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 Draper Ave. 4,1�,13 Little Bay Rd. A:I7,i$ �yan Are. J:5-� 9-I3 17 C-D:13 Oraper Drive Long Lake Rd. A-F:3 � Sand�urst Drive��'f-- :10-12,14,�5,17,ig F,K:13 Dunlap St. ,,1:12 Loren Rd. J:5 Sandy Hook Dr. A:17 E:16 Eldridge Ave. I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 Lovell �4ve. G:13-Y6,18 Sextant Ave. F:9,10,12,I5,16,18 I,K:16 Elmer St. J:19,20 Lydia Av�. A��:f,f�-14 Shady Beaci� K-20 I:20 Eustis St. E,H:l Lydia Court A:l Sharqndale Ave. I:5 A,B,F,H:10 Evelyn St. A:5 L�►dia dr. A-8:14 Sheldon St. B,D,F•10 B�E��=� Ev�rgreen Ct. J:5 P�ackubin St. C O.J,L:17 Si�erre� St. H:11-15 K-L:16 Fairview Ave. A-J:6 t�anson St. B:1 Shor�d Cv. & La. A:7 A-C,F,J:9 Fairways Lane I:2 l4aple Lane 8:�,7��,20 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 B�6 Farrington Ave. I:19 Naple L�ne Ct. 6:19 5iasp�ons St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 A:6 Farrington CT. A:19 Mt,irion Rd. E �H:3 53ci1'lman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,ZO;I:7 A,B,J:9 Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 P�rio� St. L' Snelling A�ve. �.3�4•� � G:19 Farrington Circle F:19 F'batiicla Cir:.1�� K:12 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 t4atilda St. g..p* �;�gg► � 9 Curve (,�,�,�,,,,� SnE� i � B-D:8 �.� A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. C-E,H:11 !l�4ccCarron Blvd. P1. J:D8- .3 g��"i b-D:9 s-. J�18 F�sk St. E:15 I'�ScCarron Blvd. S. K-L:18- ill De-. G:18 ��N. 'St E,F,J:7 y St E-F,I:8 l�4cCarrons St. B D,H,K:il S.7.F1. 356� A-B:4; G-H-1-4 B:11 Fulham St. G-J:2 Widland Grove Rd. ti:4. � r` S,�,i{. 3b �� : I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle F:20 Hidlan� Nills i�d. J:3 � S.T,Ft. 36 Serv. N G:19 Galtier St. 6-D,F,L:19 Hidtot�iian Rd. H-t.8 S.T.N. 35 Serv. S ""' H:18 G3rden Ave. K:11,12 Mi� Oaks Lan� 8 Rd. J;8 S.T.H 230 H-J: 1�� A:5,6,9,10,13-15 G i e s m a n S t. I- J: 1 9 N i l d r e� O r. A. 6: 6 S t. AljBr+�.,� S t. C, F, G, L• 1 6 A:2 Glenhill Road A:lU Hill,�000d Ave. 6:7 10,I3 l St.�„C.,�,�,j, G,H:2 . A:l G l e n w o o d A v e. K: 1 7, 1 8 W i l iw�oo d S t. B: . 5tephens St. H:2 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Gluek Lane H:5 Miiton St. A, ,,,,,,,�,,,,,,,,�..�,� � tanbridge ave. B:7-8 F:19 Gluek Lane N& S H:6 Hinr�fsa[a .1�re. G: - 0 Stanbridge St. A:I F��8 Grandview Ave. G:13•15,18-20 lio�undsviear Ave. J:17 Sta'� Farm Road H•9 I:10-14,19,2Q Griggs St. C,D:12 Maunt Ridge Rda A-0:5 Stuber Road K•16 H:19,20 Grotto St. E-H:15 1'�ancy Plat� G,N:14 _Siam�er St. K:12 H:19 Haddington Road H:8 t3orthvie+� St, 6:20 7alisRaan Curve D:10 J:17 �H�h'ne Ave. A-L:10 Oa Ave. E:5-E,11,12,15,18 Tatun St. J-6 C:7,9,10,18 �id ve. G,I:19 0 cre ane E:19 Termana� Road F•1-3 K:20 � tk�n Dr. A-D:IS-17 d Hi 8 A-B:1-2 � K:17 "'- "��'"� f�r� 1e C-16 �� h oe :14 Terraee Dr. C:7,I0,11,18;C-D:15-16 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 HerschelL�e. E,H:7 ��~ Ow vd. S�i-C:16-20 Tep�� » Circle G:18 A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. J:7 O.rasso Blvd. M A-B:15-16 �ransit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 D:12 Troseth Rd. 6:2-2 Highcrest Road A,B,G,H:1 Oxford St. R,C-F,�i,J,K:13 Yictoria St. A-L:14 A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. K-17 rker A I:13-I� A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton St. F:1 � •�a trid Rd. g;�_q Virc�ania Ave. C-D:19 H-J:18 Huron Ave. K•��e61�� : Yirginia Circle F:13 ..�$�j aT R-f,W-J:10 Ida�en�r Place k;�0 E-G:18 Huron St. C-D P ton {�-B:1 Nagncr St. K•�i7-19 G:10 Hythe St. J:4 inevi K:16 {�ainut St. E-H:1 H:9,10 Iona Circle C:18 Primros r-ve D:10 idest Perirneter Or. G:6 G:15,16 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior A. B-�,I-J:5 itestern Ave. B-K:18 H:1-20 Ione St. L:11 Prior �ircle i`'.,p:5 6destNood Circle J•4 F:5-20 Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court '�. 18 6ieNers Road E:20 D:l-2U Irene Court F:18 ��S,�e*��l� D. bheaton Rve. D:15-16 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. E,F,H,I•i8 � • A:1-7,12-16 �� ' .� • Whe��er d�ve. E,F:7 Josephine Rd. 6:11,12� �• itice St. -L: 6lhee�er St. A,B,I,J:7 1=18 Judith Ave. C:10-13,l8 Ridgewood La. H b :� Wilder St. A,I:5 E:11 Karyl Place I:12 Ridgewood Rd. S:9 Millaam St. I,J:19 K:16 Kent St. B,D,J,L.:17 Roma Ar�e. L:11-13,16,19 biillo� Circle E:11 � C-L:16 Lake St. J:2 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,IS,1b,18 btillaw Lane E:1� C,I-E:lI Lakeview Av�e. C,0:13 Ros� Vista Ct. L:I1 4loodbridge Circle G:20 E-H:11 Larpenteur Ave. 1;12-20 Rosedale Dr. 3:3 ibodbridge Court E.:20 �� L:19 Laurie Raad H:3,8,12 Roselarm Ave. J:2-14,i7 {�oodbridge St. A-& m L:12,13 Lexington Ave. A-L��2 `� Rosewood La, ti b S J;3-4 �hill Orive D:11-• ,� Lindy.,p� 1 1��!� � Ru les �t. K:11-23 ��A�e ��2�1��`� ,^ �� • 1��"VC?� Russell Ct. 6:8 � �,�'��: -�... �, a r� � ; • rr: : ;•••••••••• INN � VATIVE . . p. : � Q � MICR�GRAPHICS . �� . . . [�U � T� T� � �t��!� �� I� C� IT � � i� � � T� % �� .��C�� +� ,� � , � :�. ; . _ � �r j l . , � , � � � .�. � �► � �1, a � � June 6, 1986 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4, 1986 1. Lincoln Companies, 339-4200 Ron KranK Architect; Dave Putman, Civic Engineer; Jerry Ryhiander, 'I'raffic Engineer from Strygar-Roscoe; and 5andy Lindstroth were in to review Lincoln Companies proposal to constru�t a shapping center on the former Glendenning Tru�k Terminal sit�. Jerry Ryhlander had conferred with Paul iCi.rkwold, Ramsey County Traffic Engineer, and agreed upon the appr�opriate access points �o County Road C. Kirkwold informed him that County Road C would be improveci this year with a median strip easterly from the service road to the intersection with Snelling �v�nue, Meetings with MnDOT confirm that they propos� to revert th� right-af-way acquir�d far the �interchang� back to priva�e parties �Mar�� Slawik on the west, and 8i11 Fine on th� east). �h�es� transfers o£ title m�y oecur by �the �nd of the year. The d�sig�n for the principal access to the Cent�r off County Road C�rould be ane lane in, a median, �nci two e�it l�n�s ��qualing eight�en fee�, fiv� fee�, anci tw�nty-seven fe�t gesp�ctively. The public str�et c�n tine east �iei� of th� property t ta be built by th� City) woul.c� �intersect with th� s�rvi�e road ju�t so��tt� af �t�e t�idw��r Forri prop�rty, we disc�assed the f�asibility oE m�kir�g �his � foug-way in��rs�ction� with traffic emph�sis pa�t �h� shopp£nq c+�n�er wh��e the grea�ter volumes ar�e likel� tc� be. Such � gQom�tric would simplify +�h� turning movem�nt, and n�ake it Qasi�� to mo�e from the shopping c�en��r to +�h� sarvice rc��d �past thQ �ran� of Midway �ord�. LatQr in th� deY, w� �evi�w�d th�s with t�ike ScQt�, ropresent�.ng ��arie �l��ik. Th�re was considerabl� disc�ssion ��g�r�ding th� handling of th�e �torm sewag�, Charlie Nonc�ell nating that i� th� storm gond�.ng is to occur �n the �paee Cor�t�r p�op+�r�y to the s��art� (who alsa e�wn �he shoppinq c�en��r sit�y� a�Pro�riaCQ Eas�ments and agr��m�nts wou].d havQ to b� dra�wn �to accomplish t�at ola�ectiae. A p�oposal to g�nd oa� St�at� own�d prap�rty n�ar tho southeast corn�r of th� si�� was discourac��d. A portion of that �rc� may r�v�rt ta ��rs. Sl�wik, �hcaugk� it wQuld c�eat� � parce� tao s�nal,l to dev�log. This is a small �;iec� of land, abou� �ic�l�ty ieot in w�idth a� the inunedi�at� northw�st corn�r o� the ��rvice road ancl Coun�� R�aci C. It �ia� not�c� �Ma�. th�r4 is ��me f luidit�• i� th� m��eup �f the perspectiv� t�nants, including at l�mst on� o�E th� anchoxs. Thus, thi� specific shopping centEr design may ch�nge as the ci�velopm�nt evalves. Th� action proposed is an a��ndmetat ta th� Comprehensiv� �lan (industrial to bus3ness)r r�zoninq from Industrial to B-4, and a Special Us� Pe�rmit far site plan appr�val. c • � �� Planning Office Hours June 4, 1986 � �age 2 We noted the importance of a quality brick exterior surface, similar treatment on all four sides of th� structure, provisions for solid waste storage, screening of roof top equipment, and the three percent landscape requirement in the parking area in the B-4 zone. 2. Scott, 636-2869 Mike Scott was in to discuss the possible us� of the ald Rose Bowl building (20,000 square feet) by a renter proposing to use the structure for a large retail store. Mike presented a very preliminary site plan, indicating the use of the B-1 zoned land west�rly of the McDonald site to augment the par}cing needed for the retail ��tlet at the Rose Bowl sit�e. We noted that such parking wauld not b� allowed unless the l�nd were zoned B-2 or B-3. Inasmuch as tt�is property is coa�tiguous to residential develapment on three sides, it aPpea�erl that such rezoning would lik�ly b� strong].y oppaseel. we also not�d, with Charlie t��nchelY's confirmation, tihat the parking on the �ast side of the Ros� �owl skructure that now ex3.sts wil�. be lost when Sn�lling Av�nue is improved. The propos�d store is Hiland Sup�r Se�ore, of which th�r� are now forty in the coun�ry, in the st�t�s oE Tlinois, Indiana, and T��xas. Th�y prQpo�� ta plac� six s�or�s to serve th� Twin City ar�a. we also discussed th� Zikel� possib3lity c�f consid�ral�1Q t�gf�ic congestion wirh that volum� of p�r�ing for � 20,000 squarQ f�mt r�t�►il store. w�e sue�g�Qst�d the�r con�idc�r r�tleveloping th� site inssmuch as �hQ Qxist�ng s�tructur� i� ob�►iou�ly out of scaic with �h� site, �nl�ss u��d �or a vo�y low traffic genera�ing �asc�. 2a. 5cott�,636-6869 �— �c�tt also discus�ad wi�h �s the fu+�ure �lans f�x th� S��wik pra�ertie� a� th� nor+thwast� corn�r of �c�unt� Road C �n�l Sr��ll�.ng. H� conf irmQd the likely transf�r of pro�ort� from MnDO'�, �nd inquirQd ot�taining dQv�lop�n�n� in tha a��►. t�o sugge�ted thQ �revisa� g��r��t�ic� for the ia�tars�c+�ion on tha sQr�ice ro�c� mnd �he ��GQss tc� th� �at�ntial �hoppi�g cent�r tc� the we�t . W� g�ve him ��ketch �anc1 loos� layout se�ggQs�ing +chat miqht be pursued in the intere�t �f g�ttin� mo�e consu�er traEfi� rela��d to tY�� ront antranc� ta �l��way Ford. H� is going t� r�vi�w �his �aith hi�s pe�pl� and g�� back to us. 3. Gostco. 4�i3-23�� John Hart�, of Costco tSeat�l��, Doug t�ulvanny, Archit�c� �a�.�o fr�m S��t�le?, �::ti :Tchn K�r�raski; Engine�r from Schoell and h�at��on (Minn�apolis), w�r� in �o revi.ew more �x�ensive pl.ans for Cos�co's propos�ci r�tail building on th� ald Indianhead TrucDc Lxn� sit�, Costco is a�so proc�er�ing with a dea�lopm�nt of � n�w �tar� at the south�ast eorner o� Trunk Higk�way 7 and Louisiana Avenue in St, Louis Park. 0 C� � • Planning Office Hours June 4, 1986 Page 3 We reviewed the preliminary site plan, which provides access to the site only off Mount Ridge Road (to be built by Costco) on the c�est side of the site and Prior Avenue (also to be built by Costco) on the east side of the site. Thus, there would be no direct driveways to County Road C. The building would b� constructed of brick, as previously agreed upon, although they noted that will cost $200,000 extra. They propo�e to build the public streets to the west and ea�t of their site to th�ir north boundary at their expense. This would be done immediately, according to the City's specifica�.ions. Charlie Honchell suggested that a public �asemen�. across the north sidc of their site could temporarily provide a means of turnaround and access and egress to th� north ends o� thes� improved �treetis. We also discussed additi.onaZ right-of-way n��ds for County Road C, which is schedul�d a� a 9g foot wide tharougt�far� or� �he Ram�ey County �oad �l.an. It app�ar�d that �pproxima�+�1y 47 f�et of right-of�way exists from the cent�� line on the no�th �id� and, tt�us� approximat�iy tw� and one-haif ��C m�y be ne�ded t�a bc dedicat,�d as Part of th,i� proceriurc�. ThQ sit� plan illustrat�d t�euck loading acc�ss on thQ Qast sic�� of the structure a� th� r�r�rtheast corner o� the si�te. Wa di�cu�s�ed the �ossibi�ity nf �urninr� tho buildit�g t� �ut th� �o�ding on the nor�� side a �hi� �p�acared not to a�o�k wc�11. The advant�ge �to le�v�ing it wher� �t is, i� �hat �h� �c�ildi�� is set l�ack �ar f�u�n C�aune�r Roed C, �Qavir�q cri��llent vi�ibili�y for thca si��s to �he oa�t and �the a�Q�t of the Costco C��ndi�n�ead� �ite. "�h� loading az�c�a i� �et back �2�A fcaet �rv�m �h� ec�g� af th� p��kinc� are�x Gnntiguo�ts to �ri�r F,venu�� e suggas�od �hi� he scc:�on�� with � sa�id bricDc wa�l on the �outh �ide t tow�ord Coun��► F�a�cl C� �n� �xt�nsi�r� 2a�dsc�p�ir�� on th� �ast. "�hcy ��reerl ec� this ap��oa�ch. "T�e si�tr� pl�� inri�c�� hr�o p��c�rrt o� thca parking a�aa �o be land�cap��d. The iaui�dir�g r�ould h�vQ a threc ��ot ��a�a�t� all �he� wa� arou�d, bui�t with �rick. Th� hcaein� �nd ai�r �ond��ior�ing unit� ara �not�d �o be a�u� �our �nd �n�-hal�� Eca� e��l �nd, �13us, i� ��C'E.*t'� bBGk �iCQFtt �he par�� ed��, should be �ravisib�� Erom th� �u�ilic rlc�hes-of-wa�. `Thi� p�:opo��l wc�uld rea��ir� an �me�dm�nc t� �h�e Con�p��hansi�re L�ne3 Use P�a�n, i��c�nirtg �ram Inciu��ria� to �-4, �r�d ��apro�al a� the site pla�. I�elieve tl�i� us�, �dono thi� �+r�y, will at�rac� �driitis�r�al cor��am��s t�o �he are�, a�d tr�c�gar �dditicanal new dav�lopment, somQ o� which m�y �o adclitional, retail.. I sug�est�d that it is heal�hier t� have re�ail+�rs of �his �y�� ir� Rose�villc wh�re �h�y w,��l t�nd to �x�and the m�rk�� range �ccor�lin�t to Ro�eville. This �s �refcrata�� ta h�v�� t�ii� n�w foe;� �f :��= 1 e�t��t �n a��i��us �ommun�t�y which would t�nd to diminish the ret�i�. m�rket of �h� Roseville Cen�crs. n LJ � � � Planning Office Hours June 4, 1986 Page 4 It is important that these developments be done at a high standard, which the B-4 zone similar to that which occurredrwhenea�newTTargetlstorel was added to the immecliat� Southdale area. expanded the Southdale m�rket and That retail outlet quality development in th� immediate areae� t° attract other 4• Reqan, 770-7700 Don R�gan was in with hlik� N1cKim, of Pric� Savers, who are discount/retailers nwn�d by the Krogcr Department Store peopl�. Th�y pr�pose a 11I,000 square foot building with 800 car ga�rking ��pacity on th� S�, Paui Subuxban Bus Company site, to include th� si�� to th� north inow served by a s��arat� public cul-d�-�ac). Qric� Sav�rs are curr�ntly in S�B�tle, T�coma, agd,en, S�lt L�ke �itY, anci Anchorag�. The �tr�.c�ur�� estima�ed �t S�5 52.7 million. Cra�ig t�aldran rQuqhly calcul�tgdttax�incr�ment pote�tfal no+tinq that �ft�r fiscal disparities reduction, rhere a+o�c�,d 1�e l,ietl� t� wark �aith. t�r, Regan not�d that h� woult� proPa�� to build and 3.�a�e th� �tructur�. td� reviewed Orir�ec�ce reqvirem��t� i�-q ��n� D, ti�ing, and p�oc�dur�s. we also di�cus�ed the n�eds for �lxainag� ��sements relating to Rendi�g im��r�v�m��ts on County D►iteh 4, as �►ell �as �c�ess and ogre�s proposals. 5. Dell/�cchio 6�E-2035 J m Delvac�� Q, Atto�r�e�D �a,�s �n wieh t�iike 6r��rn a deale�r i�n c�sed �a��s, who �aa�opo��s tr� ��ructur� a� 2��0 C1evQlar�d A��a�u�. H� n�t��e '�wc�r��-ewa �c� twon��r-£iv� cars a m�n�h, i�ut keep� �Eo� renovAe�on en� �tor�c�e. T�hu�, �hc opc�r�tiar� is difEeren� f�om a"�s�d car 1��". t,�� n��ed that review his pcoposed o�ae�ation �i�h �t�� City r��ardiz�g i�� imp��t on �oning ��c��l�st�.ons. t��i-ia�aj, c�rs in a do�� abot�t Chem ir��ic�e di��it�etiy �� w�uld Aet�rn�y 6. Kann�v, �33-G90q Vern ker��ey ��v�es �t 5il H�in�3, Ariue, a�nd has dane �a for thirta�� Qer�. In 1972, a va�,rianc� was allowed to th� s�,Qr� 1�� c�ning ordi��nce to $llow ��r ehe construc�ion aff his hQme, wit� e �;ed��d s�tback ta the l�ke. et► add3.tian on the side of ehe s�ruct�tr� with a�fl��Q�os�s and �l�ck, 'Th� new con�truction conforms to c�rd�,nanc� roquir�rnents and, th�refor�, c�n �� horelir�e develaPment �ermit dir�ct�.y tarth�s�oun�il� �°��in� 7, ��; ?g�-93�� eab Pope ��ras in to note �hat the derr�lopE�s of the townhou�e at th� southeast coxner of victoria and �iighway 36 have r,ad a parting of the ways, and propose now not to develop th� site, ,Mr. Pope has an int�rest in Che site, and the sit� with the Brutg�r organi�ation. They�are�contempla�� ing a r�vision to the �ite plan, concentrating the units near th� �c�nter of the s.�t� in a two story structure of Eifty-four un�,ts, w3.th sixty unde�ground parking spaces. • � • . Planning Office Hours June 4, 1986 Page 5 This density would be.within the existing R-6 zoning, and would utilize the bonds that were sold for the project. We suggested that all of the parking and activity being on the west side of the building could prove an asset to the neiqh- bors to the east. The setbacks are 120 feet for the main structure, with 60-65 feet at the north and south ends. The previous structures were 30 feet from the easterly property line (the backyards of the single family houses an the cul- de-sac to the east). We suggested they visit with the neighbors and review this proposal before processing a revised P.U.D. Being two stories high with a gabled roof, the height would be similar to the previously proposed town- houses. The structure, of course, would be larger, but set back at a greater distance may be acceptable to the neighbors. r, ,s`��::�`ey P v;1 ��- O O o 0 �y`rh�� N � VP ,:-v � � ��OI I �I V � � �I �O � ' � � • �� O! 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IA00 N N a � = MOO � �1 " I��..r �' ��'�� ..o._ ...'"_...... s _ jl • ;- .u.. �^�, �� 1�� i �� f•_- _ * � �+� R4SEYILLE �.�. .. -_� -�.�, :, .._ L r �� a# �; �� ,,� �� .s ^� ;, _ � „. : �610 '� -•� . � - � �--J l i I' - w � ..t � .i NESOT REVISEO DATE %C-�i ��=-,�• "`�"��C_�- -- , -- -- _ '�.d�Atut�(6 c - - �? `�� 2.�.�2 � �c��_ � �c�c��=;�� =;�� I�n�� g �� ; , � � �� ,2-�6 � .X. • •-=,-n o• � 10 �I 1 I M� 12 � 13 xI 14 :` 15 �I 16 � 17 bl 18� � 19 �� 20 =_) 6�•� �� . rz-7: �c.�. - - r � '- • 3120 �\ A osmna� 3000 S u— �40i% C rou �• Z7� D � 2640 E �a�� F � �( � G � � H �— ziso� II i� I 2040 J I .._ � 920 �� K � I �eoo i.� _ � �W.. � isao .,Acorn H:4 Draper Ave. -- ' Aglen � C-D:13 Draper Drive ` Aglen S F,K:13 Dunlap St. Aladdin St. E:16 Eldridge Ave. Alameda St. I,K:16 Elmer 5t. Aibemarle St. I:20 Eustis St. Albert St. A,B,F,H:10 Evelyn St. Aldine St. B,E,J:7 _,r•� Evergreen Ct. Alta Vista Dr ! K- ;1� .�-' Fairview Ave. Arona St. �'��, :9 '4 � Fairways Lane Arthur P1. ��..r_:,._ B: ..�.� t� Farrington Ave. Arthur St. A:6 Farrington CT. Asbury St. A,B,J:9 Farrington St. Auerbach Ave. G:19 Farrington Circle Autumn St. K:12 Fernwood Ave. Avon St. A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. Bayview Dr. J:18 Fisk St. �Beacon St. E,F,J:7 Fry St. Belair Cir. B:11 Fulham St. Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle Bismarck Ave. G:19 Galtier St. Bossard Dr. H:18 Garden Av�. Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman S�_ Brenner Court A:2 Glenhill Road Brenner St. A:l. Glenwood Ave. Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Gluek Lane Brooks Circle F:19 Gluek Lane N& S Bruce St. F:7,8 Grandview Ave. Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Griggs St. Capitol View H:19,20 o�to St. Capi tol View Ci r. H:19 .,�.� r:- I�dditggton Road Carlisle Ave. J:17 ;�j��.--,a � Ham`lir�e Ave. Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 ._.: --�� I-I�n ve. Center St. K:20 ne1 Dr. Chandler St. K:17 Heinel (�le Chats�iorth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel��Pke. Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. Civic Center Dr. D:12 Highcrest Road �Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton St. Cohansey Blvd. H-J:18 Huron Ave. Cohansey St. E-G:18 Huron St. Colonial Dr. G:10 Hythe St. Commerce St. H:9,10 Iona Circle Cope Ave. G:15,16 Iona Lane County Road B H:1-20 Ione St. County Road 62 F:5-20 Irene Circle County Road C D:1-2U Irene Court County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St_ County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. Crescent Lane I:18 Judith Ave. Christy Circle E:11 Karyl Place Dale Court K:16 Kent St. Dale St. C-L:16 Lake St. Dellwood Ave. C,I-i:ll Lakeview Ave. Dellwood St. E-H:11 Larpenteur Ave. Dionne Ave. L:19 Laurie Road Dionne St_ L:12,13 k.exington Ave. Lindy Ave. �,4,1I,13 Little Bay Rd. A:17,18 Long Lake Rd. A-F:3 i t,F,L:12 Loren Rd. �:5 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 Lovell Ave. G:13-16,18 J:19,20 Lydia Ave. A,6:1,6-I4 E,H:1 Lydia Court A:1 A:5 Lydia Or. A-6:14 J:5 Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 A-J:6 Manson St. B:1 I:2 Maple Lane B:1,7,8,20 I:I9 Maple Lane Ct. 6•19 q: i9 Marion Rd. i�.� B-D,H,L:19 Marion. St. 6=I,L"�:20!' ,� � � � . F:19 • �,� �• i a�Cirticle Fc 9'r� �l�. `�, I-L:11 �r�.,.t�..,�-�i-;'�� da•�t.• � .G:� C-E,H•ll �-._.. .--= ."� r.oa.Bl'dd, N.-�J:18-20 E:15 McCa .81vd. S., K,1:18-20 E-F,I:8 McC�rons St. %!; $-D,H,K:11 G-J:2 ..��r-s.- ,, � Midlartd ��.'sve'"�td. 'y H:4 � � � � F:20 p�'-j.- . �d'Find Hills Rd. J� _� B-D,F,L:19 • • t!1'othian Rd. •�N- :8 � • -'. K:11,12 ' 8�ks Lane & Rd. J;8 ...,1`" I-J :19 Mi 1 dred Or.�� '"+ A:10 Millwood Ave:�' ��1 ,13•l� ' K-17,18 Millwood St.'- - -- � B=`l,l'� :, " ,,= H:6 Milton St. A,H,:14 `"`"� H:6 Minresota �ve. G:18-20 G:13-16,18-20 hbundsview Ave. J:17 -�"',-�� C,D:12 hbunt Ridge Rd. r`�tl�� '`. . E-H:15 Nancy Place i� Ti L.�..'�� ,-; j H;8 Northview St. . � � `!..f A-L:10 Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 G,I:19 Oakcrest Lane E:19 A-D:15-17 Old Highway 8 A-B:1-2 C-16 Orchard Lane C:14 E,H:7 Owasso Blvd. S A-C:16-20 �;7 o Blvd. W A-B:15-16 A,B,G,H;.1 xfo �. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 K-ll � ��'��`` "-` `�'� Parktr �Ave. I :13-15 F:10 �„j _ _ . . . �� Par�-3'dg d. B:3-4 K:11 +P�scal� � A-F,H-J:1Q C-D:11 Patton Rd. � A-B:1 �;4 Pineview Ct. K:16 C:18 Primrose Curve D:20 C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. B-6,I-J:5 L:11 Prior Circle A:5 C:18 Rambler Court D:18 F:18 Rambler Rd. 0:10 E,F,H,I:18 Raymond Ave. A-B:4 6:11,12 Rice St. A-L:20 C:10-13,18 Ridgewood La. N b S J:8 I:12 Ridgewood Rd. A:9 B,D,J,L.:17 Roma Ave. L:12-13,16,19 J:2 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 C,D:13 Rose Vista Ct. L:11 l;il-20 Rosedale Dr. J:3 N:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. J:2-14,17 A-L:12 Rosewood La. N& S J:3-4 I,L:22 Ruggles St. K:11-13 � Russel l Ct. B:8 : �,��, Kyan ,�...�� a �' �;9 13,17 Sandhurst Orive tt 30 �.2,14,1s,17,19 Sandy Hoak Dr. A:i7 ` Sextant Ave. F:9,10,12,15,15;ia: Shady Beach K:20 `- Sharondale Ave. I:5 Sheldon St. B,D,F:10 � Sherren St. H:11-15 Shorewood Cv. & La. A:7 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 Simpso�s St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 Skillman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Snelling Ave. A-J:3 Snelling Curve E-F:9 Snelling Serv.Dr. W B-0:8 Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 Southhill Dr. G:18 S.T.H. 35W A-6:4; G-H:1-4 S.T.N. 36 G-H:1-20 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 St. Croix G,H:2 St. Stephens St. H:2 �tanbridge Rve. B:7-8 � �tanbridge St. A:1 State Farm Road H:9 Stuber Road K:16 .S�urrner St . K:12 Tal i sinan Curve D:10 Tatum St. J:6 Terminal Road F:1-3 7errace Or. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:18 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseth Rd. B:1-2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virginia Ave. C-D:19 Virginia Circle F:19 Wagener Place k;20 Wagner St. K:17-19 Walnut St. E-H:1 41est Perimeter Dr. G:6 . Western Ave. 8-K:18 ' Westwood Circle J:4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 Wilder St. A,I:5 William St. I,J:19 , Ftillaa Circle E:11 Willa,r Lane E:11 koodbridge Circle G:20 koodbridge Court L:20 A��Ot't �i��='°�I . �r ��s. ive �.1 -14 � •iloe�l+ycx��-0rive ~_. :�-.�:. _A:9`=10; T3;�2� Mloodruff Ave ��•,�,,�., s K:18 __ .�,: , .,.,.:, :. =�°�"""' �N1�10vATIVE . . p. : � Q � MIC]�OGRAPHICS - 4D � . _ D U E TQ THE P4�R C4NDITIOIV O� T�� PRE�EEDIN� D�}�UME��' WE CANN�T .. PRQDU�E AN A�� P�A�I�� N� � CRU �! LM I NIA� �.j .. r June 4, 1986 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 28, 1986 1. Doyle, 944-5810 Dennis Doyle is the President of Welsh Companies, a develop- ment and investment company that purchased eighty percent of Don Roberts holdings in Roseville. Dennis joined George Welsh eight years ago who, according to Dennis, has built 10,000 apartment units over a period of twenty-eight years in the metropolitan area. They current].y own and manage 1,100,000 square teet in Roseville, and four to five hundred apartment units. Some of their current projects include 200,000 square feet of high tech space in Eden Prairie (169 and Prairie , Center Drive), 105,000 of high tech on Trunk Highway 5, 45,000 square feet adjacent to Shelard Park, 8,000 square feet of shopping center in Plymouth, 105,000 square feet for AT&T in New Brighton, anci 75,000 square feet of of�ice/warehouse in Arden Hills. Dennis notes they do 25-36 million dollars in construction a years. They are interested in the Paper Calmenson site, the problem of which involves an acquisition at $7 million. Cos� of removal of existing structures is estimated at �2 mill,ion. D�nnis reviewed tax increment potential with Craig Waldron, who noted the potential for payback on a low interest loan basis rather than a direct write-down throu�gh a bond sale. Dennis noted that they have a financial institution partner. W� noted the possible advantage of investing their money, with the tax increment payments coming direct as the buildings go on line. Craiq noted that approximately 45-60 percent of the increment income goes to interest and bonding �xpenses under a typical bonding program. Dennis was interested in this approach, and will review the possible concepts with his people and get back to us. Assuming a$35 million ultimate development value, 40 percent for f iscal disparities (at b0 percent) equal $900,000 annual taxes. Subtracting $300,000 existing taxes leaves a net of � $600,000. Half of that (leaving 50 percent for interest and expenses) equal.s $300,000 per year. This wi11 support a fifteen year bond at 2.5 to 2.7 million. On a loan basis, this might be up to $405 million at, say 5 percent, over f ifteen years . � � - Planning Of f ice k r� LJ r� �J Hours, May 28, 1986 Page 2 2, T�llvhaucten, 484-0159 a former prominant Eric Lillyhaugen, son of Leon Lillyhaugen, elo er in Roseville, proposes to construct a wood deck dev p w ith a roof on the front of his house �i h86ofLway�,1ealthough portion of Lakeview has a 66 foot orch His p portions to the south eaof fe°ght3feet4toward.the Lakeview would require a varianc side. This is no problem because takevieweS whicheistonetof south are substantially closer to L the reasons why the ultimate expansion to a full 60 feet is going to be impractical. d he � We noted the residents requirinq approval, and suggeste roval, possibly in time for process a minor varofn�hefCitypCouncil. the June 23 meeting 3, Abbott-Northwestern 874-5214 hom son is at Abbott-Northwestern/Childr�Wnershipp1sY�tem Bob T P Minneapolis, which is part o£ a hospita known as "Life Span". Abbott-Northwestern is considering an ansion of a program known as "Preferred Provider exp W�lch is a health care organization d�signed Organization", Most o principally for large emplQYationPareeorchav�nlbeen in the the doctors in the organiz although an downtown Minneapolis Mee�Edina/Southdaledarea a few years expansion was made in th Furth�r expa�nsion is consideredandt48theandaChicago ago. 101 and Highway 7 area, Hennepin area, area in Minneapolis. are looking for a Roseville location, and will need They 2,500 to 3,000 square feet of floor space, approximately thQy Wo�ld prefer to rent. We discussed They think it likely o ulatian characteristic statistics, Roseville growth and P P and potential Roseville locakions. 4, L�incaln Companies. 239,"4200 an �rc�itect Chuck DuFresne. acconn�anied bY Thomas Gerster, th KKER, was in �o discuss alterna��th�roldnSGlendenning wi in center development proposed �haPp g Westerl� of Midway �ord. He r�oted that Truck Terminal sit�, u several key tenants they have been successful in lining P for the �enter. W e discussed alternate waYs of handling the site plan. em hasizing the alternatives for acsoutheast�cornert�ofouth� P Road C and the service road at t e s ite. We suggested the geometrics i� ortan�ion T��Y thave driveway access points �rill be ver�raffic consultan�s, to hired Stroigar/Roscoe anc� Fausch, analy�� h� entrance d�t�ils and tr�ffic movements. ' � � ,- Planning Office Hours, May 28, 1986 Page 3 This is a sixteen acre site for which 143,000 square feet • center is proposed. Also the application would be for Amendment to Comprehensive Plan, rezoning, and approval preliminary plat. This solution includes a public street the east side of the property connecting with the street be built by the City north of Midway Ford, east/west from Snelling Avenue service road to the northerly projection the street proposed for this shopping center. �� 1.�J of an of on to the of Dave Janisch and Charlie Honchell noted the need for additional easement for County Ditch 4, which will not impact adversely on the center. We will be getting back together with them to consider alternate access and land use proposals at the south end of the site. 5. Woodbridge, 541-1000 Jim Durda, from Woodbridge, was in to discuss their street naming and building numbering system for the Cen�repointe development in Roseville. The spine raad construct�d thraugh the proj�ct, north/seuth accessing to the west side of Cleveland, will be known as C�ntrepointe Drive. Acccss at the center will be Lydi.a. The buildings on th� we�t sid,e of Centrepointe Dr�.ve will be numbered with odd nuanbers, an� on the east side wrill have even numbers. The numbers will be gen�rally in increments af 50 (2�00, 2850, 3,OQ0, etc„�). w� notcd that the build3ng furthest to th� soukh, which will be the larger �cale offic� structure near th� latt�r ghas�, can be acidr�ssed directly to �leveland Avenue, or addr�ss�d off C�ntregointe Drive. t�e suggestc�d we lcave the final d�t�rmination on thi� until such time as that area of the l�nd is d�v€lopQd. 6. wilson, 1-252-6262 St�ve Wilson is a r�presentative of Brutger Cor�pany, �nc., owneci by Dan Hrutge� out of S�t.Clnud, Minnesota� Ei� has be�n ask�d la� Hob Pop� ta assist them in deerelop�.ng th� �o�wnhous� pr�j�ct at thc southeast corn�r of T�unk H3.ghway 36 and Victar�a, whi�h is p�opos�d now nat to b� dev�loped by its o�iginal pr�oponents. �ab Pop€ is the archit�ct, and appar�ntly an in�r�stor in th� proj�ct. That project wa� on fiv� acr�s, with fo�ty-eight units af �Qwnhous�s ap�roved. The B�utgez Company is inter�st�d in picking up this p�xaj�c�, althmugh tkaey wou�,d revis� ar�d improv� th� quality of th� townhous�s progosed. They are also consid�ring otl�er options for the us� of th� land �hat might mitigat� th� imp�ct of the highway noise, and the pr�bl�ms of poor soil on the sit�. The Bru�ger Company has be�r� building sev�ral r�sident��l projects in the metropolitan �.r�a, includinc� a r@ntal project in �t. I,ouis Park and the Cr�stwood �ownhomes north of Highway 36 a�nd east of Whit� e�ar. They are going to consider opti.onal design approaches to the property. We stressed th� import�nce of maintaining d�sirable condit3ons contiguous to the single family residence to the east and the south. It is ].ikely that a new d�velopment plan proposaZ will have to be processed for this site. • � � � Planning Office Hours, May 28, 1986 Page 4 7. Knaak, 483-5431 Dee Knaak is with the Lakeridge Nursing Home in Ro�;eville, just west of Victoria Avenue, which was sold in Aug+ust of 1985 to Beverly Enterprises of Pasedena, California. These folks own and manage forty-two nursing homes in Minnt�sota. Dee notes that their program is requiring additional p�rking for their facility in Roseville. She inquired abou.t the possibility of having parking facilities across Victoria on the lakeshore, We suggested that parking expansion �:ould best be accomplished north of their site where they awn an additional ane hundred feet of frontage on Victoria. She did not realize that they owned this property, which wauld appear to be an apprapriate solution to their concern. We stressed the importan�ce of parking lo� elevelopment having to be done carefully and well, with appropriate screening and landscaping on the north side contiguous to the single family zone. 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Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats�lorth �Churchill St. ,"sivic Center Dr. :Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 82 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 Draper Ave. C-D:13 Draper Drive F,K:13 Dunlap St. E:16 Eldridge Ave. I,K:16 Elmer �t. I:20 Eustis St� A,B,F,H:10 Evelyn St. B�E��=7 Evergreen C K-L:16 Fairview e. A-C,F,J:9 a� B:6 n v A:6 arrtng o A�B�J�9 Farrington St. G:19 Farrington Circle � K:12 Ave. A,E,I:15 rn t. J:18 � k� _ E,F,J:7 •� __._ ._,.r.,.,�r � B�i� Fulham St. I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle G:19 Galtier St. H:18 6arden Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. A=2 Gler+hill Road A:1 Glenwood Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Gluek Lane F:19 Gluek Lane N S S F:7,8 Grandview Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Griggs St. H:19,20 Grotto St. H:19 Haddington Road J:17 = � 'ne Ave. C:7,9,10,18 ��,�'� �� '� Fla�d ve. �-^�.►� K:20 .._.._.. _• � Dr. K:17 ' el e A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Hersche . A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. D:12 Highcrest Road A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Nolton St. H-J:18 Huron Ave. E-G:18 Huron St. G:10 Hythe St. H:9,10 Iona Circle G:15,16 Iona Lane H:1-20 Ione St. F:5-20 Irene Circle D:1-2U Irene Court B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. I:18 Judith Ave. E:11 Karyl Place K:16 Kent St. C-L:16 Lak� St. C,I-!:11 lakeview Ave. E-H:11 Larpenteur Ave. L:19 Laurie Road L:12,13 �.4,il.13 Lit+tl� �ay Rd. i.ong �d�ce Rd. , ,L:12 Lor�n Rd. I:5,i.8.10-12.16,1� love�l Ave. J:19,20 l,ydia Ave. E,N:1 Lgrdi� Court A:5 �y�ia Or, J:5 Mack+u6in St. � A�J:6 IFt�nsan �t. I:2 b:a�p1� !�� t:14 f�p�€ Lane Ct. A:19 �xr3fln iid. B-O,N,L:I9 0�4arion �t. F:19 Il�tilda C�rele I-1 :11 �4a t i 1 dla . C-�,H:11p� � ! � �� '�, E ;15 � � �� '��l•.. 5. • E-F,I:8 •--_ __... �..�... wwt�t . s� G-J.2 �idl�nd �v� �id. F•20 9iidtand Hiits �d. �-O,F,L:I9 �idla�th;an Ftcl. K:11.12 I�id Ikik� E�ne � Rdo i-J:19 �ildred Q�. A:10 Milloc�a! �mc. K:17,18 Nilioeu�d Sc. H:5 �9iltOn St. H;6 t�inr�tsctia ��a�. G:13-16,18-20 t�nd��ri�++ am�. C.D°12 �uni Riaia�� Rd. E-H:15 Q�ar�cy Pla�ce H:8 �rthvie�w St. A-L:10 O�ktw�s� �me. G,I:19 Oatc�r�st Lane A-0:15-17 nld �ifg�:�aay � C-16 Orth�rd l�ne E,H;7 Oeoasso �lvd. S J:7 t�+as�� lvd. 5� A,B,f,H:1 O�clorfl SL. K-17 P�rker ws��. F:10 �artr�dge ftd. K:11 P�scai St. C-b:ll Patton Rd. �:q Pine�rie+r Ct. C:18 Pri�s�^os� Curve C:S.C,D:16-24 Prior P.ve. L:I1 Prior Circle C:18 R�dbl�r Cdart F:18 Rambier Rtl. E, F � H, I:18 Ra�y�+ond �ve - 6:11,12 Rice St. C:1�-13�18 Ric�g�+000d La. 11 3 I:12 �idge�ocd Rd. B4O:J,L.:17 itasaa Av�. J:2 Ra�e Place C,D:13 Rs�se Vista Ct. 1;11-20 Ros�dale Dr. H:3,8,12 Rosel��rr+ Av�. Lexington Ave. A-L:12 sewrcwdl La. �9 � S Lindy Ave. I,L:12 � les Sts �� yt,� 11 Ct. � �: a�,as A-f:3 J:5 G:li�i6,lE A,B: i,6-9� �,., � � �. 8:1 S:I,Y,�.20 B.fl9 HI:3 ��-H,t�:2Q �'; ]9 �-�.F.G:19 J:1�-20 �K��,�l.:18-20 �.��i: � � � �i :� J:� ,�,�:6 6:7-8.1p.13-15 �:�,t4 �.F�.: !4 G:1�20 J:�� A�- p: 5 GsBi:l� 6:2Q e:s-�.�i,i�,is.a� E:19 A-�:1-2 C:14 �-c: �6-zn A-E:��-16 A.C-F.N,J,K:i3 I:?3-15 8:3-4 �►-F,N-,D: i0 A-B:l �:15 o: �o �-�wI-J:5 14: 5 �:1� 0:16 A-B:� A�L : 20 � J:$ A:9 l:ll-1�,16,i9 E:2,2,7-12,15��6.18 L:11 �J :3 �:�-i�,y' J:�-4 IG:11-13 B:8 �. A � �y�n Are. J:5-7,9-13.17 Sa��9hurst �rive :10-12„14,15,17,19 Sandy lioo k Dr. A:17 � nt Ay�. F:9,10,12,15,16,18 � Beach K:20 , d,�le Ave. I:5 � S�. B,D,F:1Q St. N:11-15 5 Cv. b !a. A:7 Sh�er� ��re. .,1:5-7,10-14,15,17 �i�isofls 5t. A,8:9-IO;F,J:9 �k a A�✓e. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Sne i e�g Ave . A-J :9 9 Sn�llic+g Cs�rve E-F:9 Snelling S�rv.�r. 5� B-D:8 �r:�11 fng S+2rv.Dr. E A-a:9 Se�uthhi 11 Dr. 6:18 S.i.Fi. 3��6i A-6:4; G-N:1 ;4 S,�.E�. 3� G-H:1-20 S.T.�l. 3�f� 5�rer. !1 6-�2-4 S.i.3i. 3� Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 S.T.�4 78�1 N-J: 1 S�. �ib�r�s St. C,F,G,L:16 S£ . Crair G,k�_2 ��. �t�pher�s St. E�:2 St�nbridge ia�e. B:7-8 SEanbridge Si. A:2 Stace ��rc� Ftoad H:9 S�u�er P.taad K:16 .Sur,��r S�. K:12 7a3isc;a�+ Ca,rve D:1Q i;�E� Sr. J:6 ��r�in�l �ad f:l-3 3�rr��e Dr. C:7,10,11,1S;C-D:15-16 ��phili ��rcl� G:18 Tr�nsi� N'6ve. F:9-14,15-ZO Trc�seCh Rc�. -1-2 6�icio�-i� t. ,� 4 9fi�rgini Vi i ��1 .� .�� ag�n�r �Place , 0 G�agner St. K:17-19 6Falnu� St. E-N:1 � 9�est �'+�rir�et�er Dr. G:o 3destern ,Wve. B-K:18 6ce5t+�+od Circle J:4 4ter�ers A;oas! E:20 4�at�r� .Ade. D:15-16 4tt�cle�r .A�re. E,F:7 �heeler St. A,B,I,J:7 4�ilcler St. k,I:S �iillias� St. I,J:19 btilla+ Circle E:12 b�illora Lane E:11 itbadbridge Circle 6:2Q i�oQdbrid'ge Couri L:20 �� a�#��. ---�-�---�:�o:�a;r�s----�• bloo�r�ff Ave �� /��■ : �, II�NQ VA�'I'�E . a � � 9 � ' MI �l� � �R�PI-�I+��' :' � �� __ � - .� ,� �, ,�, � :�, : _ , � � , . .� _ �r ��_ r . . -- - : � �, � .� ,� � � . � - � , i _.. _. � �� i t� �� .� /" � • � May 22, 1986 TO: FI�OM : Jim Andr� John Shardlow SLUBJ�CT: PLANIVING OF�IC£ HOURS, ��Y 21, 1986 �. E9�ch�lke, '�38-9303 'Terry t�echolkQ c�id t��t show up for his 9:00 �a.�. appoin�c�r�+� . 2. Copaer�mi�h� 457�-�'�ll� t�r. �ae Cog�r�� owns ��a�d�ant o� Tra�nsi�t �venuo was inqui�i�eqf ��oue thcs d�r:�ancc� ��plic�tioe� for B�Qigh� �r�th�r� �h� r��u�xadl o�f ice haur prc�pereX loc�+�ed �n +th� northw�as� and Da�O S�rac��, t�r. Co�p��cs��h p�ocQdu�Q �or p�aces��ng a minar a�Qrace in dxc�s� �a� si�c f��+� �n �Atbaak area. '�l�i� �� a��Q w��as �#�. Cop�r��ni�� o � whi�h �8s ��ra �rr�al� sir�q�Q ��m�i� h�� re$�dcsn�c� a�h�.ch i� �rr►�d�a�� ac3��cor�� Q�uQ$�i�� thQ va��nce te� ��w �o�� a��Q to ��n a�� ha s�i�a��A ��c� t�i� la�. � o�w�s +�h+� �d�ac�n� lo�, w a� �t, as r�r�l� �ess h�,s �o �h�� .o�. �t� �� o ��l�d �n Q�q�h� ��ot� �a�� coa� h�� n �a� c�xp��i�,�d �h�� t�. �c►i��. �+�� wo+u�d necsd �o mecat w��h ��s n�iqh.b�a� a�c�� '��n�i� �v�r��:a, w��h�ch �s �4�� Dal�� nd Pi�. �'�p1P��$�+i�h �nd��ea�� het t�u was na� on �c�r� �ood �Q�m� w��h �h�� a�� d�� t�a p��la�� whi�� r�sult�s� �rcrn t��e �orr��uc��or+ +�� hi�� a�s� or� �� u�rQ�� o�. �'� Qx�la��ne�d ��t h� �e�c�tt�d �h� ��n��u�r�� o� �h� �+d�a��n� p�op��°t�e� �fl �►�d�r �o p��c��dl w�,�� aQ �n�n�� a+ncc pracQ�� a�+rl �th�►� �� he did �oe h�v►Q tho�e �,��u�e� � hc� wo�id �aad +�o ��a�e�Qd �ri�� ull ��►��n�e�. 3. h�iu��ra� �la�ys �iu��ay► ��s sri�csc�ul�ci �o� �� id�n��haw u�� fo� h�� a��a�inq � �.o+� �plit. �ic�. t�t�� a�a�o�.r�em�an�. 4. Za��r�l, 48��6595 b�tw�Q� Tha Za�pol"s own a l��qe �et �n wi�l��m 5�r�e�, Caur�t�f �r��d 8�r.s� Bur�p ��rQ��o, Thi� lot was Ara�r,�a��ly two �ot� � bu� the zaspcl' � com��r�ad �h� �wo lcsts �ca� t�x pur�c+s�� sevc�al ya�rs ago. T��ir �cu�resnt p►l�n is t� s�1it �hc� lat intQ tw�o, and ts� build on �ho n�w lot �c �a c��atad. , / • � � Planning Office Hours May 21, 1986 The frontage along of two lots whic However, the lot with the widths of Page 2 William Street will not allow the creation h will conform to the required lot width. s which will be created will be consistent the lots within the surrounding area. We gave the Zaspel's an application form, and explained the procedures for processing their lot split. It should be noted that the 1ot splof five feetronethed sidengyardth to request for a variance allow the lots to be created to be even. 5. Olson, 639-1293 Mr. Mike Olson was interested in information regarding the City's requirements f or the location of satellite dishes. He is proposing an approximate five foot diameter ground sited satellite dish on tk��e C. W. Trucking property. This property is located on the west side of Fairview Avenue to the north of the Mack Hotel. We explained that unless the siting of thes� facilities creates an objectionable aesthetic issue in �a business or industrial area, that it will be treated as an accessory structure. In thi� case, os��estructureuawithou� Wrequiring lot area to site this ProP any setback variances. Gordy Beseth then escorted �r��cal�permit�h� coun��r, and assisted him in processing � YP 6. Do�e Mr. Bria�1 Doyl� works with the Rausch Companies, who have been purch��sing a► numbcr of the Roberts warehous� faeilities and apar+.:m��t buildings within the community. Th�r� ar� a number of problems with 9��'�tlroblems� relat�d� to�ssetbacks� �ropertics, which inclu P structures built on easements, etc. The particular cas� which Mr. Doyl� was in to talk about was for a prop�rt� which is locat�d south of County Rea�d C, a�8g@ off Snelling Curv�. In this case, the �xisting g w� structure is built right on the r�ar prop�rty lino. explained to N1r. Doyle that in order to handle the minor r�pl�tting of the lot lines to allow Eor the required five foot s��back to th� r�ar prop�rty lin�, this land would n��d to be acquired from th� adjacent property ownEr. If h� att�mpted �o purchase this land and was unabl� to do so, we explained that it would requir� an �ntir� variance process. iie left indicating that�om theladjacentnproperty oWn�rrchase the required land ar�a f � 7, Willequette. 935-1258 Jim Wilequette, broker, and John Hartigan, Vice President of CostCo, were in to discuon th� Indianhead�Truckingeproperty. Whol�sa�.e Club facility ` Planning Of f ice � May 21, 1986 • Hours Page 3 had hired Jim Mc�and thaa • We explained to them that the City for that area, Associates to prepare a market study the June 9 some initial findings should be available bY Would uncil meeting. We informed ththetresultseof�that study Co on the definitely be interested in seeing a rezoning bef ore making any decision regarding subject property. 'scussed the available options for the financing of We also di the pub lic stre�et improvements °� bount Ridge Road:thMrr proposed development, prior Avenue and M ' an said that their basic concer�o considerepaYing�mmOge Hartig Were more than wi11ing related and that they d that if they were not able to than their fair share of tee cost f or thes� roa wa e improvements. He explain that it would b begin the project by August of this�Yeahead at a11. very likely that they may not 9 oing to be meeting with McComla They indicated that they wer� g ect, and We Associates this afte�naon to d�i�hsC��giW�ldron about the told the:m to keep in contact ��t in � fu�ure tax pote�tial for �tt�e inclus�one�Plained that their archit�cts� increment�heiprocess ofTpreparing �he submission Plar�S fo were in intended to continue to prQceed. May 31 deadline, and th�y � 8. xaufhold 489-2501. ossibility a� Frec� Kaufl�oZd �as in t°'NorthiVictoria,theThQ p�oblem wi�h splittinq his lot at 2265 �ee u@st is 'thati the new lot would have absolu�ely no t��'S q ublic street. o�aP f rontag� ossibilit� of u�ing the land fo� a W�; th�:n discussed th� F o� h$ving the land rezoned R" duplex lot, and �he possibili.ty for him �o d� �. W@ �xpl.ain�d �hat t'he most important thi�o �rty �Wn@r$� was to g�et in contact wi�h his neigh��ii�n��o ed r@�orrin�g. and to get tih�i.r feelin�s regarding an a pl�.�ation form� and W� �Xpez�ningtaPPlication. x� �� roc�dures for processing the z ments �nd p �� inclicated �hat h� would proc��d. � •� al � NI G\ g �4) +. 3 1 2 0 n rw �c :._ co. •o. •o' -- M[MY _-- i• . / Q a� + '. ' �: ";� , a000 _ 1�/n �•`� � � � / 1 � 2640 L—"� E� :s:o — ; ;= �, F ; �� :,� .� � '� �s .) �� • H - x�so �o I 'i :�� 2040 I �, �+. : 0 0 � 4 � 5 ei'l I \ : � I an�►.u� 6 m= 7!"� 8� 9'sl I 0 � I I �'! 2 �� I �� 14 � I 5 � I 6 _ I /''� '�� <Ir.�,. 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Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Clenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinei D,r. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Nighcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holtor St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circie Irer.e Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Av2. Karyl P1ace Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. :.aurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �4,11,13 E,F,L:I2 I:5,7,8,10-12,1b,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:li C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 �-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:I3-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-0:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,�,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 7 ;11-2Q N:3,3,12 A-L:12 I,L:I2 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Map1e Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Mario� St. Matilda Circle hlatilda St. t4cCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S. McCarrons St. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Nills Rd. Ntidlothian Rd. Mid Oaks Lane & Rd. Mildred Dr. Millwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. Minr�sota Ave. Moundsview Ave. hlount Ridge Rd. Nancy Place Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcr�:;; Lane Old 'ni�ihway $ Orchard lane Owasso lil vd. 5 Owasso tivd. W Oxford St. Parker Av�. Partridge �d. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Av�. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N b S Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose P7ace Rose Yista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Roselawn Ave. Rosewood La. N & S Ruggles St. Russell Ct. A:17,18 � A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,B:I,6-14 A:1 A-B:14 C D,J,L:17 S:1 6:1,7,8,2d B:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:iB-20 B-O,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 N-I:8 J;8 A,6:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,N,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 6,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,1z,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-6:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 B:3-4 A-F,N-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-6,I-J:5 A:5 0:18 D:10 A-B:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,I7 J:3-4 K:21-13 B:8 icyan Ave. �, Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hoak flr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharon�ale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simps�ns St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Av�. Snelling Curve Sne7ling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.N. 35W S.T.H. 3� S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 35 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Hlbans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Surtmer St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Yirginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter Or. Western Ave. West+,�ood Ci rcl e Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. 4lillaw Circle Nillow Lane Woodbridge Circle btoodbridge Court Noodbridge St. Woodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-1�1,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:�,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-6:4; r,-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 �-J: 1 C,F,6,L:16 6,H:2 H:2 6:7-8 A:1 N:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,21,18;C-D:25-16 6:18 F:9-I4,16-ZO B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-N:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 0:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 1:2Q A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14s19,20 K:18 ., 1�� O May 19, 1986 T0: Ji.m Andre FROM: John Shardlow SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOUFtS, MAY 14, 1986 1. Schultz 633-9057 Mr. Bill Schultz, of 1247 Talisman Curve, wa� in to descra.be his efforts to convi.nce his adjacent neighbor to go along wa.th a three foot side yard variance, to allaw him to bui].d a two car garage, where his current �ne and one-half car garage exits today. Ndr . Schultz showe�. us a drawing of his lot an!3 the existing �arage and driveway, and it apgears that ther� is a major evergreen tree between the exis�ing garage and his house, wrhich pro�ides a c�nstrain�t to constructing the new �arage nearer to his house. He also describ�d some arcrlitec- tural constraints with a landin� and a few steps which will � pose a problem for locating the new structure nearer to the hou�e. P,ccording to Mr. S�chultz, the neighbor is an elderly wom�n wha has liveci i:'che house for a long time, and simgly does not feel comfortable in signing off on the variance. We explained to M�. �chultz that it would be inappropriate for us to become involved with rendering any opinion� about what decisions the Planning Commission and City Coun�il might make regarc�ing this variance. We explained the process for r�questing a variance through the City, and Mr. Schultz left intending to discuss it with h�is neighbor further, and if he was not successful in r��olving it wa.th her, coming ba�ck to appear before the Council in Jun� for referral to the he�ring in July�. 2. Feyen, 489-0445 Scott Feyen did not show up for his appoi;,'-ment. 3. Havlichek, 489-4306 Mrs. Georgiann Havliahek was in to inquire about the possibility of a lot split for her pz•operty on Rice Street. Although she has a l.ot which is greater in size than the minimum required by the code, ther� would not be street access to the rear of her property. Therefore, we informed her that it would not be possible to approve such a lot split • at this time. , r u � • � Planning Office Hours May 14, 1986 Page 2 She also inquired about the possibility of development interest in the City to purchase her lot and the adjacent lots to incorporate into an office site. We explained that we were not currently aware of any such interest or specific proposals. 4. Garley, 483-8098 Mr. Cleon Garley was scheduled for a 9:30 appointment, and came at about 10:00 a.m. We saw him after Mrs. Havlichek. Mr. Garley owns the apartments behind Burger King, Rocky Rococo and other restaurants which front on the west side of Snelling Avenue� Mr. Garley has purchased another lot of record in this area immediately adjacent to the parking area behind Burger King. Mr. Garley was inquiring as to what he would need to do to build a garage on that lot to serve his apartment development. I explained that first of all, the lot in question was zoned B-1, and would need to be rezoned to a multiple residential use to allow the construction of the accessory structure. Secandly, that lot would need to be replatted to incorporate it in�o a larger lot to allow an. acc�ssory structure to �e located on a 1ot with a principal structure. We also explained that �he City was very concerned about the p�oblem of traffic cong�stion at the County Road B and Snellinq Avenue intersectiorr. We indicated that although there were a number of al.ternati��s under consideration, that there was the �aossibility r�f some roadway improvements in and arounci the area of this lot which would need to b� studied vexy carefully prior to any action on his request for rezoning and plat approval� 5. Conhaim, 374-9454 Mr. Roger Conhaim was dc�ing xesearch xegarding the availability o� sites for an of£ice building for Winfield Dev�lopment Company. We provided him ��aith a qeneral update of activity and interest which has be�n expressed in the ar�a of the tax increment financ��g district. 6. K�a�-ing, 633-2�72 �Ir. James Keating was in with Dick Benjamin, of Dorso Trailex Company, to discuss open storage of automobile bum�ers which occurs on the �roperty just south of Country Road C-2, west ot Cleveland Av�nue. This property has been used for this outdaor storage since 1977o without any special use permit. They are very much aware of th� development proposal which has been made by Mr. Weir in the area west of Cleveland Avenue. ' • • � Planning Office Hours Page 3 May 14, 1986 • We gave them an application for s ecial use e P p rmit, and explained to them that they would need to address issues such as screening, and also they should be prepared to discuss the timing of the use of this property for this outdoor storage use. They indicated that they would be very willing ta discuss the removal of this use of the property when the area west of Cleveland Avenue developed. 7. Miller, 377-2165 Mr. Jim Miller was in to present the results of his revisions to the parking layout for the First Minnesota Federal site, located narth of I.arpenteur and west of Lexington Av�nue. Mr. Mil�.�r was in to talk w�.th us at the previous Off3^e Hour sessior� last week, and was in to present sor�e results of his analysis of the r�de�ign of the parking lot. There will be a requirement c�f an additional s�xteen fe�t of right-of�waX along this portion o� ��exington Av@nu�, which will necessitat� sor�e form of front yard setback to pa�king f�� this redesign. Mr. Mil1�r look�d at a number of �lifferent op�ions wi�h us, and we gave him our opinfons regarding th�m. H�: wes tc� go bac}c and discu�s th@s� optic�ns witt� the First i�inr�csot�t Federal �eopTe and r�turn with their decision. � 8. Mo�qan, b�1-0932 Mr. Paul Mo�gan owns a hous� whi,ch i� located on l�farion Road, just south of the H,ighway 36 �rc:�tage Road. t�r. �iorg�n has a v�ry larg� lot, which he is i.nt��as�ed in sp�,itting, �'h�a ��wo propo�ed lots wauld m��t all of the code requiremer��s, ar�d we gave Mr. Morg�� a copy of th� ap�lica�ion form, and explained the prac�r3ural r�quirements to him� 9. �orliti, 489-78p4 Mr. Bob E'orliti resicies on C�lcCarr�n eoulovard �r��h, w#,th access off an alJ.ey from t,toadruf�. Mr. F�►rliti i� intexos��d in buiZding � h��me on ain exi�ting �latted lot i� this ar�a. He hgs plans �o b�uild a sixty foo� iong homE which, wh�� added to th� thirty foot requir�d f�o�� yaxd se�back and �hirty foot �-equir�d re�;x� yard satback, �:e�su�.ts 3,a� a sh�rkagea in the d�p�h of hi� lot. 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J ��- -�,�,,,'o� �, .,... � . � � � i �{:�ti ��1�It1'�tl � �- -M � ��,; � . � �� z� -� jJ �� i� �I � f � 9 � zo =i 3/20 � � 3000 B � e � iuo Acorn ;R H:4 Qraper Avg. .4,11,13 Lii�l� 8��' �. ��1i.�$ i��►d� A+►'�. �' 9-13,17 - �en C-D:13 Draper Orive ��g �� kd. P1wF:� � S�an�lhurst FBr'i�e �" ,i�,��,ii,19 � � K:13 � L:12 �or�+a� Rd. �.'� 5.�at�► lf�o�k; Or. A: � Aglen St. F, Dunlap St. �, , -� Aladdin St. E:16 Eldridge Ave. I:5.7.8.10-l7,16,18 �orr�11 i9tre, G:13-��+,45 �ext�nt �we. F:9,10,12,i5,1b,18 Alameda St. I,K:16 Elmer St. �:19,20 �.�Qia Plrr�. �,�'•�.�-�'� S�aat�t �a�h K:20 Albemarle St. I:20 Eustis St. .H.1 1��idi� C�w�rt W=� 51�'�'d�lt� �'ve• I'S Albert St. A,B,F,H:10 Evelym St. �� :5 �.Xdli� �'. W-�:�� . S,be�►�df� 5�. B,p,F:ld Aldine St. B,E,J:7 Evergreen Ct. . �J:b �s�u�tn St. � dy,3,t�:�7 �.� .�►��.�rer�s S�. �f:ll-1� Alta Vista Dr. K-L:16 Fairview Ave. . ,A-J•6 �� • �� `, r,i ",, �'� �'� ��- �' �'a' �� Arona St. A-C,F,J:9 � " . J.�S-7,,1�-14,26,17 Fainvays Lane . ,JI•2� ��1� �r�' �:�•�•�a� i ��r�r �b�. Arthur P1. g:6 Farrington Ave. 1:19 ��R�� ' G�• �=8� - S+�a�r�� i. I�,S:3-l�;F,J:9 Arthur St. A•6 FarringtQn CT. A-19 �'�►�'��►'�� S�itii3a�► 1la�e. J:5,6,i0-52.16y209I:7 Asbury St. A,B,J:9 �arrington St. 6-D,H,L:19 ��'��"' ��• �-�•�:� �riel�ing Aa�. A-J:9 Auerbach Ave. G:19 ''_Mrington Circle �:19 �� ili�� Gurve �-F=� Autumn St. K:12 Fernhood Ave. I-L;Il ��i�e�' ��:• �'p.�►�;�� 5'r�11i'�` "�"`e°.Dr. 3� �-d:� Avon St. A,E,I:15 Fern�:�od St. C-�,Hl:ll DGtC,�rYt� �1�v�. 0C. J:B�-� S�r�liireg r�rv.D�r. E A-D:9 Bayview Dr. J:18 Fisk St. E•7� ��'�� `��. �. �+=��°`� �Ct.t�ilt ahr. 6:1� Beacon St. E,F,J:7 Fry St. E..F�I-� d+��i+rw�S� ��. �-D.�9,�:�8 5.�.lW. �.� �+-�:4; 6-H:1-4 �Belair Cir. B:11 Fulham St. �-J:2 ��d1�f�d ��." �'a�• i�4� 5.�.��. 3b G-Fi;l-20 Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle `•20 �� y �''�� `•�'•�• �' �'�`�- �� 2�� Bismarck Ave. G•19 Galtier SL. �-O.f,l•1� ��'o��+ �� '�� S.a.E#. �& S�ror. S Fi:3-4,7,$,17 Bossard Dr. N:18 Garden Ave. !�•11,22� �� '� � ��• �»� `�-�-�� H"�' � Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. I-J:19 1��rt�'� �'• �a�:'� 5�.. �i�n� St. C*F,G,L:16 Brenner Court A:2 Glenhill Road A•10 �� '�'�'• ��"�;��+��'�� '�• G�� '�'2 Brenner St. A:1 Glenwood Ave. !::?�7.1� �� . ��,�� S�. Ste�h��r+s 5�. H:2 Broo�:s Ave. F:7,8,9,I0,12-14,18-19 �luek Lane �:6 �� - �'•�� '��"';'�'� �`'��' �'7�8 Brooks Circle F:19 Gluek Lane M 8 S f�:6 ��'"��' �'�• �=�� `��"'�''�"�'� ��• �� Bruce St. F:7,8 Grandview Ave. G:13-16�1�-2U �►nd�m�t�a� ��• �D-�� t�t� Farra� Rt��d N:4 Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Griggs St. C.D:12 ��nt I�� 'i{�• �-f1:5 S�t�r i3oaci K:I6 Capitol View H:19,20 Grotto St. �-t�:ls ��' �� '_�� '� �:.• �=�2 Capitol View Cir. H:19 Haddington Road N:8 �+T�� • �=�� '��.��'e ��;� Carlisle Ave. J:17 Hamline Ave. �-�:�0 ��t ��'�'• �:��.�1.��•1�,8� i�[s�a► S�. J:6 Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Hand Ave. G.1:19 ��*�'� ��'�' �=a9 ��'�'� �� '�"3 Center St. K:20 Heinel Or. A-D:15-P7 �H� ��' � �'��-� i�r'Y'�c� O�r.' � C:7.1�,11,1�;C-D.15-16 Chandler St. K:17 Neinel Circle C-l6 �� ' G��'� ��`�°��j c�"��' ��8 '',. ' s�� "��:.�< � A-�:l6-2`� lfr�r�s�ft A,v�. .' F:�-1�,16-20 , 5;:-� Chai,s�,eacth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. E,H-7 �$ Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Nerschei St. J:7� ^ �.' ,;�� "�- � �"'�'��`��' ��'��' �'�• g'j"2 Civic Center Dr. D•12 Highcrest Roa+� �►,8.�.�1^1 , �� S�a `, �.t=�'.�,.�,�:1� �Ti�[pri� SC. E�-L.Z� •Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. K-17 ��r�e'� �.��• ,� B;1�I5+ �C�v�a�ini� C��re. C-U:19 Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton St. f:1Q �'��"��'� �• ��'� '�i+r�gi�+�a� C��cle F;19 Cohansey Blvd. H-J:18 �iuron ,4ve. !�•11 �'��$� ��• �-��•�=�� c�rt�r F'�.�t� k;20 Cohansey St. E-G:18 H�uron St. C-D.fil R�tt�a 8�• �-�=H 6f�gn�r ��. K:li-19 Colonial Dr. G•10 Hythe St. .i•4 �`��'�� • �� lr►+u� St:. E-N:i Commerce St. H:9,10 Iona Circle C:18 I�r'la�s,�' C�+r� 0��0 3�st �er°i��ter Qr. �:6 : Cope Ave. G:15,16 Iona Lane C:5,C,0:16-ZQ ��°��r �,�. �-�.�-�i.5 �stcrn 1�ve. 6-K:18 County Road B H:1-20 Ione St. L.11 �'r�a�' C��rti� �:5 tlG�tor��3 tircl� J:4 County Road 62 ..• F:b:20 Irene Circle C:1$ �1�r C�� :�� 'i�w�*°5 �sa�s� �:2�D County Road C �.� "b:%:2f7 t Irene Cot��'t Fo 1$ �iblcr IRd. 0: �Q lY'��t�n �ve. D:15-16 County Road C2 B:1-7,9-�2,12 ;14,19,20 Ireae St. _; •.•. E*F,N,Y:18 it�� W'�r't'• k=�s�1 �eei�r C'+me. €,F:7 County Road D A:1-7, 16 ' Josephine��td!i``� 6!llf�2 R�e� �t. �-L:2'Q 3�ler at. m,B,I,J:7 Crescent Lane I:18 � Judith Ave. C:10-13,1� Ri+d�ood ��• � 8 5 J=$ �i1d�r Sn. A,I.S Christy Circle E:lI Karyl Place I.1� ` i�� • �.� 3ii11i� '�� I,J:19 Dale Court K:16 Kent St. 6.O.J,1.:17 R+o� J�rrt• 1=��-13,16,�19► Ntf�la+a Circle E:lY Dale St. C-L:16 lake St. J:2 " �s� Plat�' �:1,2«�s�2',��5.1�+1� 6Rillprr L�ra� E:11 Dellwood Ave. C,I-� :11 Lakeview Ave. C,0:13 � i�o�s�!' '��st� C�- �.11 �r�i� Circle 6:20 Dellwood St. E-H:11 Larp�nteur Ave. 1;11�-20 i��rd�il€� t�rr. J:3 �lo�odbri� Ca�rt L:20 . . . _ Dionne Av �. L:19 Laurie itoad H:3,8,12 R�Os�eia� �rr�. �1:2-Y�,�7 '�oadbrid�t� St� A-�,;I s2� -�:, -�:�: , . :+, .Y.. � '" . Dionne St_ L:12,13 Lexington Ave. A-L:I� IAoslw�c� L.i• �� S J'<�4-4 11a�odhill Drive U:11-14,1i-18 . . �= Lindy Arre. I.l:l R�gq1�23 St. �C:li-i� �1,�� rive A:9-30,13,14,19,Zi1'.' ." � ;;:=•:, Ra��S�11 CL. 8�:� 'I�drnufi d4v�. K:18 .� -. . , �«� � � * � � � .• � May 12, 1986 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 4JEDNESDAY, MAX 7, 1986 1. CostCo 935-1258 Jim W�l�qu�ti�, r�alror, was ir� with Dava McCarth�, repres�n��,kive from t�till�r Con�Lructiion Company out of 5t. C1oud, t��inn�$ot,�, to r�view plannin$ application r�9uiremQnt$ and r�gulatir�n� r+�lating �o tih� prop�sal to construct a new CoskCo re��3.1 out�le� �n th� 9.62 acae Ind�anhead '�rucDc Terminal si��:, GharliQ Honchall �nd Dave Jar�i�cri a1s� rr�vio�rQd �%th tham p�ocoduras �nd requ.tromQnt� �-�latinq �a �hs� p��ti+tioninq �o� ��c� ,im�arc�►v�mon� tor �hr� co��i�quou� public �troot� �n Me�un� Ridge �to�d and Prior Avenu�. T�Qy a�� aqra�able �o an al� bri�k �r��ucture, which wa pro�sr� ta b�e pr�cQ��c�e� a� a�-4 � �or��, which wili r�c�ufc� �h�n� pc��c�nt o€ th� parkir��q ara� ko � 1�►ne��c��d . �1a not+��i �h�a si�� a��n i� gubje��: �� p�c,i$l u�$c� �rmi�, and dlscus�� wi �l� �h��i �h� nc��d �o sc�rQQ� +�ha �cc�� ap a�vip_ rn�n�:� p�gofarabl� B��► �on�r:r�►ct,ing � p�ra�� w�2� t��c��on o� t�ta� �r�ck w�ll p�� 6�€� roo� �ir�a �. �e nott�� th� imgo��t�n�� c�i` a� �a�11 danQ �e�nd��ap�a pi��, �u�g�Q��in� �t�� a local �endl- �cap� ��h�+�� tte hired, '�ha�y r�c�+�e�d that� C��o �� bu,�I�dinq� a��e��c� in S�t. Lau�s �a�k �� Hi�t�w�y 7 ar�d �cau�i�l�na� �►ve��u�. Th� �er�c�tar�a is �p��xir�a�c�l�r �10 t�� i��r �� Ceet�, ��u��i�n� �06, QOQ squar� �eei:. we �l.�p di�cu�sQd �hQ $�g�n �c��u�x��r,c�n�s, �o��ng �h�e a siqn largQ �nough t:s� b� �t��c�:c�d �,a c�.�c� r�,i�� ram t�ha f��e+��y �.s na� � l lowe�c� . Th@y� no�Qd �h�t �► pr�c� e� ��.2� wa� �a�id �o� tho sitQ. A �+�1� cion� �rick �truc��t witl� �o�d �,�r�d�sc�pinq, with fully curbc3d pa�t�tr�q ar�as a►nd r�a� � c��d�a�ys �� the c�aat and rao�t � o�iantac� lo co�sume�r trad� wi11 be s�r� as��t ts� con�iquoa�� «ur� dewalcapme�nc. it snvui� �aa� �� a n�w ��r�� t�z�r bas�d a,� c��r �x�rai ien�c wiE:h �@cent ne+� Taxget s�oxe ia�,�l�iti�s. The �i��in� �r�ll li.koly bQ appr�priat8 fo� � subm,��sion �o t2�Q Plaraning Commission Ear �he �uly mQetinq. Plannin Of f ice Ho• g urs, May 7, 1986 � Page 2 • Charlie Hanchell noted that the street and utility improvements done by the City would take approximately 120 days to process. They noted they might be willing to do the stre�t work themselves, in the interest of savinq tzme. This would be complicated by the fact that others benefit fro�n the street improvement, and that Moun� Ridge Road should be extended northerly as iar as Iona, and thence westerly to Cleveland Avenue. This will open up the interior of this block Eor development, a prospect that has been oppase�l by Pete Qetrowsky, President of Hyman Mator Freight Company. � � 2. Mu�ller Paul t►9ueller is a xe�l�y agent with Merrill I�ynch, and wa� ir� ro di�cuss �he possibility of r�zoni�g the northw��st carn�r oE Larp�r��eur and St. �lUans Stre�t �o high den�ity, mu1*i- family housinc�, ko construc+� an ap�r�m�nt cotnpl�x. This p�oper�y, excTu�iv� of �ho lot conl•iguous tr at. Albans Str��t, is shown on �h� Comprehensiv� �lan as rn�diwn de�nsf.ty r��iden��.�l. The Io� n�xt tio S�. Albans (w�st �ida nf �t. A�t�e�s) is shown as ain�le i�mily�� with th0 anCicip�,tion it woulci div�,dod into sinc�ler family la�s that w�uld f�ant towa�d �he eest or� �L � Albans. �ho 1�►nd �hown ae� m�dium density residen�f�l �onatit�ut�c� ab�ut �'.18 aere�, whc�r€�a� t,he �ot�al Pi�c� Iir�cludir�g thcs sing�o family ar€��a n�� S�� Alban�� w�uld b►� �.�3 acres. we no�ed �hat it wau�d �ik�l� k►� d��ficul� �o mak� ��hangQ c�f zona on �hc� str�mt, ar�d �th�t �hc� h�gh c�c�r��f �ty mul�i-[a�milg� mi�h+� ��11 ba rasistQd b�r �he �inq�n €�n►il� homeowns�rs. �e� �ug�es��dl, hoa�tsvor, �ta�� i�f ali �h� i�ouse� �rt��er� �o ba pickcd u� on tha s�as� sido, �hat would m�kez a�i��if�cant c�i�f�zQr��Q. �a na�c�c�, howc��vQr, �ha� th� �i�y 1� r�ot � r� thc� g�er�e�c�l g��i��on v� �n�cau�ec�ing olimina- �lon �t �#�n�1Q �a�ni�y hou��t��. �►Q �ug�c��tcsd th�� c��n�ity o£ �:on uni�s pc�r ��r�, whi�h would br� �llow�d by �e�o�ir�c� t� �he �t-� ��s pro��d in �h@ CQm��ah��iVa Pl�n1 �a�u�d p��+�i�� r��or��blc� salu��o�. 3. Fir$� �Din�c�s�ta �3�-6126 �rucc� �Q r�a��i�, Pr�ap�a: �:y �1�na�Qr�, �ncl P�ul SaifQrt, ��anch f�1&t1�QE?t , o,f ��,�`S� ��,�tlflos0�� "�C�t3�8� �e�o0�hg8 �,f3t� I,t'8t�, WQi't�! �.tZ wi�1� ��rn ti1�ll�r �� rc�vier� �ro��c�:� �c�r �ro�,��h at tho,i� sit� b�tw�an �h� �i� K�g1�t h�►�seiun p�opaz ty �nd �exin�ton Avenu�. �hQ�+ i�ave� l�Qan r�e��ti�t��nc� w�t;h th� n��+ o��rne�r of th� Kuqler �tus�um p�r�pc�r�y t� pu�cha►�o, k�u� h�v� nQ` �uccQed�d as o� yA k: . '�hc�ix �Lr��:ur� has �,b00 scg►�ar� ioe� on ti�� first floor, and �, 54Q sc�u�i� fa�e� on �ha s�co�ei tlon� . Th�y nota that they a�e� not ��ing �h� secor�d tlo�r [or of�ices, hut for a �amm�r:it�� a::^�, I�unc��, �nd restro�ms. Tha pFap�� nas �hi��:��two parki.ng �pacc� now, �nd cauld pos�ibly b� aci�ust�d iw.i�.h comp�c�. parking) to app�rc�x3.mal•e�ly forty-thr��:. They laav� ��x�c�n t� ��ven��n �mploye�s �naximum (so th�y not�). i • Page 3 u�s May 7, 1986 Planning Office Ho , V ro erty, including our ast history of this 1� p We reviewed p urchase the land when it was � attempts to encourage them to p for �85�000. At that time, available by the Schubert Society having met had called the President of Minnesota Federal, had na we resentatives who said ise75 feet with Minnesota Federal's rep The Kugler property rovide power to make the decision. revious reports) p by 183 feet, and could (as noted in p reasonable method for virtuallY, the only They want to add excellent and, employees have expansion of the faciliindow�n tlnsthetpast, an additional �lrive-up ark aver in the residential area on been instru�ted to P Dionne 5txeet, a practic� now terminated. q, Ternes 571'a221 Dick Johnson, to Gretchen Ternes �as in with hc:r builder, noW adjusted to review tinal revi�ions to their siteparking, and landscaping acc�ss► at an provide adequate drainage• bay�s will b�o °�1tof ti�eutcontiguous features. The 14ading angl�, and they have th� Written aP� the City. souti�erly prop�rtY QWn�x a� requested by of f icing 5, yatteral 633-8000 W�e�e Keller built E� erb �a�t�eral is a re�ltor w��nd�Hannlineorporat on, ad at �h� sc�u�hwest cornex �n B��. R�cently Herb Latteral a round of€ice buildinq whiah Was waoden fence �oxn do�� °�`ov�� p�ocess,s�d�e no�ted the a� hedge rQquired in the original Gaps� anei �he impact of a Cy � �ence had be�n damagea �Yro £r�� ;he south owned �Y growing Q� C°�ti�g�'OUS h�ri� riumber at h�s residence is 631- 8�nd�1. H@ndel's teZ�F H�;rb believes that 0019, and� at hi.s ��xk i� 8��-8815. bec�.use the reinstalling �h� ��'�`�@ �0�� cons�.d�rable@screening• h�dge h�s grown up � P�`a'�idin9 Gardi� B�s��h gnd How�ard Dah�9khe hedgetco ld As r�que��d� We find tha si�� o o��rve ��back so�as/to p�'ovide space ta r�constime� be r�aclily �rimm built. In the winter the f@nce a� t��'�genc��ill contin��.� nd the�Par}cingelot on particu1ar1Y� i�ome a scr�+�n b@'�ween ��o �ice�sit�e. �,�e sou�h sid� o� al �itc �plan call�d iQr a 4� asgaeseries�ofh bumper Th� Qriq�n What is �h�'r� oured �l�n� ��e south side. We ��g�s�ed tc� I�r. Latkexa� �ha'� a��woiand one-half s�aps. 1a��d apprQximal:ely er stop i� place curb shot�ler�y �ine so as �a pravide a b�P r��t fromnti� p�op and make a clear d�13�neation between gax �he a g ar�i�g� tiie south side of the �he asphalt and �h� isnto 9et�b�ck with He�eia and inform him lat. Gordie Beseth o� our r�:commenda��oi�. � U � Plannin Office Ho• Ma 7 1986 9 , Y , 6. Anderson, 633-8563 Bruce Anderson is a propertg� owner Place Shopping Center. He was in to regarding h�s drainage in the rear question� of the new fence to be built the shopping center. • northerly of Pavilion review with us progress of his lot, and the along the north side of He notes that he gat ten load� of fill from the Waldron Compang�, earth movers, and that this is helping with his drainage prablem. He noted that Steve Merz, from the Weis Cc�mpany, has cooperated with him regarding tY�e handling of the drainage. His principaT. reason far visiting with us was to note that the residents alang Oakcre�t (contiguous to the shopping center site) da not want a gate in the fence to be constructed. He says that a petition is being prepared by property owners to the north wha want pedestrian access directly to the shopping center via Aldine Street right-of- way. We noted that we were not aware �f such a petition, and that the original consensus as reparted ta the City was that the cantiguous neighbors did not w�nt a gate, and that the property owner did not want a gate eithera That is wher� it stands at the moment. 7. Olsan, 636-37b0 Jeff Olson was in with Jerry Heater, realtor and potenti3l awner, inquiring the buildability af a residential lot on the east side of Victaria 5treet contiguaus ta Lake Qwasso. We noted the ten foot setback requirement and the normal requirements for front yard, rear yard, and lake shore zon- ing. P,s we have previously told the c�wner of this 1ot, perhaps a year aga, we �uggested that i�he first step would be an accurate survey af the property, inasmu�ch as we can't tell prec;isely fram the air phatos or the section maps exact locatian of the hign water line, and thus the actual depth (east/west) af the lot. 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L�y,,.�� REVISED DATE �U�� _I��— isso ► i ti f t� fr' �� C� C� ��—�� -- ,— `. r� 2-T-T2 DWS I �r—�%�r--�r—� I I�I �I ol��l yll <I�1 �II 'I �I I�� r �_��OOC�OC� .� C� i� _ i2-26a . x ! •—, �--� �--, � i s ,��/� 4-29-T DJ ;� �� "i �� 3 $� � 4 �) I 5 �� I 6 �I 17 hl I 8 � I 9 aI 20 '� ,�,p. n �� «W Ac'.orn , aglen , Aglen S . Aladdin St. Aiameda St. Albemarle St. Albert St. Aldine St. Alta Vista Dr. Arona St. Arthur P1. Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. Avon St. Bayview Dr. Beacon St. Belair Cir. .Belmont Lane Qismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Ch�ndler St. Cha tsriorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. �Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Corrmerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B Count� Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy �ircle Dale Court Dale St. uetlwood Av�- Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Cionne St. H:4 Draper Ave. C-J:13 ,4,1I,13 LittTe Bay Rd. F,K:13 Draper Drive Long Lake Rd. Dunlap St. E:16 Eldrid e Ave. ''L�12 Loren Rd. I,K:16 Elmer St. I=S��'$,10-12,16,18 �ove11 Ave. I:20 J:I9,20 Lydia Ave. A,B,F,H:10 Eustis St. E,H:1 Evelyn St. A.5 �Ydia Court B,E,J:7 Evergreen Ct. �,5 �ydia Dr. K-L:16 Fairview Ave. Mackubin St. A'�+F��=9 a-�:6 Manson St. g:6 Fairways Lane I:2 Maple Lane A:6 Farringion Ave. I:19 Maple Lane Ct. A,B,J:9 Fa•rrington CT. A:19 Marion Rc�. G:19 � Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 Marion St. K.:12 Farrington Circle F:19 Matilda Circle A,E,I:15 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 Mat;ida St. �:18 Fernwood St. C-E,H:11 McCarron Blvd. N. E,F,J:7 Fisk St. E:15 McCarror, B7vd. S. B:11 Fry St. E-F,I:8 McCarrons St. I:10,11,16 Fulham St. G-J:2 Midland Grove Rd. G:19 Galtier Circle F:20 ' Midland Hills Rd. H:18 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Midlothian Rd. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Garden Ave. K:11,12 Mid Oaks Lane & R A:Z Giesman St. I-J:19 Glenhill Road Mildred Dr. A:1 A:10 Millwood Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 �lenwood Ave. K:17,18 �Mil7wood St. F:19 61uek Lane H:5 Milton St. F:��$ Gluek Lane N& S H:6 Grandview Ave. Minrtesota Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q G:13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. H:19,20 Griggs St. C,D:12 Mc�unt Ridge Rd. H:19 Grotto St. E-H:15 Nancy Place J:17 Haddington Road H:8 Northview St. C:7,9,10,18 Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Oakcrest Ave. K:20 Hand Ave. 6,I:1g Oakcrest Lane K:17 Heinel Dr. A-D:15-17 Old Highway 8 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Heinel Circle C-16 Orchard Lane A,C,D,F:13 Herschel Ave. E,H:7 Owasso Blvd. S D:12 Herschel St. J:7 Owasso 81vd. W A:9,10 N�ghcrest Road A,B,G,H:1 Oxford St. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Nilltop Ave. K-17 Parker Ave. H-J:18 Ho�lton St. F:10 Partridge Rd. E-G:l� Huron Ave. K:11 Pascal St. G:10 Huron St. C-D:11 Patton Rd. H:9,10 Hythe St. J:4 Pineview Ct. G:15,16 Iona Circle C:18 Primrose Curve H:1-20 Iona Lane C:5,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. F:5-20 Ione St. L:11 Prior Circle D:1-2U Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene Court F:18 Rambler Rd. A:1-7,12-16 Irene St. E,F,H,i:18 Raymond Ave. I:18 Josephine Rd. B:11,12 Rice Si. E:11 Judith Ave. C:10-13,18 Ridgewood La. N&; K:16 Karyl Place I:12 Ridgewood Rd. C-L:16 Kent St. B,D,J,L.:ll Roma Ave. - C,I-�:11 Lake St. �}:2 � Rose Place E-H:11 Lakeview Ave. C,D:13 Rose Vista Ct. L•19 Larpenteur Ave. i;Il-20 Rosedale Dr. L:12,13 Laurie Road H:3,8,I2 Raselawn Ave. Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Rosewood La. N& S Lindy Ave. I L:12 R : uggles St. Russell Ct. A:17,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,8:1,6-14 A:1 A-6:14 C D,J,L:ll B:i 5:1,7,8,20 6:19 H:3 B-r,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 d. J;8 A,B:6 B:7-8,10,13-15 B:1,15 A,H,:14 G:1$-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:I3-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K: I6 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-B:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-1�,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 B:8 e Ryan Ave. -� Sandhurst DrivE Sandy hoak Dr. Sextani` Ave. Shady Beach SharondaTe Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Sne77ing Ave. Snelling Curve S��lling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Sumrner St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virginia Ave� Virginia Circle wag2ner Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Wi11ow Circle Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Woodbr.idge Court Woodbridge St. Woodhill Drive . Waodlynrr Drive Woodruff Ave. 7,9-I3,17 :10-12,14,15,17,19 :17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 I':11-15 A:7 J:�-7,10-14,16,17 A,B:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I;7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4, G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,i? H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:l H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:5 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:l G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-1G E,F:7 A,B�I�J:7 A,I:5 I,J:19 E:11 ' E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 r A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K:18 t • � � �J May 5, 1986 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PL.ANNTNG OFFTCE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30, 1986 1. Co_ stCo,_935-1258 Jim Willequett is a realtor looking for a si.te for CostCo Warehouse Di�count Refiailers. We have met with him before, at which time he had proposed to place this facili�y on Reiling's land north of City Hall, which we discouraged. We suggested the redevelopment of one of the ald truck terminal sites north af County Road C, between 5nelling an3 Cleveland. They are now investigating the passibili.ty of acquiring the 9.82 Indi.anheGd Truck Line site north af C, Easterly of Cleveland. The site is being acqui,red at $5.25 per square foot� and the development would include a 109,154 square f�ot building, with 778 parking capacity (544 required). If they are approved, they agree to build a brick structure (all four sides) and would attempt to prepare the appropria�e plans and documents, which we review, for submission to t�e Planning Commissi.on in July. Th� site is bounded by the right-of.-way of Mount Ridge Road az�d Prior Avenue on the west and the east. Charles Honchell and Dave Janisch reviewed with them the requirements and procedures for petitioning the improveme.nts of these roads as a part of this develQpment. We reviE�wed with them the implication� of the extension of Mount Ridge Road, and the potential for redevelopment to the north and west. They agreed to dedicate additional right�of-way to achieve the forty-nine and one-half foot standard applicable to County Road C, and to the construction of six foat sidewalks on County Road C, and possibly Mount Ridge Road. We suggested a B-4 zone as an appropriate objective, nating the requirement to amend the Comprehensive P1az� and rezone the land (currently zoned industrial). We feel that this use will be appropriate in this area, and wi11 instigate additional redevelopment in the area. 2. Stenalein, 633-6944 John Stenglein and Mark Murlowsk' with Paul Behr, repres�r�ting th feet of frAntage on the north sid single family lot was part ot a which included the two lots to the f amily some years ago. i (Belair Huilders) were in e property owner wrio has 250 e of Transit. This existing previous three lot �lat, east, platted by the Behr � � Planning Office Hours, April 30, 1986 Page 2 Mr. Murlowski proposes to tear down the existing house and garage, and dev�lop the land with three single f amily • residences. TY�e question is whether or not this existi.ng private lot could be divided into three lots without replatting. Conferring with Charlie Honchell, we concur that inasmuch as there are three existing sewer ar�d water stubs, and no dedication required, division by this manner wou13 be practical. These l.ots over frant Central Park, and are very desirable. �elair Builders is luoking for single family lots in Roseville, and have done a cre�litable jab in other develop- ments in �he City. We suggested he call J�.m Casey to look at his property, inasmuch as Casey was coming in tha�t afternoon and de�ires to dispose of his property. 3. Holmctren, 633-233_4_ Don and �orothy Holmgren live in Roseville, westerly off Hamline north of Highway 36, and are contemplating purchasin� a new townhouse in Ferris Waods, which Art Mueller is developing on Dr. Peterson's property west of Gluek lane. They were in to learn more about the background to this devela�ment, and our opinion as to wh�ther or not it would be an appr�priate location for their townhouse investm�nt. We reviewed the development Y�istory of �he area and suggested that this, inaeed, wa� a gaod place, and that to our � knowledg�, the developer and Dr. Peterson (who are in some form of partnership) wauld pursue a quality development staged over time. �.J 4. Nacey. 488-0494 Ron Nace,y proposes to tear down his existing 17 x 30 foot accessory garage in his back yard, and build a new garage with 940 square feet in relatively the same positi.on as the previous garage. The new garage, however, will be three feet fram his rear property l�.ne although it is actually six f�et from his rear fence line which, by agreement with the contiguous cemetery owners, was lauilt at tha�t location. Technically, however, a minor variance is required for which we reviewed pracedures and requirements. The rear yard setbaak requirement is five feet. We al�o review�d the square footage of the prc�posal as it relates to the requirement that not more than twenty-five percent of the rear yard (rear thirty feet) be occupied by a structure, and concluded that his structure would conform. 5. Woodbridae, 541-1000 Dave Wier, President of Woodbridge Devel�pment, and Jim Durda, his assistant, were in to dicuss progress on the Woodbridge Development, and testing for origins of a diesel fuel leak that showed up in a manh�le of Nortk�western Bell's system on Cleveland Avenue. The PCA has been contacted, and appropriate tests recommended by them are being conducted to ascertain the origin of the oil. Sue Nordstrom, from Dave Wier's organization, is handling these tests. LJ Planning Office Hours, April 30� 1986 Page 3 • We also discussed with Gordie Beseth the numbering system for buildings to be constructed in the Woodbridge "Centre Pointe" development. We agreed on utilizing the City's overall numbering system, utilizing generally numbers divisible by fifty, such as 2800, 2850, 2900, etc. Thus, the address for most of the structures would be such a number on Centre Pointe Road. There is no other street in Roseville lining up with Centre Pointe Road. Raymond Avenue is further to the west, but would constitute a much less desirable roadway name for the development. � U 6. Edina Realtv, 836-3760 Dave Kringel and Terry McDonough from Edina Realty, at 2780 North Snelling, were in to discuss a possible new location for an Edina Realty office in Roseville. We talked about the northeast quadrant of County Road C and Snelling (Bill Fine's property) and other properties appropriately zoned in the City. They, of course, want high visibility, and are willing to build a relatively large office structure. They will review the alternate locations suggested, hoping to find a successful solution soon. 7. Casey, 489-2259 Jim Casey owns 3.4 acres of wooded, rolling land north of the east/west portion of Victoria Avenue (across from Resurrec- tion Cemetery). He is desirous of selling the property and, in particular, his existing home. If he does not find a buyer for all the land, he would propose to plat the property into approximately three to four lots, and retain the remainder. He suggested a lot pattern that would include the extension of a strip of land out to Victoria to serve his larger parcel next to the Zittel's property. This strip would go through land unsuitable for access, so we suggested that solution not be pursued. We noted Belair Builders interest in single family develop- ment. Mr. Casey agreed to get in touch with Mark Murlowski. 8. Ternes, 633-2834 Gretchen Terness was bacic with Dick Johnson, of D. W. Harstad Company, (builders) to review another revision to her site plan at the southwest corner of Fulham and Terminal Road. She proposes placing the building further to the south, with the parking at the northeast corner of the site (nearest the roads). The layout conforms to all requirements, and will work. We requested, however, that before the City approves this layout, that she get a written statement from the contiguous single family owners to the south who, on the basis of the previous public hearing (at the time of the rezoning) assumed the building would be further north. � Being contiguous to single family homes, this development will be subject to a site plan approval prior to building permit issuance. • • � 6 • Planning Off ice Hours, April 30, 198 Page 4 9. Federal Express Danny Dean, Heather Paiper, and Pete Gerzen, representing Federal Express Company, were in to discuss a proposal to build a business service center near the Fastbank site at the northwest corner of Highway 36 and Fairview Avenue. They propose a 6 x 10 structure on a concrete pad, to function as a drop-off for Federal Express packages. They note that Federal Express does sixty-three percent of the overnight express business in the country, delivering 670,000 packages per night. They do this by running fifty- six 727's and eleven DC-10's in and out of Memphis, Tennessee every night, and back to their respective cities for delivery the following day. Their building included a proposal for an antenna addition on the top on which a sign was printed. We noted that signs are not permitted on a roof structure, and that the antenna would not be approved on the roof of this small structure. We also suggested the signs be simplified to improve the appearance of the structure. We noted the need to have an analysis of the parking as relates to the shopping center square footage, so as to ascertain the adequacy of the remaining parking. 10. Westbv, 484-6784 Jim and Gail Westby live at 480 Lovell. Gail is the daughter of Ken Fabynski, now residing in the f amil� home. They propose to purchase the property directly north of the church, which at one time was redeveloped for a funeral home. ,This lot is directly south of the cul-de-sac on Lovell, and was oriqinally proposed to be two lots. The width is 170 feet, and would appear easily divisible. They're considerinq the possibility of app�ying for a duplex construction on the westerly most lot. This lot would be bounded on the west by the school property, the church at the south, and their second lot to the east. We suggested that this procedure could be followed by developing a plan for the site, showing how the duplex would work on the site. We suggested they discuss this with the neighbors in the area before proceeding with such a proposal. We noted the Council's policy to allow duplexes throughout the City as alternative housing sites, where conditions warranted. 11. Halverson. 464-298_5 C, W. (Boots) Halverson, his wife Pat, Steve Saunders, his wife Patty, and Steve Saunders, Jr., were in to discuss redevelopment of the McDonald's site on the west side of Snelling Avenue Service Road. Steve Saunders wants to develop a Kentucky Fried Chicken structure on this site (northeast corner) which would be leased by him from C. W. Halverson. ,' � Planning Office Hours, April 30, 1986 Page 5 . We pointed out the importance of planning for the ultimate use of the westerly half of the site which is undeveloped and zoned B-1. The undeveloped area is approximately two and one-half acres, and will be further landlocked if a new structure is built north of McDonald's. We stressed the undesirability of purposely landlocking the parcel further, and that a more intelligent approach would be better for the landowner and the City, involving the prepara�ion of an overall plan for the site. We discussed the flexibility and purposes of planning a development concept, and that a public street not necessarily be extended to the westerly portion of the site. Mr. Halverson had not realized the possibilities for such access methods. • � We also reviewed the situation with respect to the bowling alley to the south, suggesting that if the land were yet available, that he might consider putting the two together. Such acquisition would materially improve the accessibility of the westerly portion of Mr. Halverson's land (the B-1 zoned area�. Mr. Halverson noted that his lease on the McDonald's franchise has twelve years to go. During that time, the McDonald Company has the first right of refusal if he were to put any of the land up for sale. He, therefore, does not intend to do so. The staff had a good chat with these people, and they seemed very amenable to considering an overall solution, and appreciative of the purpose and results of the meeting. The parcel measures 657.43 feet in depth, with a frontage (on Snelling) of 301.61 feet. 3000 8 � �� eeo � � � ) 2760 / / � D� � 2640 :s �w .t i , E auo F 2�00 G z2so H 160 ' zoso J 1920 K �eoo "� ol 4 '° 5 p '� � .� �,..,,� � � ol ol > �� 7 � � � � �� - -�� i ��--� 8� 9 r� � Q � � � .� � r--�,-� -- � �R' ~ � ��I ;� � � 9 i:�� ca'a . �l`��= ` j . r� ��-1 L�—H i� _�1 f 1 n • � �r y ►' \ i+ � � I ' � 4" � _ � ., - �o I L.��_�o .o. f.� L�� `�--e V. . :_ � ( � �^ � I{� il. . I T�+cL� � i Ua �� ----,, , - � S`T�' C� � ` � �� _—' =--_---- J � =_•-� - - l .u��.� " T `� !��i �I �� 1 � U: , , •�nnc 't� I � I ouu t n t 'I � Hqa .Jq � t .o.i .�.cc � L1 � l� L.J' I� i -i • �..� -�—�,'� _ � I �I ; : a �� _ .. '`�s�1'� : ; - � :! : o -�t �Q � 1 s �I co Re. . 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Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. Avon St. �Qayview Dr. Beacon St. Belair Cir. Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. ChatsV�orth Churchill St. �- Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,�:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:T8 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-2� D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,I9,20 A:1-7,22-I6 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-� :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:Z2,13 Draper Ave. Draper iiriv� Qunlap �t. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Faiw►vays Lane Farrington Ave. Farringfion CT. Farrington St. Farrington Cirzle Fernwood Ave. Fernwo�od St. Fi sk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesma� St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gl uetc Lane N& S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto �t. Haddingtan Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Or. Heinel Circle Fierschel Rve. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Awe. Lindy Ave. ,4,11,13 � t, ,L:I2 I:5,7,$,10-12,16.18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 R:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:lI C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J:2 F:20 8-D,F,L:19 K;ll,i2 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 h:6 G:13-16,18-2Q C,0:12 E-H:1S H:8 A-L:10 G,i:19 A-D:i5-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,N:1 K-17 F:10 K:12 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-Zi� L:11 C:Z8 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:21,12 C:10-13,18 Y:12 B4O,3,l�.:17 J:2 C,0:13 ] ; I1-20 H:3,8,12 A-L•12 I,L:12 Littie 6ay Rd. Long Lake Rd� Lor�n Rd. Lavell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Or. �ckubin St. t�anson St. Fiapl e lane Map1e Lane Ct. I�ari�n Rd. �ta�-�or� St. Matilda Circle Matilda St. WkC�rron Bivd. N. F+kCarron Blvd. S. tacCarrons St. Midlan� Grove Rd. Midiand Nills �d. Hid1othian Rd. t�id O�ks Lane b Rd. Mildred Qr. Millr�ood Ave. Pfi 11►+ood St. Milton St. MfinrE50t3 A�e. hbundsview Ave. F�ou�t Ridg� Rd. Nancy P1aCe Northvie++ St. Oakcr�3t Ave. Oakcrest L�ne Oi d kt i ghw�y 8 Orchard Lane Orrasso Bl vd. 5 Os�rasso B3vd. 1J Qxford St. Parker Ave. Par��Sdge Rcf. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pinevier� Ct. Primrose �urvQ Rrior Ave. Prior Circle Rarr�l er Court Rambier Rd. Rayrr+ond Ave. Rzce St. Ridge�rou� La. N b S Ridger�ood Rd. R� Ave. Rase Place Rose ll�sta Ct. Rasedale Or. itoselarm Ave. Roseweoa� La. N & S Ruggles 5t. R+usse�i 1 Ct. �1:27,18 r9, A-F':3 � J:5 G:13-1b,18 A,8:1,6-14 A:I R�-8:14 C D,J,L:17 �:1 B:I,i��,20 6:19 N:3 B-I,L.ZD F:13 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-2D B-D,ii, K:11 ai : 4 J:3 H-pI:$ Jyv A,�:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 d�, F!, :14 G:1$-ZO J:17 �- Q: 5 G,N:14 B:20 E:5-�,1I,12,25,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:Z6-20 A-B:IS-Z6 �,C-F,N,J,K:I3 I:13-1� 6�3-4 R-F,N-�:10 R-6:1 K: lfi D:10 B-G,i-J:5 A:5 0:18 D:lti A-E3:4 14-L : 20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,I6,19 E:1,2,7-i2,15,1s,I8 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 6:8 Ky�n Ave. � Sandhurst �w�-� San�y Ftook Dr�� 1 S�xtant Ave. Shady Beaci� Sharondale A��e. Sheldon St. Sh�rren St. Shoret�ood Cv. b La. Shryer Rv�. Sirs�sons St. Skillman Ave. Srtelling Ave. Snelling �urve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Sn�lling Serv.Dr. E Southhill �r. S.T.H. 35ld S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. P� S.T.N. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 220 St. Ai�ans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State F�rr� Road Stuber° Road .Stmmer St. Tal isenan Curve Tai�n St. Terrninal Road Terrace Or. Tophill Circl� 7ransit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. 1lirginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagt�er St. Wainut St. �est Perimeter �r. �lestern Ave. f��stwood CircTe We�rers �oad Flheaton Ave. 6Jheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Kijlaa Circle Willosr l.ane 4ioodbri dge Ci rcl e M1�on�dbridge �ouri tloadbridge St. Floodhill Drive bdoodiynrt Dsive Koodrvff Rve. 5-7,9-13;I7 . tl:10-12,14,15,17;19-- A:17 F:3,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 i:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,J.7 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,5,10-12,15,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:g G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-N:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: i C,F,G,L:I6 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 0:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-6:13 F:19 k;2� K:1;-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-ls E,F_7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L :•20 A-GsI:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,23,14,19,20 K:1$ f �/ • April 30, 1986 T0: Jim Rndre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING 4FFTCE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23, 1986 1. Gro�9��-07_60 �hQ is working Jim Grobe is a realtor with his own eamp�wners of Northwest for Marv Wolfenson and Harvey �etner, Tennis Clubs. They purchased, the Pavilian Place Shopping Center site from Dayton-Hudson about twelve years ago, and planned a retail and tennis center, which was approved by t�h�= City, �fter which they sold the site ta Jo� Weis, Pavilion Pla�e. Naw, ��Grobe is looking �or a site for a Northwest "Athletxc Club �n Roseuill�. Northw�st curren�ly has eleven. hea�lokinlufor�attenaac�essit�: the Metropolitan area. Th�Y 2�re 1 9 in �tosevill�, po�'tians o£ whic'h wr�uld be twa �o th�ee �toxi�s }��.gh, with a building of 1SO�Qc1�� business Shas��changed Gxob� notes that the t�ennis W�t� drastic�lly, away fxom emphasi�s on t�nnis courts, greater empaP�sis on k�eal�h care equipment, physical fitness, � and racque� bal�• Their clu�as pr�c�ss 1,500 to 2,p00 per�ans u per day. �de xevi�wed potent3.a1 sites in Raseville,„ It �o of cou�se, ditf icult to get a�ood �ite with that �.cr�a►ge. W� emphasized redevelopment Pa��hichlma�ibe1for��sa�.�k��gThe som� exi�'�ing �lubs in the �rea prc�blem with th�ose, Qf course, �,� that �heY �r� tpo small in scale. On� vf the sites sugges�ed�alla �where�wet�x'ec�ntly George Reilinq sitc: north of Ci Y suggested there anot be a whol�s$le warehou5e type retail f acility� 2a Saunders �64-��5 Steve Saunders owns a Keratucky' e�i��&sibl.��w�y�r��c��ich he Forest Lake, and w�s back t�o r�vi 1� could dev�lop a site��in Rosevil].e. �e �Whoao�ra�s�tha hl�Donald Halverson (knawn as BaQt iialverson), 5ite, which i� a parc�l with 301 �T�us�fthi.snisgalr�ost��l�ive Avenue, and a d�pth of 657 feet. ► acre sit�, th� w�sterl� h�Z� °f�mall�"�lSDonald's�Playgrt�und"I proper��cy is occupied only by a The nartheas� co�ner of the aers wouldSpraPose to teargciown shop. This is where Mr. Saun t�� doughn�zt shoP and d�vel.oP a Ken+�uck�' Fried �Y�icken s"core. C� • • Planning Office Hours, April 23, 1986 Page 2 r� He presented a site plan, showing the store and parking Aoccupying the remainder of the ��3 zone land (directly north of the McDonald's site). We explained that the problem witl� this proposal is that it seals off the westerly nalf of the site, ignoring it as though it didn't exist. We reviewed some of the optional methQds of providing circulation to this landlocked area, and suggested that the City would be concerned about any new development that would more permanently isolate the s:tte. Apparently the problem is that the McDonald's organi�aerha sasexplainslwhy nothinguhas been all the site. This, p P► dane with the site all these years. � � We suggested that perhaps a meeting should be arranged with the City and Mr. Halverson to communicate our concerns so tnat, hopefully, something intelligent can be done with the land over a�period of time . 3. Russe,ll; 370-584�. Forrest Russell is a land�cape architect with the Target organizatior�, and was back to re��few site conditions and our joint concerns regarding a plan1�d limited expansion of the Targe� store. Charles Hon�hell explained the status af th� attempt �o acquire rig�ht-of-way for th� diversion of the service roadThe the northeast coreser of County Road B and Snelling. di�'f icul�� lies in acq+uiring right-of-way from the car wash sit�er which includ�es � strip of praperty running from the car wash westerly to th� �ervice road. The ea�t/west portion of tY�e rerauted searvic� road involves this area of land, as well as access �ondi�ions �Q��icultrto$maketthis�workhwellteeven very sma�ll. a�d it is �i i� �he righ�-of-waY is acquired. We sugg+�sted tD�at a11 three of the businesses in this corner, the car wash, t�e small office building, and the gas station, are all or� tot�ll�y f.nadequate si�es, and the best solution for ev�ryone (including the owners) would be to acquire all three o� these, and pu� the praperty baek on the rnarket as a single siteo Such a site might well be the most sought after site in �tosevill�, if available. This is likely the only method for handling th�t�erbusinessesWthat exist�ut seriously affecting al�. three of We also reviewed the right-of-wa�y needs on the north side of County Road B with Forrest Russell. He indicated their w�.l�.ingness tQ dedicate an additional nine and one-half feet, so as to constitutorthtofathe£centerrline ofdCountyaRoad��Bt of right-of-wray n Plannin Office�ours A ril 23, 1986 � g ► P Page 3 � Mr. Janisch suggested the access to �he north of the Target sit� could be moved, so a� to line up with the narth/south route on th� east side of the parking area (in front of the store). He no�ed, too, the need for a forty foot triangular l�.ne of sight at the corner, which could affect the design of the northwest corner of the building. The expansion w�ll occur at the north and west side of the building, near the northwest corner. � �' J Mr. Honchell will let Mr. Russell know regarding the outcome of the acquisition attempts. Mr. Russell then indicated their willingness to adjust to whatever free access conditian results. 4. McDonald,� 339-5508 Robert McDonald is an architect with Arvid Elness, hired by Mid-America Bank to take a preliminary look at potential changes for their site at the northeast corner of Fairview and County Road B-2. Plans presented did not indicate expan- sion of the building, but rather reorientation of the entrance, and expansion of the parking toward the southerly portion of the site. We discussed, with Charlie Honchell and Dave Janisch, additional right-of-way needs on the south and west side of the site. To achieve the forty-nine and one-half foot standard on the west, an additional six and one-half feet would be required. To achieve the forty-nine and one-half foot standard on the southeast side of the site (next to B-2) eight and one-half feet will be required. We noted that these dedications, if given, would not affect the setback to the existing parking. We noted, too, that additional parking location would have some flexibility depending upon the particular layout achieved. The drawing presented suggested that these additional rights-of-way dedication would not create a problem. Though Mr. McDonald could not agree to the dedications, (as an owner) he suggested they should not be that serious. These dedications would accommodate the additional right-of- way needed for the ��ike path. Existing driveway providing egress to the drive-up lanes appears to be thirty-four feet in width. This is built with curb and gutter on Fairview. We suggested that could be left at that width, and curbing could and should be added within the property for these and other driveways to be changed. 5. Reilina, 483-1941 George Reiling owns approximately southeasterly of Victoria and Owasso subject of dispute with the Corps of need for a Corps of Engineers permit, certain lands could be filled. a five acre tract Boulevard, which was a Engineers regarding a and the extent to which 23 1986 • Plannin Offi� Hours, April , g Page 4 George brought in a preliminary' plat and grading plan, noting • that the DNR has established an elevation of 886.8, above which land could be f.illed. He notes that the Corps of C • Engineers intent to with the Reiling. elevation is at 887.7• The grading plan indicated fill the land down to 886.8, thereby not conforming Corps of Engineers standard, as indicated by Mr. The shape and widths of the lots to be created are affected greatly by the extent to which the shoreline can be filled. Therefore, we suggested to Mr. Reiling that prior to bringing the proposal to the City, he should establish, in writing, from both the DNR and the Corps of Engineers the extent to which filling will be allowed. The grading plan should then be prepared indicating the elevations to be proposed. A sub- division design can then be prepared, utilizing that property in a reasonable way. We suggested that, particularly in view of the difficulties with the Corps of Engineers in the past, (ultimately resolved for the time being in court) it would be better for the City not to get in the middle of it, but pass on the subdivision after the extent of the land to be developed is known. Mr. Reiling said he would proceed on that basis. 6. Murnane. 936-4585 Tim Murnane is with Opus Development Corporation, and is continuing his interest in seeking deveiopable sites in Roseville for his corporation. We reviewed the status of tax increment properties, and other land in the City potentially available for nonresidential development. We noted that the City is particularly interested in an overall development of the land north of the County Road B-2 extension (west of 35W). We suggested the City would give maximum cooperation and support to such an effort, producing some highly desirable, developable parcels. Mr. Murnane will continue to explore possibilities in Roseville, and will be back to us in the future."" 7 � Mor,,,_,ran � 228-4450 Tom Morran represents the Space Center, and was back to review preliminary proposals for the development of a central structure between the two existing structures, on the far west side of the City. This involves the vacation of the westerly extension of Terminal Road (between the two buildings) and the southerly extension of Highcrest Road. Charlie Honchell reviewed, with Tom, the vacation procedure. The existing structure is a 1,050,000 square feet, and the proposed structure is four stories high, with a 175,000 to 180,000 square feet. The building will be designed by the Architectural Alliance, and will be connected to the two existing structures, thereby not requiring a P.U.D. Plannin Of f i� � , g e Hours, April 23, 1986 Page 5 • The additional buildings on the side were built between 1961- 63, with thirty foot ceiling heights. Sperry later added mezzanine levels to expand the f loor area. Sperry's expansian is supposed to be ready by late 1987. Mr. Honchell noted that the vacation of streets will leave the streetlights as their responsibility. Arrangements should be made d.irectly with NSP for their continued use and service. " 8. Pierzina, 297-4663 Brian Pierzina owns a house at 2379 North Victoria, and proposes to put an addition, containing two bedrooms and a living roont, with a full basement on the back of his house. The addition conforms to setback requirements, but the front of the house is currently only twelve feet from Victoria. Thus, a minor variance will have to be processed in order for the building perma.t to be issued to expand this nonconforming strucutre. 9. Knopak, 487-1481 Duane Knopak was back to review his proposal to build a new garage on the north side of his house at the northwest corner of Shryer and Dale Street. He's decided to change the plans to add only an eighteen foot addition to the existing garage, reserving the possibility of splitting off the northerly half Sof the lot at a later point. It appears that the distance from the existing house to Dale Street will require a minor variance. The center line o� Dale Street at this point is forty feet from the right-of- way, so no additional dedication is required. 10. Benson, 542-9907 Jim Benson is a realtor with Benson, Malkerson, and Bradbury, Tnc., a corporate real estate firm. He was in with Matthew Nicoll, Executive Vice-President and General Manager of the Minneapolis Division of Vantage Companies. Vantage is a nationally known real estate investor and developing company, on a par with Trammel Crow Company in terms of stature and capability. They are interested in Roseville, and particularly interested in the Paper Calmenson site. The site has been appraised at $7.9 million. Mr. Nicoll made an offer for the 32.43 acres, approximating $4.53 per square foot. Incredibly, the taxes on the property are $340,000 per year. Craig Waldron recalled that in our first meetings with Frank Collitti, that we had suggested they apply for a tax reduction inasmuch as that tax is based on the value of the buildings when they were being fully u�ilized for an � aut�mated steel fabrication shop. The estimate of land costs, including demolition, would be about $7.9 million, equaling $5.60 per square foot. � Plannin Offi o • g ce Hours, April 23, 1986 Page 6 � Jim Benson presented two preliminary analyses of development potential and cost, utilizing a tax increment to defer a portion of the capital investment. The analyses, however, did not include provisions for fiscal disparities, and thus needed adjustment accordingly. Assuming an increase �r floor area ratio to thirty-five percent (initia]��y calculated at thirty percent), an estimated cost of struc- ture at $65.00 per square foot (originally estimated at $60.00�, total value would rise to $32 million. With taxes at 4.3 percent, increment could be $625,000 per year (after fiscal disparities). Based on a taxable bond, this might achieve a$5.132 million loan. Craig also reviewed with them the alternative of a direct write-down at fifty percent of the increment after fiscal disparities. The proposed use of the land would be offices and office service. No specific proposals were reviewed. We noted, in answer to their questions, that access would be worked out so as to serve the property efficiently, but that an access point on Broadway was felt to be crucial (thereby reducing traffic movements on 280 itself). They exhibited considerable interest in this site and the City. We encouraged them to think positively in terms of their establishing a development role in the City, noting that the City felt their role to be one of providing help and assistance toward successful solution, as against ! contributing to the problems to be overcome. 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Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View C Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Ch�ndler St. Chats�iorth Churchill St. •Civic Center D Clarmar Ave. �fleveland Ave. � Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road BZ County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St, H:4 Draper Ave. C-D:13 Draper Drive F,K:13 Dunlap St. E:I6 E7dridge Ave. I,K:16 Elmer St. I:20 Eustis St. A,B,F,H:10 Evelyn St. B,E,J:7 Evergreen Ct. K-L:16 Fairview Ave. A-C,F,J:9 Fairways Lane B=6 ington Ave. A:6 4��.is� �ngton T. A,B,J:9 G:19 ington ' e K:12 Fernwood Ave. A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. J:18 Fisk St. E,F,J:7 Fry St. B:11 Fulham St. I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle G:19 Galtier St. H:18 Garden Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. A:2 Glenhill Road A:1 6lenwood Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-24,18-19 Gluek Lane F:19 Gluek Lane N& S F:7�$ Grandview Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q t, H:19,20 r r. H:19 + a i d J=17 Ave. C:7,9,10,18 Hand Ave. K:20 Heinel Or. K:17 Heinel Circle A,B,F,G,J-L::3 Herschel Ave. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. . D:12 Highcrest Road A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. � . G - Holton St. Huran Ave. w->-�-��• � ,. Huron St. G:10 `w Hythe St. H:9,10 � Iona Circle G:15,16 Iona Lane N:1-20 Ione St. F:5-20 Irene Circle D:1-20 Irene Court B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. I:18 Judith Ave. E:lI Karyl Place K:16 Kent St. C-L:16 Lake St. C,I-�:11 Lakeview Ave. E-H:11 Larpenteur Ave. L:19 Laurie Road L:12,13 Lexi Ave. Li Ave. ��i�A�1.91'��/ c� .... ._...�.�,...�.� �,4,11,13 �, ,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 � G,I:19 � A-D:15-1 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:i K- �i�� ri� F: K �' - ...�.�-..� C-D,11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 1;11-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,L:12 ��3�� .,.v.... _..._._,. -,_...... Little Bay Rd. �ong Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Loveli Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lyd�a Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Matilda St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron E31vd. S. McCarrons St. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Hills Rd. Midlothian Rd. htid Oaks Lane & MiTdred Or. Millwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. Mint�Esata �ve. Moundsview Ave. Mount Ridge Rd. cy Place No iew r t Av . e t lane hway 8 �. . A:17,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,18 A,8:2,6-14 A:1 A-6:14 C D,J,L:17 6:1 6:1,7,8,20 6:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,6:6 6:7-8,I0,13-15 6:1,19 A,N,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 � G H•14 PineviewvCt. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Roselawn Ave. Rosewood La. N Ruggles St. Russell Ct. N&S &S � � � - 15,]�z ,� A-B:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,N,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:12-13 6:8 •�� nyan Av ,9-13,i7 Sandhur 0-12,14,is,1�,19 Sandy H . � . 7 Sextant Ave. F:9,10,12,15,16,18 Shady Beach K:ZO Sharondale Ave. I:5 Sheldon St. B,D,F:10 Sherren St. H:11-15 Shorewood Cv. & La. A:7 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,17 Simpsons St. A,B:9-10;F,J:9 Skillman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 Snelling Ave. A-J:9 Snelling Curve E-F:9 Snelling Serv.Dr. W B-D:8 Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 Southhill Dr. G:18 S.T.H. 35W A-6:4; G-H:1-4 S.T.N. 36 G-H:1-20 S.T.H, 36 Serv. N G-2-4 S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 S.T.N 280 H-J: 1 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 St. Croix G,H:2 St. Stephens St. Stanbrid �� Stanbri . A� State Farm Road � Stuber Road K:16 ! .Surtmer St. K:12 Talisman Curve D:10 Tatum St. J:6 � Terminal Road F:1-3 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11 8; -D:15-16 Tophill Circle G:1S Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 Troseth Rd. B:1-2 Victoria St. A-L:14 Virgi3h'�� 19 Virg� f � Wagensr-. l,ace._�..� �;� Wagner St. K• -19 Walnut St. -H:1 West Per�meter Dr. G:6 Western Ave. B-K:18 Westwood Circle J:4 Wewers Road E:20 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Wheeler St. A,B,I,�� Wilder St. A,I:5 William St. I��=19 � Willow Circle E:11 Willow Lane E:21 Woodbridge Circle G_20 Woodbridge Court L:20 Woodbridge St. .,�°I'20�y.� �., Woodhill Drive � �� 4�7e�,$�~� �.s ..}{�.� �� ; 20�; - Wo`�. _ '� .s a� K:18 odruf�f sAtr r,��f ` ''�"""" INN�VATIVE . . �. = � Q � MI R R . C O G APHICS 0 4 D . ■ aUE �O T�I� l��OR �CJNDIi�I�I� QF iHE IPI��CEE�IN+� C�C) �U i�1 EN� W E�e��1(U C�T �'RC�DI��E �iN A��EP'TAI�LE M I�RU �f LM I M,�G �.� � April 30, 1gg6 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFZCE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 16, 1986 1. Merz, 926-2646 Steve Merz is the Project Manager for Weis Builders, builders of the Pavilion Place Shopping Center. Steve in, at the staff's request, to review the status of landscaping and :Eencing program for, north of the Shopping Center. Most ofrtheulandscaping put in last Fall, but sodding remains to be done, and construction of the fence. 2nc., was their area was th� Bruce Anderson, who lives 1708 Oakcrest, was also at the meeting. He is concerned about drainage an the south his lot, wk�ich can and will be corrected this Spring toaallow the water to flow westerly toward the the west is Linda Hetland, at 1716 Oakcrest. Lincla�hasibeen in touch with Gordie and us regarding the design and height of the fence. She notes, and Bruce Anderson agrees, tk�at though the berm constructed hides the immediately behind the berm, the slo e of t�earking area leaves cars further distant visible from thefrpahomes and yards. Steve confirms that the fence to be constructed is a six foot chain link, with green vinyl coating, which was agreed upon by mos� af the neighbors at the discussions which took place last year. That fence wi11 be located within two fee� of the property lYne, leaving two feet on the other side, cor►tiguous to the neighbors' back ards. the�r wou].d not want to put another fence on topVaf�thed berm� but would prepare a coniferous landsca in screen the parking and the lights thatpare ofaeoncernnto the Andersons and the Hetlands. Steve agreed to go to the site with Mr. Anderson righ� after the meeting� to look at th� drainaqe question and review the site lines �o the parking area. We noted that the on-site solutiori to the drainage and the screening can bes�t be worked out between the grapearty owners. This approach is agreed upon, and Steve Merz will return to the City with a plan for the City's review. Steve noted that the shopping �ent�r l�as been sold to a sYndica��, but that Weis Management Company wi11 continue to � manage the center. The manager is Gregg Comte, operating out of the Rochester office, at 507-288-2p41, Gregg was with the Center Companies and, according to Steve, has considerable experience in shopping center management. Plannin Offic�e Hours A ril 1 � g , A 6, 1986 Page 2 • 2. Koch, 645-1515 Mike Koch represents Gary L. Stenson, who is a developer originating from Devils Lake, North Dakota, who has done projects in Devils Lake, Grand Forks, and Jamestown, and is looking for a developm�nt site in Roseville for Seniar Citizen's Housing. He showed us examples o� the previous projects, for which Arvid Eln�ss was the architect. Ndike no�es that Gary at onP time worked £ox Holmes and Graven. He is an a�torn�y, now working largely as a developer. We reviewed various prospec�a.ve sites in Roseville, that are praperly zoned and/or plann�d fo� multi-family housi�ng. He may be back a.f he finds an appropriate site. 3. Knopak 4�7-1481 Duane iCnopak �.iv�s at 629 Shryer, at the northwest c�rner of Shryer anci Sk�.11man. He progoses to canstruct a 25 x 36 garage (tree standing) on the northerly ha�.f o€ his lot. H�s lot and others �o �he west have double frontage on Shry�� and Skillman. W� noted that if he does this, they would eliminate the possibility af ever dividing the lot, so �s to pravide frontage on Skillman, These lots are 217 feet in d�pth, anci alt�nr�ugh the 1�ats wou�d be shallow, it is physica��.ly ps�ssilb3.� to elevel.�op a series of �.ots from Dale Str�et westc�ard to Alameda Street. We �ugges�ed he discuss this witl� his neighbors, tc� eonsid�r tt�is pc�ss�.bility befo�e committing to � his own �onstruc�ian. Adding the ga�age to his side �aould require a v�ri�nce tU legalize the �ed�aced setl�a�ck th�t the pr�sent house has on �he east side f�r�n�age �� Dale Street. �hi.s Goulc� be handl�c� as a minor variance, anc� is no� tihe i,ssue. 4. S�ha,tzl��.n, 333-3838 �ill Sch�.�zieir� is with the �r�u�son �on�tx�uction Comparty� $nd has been working �i�h eob VanSlyke (b9�-6544), manac�er of the Golden Ag+� l�ursing Home, regarding pAtenti�l exga�sion of th� nursing h�me ta the �ast, acros� �►�bert 5treet� Mr. Schatz].ein notes th�t the r��sing ho�e ha� pur�ha�s�d sQv�ral of those single family residences, and the question is whether 4r not it would be appropriat� tca expand into this resid�ntial area. we reviewed, wittx Mr. Schatzlein, th� Ci�y's policy x�eqarciing redevelopment c�f �ingle �amily hom�s ar�a, noting th�t "an overwhslming majna�ity" of the residlents would have to accede to the deveiopment pr4posal. W� gave him a written copy of th� policy. We noted that all the neighbors wauld be involaed in the decision, and that w� would pr�:fer ar� overall solution to a piecemeal approach. Their con�ept is one of providing integrated Seniar Citizen's car� in relationship to �Y�e � existing facilities in the Golden Age NurSing Home. Mr. Sch�t�lein nated a comparisofl to �he Walker Dev�lopment at 37th and Bryant in Minneapolis. �ased on our discussions, he will discuss this approach with his pri.ncipal.s and those irom the Gol.den Age Nursing Home. r� U � Plannin Office � Hours, April 16, 1986 Pag�e 3 We expressed concern about the economics of acquiring the homes, inasmuch as the lots are relatively small. 5. Pope, 291-8894 �ob Fope was in to discuss the possibilities of the "Price Savers" Wholesale Glubo out af Salt Lake Ci�y, redeveloping the St . Paul and Suburban Bus Company' s s�.te r�orth of County Raad C, and the land b�hind it, for a"Wholesal.e/Retail Center". The total. pxaperties would constitute 10.07 acres, of wha.ch 3.21 are in th� rear, and 6.86 fr�onts on Caunty i�oad C. The northerly parcel i� the or�e that has the access via m fifty foot cul-de-sac off �ounty Road C, and butts up t� �ounty D�itch � on the nor�h s�de. We �ee this as �n ar�a� where suGh retail facilities could �xp$nd, asstunir►g th� development is done with xeasonable q�a�lity, which we stressed witk� Mr. Pope. Th�� ar�a gen�rally, L�etween Cleveland Snelling nortY� af C, we se�e as a�oter�ti�tl r�development area to high+e= ir�tensity busine�s u�e�, gradually r�placing the olcier �ruck ternnina�s which domina�� this ar�a. w1e no�ed that the rec3ev�lopm�nt of such a parcel woul�i invo�v� an �rner�dment to ti�e Compr�it�r�siv� Plan, and r�zoning of th� lar�d from ind��riai tca bu�inc�ge. Such a plan ar��r�dm�nt might b�e ��n�idere� at �P�e sa�� ime, when ��n�ic��ra�ion is c�iven t�o tta� Lincoln Pgop�r�y'r� Shopping Ce�t�r and th� �p��e� �c�ntQr' � o�f9�ce buildinc� on the old G].endenn�.n� s�.te C to �.he eas� ). 5. S�u�dets,� 464-2985 �t�ve Saund�ex� wa� i� wf�th Rick Pc�Fin, who �zopras�d t� k�u�.lc3 a K�ntucky �'rimd Chick�n o�tle�t nortt� �i �icE?ona�c�'s on �he si�e �urr�n�ly occupied by M�.�t+��r Dartu�, Th�y �iscets��d �. propo�al sicni3.ar �o that whict� ha�t %een cQn�i.d�rc�d s�vt��cai yc�ars aqo, which includc�s building t�a restaura�� i��s an tll� proya�r�y �►ith joir�t pa�king fac�Iit��e�. The land! ir� owned by Clarenc�c �i$lv�rson, ow�n�r of Ch� M�Dr��ald' � Ex�n� Ghisa. w� @�cpress��1 aur cae�c�rn� and th�y agr�ecl, ��g�rd�ng thc� d�velopm�n� o� t�� w�st�rly ha]�E cf thi� }�roparty, whi�h i� x�n�d H-1. i,►e suggest�d that prior t� any mar� devc�la�m�nt or r�d�v��.opm�nt o� �h� 1�nd, ther� �hould k�e �ra c�v�rall plac� �howing h�w� th� tatal property car� �e �f �ici�satl�t a�d wisel}� used. we a�lso rrated the prospaGtiv� chanq� with r�sp�c� to �h� i��dlinc� �118y praperty to the south, nating that ideally if �kh�s� t�ro prope�ti�s coulc� be pu� �ogfl�t��r, a more etf�:ct3ve d�ve�.opment p�an cauld be ach�.eved. The total McDor�alci parcel, including th� si�e to the nox�th, is �ive acres and, �hu�, ther� �.s a s�ab�ta�ntial opportunity h�re for intelligent redevelopment. They are going to investigat� th��e options further with the owners affected, and will be b�ck to see the st�ff at such time as th�y have any preliminary proposa�s. 0 �� ,� � Planning Off�ce Hours, April 16, 1986 Page 4 7. Doyle, 944-5819 Brian Doyle represents We1sh Properties, who are L�aagiIg properties sold by Don Roberts to Peerco Partners, One of the properties sold is an apartment �tructure nartheasterly of Snelling Curve. This is a trapezoidal shaped piece of 1and, for which a survey has been prepared. This �urvey indicates fence lines ai�asmuch as�theycalso buildings, located off the property. own and are transEerring title to contiquous properties that are affected, we suggeste� that they simply adjust these property lines so as �o�ndinciM�+WiDoyle� agreed ao that appear ta be on the g approach. On ��e sauth�asterly side of the property, there is a fenc� wh�c� is 1Qca�ed two �eet in�o the contiguous pro�erty to th� southeastir not owned by �he parknership. Her� we suqgested they make �rra��ements with that propert� owner to pu� the pz�p�r�y �in� �n the f�nc� lin�, or move the fe�c� so tha� it i5 fln th� �pp�opri�te lin�. W� sugg�$ted tha� ta t�ansfer titl�. l��ving ��Y of �hes� problem� unsolved, i� wrong, �nd C�$t th� City would r�sist, �hi� kind of ad�u$tme�t in prop�r�� lin� c�n b� ha�dn�d are�any�o��t�e 1o�sosubs�andarde ar� no n�w lots cre��d, 8, �ouck, 6�8-391� �ob �o�c� ��s in wit ��r��al'� d�ci�io� tha th�ir �as�m��t �paca �t rQviewmd thi� lator w cam�►��r�i�1 basemant �pa� b� sprinkl��c�d. Hm ha� Cit� that eprir�3�lc�r$ mus with Mr. �louc}e �he a�s��ta�tc� in f ir��ncic�g h�is par�n�r to ��s��8� th� Fire � ��ore must b� sprinkl�rs �dd�d to thQ �ld Gilfill�� rdware site. W� ith gruc� Ry��n, who not�� that a avar 1,50� �q��re �� n ar0a must no�ifi�d own��rs c�f �uch ��ace in the t b� ins�alleci. HQ h�d ai�a �aviewe�d possilbility of somQ farr� of Cit� �ilowab�� Eo� �wch a� proc�xa�m. Mr. ��u�k was c�nc�rr�c�d that, aut. ��o �$��d hi�n tha� this Rasevi 11� Fi ��e �9a�sha 1 has a a�pplic�tiar� ko c�ut}+. p�1Ck'1�rp8 r�� w�8 beltlq sin�glad :�.►�� not �hQ cas�, �nd tha� the rmput�ti�n fo� i�,��grity �nd 9. Ks�Cc��.�,6,36-$0�0 F�ce�d K�t�ar was in with w�d�'��t�prolim�.naryh�d�v�loysm�� D�v�lo�m�nt team, ��d sho �lan consi�tir�� of fiv� propos0d �s�ructur�s aa foll�ow$. Sldq. 1a 81dg. 2. Bldg. 3. Bldg. a. �lcig. 5. Sq. Ft. �0, 04� scy. �t � ?5, 000 sq. ft. 100,000 sq. ft. 150,000 sq. ft. 200,000 sq. ft• �to . af Storie� 4 stories 5 stories 6 st4ri�s 9 stories 14 stori�s Noe o£ P�rkin� S�talls 240 car �arkinc� �ramp 240 car p$rking ramp 330 car paxking ramp 600 �ar parkingt r�.m� 720 car parking ram�a • Planning Offic� e Hours, April 16, 1986 • Page 5 In addition, there would be fifty stalls below eac three larger structures h of the visitor parking stalls at� �3' 4' and 5) plus one hundred are 2,380. The total building�areahist5851000rking stalls The first two structures are on � Square feet. immediately easterly and contiguous toe Hoffmanntial lots All the parking proposed is in ram s Electric. not be realistic. Almost half thep ' which we suggest may drawing appears somewhat symbolic property is u�used. The and from the parking level have insufficient spacesto�ps �o the necesaary grades. The drawing was done witho handle 9paphic inf�rmation, and thus cannot b� ut topo- evaluat�d. realistically The three larger stru�tures, on the east �n residen�ial lots and in�Iuding the Hart d o� the cluster�d around a reflectin property, er� corner of th� $it�, 9 pond near the nort�westerly clos� to the offi�e w8t�houaelto �h0 �hem being �xtremely prOp@r�Y, which is prabably the leaststdesirable H�rt coneiguaus to the sit�. a�ea pf buildin�s should b� near�rg�hgt�ou�heae�his cluste�i�q site, providin� gr�ater visibility from 35w andr�a °f the This would 818� $llow Fo� a straiqhteninq o� t�ighway 36. com�nq south�as�erly from Ch� int@r9ection o� Lo�he roadway and County Road B-2 (a� ��c�Qnded)� 9 Lake Road should recon��d�r s�m� o� th� e1Qn�Qnts�ga��et �hat they warking wik�h th� to�agraph1c maps whi�h �are esse �esiqn, e�aluae� o�timum stt� c4neii�fons. ntigl t� ThQy prop�� to build building� gi�st. �r, �+a8 iz�taras�ed in th� Th� qood n4w� is �ha�t invQ��nt ,�g �groater �� r�tu�n �or staft t�1an� end c�at�. th� �'�our story and �he� ninQ story waldran poir�tQd out th�t th� Cauncil major structuz� being built firs�. th� tata�. dev@lopment than oriqinally antici�at�di�l an�l consulta�ion wi�h r�vised d�linea� 10. G�'BYd�n. 484-2��6 �u�nita �ra�dQn w$s in with h�r t�usbend �a r d��►ision af thc�ir si�gl,� famil �vi�w th� cornQr o� Cgpi�,�l Viow arad w��t�rngrY �t the north�a�t divi�ibla inte� t}��c �� n� �# Which�will �r�p�rCY g� �xis�in� home� Th� accu�Y the addi�ion�l �en �oe� oterimh�BrY p1�t proposes to dedicate an �h� total r�c�ht-Q�--�,.�Y �i�� `way Eor Capi��l �iew w�dth that h�� b�en �chiev�dYoVert$ This is the dedication of the Capital Vi�w alignment (althoughinot�a�,ljme for most Dav� Janisch revi,ewec� the options for provid servicQ to th� propt�.rtY, �u ing sewage s�rvica tro� the main line northiof the� an easement iss�readr�p��ate. It a property wo�ld tor Y o� submissionars this prelimin�r�• plat propa�al Commis�ion and Counc�,l. • and r�vi�W by th� planning Planning Offic'� Hours A ril 16 1986 � � p ► Page 6 li. Kaotoski, 483-9767 � Richard Kaotoski is a realtor, proposing to sell Mr. and Mrs. Jim Casey's land northeasterly of the intersection of Victoria and Roselawn. This total land area consists of about three and one-half acres, with a single family home and a garage (stable) with an apartment on the second floor. Mr. Casey has noted that this apartment has been rented for over thirty years. Mr. Kaotoski inquired as to whether or not the existing sewer system serving the rental unit could continue, even though the public sewer has now been extended to serve the two living units on t.he site. He was informed that both the single family home and the rental unit must be connected to the sewer within two years, in accordance with normal City policy. We discussed various ways in which the property could be further developed. Mr. Kaotoski indicated that the Casey's are considering selling the entire site, without dividing or developing the land themselves. 12. Johnson Richard Gray and Jim Johnson, from Toltz, King, Duvall, Anderson and Associates, Inc., were in to discuss proposed changes to the Northwestern College Planned Unit Development proposal. The changes include moving the proposed new dormitory structure northwesterly, so as to be 150 feet from • the rear of the single family lots to the east side of the College property. The previous setback was 110 feet. The tennis courts were progosed to be 270 feet back, whereas they were 70 feet pr�viously. We suggested that the 270 foot setback is excessiv�, and will result in wasted land beteween the courts and the east property line. We suggested the courts might be relocated so as to be setback approximately 100 to 150 feet, and moving the pathway to the west of that, so the pathway would not provide a potential distrubance to the neighbors to the east. They agreed with these proposals, and will revise their plans accordingly. They also changed the entrance at the west end of the site so as to avoid the existing single family homes to the south of Lydia Avenue. We also suggested that there be a detailed lar�er scale landscaping plan prepared for the east end of the Campus where the property is contiguous to the single family homes. This is where the major areas of concern exist, and where specific details should be worked out to mitigate the impact on the single f amily homes. We alsa suggested that they meet with the single family homeowners to review these plans prior the next Public Hearing. It appears that the impact of oak, oak wilt disease, and cutting done by NSP under the power lines has reduced the � foliage signifcantly in this area. Plannin Offi• Hours A ril 16 1986 • g ► P . Page 7 t They also revised the parkinq between the old and new dormi- tories so as to double load this corridor, rather than single load, as previously proposed. This increases the car capacity for the residents to about an additional fifty spaces. We also suggested that these car parks and additional roadways be more carefully delineated, indicating exactly where new curbs are to be built and where the existing roadway will remain. 13. Banet, 871-5615 Reed Banet and Steve Erickson (architect with office) were in to discuss adjustments to the as relates to their proposed new shopping center side of Lexington, and the revisions to arrangements on the east side of Lexington. Paul Pink's right-of-way on the west the parking We reviewed the right-of-way dedication requirements as relates to the County's system plan, noting that sixteen and one-half feet will be required on the west side of Lexington. We suggested that this right-of-way be dedicated, and that a variance then be issued to provide parking up to this new right-of-way. This would allow for the development of the property in a reasonable fashion, similar to the preliminary plans proposed. On the east side of Lexington, Mr. Honchell suggested that a � dedication of at least an additional seven feet would be appropriate, and a variance up to that line. This will provide some space for planting, which does not now exist. The revised parking arrangement will provide approximately twenty-five additional cars over what is in the current layout. Mr. Honchell suggested that a dedication of sixteen and one-half feet would be devastating to the center, and result in substantial parking loss that would create a very serious problem. The sixteen and one-half foot dedication and variance to that line is the same solution that was arrived at with respect to the Texaco site at the northwest corner of Lexington and Larpenteur. Mr. 3anet noted that First Minnesota Federal c3r�es not have a contract to park on the parking area now located northerly of their structure on the west side of Lexington. Mr. Banet is going to review the dedication proposal with the owners of the property and get back to the City regarding application for the appropriate variances for the development of the new center, and the redeveloped parking lot to the east. 7t was noted that the right-of-way for Ione Street has previously been vacated. 14. Linder, 489-7965 Henry Linder lives at 691 West Larpenteur, on property owned � by his father. The property has a set of greenhouses and a two car garage, which Henry Linder has been using as a cabinet shop. • • Planning Of f ic•e Hours • , April 16, 1986 Page 8 Henry indicated his strong desire to want to expand his cabinet shop at this location. We noted that the land is zoned single family, and that the cabinet shop in the garage is not a permitted home occupation. We strongly advised against any attempt to rezone the land for such commercial purposes. We suggested the land could be readily developed with single family lots fronting on St. Albans, an existing north/south street contiguous to the east side of the �ropertyv Mr. Linder noted his disinterest in developing the land, apparently desiring instead to merely live there as is. He noted that his fzcher wishes to sell out and retire. 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Center St. Chandler St. Chats�Jorth Churchill St. � Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Derlwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. �,,,., ._. H:4 Draper Drive 4,1I,13 long1Lake Rd�� A-F7�1� � Sandhurst Dri 'S-7,9-13,ll C-D:13 � � ve — 10-12,14,15,17,19 F,K:13 Dunlap St. E,F,l:I2 Lorera Rd. J:5 ' Sandy Hoak Dr. .:17 E:I6 Eldridge Ave. I:5,7,8,1 -12,16,18 L ve. 6:1 16,18 Sextant Ave. F:9,1�,12,15,16,18 I,K:16 Elmer St. J:19,20 � A,B ,5-14 Shady BeacF� K:20 1=20 Eustis St. E,H:1 A,B,F,H:10 ��,_�.._._� _,.�,� Y� o� R:1 Sharondale Ave. I:5 Evelyn St. A:5 d�a �r A-B 4 Sheldon St. B D F:10 B,E,J:7 Evergreen Ct. J:5 t�9a St. ,L:i7 Sherren St. H�lI-15 K-L:16 Fairview Ave. A-J:5 Manson St. 6:1 Shorewood Cv. & La. A:7 A-C,F,J:9 Fairways Lane I:2 Maple Lane 8:1,7,8,20 Shryer Ave. J:5-7,1d-14,16,17 B=6 Farrington Ave. I:19 Maple lane Ct. 6:15 Simpsons St. A,B:9-10;F,J:9 A:6 Farrington CT. A:19 hiarion Rd. H:3 Skiilman Ave. J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A,6,J:9 Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 Marion St. B-I,L:20 Snelling Ave. A-J:9 G:19 Farrington Circle F:19 Matilda Circle F:1Q Sne7ling Curve E-F•9 K:12 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 t�fatilda St. B-O,F,G:19 A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. C-E,H:11 McCar B _20 Sneliing Serv.Dr. �J B-D:8 Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 J:18 Fisk St. E• McGa M� L. 8-20 Southhill Or. G:18 E,F,J-� Fry St. E:�� V�tCa • �•'1 S.T.N. 35W A-B:4; 6-H:1-4 B�l� Fulham St. G Midland Grove Rd. • S.T.H. 36 G-H:1-20 I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle F:20 �lidland Nills Rd. J:3 g S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 G:19 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 M1 pthian Rd. N-I:$ S.T.H. 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 H:18 Gar�en Ave. K:11,12 Mid Oa1l�s a r�. J;8 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. I-J:19 � A,�;6 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 A=2 Glenhill Road A:10 e.� 6:7-8 10 13-15 A:1 Glemvood Ave. K:17,18 a—�-p#�'�g g:��19 ' St. Cro�ix G,H:2 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Gluek Lane H:6 Miltn� St. St. Stephens St. H:2 Stanbridge Fivs. B:7-8 F:19 Gluek Lane N& S H:6 "i�►��sota �•re. 0 Sianbridge St. A:1 F��8 Grandview Ave. G:13-16,18-20 �bundsview Ave. . State Farm Road H:9 19�2a Griggs St. C,D:i2 Mc�unt Rid�e Rd. R-D:5 Stuber Road K:16 � H��20 Grotto St. E-H:15 Nancy Place G,H:14 .Sumn SL. K•12 H• Haddington Road H:8 Northview St. B . Tal' C�rve D:10 ~ Hamline Ave. A-L:10 Oakcrest Ave. E• � � atum ♦ J:6 C:7,t ,10,18 Hand Ave. G I:l Oakcrest Lane E:,�Q.,��,,,,,,.,,,a„� Termina K:20� _ 1lC�ae'°�'1 F:l-3 Heinel Dr. : Old Highway 8 A-B:1-2 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 K:1� Heinel Circle - � Orchard Lane C:14 A,B ,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. ,N: (Mrasso Blvd. S A-C:16-�0 Tophi7l Circle G:18 A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. J:7 asso Blvd. W A-B:Z5-16 �ransit Ave. F:9-14,16-ZO D:12 Troseth Rd. 8:1-2 Highcrest Road A,B,G,H:I ord St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Victoria St. A-L:14 Hilltop Ave. K-17 arker Ave. I:13-15 Virginia Ave. C-D•19 4 � Holton St. F:10 Par Rci. 6:3-4 � Huron Ave. K:11 P a S A-F,H-J:10 Virginia �ircle F:19 E-G:18 ;` Huron St. C-D:1�`.:�"� t n ��A-8:1 �1ag�ener Place k;20 G•10 Hythe St. J-4 ��,._. '°�� .t. lC-16 �da ner St. K:17-19 H:9,10 � Iona C�rcle � C•18 ri Curve D:10 6lalnut St. E-H:1 G:15,16 �"' ' West Perimeter Dr. G:6 I e � C:S,C,D:15-20 Prior Rve. B-G,I-J:5 Western Ave. B-K:18 H:1-20 ne�S . �_..� L:I1 Pri�r Circle A:5 F:5-20 en � cle C:18 Rambler CQurt D:18 �lestwood Circle J:4 D:l-2U � Wewers Road E:20 °"""""�""""'! I rt F:1 Rambler Rd. D:10 Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,I9,20 Irene St. E,F ii,I:18 Ra,yrnond Rve. A-6:4 Wheeler Rve. E,F:7 A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. 8• 1,12 Rice St. A-L:20 I:18 Jud�th Ave. . 0-13,18 Rid e�ood La. N 8 S �:8 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 E:11 9 Wilder St. A,I:S Karyl �� I• Ridgewaod Rd. A:9 Wi7liam St. I,J:19 K:1�� Kent �l�� i, ,J,L.:I7 Roma Ave. L:11-13,15,14 � C-L- �: �--_lake St. Rose P7ace �:l 2,7-Y2,15,16,18 ��llow Circle E:11 � - � Willow Lane E:il ��I r'�� Lakeview Ave. .►� C,p:13 Rose Vista Gt. L:11 Woodbridge Circle G:2Q E-H:I1 Larpenteur Ave. 1-11-20 Rosedale Or. J:3 -4d � Woodbrid4 Court L:20 L:19 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. J:2-14,11 t.��I: L:12,13 Lexington Ave. A-L�12 Rosewood La. N� S J:3-4 ve Lindy Ave. L,L:12 32uggles St. K:II-23 ��i„j �. kussell Ct. 6:8 .�• 6loodruff Ave��`_ i�� ,,, 1i � t'�°I� ;...s..�... INI�U VATIVE . . p. = � Q'� MICROGR.�PHICS - 4D. � . ��E �� N�O�� r�� i�� u � �� v� �� r �r. � � j � � ♦ �r �w :� /► .,, <;. .. � . � April 14, 1986 .! • TO: FROM: SUBJECT: LJ � Jim Andre � �J Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 9► 1986 1, Gre uitter 488-2525 'tter and his wife propose totb�hednortheast corner Greg Qul vacant lot a family home on a currently This is a tro os�dd�a of Nancy P1ace and Sherren Street. and Greg P P shaped lot, with a shallow depth, to the required thirty foot rear yard setback to variance la� that he showed us. The houappeared accommodate a house P With the help of a friend, ested a which tY�ey had done , � 7, complicated and expensive i ced1on�the sitegwithout a fair y Which could be P a simplified plan, �ariance. Greg proposed proceed without to review the need of this with his wife, a uariar�ce. and perhaps 2, Andrew Skowronek 636-4496 �ingle familY residence at the Andrew Skowronek has � This heast corner of County Road D anri Prior Circle• sout �raqe with a drivew�y extending north to home has a Dinq1The garage, near the nor�hwest corne�� osesQ Count3� Roaei feet from both streets. He P P a site, is set back thiacty arage in the future, ta add to thnt the ga�age tohPriox Circle, distance of ten feet, and orie Road �3• We t� avoid the heavy txaff ic on County so as he would need a ten endor�ed this idea. To accomplish this, foot variance. ime he proposes to build a°ahe°canabuildS the In th� meant , of the garage, to serve until such t�.me �s still oriented to The ca�'port, The apprapriate two c�r garage• will be twelve �eet wide. f�� the north (temPorarilood one` and will retain tW��tY overall solution is a g ark t�i��m� ��anaara of degth contiguous to Prior Circle to p o�rn proP�rtY� i� accordance with our normal, policY• 3' pa== r Reed Banet, and Steve Erickson (Paul Pink Ed Paster, recise plans of their Architects) �ere in to discuss ��r�anstructed �resterly o� p�aposed shoppin5 center to �e Lexingta� Avenue, and narth of the First� 3innandtgcurrent�Y and Loan of f ice . This land i.s zone ► accommodat es a fift� ca�: parking lot buil f Lexing on�Avenuen9 to serve the O1' Mexico Restaurant e��t o � � � � � of fice Hours April 9, 1986 2 � A ril 14 1986 P . In addition to building the new center on the west side of Lexington, they propose to redo the parking areas for both centers on the east side of Lexington (divided by Dionne Street). These revisions will include a complete asphalt and new curb and qutter installation, conforming to City policy. Revisions to the narking areas on the east side will result in approximately fif ty additional spaces. The new parking arrangement on the west side (for the new center) will provide the required five spaces per thousand, plus twenty- five additional spaces to augment use by the O1' Mexico restaurant. Thus, there will be a net increase of twenty- five spaces on this site. Action by the Planning Commission and Council will be required for the new center inasmuch as a portion of the o1d platted Dionne Street will need to be vacated. The remainder of the center conforms to all development standards. They noted that the parking need �or O1' Mexico has reduced somewhat from the initial years, inasmuch as the El Tarito Restaur�nt on West Perimeter Drive is very successful competition, anci their new O1' Mexico Restua�rant in Woodbury is doing v�ry well, and apparently drawing some of the trad�: off the Roseville location, They noted that the O1' Mexicer Restaurant initially established in City Center in downtown Minneapolis was an cconomic disaster, and was clased quickly. Th�y intend to apply �o the City for a street improvement for a n�w curb and gutter or� Lexington, far which they ac�ept �ull a�sessment. We did disc�ss, with Charlie Honchell and Dave Janisch, the best method for handling of the boulevard and parkingr setback area contiguous to Lexington Avenue on the �ast side, Ner�, they propose a variance providinq for up to seven feet of setback� whereas curren�ly there is none. The additional parking capaci�y comes f rom charaging the layout from diagonal to perpendiculax, and the marking for some of the spa�c�s fs�r comp�ct cars. Mr. H4nch�:11 is to l�t th�m know regarding the best solution for th� east side boulevard sp�ce, and whether or nvt a side� walk will be required. Other than that detail, it appears that the overall development will car�stitu.te �i cansider$lale improvennent . A. Target, G31-03�0 Forr�st Russ�ll, � landscap� �rchitec� with the T�rget staff, and Dennis Anderson, Architect, were in to discuss their prflposed expans3.on �nd remodeling of the �arc�et store in Ros�ville. / � �� Of f ice � Hours Apri1 9, 1986 3 � A ril 14 1986 P . In general, they propose to abandon the outside garden center space and the TBA. They propose to expand the building in these areas to gain more retail space in the interior. This store is the first Target store, and was so because they occupied an existing structure built to accommodate the "Jubilee" Discount Store. That store never occupied the building, but was leased to the Target people by Douglas Rees, the original developer of "The Hub" Sh4pping Center, the forerunner to Har Mar Mall. The current Target stor� has 97,550 square feet, with an additional 25,225 square feet devoted to the Knowlar� Supermarket. This produces a total of 122,775 square fe�t. The Knowlan Supermarket people have a five year opt�.on, with a five year renewal, and propose to stay on the site. A to�al of 18p800 square feet is proposed to be added to the store. The parking iot nnw accommodates 71� cars, which is a rmtia of 6.9 spaces per thousand. Tt�ey propos�: a to��l af 73� spaces, or six spaces per thou�and. The ��dinanc�e .r�quir�es fiv� spa�es per thousa�d. Many o� the Tar�get stores in Minnesota are don� at a ratio of 5.5 spa�es pe� ��ousan�?. They infarmed us tha�t aut state, they are currently doirrg some Target store� as low as 4. 5 p�:r tha�sand � Th€�y n�ote, however, that business in �linneso�a is f�r i��t�� than o�her Parts c�f �he country. Targ�t dominates �he discount m�rkc�� in the mark�t areas �rhere D�yton's vric�inakadi. we also r+�v.��wed the impact of th� ra�w �rranc�Qmen� with tha �rospee�ivE ch�ng�� in alignment af the sorvice road in the nartheast qua�drank of SR�lling and County Rot�d �, '�eir r�vised layou� incorparates the conc�pt as pr�vi4usly pravid�d tc� t�� Targ�t p�opl+e by thc� Engin�erinq staff. w� sug�estee� a sZight modification at the �ntra�c� tm 1�he parking ar�a of f th� n��r s�rvic� road align�mec�t �ast of the c�r w�sh �a a� �o simplify that corner. T'ite� will prepar� r�vised pxeliminary pian� as a b�sis Ear fuxthsr �c�nsultat,ion with �h� City staff. S. eurc��r Kinr�, 933-7773 �aine Randolph is the R�gioragl Site En�gin��r Eor th� Mir�r��apoli.� area for Hurqer King. w� di�cussed his pr�limina�ry prapos�l to ads� a gr�enhraus� type dining addition on th� nor<h side of th� structur�. Th� not i.n�x@ase in se�ts wo�l� be twe�ty-ei.ght. we dis�uss�cl this imp�ct on seating capacity. More impartant, Charlie Honchell and Dav� Janisch review�d the status of n�gotia�ions wi�h �he vnd�rlying fe� own�r tDi�k Knutson), wh� is agp��t��ly ��ki�c� an uncoQperativ� attitucTe toward the City's a�tempt to n�gotiate an east/west reslignmee�t of the service ro�d in this southwest quadrant of County Ftoad B and �ne].ling. : � � � Office Hours April 9, 1986 � April 14, 1986 We suggested that until this design, and method for aaquiring the right-of-way are d�termined, it would be ir�appropriate to put any additions on the structure which might make the total solution more difficult. Mr. Randolph expressed his displeasure at this status of events, but we noted that the impass is created by the landowner, over which neither one of has ariy �ontrol. It was notecl th�at tl�e Engineering st��f wauld continue to affect an acceptable solution ancl, ir� the meant�.rn�, no expansion should b� �ontemplated. 6. Rosewood, 636-�050 Fred Katter, of Rose�oocl, was in wit� Bob �ohnson 1b33-4Q48), an Accountant ancl Advisor to G�orq� Hart, with w�om Roae�raod no�a has a Purcha��: Agreement far Fiart' S prap�:rt�v, to th� north and east of the single �amily rQsid�nces �long l�igh��y 36, for which �to��wood Corporation �lread� has Pu�chas� As�r��m�nts. As yet, tha�r do no� ha�v� an agx0�ment arith G�aciex� Park tAurlir�g�an Northasn Railro�dt, notin� th$� �heir �skinr� pric� is "v�ry �ig�". �1� �d,iscusss�d pracQdura� �nc� inga�c�tli�nt$ �or th� contampla�c�c� appll�c�tion for rievc�lapmant $pp�ovals �or �h€� pro�c�c� �raa. Mr. Hon�hel.l not�c3 th�t th� �rid�� ,is SchQrluled �er co�npl�- ti�an by I.�bar Ds� of 19�"i, m�y� ae �t�at �timA, �x sligh�l� �he�cta�t�r. �� rli�ceass�d the ing�Qc��c�nt� o� +��cs e�c�y�lo�tn�r�t a�plica�ion, whic�a wi11 includg a� i�vc��op�man� A��e�c��n�nt, pxelirnin�xy pla�, and � P��nna� Ua�it ��elo�ar��. �s� note�d our cancern �or a s�c�c3t�ic in ��'a�� bc�il�inq ��al�, s�uali,ty, m�t�r,�al$, and ph�sinqy �r� �g�e�Qd rhe p�cincipa� hiqh risa �truc��r� w�,l� � �ir��, ar�� +�h�r �c�m��atci�rr �� fall�ow. A� this timc�, �hey dce no+� heve rQv��cd p�eli�inar� dr��ain�s, which will b�t di�c�s��e�i a� �u��$uant �e��i��s. Tn �Q��on�e to C�ai�g �al�a��n9.� �u�st�on, �hoy �a�ted th�� thc��r �in�racing p�rtr�c�� +�ould Qit��r 1� a�.arq�e ��ving� �r�� %e�anr a life cc�m�an�, or � pr�n��on �und. �► l�mit�ad partnagship �yneli�ste �� ulcre3 out. �'he ar�chitact �n �hQ �e� is �o be W�,�sh-�f.shc��a, �ri�h �nn� W�lsh ir� Ch�J�CJ6t� �hc� ��can��y did Ryat�' � In�s�rnat�onal ��tfl� on 9th S��ec�et in Minn�apolis� Pxc j�ct ec��in�ars hava nnt 1�oQn sQl�cteci, a�lthou4h Minnasot� ua11�y C�or�ly Chri�ta��on) wi31 �i� tY�� suzveyors a wu rowiawed p�o�c�duras for ultirro�tca disposition o� thQ ��cis�ing service x�oarl, wtaich Mr. Honc�aeli point�d tha �t��a progoses to t�ransfer ta th� City. wE r��ffirmed our position gn f�vor of the ��io�8t�a s�rv3c� roed, p�nding $n appro� priate v�h3.cular cireulation plan. � Of f ice Hour s � Apri1 9, 1986 5 April 14, 1986 • We stressed the importance of carefully prepared plans, with a level of commitment to scale and quality, all of which will be committed to a Development Agreement prior to approval of the preliminary plats and/or pmUlicationsnotTheyhwillmproceed of the hot�l study, and its i� with preliminary plans for subsequent staff review. 7. Geor9e Reilingr 483-1941 G�eorg� Reilinc� w�s in to note that he proposes to develop tk�e southeast�:rly quadrant of County �taad C and Dale Strc�et �o� multi-familY housing, gs indicated in our Comprehensivo Plan• W� discussed tho intont for �rie iaW��andalakerare�lti8fld the th� land �r�r p�rk use tbasically v�rio�s prc�c�d�tres �a�d raquir�mon�s. WQ sugg�stc�el i�Q hirQ a competen�x�a�hat�t9r= �RQil�ng��is�inow sup�rt to pcocQad. It sP� contsmpl�tin� thQ advan�tag�s of dc�v�.lopman� veacsus ��nd s��s, �rhich ha or�inar�ly did in thQ past. �'c� cliscu�sed +th� prin�c�pl@ o� applicat�o� of tha dc�nsity ta all th� p�op�r+�y�� inc��ding ths+t which mi�h� �c dQciic�a�ted �o thc� �'i��P. crxpl�a,�ned �h� e�o��it�r c�itc�ri�, �u�gQs�i�� tha� his d�siq�ners ��y r�i�h �n v,�s�t a►��h thQ �iey �a� an Qarly �t�go, �hen ce�ntc�mp�a��r�q de�v��o�an� pl�n�. � $. Ji� wi��.i �e��o �i' m �11 qa�Qt�c� �nd hi� ��Q�, ,7ohr� �Qsaa�en, �corcr in �ith G�o�Qc� Rc�i��a�q ta di�au�� hc�� p�opa��►Ra�iinqv$lo��op�t�+�� Co�t�o ��s3hi�1�D��.vsu�r�n��thc� ��v,�c�Cc��te�e a►cros� wa �u��Q��Qa +tna�t i�c4ci�q� e�� e��ene c��►s�r��t acca��, ch�� h�s wa�ld� no+� bt� an ag�#arop��Q �i�c �o� �uch ��r�withC+641 r�tail ou��c�t, �►IPF��'o�im��in�t 10�,Qq�D �q��►rQ ��tj parkir�� al��. �ro e��mi�r�c� �hair �pr�limina�� it� plan, and found th�t thc�y h�d a��um$d thc� pro��+�� v�� h�nd��d �Qe� deep�+r Cca��l�e�� ha� Ghe ��o�+��c�Y Q��1�dQv�tla�ma +��wi�lQnot��i� ou� �uq��.on--�h�� a�e �� w�ll on tha �ite, ��d �h�� thQr u�os �ha�l,d t�a �onte�nap��ted. �1�. Re�il�� pra�er+�y, b�tw�e�n olt� anci new �il�h�r�y� 8, south o� Count� R�ad D, w��l$ ��' �'po�hAari�wholc�alo di��un� �o�Q,� �-3. As �s �h� cas� with s�o�c�� 1��l��.� � � s`� th�^ �o��vis�� a�Q�, �hoy pit3�ts� Co �t3 iao�a�oan �5w �n� ��alli�� AvQnuQ, 3n ��os€�r p�rox�m�.ty �� tosoda le � � Of f ice Hours April 9, 1y86 � April 14, 1986 � From our conversations with men in the ind��zstry, it appears there are four wholesale discount clubs looking around the Twin Cities. The first is "Sam's Wholesale Club", owned by the Wal-Mart Stores, the owner of which is reported to be the richest man in America. Some dealers feel tha� Wal-Mar�s have now abandoned the Twin City area, and are looking elsewhere. The second one is "Price Savers", awned by Pay and Save Corporatior�, purchased by Kroger. The third one is "Pace", which is similar to Price Savers, inasmuch as they emphasize more retail sales through group membership. "Cost- co"' is 3 publicly h�lci corporation out of Sea�tle. This club, we are infQrmed, functions more like a wholesale house a�herein c�tn�r busine�vidualrsale� to organizationalCtm�mberh le�s emphas,is on ind ships. � � It appears that various whole�ale club operators are looking in th� RosQvill� area. Th�y have consis�ently express�r� concarn �bout any locations in tha tax incr�m�nt �reas� w3.th �he �c�sult that rQlocation in th� existing indu�tri�1 �reas nor�h of C, botwe�n Snel�ing and 35�, may be th� subj�ct of futur� propo�als. 9. Ma�k t��tthea�s. 483-89X7 ��a�� ethews, t�fan�qcr o€ Group � C�blo '�V, w,as i� �� liscuss thQ pass�b�.,lity of � post offic� bEing loc�t�d or� th�t propQr��t car«iquQus to �hQir office� on the Owas�c� �cho�l s, �o. �e� 1��aunQ �warc� of the post �f f ica i�tc�nti to cor��truct approx��na+�e��y � �omewha��u�in�th�Qcentra�lia�re�� o� eRosevill�� 2, � ac�e �i�ta � YflU �ri�l reca�l �rovious ctiscussions w��h r�p�es�ntat�.u�s of +�i�� G�n��l SQ�v.�co� Depa�+�mc�nt of thQ F�deral �overnm�nt ��c�artling a p�co�osal to build a nQw post of�ica Ca rc�gl�ce �ha e�xs�tinc� ina�d�qu$�Q ��cilitias in R+�s�vi�le. "i�e p�� of f�c�: m�Y v4hicl�stovar�nightv�n w�p5uggostc�d��that nec� tQ pa�� or�� ho Ow�sso Scho�l �i+tc� would no� b� ar� apprapr3.��a� po�� c�� f ice si�c�, du� �o �h� oxist�ng ].�nd us€�s in con�iguous �,r��, ,�nd thc� l�ck o� dix�ct access c�ff Vic�o�i� ta High��y ,�fi. C�r. ��tthaw� rQadlly accaptnd this advicm, noting th�� i�p�,y want€�cl �n an�«�r b�fo�e proce�ding �rith any ��orts. �Q ne�Qd tt�8� �ho�r ar� in�ormod that th� School eo��d w�sh�s to ci,�s�ase of �h� pro�erty, �a� whi�h G�ou�a W 1�s �ou know) has � 1Qn�-��zm le��. �a. G�e�Q� �-�� Gr�e� Sou].o i� an attorn�y for "C�rQ Cak�s", �n orgsniz$This th�t o�EicQs s� 174G TerracQ Drive in Rasevill�. orc��nix8�ion has �,000 square f�ot a� th� sauth �nd o:E o�� o� �h,� �g�i�� w�rohous� bulldings on T�rrac� Drive, and �hey Mava thirty-thrQ� Dodg� vans which t��y u5e far ta��sgortir�g hane3icappoa p�rsons. �h�y also hav� on� full siz� bus and a mini-bus. � � � Office Hours April 9, 1986 11. 12. 7 April 14, 1986 They now store these vehicles in a fenced area o side of the structure contiguous to their o n the soutP� industrial zoning district requires a Special U ffices. The "Storage and Maintenance of School and Charter Se Permit for therefore, propose to apply for this Special Useuses". They, Gretchen Ternes 633-2834 Permit. Gretchen Ternes was in with Dick Johnson (builde Pertinen (architect) to review a slight modificatr�� and Dan site plan for their new lon to their corner of Terminal Road and�Fu1hamSStreetre at the southwest Due to an analysis of soil conditions move their building further to the souththey now forty foot distance from Fulham Street, propose tn , but at the same will have the offices partially overlookin Tthe °rientation parking will be at the i.rnmediate corner and S�tpond. The aPpropriate forty feet from both rights-of-way, back the Previous action from the Planning Commission rezoned the land from single famil �o and Council accordance with the Comprehensive Plan.y industrial, �n change is appropriate, done in accordanceTwith the si�e requirements, all ordinance Harold Sk'elbostad 370-0'7Q0 Harold Skjelbostad is an engin�er with B review the before and after site conditions,forna Was Restaurant, owned b in t° Highway 36 and CountyTRoad1B12us, at the northeast corner�of A portion of the parkzng serving this site wi11 b right-of-way for the realignment of the Hi hwa � taken for Road as it relates to the new g Y�6 Frontage �howed us preliminar b�'idge approaches. Harold conditions that seem topsuns indicata.ng the before and after will work well after addi��onaltrighthof�Wak�is arrangement plan will conform t�o the fifteen f�ot Y taken. The course reduces the number of parking setback, but Qf know the seating capacity ofptheist�ructure� Harold did n�� the building has 10,000 square feet. but noted that the parking ordinance , impact based on the ordinancsuggested that hey calculateyt�� e requ1rements. �� He also inquired about the movement of the si n. previously existing vari�nce as to Q Due to that the sign could be moveri to relatively�th� S a as previausly located. ' We sugge,�ted agreement with the ownerTassto compensa •Was sub eCp�t��oY� '°hardball" a tion rather than aa PProach through condemnation. a cooperative appraach on the W� a11 agreed that the most effective solution. �'art of all concerned would be � Nf 2 gl o� � � � 3 a� � � 5 � 6 . � `� 7 �� $ �i 9 �� 10 � I l �� ' 12 �� a� 14 a I 5 � ! 6 � � � N � I �.� .._._�,/ �— � � � �l`��, % ! � � � � � 7 � I 8 � I g I 20 - m.�� I � 1 TN K �. ca. •o. 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Cha ts�iorth Churchill St. �Civic�Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Gleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Corrrrrerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Deliwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 B:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14D18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,ZQ H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-I :11 E-H:I1 L:19 L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Driv� Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Eimer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairvi2w Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fu7ham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane G1 uek Lane P! e. g 6randview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel CircTe Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �4,2I,13 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,1b,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 a:� J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:�9 B-D,N,L:19 F:I9 I-L:11 �-E,H:lI E:25 E-F,I:8 G-J:� F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,I8 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,N:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,D:16-20 L:I1 C:I8 F:18 E,F,N,I:18 6:11,12 C:10-13,18 F:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:1� 1;I1-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I.,�:I2 Litile �ay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Dr. i4ackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Fiatilda St. McCarron Blvd. N. McCarron 81vd. S. McCarrans St. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Nills Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mi� Oaks iane 8 19ildred Dr. hiillwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. Minresota �ve. t�1oundsview Rve. ��ur�t Ridge Rd. Nancy Place Narthview St. Oak�rest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Nighway 8 Orchard Lane Clwasso Blv�. S Owasso Blvd. W Oxford St. Parker Rve. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond AL��. Rice St. Ri dg�,rood La . N & R9dgesvood Rd. Rmma Ave. Rase R1ace Rose Vista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Roselawn Ave. Rosewnod La. N & � ew �ugg�es St. Russeli Ct. R:17,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-16,I8 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-S:14 C D,J,L:17 8:1 B:i,7,8,20 8:�9 N:3 B-I,L;20 F:19 [3-D,F,G:19 a:is-2o K,L:18-20 B-O,H,K:Il H:4 J:3 H-I:8 Rd. J;8 A,B:6 6:7-8,I0,13-15 B:1,�9 A,H,:14 G:I8-20 J:17 A-0:5 G,H:14 8:20 �:5-8,21,12,15,18 E:19 A-B:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-6:15-16 A,C-F,N,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 �-B:1 K:15 D:10 6-G,I-J:5 A:5 Q:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:20 S J:8 A:9 L:12-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-IZ,I5,16,18 L:11 J:3 a�.2-1�'1% J:3-4 K_II-13 6:8 � Kyan Ave. Sandhurst �-� �� Sandy Hook Or. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondaie Ave. Sheldon St. Sinerren St. Shorewood Cv. & Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman qve. Snelling Ave. Sneiling Curve Snelling Serv,Dr, Snelling Serv.Dr, Southhiil Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 35 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Rlbans Si. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridse Ave. Stanbridse St. State Farm Read Stuber Road .Surtmer St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. TophiTi CircTe Transit Five. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Yirginza Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perim2ter Dr_ Western Ave. l�estwood Circle 4lewers Road lJheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. dlheeler St. Wilder St. William St. {�illow Circle Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Waodbridge Court Woodbridge St. Woodhill Drive wood7ynn Drive Woodruff Ave. La. w E 's"9-13,17 . .�.�12,14,15,17,14 A:17 F:9,I0,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 3,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,I0-14,I6,17 A,B:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-N:1-4 G-H:1-2� G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,1?,18;C-D:15-16 6:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-I9 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,3:19 E:11 ' E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:21-14,17-18 A:a1-20,13,14,19,20 K:1$ � � � � April 7, 1986 T0: E�t��7�A �U�JECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 2, 1986 1. Steve Zeece Sr., 488-2571 Steve Zeece, Sr. w�.s in to discuss the possible movement of his operations on Rice 5treet to a location in Energy Park where they now operate a trash recy�ling center. He indi-- cat�s the St. Paul Port Authority would lik� to move that operation and �hat a developer, Art Bauermeister, was in�erested in warking an arrangement whereby Steve would take over the b�uildings in that p�.ant, and there would �e a possible �xchange o� land (or some other ar�angem�nt) to move that plant to S��ve's site on Rice Street. As yau know, Steve's location is immediately north of Ram��y Count�'s La�ee McCarron's Park and beachr and immediately b�hind recently appxoved new housinq (Hackworthy) fror��ing an� Wagner Place. We told Mr. Zeec� that his �.an� is too valuabl� far such use, and that any solid wa�te collection facility would �ae totally i�appropriate for tha� location. We revi�wed c�ur old suggestions with Mr. Zeece, over the �ast twenty y�axs, to move his op�ration further out sa as to gai.n more space, a more e�fici�nt layout, arnd release this excellent location on Rice Street to a higher us�. We sugg�sted this is still th� most apprapriate solution, and tha+t he may consid�r utilizing the service� c. a good realtar to af�ect tk�at chang�. Steve noted that he ha�l the pica�erty appraised in 1979 at �250,000, which comes out to abo�t $4.24 per square foot. We noted that those values may be higher today, and that the valu� will be in the land and location �or a r�ew use. 2. John Barrett, 929-1650 J�hn Barrett i.s a Regional �lan�ger for Aavanni's one af which is located on West Perimeter Drive He came in to express concern about �he traffic the intersec�ion of West Perimeter Drive and t�e way 36 Service Road. Pizza Plac�, (north sidei. conditions a� Trunk High- • � � Office Hours � April 2, 1986 2 � April 7, 1986 Charlie Honchell showed Mr. Barrett the City's proposal to widen that portion of Trunk Highway 36 Service Road from that intersection easterly to Fairview. Charles noted that this included adding an additional lane on the north side, producing a free turn movement for access west bound, northerly to Perimeter Drive from Fairview Avenue. Mr. Hon- chell noted that the City was attempting to get this con- struction going this year, but that timing depended upon cooperation from the contiguous landowners to the north (Fairdale Shopping Center), relating to costs of right-of-way acquisition in conjunction with appropriate assessments to the land. Mr. Barrett was pleased at these prospects, but also ��xpressed concern about the need for a signal at the inter- section so as to provide more adequate egress for east bound traffic heading towards Fairview f rom this intersection. Mr. Honchell noted that Mr. Barrett could express his con- cerns for the immediate traffic condition by writing a letter requesting a review of current and future disposition. 3. Kraus-Anderson, 332-1241 eill Harris, of Kraus-Anderson Realty, was in to discuss possible de�elopment opportunities in Roseville. Kraus- Anderson has two principal companies: Kraus-Anderson Can- struction and Kraus-Anderson R�alty. Recently, the latter has been principally occupi�d with the development of the International Cent�r in downtown Minneapolis, which is in the s�cond successful phase. They are, therefore, lookinq far new devel4pment opportunities, and are much int�rested in Ros�ville. W� reviewed various locations in Rosev�lle, emphasizing the tax incr�ment parcels� including those being put together by Rosewood Corporation (noting their progress and intent, as recently v�rified with the City Council). Mr. Harris also expressed int�rest in multi-family residen- tial properties, which we reviewed with him in terms of �otent�al s�tes in Roseville. He agreed that he would keep in �ouch with the staff, and �hat he would check into the va�iou� aptions we rad discussed. 4. Duane Albrecht, 633-451n Duane Albr�cht has begun, and substantially completed, a 15 ft. hy 40 ft. (600 sq. ft,) second story office addition ta his site south of County Road C, between Snelling and Hamline. He had not appii�d for a build�ng permit for this construction and, there�ore, the �uilding was "Red Tagged". . 4 • � � Office Hours April 2, 1986 � 3 April 7, 1986 Mr. Albrecht was aware of the building permit requirements, but was also aware that he had r�ot fulfilled the conditions attached to his Special Use Permit issued in 1977, at which time the southerly portion of land was also rezoned from R-1 to I-1. The conditions at that time included the development of a 15 ft. landscaped strip on the south and west side of the property (the latter contiguous to a single family home). Another condition was that the approximately south 100 ft. was to be used for the storage of landscape material (now occupied by trucks). He was supposed to post a bond to ensure the development of the landscaping. The bond was apparently never posted. we reminded Mr. Albrecht that wit�out these conditions, the land would likely not have been rezoned, nor the Special Use Permit issued. In this case, this industrial zoning projects southerly into the residential area. We informed Mr. Albrecht that if he conformec� to �he original cor�ditions, the bui�.ding co�xld proceed. The other option is to reapply for a new conditiona�. use permit, under new comdi- tions he might propose. 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Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capito7 Uiew Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats�iorth Churchill St. �Civic Center Dr. larmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Da1e Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 6:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 N:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-L:11 E-H:11 L:19 L:12,13 Or-aper Ave. Draper Ori�e Ounlap St. Eldridge 11ve. Ela�er St. Eustis St. Evelyn St, Evergre�n Ct. Fairvie*r Ave. Fa i nrays Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT, Farrington St. Farrington Circte Fernwood Ave. Ferrnrood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman S�. Glenhili Road Glen�ood Ave. Gluck Lane Gluek Lane tl b S Grandviesr Ave. Griggs St. Grotto 5t. Haddington Road Namline Ave. Hand Av�. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Nerschel Ave. Nerschel St. Highcrest Road Nilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Cirtle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ar�e. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lalcevie�r Ave. Larpenteur� Ave. Laurie Road lexinqton Av�. lindy Ave. �.4.1I.13 rF��i2 r:s,�,s,ia-��,a�,�� J:14,2� E,F#:l A:5 J:5 l#-�J : G I:2 ":19 A:19 9-D,�i,l z I9 F:19 /I�-LC:l�i9 M�G qf➢. 7 � E:15 �-f�i:� G-J:2 f:�0 Q-O,��1:19 k:11,12 I-J:19 A;iO K:17�i8 w�6 G:13-16*I8-?0 C�[1:12 €-N:15 H:8 �1-t :10 G,1:19 ti-0:�5-17 C-16 E.N:7 J:7 A,B,G,H: i K-17 Fe10 K:ll C-Dell J:4 t:18 C:S,C,0:16-i0 L:ll C:18 F:18 E,F.H,I:18 8:11,12 C:1Q-13,�8 I:12 B.D.J,1.:17 J:2 C,0:13 1;11-20 H:3.8,12 A-L:1 I,L:I� Littlt �a�r A�. A�i7�l� � LOtIg i.��ke! li�. ,�=Ft3 Lo� Rd. J:5 �.o�neit I��. G:D��6.�� dt� p�. a,�: � «+�-�� I�yd�a Carr�c ,�. X Lg►dlia� Qr. ,�-�:1� �cMes,6�in 5�. C O,�.l:la IFf�n��n �[. g�:l ��1� L�� :1.7,8*�0 l�i�al� L�tt� Ct. �: H4 �'ario�n R�9. H:� �a�-1c�n S�. �-i,L:20 Pf��i ttlla Cir��1r �: �9 ��#ic�a 5�.. �-f1��,G:i9 �t+CG��rra�+ ��rdl. !�. .): ��-ZO ltr�G.�e-rA� �l�rd. 5. K,l:l�-ZCe �C,teerr��a� St. �t-O,Fi,I�: i 1 11��I�1,�� r'o�i i�c�. f9:Cl �idl��rtctl �� Ds Ra�, ,�:3 �fd1c►th6�,n Rd. N!- H :� �9id �,iks �.�r� d� 6tdl. .8�� i��e°�d �Ir. AF�:� �!i � tw� ��. �: 7-�. t0� 13-15 �ill+�ci 5�. �:�.�9 kfi1��n St. �p,�6�:�� P�i�a�cst�ta �r�. �:4c'�.-20 �ount�5a►i�.ror ��. J: Il �G+ernG IRf� itd. A-Q�:S ��ncy► Rl�c� �.ft:l� �orthvi+e�r St. 6:20 t�il�c�a.►s[ �4m�. E:S��,11.12�15,23 Oa�t�st L�nc �:19 01d! �'�c�� 4-E3:1-2 C�rtih�rd l�r� C:14 O�a�sa �1or�l. S �-G.lE�-2'0 �s�� 1�+�. � R-6�:15-16 �cfo�nd St. A,C-�,H,J.K:i3 ��r%r ,�m�*. t : i3-15 Par�rid�� Ra9. g:3,�; P,�sc�i St. A�F,N=J.10 Peti�n 1Rd. q,_�:l P'in��►ie+a Ci. I�:I6 3►rim�ro�� Gurv� li.IO Prior l��. E-6, �-,J:S f+rSor Ciirtle l�;S �ab1Cr Cotrrt 0:1� �Jb1�r i�d. 0:70 P`-�� Are. �t-�:4 Ricc St. A-�:� Rid�od La. fl b S J:� R��g,�wooe r�d. a:9 it� Av�. L:II�13�1f.19 Ros� Place E;I�2.7-12,1�,16,1� �+ose Mista Ct. L:I1 Etasedl�le Dr. J:3 Ros�1� !#ve. J:2-14,17 Roseao�od► L�. q b S ,?:3-� �111 Cc. B�a]-13 i��an Ave. � S�yt�dhutrst Drive S�ndy Kook Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sh�l�lon St. ��jerren 5�. St:wr,e�+�ai Cv. 8 La. 5h�rgrer Ave. Sia�sons St. Sk:ili�n Awe. Smellinq Ave. 5n�e 11 i nq Curve Snelling Serv.Ur. 6i S�nellinq Serv.Dr. E �OuLht�i�1 Dr. S . i . HI . 357i S.T.N. 36 S.T.�#. 36 Serm. tl 5. T.H. 36 ger-v. 5 �.3.H 2�0 S�. Wlbans St. St� Craix 5C. S�eph�ns Si. St�nbrydge Ave. Stanbrtidg� St. S t.a �e Fa r� Road Stutre�r Road Sa��r St. Ta 1 i saaan Curtre 1fa[u�s St. 7e�ir��1 Road Terra�ce Dr. io�hill Circie Tr��nsi t Rve. 7r�seth Rd. 9l�r.tori� St. Virc�inia Ave. �'irre�inia Circle �a�ener Place blaqner St. bia�nut St. 4��t P�rimeter Dr. 6@e5tern 1�ve. �'e�t�od Circle 4Fe�+er� Reaad Nheaton Ave. b�eler Ave. 1�taeler St. Wflder St. 51i 1 i' iauu St. iNllorw Circle �lillo�► Lane l�oo:dbridge Circle Uoa�dbri dge Cour-� �cra dbri dge St, • IioaQhi 11 Ori ve Waxxlpr�n �rive 1iot�dr^Uff Ave. 7,9-I3,17 -12,14,15,17,19 : i� F:3,Ya,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B4O,�:IO ii:ll-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,�:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-IZ,I6,20;1:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 8-0:8 1l-0:9 G:18 A-g:4; 6-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 N-J: 1 C,�,G,L:16 G,ti:2 H:2 6:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:I2 �:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,l0,1I,18;C-D:15-16 G:1� �:9-14,iF-20 6:1-2 A-l:14 C-0:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 �:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:T9 , E:11 E:21 6:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:12-14,17-18 A:9-�0,13,14,19,20 iC: 28 '` March 2 5 l� 6 � , � • � � TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre John Shardlow OFFICE HOUR�, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 19, 1986 1. Doug Heck, 645-1235 Mr. Heck purchased a lot from Carl and Mary Lou Evers in 1984. The lot split was approved by the Cit� on Octvber 4, 1984. Mr. Heck is interested in builc�ing a house on that lot this April, and given the neces�ary setbacks and a deed restriction which affects the iront y a r d se t bac k, tl�e specific siting of the proposed house will r�:qtatire at least one, and probab�.y two variances. I�r• Heck did not hav� any sort of site plan with hi�n �or th� Offic� I�aur vi�it. We assisted him in g�t�ing some ba�e map infor�n�ti�n, �nd instru�cted }�im as to wh�t ty�pe of info�matian �hould 1�e dr�wn on tha+t plan. W� also ins�ructed him �o �ontaet his adj�c�nt lot owyner�, �nci Ca g�t the.ir si�gnaturQs on a plan to b� brough� back to Doug �tron�. Goug in�orm�ci t�r. Heck �ha� thi� r��uld be a mina� �raari�nce �p,�licatianw a�s�uming tha� his n�i,gh�sors w�r€� in favog of th� pro�pos�tl �rar�.sn+cQ� 2. Rick Thorn� �r�ri E�i�t� O�KeoE�t 227-�7039 ki ck Tt�arn� �n+d M kr� o`�to��e we�c� � r�p��8a�n�ir�� irs� C��axtd Ayaa�uo d.iguors. J�.� �cldi�ior� �� pp�a�r�d �o this uxis�inQ bw�ldie�g at Caunty Fta�d T� anc� OZr� Hig�hw�y 8, wh€�r� ��t,i,dao tapcc� renta,l retgil st�op i� cur�c�ntly �oca�Qd. Th� ��t� apprc�vad th� pr�o�ctce, contlitie�n�d ��ac� �t�f� ��vi�w a�,d spprr��al of a��rio� iauilc�ir�� t��riuls. l�ndscag� p��n�, ,�nd gradin� �nd 8+�oz�m dr��. �� p�,an�. �onQ c�� che�,�s� plan� w�r� evaile:ble for ot�r z�euir�w �$ of �hi� �n�sa�in�. I c�av� �hem �om,e �uqgQ�tiv�� tc��ardin� ,iand�cap�a rn�+��rial� for +�ha ��on�e��, and lns�ruc�tQd th�m �� o k�ow ta q�Qt n�ra ddt�ilc�d �an�d�c�� pl,�n� p��p,��. �►�, ,�lsa axpl��,r��rl t� �h�� wh�e �h+� rtty' � cQrs�arfl� warQ rQga��inq� ex�er�.or ,buildi�� mat�xial�, and �old them �e� s�,rnp��r c��cid� �r�n C�Q �a��r,�a,�� whiGh they �+�r�tQei, �nd to rca�urr� to a�u.bsc�g�Qn� t�E�ic� Hour mac�ting ta p�re�se�nt �he��a m��er�.�3� �or �kaf� �Q�riQw, Pe�rha�s the� mo�t ��gnific�nt i��c� rQl�tQ� �o �hi� propas�d adriition is tt��t a� sto�m d�ainega. Th� Qxis�inq ia� she�� dr�ie�s o�� i�e�, and is nat calloct��d ana conv�yc�d to aray storm sQwe�r. �i�Qr� is � propasQd s�as�e e�raina�ge proj�ct �o bQ constructed in Count�r Roa� D�his stimm�r � �tr� p�r��ided th�m with �om� dr�wirags, �ndicat�n� in gan�ral fa�hion wh�r� that improv�m�nt proj�ct was tca ,ba ca�nstruct�� this �ummc�r, t�� asve t�� Qntact g�r�on at �� am�oy �ounty �ngin��ring D�partm�n�, and in�t�ruct�d th�m ta hirQ a Civil Engi�►�er t� prepa�� a storm drainaga �ira�r�.ng, Th� ob�►iou� conc@rn is tMat th�s� drawings will need to be pr�p$g�c� �,n a tim�ly �a�hion, to all�w th�m rQ coordinat� tha ins�allation o� the�.r imprav�ment wit� th� County's �.m�a�ov�ment project. � Of f ice �iour� March 19, 1986 2 � 3. Jeff Titus, 631-0330 He was apparently interested ia� discussing structure to th� Ros�vflle Target. Mr. Titus for the scheduled Office E3o�r meetir�g. March 25, 1986 a temporary d�d not appear 4. Loren Devine, 636-4390 Loren Aevine, of Construction 74 Inc., is representinq Nlt. Poupsrd of E�en Fr�.irie, who i� the or,�er c�� tih� �rop�rty vn ti�� corn�r of Hamlin� and t�z°p�r�teur. ThQ pra�os�d �ppli- c�tinn is �or g Special Usc Permit, which r�ill r�guir� both a� p�rkinq encl � s,id� yard v�rianc� to $llow �h� con�fi�uctian af a r��w car�rnercial �atab��.shment. The plan� �hi�h w� re�ri��recl i13us�rated a ner� pr�cis�on tun� and tix� pi�r� fa�cilit� �rithin a new stru�tur�, �'h� cocic� z��ires a�ot�l of thixty-�ou� p�rkin� ��c�sp �ou� em�loy�s 8P�'lCi�l�i e and thr�c� �pace�c p�r rc�p�a�ir iaa�. �� p�i�.�� which w�r� pras�c�tcrd #.l�us�Cr��a1 t�r+�n��-ninc� �r�i�� a��e� on ��ie� ��+��, w�i�ch woulel m�d�e �hi� �pgl�ca�ion �i�r� �ark�ng► ��a�� horts �fr. �vis�Q �u�it�t0d capi�s r�� leatt��a f�c�m !'a�h o� +�8�e prop�s�� t��aants�, �nsli�at�ing th�t their ��t��l p8�3�inq na�eig, b�a�as� r�r� ��e�rs��nc�, wc��e� �a�r a� +tot�l a� �i�tc��n parkin� �psce�. � t�@ r�x��ainQd to �3�., D��i�a4 t�a� �ha� G�t�►`� sb�rious ��ne��rr� wa.s w�t�h �hc a�dl��mc.`� af pa��C;�a�q� �n ��►� ��at�.��. t�� c�� th� �tQn�i��. �or �r�� s�C�ipi�� ea accea�at� ��m�c� pa��i�g �p��cc�� n �h� ��u�ur�� c� a�1�� di�au�s�s�d �� op�o�+�a�ni�� a� +�aira�� id��idra8� ��rk�n� on �.h� �c��, in �he c�v�nt th�+� thi� t�u,�ld�ng we�x� �o � c�nvert�adl ta aa��r�� a�Q . �'hs� era�i�a�� c��rc��t �� ar a ��n ��e�+� �ar��ra�c� �r� th� �Qg�i.r�d �wc�r�t� �c�o� rc�sr �ard �atbaek. "�hcara ,�� pr��c��d. t�t� Eoot a�ai��tt3a� �l�t�g ch�r ��at�� yard. The ciz��i�a�Q ��an w�i�h wa� prc��an�ed w�� r4r�� an�ral o �a �x�a�.a,lne�sl tha� th� pl�n�a� �u,�i��.or� �h��ai ir��ude �s tapo�raphicm� �u�vcr�w Qn �h� ��s� �n+d a gz��;£�� p�a� �aith a�.Q�rati�n� on �t, �� eco��n�� ha� an ac�d�t�ona�, c��ch basira laQ �eldad +te� �h� �l�n �� all+�w th� d�sina+�Q on +�h� s��t� tra d�� cor�v��ed t� ��ollectioa� p�in� ��d ��am �h�r� cone�a�cta� �o th� Cit� sy�tam caut or� thQ ��t. �t� ax,�l��nad tha� �ha s�bmis�i�n d��e3�i.t�a i� Apri�. 2, arad Mr. I?�vi�tc� ine3f.��ted ��a� �t wou�.� R�a hi� ar�tan�ior� t� meQt th�� d�acilfna. �his mat��^ �hoe�ld �om� bQior� thQ Planning Co�missi�t� nn R�ari,], 9. � �1 � � � March 27, 1986 �'O: �'ROM : � Jim Andr� John Sha�dlow �J �U�JEC'T: ��'FICE �iOUR�, W�DNESD�Y, N1�4RCH 26, 1986 l. efll God.bout 636-0425 �`h� m�Q� ng �as r0��rdinq a prQp�rty in th� �outhea�� qv�dxant of �nc��ling and Count� Road C-2. Mr. Ga�l.iaaut w�a l�tq�i�ing �.gaoa�t pro�rty wriich a��pgra�n�ly� ha� qan� t�x €or- fQic, ad�acc��t to t�o e�cistinq A11 ��at� insuran�e and I�a� Off�ce Suiiding. �! por+�ion oE th� ],8r�d ac�jac�nt to this tax fot�ai+t g��rc�l �+a� �cQuir�ci �O� �t�a� �linnesota DeRartm�r�t o� ��g��ation �a�c riqh�-of-�ray. l�r. �acl.bout has �ar�tacted �n[�0°T�, �r�� @��s r€�q�€�s��d �h�� they �ilc� th� nac�ssaay► form� r�.��h thQ �c�d�r��i �ov�rrama�at �o ,indic�a+�e thet the i�nc� i$ �u�p�us. M.r. God�out r�as ln�t�t�c��ci �� rite a 1��r� te +�h� �ity �9ana��rr ��r�ue$t�ng tfiat �h� �,i�y a� Rosc�vili� eor�tact R�sa�y �ou.nt� �Q ir�d�ca�c� i�ha� this land �s no� nc��cl�d far �i�� pu��s�� Th� prx�t+��ra wauld �3�Qn k�a �r�r th� land tca bc� �ut r�p La� �id, �iinnQso�,� Dapar+t�no�� a►� '�r�ns�ort�t�an has ina��t�d �Y�s� �h��► wil� undc�rtako th� nc�cc��s�ary p��r wor}� f�ll�i�ng �h�sc� actior�s by t�� City a�na �h@ �aunty. �r, �b�u+� �a�d�ca�� h�t �hcsr€� �+�r� r�� i�€�di�t� p�an� faar etxpa�r�si�an o� ra��e a� this prop�r��, Thay �►+�ro primarily in�e�ce��c� i� ��.nc� able �c ma,�n��n th� p�ra�Ferty� �c�r�v�r, h� did �nclicate ti►at there� �►a� the� pot�n�i�l fo�c gom� �xp��n�ion ai a p�rki�►g �raa in �ht� �urtu��. 2. T'ar�,�tram 6�9-�14i7 R�r. S�rom�w��n t� �i�cu�s a lat :�plit. i�c� is �h� o�ner of a l�t betwaan 5t. Stsvans� �nd St. Cro�x Str�c�t, Ho was in��rested �in ir��rma�ion r�ga�ding th� pr�c�durQ for orocess�.ne� a lo� split �h�rough th� Gi��r. wo discuseed �he r��s�ry� �etb��ks and the praG+edures �or �i�.i�g the applicat�on far the� lot split. t�r. Strom was i.n�ormec� �h�:t k�@ ne�ded to can�act Rams�� County �o c��t �n Ab�tracto�r`� Ce�rti�icate of �ar,ogerties within t1�� 1�gal notice distance. �t is expecteci that hn wil]. b� making appii�ation for this 1at split in th� n��r future. � • Office Hours March 26, 1986 2 • March 27 1986 v 3. Yorkton Ltd., 641-5603 Mr. Jeff Iisakka attended this meeting, representing Yorkton, Ltd. Yorkton had previously prepared a concept Planned Unit Development drawing which proposed a day� care center, a professional office building, and two seventy-eight unit Senior Citizen's buildings. Craig Waldron asked Yorkton to come in for the meeting to inquire about the status of their plans, and to consider the possibility of including this development in one of the tax increment districts. Mr. Iisakka indicated that the day care center was proceeding more rapidly than the remainder of the development, and that the estimated value of the building was apprc�ximately $700,OOO.QQ. He also stated that one of the seventy-eight unit Seniors buildings was in the planning process, and there were potential investors involved in considering the potential for that project. Mr. Waldron asked that Mr. Iisakka go back and talk to his boss, Mr. Lee, to inform him of the potential for including this praject in the tax increment finance district. The publ�c improvements which were discussed as poteritial for City participation were the extension of Grandview Avenue and the pos�ibilit�r of some soil correction. 4. Duane Albrecht, Gordie Heseth come back in because he has his existing Gordie had red to com� in and Albrecht Landscaping, 633-4510 had informed Mr. Albrecht that he had better to talk with staff at an Office Hour meeting, been constructing a second story addition on structure without a permit. This morning, tagged the construction, and told Mr. Albrecht discuss this situation. We rev�.ewed the history of Mr. Albrecht's development on the property, the conditions of his original rezoning, and a number of code violations which had never been satisfactorily re�olv�d on the subject property. At the conclusior� of the meeting, it was clear to Mr. Albre�ht that before he does any additional work on that property he will need to submit a revised plan to the City for approval, Gordie Heseth also requested that Mr. Albrecht provide hir� wi�h a set of the plans he is building from, so that h� can camment on code requirements. Mr. Albr�cht said that he would be in attendance at next Wednesday's meeting with a revised site plan. 5. Rosewood Corporation � Representatives of Rosewood Corporation, Mr. Gene O'Brien, Attorney tor Georg� Hart, and Mr. Johnson, Financial Advi.sox to George Hart were in. � i � Office Hours � March 26, 1986 3 � March 27, 1986 The meeting was held at the request of Rosewood Corporation to present the revised concept for the development of the Hart property, the adjacent Glacier Park property, and the single family lots along Highway 36. Rosewood Corporation requested the meeting because they were in the process of negotiating the purchase of the Hart property, and Mr. O'Brien was concerned about whether or not the City would approve the proposed development plan. Much of the conversation at the meeting focused on the City's intention to proceed with a quitclaim taking of the land for the extension of the Long Lake Road right-of-way. Mr. O'Brien was concerned that the City w�ould take the right-of- way land from Mr. Hart's property, and then exchange it with Rosewood Corporation for right-of-way which they would be dedicating within their proposed development. After considerable discussion, it was agreed that Rosewood Corporation should proceed with the preparation of and submission of Planned Unit Development concept drawings. Mr. O'Brien should f acilitate getting George Hart's signature on this application as the owner, indicating his agreement with the plans as submitted. Public Works Director Charlie Honchell agreed that the City would initiate an effort to postpone the quitclaim taking of the property for ninety days. We made it clear at the conclusion of the meeting, that the application and �ubmission for the Planned Unit Development should proceed in a timely fashion, and that the City would not postpone the quitclaim taking indefinitely. • 6. Doug Heck, 645-1235 Doug Heck returned after last week's meeting with the completion of a site plan, and after having received the signatures from all the adjacent progerty owners. It was determined that Mr. Heck had done all of the necessary work to complete the application for a minor variance. He was given an application form, and informed that if he returned the application form and a check for $25.00, that it would be acted on at the next meeting of the Minor Variance Board. 7. Gene Sloat, 474-4109 Gene Sloat was in regarding the remodeling of the NanKin Restaurant into a new Skippers restaurant on west Perimeter DrivP. We reviewed the site plan and the proposed elevations, and discussed a number of issues. The key determination yet to be made is regarding the shared parking agreement between this site and the adjacent Mr. Steak site. We explained the code requirements for shared parking, and told Mr. Sloat to get in touch with the manager of Mr. Steak to determine the number of seats. He will then get that information and determine how many parking spaces will be needed to serve both uses, and will get back to us with that information. C� • � Office Hours March 26, 1986 4 � March 27, 1986 Upon reviewing tl�e proposed architecture for the restaurant, the question was raised about whether or not the decorations which are attached to the facade of the building would actually fall within the definition of a sign. We reviewed the detinition of a sign in the zoning ordinance which, liberally interpreted, would include some of the details which are shown. This will be reviewed with Howard Dahlgren when he returns from vacation, and subject to his interpretation. We also recommended that they provide some irrigation for the site landscaping, because it is south facing and would be subject to burn-out in the summer if it weren't frequently watered. March 18 1�6 , TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren �J SUBJECT: OFFICE HOURS FEBRUARY 26, MARCH 5 AND 12, 1986 1. Stout, 772-3467 Chuck Stout is with Realty World, and is inquiring about splitting the duplex lot at 1612 and 1614 Skillman Avenue. The owner is Douglas Mitch, who resides at 1649 Ridgewood Lane (to the south). We checked the records, and found that the lot is already split, thus allowing for the separate sale of each living unit in the duplex. In response to our question, Chuck noted that Realty World is the largest national real estate system, with 2,300 offices. He said that Century 21 is next in size, then E.R.A., and REMAX. 2. Davis, 332-1234 Ted Davis and Mike Thompson, architect, were in to discuss proposed revisions to their Ebenezer Senior Citizen's pro- ject on the old Carbonni site on Hamline Avenue. The original proposal was a stick built (wood frame) on top of a masonry garage, built three stories high, thus spread- � ing out on the site considerably. They noted that their major investor was concerned about the project being too spread out, requiring considerable walking on the part of the elderly occupants. Tk�ey, therefore, proposed to consol- idate the buildings near the center of the site, and raise the level to more than three stories. The �tructures are now proposed to be entirely masonry, rather than wood f rame. This change would increase the setback on the south side from seventy feet (to the nearest single family lot) to one hundred and twenty-five feet. On the west sic�e, the setback would be increased from thirty feet (near the park) to one hundred and fifty-five feet. The parking ratio wauld stay approximately the same, at one space per unit. Total number of units would change from 212 to 215. These changes are substantial enough to require amending the Planned Unit Development. They are, there�ore, filing the appropriate plans, which we reviewed, for this purpose. Prior to the Planning Commission hearing, they will have a meeting with the neighbors to inform them �f the proposed changes. This change results in a higher quality dev�lopment. The scheme is more similar to the original cancept encouraged by . the staff. They had gone to the three story scheme in response to their concerns about neighborhood opposition. The tallest structures, however, are substantially further away from the neighbors, and are more concentrated so that the structures are not so long. r Office Hour 2 • February 26, March 5 and 12, 1986 March 18, 1986 • 3• Murlo wski, 633-6944 John Murlowski was in to discuss the an office/warehouse which he desires to�build incthe�nCityr He inquired about such a structure being built on a 2.78 acre site owned by Williams Pipeline Compan� a� the south- west corner of County Road C-2 and New Highway 8. This property has multi-family housing contiguous to the west, and is shown in the Comprehensive Plan as high density, multi-family housing. We suggested that rezoning this to industrial would be difficult, and inappropriate. We noted, however, that Williams Pipeline has 7.05 acres available to the south of Old Highway 8, and another 12.5 acre parcel availab�.e south of County Road C-2 and �asterly of 01d Highway 8. 4. Franke, 636-6400 Bill Franke, attorney, was in with Tic� Nelsea� from Jeff Nielsen's company, along with Mike Fowler and John Blumen- trip, both of Fowler Hanley Ar�hitectural Firm. The�r were in to meet with the staff on March 3, tio review revised plans for which the kaa,sic intention was to increase the capacit�v of th� parking in the vicinity of the 120 room � proposed hotel at the northeast corner of the site. The staff had previousl� expressed concern abaut the inader�uacy of parking in this area. They consequ�ntly moved the nartherly most structure further to the west, which results in a much improved acc�ss and parking �rrangement. They now have 772 parking spaces, of which 89 are in the underground garage. The square footage of the total development has bee� increased to 203,400 square feet, plus 120 motel room�. This results in a theoretical shortage of 68 cars, based on the five spaces per thousand required for office structures. �'hus, �he plan now has inct�Qased the building area (and taxable potential), anc' slightly decreased the are not concerned with Lhis, inasmuch as we have�found in recent surveys in work we have done in the southwest quadrant of Highway 100 and Highway 12 (in St. Louis Park) that wh�re large concentrations of offices are present (as in the case of Park Dale Center), the actual requ�ired was found to be 3.5 s aces Parking paxking for office space in thisp per thousand. The �er thousand, which is what is required�inSbothr�Stm�tLouis Park and Golden Valley. Thus, we feel that the current proposal will work, and constitute a more intensive development in the overal�. City's interest. � � � Office Hours� February 26, March 5 and 12, 19863 � March 18, 1986 5. Rosewood, 636-8050 Ted Yoch, President of Rosewood, was in with Joyce Kuchen- meister and Greg Schneider. They were in to discuss an electronic sign for the new United Savings and Loan office to occupy the old First Federal Savings and Loan site north of Rosedale. The sign will be programmed to provide time and temperature similar to the existing sign. We noted that if the sign is to be used to offer intermittent messages, that a variance would be required. The proposed .�gn is capable of running a continuous message across th� sign. We noted that the City will determine a policy with respect to such signage, and that in the mean- time such running messages will not be allowed. We reviewed this question with the �ity Attor�ey, who concurs that it comes within t�e classification of a"flashing sign" which is prohibited �.n the code. 6. Krier, 596-2276 Dic�C Krier is a planner with the Roger Derrick Company, and is looking for a multi-family Senior Citiz�ns' housing site in the Roseville ar�a. They are in the process of building a 112 unit structure for low and moderate income in Eden Prairie, where the rents ran;ge trom $389 to $460 (one bedroom) and $500-$600 for the two bedroom. Tl�is proj�ect is a seventeen units per ac�e, in a three stoxy wood frame structure, with brick v�neer. Parking is a� one to one. We examined potential locations in Roseville. There are, of course, relati,vely few undeveloped multi-family housing sites available in the Ci�y. Such a site near shopp�.�ng sexvices is ev�n more difficul�. Dick is going to check o�t several possibilities that we reviewed with him. 7. Sloat, 474-4109 Tynn Sloat is an archi.tect who is preparing plans for renno- v�ation of th� NanKin Express Restaurar�t to a new "Skippers" Seafood Rsstaurant. The NanKin Express is on the site �f the original Hardy's Restaurant, built abaut 1971, They propose to take out the drive-through lane, and add addi- tional parking. They are going to prepare �he appropriate site plans and interior plans for further sta�f review. The restaurant was proposed to have 94 seats. 8. Johnson, 636-0382 Jim Johnson was in with Mike Larson from the Welsh Company, wha purchased several of the office/warehouse buildings f�om Roberts Company. Jim Johnson runs Apache i��ving and Storage at 2962 Nnrth � Cleveland, and has been parking his trucks at that location. Ndr. Johnson notes there are approximately five trailers ar�d several tractors normally parked. He has been informed by Gordy Beseth that the parking of these vehicles is not al lo�ecl by code . • � ' e Hour•s Offic February 26, March 5 and 12, 1986 � March 18, 1986 His company is an agent for "American Red Ball" moving company. They also conduct warehousing operations at this site, which are not the problem. We agreed their truck parking was not allowed, and that they would move out at the termination of their lease five months from now. They have been there a year and one-half, and were told by Roberts representatives that they were allowed. Normally, if taken to court, a judge would give them a reasonable amount of time to move. Thus, we feel an agreement to move at the termination of their lease is reasonable. Mike Larson, representing the Welsh Company, (current owners of the property) agreed with this proposal. 9. Stephens, 484-5333 Hen Stephens is interested in puXchasing corner of Roselawn and Lexington, property that approved for Bob Graham as a Off Sale liquor Mr. Stephens informed us that the land has now to Harry Kath. the south�ast was r�cently store site. r�verted back Ben Stephens rec�ntly built Lexington Crossing at County Road E, which opened in September of 1985. H� proposes to develop th� Roseville site only i� he can acquir� the gas station on the corner. t�e noted that portions of t�e land ar� zoned H-1, and that th� resid�ntial landowners to th� north are concerned about ir�pendi�g impgct. 10. Space Center Tom Moran, from the Spac� Center organization, was in �o revie��r th�ir pr�eliminary proposal to c4nstr�uct a new 200,000 square foot office building connecting the existing struc- tures they own, occupied by the Sp�rry Company. They hav� empl4yed the Architects Allianc� tH�rb Ketchum in charg�) who have prepared a.preliminary site pl�n far tl�e entir� property west of walnut Street. This would be a S25 million, four-story st�ucture t� be built across Te�minal Road in a manner similar to what w� hav� discus�ed in th� past. 'This would involve the vacation of Terminal Road �rom Walnut Stxeet to the west, and the vacation oF High�rest. This, too, has been previously r�vi.ew�:d and makes s�nse in terms of the consolida�ion of the property into a single structuxe. The Kalst�d building to the north of the main structures would be removed� and th�t sit� would be redeveloped for a new parking l�at �or�taining 1,340 cars. The siting of the new structure would require �he removal of 150 parking spac�s, giving us a net increase of 190 spac�s. We suggested that they ou�ht to consider build�.ng a taller structure, noting that the long horizontal mass of the existing structures would make this aesthetically �ppropri- ate (and desirable). Tom indicated he would pass that on to his colleagues. • �� Office Hour• 5 February 26, March 5 and 12, 1986 C_� March 18, 1986 The action would include the Space Center people combining the existing parcels to a single lot, an application to vacate the streets, and the processing of site plan review. It the new structure combines the two existing principal structures into one building, r�o PUD would be required. We suggested h� review the proposal with the Fire Marshal regarding accessibility and geometrics for life safety equip- ment. Mr. Moran will get back to us as plans develop. 11. Adams, 699-9499 Mr. Adams informs us th� Rose Bowl will be available for lease as of June 1, 1986. This is a 20,000 square foot b�ilding. Mr. l�,dams represents the "Original Boosters" Club, which is ��raternal organization chartered in the St. Paul arc�a s�,xty-five years ago. He nates that many of th� current members are from Rosevill�. Ti�� o�ganixation �pparently giv�s 530-40,000 gnnually to variaus ch$riti�e. �i� is inquiring ss to th� possitaility of th� Booat�rs Cluk� 1�asing 20,004 squar� fe�C of the buildinq, and l.easing th� ren�aindcY fox re�ail purposes. WQ expre�s�d our cancern regarding ad�quscX o� parki�g, in$smuch as thc� Club would hav� a m�eting roa�n w�h3ch wa�ld al�o bc� 1ea►s�d �A otl�er usars. Such a roor� would lik�ly r�guiro at leest or�� h�nelred park�ng $pa�cQ� by its�lf. l��. Honchell n�tQd �ha� the �ar��nq ta the �ast si�� oF th� str��tura will ba lost whc�n th� .improv�m�n�� or Snelling Av�nuo �r� con�tructed in �987. �t� Qxpressac� conceacr� for the d�v�lop��r�� of rcatai� store� on �Ma sit�, unl@ss tha gtores ar� o�ient�d �or parktng to th� raar, Obviou��, fo�r ret�il p�rposas, tho building i� turnc�d �ro�cred on the sitc�� the parl�ing should bc� ori�nt�d �o �h� front t�a�st sid� ). We su�gest�d it migh� &� appropri�ta to simply taaar th� buildit�q do�rn, and red�velop th� pr�operty, possibly in con� junction w,�th th� op�n ].and to the north which is part o� the MeDoe��?d' $ sit�. t�e noted tha�t th� �@ar p9r�fon twes�t�rly side) of ths M�cDanald's prnpo�ty is �e�n�d 8-1, and thus ca�not bQ us�d for ratail parkinq. 12« Iisakka� 641-5603 �ef� Iisakka�s a d�siqn�r with th� Yorktor� Cot�pan�, who h�ve a PUD for a day care cen��r, officc� bu,�ldinq, and two Senior Citizera multi-family housing structures approv�cl at th� northeast corner of Highway 36 and Lexington Avenue. Hc� was in with tioug McMillan, �an attorn�y �aho has �ecently joined the Yorktan Company. � Hour� Office February 26, • � � � March 5 and 12, 1986 March 18, 1986 They propose to change the configuration on the day care center by adding ten feet to the length af the building to the east and ten feet to the south. The parking would be increased from nineteen cars to twenty-six cars� This change, we feel, is minor eno�agh not to require an amendment to the PUD. The square footage of the building changes f rom 6,900 to 9,116. TY�ere would be no impact with respect �o the residential neighborhood to the north. _. Honchc�ll noted that the drainage engineering }aeing� do�ne by the Hedl�nd Engineering Comp�ny is partially cat�plete. We revi.ewed these drawinqs, and th�y are going to proae�d wi��, additional ana�lysis and solu+kion �or th� ponding and hendY�ng of the dra,�nag� ior th� en�ir� sit�. ThQy not�d �hat �hey do no� havE thc� additional p�rking propo��d in t�►@ plan from the �hurch group to thQ northeast. We suggastad t�at i� tho �askinq as�xangam�nt is �ubs��n- ti�,a��,�► a��t�rQd, that tho plans shou�d b� rovia�w�d again �s an em�nd�d Pt�D. chttrchgs�ptop�trt��o � �thi��$add�.�i�na�� p��ti�►n o� thQ par�ing would t�a thc� best golut�on. 1�3. T'uomi_,_ 6,36-�4040_ w�to R�h Tuo�ni raprQ�ont� th� lCey�tonc� Autamo�ive� Company, who�o$a�e suto ps�� o� or�c o� thQ w�reh�u��s o�anQd by �ht� �d��a Company e�ss� o� ��QVQlera�l, n�orth oE Gou.n�y Road C-2. ��P�Q� alse �o�s� �n arQ� of ��nd �rom �he D�o�cel �"rai�ar Compa�y in�r►c�cila�ely south of C'ounty �toed C-��, on wl�ich thay h�v� b�c�n s��srin� a�d ��g l�um�rs ��ncc� 1��64 '�ha s�aCa invo��re� app��rs t� ta� a�rp�oxir��te�y i00` �c �30` . T�e Buil�i�q �ns�ctor h�s �n�o�cmQd thom tt��t �his o�n s�orag►� �s �o� ��1aw�d in �ha I-2 ��r�in� c�is��ict. �t�. Tu�mi su�g��ted �hat thQy on�$h� �bu,i�.d � Ec�nce� axaund it. w� natad tha�r this wo�l�l �c+t bc� appr�a��i��s�, �r�d th8� �h� area is #�mporten� �o t�Q ��y ina�nn�ch a� �u.k��ean�i�al �oclQvelczp�rant i� schadu�c�ci for �hQ a�r�� $a�� of C�ovela�►c� Avc�nue� �dr. Tuami a�rQcad tl�at tht�y wauld l�asa �p��a �n thc� �,re�►, anci mova the �um�Q�s �nsid�, i� �h��+ w,i�h to s�� in Rosev3.11o. l�c� sa��d i�c woUld contact h�s s��rui��o�c, �1 Ronco, vicca-Fr��id�c�t, with th� hom� oEficg ir� P�.mana, Cal3fornia. `r►Q �uc�gQ�tad the app�apri�� QluC,ion would invQ�ero $ le�t�� rom tha� commit�inq to rQ�mcauQ th� bump�r� by a ct�rta►in Point �£n �imc�. Cu�rron�ly, mar�� of eho bumpa�'$ �re fro�on in the i�o, and it wa�lrl �pp�ar r�asonab�e to Y�mye t2�n bumpers moved wh�n wQstk►er conditions are marQ �ppropri$te. / f � � J+ �� N�' . /� �� - �. �,,'� �� `r;'f ' �� i / �_!. ,; /.or � ; � ,� i: / � , � �'' �' ` i' ,'` $ ,� � , �% � �� re��/�, s'f� � �f � `! , ` ,� 'f;'!' ,1�'.' d'7 f / . r e .; � °A,;�'; . , . �r�f ' . , � f . ' j f � # � . � . .� ./ t �� Itf_ f ' � .1� , . .1r �J � f {� . . �F�' F . . r � / r. � �f / / r �;. . �., . . 1 � �� 1: � ' .' . 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Formo, 646-2940 Jerome Formo owns a house built on one of two lots that he owns at the southeast corner of Mid Oaks Lane ancl St. Mary`s P►venue. He wish�s to reestablish one of the lots in its ariginal form (80' x 150'), and se11 it for a n�ew Y,ome site. 4�e suggested a survey b� prepared showing the 3.ocation of the �xisting hame, which appears to meet rec�uirements fo� reestablishing �he contiguous 1ot as a builci�ble site. Thus, this can la� procass�d As a:.ot split through the Pl,anning Commis�ion and Co�ncil, 1�, �►hlc�ui�t, b36-640Q Clycl� Ahlqu,i�t own� a duplex �� lot north of �Coun�y Ra�d �-2, gastc�rly �f I,oxingtar� ��e�nu�. Tho d�u��Q�e has ��parat� saw�z� ar,d wat�r Xinc�s, wi�h a par�y �ral� �oir�q d�n t'h� micic3lc� o� �tho lcsra �tr. Hor�cha�l conf�rmecl �ha�t a�ct dlivi- �ian ��r �hi� prop��t� can }�a ap�ro�c�d by the �ta�f whc�r� +�hcr l�nd i� �onod �-�, snd a�l ccdc� re�uir�tmen�ta a�� r�tW 16. �haa► 933R6n30 � Dar�a�ll ��w en� .7�� i�olan �ra ;s�r�nc�� a� � e�aonp�ny c��c�+d AA3l�[.�� o��cicrn�l�1 Sa��i�a�, Inc. "', a+�ich a��n� t� �t�n �� th�t �the�r �� p��r�eQ �Q�c��ee��. �h�� w�nt �� rnove tM�� 0��3�� o a psiv�� r��ar�ca �t th� ��c� o� th+� cu�-c��-�a� c�r� Bu.�ti� ��ruee ir� th� ��c��ty �� th� n�r�hc�� q�ua�,��►ne c�� 'Tr�nk ��0 �r�d Cv�a�+�� Ro�� 1�� dQ �C�V�tliaBCt� ��3t; R"�1Gtt�"t �'4�j?�,C��i1'�" �!!'�10,,,��iC�Ot1�� l4,�IC �t1��@�1CQt� �� t �h� �- � �an,��o r�� e�� ear �he� �r� ��e��► �h�,� h�nnc ��r th�ia a�� a��d � �� d��i�r��.� �c� �G��t��ar� �n� ��►�c��,�a�� a�e��b��, �€+� �u��r��.�� lbt��n�� ca��a �� th� �a�� s��tl�r�t��►� ��-�e�� c�r�.�t��c� � �ds�� a��d�� r�� ik�l� �u��n" t b� a��p��ave� c�+��n �n th� unl �3��yr �v�� h� ��i�hl�� c�i�d� R e ��.�+� � �7. �aetl�n �9�-9�00 �a�in �,�er�� n �� n�� +��h �'o��, ��+�. Qa�d�a�+ �ndl 1'i�\��4d��F3�l�l� �&iLb' �"k�� L� {OIY��4 ��14� �6d'1��►�df� M,��lQ�1if�1.�l4� i��LF' d�or��r��t�rn ��1�� n ��+�� l�c,�� a� a �r�viffie�tl PU'C�� ,�cahn"� �3�r� ha� pce��z�� h�� a�n�a�� n� �� o�� m��lc�tion, wfi��h i� ��r �r,�tz��tt�cc� �r�r he��n� �a�� t�� ►l�na��n� Cc��,�n �t �� ri� meat�n�. 'Th� ��1��i�fl �� mll�r �er �h�►� w�� h�� k��n d��eu�s�� +��th the ��a�� n ��i�� a� �nQe��r�� i� e�h� y��t� f�w r�on��, �xce�t� th�t� �h��► h�va sc�d�d ��id.��i�n�l �,��}�,�n� �c�r tM� �uture� r��r�a= ��an�l �u�i�di n� �� di��c�s�Qd �� uiou� m��rein�s. A��. Nanchc��.� xewia�+�d thQ p�� nir��r� dr�i�a��a �on�c�p�e ar�c� arid�£t3Qna� wo�l� wi�l b�s dc�r�c� �� thi� a�ea. �t�s�� a�� prc�pea=i,nc� �or �ppii,ca��o�i �o �1iv R1s;a c;�€��ic �s��r,�1�c� Ai�t�ict �or thir month"� m�c��in�. I� epge��rs tha� tha arQa► of impact �hat may b� a� sama ceancorn to �ha naighb�ax�s �re� thc� ��nnis csaurts to �� en��ruct�d ne�r thc� northea�� orner Qf th$t pa�tion o� th� c�mpus in �hs� City� nf �tos�-� vill�. • Office Hours February 26, March 5 and 12, 1986 ❑ March 18, 19�6 , The first stage of the development will be expansion and � reoxi.entation of the baseball anei softball field, coupled witk� the rerouting of the secondas�aac��esWill tinclude��ths �iue of �he progerty. Later 9 development of an additional dormitory, an3 ultimately '�h� recreation► lauildi�g. 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Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. iAvon St. .Bayview Dr. Beacon St. Belair Cir. �Belmonti Lane Qismarck Ave. Bossard Or. Brenner Ave. E3renner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Ch�ndl�r St. Cha tsrrorth �Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Ciarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road 0 Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. pellwood St. Dionne Ave. Diortne St. H:4 Draper Ave. � 4 lI 13 C-D:13 �� >> Little Bay Rd. A:17,18 � Draper Drive F,K:13 Dunlap St. F Long Lake Rd. A-F:3 v� E:16 , ,L:12 Lo ,�d. J:5 � � � Eldridge Ave. I:5,7,8,10-_ , ye 3-16 I,K:16 Elmer St. J:19,20 ia'' e A � �„ I: 2 0 Eu s t i s S t. E, y: l ��-�s- .,'�� . �: 7.5,6e-^l .._,�.,...,...a,:,m,. A,B,F,H:10 Eve7yn St. A:5 �Y rt A:i B,E,J:7 Lydia Dr. 4 Evergreen Ct. J:5 Mackubin St. � �� K-L:16 Fairview Ave. A-J:6 Manson St. w8:�1::� ��-,.:..;,m.�..:;� A-C,F,J:9 Fairways Lane I:2 Maple Lane B:1,7,8,20 B'6 Farrington Ave. I:19 Maple Lane Ct. B:19 A:6 Farrington CT. A:19 Marion Rd. H:3 A'B'J'9 Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 Marion St. B-I,L:20 G:19 Farrin ton Circle F:19 Matilda Circle F•19 K•1� 9 �\� Ryan Ave. �� Sandhurst Drive andy Hook Dr. extant Ave. hady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewaod Cv. & �ryer Ave. La. �9-13,17 `, �L,14,15,17,19 A�:'r, F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 �:�10-14,16,17 A �O;F,J:9 J�6 �0-12,16,20;I:7 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 Matilda St. B-D,F,G:19 Snelling Curve E-F:9 � A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. C-E,H:11 �4cCarron Blvd. N. J:18-20 Snelling Serv.Dr. W B-D:8 J:18 Fisk St. E:15 McCarron Blvd. S. K,L:18-20 Snelling Serv.Dr. E A-D:9 E,F,J:i Fry St. �-F,I:8 McCarrons St. B-D,H,K:11 $ �11 Dr. G:18 B:11 Fulham St. G-J:2 Midland Grove Rd. H:4 H. 35W A-B:4; G-H:1-4 I:10,11,16 Galtier Circle F:20 Midland Nills Rd. J:3 S:�• G-H:1-20 G:19 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Midlothian Rd. H-I:8 - H. 6 S v. G-2-4 H:18 Garden Ave. K:11,12 y Mid Oaks Lane & Rd. J;8 ••• 36 S . H:3-4,7,8,17 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 S.T.H 280 H-J: 1 A:2 Giesmai St a t I �! Mildred Dr. A,6:6 St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 A:1 e�� ' � ��llwood Ave. B:7-8,10,13-15 St. Croix G,H:2 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-1 K:17,18 ��]�Mijflwood St. 6:1,19 Si. Stephens St. H:2 �:19 - H=6 �'NI'�Iton St. A,H,:14 �-y Gluek Lane N& S =, H:6 Mir�re.sota ave. G:18-20 ,.�ii ��g e L'� � F:7,8 Grandview Ave. G;�13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. J:1 ""' � d I:10-14,19,2Q G i gs St. C,D• 2 Mount Ridge Rd. State arm o(F`aci"""' � H:19,20 E-H�5 Stuber Road � H:19 ' R d,� � H:8 ' 4 .Summer St. K:12 � J'17 ""'�'Hanfii'rf2"f�J�. �--�- � �� Talisman Curve D:10 C:7,9,10,18 � T��re'�� .-S,lI 15�.,3� Tatum St. J•6 � K:20 Hand Ave. G, Oakcrest Lane E:19 � Terminal Road F:l-3 % Heinel Dr. A-D:15-17 Old Highway 8� 2°"�' � K:17 Heinel Cir�le C-16 Orchard Lane s Terrace Dr. C:7,10,1 18;�-D:15-16 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. E,H:7 Owasso Blvd. S A-C:16- Tophill Circle G:18 A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. �:7 Owasso Blvd. W A-6:15-16 Transit Ave. F:9-14,16-20 D:12 Highcrest Road A,B,G,H:1 Oxford St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Troseth Rd. A:9,10 Hilltop Ave. K-17 Parker Victoria St , -�; �, A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 e R 8;33415 Virginia Av � 19 Holton St. F:10 "` ' � G�, H-J:18 Huron Ave. K:lI t.� A-F H-J:10 Virginia C�. e;�,,�,,,,.,, `1'� • G 1018 Hurcn St. C-D:11 Patton :,_ q_g'1 Wagener Place ; Hythe St. J:4 Pineview Ct. � K:16 Wagner St. K:17-19 H:9,id . Walnut St. E-H:1 G:15 16 � �' C=18 rose rve D:10 West Perimeter Dr. G:6 , H:1-20 � 8"" � ,;11C�D-�"'°"".�..J"`•""°."';'� r�� Circle B-5'I-J 5 Western Ave. B-K:18 F:5-20 Irene Circle C:1� er Court �;lg Westwood Circle J:4 0:1-2U Irene Court F:1 Rambl Rd. Wewers Road E:20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. E,F,H,I:18 Raymo _`'�f _.4, Wheaton Ave. D:15-16 A:1-7,12-16 Josephine Rd. 6:11,12 Rice��u��.• � Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 I'18 Judith Ave. C:10-13,18 Ridgewood la.�N & S � Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 E:11 Karyl Place I:12 Ridgewood Rd. q;g Wilder St. A,I:5 K:16 Kent St. B D,J,L.:17 Roma Ave. L•11-23,16,19 William St. I,J:19 C-L:16 Lake St. J-2 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 W�llow Circle E:11 � C,I-t:ll Lakeview Ave. C,D:13 Rose Vista Ct. L:11 Willow Lane E:11 E�H:11 Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 Roseda�e Dr. �•3 Woodbridge Circle G:20 L:19 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Roselawn A�e. J:2-14,17 Woodbridge Court L:20 L:12,13 Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Rosewood La. N& S J:3-4 ��l+*�M�T1+�R°,R��7� �~ Lindy Ave. I,L:12 Ruggles St. K:11-13 � ussetl Ct. g;g � t - . . , , •'� ��`� `�`' ` . s�t.� wao � .��.�t`r _,��t, ,:_�_...�--- IN1�1 O �ATIVE . p. s � Q � . MICT�I�GRAPHICS . 4D . . D U E TO THE PC)OF� CQ��I�iTlUIV OF THE P�EC��C�INC� D�CUI!/iE(\IT W� CANNCJi :� PR�DUCE AN A�CEP�A�LE M��C)FILM IMAC�E.� ■ � ' � �6, February 21, 1 � '�O: FROM: SUBJECT: O � Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS JANUARY 29, FEBRUARY 12, AND 19,1986 1. Albrecht, 484-3813 Norman Albrecht and his immediate neighbor to the northeast, each own one and one-half contiguous lots. The lots are 75 feet in width. This division was approved by the City many years ago and, subsequently, the rear of Mr. Albrecht's lot was divided with frontaqe on the Millwood Avenue cul-de-sac when that street was built. Mr. Albrecht is inquiring whether the lot they share in th� center could be sold as a separate parcel. The answe,r is that it could be, with5�feetainrwidth,inasmuch as all the lots in the area are 7 2. Goldstein, 636-9000 Bruce Goldstein, Paul Mueller (Realtor) and Bruce's partner, Craig Oberlander, were in to di�cuss the possibility °Mr. constructing a Residence Hotel on the Hart property. Goldstein has a franchise for the Residence Hotels chain. There is currently one in Edene�centloccupancy?� rooms�, which has been having ninety-eight p The Residence Hotels are similar to townhouse sia.ites, and occupied by persons frequently staying up to three weeks. The units a�e two stories high. We informed Mr. Goldstein that the intensity of the Resi.dbu�e Hotel dzd not meet the guidelines for the Hart property, that combined with a high-rise office structure on the site, it may be considered. We informed Mr. Goldstein that preliminary indications from the hotel market study ini.tiated by the City suggests that a Budget or Residence Hotel c-�ould be workable at this time, but a full-service hotel would not. We are of tr.e apiniQserviceahotelaeinasmuchlas�theynserve compete with a full distinctly different markets. Mr. Galdstein agreed to return with a revised site plan, in.dicating what coul�. be done to augment the intensity of the site by adding a high-rise office structure. 3. S ap ce Center, 690_-2529 Tom Moran and Larry Banett were in to discuss possible development of the Paper Calmenson site as it relates to development they are contemplating to the west of the vicinity of the Hyatt Hotel. The consens�is is that a saft demand f�r office space makes it difficult ta redevelop the site, except over an extended period of time. � � 6. Office Hours S January 2g, February 12 an � 2 d 19. 1986 They rQ f io Wed develo pro acres pen . Pments po 4. February 21, 1986 noted �ndustr.ial land rema ns � t�e West. that the Paper CaZ�enson ln �hat �entY-five sellin�, and that the People are area. They possible offerS, y are eonsiderin serious about 5, along W• �pace Center, 690-2529 Tom Moran and Larr`— construct y Banett ith �thers, Glendenninan °ffice buildinal�o re�riewed a g Motor Frei �°n �he north p�Opos�l to aPpears that Lincoin ght site (WeSt p�r�ion of the old '��opA�ng �enter properties is serio�s �way Forc� ) I.� Center peO le �n the southerl about � remainir� p are contem Y sz�teen building the � land to the platlnq an offic�acres, and the Space north. �uilding on th� We agreed that a public access, the znitial �tree� wOuld public righ��o�_ Phases of which be �he d�Propriate (�outh �aY extendin�g e,�s.�er�he CitY provided consideration Lido Cafe Y to snellin for the of the site). We encoura e g Avenue would be highl o.ffice structure g d�heir continued. develo y �ompatible wxth �he officech We su pment to the south. Osho ggeS�ed 5. Lund p�'ln� center Cliff Lund 9was ,�n their proposal Wlth Jim Lammers a 3,� to construct � Architect, acre si�e at 1957 a�1'936 S tQ review now appear to WeS� Count quare foot building on be workable, �nd Y Road C..� °� a strip of land to includ� • Revised plahs Langton Lake the east of t�e a S�xtY foo� dedication feet Parkway, The sitF conta , or approximatel s�rip of land i� 3�4 guous to Y one-half acre, feet by 60 The structur� of approximatel of ribbed block, y t�ent rev.iewed re flnished all th� waY p�rcent office on a quired procedures Y around the WO�'1d be public street �� nclude variance building, We prQpertY line ► �ariance to setback tO frontage tY�°graphy and preliminary paat drawin along a common tions anc� landsca�vl'�ions for utilitiess to in�Zude ped site p1an. � and buildin g eleva_ We emphasized the ne�d how the large ,�ount offOr a reuised gradin site wi11 be handled, dirt at the g plan, indi�at�ng northeast corner of the �rannon 5�q_Q,�92 Dorothy �nd Rod Brann�n their "solar car wa,�h Were �.n to discuss W� discussed " development down development of proposed and revisions to the retainin °� Lar P aP.�roved b g wall p`"nteur Avenue . Site• The�r are findin Y�he �lty� on the ` Wh1Ch was considering eXpa�sion g this to be eX easterly ,�ide o,� the area of the °f the parkin �'�nsive, and are nortM re n�rth. We noted that g lnto the residential a�d that�uired the land area the the develo to the such ex y p��V� pment residential areaPcould befaCO�ercial �Or density purposes, problem, parking zn a . Office Hours � • 3 February 21, 1986 January 29, February 12 and 19, 1986 � 7. Goff, 4Ei4-2566 Pat Goff is looking for a site in Roseville to develop some eight unit mul.ti-family housing structures. We reviewed possiblP locations rvhere such development could be constructed. We noted that development of the si.te north of the School District's high sch�ol site off Western Avenue would be impractical without access through the Grauel property, just north of th� intersection of Western Avenue and south Owasso Boulevard. 8. Michae�son, 690-5548 Morris Michaelson was in to inform us that he has now purchased the old Kugler Museuan and house site at 1242 Diane Street. We noted the �-1 zoning of the property, and outlined uses permitted in �hat zone. Mr. Michaelson tunes pianos, and we noted tha� hauling pianos in and out, and rebuilding of p.a.anos is not a permitted use in the B-1 district. Most piano tuning, however, is done out of the shop. We suggested Mr. Michaelson contact the F'irst Minnesota Federal Savings and Loan regarding their interest in the site. � 9. Edlund � Jim Edlund was back to review revised plans for futux�e expansion of his site, and in conjunction with praposed changes f�r the Snelling Avenue service road on the east side of his property. MNDot will be building 'the improvemen� in 1.987, and he will make no changes in the front until that time. In the r�ar, he proposes ta change a 34 foot curb cut now used for head-in parkzng to a 24 foot driveway with six parking spaces, This work could b�e accomplished this Summer, and he may apply for apprapriate approUals this Sprina. The salution agreed upon for the east side (next to the service road) includes eliminating two of the three curb cuts that now serve the office structure in the house that he owns n�xt door. Parking directly off Skillman Aver�ue would b� eliminated (a desirable solution). 10. Banet, 646-7901 Reed Banet an.d Stephen Binek, from Paul Pink's Architec�tural off ice, were in to discuss the develapment of a new strip shopping center on the west side of Lexingt�n Avenue (nor�h of the First Minnesota Federal Savings and Loan Office). This s.ite is 554 feet by 196.27 feet. The building will b� 27,150 squaz•e feet, requiring 13i parking spaces. There will be an additional 25 spaces to provide overflow parking � for Old Mexico. Their plans are also being revised �o add additional parking spaces on the east sideo � � � � 4 Office Hours 12 and 19, 1986 January 29, February • February 21, 198� ro osals for redesigning both parking We reviewed preliminary P P eliminating some of the lots on the east side of Lexington, curb cuts, and providing for new �urbThistresultsninnan� more efficient parking arrang�men increase, which will assist in �acklwithtmoreldefinitive parking as well, They will be b plans following the r�visions we discussed with them. 11. Northwestern Colle e 631-5250 Dr. Ericksen, President oceduresWanderequprement Warren Fall to review Pr �rocessing the revised plans for that portion of in the City of Ro�eville. was s for the in with campus Dr. Ericksen expressed some consubmiss�on packageywould be requi�ements. We noted thathad previously processed, to the same as th�t which they rading include overal.l developmenin ��narchitecturallglans�for and drainage plans, prelim Y ro o�ed strucutures, revised landscaPeeOmetricsnofdiriter5 p p curbing, an g as tQ road construc�ion, ear to be appropriat� and sections. The current pians app wa �kab1�, and now largely a matter af approPriate processing and review. r, Ericksen noted that Les H�ndrickson, of T.K.D.A., will D the required drawings. This firm be in charge of preparing wh�reas is also the architect for tchitect�onithebnewdresi�.ence Wolt�rstorff wi1�. be the ar structure. 1�, SuAer �erica Mike Holt, Architect with Sup�o oSedlsignage fo� the�new� A�torney, were ir� to review � P Super America �tructure at the northeast corner o� County Road B and Lexinqton. lon of 80 square feet, 38 feet from They proP�� a single PY and 50 square fee� of sign �n the or�.Jinal property line, o� the face the building. We noted that additional siancorner lot, the �Qy�� of the -��-1-� woulcl not be allowed. toe200 feet. It was C `�� lg an ge on the structure can be up a reed that the signage proposed wauld be withiri ordinance 9 requirements. 13. Grace Church 633 6479 Grace Church of Roseville, was in John Benham, representing School program, to inform us that as part of their Sunday they intend to set up a small book store of 350 to 400 square eet which would involve the sale of�� actlofmzon�nghonrh f ► members• He was concerned about the P ch an op�ration. We informed him that if there is no sign su to memlaers of the congre- outside, and sales are principally gation, we would consider this a normal part of church operations. � � � Of f ice Hours 5 January 29, February 12 and 19, 1986 February 21, 1986 We sugges�ed that if the church gives, rents, or sells religious material to their members, it really isn't any of our business. What we don't want is a store, labeled as such, catering to the outside public. 14. Casci, 631-2996 Mark Casci has a three acre property at 1910 West County Road C, with a frontage of 217.5 feet. He operates a painting and decorating company from the site. He has contemplated developing a portion of it with some mini storage facilities in the rear of the property, retaining some of the existing structures in the front. We suggested that it would be far more appropriate to redevelop the entire site, and that he should concentrate on selling the property for that purpose, inasmuch as he notes that his decorating business could be elsewhexe. We did not want to encourage him to redevelop the property with a half- way measure, which might prove deleterious to his interests as well as that af the City. 15. Oberlander, 636-9000 Craig Oberlander and Ted Davis were in with Milo Thompson (Architect) to review their projected proposal for the development of the iiart site. They presented a design concept which included 128 units of residential hotel, with two and one-half story structures with eight units per building. The easterly portion of the site was a 140,000 square toot, seven stary office building. The office building structure would be similar �o one recently completed at 1221 Nicollet Avenue in Minneapolis. The office structure utilized two parkinc� ramps to augment parking capacity. They have an option agreement with George Hart, which they felt could still be implemented. Apparently Mr. Hart (as told to u.s by his attorney, Mr. 0'Brien) is now so seriously ill that he cannot legally validate an option or a� sale. Should h� live on in that stat�xs, the possibility of a sale to a develop�r could be a prablem with respect to its timing. Mr. Oberlander noted that should they proceed with the development, they would 1ikely engage a life insurance company partner. They are prepared to proceed with the hotel facility immediately, and the office building depends upan mark�t studies and market growth. Total development could constitute considerable development� but would prevent the possibility of a single developer developing with more of the property at a larger scale. We are, of course, talking to several developers with such prospects. � � Office Hours 6 January 29, February 12 and 19, 1986 16. Oberlander, 636-9_000 Craig Oberlander, Ted Davis, and with us con��emplated adjustments Pointe Senior Citizen project on approved by the City. February 21, 1986 Milo Thompson also reviewed in their plans iur the Rc��e Hamline Avenue recently The� have concluded that the woodframe structure, strung out as approved, is inferior to an all masonry structure, constructed more compactly so as to cut down the walking distances for the elderly. They showed us a revised site plan which would increase the height of a porti.on of the structures near the center of the property, maintaining th� density as previously approved, but with larger setbacks to the south and west. We noted that the changes are perhaps beneficial, and w� Goncurred that a re�iew of a revis�d development plan would b� appropriate to be processed through the Planning Commission and Council after further detailed anal.yses. 17. Esteb, 484-1390 Julie Estab resides at 976 Love11 Avenue, and was i.n witk� Tony Reiling to r�view her proposal to add a t�ird bedroom on the f irst f loor level of her home . Her house is set bac�ruct5af14tfootmadditionntoward1ther ��d she propose� to cons stre�t. Adding this addition to th� rear of the hous� vaould be possible, but would require the r�moval of a large maple tree. Tnasmuch as the addition wrauld l�ave a�twenty--two and one-half foot front yard, it appears as though the addition, as proposed, wauld be reasonable. We informed her as to procedures and requir�ments for application far a minor variance. 18. Eckart, 296�7634 Bob Eckart is an engineer from the PCA, and p�oposes to �ind a location �or a 1Q foot by 20 �oot house trailer, within which the PCA has air quality monitoring equipment, which they desire to locate somewhere in Rosevi2le for a nine to ten year period. We inquired as to whether or not this equi�+ment could be placed in a structure rather than in a house trailer. He indicated that tY�is was possible, and we suggested that he abandon an attempt to locate a trailer in the City, and iook for a building inew�ai � ahspac�uthatntheaPCP,ecanirentneci, H e i s, t h e r e f o r e, i n n either from the City, or a private building owner. � � U Office Hours � January 29, February 1.2 and 19, 1986 February 21, 1986 This monitoring is now being done at their site in Roseville, from which they propose to move between August and November, to a strus�us�•npaultheWePsuggestedrthatltheg on Lafayette �,n northea PCA could write a letter to the City Manager requesting space, if some is available, and that their bes� e�fort might be toward seekinq space in a structure somewhere in the City other tha� a City-owned building. 19. Dueschero 484--7664 Marge Duescher lives at 951 West County Road C-2, and proposes da add ae sidetlot se�backswould�be seven andeone- house, wherein th half feet. We were aY�le to determine that this lot was platted just after 1959, and therefore a ten font s�tback is required. The houses to th�e east were pl.a�ted �ri.or to that, and have a�ive foat setback requirement. Though 'they are ade3ing to the front as well, tiae resul�ant setback will exce�ed the farty £aot maximum required in a residential di.s�ric�, T'he existinc� home is set back 59.6 feet. 20. Rosewood, 635-�450 Fred Katter, P�ter �iilger, Gary Norc�ne�s, and Wayne Architect, were in to review �their proposal for the of the residential properties north �f Highway 36, property, and the�G��o��e� usrthey k�ave�option�dgall NorthernD. T��Y re�icl�n�ial prapertie�s, but do not h�ve ogtions on property or �Y�e Glacier Park property. Bishop, development the Hart o� tY�e the Hart '�hey presented an overall concept plan for the dsvelopanent of the er��ire proper�y', which included movins� Frontage Roaci n4rthwest�rly of �he interchange into th� 3.nterior of the property. In the �vent that all th�se properties can l�e gut �together, we concur that such realigriment af the Frontag� Road may be feasible• a�,c�ls�areedevelopedbseparatelyficult to accomplish if the p The Ro�ewood people would request that the Council delay ar�y � construction ior the extension of Lang Lake Road until th�y can atk�mpt ta accomplish�a��e��qh��lacquisitian ofe�ight-ot- properties involved. We way� could continand�could be�adjusted iflthey areeable ta ext�r�s�.on plan, acquire all �� t�he proFerties. They are requesting to meet with �he Council to review their outlined propasal, and to request the delay as outlined. � One of the major problems with the delay is that the geometrics of �h��hetbridgelroad�will�beaqui.te�different� new extension of with either plan. 0 • � Office Hours g January 29, February 12 and 19, 1986 February 21, 1986 There are some questions, in our opinion, as to whether or not the Rosewood people will be abl� to acquire all the property. We are also concerned about the level of intensity t�iat they have proposed in preliminary drawings previously review�d. The basic problem is that to achieve a level of intensi�y that we are looking for, the developer is going to have to have the strength and the caurac�e to "make" part of the market by farging ahead, rather than waitinc� for the market to be Qbvious. We feel strongly that a major "Class Ones' office building would be successful in Rasevi.11e now, and that a Class One hotel would be succe�sful as well, aftex the bridge is complete. W� suggest proceeding with ar.,quisition of right-ot-way now, and in the meantime make every effort to get �he best develap- ment plan and developer that we �an prior to �onstruction of the north/south link and the service roads. 21. Philb�eck, 4�4�6018 Donald Philbeck is the Pastor of the Assemblies of God Church, and was in with Leonard Vol.in ta review their preliminary p�.ans for the e�xpansion o� the church facility. They now seat 140 pec�ple in their sanctuary, and pro�ose to expand it to up to 250 seating capacity. The ae�ditians �rould not ir��ring� u�on I�he req�u�.red setbacks, an� the on1� real question is one of providing for adequa�e park�.ng. We suggested th�y provide the par}�inq, eve� though it may exceed slig�tly that whi�h they actually need, The� are going to review theix plans �ur�her, and will get back �o us as �he plans firm up. 22. PetersAn, 339-7121 Richard Peterson is an attorney, repx°esentit�g the KAL Leasing Company, which owns CareCabs, Inc. They rent about 6�000 square fe�t in an offic� wareho�u$e strt�cture southea�t o� the cul�de-sac on Terrae� Drive. They� are x�stc�ring mnd repairing buses from that site, some of which are, in fact, passenger vans. Mr. Pet�erson was not aware of the e�cact nwnber invealved, but his clien� is coa�ce�ned that they do no� ha�ve what appears ta be the requir�d Specia]. U�e Permit. We suggested, therefore, that they make application �or th�t permit to be processed thxough tYre Planning Commission and Counail as prescribed by ordinance. 23. Ryan, 924-4602 Terry iCingston, of Coldw�ll �anker, and Pat Ryanp repres�nting the Ryan Cor�struc�ion Co�pany, w�re in to discuss the pos�i- bilities of �heir conducting an overali. development of the tax increment areas west of 35W �ind north of trunk Highway 36. � � Office Hours 9 January 29, February 12 and 19, 1986 � Febxuary 21, 1986 Pat Ryan infarmed us that they are now in an "aggressive pos�ure" with respect to development, having nearly �cornpleted the second phase of tYaeir International Center �n downtown Minneapolns. They are, therefore, laoking for a new project area o��er the �ext two to four years. C�aig Waldron, Charles Honahell, and I reviecaed with them various scenarios i,nvalvinq dev�lopment of lands currently designated for tax :i.ncrement, plu� the �aossibility vf including all th� pi�op�rti�es north of th� tracks. Craig produced some approximate num}�ers as r�lates to tax increment potential. We noted the positive aspects of the development, including potential for Class One office buildings and hotels. They are g�ing to review consideration of the possibiliti�s, consid�ring a var3.e�y of scope apti�ons. We anti�ipate meeting wi�h them in �%e near future, to review development pr�spects. . � � 10 198� February , T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS, JANUARY 15, AND JANUARY 22, 1986 1 o First Minnesc�ta, 4_89-8Q41 First Minnesota Federal Savings and Loan (farmerly First Federal and Minnesota Federal) is keeping and expanding its Lexington Avenue lo�ation (north of Larpenteur), and clasing the branch north of Rosedale. Jim Moeller, Duane Myron, Chuck Merta, Dennis Drews, and Alden Morrison, Archite�ts, were in to discuss their proposal to expand the d,rive-�.n faciliti.es at the Lexington Avenue site. They anticipa�e business a�t tl�is site expanding con�iderably, pi�}cing up the slack from the closed site at Rosedale. W�� uggested strongly that �his site is now inadequate, and th�t some of tiaeir em�l�yees ar�e �ei�ng directed to park in th� re�idential stree� to the northwes�. We suggested they acquire the old Kugler proper�y to the west, and contiguous �o theix prQperty. We haci discussed this in the past, suggesti�g tiaat they mak� this move on twa previous occa�ions whe�n we've met ta d3.scuss this expansion prc�posal. We did not revi�:w specifics of the plans they brought with t�em, suggesting that they pursue site expansion fir�t. We ag�ree t�at if the site iWee��Ps��edofbtheeexistinglstructurel�s can be developed an the ratiaer i:han on the sou�h side as currently proposed. 2. Tra��2?4_35,09 Jim Trapp anc� Paul �Telson were in to discuss de�elopment plans �or Jim TrapP's ke@Road andcCounty1Road1C�2at tne north- �aest corn�r of Lang L� Mr. Trapp noted that kae propos�s to remove por�:ions of the building, and constzu�ct a new building contiguous to the tru�k wash. We not�d thelisheddeursuandltolthe�previouse� in getCing conditions �ccomp P clev�lopment approval on �he site sanne years ago. Pgul Nelsen is currently selling new and used garbage trucks at the site, which we r�oted is not allowed in t�hat zoning district. We suggested torade thepsiteat The�developmentec�ns right to substantially upg this site is not coaasistent with the quality in th� area, and one questions whether the adding of outdoor aisplay of neca and used garbage trucks would constitute improved develc�pment of the sitee We da.scouraged Mr. Trapp from proceeding with this approach. . • • � � 2 � Februar 10 1986 Office Hours Y . January 15 and 22, 1986 3. Pope, 291-8894 Bob Pope, David Langefel, Mike Richgels, and Wayne Spelding were in to review some minor adjustments in the FML townhouse development plan at the southeast corner of Trunk Highway 36 and Victoria. They are having some difficulties adjusting the setbacks to provide for the extension of balconies on the second floor of the structures. We reviewed some optional adjustments to provide for the adequate setbacks required. It appears some adjustments in the internal portion of the site can be made, which would not affect contiguous properties. 4. Anderson, 888-3255 John Anderson has the "Jiffy Lube" franchise in the area, and is seeking a site in Roseville. He discussed the possibility of converting the Garden Store in the Rosedale Center to a Jiffy Lube store. We discouraged this approach, sighting the initial concepts under which the Rosedale Center was planned and developed by Dayton-Hudson, in cooperation with the City, in 1969. 5. Fulton, 920-9780 Don Fulton is a realtor, who is attempting to market the 3.13 acre site west of Fulham Pond. This property is owned by Murphy, and has been on the market for some time. Now that Fulham Pond is near completion, this site should be marketable. We discussed developmer�c standards potential as relates to the new bridge crossing, zoning requirements, and anticipated developments in the area. 6. Childs, 484-1390 John Childs was in, representing his Aunt Julie Esteb, who lives at 976 Lovell Avenue. They are seeking a minor variance so as to put an addition on their house. Whereas th� sideyard setback is required to be five feet, they can put: a ten foot addition on their house with a setback sixteen inches less than required. We reviewed procedures for processing a minor variance. 7. WaJ.sh, 338-8799 Ms. Walsh, Peter Hilger, and Gary Nordness, representing Rosewood Corporation, were in to meet regarding their progress in putting together properties in the tax increment district north of Highway 36, east of Hoffmann Electric. They informed us that they have acquired title to all of the land rezoned R-1 (now zoned B-4), and have made attempts to acquire the Hart land and the Glacier Park (Burlington Northern) property north of that. . Of f ice Hours January 15 and 22, 1986 3 � February 10, 1986 , � They have been unsuccessful in acquiring the larger tracts, • but do have options on all of the residences. Costs are in the vicinity of 1.4 times residential value. They indicated their first objective would be to construct a six story office tower, with 80,000 to 100,000 square feet, near the easterly end of the site. For the remainder, they conceive two to three story structures, with office and "high tech" uses. • n We suggested that structures similar to Hoffmann Electric, three stories high, would be appropriate, and that one story structures (typical high tech buildings) would not be approved. They are going to prepare preliminary concept plans. S. Goff, 484-2566 Pat Goff was back to review his ideas relating to the develop- ment of the Roberts site, which is a twelve acre parcel north of the School District s site off Western Avenue. Access to the site can be achieved directly off Western and Owasso Boulevard by combining it with Grauel site to the south. Without access through the Grauel property, the only other access point would be on the east side at a single point near the railroad tracks, which wauld result in a long cul-de-sac, serving the entire twelve acre parcel. We suggested this would be an inappropriate method of providing access, particularly if there is an attempt to build a density anything higher than single family homes. Mr. Goff's proposal was to construct eighty townhouse unand a in eight unit structures. This would require rezoning, redesignation on the Comprehensive Plan to the medium density residential, which is the category that has been applied to the high school site itself. Under the circumstances, we feel that this land can only be developed intelligently Whihhtschoolusitelat suchptimeraslY� as a part of the overall g that land is made available for development. 9. Franke Bill Franke, Bob Davidson, and John Blumentritt, Architect, were in to discuss revSwahnPTrustfproperty s�tedale Corporate Plaza, 1ocated on the They now propose to have siTheselaregallntohbesseparate of which would be the hotel. structures, and the structure at the far northwest corner of the site, which was supposed to be the four story portion of the structure in the intial design, is now proposed to be an office service building. We noted that when each of these buildings now becomes a separate structure, as they now propose, that the buildindoes not Workhwest corner is buried, and the site plan simply 1 � , Office Hours January 15 and 22, 1986 . • • u � 0 February 10, 1986 We suggested, too, that the access to the hotel at the south- east corner of the site is inadequate, traffic from the inter- change having to meander through the parking lot to get to the hotel site. We suggested that they revise the plan completely, and put the hotel at the northeast corner of the site, and that if they are going to have individual structures, (as now proposed) that they must have single depths only, and that these structures should be on the westerly and southwesterly sections of the site. They agreed and, though time is short, felt it appropriate to redesign their site entirely with these criteria in mind. We noted that it is important to maintain the square footage, as originally agreed upon with the City, but that we are lookinq for a plan that will. more adequately assure success and a quality image for this portion of the City. 10. Iverson, 631-3370 Dan iverson owns a residence at the northwest corner of County Road C-2 and Merrill Street. The dimensions on the corner street are almost identical, but legally the frontage is to the south on County Road C-�. He desires to place his house twelve feet from the north line, which would be the side lot line if Merrill Street were the front. This can readily be corrected by handling it as a minor variance, which we suggested he do. 11. Lund, 870-1000 Cliff Lund and his architect, Jim Lammers, were in to discuss the development of a new structure on the west side of Langton Lake, north of County Road C-2. We reviewed the site plan, which conforms to all requirements, and suggested that he dedicate the easterly sixty feet of the property for park purposes. Part of that land is wooded� and has a berm from previous construction. The land now is developed primarily as a parking lot. a The appearance of the property would be enhanced by the development of a new structure, and the dedication of adc�i- tional land will help fill out some of the park land to the east contiguous to Lanqton Lake. We emphasized the need to create an attractive building, inasmuch as there will be park land to the northeast. This development will be handled as a planned unit develop- ment, isasmuch as there will be two parcels on a single parcel of land, with access from the south off County Road C-2. , � , Ofiice Hours January 15 and 22, 1986 � 5 � February 10,1986 12. United Properties Dale Glowa and Boyd Stoeffer represent United Properties, who have developed a considerable number of high quality industrial and office parks in the metropolitan area in th� last twenty-five years. They are looking seriously at the acquisition of the Paper Calmenson property for the purpose of developing a business center similar to what they have been doing in the city of Mendota Heights for the last decade. The site has thirty-two acres, and has a substantial amount of structure on the property which will be very expensive to remove. Demolition could run as high as 2.5 acres, inas- much as there is approximately eighteen acres under roof. Craig Waldron reviewed with them the potential for utilizing tax increment funding to assist in the development of the property. The basic problem is that the existing tax is about $320,000 per year, which would have to be reduced priar to setting up the increment as a base. Ideally the buiY�dings should be demolished first, the lower tax established, and then the increment put into place. Tn any case, they are very interested in pursuing the possibilities, and will continue to work with the Paper Calmenson people in their attempts to neqotiate a reasonable purchase, and will be back to the City regarding ways in which we can work together to achieve th.� desired results. Craig noted that we may be working with taxable bonds and an interest rate of 10-11 perc�nt versus the last bond non- taxable, which went at about 8 percent. We encouraged them to continue to negotiate with the owners, and to come back to the City regarding development possibilities. 13. Linstroth Sandy Linstroth, Chuck Duf resne, Executive Vice-President of Lincoln Deve'lopment Company, and Tom Gerstner, from Korsunsky, Krank, and Erickson Architects, were in to discuss the possible development of the tormer Glendenning truck terminal site. They would propose a shoppi�lg center on this site. We �mphasized the need for a public street to go along the eastern side of the property so as to connect to the new public street being constructed south of the Lido site recently app�oved by the Council. 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Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. Avon St. Bayview Dr. �Beacon St. Belair Cir. ' Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats�iorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. ��larmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:I6 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 . 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,ZQ H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 6:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:lb C-L:16 C,I-! :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernw�od Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N � S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Nerschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. 4,1l,13 �L:12 I�5,7,$,10-12,16,18 J:A9,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 6-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,N:11 E:15 E-F, I :8 G-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 N:6 H:6 G:13-16,28-20 C,0:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:1Q G,I:19 A-D:15-11 C-15 E,N:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:lb-20 L:11 c:is F:18 E,F,N,I:18 B:11,12 C:1Q-13,18 I:12 B4O,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 I ;11-2Q H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,L:12 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake R�d. Loren Rd. lovell Ave. �y�ia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Or. Mackubie� St. Nans�rn St. Mlapl e Lane Naple lane Ct. Marion Rd. t+larion St. Hatilda Cirtle �4atilda St. P9cCarron B1 vd. !1. l�9t�arro� Blvd. S. l�Carrons 5t. ?iidland &rom� Rsf. Hidland Hills Rd. i4idlothian Rd. FOid Oaks Lane � Rd. Mildred Or. Hill�+ood A�re. a+lili�rood St. Mi1tQn St. Minresota ,'tve. P4oundsviea Ave. P�unt Ridge Rd. tlancy Pl a�e t�orthvie►r St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Higriaray 8 Onhard lane O�assa Blvd. S Oa+asso Bl�d. 6� Oxford SC. Parker Aae. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Paiton Rd. Pinev3ew Cz. Prim�rose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circ�e Rac�bi er Court Ran�b7er Rd. Raymond Aae. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N E � Ridgc�aod Rd. Roe�a Av�. Rose Plac� Rose Yista Ct. Fto�edal� Or. Raselaetn Av�. Rose�aood la. � & S Ruggles St� Russell "t. A: i�,is � A-F:3 Jc5 G:I3-16A18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-B:14 C O.J,L:I7 S:I 8:1,7.8,20 B:I� N:3 B-I.t:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:1R-20 is,t.: �8-20 B-D,H,K:11 N:4 J:3 H-I:� J:8 A.6�6 8:7-8,10,13-15 B:2,19 ii,,�i.:14 G:I8-20 J:1T A-D:5 G.�:14 8:20 E:5-8.I1,12,15,18 E:14 A-B:l-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,�C-F.H,J,K:13 I:13-15 8:3�� A-F.N-J:20 A-6:1 K:16 �:1Q B-G,I-J:5 A:5 o:is o: �o A-S:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:ll-13,16,19 E:1.2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,1T J ; 3-4 K:11-13 6:8 �cyan A�a� �:�'=� S�mdhurst �--� Sandy Fiook . Sextant Av�. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sfeel don St _ Sherren St. Siare�rood Cv. b La. Shryer A�ve. Sia�psons S�. Ski�llasan Awe. Sr�l l i ng A��e. Snelling Curve Sneiiing Serv.Dr. �i Snegling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.7.N. 35H S.7.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 5erd. N S.T.N. 35 �erv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Ce-oix St. Step�hens St. Staabridg� kve. Stanbridge St. State Farn Road Stuber Road .Surr�oer St. Tal isr�n Cr�rve Tat� St. Ters�inal Road Terrace Or. �TapF►i 11 Ci �rcl e Transit Av�. Traseth Rd. Yictaria St. Virginia Atie. Yarginia Circle It,:gener Pl��ce Nagner Sx. yalnut St. �Fe�t Per�mr�ter Dr. b�stern Avp. 4�stu+ood � i rcl e pdekeers Roar� 6ihea torr Av�e. �ti'eeel er Rv�e _ Nt�eel er St . Nilder St. �tilliam St. Kiilo+�+ Cir�cle '�illo+r Lan�e �bod�ridge Circle Woadbridge Court iaoodbridge St. Idaodhi 11 O�ri ve {3nodlynn D�rive Ibodruff �ve. J:5-7,9-I3,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 R:17 F:9,10,I2,15,15,18 K:20 I:5 BrD,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,I0-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 R-J:9 E-F:9 6-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; 6-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J : 1 C,F,G,L.16 G,H:2 N:2 s:�-s A:1 H:9 K:16 lC:22 O:IO J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,31,1�;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-ZO 8:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-N:1 G_6 B-K:18 ,3_4 E:20 D:15-15 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 . E:11 E.11 6:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K:18 .� � January 9, 1986 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: OFFICE HOU�S DECEMBER 18, 1985, January 2, and January 8, 1986 1. Ramnariene, 827-8306 Joe Ramnariene was in to discuss potential locations for senior cit�zen housing sites. His developer is looking specifically for possible locations for Chapter 202, Section 8 housing program potentials. We reviewed the various multi-family housing sites available in the City. We discussed with him the nature and sco�� of existing developments, and those recently approved in the City of Ros��ille. � The potential operators interested are ths Walker Home peop�e out of Minneapolis. We encouraged them to cansider the possibilities, though recognizing the limitations for immediate� available si�es. 2. Feltman, �31-7711 Fred Feltman is a realtor looking for a site for a White C�stle Hamburger lacation in Roseville. He wa� in specific�lly to inquire about the possibility �f acquiring the service station a� the northeast corner of County Road B and Snelling. We reviewed with him the cont�mplated changes in right-ofdway for the service road, and the impact of that change on that site� We b�liev� the s�rvice �tatian site itself would not be adequate. W� discussed the possibility of acquisition of the small office building to th� north �s a part of the site. We noted t�a� the typ� af access he desired, directly off County Ro$d H, �ould be dif�icult to �ccommodate, and that traffic considerations could be a significant problem at this intersection. We dfd not �ncouiage hi� puYsuing the site. Frankly, we feel that the �est solutian tor this corner would be the redevelop- m�nt of all three parcels, including the �ar wash, which has � severe access and stacking capacity pro�lems. • � Office Hours December 18, 1985, and January 2 and 8, 1986 2 � January 9, 1986 3, Ericksen 631-5249 was in to Dr. Ericksen, President of Northwestern Coll�ocessing a review the procedures and requirements for ortion of the revised Planned Unit Deosevillet fWe have reviewed w�sedtin � campus in the City ot R lans for changes propo and their architects, concept p the access and egress system at previous meetings. e noted the specific requirements for engineering details W road construction dimensons and related to drainage, indicated on the curbing, more specific data currently ' ed lan. He suggested that he have his archi�ect generali2 p a p.U.D. n ineer meet with us at a sub�eofesubmitting review and e � With the �nten these requirements, in the Spring of 19$6. application to the City 4, Colletti 631-111Manager of Paper Calmenson Steel Company► was �rank Colletti, lans o� Faper Calme�son's owners in to discuss with us the p business at their for gettfng out c�f the steel fabricating o e�ation of Ro�eville site. He indicated that the only P ce today is the Steel Plow B�-ab� Di15pipeopl� Some significan Which currently have office funcP�evious emploYment Was up as high as 1,200. employed. out otential for reuse of the land, and noted � We talked ab � � interest ar�d desix'e to assistof�development ° th the City s and quantity Whose way to upgrade the qualitis ��ilY_oWne� �usiness, site. The StieE�o sellnthe graperty for redevelopment. members desire ron reviewed elements of tax in°implementingther Craig Wald b� �elpful financial pro9x�S that may the redevelopment of the 1a�d• us knc�w � Colletti's principal purpose was �o simply let�ar at the Mr �n��, sa th�t if potential buy�rs apP what is happ City, w� wi 11 be awar� of current objectionsto assist�intthe will be retiring, but has agreed �o �taYoWn,�rs. handli�ng of the prapertY' for the fa►nily we noted t hat we b�lieve thi� to be an velo�ment,sand �Or more intensive oftice nkd�n ��ms�'�¢ aed@velopment rat�Se�h�y encouraged them to thi do not th �n �inding potential uses �O�ures,saseexistuctures He agreed tlnat the struct We al a�e' otential in terms of market need. r�pres�nt a high p the redevelop�ent and agreec� that the besWi�hYthelPossible�exception of th� masonry r�use of the 1.ar�d, �nd of the site. otfi,ce structure on the northerly � Office Hours December 18, 1985 and .. January 2 and 8, 1986 • 3 • January 9, 1986 5. Larson 884-3029 John Larson was in with a proposed land division for his 160 foot lot fronting on Rosewaod. Lots in the area vary from 100 to 110 £eet, and the lots proposed would be 75 and 85 feet in frontage. These lots are out of scale with the area but, perhaps, rep�esent more reasonable use than leaving the 160 foot lot. The larger lot was left originally so as to accommodate natural surface drainage �hrough the area, which has since been modified through the deveJ.opment of new storm sewers. We encouraged him to review this proposa�. with, hi� neighbors; some of whom may feel the lot is out of scale with tlae larger lots in the irrunediate �eighborhood. 6. Gravender 332-3944 John Gravender, architect w�.th H�ammel, Green and Abrahamson� was in �o r�vi�w the Planned Unit Development requirem�nts for the pr�liminary plans they �Srepared for filorth�restern College. Cl�arlie H�nch�l� ass�.sted us in describinq �he type and extent of engineering needed for the drsinage solution� We rev�ewed procedures, requirem�nt� and timing for submission of the PUD. we glso r�viewed th� px�viously � approved PUD as an �xarnpl� for such a submission. One of th� probYe�ns here i� �hat th�* new s�ructurQ prop�os�d t an athletic buildingr) is being designed b� a di�f�r�n� archit�ctural £irm, so there is the m�tter of �coordinatian of pres�t�ta�ic�n a� this �lement of th� plan. W� alsa ^^tieci the need �or a writt�n t�xt dc�s�cribing ccll�ge� qrowth, sca1� of functions w�thin thQ plan, parking accommodati.ons, attenda�c� pot�nti$l, �tc. �h�y will b� back n�xt month, hopQfully ready f4r subm�.ssion for a Sp�cial Us� Permit for a P18nn�d Unit Developmen�. 7. Hardy1 �84-202J Dorothy Hard,y and her assi�tant, 1Norma .7ohnsor�, w@�Q in �c� revi�w �h� progr�ss of th�ir new o�fic� buiidine� undor cons�ruction at the southwest coxnc�r of Oakcros� and Prio� Avenues. Th�ey ��pr�ss�d �heir desir� to rEqu�st a variance not �o build the sid�s��lks r�quired on the two sti�eet frontag�s. zeviewed the pros and cons of this act�.�n, with th� r�sult th,at they have d�eided to build th� sidewalks as r�quireti, not seek the varianc�. � we and • � � Office Hours December 18, 1985 January 2 and 8, and 1986 � Januar 9 1986 Y � Charlie Honchell assisted us in reviewing the sidewalk location, and we agreed that the walk could be bent around an existing fire hydrant so as to save the cost of moving the hydrant (some $3,000). We suggested the walk be moved within their property and that, in fact, the entire walk could be moved partially onto their property if they were to offer �s an easement. This would allow for the grass strip an the boulevard to be wider than four f�et, which appeared to be an advantage to the owners. Craig Waldron noted that some tax inarement funds were ear- marked for sidea�a�.k construction. W� suggested the� get � figure for the cost of the sidewalk and bring this back to Craig, who woul�i then adr�ise them further regarciing the process for portions of this cost to be picked up under �h� previously propo$�d agr�ement. These peopl� are sincerely dedicat�d to building a fine structure in R�seville, althaug�h they have na ten�r�ts �t th� moment. �hQy hav@ bo�n �xtremely cooperative and helpful through the �ntire process of pr�paring this structure for approval and con�struction. 8. Michae�. �AS-5060 Ja#� M chael and �ack eodirtsch�r awn a company called Impulsc CORC�pC�, which is a df�stributar o� an autom�terl ��hted si�gn system thcy pr�poso to install on +�h� outsid� of a n�c� trave�l �g�ney, loeatQci in th� Lexington Plaza Shopping Cen�c�r 8e �he northeast co�n�r of Larpcnt�ur and L�xing�o� Avenue�. '�his si�n �yst�m is �imilar to the time and t�mFerature siq►ns, �nd is curr�nt�y se�n most fr�9u�nt1X in the i�t�r�.ors o� k�a�}c� and s�vings and loa� institutions. Qur si�gr� 4rdinanc� �rohiblts a"flashing sign" and, �h�refore, pe��nis�ion �o construct this �ign in Rosavill� would ��q�ir� � variancQ, �h�y ar� cortain that th� own�r o� th� stor� involvQd is going to proceed with in�tallation. If this is the cas�� they w�ll be back to �pply fo� th� appropxi�� arienc�. 9. Fost �ffica 293-329� M chae� J, Sa�nchelli, Roseville Po�t a;Efic� Manager, and K�ith Baugie, t6�1-223Q} Area Manager for tihe Post Office out of St. P�ul, were in to d�.scu�s a pro�os$1 to construct a nQw post o�'#icE in Ro��:vill�. Appraximate constxuction date is January, 1987. �ricar to that tim�, additional. stud3es will b� dane �s to the exact type of facility, location, costs, etc. � Office Hours December 18, 1985 .• January 2 and 8, • and 1986 5 • January 9, 1986 Approximate needs include a 20,000 square foot building on a site of approximately two and one-half acres. The original post office was built in 1966, and is about one-half the size adequate. The existing site lacks adequate parking, and has no indoor storage for vehicles, which will be included in the new �'acility. The objective is to stay near the current site. Mike Flor will be .in charge of the analysis for location and acquisition of real estate. They note that the decision is firm to retain the post office in Roseville, and that their is for structures over 14,000 square feet to be owned�by the post office service rather than leased, as is the case with the cu�rent post otfice in Roseville. There is a slim possibility that they could the existing building to tear down and buildgatlargerWntWo of story building. We discouraged this a because of the obvious inadequacy of p�roach, however, storage areas. Parking ar�d vehicular They are currently leasing twenty-two spaces from the Profes- sional Building to the north for office employees. We were � somewhat surprised at this, based on the apparent shortage of parking on the part of the Professional Building occupants in the past. � We discussed the possibility of acquisition of �he deep, large single family lots directly south of the �urial Vault factory. The houses between the library and �he Vault factory appear to occupy approximat�ly four and one-half acres. Tt is conceiva}�le that the library may wish to expand as well. We also discussed the possibility of incorporating a new post office on the Har Mar site. This site, at greater �listance, was reviwed, though that was not the purpose of this meeting. They are going to have Mike F�+�r together with us to review potential sites, and otheraelements of the post affice expansion We noted the City's desire topassistlinnreachingrafsuccess solution, and that the City is vitally interes�ed in maintainin the facility within the� City. They noted that under no g circuanstances would the post offic� be moved out ot the City of Roseville. 1Q. Nelson, 636-4246 PauZ Nelson is a distrik�utor Truc}�s, and proposes to sell Jim Trapp's C1eanCo site at Road C-2 and Partridge Road. for Heil Rear Loading new and used trucks at the northwest cornex of Garbage County � office Hours December 18, 1985 and January 2 and 8, 1986 • 0 •Januar 9 y , 1986 Mr. Trapp had informed him that this was a permitted use in the City. Actually, it is a use requiring a Special Use Permit. We expressed our concerns regarding the completion of previous conditions rela�ting to Special Use Permits issued to Mr. Trapp on the C1eanCo site. We reviewed application requirements and procedures, and suggested that the owner review with us these requirements in the perspective of the new proposal, and its relationship to the entire site. 11. Peterson, 884-3029 Harold Peterson, of Jim Hill Engineering Associates, was in to review the proposed replatting of two lots at the south- east corner of Minnesota and Capi.tol View. These are two 80 foot lots, with a depth of 200 feet, wherein a third lot is proposed to be developed, utilizing the r�ar of the two existing lots fronting on Minnesota Street. Thus, there would be created a new lot with 80 feet of frontage, fronting toward the west �n Capitol V.iew. We reviewed pxocedures and requirements (a plat in this case) preliminary to their tiling an application within the next few weeks. � � ol ' I n NI �3 20 n Tx x[ � �. co. eo. ' �ALMY A a � i �* �+ /� � 3000 __ '/ �> �,+~/� 4� 5�� g mI 7 �I / ' � �LO��11� \ I ��/ U �� CO. Rp. 'D� . r1 �'1 � rl ('11—^ �-� !� n� _ F ; , � ;400 .ce��..� G �' 2P�0 .I H �, � ziao CO ' .1 t' 20�0 :i .i .I � �,, 1980 '�1 v � 8� 9�� 10 � I I yl ' 12 -'i I pE 14 � 15 � 16 �` 17 pi 18 � 19 « I 20 � / ��(�� I.�. 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J:5 �" "�"""" �" -"� St. D,J,L:17 Sherren St. H:11-15 Fairview Ave. A-J:6 Manson St. B:1 Shorewood Cv. & La. A•7 Fairways Lane I:2 Maple Lane ,�,8,20 Shryer Ave_ J:5-7,10-14,16,17 Farrington Ave. I:19 �ane t 6:19 ; Simpsons Si. A,B:9-10;F,J:9 Farrington CT. A:19 � � 3 � Skillman Av� J:5,6,10-12,1b,20;I:7 Farrington St. 6-D,H,L:19 � f�laarion St. ,:..- �.....� 20 Sneliing A��2. A-J:9 Farrington Circle F:19 Matilda Circle F:19 Snelli C�u rve E-F:9 Fernwood Ave. I-L:11 ��tatilda St. B-O,F,G:19 � S�el g�e'►'v.Dr. W B-D:8 Fernwood St. C-E,H:11 McCarron Blvd. N. J:18-20 ��► ��1 'ng�'S�r3.Dr. E A-D:9 Fisk St. E:15 McCarron Blvd. S. K,L:18-20 �_ �!�""3GAt ili'flr� G:18 Fry St. E-F,I:8 t4cCarrons St. B-D,N,K:11 S.'}�.H. A-B:4; G-H:1-4 Fulham St. G-J:2 hlidland Grove Rd. H:4 S.T.H. 3b G-H:1-20 Galtier Circle F:20 Midland Hills Rd. J:3 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N G-2-4 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Midlothian Rd. H-I:8 S.T.N_ 36 Serv. S H:3-4,7,8,17 Garden Ave. K:11 12 Mid Oaks Lane B�Rd. J;8 . -� S.7.N 280 H-J: 1 Giesman St. I-J:19 Mildred Dr. A R6 � t'�s St. Albans St. C,F,G,L:16 Glenhill Road A:10 �fillwood Ave. `� ��-tl,�0 3�1 St. Croix G,H:2 Glenwood Ave. K:17,18 Millaood St. 6:1,19 � St. Stephens St. H:2 Gluek Lane H:6 Fiilton St. A,N,:14 Stanb�idge Qve. B:7-8 Gluek Lane N& S H:6 Minresota ,'�-re. G:18-20 StanbricigQ St. A•1 Grandview Ave. G:13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. J:17 State Farns Road N:9 Griggs St. C,0:12 hk�unt Ridge Rd. A-D:5 Stuber Road K:16 Grotto St. E-H-1.,5w.� Nancy Place G,H:14 .Surm�er St. K:12 Haddington Ra��- .�7-�['�-� � Northview St. 6:20 Talisman Curve D:10 Hamline Ave. .,---q..,. A- •_`.".,,,� � Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Tatu.m St. J:6 Hand Ave. G,I:19 Oakcrest Lane E:19 7erminal Road F:1-3 Heinel Dr. A-D:15-17 Old H�ghway 8 A-B:1-2 Terrace Dr. C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 Heinel Circle C-16 � rcbard Lane C:14 Tophill Circie G:18 Herschel Ave. E,H:7 • ,,� as�e`�lvd. S A-C:16-20 Transit Ab� F:9-14,16-20 Herschel St. J:7 i-�+ �%..1� • asso .$1 vd. W A-8:15-16 Troseth Rd. B:1-2 Highcrest Road A,B,G,H:r --• O�tfom�St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Victoria St. A-L:14 Hilltop Ave. K-17 Parker Ave. � I:13-15 Virginia Ave. ��U-r19 �---�� Holton St. F:10 Partridge Rd. 6:3-4 Virginia Circle � 19,_ �> . , Huron Ave. K:11 Pascal St. A-F,H-J:10 WagenEr� -sc�� ,;�' h. k;8(1..� # i ._ Huron St. C-0:11 Patton Rd. A-B:1 Wagne' �� `*�+�f `'' - a. K:1*I- 1 1 9'` ' f H ythe St. J:4 Pineview Ct. K:16 Walnui St. � E=H. 3� Iona Circle C:lc3 Primrose Curve D:10 .,West Per�mete,r�ilr. G:6 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. B-G,I-J-S��e, ...�., .— �stern Ave. B-K:1S i�r-+�:.�.��} s twoo d C i rc 1 e J: 4 Ione St. L:I1 Prior Circle A:5 �� Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court D:18 a-- �- -�--� ewers Road E•20 Irene Court F:18 Rambler Rd. D:10 �lheaton Ave. D:15-16 Irene St. E,F,H,I:18 Raymond Ave. A-6:4 Wheeler Ave. E,F:7 Josephine Rd. 6:11,12 Rice St. A-L:20 Wheeler St. A,B,I,J:7 J ve. � �'6•10-13,18 Ridgewood La. N b S J:8 Wilder �t. A,I:5 �I�12 Ridgewood Rd. A:9 Willia� St. I,J:19 n�•-St.�..._,,...,,� D,J,L.:17 Roma Ade. L:11-13,16,19 4lillow Circle E:11 Lake St. J:�2- Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 Willow Lane E:11 Lakeview Ave. C,D � Rose Vista Ct. L:11 Woodbridge Circle G:20 Larpenteur Ave. 1;11-20 Rosedale Dr. J:3 Woodbridge Court L:20 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. J:2-14 17 r' St -G# t ,� �`� Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Rosewood La. N& S J:3-4 � i� �-�:�1,' � �� i Lindy Ave. I,L:12 gles St. K:11-13 ood ' 0;13;-i4;2�;�6+ � �c � ' 'Ru�sel l Ct. 8:8 �¢� � �Q�t��.�• ��"�+ �*� .�� s �v c� e . r: =��"�"""" INN4VATIVE . p. = � ° � �VII CR O GRAP . HICS . 4D . D U E TO TI� E PC�C� I� �� N l� I T I U I� C�� THE f�RE��=ED�N� �� U !�f ENT 1I� E CAf� �J C�i Pf�tt�G�iC� /-��i A�C��i'��L� I�lI i�R � F I L M I MA(a �.� .� . � , December 16, 1985 � : TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: OFFICE HOURS NOVEMBER 20 - DECEMBER 11, 1985 1. Jakubowski, 482-9955 Stan Jakubowski has a lot on the southeast shore of Lake Owasso, and proposes to put an addition on his home, utilizing the services of Roger Pastwa. Mr. Jakubowski will require a minor variance for the addition of his garage, which appears perfectly appropriate under the circumstances of his lot configuration and existing structure. 2. Weiner, 739-8033 Tom Weiner is an appraiser charged with appraising the property, for estate purposes, at the northwest corner of Western and Elmer Street. This property is a 1.43 acre site, with an existing residence near the middle. Utilizing the configuration of the lot, it's ar�a, and the placem�nt of the existing home, it appears reasonable to appraise the property based on its ultimate division of thre� buildable single f amily lo�s, one of which would be occupied � by the existing home. The value of land �.s, of course, based on what you can do with it, Thus, in this case, a reasanable indication of �he number of possible lots that could be platted in the future is a key ingredient of the appraisal va�ue. 3. Wilson, 779-0221 Gene W�.lson, r�alto� with Grant R�alty Company, and A1 Hilderman (same company) were in to discuss the possible development of the old Owasso school sit� on the southwest shore of Lake Owasso. They are explaring the possibility of develaping this site for a senior c�tizen's rental facility. The site appraximates 9.12 acres, and was initially purch�sed f rom the sGhool district by the owner of the nursing I�ome across Victoria to the west. we noted that such a d�velopment would require rezoning, but the senior citizen's conce�t for tYae use of the land has be�n discussed with Mro Schuster a number of times over the past ten years or so. We emphasized the importance of quality desic�n, and commun�ication with single family homeowners in the lake shore area. 4. Northwestern Colle,ge Don Erickson, Pres3.dent of Northwest�rn Cc�llege, was in with �len Feterson, Superintendent of Engineerinc�, and Warren Fa11, Superintendent of Campus Facilities, to review their � revis�d PUD concept plan for the Roseville area of the campus. . .� L� � � Of f ice Ho � urs November 20 - December 11, 1985 2 � December 16, 1985 The plan has been revised, as we suggested in our previous meetings, to include a roadway south of the new proposed athletic building. We suggested further revisions to include a parking facility in the front of the building (near the main entrance), and additional parking along the roadway south of the building. Parking in front of the bui:Lding should include a turnaround and drop off. Currently there is no drop off or parking facility contiguous to the main front entrance. We noted, too, campus is of a of the parking that approach. that practically all of the parking on the strip lineal layout. We suggested that some might be more efficiently laid out not using They are going to do additional revisions, with the objective ot ultimately submitting �the revised plan for processing to the Planning Commission and Council as a revised plan unit development. 5. Ros�dale Chevrolet, 337-1543 �'redrick T. Ro�enblatt, an attorney, was in to discuss tl�e techniques and prospects for vacation of that portian of County Road C-2 immediately west af 35W. We had discussed this previously with xepresentatives of Rosedale Chevrolet, noting the acquistion rights acquired by MNDOT in anticipa�tion of a cros�over a� 35W at one point m$ny years ago. tve noted the City's ir�terest in r�taining certain easements, but the City's interest in potentially retu�ning the right- of-�way to the taxrolls� We suc�gested they start the process with MNDOT, in�smuch as current law requires them to convey the land at valu�, bas�d on legislative actian �s of about �wa years aga. 6. Han�en, 338-8056 John Hansen was in to discuss a patential single family building lot on L�ake owass�, twc� lo ts nort h of the marina� on Lake Owasso (snuthwesterly shorey. This lot is shallow, and ba�ed on our previous advi.ce, he ha� obtained a survey of the praperty. It app�ars tnat the lot ma� be builciabl.e, but will require� variances. we suggest�d that he se�k a user og th+� lot, and that a speci€ic development prop�sal b� presented to �he Plannir�g Commission and Council for processing under the shoreline zoning ordinance. The lot immediately to �he �north, with similar dimensions, is developed. W� suggested that us�.ng that lot as develapment criteria may be appropriate. � � • ' Of f ice Hours � 3 November 10 - December 11, 1985 e� � � � December 16, 1985 7. Opus, 936-4566 Kevin Coakley, representing the Opus Corporation, was �n to review industrial and commercial development activity in Roseville. Mr. Coakley is a recent employee of Opus, and has been assigned to evaluate potential development in the north- easterly suburbs. We reviewed the tax increment program, recently approved, and pending development. We encouraged them to consider development of various properties we discussed, with ^mphasis on the tax increment properties on the west side of Highway 35W. We encc�uraged Mr. Coakley to keep in touch with the City as deaelopments proceed. 8. Qman, 854-2252 william R. Oman is with P.D.I. Company, currently locat�d in a rental building in Ros�ville. He is laoking for a two acre site, or an 21,000 square foot building, to conduct their solv�nts processing operations. We reviewed PotentiaY sites, of which th�re are v�ry f�w available �t that scal�, for develogm�nt or r�cievelopment at this tim�. 9. VanHorn eruce varHorn and �ohn Lily wer� ,in r�prese;ntinq a cash �nd carry whol�s�l� stor� conc�pt known as '"priGe �av�rs'". Th�.s is a m�mbexship discaunt stor� op�raCion, currently d�v�lop�d i.n Salt I,ake Cit�r, �nd ar@ looking for sites sround the country for �xpansian. This system �s a�n�d by th� Kroger Com�any out of C3.ncinnati, ahio, who �1so own� �the �up�r-X �7rugstores. �h� sCor� con�c�pt in�olves app,roxima��ly � 100,00Q square foat bui.4ding se11,�nQ EaQds, soft �ood�, anc� hard goad� at a�pre�ximat�ly fi�+� p�rc�nt �bav� wholesai� pri�� on � S25 year m�mb�rship bas�s. M�mb�r�ship is suppos�d�y comf�in�d busines� groups at about � nin� to �wr�lve pere�nt m��k�sp. Ti��y ha;ve approximately 4,�00 items, wich em�ahasis on nam@ brands w�,th an int�nt to turn thEir. products t�,r�lv� tim�s yegr. It is this hic�h turnav�r that apparently, in ti�eir opinion, giv�s �h�m thc ahility to sel�. a� 8 lowe� price. p�r t� p�r Th�y a�re looking �or a site in Rosevill�, and are con�id�ring t�e norti��rly area of the Spac� Center site, which i$ west�rl�r �€ rt�� n�w L.�do �afe site. �ve �xpiained our concerns regarding the provision for public acc�ss f r.•or� Sne,lling Avenu�, and the problem of Space Cen�er not rel@a��:a.�ig th� �asem�nt through the Lieio site. We suggested ther� might be considerab�E concern �1ith traffic for such a fa�cility at that �.ocation, and suggested that they consider other possibl� locations. ` � . ' Of f ice Hours November 20 - December 11, 1985 �! December 16, 1985 •� We noted that if they are to build in Roseville, there would be emphasis upon a quality building, perhaps similar to that which was constructed in brick in Eden Prairie at the discount center west of 994. They were accompanied by Charlie Pheiffer, a local realtor with the Gonyea Company. � � la. Anderson, 4g4-2397 Stuart Anderson has a home at 390 Rambler Court, at the southwest corner of Western and Randolph Court. He proposes to add a garage on his house, and was seekiflg a mi�or variance inasmuch as it wou�.d bhe2culede-sacmbeingWhiserly lot line. We noted that with in face, the side yard, front, that the west lot line is, �nd thus no varisnce would be r�quirede 11. Elfstra�n, 493-g381 Ca�hle�n and Sc�tt Elf�trom �ive at �28 County have a 120.32 foot lot frontinq on Count� Roar! �►�sterly of t$�ruct��nn�w�hom��for them��ves ].�nd, and con w�sterly h�l� of the proPe��Y• Rosd C. Th�y C, just narth- divido th� on �tne w� r�vi.ew�d lot etivision procc��°in�the�noar��u�e. ��eY �i13. lik�ly ap�ly for � lot spl sugqes�ed �hey r@vi�w th�ix P��as�r�oy ��awingsu8in�ad �� or�ers�, and su�m�t �3�e ap�ropr tion to p�Qli�inar� �lan�. �o� e�rQ �°e�sidc�n�� thQy p�o�se �� con��Uc� �on �the propc��t�. 12. 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Franke, 636-6400 Bill Franke, Attorney; Jim Theusch, Architect; Rob Davidson and Tom Zumwald from JLN Development Company, came in to discuss a revision to their plans for the Swahn Trust property, substituting approximately 62,000 square feet of office surface space in three structures originally planned for two story office buildings. One two-story office building would be retained, plus the original four-story office structure, producing a total square footage of 157,620 square feet. The proposal adds approximately a 100 room, four-story hotel at the southeast corner of the site, where we originally proposed such use in the tax increment land plan. No specific hotel is proposed at this time, thus the 100 rooms and functions to be included are approximate. That effect on the total investment is a reduction from �18 million to approximately $19.5 million, of which $3 million is in the hotel. Bill Franke is working closely with Craig wtaldron on the ta�t increment fiscal program, attempting to make this program work, complicated by high land value and high soil correction costs. The revised site plans will be ready just before the Planning Commission hearing, and wi11 not be in final form due to the last minute change�. Detailed handling of th� access to the office/service buildings, and the specific plans for the hotel will come later. Thus, any approval should be subject to fina� staff review of site plans, enineering, grading, and landscapinc�. 2. Northwestern Collecxe, 651-5100 Sometime ago, we had advised representatives of Northwes�ern College to hire competent, professional advice to prepare a better overall plan for the campus. One of th� firms we suggested (at their request) was Hammel, Green, and Abrahamson, which tirm was hired, and came in with representatives of the College to discuss preliminary projected plans for the campus. Regresentativ�s of F�GA were: John �rabencier and Jan Heinig (phone-332-3994). Representatives of the College included: Warren Fall, Paul J, Bentman, Glenn Peterson, and Donald Erickson. � � � • Of f ice Hours October 30, November 6 and 13, 1985 Page 2 The College currently has 975 students and 225 staff and taculty (part and full time). Tx.ere are 739 students living on campus in dormitories with 240 rooms, with normally three per room. On-campus housing includes eleven apartments accommodating 88 students. One-third of the students are from the Metropolitan Area, with the remainder coming from thirty-five states and twelve foreign countries. The plan shows substantial changes, principally in the roadway access and eg�ress routes, and the location of a new sports complex building. The main entrance is moved westerly from the southeast corner of the site, and the separate one- way exist further to the west becomes a service access to the sports complex and parking. We questioned the location of the entrance to the sports building, which is on the opposite side of the parking area to serve the structure. The plan includes an additional dormitory building, as did previous plans, though this building is now located further from the single family residences east of the campus (in Roseville). In general, the plan contained many good element�. We suggested connecting the sports building service road and parking area �o the main access road, to provide better egress circulation for crowds, and safer fire vehicle access. The�r are going to consider our suggestions, and get back for further review. Ultimately, the revised plan will be processed as a planned unit development prior to construction of aay additional elements in the Roseville portion of the campus. 3. Galliker, 641-0612 Barb Galliker runs a tanning studio down on Larpenteur Avenue, and was back to review additional signage for her business. She wants to construct a second pylon. We suggested that she work with the owner of the building to allocate appropriate signage within the pylon that exists on the north side of Larpenteur. We suggested there is no case for hardship, and if the owner does not provide her signage as promised in the lease, she should consult an attorney, and keep the City aut of it. 4. Ternes, 633-2834 Gretchen Ternes proposes to build an office and graphic arts production equipment manufacturing building at the southwest corner ot Terminal Road and Fulham Street contigu�us to (east side) Fulham Pond �now under construction. She was in with her architect, Rob Nierengraten, to review the site plan and structure. • Office Hours � October 30, November 6 and 13, 1985 Page 3 � The building would have 8,600 square feet, with 1,200 square feet of office and 7,400 square feet of manufacturing. Seventeen parking spaces are proposed. We discussed building materials, emphasizing quality and continuity of materials on all four sides. The building would be planned for expansion to the south. The site is part of the Tax Increment District, and we were emphasi_zing and suggesting that she build the building larger, inasmuch as the site can accommodate more. This is the lady who originally proposed to acquire all the houses on the east side of the pond, but abandoned that approach, noting that some of the owners appeared not to be able to decide to sell. 5. Hoppel, 484-6429 Roger Hoppel lives at 2570 Dunlap, and was concerned about the height of the structures to be constructed to the east, part of the two structure multi-family housing project south of the mobile home court. We reviewed the site plans approved, and suggested that he contact the }auilder regarding substitution of plant material (he'd like coniferus trees). We r�ot�d any changes in the plant material and/or location sho�ald be re�iewed ultimately with the City, noting we would not object to changes that might mitigate impact on the sing.le family residential area to the west. 6. Katoski, 483-9767 • Richard Katoski, Broker, and Jim Casey, owner, were in to discuss the ultimate development of Casey's 3.2 acre parcels north of Victoria, near its intersection with Roselawn. �e discussed optional methods of developing the land, consisting of two parcels; one of which has frontage on a private easement, the other which is contiguous to the Zittel property to the west. The Casey property now has, sewer having been extended easterly through the Zittel property this past year. Methods of dev�lopment may include a PUD, and possibly the movement of the existing family house to a separate existing lot. We suggested the density should remain the same, and that whatever he proposes should be reviewed with the City and contiguous land owners prior to formal application. 7. Ba_rbeau, 871-5615 Tom Barbeau proposes to �dd an addition to Robert Hoglund's hous� at 1857 West Roselawn. He proposes a five foot sideyard setback (allowed on this lot) which would, however, appear to extend one foot into a six foot drainage easement on the wes� side of the lot. Though this easemer�t appears on the County section maps, it does not appear on the original plat, nor does the City have a record of its existence. CJ � � � C� Office Hours October 30, November 6 and 13, 1985 i Page 4 We suggested to Mr. Barbeau that he or the owner check the tract index at the Registrar of Deeds office to determine whether such an easement is on record, and to whom. If it is a private easement, they may be able to adjust it with the private parties. If it is a City easement, they could request it be vacated if it is determined it is no longer needed, or request a one foot intrusion if that is practical. The expansion would extend a twelve foot single car garage to a twenty-two foot double garage. The footage is critical in this case because of the fireplace extending into the �arage space, substantially reducing its effective width. 8. Michaels, 636-3634 Don Michaels proposes an expansion for a land owner at 975 Woodhill (northeast corner of Woodhill and Lakeview A��enue). A variance is proposed to the setback on Lakeview, which is a forty-three foot right-of-way width. Reviewing the whole question of Lakeview's width to the north with the Engineering staf�, Mr. Honchell concludes that an additional seven feet of right-of-way dedication would be reasonable, which we suggested to Mr. Michaels should be dedicated at the time of the request for variance. Mr. Michaels thought this would be a reasonable solution, and will proceed with that objective in mind. It appears that a full �ixty foot right-of-way �idth for Lakeview will be impractical inasmuch as, about ten years ago, three lots were platted to the north, and home� constructed so as to make the sixty foot width impractical. Over a period of time, achievement of a fifty foot right-oi- way width for the full length of Lak�view may be possible, 9. Hoffman, 6��-0444 �ohn and Carol Hoffman own a residence on a 160 foat lot at 2228 Rosewood, and live at 2211 Rasewood in the immediate vicinity. They propose to divide the 160 foot lot into two lots, with the easterly portion being 85 fee� (containing existing house), and the remaining westerly portion to be 75 feet. They had attempted ta purchase some land from the contiguous lot to the west, which is very large. �owever, that owner chaoses not to sell any additional property £�r �his purpose. We suqgested they apply for a lot division, and that they review the proposal with the contiguous neighbors prior to application. 10. Bxown, 482-8513 Mike Brown came in �o discuss his objective to set up a used car sales operation at 1944 County Road C. He claims all the used cars would be stored inside, and would be sold primarily to dealers. � � l�J � Office Hours October 30, November 6 and 13, 1985 Page 5 We questioned the practi.cality of such an arrangement, noting that normally used cars stored for sale are outside. We noted that used cars in Roseville are allowed only ancill.ary to new car agency sales, except in the case of leasing operations where their own leased cars are for sale. We suggested that changing the ordinance to provide for a used car lot would be time consuming, and not necessarily successful. He decided he would look for space elsewhere, inasmuch as he must make a decision soon. 11. Dahlberq I spoke to Paul Dahlberg and Tom Erlich by phone, advising them that Children's Palace could apply for a temporary sign announcing their opening, suggesting that the temporary sign be located where the proposed pylon will be ultimately on Fairview Avenue. We suggested they prepare a drawi�q illustratinq the sign proposal, and submit it to the Building Inspector. Tom indicated they are rethinking their pylon location. A total of three are allowed for the center, anyone of which must be thirty feet back from the public right-of-way, either on Fairview or County Road B-2. 12. Woodlaridge Linda Fisher discuss the which will rezoning to development. proposed. and a representative from Woodbridge were in to grocess for review of the Woodbridge proposal, include an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan, B-9, and a Special Use Permit for plaflned unit The plan rem$ins hasically as pr�aiously Charlie Honckaell expressed his concern about right-of-way width for the "spine" roadway system. We talked about the roadway width to be thirty-�ix feet, with adequate r�oom in �he boulevard for snow storage. Some adjus�ments wi.11 be �nad� to parts of the road to provide ad�quate space for snow storage and uti].ities. We also discusseci the 5ix foot sidewalk system, and determination of staging of development. They not�d that there are still three holdouts: McKee, Thompson, and H�ings. We als� discussed timing of th� EAW to be prepared by �hem, and that they will be ha�ring a neighborhood meeting prior to the Council Meeting of Novemk�er 18. In answer to our inquiry, they pointed out that th�y are paying f rom 1.5 to tw�o times the appraised value for residential properties. � LJ C� Office Hours October 30, November 6 and 13, 1985 Page 6 13. Finneman, 780-1948 Mark Finneman, Architect, was in with Mark Casci, owners of a portion of the old Ashbach Construction site south of County Road C. Buildings on the site were done in 1955, with an addition in 1958. There are 2.9 acres of land. They propose to build 50,000 square feet of mini-storage facility on the property. We discussed the preliminary site plan for the development, roadway widths, relationship to existing buildinqs, building materials, and parking and setback requirements. Approximately 2,900 square feet of office will be retained on the site. We suggested the use of brick in the buildings and landscaping portions of the site. This application would be processed as a PUD, inasmuch as there are multiplicity of principal structures on the site. 14. Lindgren, 635-Z339, John Lindgren is �xpanding his home on Lake very detailed and good plans have been expansion conforms in all res�ects to �the ordinance, and can be processe�l directly to development approval. Ow�sso, for which prepared. T'he shoreline zoning the Council for 15. Lund Cliff Lund was i.n to talk abaut development of a small paxcel af land thati i,s or� the west side of Langton Lake, north of the office/warehouse building they own nn th� west sic�� of the lake. They hsve dedicated one hundred ieet of property contic�uous to the lake as par� of this d�:veTapment. we talked abo�t op�ional ways� of handlinq th�e land, �uggesting that emphasis be placed on office, fnasmuch as that it is contiquous to portions of the p$rk land on the west side of the lake. He will have preliminar� drawiag prep�red� which will be reviewed by the staff. 16. Vicome 9�4-7135 Edward Hehl and M�chael Crain repr�asent the Vicam Corngan�, whi�h is a business telephone sys�ems companye They have a contract with the Mounds View Scho41 District to connect five pxincip�al �chaal struc�all�toweradiif�placedn�on �theh schaol require a 175 foot , district offic�� site at Hamline and Lydia. Our orc3inanc� allows aeri�l� �c� be exempt from hei�ht regulations unle�se co�unityiimpac�Pe�Werin£ormed�ti�� Vicom there may be adv� people that this would be the case with this proposaJ.. � + Office Hours October 30, November 6 and 13, 1985 Page 7 � We suggested that such a tall tower in this single family area would be a severe problem, and that they consider placing the structure on one of the larger high school sites, which normally are up to fifty acres, rath�r than on the small school district office site in Roseville. We suggested that a smaller antenna could be placed on the property in an appropriate manner, functioning as a relay to a taller facility outside of the City. We suggested they cansider putting the principal antenna on one of the Shoreview towers which are, in fact, within the geographical area proposed to b� coverea by the system. 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Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsvrorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Diorrne St. _ H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 _ K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 ' A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:i-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-! :11 E-N:I1 L:19 ' �2,13 Oraper Ave. Oraper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreer� Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farringtan Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernr�ood Ave. Fernrrood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Gal tie�- St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N b S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington �toad Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Neinel Or. Neinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcre�t Road Fiilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron SL. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene 5�. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Plate Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview pve. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lex�n Ave. Li e. 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J.�S l�ia�r�d Qx'. �.�:6 P�iilm� A�. �:7-�,bC.13-&� �Bilir�oc�id SC. �:�„69 Mi 1 ton Sc 9 �.lH. :�41 N6inrNtsmft� �t�, C: ��-20 �ounti��mfi�ir A��. .�: D 7 �art�t R#�� td. �-0:5 �aancy �lace �,a�: i� d6�rih�rt�o �t. �:cf! 4aktresi �v�. E:�-�.Di,I2,15.1& Q�k��rest tdrFe �: �� v�� ?�igh 1 � ,�-�: i-2 Or+th�rti :,�rr+� C: E4 O�wssc� ��ord. � �4-C.i�-20 �is�� 61r�d. b0 �-�:�5-16 Axfiard 5r. �R�C-iF,N1�J,�:l� P'��ic�r A�m�. t: Y�-i�s P�rtridg� Rc9. �:�-4 Pasca9 ��,. l4-F.61-J:10 Patt�r� �d. 14-�:1 Pitt�vi�w Cc. �:16 P�ri�cvx� Curae O:IQ Prior ��re. �-G,Y-J:5 prior Cirt1� A:5 R��bl�r Court Q:l� Ra�bler �d. 0:10 Ra�+ond Are. A-B:� Ricc St. a�l.:20 Ridge+�o�d La. � � S J:E R�dge+� Rd. A:9 J�oa�a A+re. L �� l3 � 16.19 Rase Place E:1.2,7-1Z,15,��,1E i�nse YisCa Ct. L:3� Raseds4e O�r, J�3 Rasela� A�rc. ,�:2-14,�� i�o�sc+�wd �a. N a s �3-� Ruggles S�t. 1-13 R�tst,ell Ct. i,�;�n 1Ave. S�n��ursit Orive San�dy i3omk Or. Se�ctamE Ave. Shad� 6eath �haromdale Arre. Shel dr�r� St . Sherr�era St. S�reaa�Dd Crr. b La. Shrye:r Ave. 5i�sc�rus St. s�i »�� ,�v�. Sr�ilSng �v�. Sr►�llina� Currre S�re�l l i rag Scrv. Dr. u �eliim9 Serv.Dr. E �uthlhfi 1 i �r. S.T .N . 354� 5.T.t�. 3E, �.i.N. 36 Serv. !i S.1`.F�. 36 �erv. S s.�.N � St. �Iltaa�ns St. SE. C��ix 5�. St�ph�r�s St. �Stanb�rid� l�ve. Star�b�r�idc�� 5�. S�ate Fa�r� Road 5¢ut,��r Road Se��r 5[. Ta 1 i src,�n Ct�reee ��tuaa 5t. '�er,��mai Road �rr�r��e� Dr. '�nphill Circl� lf r�ns i t 1�ve . �r�s�cn Ra. �'�ctaria 5t. �dirgimia Ave. �ir�gimia G�rcl� 6P�g�n�er Pl ace �gne�r S�. Gi�1n�t St. ii�est IPeri�seter Or. i�s te rn Ave . ues+t.+�aoa circle �dew�rz Road i�heatron kve. 1!'��l�er Ave. �heel�r SL. Slild��r St. 6�411ia� St. iMill� Circle �'i 11 � l.arre �b�ridge Circle �aadb ri�ge Court lioodb r3 dycje St . i800dih�ill Drive Uioodl� Drive ibodrvff Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 �:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 i:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,27 R,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-�:4; G-H:1-4 6-N:1-20 G-2-4 N:3-4,7,8y17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,N:2 H:2 6:7-$ A:i t� :9 �:16 K:12 D:lp .Y : 6 f:l-3 C:7,�0,11,18;C-0:25-1b G:�� F:9-14,16-20 B:i-� A-L:14 C-0:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 £-�:l G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 . E:11 E:11 G:20 t:20 A-6,i:20 Q:11-14,17- A:9-10,I3,1 ,2� _ . K:18 � � �' . � � � October 23, 198�- T0: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren � SUHJECT: OFFICE HOURS OCTOHER 16 AND 23, 1985 1. Juh1, 489-8240 Richard Juhl a.s a young man who has purchas�d residence and museum southeast of Dionne Street, Minnesota Fec3eral Savings and Loan building Lexington Avenue. The praperty m�asures 75 fec�t equaling 13,725 squar� feet, with a two story, building attached to the old Kugler r�sidence. the iCuqler behind the fronting on by 183 fQ�t, 30 by 60 Richarc� said he purchased the prop�r�ty foz S85,OOQ, with the intention o� living in th� residenc�, ancl a�suming that he could do �o�n�thing productive with th� 3,600 squaro �aot struc�ure. �e inr�uir�d as to whether hQ �au1d cregta a� mini- �t�rage facilit� out of thc� structure. MiQ �otad �ha� thi� wauld requ�re indu�trial zoning, anci wrould no+t bc� an appr4priatQ uac� �or tha ].oca+�ian �nd th� �ita� Wo @xplainod �0 1Mr, Juhl that ��rhaps �he best buy�� o� tho site would havQ baQn Niir�nosat� FQ�Q�ral� t�►!1d p�310E18p� h�t a� this stag�e, sh�u�� cot�Cact tham �cagardinc� ti�eir gos�iblo u�sc� Eor the sit�, or �inanciny fo� �o��z camp�ci�ble d�vQ�o�o�� n�i Uso af �he axiz�inc� �+�ructu�e. t�a know �h�� t�it�r��sota FadQrai doa� no+� h�vQ adec�u�►�Q perkin� �o�c tk�4ix amp3�ayQasr a�nd �h�t th�t�r emplo�c�cr� �rc� inst�u+ct�s� �a �ark �n Di�s�nQ St��9to T�u�, addi�g �hiss p�opQrty tc� +the�ir �i�a h�� obviou� meri+�. hainnc�sata �o�ar�l a�so ��a�s�� eto e�pand �ht�i� drivQ-is� fa�cil,��y, i�n which c�sca �hQ o1d �t�gie�� p�o�t��y could k�e a�p�r�o��i�rely u�a� +�o e�nha►nc� �hei� oxp��t��on end► p��l�ing caF�bil�t�r. �. Haidler. 331�9311. Cl r�ncQ N��dle�� end i��a�ina� Campob�� w��e in �o ��u�s +d�vel�pmc�nt o� �hQir rasid�r��al �i�a �� 294 Ro�a. �� rea+iawc�d dav�lopmQn� crit�rfa, rec�ui�emont� ��atl�s� �o gar�g�ts, dri�9wa�s, �ancl �ard r�qui t�mants v 3. Rydor, 6A5-Q223 Etick �al.mat�U�, cii�cuss a ��sirc� �t 258Q Lan� LakQ �t. pyl�r� sign Erom tDnivc�r�al Siqn cc�mF�ny, w�s in �+� �n th�e par� of thQ Ryclr�� Truck F�en�a�, �e�ap�e Ra�;d, to cnnstruc� a Q5 ft. hig�t�, 2�� $. on the no�theast �arnor a� thcir sito. �r: �x�3ai��c� �2�a �yl�r� s�.�� i�€ a �d 1�4�:i�;� zes�u+�t�flr:s, noting that pxopQrty contiguous to a fr��way i� allow�c� tha�t size $nd height of sign. HowavQ�, the �tyder prc�p�rty is no� �ontiguous �o th� s��viGQ roarl on the west side af �5�1, there b�ing � piece of property on the �ast sid� a� Ryd�r �wned by thE Jahnson Broth�rs F'l�ral Compgny, which awn� th� prop�rt� to th� Noxth. Unci�r th�sa conditions, wo not�d that fre�way si2� sign would not b� �llowed on th� Ryd,er prop�rty. � , � � � • Office Hours, October 16 and 23, 1985 Page 2 4. Labelestra, 228-6922 John Labelestra, owner of Lido's Ca�e, was in to revi,ew with David Drown, Craig Waldron, and me his propc�sed n�w restaurant site on the w�st side of Snelling, north of Mid�aay F�rd. �heir cu��ent site plar� allocates a strip of land 50 f�. by 345 ft. on the south �c3g� of the prop�rty �contiguous to the north edge of Miciway Ford) far the purpas� of constructing � public road��moC eGlendanning��ruck�t�rm#�n81 the S�pace Centor pro�rtY t� s��), which ri�h�-of�way wa�ld be proposed �o b� purc��€�d by tha Ci+�y �� e par+t of tha t��c �ncr�ament program. �� pla�n is fo� John �.�1�lc��t�� t� purcha�c� t�er c�ntirc� tra�t, �nd �h� C�ty waulc� chen pur�chasQ e�ea r,�qh�-o�-ara��/ �or �ppro�i��t�ly ��0,040 �rom �ot�n. �'hc� i�ndl v�lu�a c�� out a�t 83.25 �e�r squarc� �aot, '�1�e� bUilc��nq v�luc� i� �ppro�ci�at��y 59�� 000, �rhic�a c�Q�►t�$ a��x ��r��a�a�� o� a,b�o►u� S 3Q � Opa �� y�t� � , Cra►i� rc�a��a�c� c��h�r �i�+c'�n�s a� �hc #�raq�c�m �n rc�la��f�r�at�� o JAk�n L��ScI�� " � nar��d� �ar �o� l co��octl�a� c�n� ��a ��o��y a�d w��+�e-d�an +�o rts��ct �ht� p�ro��c� s�o�k. ��c�� r�il � gcrt�lr�q ��k �� 3o�n �c��dl�� hc� li�n�l �o�� c��n�"T'��a� �hc� �a.x ��e�ra��at pr�r� a�d de�va�ls�p��h��l�c� �h� ��x i ��rc�t�n� ��qr�� a� � l � � ��6�� , �10�,4p0 �c�i� ��r�a��Qn ��, ��c� r��hr�Eo�-�r�� c��cr�� an� �c�� ons��ue��, �� -d'�'n rrc:�d� �or �h�r �e�a�c��. ��d� �o��s �� c��a�� ib� �� a�� t�c� ��e� C��c�� c��e�uc��a��0��►�� F'�rd �t�i�� s��a�a �� th �� t�� l �� a ��cc�� . � , ��i nna�o�� `a��r�, � 4�� 8s ��n�� a� ��na��a�� o��a�� oa� �r� �e t� �� t, ��c��al, ��+� �� eu�� c�x� ��c�� u� ��r�� h�� a �h�� v�a��, ��►��i�i�� n �h�� ►� �h� a�� :�i�� r��h� ��e��+guou�t�� h� i��'��u�. �'�e�� ,��, e�� u��+�� 1u��um ��c��r��. �� ah��i�� ccs ��et q�e�t�e�.a�ta� the� a��c��i��e�na�� ! ��re��at� ga��l �a��.i��ri�+� �h� �au�ch�� h� ��r��h��p��y��o �ho�t�c�► ��e�� a�� Q� p��i��t�4 gi��e�� z�� . 'Tri�� a�n� lem�r� r�oted ,]��k HoE �n�� +�h��he��x�h��ha �csnior v.icts F��i��r��, Ku�lc��c ��+��, A�Q�i��n �r�� r��fl, hc�rc��r, nca� �o pu�°c��c �� ita. w� w�� i�st ��n��c��i�� . ��:�� ^ �:�� ..lm of th� �i ey�' s con�c�ar�s ��s��d�� h� ins�o�quacy o� ��eir s,�� o� parking� pu�pc�s�� ar�d c�� concc�rn re��c�iceq t�t�.i.r ��qu��t for v�rianb��Q��p�lAn�i�� Cammi�ei n�0at� '�he uarianc� wil� ba Gor�iasi�n`s Nova�nbo� 6 mQating. . � Office Hours, October 16 and 23, 19�5 Page 3 � Duane and John informed us that Minnesota �ed�ral will be merginq with First Federal on January 1, 1986. The pending � merger has made .it difficult, in som� cases, for decisiorts to be made. We encouraged them to consider acquisition o� more land to solve their parking and expansion ne�ds. 6, �rsnke 636-6400 Bi11 Frank�, attorney, ha� b��n worki�g �a�d on tY�e dovelopment propos�l for Jef f Nie�s�n' s Ccampar�y +�c� d�velop � proj�ct on the Swahn Trust prop�rty. H� wa�� in today �o in�o�m us �hat it app�a�rs they may hav� to �ir�ap th�e pra��c�� ur�lc�$ an �pproxir�$eo S4 million wri�e-ciown �an be at�compli�hed o� th� p�ropc�rty throt�gh tax increme�a� financing. H� na�od �hg� the co��s incluae, at the mo�n�nt, �2.7 mill�.t�n for �t�e p�apar�y, 81 �0 m�llion for thc� �oi� �corr�ection, ar�d app�oxir�ate�l�► S. � mill�#.ora +to thQ Ci�y ta covo� a��a�m�n��. �h�� e�als �4.� mil�j.oat, �hi�h �or appr�osc�im�tc�� 525,000 sa�. �t. t�2 �cre�� c��es a�c +to S�.Oa �r �q�u��e faot. �i�� a��aad �h�� hay had �o�kQd ,�� th� �ssibility �� edu�in� �t�e ��o� of �he p��o�ac� �o tMe �xi.qir�$1 twa s+��x�y ��o��gl t��hout �h� four ��ory to�r�r) . '�hc�y �c��. �u�ia a �� 1�+i 1�� m�t�� e�i ly� mm�k�t8.�lct, ba�� t#�+� ��dttction ��rdl ��a� �Qr#a�c�a �hc �a�c i�ce�mQnt � a�nci thta� ��c�� nr�� a�.rr� �� r��i�tm. �c� a�c��Qd �h�� hc�re �r� ��ob��1� �h�Qe ��r�r�u�s �F ��r�►��h c� � ��lc� �o �n��C� i� �ork: � �. ��c� c�e� ��cc d� �hcz �ar��. � �� °�� srs �r�a�lap�n� don�� d p��err��i��1 e�� the �itc�. �. ��t��.�� h+� ��ur�� a� �a�vo.�tr�ar�� q�a�ey, ��1 �+�� a�t th� �s��hn '��►�� epi� �r3��1 n�� b�dc�e� ar� th� ��c� �� i�� a��r��. �c� �u�+�s��tca� thet� �oa�k �t thc� ��b,��t�� aotQl �Q �c�iz� w�� h�m an �Ma �� io� ��i��c�� t� �� i�� c�vcl�p��y a� c�,�g��a],�y p��es��c�+d. �c� �s�� h�t �h��e� ��+� h��t�� ,�c�p��a �aw ��°:�caus�y �e��r�� ch��a�� 6�c� ��tro��i.��n c�re�, �.r►�ludir�� t3�� n��C�� , �i�� .�u��m��ec� ehQy had dloncx �crm+� �.��i�c� �r� ��ai� c��Qn, 3�u� i��v� �o�h�n� s��r�i�l� �� p.o�s��s. �� t�cat�+d th�� e� ��t�� r�u�.t� lik�l� k� a�+�t��.�►��oly ��tr� p�t ��r�� r �� ou�h��s � � . � m�. �l�an C ��n� �� si Sl� �ni�� e�r��►t ara��l, Thr� ��ic Qqu��y in�e��mQr�t �+��t�� r� tha �i�� @�►��t�ot�� o� �hc� �a�a�. t��, F'xar�kn �� h�t t�� ict��e� G��r�� ,�� ,p�gin� �or ��5�.� �+avQ� a�E ��h c��t�ib��i�n. ta� $1��u�t��C! �i�� im�2i��[lot�� fl� fi��81 d1t��p� Ci+��+ Cl��i� r�o�i�� 1��t �a S�0 m�llic�n d�svc��c�pm�cr�t w��.uc� r�quiras a��pzoxim��,ly n�c� mil tra �a�aa� � �i�cal disp�rit3�� c�ntr�tau�ien a�t �hi� +t�r�o �r� thQ City oE Ro�av�ll�s. Craic� �u��r��t�c� �h�t ��11 �r��d i�i� peop�� look �t �ahe� coulc� taa �Ie�ne� � wi�h �ppxc�xim��l}� � S�, 5 mi113on� incr�mQ�nC. �'o a��a�d th� �►F�alic��ioz� �or si.t� �1�r� �pprov�l �h�ulc] bc prncQ�s�d� pQa�dinc� mcaxa �peci�ic Q�a�uat,�an of �lt�rn��iv�� latin�r t9 �he devs�lo�mQnt caf thc� site �s propo�od. � � � • � er 16 and 23, 1985 Office Hours, octob Page 4 were �, Bell 349'8909 ark Queripel, both from Coldwell Bheke�ontrol Tanya Bell and M ossibility of redevelopingRoad B-2 and in to discuss the p S�.te, owned bY site at the southwest anr11r4�fa�ren y a lease Data This 15 who holds Fairview Avenue. The lease ear 2000• the Control Northwest Mutual Lif trolsDatacto theaY , bu with options to Con es are very favorable to Control Data, the buil.ding rat , ' uidating much of theirtr�eal estate to Data organlzation ls �lq large scale cash. Control Data °omsensatedlfornVery acqulre Would have to be a p only► but rovements. lease hold imp ille transferred at TheY noted that a r��90tcents �g.50 per square foot, at o f the Last SFinadei the�value o� foot. Thi re �oot, in Rosev revious sale higher than tha.60 per square approximately � b�tW�en the Conis�iikely conservative. which $6.00 and �7.OA a squa e have some ma�or n�tional companies Tanya and Mark noted th yincluding the �stes CampanY Qut of nterested in the sit�►the Inte�national �arv�'gand Cabctdand i develop�rs °f phoeni� � the Lincoln ProP�:rties CompanYhBnd�� Qn the in St• pau��' �he latt�r of wl�om has a noted �ha� theY Forbes CompanY� anization• 'Th�� Ma rshall Fields stores °r@ st.rongly interest�d in �ffice a�d have local build�rs who a sit�s in the Ros�ville arca gs w�ll. � site, retail. th the Ci.ty' s palicy w'ith r��pcact to � noted � esire to hav� tih� l�nd rus�v�loP� W the City s d �or busin�ss indicating and ��fi�ci�n�ly lan� Plan�►�n� mor� int�nsQly ��gula►tian&� d iscussed aPPr��riat� Z°�iQflcouxaged '�h�m tQ con�haue la�dr Folicy. �►nd proc�dures. thQ �Qdav�lopr�cnt °offica tow�r, �gfo�t� ta accomAli�h �incipal �in t�nta�iv� land us�and r��aildsp�ce as p ta�d ro utiliz 9 �Qst�ur8nts, not be att�mg parking ramP� arl�ing r$rnP which woul�l us�rs. W� sug'��sted that a� be constr uct�d frontin9 on w�s� pt�g�r��dy�in�PZBCQ• disrupt tho r�steura�nt raw con�c�p , Kohout 4�7-2741 n�,�r busina�6 �tudant ��u iness Institut� � Kohout iS a s� �ave a zoj�ct with tk�� Sm40Q to �,000 sq. ft. and is conducting P. �a �C�� but locate an a�Pr��'riat�sg�,tsch olaassignm�nt P j �or to clinic• This i m@dical �ctua]. group of docto�sban� aroa � loF �f 0rably' r�pr�5�nt� an � no�-th�ast subur q 6 tQ 1�87� clini^ si�a in �� =Q v�a3 in �-�- R�s�vill�. Co�S�ruction i� p P which cou�d be W� discussed fave op tional sit�s in th� City u� o�es. Mr. or r�dev�lop�d for m�d�oay o�ihis ultimate r�pont develoP�has a�gre�d to giv� u� a p uiri.es �cegardi q Kohout �nd wi11 pursu� �n9 for our informatioe�tions. th�s� sites arid sugg � . � � • Office Hours, October 16 and 23, 1985 Page 5 9. Murray, 633-9525 Bob Murray of G. N. Butler and Associates, commercial and industrial real estate agents, was in with Scott Kelly, who owns a hardware distribution business here in Roseville. He currently rents a structure at 1936 West County Road C, and desires to build a new building, or acquire an appropriate existing buil.ding, to house approximately 10,000 square feet, of which he would occupy 5,000 square fee� initially. He also has a friend who is looking for about 15,000 square feet in Roseville, so that it's possible that he could construct a building af 25,000 square feet. We discussed several sites, including a site on the south side of County Road C between Cleveland and Fairview. That site is currently occupied by Gasci Decorators. We reviewed the City's tax increment proqram and improvement tor major street access (County Road H-2 bridge� etc.). The sites noted for his consideration ar� all currently zoned industrial, and are not included in potential business sites indica��d in the compr�eher�sive plan, �hey will pursue these sites, and possibly be back for fuxther consultation later. 10. Car�i, 784-0676 Ronalcl Card is a builder, who has been asked by the Texaco �il Comparay to add a 3 ft. by 10 ft. storage shed on the b�ck of the Texaco statior� at th� north�est corner of Larpent�ur and Sn�lling. The station was built in 1�82, having received � special use permit from the City Council Qn June 14, 1982. 'The �ermit indicated that construction was candi�ioned on th� development b@inq accemplished as shown in plana d�ted June 2, 1982. Thus, the addition of a storage facility on th� north ensl of th� building cannot be allowed �xcept t�rouqh r�proc�ssing of th� conditianal us� permit. �`h�� gropos� to attach this to the building, setting it on a thrc�� foot sid�walk Qr� the north sido of the buil�ing, without footings. ThEr� would be a pai�r of doors on �h� north side to allow access to the attachment for tha storage of oil and other products. t,�e sugg�s��d Ck�at a prop�r additian tc� the building should bc� �o�sid�red� c�oc�� in bri�k �o as to match th� oxiginal structur�. il. i�erz, 926-2646� Steve M�rz, groj�ct m�nag�r �or the weis Co�struction Company out of Rochest�r building th� Pavilion Place, was in to px�s�nt a r�vised lands�ape plan for the r�o�th and east side of �h@ d�v�l��m��t. Having m�t with the neic�hbors to the north anc3 east, he indica�ed their preference for a concentr$tion of coniferaus trees, a mixture o� pine and spruc�. Office Hours, Oc�ober 16 and 23 1985 • �. � Page 6 � Our problem is that the plan, as redrawn by one the local nurseries, simply indicated a straight line of trees, with " very litt�.e landscape material to embelish or enhance the appearance of these two strips of land, as was extremely well done in the plans prepared and approved by the City with this development. We reviewed the cost of the landscaping originally prepared for the north and east sides of the building as originally submitted, with that being now proposed. Our landscape architects estimate that the new proposal costs forty percent of the original proposal. We, therefore, had one of our landscape people revise the species shown in the original plan so as to concentrate on coniferous plants as the neighbors requested. However, the basic design was largely maintained as originally submitted, which will be far more effective and desirable, rather than the straight line of trees proposed in the revised submission. We referred this drawing back through Mr. Drown to Mr. Merz. It may be that due to the lateness of the season, i� would be more apgropriate to construct this green planting in the sprinq. In any case, we feel it important that the City get the landscaping effort commensura�e witk� the value and quality originally proposed. -� � � � ti r 3120 A �� 3000 � � B J - ' � � s�� , �. � . / D � � 2640 �•r�.+� _ E� :apo - i F I � f�A/1 Q Tt11Yli �• `I � .Iixso H V' � � � F,} � I 2040 : � I J `� 1920 , r. � g� 3 � co. ■e. 'o �/ �%///�� • . / ) :+' + �4� • � . 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K ll isoo �- L � isso �il..—,�i '1��i'��ii y� �� a� �� _�� I� II s�� . �5 r�. �C7 � �7 0l IS � (� e�i� �O 'I � b � � �� Acoril' Aglen � Aglen St. Aladdin St. Alameda St. Albemarle St. Albert St. Aldine St. Alta Vista Dr. Arona St. Arthur P1. Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. Avon St. Bayview Dr. Beacon St. Belair Cir. Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir Carlisle Ave. Centennial Or. Center St. Chandler St. Chats�rorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. � Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,�:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-! :I1 E-N:11 E:19 L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road l�amline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel dr. Neinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. , Lakeview•Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �,4,11,13 E,F,L:I2 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J : b I:Z I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,N:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J:2 F:20 6-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 �:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,N:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,0:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 8:11,12 C:10-13,18 1:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 . • C,D:13 , 1;11-20 FE:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,l:12 little Bay Rd. A:i7,18 � Long Lake Rd. A-F:3 Loren Rd. J:5 Love11 Ave. G:13-16,18 Lydia Ave. A,6:1,6-14 i.ydia Court A:1 Lydia Or. A-6:14 Plackubin St. C O,J,L:17 Mtanson St. B:1 Maple Lane 6:1,7,8,20 Maple Lane Ct. B:lg Marion Rd. H:3 Marion St. 8-Y,L:20 Matilda Circle F:19 Hati7d�a St. B-D,F,G:19 McCar;un Blvd. N. J:18-2Q hkCarron Blvd. S. K,L:18-20 NkCarrans St. B-D,H,K:11 Midland 6rove Rd. H:4 Midland Hills Rd. J:3 Midlothian Rd. H-I:8 Mid Oaks Lane b Rd. J;8 Mildred Dr. A,6:6 Millwood Ave. 6:7-8,10,13-15 Millaood St. 6:1,19 Milton St. A,H,:14 Minresota Ave. G:18-20 Nbundsview Ave. J:17 hbunt Ridge Rd. A-D:5 Ffancy Place G,H:14 Northview St. B:20 Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Oakcrest Lane E:19 Old Nighway 8 A-B:1-2 Orchard Lane C:14 O+rasso Blvd. S A-C:16-20 Os�+asso Blvd. �1 A-6:15-16 Oxford St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Parker Rve. I:13-15 Partridge Rd. 6:3-4 Pascal St. A-F,H-J:10 Patton Rd. A-B:l Pineview Ct. K:16 Primrose Curve D:10 Prfor Ave. B-G,I-J:5 Prior Circle A:5 Rarnbler Court D:18 �mbler Rd. D:10 Raymond Ave. A-6:4 Rice St. A-1:20 R`idgev�aod La. N b S J:8 Ridger�wod Rd. A:9 erw Roma Ave. L:11-13,16,19 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 Rose Yista Ct. L:12 Rosedale Dr_ J:3 Ftoselarm Ave. J:Z-14,17 Rosewood La. � � S J:3-4 Ruggles St. K:11-13 Russeil Ct. 6:8 icyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hook Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillrnan Ave. Snelli�g Ave. Snelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E South�ill Dr. S.T.H. 35W -- 5.T_H. 36 S.7.H. 36 Serv. N S.7.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Sumner St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. 7erminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle 7ransit Ave. Troseth Rd_ Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Nagener Place Wagner St. Nalnut St. West Perimeter Dr_ Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Idheaion Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. �ti 11 i am �t . Willow Circle Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Woodbridge Court 4lood bri dge St . lioodhill Drive I�loodtynn Drive ll,l�oodruff Ave_ -13,17 12,14,15,17,19 F:g,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 R:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,i7 A,B:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-6:4; G-H:1-4 6-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 6:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:19 . E:12 E:11 G:20 L:20 r;-� , I : 20 D:11-14,17-18 ` A:9-10,1�,14,i9,20 K.18 �� October 14, 1985 T0: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: OFFICE HOURS, OCTOBER 9, 1985 C� 1. Ternes, 633-2834 About �ix months ago, Gr�tchen Ternes, w�s attempting to put together a land package consisting of the four single family homes on the west side of Fulham Street, and the corner parcel owned by Murphy at the southwest c�rner af T�rminal Road and Fulham. David Drown, at th$t time, was also working with the Murphy people and the four single family home owners to revi�e ponding eas�ments necessary to construct tthe expansion of Fulham Pond. �retchen Tern�s now re�or�s th�t sh� was unable to acquire thE Eour singl� family hames, noting that two of the owr�ers were agre��ble, anci the two othe�s chose not tQ sell �t this time. Thus, Gretchen T�rnes was in with Dick �ohnson of D. t�. Ha�stad, contractors, and Rob Ni�xengarten, arch3.t�ctt Sh� prop�ses now to p�rcha�� th� Piurph�r sit� only, cansisting af 1.58 acr�s with 264 feet of �rontage on Terminal Road, and 2�S f��t of frontag� on Fu1h�m. David Drown inform�d us that the west�rly 30 fe�t of th3.s ttract will usurp�d by �nQ r�vised ponding ��s�ment. The City propo��s to �,ill por�ien� of th� larad as a part o� �h� e�s�m�nt agre�m�nt. �1s. T�xnas propos�s to construct a].4,040 square foQt bui�d�.r�g, which would consi�t of 1,000 square Ee�t af offic�, and g,QQp squ�re f��t of manufacturinc� space. N�r company produces graphic arts �quipmen�s Th� land is shown �s indu�t�ia1 on the compr�hensive p1an, and a r�zanin� ta th� I�-1 di,stxict would b� requireci inasmuch as the e�cisting zonine� remains �ingle family� �1e discuss�ci dcv�lopm�nt regu].�tiQns �nd praccdur�s, �mphasizit�g the City's d�sire to have a high gual�ty buildin�g atficiently utili�ing th� land. Rob Ni�r�ngart�n will now prepare prelim�.nary site plans, graeling plans, landsc�p� pl�ns, and pr�liminary building plans for subsequen� me�tings with the sta�f, we sugg�sted th�y look at ways in w}��h t� mak� the building lar�er, and in scaie with th� site. This might be done by makin� it a two story building, or, at th� very least, provide for futur� expansion oE the building. � � �� Off2ce Hours OctoT�er 9 1985 � r � 2. Woodbridge, 541-1000 Eric Nessett, Woodbridge Development Company, and Linda Fisher, Hoffman, Larkin, and Daly, attorneys, were in to discuss progress and procedures for the development of the propased office and office/service park on the west side of Cleveland, between County Road C ancl D. We reviec�ed preliminary drawings indicating the site concept plan, preliminary landscape plan, and elevations of the twc� principal office structures, that of a thr�e story building on the north, and an eiqht story buildinc� on the south. A very attractive, colored aer�a� perspective was also presented. David Drow:� discussed the concep+� of provi�ding a public str�et to meander generally north/south through the prop�rty, and the City`s requirements thereto. He norod our �policy of not ha�ving l��dscapinc� wi�hin th� boulQvard, so a$ to pravide fo� ac�equat� snaw stcarage and plowinQ, T'hn woodbridge peopl� have s nearl�► finali�ed report p�c�pi��red by �1im B�nghoove, tra�f.ic can�taltart�� wh,ich rQcommencis spt�ci�ic Yoa�wa� snc! r�c�hts-of-way along with ana�g�s�� of �traffie �en�ra�ting fsctor �nd volum+�s. Crai� t�aldron noted �hat he is meetinc� wi�h the Efnancing �c��.m, as�i�ting �c� put�inq tho ea.x i�crQmant p�o��a.� tac�ethe�c. w� inqu�.rc�d �bau� a sp�ca�i�ic s�aginq� pl�n, wh��l� h�8 n4+� Ibos�n cc�m�pla�ed �� this p��nt. '�"hi� f� c�ucfal t�o thQ csvalua�ic�� and an��y�is of �h� ��x :increm�c�� di�tric� inasmuc� �s �he ��mfng �� thQ �r�c��mer�� fa�� o� �i�c f� � ��qni��r�ant �ac�a� ,�n pro��°�ming �h� t�ar�d�nq fo�c t�e p�t��eact. �Q a�rQc�d �hat ar� �Aw �r�u;�c� � teqta�r�d, bu� �ot �n ��, 'Tt�c� �r��r��ry �At� w��l ba� ��ct�ar� by �h� t��db�ci��e �op�e �c��c C�c� �cv��. w� ��re�� h�t tPoez �ched+�l,i�� o� c��r��t� �o� �hc� �ccom�li�hrncnt o� �h�s dce�a�o�nc�� oq�ra� �ril� �c�r��at��l� B� �s ��llow$� I�ovt��c�� 6 t��ar�t��c r 1. � �ul�mi��ar� �f �i��,le��ane pl�ns ��d co��t�� t�tc�m�n� r�� ta� � . c�o�auc� � �Q�� ►��n e�,� ��o��o� �a�la� by �i�� oodbridqQ �o�� du�in�r �h�� t,rot!}C , Nowamt�e� 1� Ci �y C�u�ci 1��t �mQnd�en� to tt�e �amp�ahc�nsi��a plan �nd t�x inc�om�n� �rc��am +eo th� ��ing Cor�mis�,ic� t Planninc� C�mrnission mu�t detQrmir�� tax i� �rennene ��g�em f� consis�an� wi�� h� �.�m��hc�nsivo p�an�. Cour�cil �acts on prelimina�y tax in��amant finenc� proc�rar� and d�velopmen� agrQc�m�nt. Decemb�r � Plannin� Commission consid�rs gu�d� �lan amendment �nd �ax increment pr�c��a�m. � � � • Page 3 tober 9 1985 � Office Hours, Oc , December 16 Council acts on amendment to comprehensive . plan� tax increment district development agreement, and authorization for bond sale. Assuming the process Commissionncouldcreviewnansapplication December, the Planning for r�Zoning, plans of development, and preliminary plat at � meeting in January or February. The general timing intenW��h to staxt cor+struction with Phase I in early Spring, Th� equipnn�nt moving to the site prior to road restrictioa�s. key to all of this happ�ning �ppropriately and consistent with this timing schodule, is th� evolution of a wor)cable tax incr�ment pro9r�nr. r3evalopmen� schedu�o, and bonding pacogram. Thus, a corremitm�nt to �h� ��o��rucialhto theio dor�.y�c�nduct 8nd e�evelo�ent �qr�Ement, of thQ proce�s. E�i� Ne�sa�t �e��wtitton aqreemonts hav�erbc�e�n �i��t0 n�ith un�ommi�te�d, and tk� a�l thc� othc�� landc�vnQ�s. 3. �ho�r��, 726-9�i4 Tan� Short r�ps�c��n�� O�v311a��o �un�tion�as�a�►�� ►t�l�i�Q �oak�nq �ox � ��tc� i� Ras �en�a� car oE�icQ� Tt�c�i� principa]� o��i�Qs an� rt�af�.nte�a�� a�ci�ieic� �o� �arr� th�Q� hundr�d c��s are �na��tainQd at �#at��pol��er► ��r�. "�hci� r�e�ci� arQ �a� 640 �q�us�ce �a�� of � O��G�� 't3 �ftt[,��Oj/t1Q��o �:Pli� !$�7�Ct� �O� ��p�'�'X�t11�Ci2�y ��VQ t0 �ix c��s ar� � narv��l d�y's o��n. �de nc��c�d �h�� c�r 1c�a�f�nt� i�► �rov��c�d ��n a S��i�l t8�e� �Q��m�+� i� ��-�, I�� r�� I=2 d��t�� n� +��a� hc �houl� lc�k in ��a� o� tt�e ��y �hu� �o�e� �Q� ��ib�cs �o�en�i�1� �a�caexons. �h�s ��#�co �rill �un��an a� �hc� �orth�� a�� ts�, �nd i� ��1��op��a�e�iy rrot pctr�m��e�tl i.n +�tocr �-2 0� 8-1 ��ci��. �. Han�e�n ��3�5� �c n ti�n�an i� �h� $e,��w �� El�n�rc� ��lc�s�i�, wh�$a hu�b�rnd d�c�d �r�c�n� l� � �len�rc� Gd l lc��p�a 1 ivc�s w�sc �� lct�sr�� Avar►ue, �ut ow�s �► ��kc� sha�rQ ��rcQl� �n �taa ��t �lde o� �`i��c�r�a �n L�k� C�w�sso, we ai��t�ssttd �hQ au�.l� ai��l�.t�► o� �h� p��c�el, �an whic� �Q ap�aa��nClg� h�� 8 9Q �o�� ttct�t �ronta�qQ, lbut a sha�lo� d��+�h. wa �u��a�t�d tha �an� b� ��va�act �� ,� cca ��caxtain �h� �ite �i�Q a►�c� de�ath, par�i�ular�� it relA�a� �o thQ lo�a��cn af tho t�igk� ��stor maxk �ram tha l�ke. with this in�ormati�n, � r�a�ona�bla d�cis;�c�r► e�� bc� m�dc� �h��h�r th� pro�rty is, ir� �a�ct, buil�abl4 or not. � - � - • • . � Offfce Hours, October 9, 1985 Page 4 We noted the dev�lopment regulations, and the requirement for • a ten foot dedication along Victoria. Mr. Hansen has talked to the owner of the ma.rina to the south, who has offered to purchase the properLy for a nominal sum if it is "unbuildable". Obviously, the land is worth more if a single family home can be constructed on the site. The property immediately to the north, which approximates the same dimensions, is occupied by an existing single family home. We suggested that a variance could be applied for, based on a specific proposal to construct a dwelling unit on the site. We know that it was not the intent oF the ordinance to create unbuildable lots, but rath�r to assure the enhancemen� of the future aesthetic quality of the lake in a practical and r��sonable way, 5. Hess, 4�8-7261 Roger H�ss was back �i�h revi�ed draw�ngs relating to the deuelopment �f hi� properky at the southw�s� carn�r of McCarron Str��t and Ric� S�re��. M�, Hess not�s that hQ at�empt�d to work with four differen� �andscapo archit�cts, but couldn't find onQ �ho would do riis work. Thu�, his rovis�� drawings arc ��ry similar to �he p��v�ously prepa�ed �r�win�s on tho si�e, antl a w�� section through si�Q, � flo�r p18n, and a��11 ��ction ot thQ propos�d bu3ldin�. WQ �xpXess�� our conc�xn at th� l�ck of adQgvatQ drawinqs, na�in� �hat wQ h�d infarm�d th� Council and Planning � Com��sion th�t such dra��ng� wars in the proces� �� b�i�� prQpared. �r. �te�� notad he �imp�y �ants �o p�o��d �it� what ha has �o�, Ni� p�o�os�l i� �o �e��e �he a�phalt �� it i�, ia�twQen the ex�s�fn� �t��u�a and �ha ��r�� o� th� no�th �i�� of th� bui�d�nq on thQ Q�s�a�l� h�l� �E the prope��y. A�pr��m��e�y th� westQ��y h�l� o� th�� e��a would b� sa��d and d�vQl�pcid with appropr�at� ��yuirA� cu�bs s��und �h� riew d�i�Qway a�d �he parkin� ��Q� p�op�os��. ��Q bu�ldi�� i� pro��od t� � p��nt�� con�rQt� bl�ak w�th � 3/� sp�� of �oek �� b��ek �ea� th� t�� o� th� $�ruc��rc. Si�a Q�Qya�io�� o� tha �xi�tir�g ��d pro�os�d s�ru��ur�� c nat pro�idod �� u��. ��. M�� ha� �o�Q practica� p�obl�ms i� ��a�pt��g �o de�elop a�oddad lawn in tho r��uir�d ��rd o� �� o��h �ide af the �u�ld�ng, inasmuch as the �trQ�t has b��n �s�h�lted to wi�hin �wo a�d one-�alf fao� of thc ri��-o�-e�ay linc. Tho �robl�m �an �e �os� �nd most adequa��y c��rectQ� b� Che �ity recon�tru�ti�q the s�r��t in tha c�nter Qf t�e righ�-of-way a� w�uld be norma�, pr�v��ing for m��Q adoq�ate boulav$rd ar�a to tie into �ho y�rd space on �hQ no�th sid� o� the building, P�r. 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Ave� J:5-7'�� H:iO-1 ;�5,17,i9 R.1� �:9,10,I2,15,16,18 K:ZO I:5p� c Sf{J1T ��0 Nl:I1-I5 A:7 J:�-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-�O;F,J:9 J:5,6,1tl-12,16,20;1:7 i�—e� : � E-F:9 B�D:� A-d:9 G:18 l�-8E:4; G-H:1-4 c-H:a-za G-2-4 ii:3-4,7,$,27 H-J: 1 C.F,G,L:16 r.�:2 H:2 8:7-8 A:l �:y K:�s K:iz D:20 J:6 F:I-3 C:7,10,11 si8;C-d: i5-16 �.1� F:g-14,16—ZO �:i-z /#-L: Z4 C-D:19 F:29 k:20 K:17-19 E-H:l G:6 g-K:1S J:�4 E:20 n:1�-16 E.F:7 A,B,I,J:7 l�,Y:S I,J:19 �:11 E:11 6:20 L:20 A-�, I :2ti O_12-14�27-18 1�:9-1�,13,14,.�9,2U K:18 � October 14, 1985 TO: Jim And�e FRQM: Paul Blais SU'BJECT: OFFSCE HOURS OCTOBER 3, 1985 1. Bruce waqner Mr, Waqner is a State Farm �nsurance agent, presently renting off ice spac� within the City of Roseville. Mr. Wager desires to construct his own office within th� City. Due to terri�rarial boundries �stablished by the State Farm Home Office, Mr. Wagnex� �rould li,ke a location near the area of H�mline and Caunty Road C. P�esenti�, there is no land in the �re� that is vac�n� and appropriately zoned. �Ix, wagne� wanted tc� kna�a if it is possible to purch�se a hr�r�� ancl convcrt it into �n o�iice. we informed him that such � r�:que�t woul� z�quir� x��zoninq, and could be met with �t�ang object�.ons �y the ne�ghbar°hood. Mr. Wagner was in�ormes3 �tha�t such �ction wo�ld b� difficult ta approv� wi�thout neig�hborh�od support. w'e informed him that if he wish�c3 �o r�quc��t sucia � r�zoning, h� �hould discuss the � m��t�r �►�th thc rtc�igh�orinc� prop�rty owners prior to inv��ting a gr�� deal e�f time o�r mon�y. 2. �a�rk ��innaman, A��lican�, �r�d M�rk Casci, Architect 191q� �t�st Gounty Ro�d C �hQ a��licanC pr�sen�i.y ope��t�s +� truGk storaqe facility at th@ ab��re la�atiot�. 2'hey p�e�s�n+�ed preliminasy plans for a mini=warehou��loffic� clev�,�.o�m�nt t4 r�place the exist�.r�g facilie�,�, �h� ��o�aca�ed us� i� ga�rmitt�d in the I-1 dis�rict. Th� fRcil�ty �ould h�a�r� affi�� s�sc� �acing Co�ntxir Road C with w�rahouso �+truc��res loca�e�d b�h�.n�. T't�e m$�n structure wau�d �1sa in��ude a wgtchman's r�sicience, wt�ich is a �Qrmit�Gd a��ss�ry us�r Ti�e in�clusion of otfic� space within tho s��ue�ure s�i�i p��mit �h� frantage of the site to b� �i�v�lop�d wi�h I��r buildin� matorials and landscaping than �� normally ��s�ciated w�.th m3.ni-war�t�ouses, W� discuss�d orc�i��nc� �cquir�r�+�t�t� and documents r�quired for subm3�sion. t�r. �'inn�ma�n rn�ntioned that a drainage probl�m �atis�s ciu� to w��r dra�n3.r�g on to the prop�rty from eluc�ios' Caterir�g, loca��d to �l�� west o€ �he site. Due to th� �xi�tinc� dra�inage patt��ns, we� hav�e sugg�sted that they hix� a p�afe:ssianml er�g�.ne�r to e�camine th� �u�ur� drainage pat�erns for �his site. Th� �pplicants wili came b�ack f or a s�cond me�ting wh�er� th�y hau� p��pared more detaiZed � s�abm�.s�ion r�c�uirem�n�s. • Office Hours, Oct�er 3 1985 • Pa��e 2 3. Bob-VanSlyke Mr. VanSlyke, of Greenbrier Homes, Inc., was in to discuss the conversion of a school site located on Victoria at the southwest end of Lake Owasso to a Senior Citizen Housing Project. Mr. VanSlyke is in the early stages of preparing plans for this facility. The comprehensive guide plan presently identifies th.is area as a site for high density residential. This r�quest will require a rezoning and shoreline approval. We have also discussed with Mr. VanSlyke the submission requirements necessary to seek necessary approval. 4. Cedarpoint Business Park, Woodbridc�e Properties This plus or minus sixty acre development, located south of County Road D, east of 35W and west of Cleveland Avenue, is expected to be added to the Tax Increment Finance District. This will be a very significant development because it will set the tone for future developments along the I-35W Tax Increment Finance corridor. Present at the meeting were: Linda Fisher, Attorney, Larkin, Hoffman, Da1y, and Lindgren; James Book, P.E., Barton, Ashman Associates; Eric Nesset, Woodbridge Properties; and Jim Benshoof, P.E., Benshoof Associates. The applicants showed a concept � story office building of 161,700 the property. The north end of story office building of 80,000 of the site plan is proposed t buildings, with an office mix percent office, and twenty-five plan that includes an eight sq. ft. at the south end of the property proposes a three sq. tt. The center porti�n o be one story, office tech. of approxim3tely seventy-five percent warehouse. nue to the square footage of the office, the project will require an EAWo The project size is not sufficient to require an EIS. The City will be RGU for the EAW. The applicant will prepare all the required EAW materials. They will be reviewed by the City to determine if they adequately address the issues. The EAW will then be distributed to various State agencies for review. The project will require an indirect source permit from the MPCA, due to the f act that there will be more than 2,00� parking spaces. The applicant will be responsible for submitting the necessary permit applications to the MPCA directly, since the review by the City is not a requirement fcr this permit. Woodbridge is in the process of securing purchase agreements from the existing land owners. Presently, only three owners remain to be negotiated with. Woodbridge will continue to negotiate with these landowners. r Oc•ber 3 1985 Office Hou s, , • Page 3 . We discussed the necessary review procedures of the project. � The project will require a comprehensive guide plan amendment in the first step. Due to the layout of the concept plan, a PUD will be a much better alternative than filing a plat. A rezoning will also be required. A PUD and rezoning can be combined ti�ith the EAW to allow several items to be handled at the same meetings, so long as building permits are not issued prior to the final negative declaration of the EAW. The applicant's engineers are completing some preliminary work concerning traffic and drainag�, and believe that these issues can �e adequately addressed, and met. Mr. Walc�ron also discussed some of the TIF .r�quirements and procedures for the project. The applicants will return for a meeting prior to submission f or the comprehensive guide plan amendment. 5. Bill Bixby, Comptroller, Ettinger Transfer Company It seems that during the construction of parking lot improvements, the curb and guttc�r contractor located some lengths of curbing ten feet inside the required fr�nt yard parking setback. Mr. Bixby� assures us that thi.a was not intentionale It was Mr. Bixby's intention to request a variance for this error, based on advice from his architect. V�7e discussed the nature of the situation with him, and informed him that, even though the mistake was unintentional, there is insufficient grounds to grant a variance. Mr. Bixby stated that he had intended to resurface the parking lot entirely but, due to the cost, they were forced to patch instead. He stated that presently they could not afford the cost of re�moving and replacing the curbing. Mr. Bixby said he was in the p.rocess of preparing a plan to patch and sealcoat the entire lot over the next year, and would like to know if they could include the relocation of the curbing in that process, instead of rebuilding it now. In reviewing the error, we feel that the City cannot afford to pexmit the mistake to remain uncorrected, but that deferring comp�.iance with the approved plans would pose no threat to the s�fety of the street or parking lot. We feel that, so long as Ettinger will agree to remedy the error within a fixed amount of time, the inte�est of the City can be protected. Mr. Bixby will not be submitting a request for a variance, but instead will send a letter outlining how the problem wi 11 be f i:�ed . 6. Lido Cafe We met with Mike and John Labalestra of Lido Cafe, along with S�eve Thompson and John Pope, of Pope Associates, Architects, to review the request for rezoning. The proposal incl.udes the construction of a$1 million restaurant/banquet facil'_ty having two levels for a total of 18,140 square feet. 'I'he Labalestra's believe this will be a first class f acility. �J • Office Hours, October 3, 1985 s Page 4 � The project will require a rezoning, since the northern quarter of the property is zoned B-2, and the southern three- quarters is zoned I-1. A variance for the parking setback alor�g the south line will be required. It is proposed that the City will purchase a fifty foot right-of-way along the south line to provide access to the Glendenning proper��y to the west. Presently there is an unconstructed. th.irty foot easement serving the Glendenning property. Tt is in the best interest of the City to provide a public street serving the Glendenning proper�y. The provi�ion of this right-of-way is the primary reason why Lido is unable to provide the required fifteen foot setback along tha.s proposed right-of-way. 5ince access to Lido could be provided by the I-35�1 frontac�e road alone, there is some justification for granting this ten foot variance. � � Pope Associates will pregare parking requirement calculations based on the existing ordinance, as well as the proposed n�w ordinance relating to parking for restaurant facilities. 7. Ernest Schroeder, 675 Heinel Drive Mr. Schroeder would like to construct a six foot wide addition, to his existing garage. This addition wilJ. result in a five foot setback from the side lot line, and less than a tYiirty foot setback from the front lot line. Mr. Schroed�r has discussed this with his neighbors, and has yet to secure a written consent form. He will obtain this prior to his submission. This pr�posed addition will n.ot affect any vegetation within the property. The lnt being platted prior to 1959 requires a five foot side yard. However, the shore- land ordinance requires a ten foot side yard. Therefore, this project will require minor variances for the front and side yard setk�acks . � � �� 2� 3� 4� 5 II /.I // �� 1 � � �= 6'I 7"I 8� 9=I 10 e I I � 12 '-� I 3 �� 14 � 15 � I 6 =I 17 �I I S � I s 'I 20 'I �. � ��r . �,*E , � �, � � i °34" +�-'� '-'id�."F`� � r -- �` ` -- --� � ''Os f-N. .� . � � � e e j - - - - - °- - -- -- -- -- ! - �' ��so � � •n .r l A �� /� ,,,.)» �, • E i u,"` f �L" A �' :,r,/ //��;, � � /r � .Q ...� (�j� �. ; �. _ . �� /� � //�"y�! 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Sa er, 483-2464 who lives at 765 Sextant, proposes to enlarge Daniel Sawyer, extending it to the existing attached fourteen foot garage The width proposed the rear (2� f t. deep) and widening it. is twenty-three feet, six inches, which produces a three foot setback on the side lot line. He is seeking a minor and has written app�'oval of the affected property variance, such double garages vary in width from 24 owners. Typically, ically drive their to 22 feet. Mr. Sawyer notes that they typ cars inside regularly, and want ample roam to open the doors within the garag�. Though the garage could be built twenty- one feet, f ive inchQs, the garage wilsixuinches requestedn this instance at the twenty-three f eet, 2. Tuminelli 633-6333 Carmen Tuminelli, a longtime St. PorltheVpartialarennovation was in to discuss proposed plans f of Louie Johnson's "Paul's Place", on the west side of Snelling. Mr. Tuminelli's plans presented included, of some primarily, rennovation of the interior, and handliears. No of the electrical problems developed over excepty for an addition or expansion is proposed, approximately 500 sq. f t. storage area to be added in the nortr�:aest corner . There have been recent discussions involving a possible major reuse of the site, which has grown over the years, and today constitutes what would appear to be under utilization of one of the finer sites in Roseville. We suggested to Mr. several hundred thousand Tuminelli that perhaps spending structure may not be the dollars to rennovate the existing best solution. Mr. Tuminelli notes that he agrees, anc� that other advisors to Mr. Johnson a9hethe1rennovationMrand delay apparently desires to proceed wi any major redevelopment until severen devela�aednunder arPUD, We noted that the entire site has be and that an amendment to the PUD would be involved if there is building expansion. ,y • • �J � Office Hours September 18 and 24 2 • September 25, 1985 3. Engel, 483-6701 Randy Engel, an architect with Buetow Associates, was in with Tom Dunwell regarding the location of a curbing recently constructed on the Ettinger Truck Terminal and Warehouse site. In accordance with the plans approved by the City this swnmer, the curb on the south side of County Road C was to be seventeen feet from the right-of-way. Through error on the part of the contractor, the curb was actually constructed ten feet from the right-of-way. Mr. Ettinger prefers to leave the curb where it has been built. An additional four and one-half feet is to be dedicated, which would then place the curb within two and one-half feet of the property line. The required setback is twenty feet. Randy and Tom noted that the contractor would redo the curb, putting it in the place if it is done now. We su Proper for them to redo the curb immediatelsted the best solution is a variance, for which there seems rtohebethno ghardship condition. Mr. Honchell did note that as an administrative approval the City could approve the curb line at the far west end of the curb section, where it allows for a better drainage condition into the storm sewer catch basin. 4. Franke, 636-6400 Bill Franke, Attorney; Jim Theusch, Architect; and Rob Davidson, Developer's Representative, were in to discuss proposed office building development on the Swahn Trust property. Meetings occurred September 18 and 24. Bi11 Franke was not present at the September 24 meeting due to a required court appearanc�. The basic concept of the office space development is now quite definite, with 212,625 sq. ft, in the gross building, with 1,073 parking spaces, of which 373 are at a single level, basement garage. The structure is two stories, with a four story "tower" in the northwest corner of the site. We had encouraged the developer to develop the land more intensely, and if used for offices only, the development of as much height as possible in one element of the building so as to create a focal point, and a positive image for this part of the City. Mr. Franke and others et al feel fairly confident about the market, their having contacted a number of potential users though they have no one signed to a lease at this time. We reviewed the submission requirements so as to bring the development proposal to the Planning Commission and Council. The land is zoned B-4, for which a special use permit is required for site plan approval. � Office Hours , September 18 and 24 3 • September 25, 1985 Assuming the level of development as proposed, the site plan 'y • works reasonably well. We suggest further consideration of the direction of the parking lanes in the parking area to the southeast of the main building. We are concerned about the fact that the building along County Road C is in about a ten foot hole. This prevents a right turn access directly off C, which we think could be very valuable. We've asked the developers again to consider raising portions of the building, so as to eliminate this "building in the hole" feature. The height of the buildings has been adjusted so that the top of the parapet (three feet high) will be at elevation 946. The elevation of the bridge across County Road C is at 940. Thus, the elevation problem is substantially resolved. We discussed the height of the air-conditioning and heating equipment to be placed on the roof, knowing that it should be held to parapet height, or we are going to have a problem with that. We talked about building materials which have not been determined at this point. They are goin� to prepare elevation of the structures, and develop further plans �or drainage, sanitary sewage, and storm water. Charlie Honchell and I reviewed the parkinq layout, suggesting that they work directly with the Fire Marshal. We � noted that the driveway contiguous to the building is too narraw at twenty-four feet, and that parking contiguous to the building may not be allowed due to fire access requirements. � We suggested they prepare a signage program to be considered as part of the development approval package, Craig Waldron reviewed elements of the tax increment program with them, noting with Charlie Honchell that the following elements might be included: 1. Movement of ponding area off site to northeast. 2. Widen Long Lake Road. 3. Install traffic light at Long Lake Road and 35 W access point. 4. Construct storm sewer on Long Lake Road (part TIF). 5. Construct sidewalk (possible partial as public improvement project). Craig estimates $2.3 million on a fifteen year bond, and $2.6 million on a twenty year bond. Assuming approximately $2.00 per sq. ft. taxes produces a$366,000 increment per year. Soils correction are estimated at one million, and public improvemPnts related to the site to be done by the City approximate $500,000. � Office Hours September 18 and 24 C� • Se tember 25 1985 P . The intent is for Bill Franke and his people to submit this `�• material in time for the November meeting of the Planning Commission. Thus, there will be two more possible meetings with them prior to the submission, during which time they will prepare the additional detail discussed. Tim Nelson will continue to work closely with Craig Waldron on the tax increment numbers, assessment agreement, and development agreement. � � 5. Busse Dennis Busse and his wiie Barbara are administrators for his father's estate (Car1 Busse). They have a 4.6 acre site designated for housing north of Larpenteur, south of Roma. We discussed development regulations and procedures. They may elect to sell the land for development purposes. 6. Ablin, 291-1215 Dianne Ablin is a legal assistant with the law firm of Briggs and Morgan, and was in to show us a drawing illustrating adjustment to the lot lines on praperties owned by the Hess family at the southeast corner of McCarron Street and Wagner. This drawing simply illus�rates adjustments from 5-1/2 ft. to 11-1/2 f t. to the side lot lines so as to accommodate the location of existing hc�uses. Charlie Honchell noted that these adjustments could be ha�adleci by administrative approval by the Public works Director, rather than a replatting of th� land on the lots. 7. Davis, 332�1234 Ted Davis, Architect, was in with Milo Thompson, his collea.gue, to r�view the revised proposals for the deve],opment of the Rose Pointe Development on the old Carbone site west ot Hamline Avenue. They �lecided to revise the develc�pm�nt downward, r�ducing the number of units from 2Q2 to 212, and from 246 parking spaces to 213. The� are also eliminatang the fourth, fifth, and sixth floors in portions of the building. Thus, at this stage the entire deve3.opment is thre� stories high above the parking level. They are making this change partl� to appease the concerns of the neighbors tr�garding height} and to make the development more realistic to �onstruct, inasmuch as the multi-levels above third floor involve certain costs and functional considerations that were proving to be a problem. The p�oject will now have 105 one bedroom units, and 107 two bedroom units, which confox�ms to the density for the site. The building height will be 37 feet, which is slightly higher than that allc�we�l, �:h�ugth tl�is additional height is because they are putting hip roofs on the buildings, rather than flat roof s. This project is coming be�o�e the Planning Commisison at its Octobe� 2 meeting. �• � • � Office Hours September 18 and 24 5 � September 25, 1985 8. Merz, 926-2646 Steve Merz, Project Manager for Weis Construction, building the Pavilion Place Shopping Center, was in to discuss the results of his meeting with the�ne�u�bon�of�evergreentplants east who are requesting the sub.ti �an previously on the north side versus the mixed plantinq p approved by the Planning Commission and Council. The neigh�ors to the east are desiaoreedithat1StevebMerz awould similar planting program. We g have a landscape architect prepare r�vised grading and landGcape plans to be submitted for staff review. We also discussed some of thftbasi�o �totalfwithha 110t000 wh�ch include 19�,000 sq. 9 leaseable. Hard costs for the building are at �7 million, wi�h approximately $6 mill�on Thelbuildinglpermitrwasmefor which are running $5�/�q• � $7 mill�ona 9. Holmgren Gary Holmgren, a xetired boxer, has purchased theH�ep�oPos�� at the southwest co�n�r of B-2 and Rice Stre�t. to call the restaurant "Hammers Ou��os�heaf�roperty, Pbut�sno to do �ome interior revisions expansion of the buildinq or parking at this time. 10. Nadini, 378-2723 roximateTy 12 ft. �1 Nadini pro�oses to lease an off ice app by �0 ft. in the office building at 2500 West County Road C. His business is one of w�olesaling new imported automobiles. we nQ�ed that such a wholesaling business could functi�n in t�e o�fice buildin� which is theesite�uS�Heanotesuthata�the could not sell any car� from and that any cars in sp�ce will be used for offices only, town wi11 be stored aeSaoli�e�cial garage at 2101 Coma �venue Southeast in Minn p 11. Olson, 984-1655 Walter Olson was in with his wife to discuss their developing a new driveway to their lot on the nor�hwest �hore of Lake Owasso. They propose to constxuct a new driveway on the lot occupied by the�r house which is lat 33. Currently the driveway goes through lot 34, which is contiguous to the southwes�ivewahey propose to sell lot 34, and thus wish to move the d Y We explained to them th� purpose and function of the shoreline zoning ordinance, suggesting that they hire an engineer to prepar� the appropriate plans indica�ing the location and extent of fill to construct this new driveway, Portions of the driveway WWillberepare suchuplans1,l�andanget area Qn the site. They P back to us in preparation for a shoreline zoning ordinance development approval. � � '� A �� 3000 B � Z880 � � C� z�so / ' D � , xsso •• ,. � E � � zazo i F I � � :,00 G �' j2Y0 H` 2160 / �J � ��(� 20�0 :'I J i; �� 1920 K � 3 m a / % 4 � 5 � 1 � `� 7 "� 8 � 9 =� ! t} � i # � ' I � --�t � ' =3 3 7 �� i $ � ! 9 Ni 2 � 14 � 15 � 16 , \ �� ` \�' �," ��!' � � `�._ � �� "h � �l �i � � � � i � �� .�.�_� �� . . 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B:11 Fulham St. � Belmont Lane I:lO,ll,lb Galiier Circle Bismarck Ave. G:19 Galtier St. Bossard Dr. H:18 Garden Ave. Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. Brenner Court R:2 Glenhill Road Brenner St. A:1 enwoo� Ave. Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,i2ij,_ G�u k Lane Brooks Circle F:19 +�+� j �.� ,,: _ . ,..� ql kLaneNBS Bruce St. F:7,8 ndv w Ave. Burke Ave. I:10-14,19,ZQ Griggs�t. Capitol View H:19,20 Grotto St. Capitol View Cir. H:19 Haddington Road Carlisle Ave. J:17 Hamline A4e. Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Hand Ave. Center St. K:20 Heinel Or. Chandler St. K:,7 Heinel Circle Chatsoiorth � A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Herschel Ave. Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Herschel St. Civic Center Dr. D:12 Highcrest Road Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Hilltop /�ve. �Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 Holton 5"t. Cohansey Blvd. H-J:18 Huron Ave. Cohansey St. E-G:18 Huron St. Colonial Dr. � '�10 Hythe St. Co, c� ,� ,,H:�,10 Iana Cir�le Co�u�i;� ;_ t':._:o}G:�1 5,16 Iona Lane Co�1Rty -Rc�s �1-20 Ione St. County Road B� `� 5-20 Irene Cirele County Ro D:1-2U Irene Court County Ro C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 Irene St. County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Josephi�e Rd. Crescent Lane I:18 Juditth /�ve. Christy Circle E:11 ''"� Karyl Place Dale Court K�S,!,;,r�t i�+. `� Kent St. Dale St. CtL��6 � i-•+. �• a�ce St. Dellwood Ave. C�,I-� :11 �`' akeviear Ave. Dellwood St. E-H:11 �^penteur Ave. Dionne Ave. L:19 Laurie Road Dionne St. L:12,13 Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. 4,11,1� Citt]e Bay Rd. A:17y18 � Kyan �ve_ •5-7,4-13,17 Lang �ake Rd. A-�:3 Sandh�rst Orive 0-1_,14,15,17,19 E, ,L:12 Loren Rd. J:5 Sandy Kook Dr. � :17 I:5,7.8,10-I2,16}18 Lovell Ave. G:13-�6,18 Sextamt Ave. F•9,10,12,15,�6,I8 J:19,20 Lydia Ave. A,B:I,G-I4 Shady Beach K:20 E,H:1 4,yc9 urt A:1 SF�arondale Ave. I:5 A:5 � r# . ty ia Or. A-8:14 Sheld�an St. B,D,F:10 J:5 ��{�1+� � ckub`i� S. C Q,J,L:17 Sherren St. H:11-15 {s A-J:6`�. �_..� ..w �._�_...� sarr�St � � 6:I Shorewmood Cv. b La. A:7 I:2 Mtap �J.arte +•; $:1,7,$,20 Shryem Ave. J:5-7,10-14,16,I7 I:19 l4aple lane Ct. � B:I9 Simpsons St. A,6:9-10;F,J:9 A:19 Karion Ftd. •"'�'' H:3 Skillrnan Ave. 3:5,5,10-12,16920;I_7 B-D,H,L:19 �laridn St. B-I,L:20 S�neiling Ave. A-J•9 F:19 Matilda Circle F:19 5neliung Curv� E-F:9 I-L:il i�itilda 5�. B-O,F,G:19 Snell�ng Serv.Dr. W B-D•8 C-E,H:11 d�eCarron Blvd. M. J:i8-20 ' E:15 F�cCarrt�r� Blerd. S. �,�:18-20 Snellang Serv.Dr�'£' D:9 E-F,I:B l�Carro�ns 5t. B-D,N,K:11 � '�18 � A '� Nidiand Gr�ve Rd. H:� �-��'�'�� • 6:4; G-H:?-4 * . T. �- �-• �H:1-20 �F��9� �� ` Midland Nills Rd. J:3 S.T.N. 36 SdF .,--%►'`G-2-4 B-D,F,L:19 �� E�i�lothian Rd. H-I:8 � 36 ��v�«� H-3-4,7,8,17 K:ll,i2 ,. �7id Oaks Lane b Rd. J*8 y.T. �` "H-J:°1 i-J:19 P�j,�ldred Or. d#,8.6 0. 1� �,��_��,,� St. ��b s St. C�F',G,L:16 A:10 �ilT�od iive. B:?-8�10,i3��`�sr�„�,� i;,, St�,��.o� �G�A':"2 K:17,15 �ilir�ood St. 8.1,19 . _..___.�.._._.,,M S�. Sxephens St. H;2 0 H:6 �ton St. A,H,:lA Stan�ridge Ave. 8:7-8 N:6 Minr�sota �re. 6:2�-20 Stanbriuye St. A:1 G:13-16,18-20 t9�und3viex Ave. J:17 State Farm Road H•9 C,D:I2 �iciunt Ridge Rd. A-D:5 Stuher Road K•16 E-N:15 �,inty P�ace G,N:14 .Starsner St. K:12 H:8 ��rthvi�r St. 8:20 Tal�sman Curve D:10 R-L:10 O�kcrest Rve. E:5-8,11,12,15,�8 Tat�an St. J:6 G,I:29 Oakcrest Lane E:I9 Terminal Road F:1-3 k-D:15-17 Old Nighway 8 A-6:1-2 Terrace Dr_ C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 C-16 Orehard Lane C:i� iophill Circle G:18 E,H:7 Oo�easso Blvd. 5 A-C:16-20 Transii Av�. F:9-14,16-20 J:7 t?.rasso �lvd. S� A-B:ls-16 Troseth Rd. B:1-2 A,B,G,H:1 Oxford St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Victoria St. A-L:14 f�-17 Parker {ive. I:13-15 Virgyraia Ave. C-D-19 F:IO F'artridge Rd. 6:3-a Virginia Circle F:19 K:11 Paseal St. A-F,N-J:10 Nagener Place k;20 C-O:lI Patton Rd. A-B:1 �tagner St. K:17-�9 J:4 pinerrieo�r Ct. K.16 61a7n�t St. E-H•1 G:18 Pri►�rdse Curve 0:30 West Perirr�ter Dr. G:6 C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. B-&,I-J:5 uestern kve. B-K:18 L:11 Prior Circle R:S itestwaod Circie J•4 �;I8 Rambler CAurt D:l� ide�wers Road E:20 F:18 Ran�bler Ra. 0;10 wheatan Ave. D:15-16 E,F,H,I:1$ ttay�sond Ave� A-6:4 I�heeler Rve. E,F-7 B:lY,l2 Rite St. A-L:20 bltieele�r St� A,B,I,J:7 C:10-13,18 Ridg�d La. �i b S J:8 �ti�dQr St. A,I:S I:22 Ridge�od Rd. A:9 William St. I,J:19 B,D,J,L.:1T Roa�a 14ve. L:I1-13,1b,I9 {iiilow� Circle E:11 J:2 Rose place E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 b(illo+� �ane E-11 C,�:i3 3t�se Vista C' L:11 biaodbr:�ge Circle 6:20 l;i1-20 Rase�dale Dr. J:3 lioodbrid e Court L-20 Ff:3,8,12 Ros�iaan Ave. J:2-14,17 ' e St. � I�- t � E�_ " A-1 .12 Rase�ood l,� . iV & 5 J: 3-4 ��.i v��,,,� `�1 g��s-�S ? I.1:12 �u991es �t. 6C�11-13 �odiymrr�4rive'."...__ . �: =20","I3,�T�E;29;20�"' Russell Ct. B:8 t y,t�odry�ff Ave. 8.� a e''._„�s � p �ti �s�Ne��i � . . . . . . . � II�NOVATIVE � � Q � MICROGRAPHICS �� . DUE TQ ��E �'��R CONDITIaN �� THE PRECEEDI NG L��1�11��IT 'WE �ANN�T �F�O�C�I��E AN �C�CEPTA�LE I�I I��C� F i L I�i i�fIAG E.� e � MEMORANDUM September 18, 1985 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren OFFICE HOURS AUGUST 28, SEPTEMBER 4, AND 11, 1985 1. Hancock, Allen and Karla The Hancocks live at 2062 North Lexington on a single family lot with 165 feet of frontage on Lexington Avenue. They propose to divide the lot into two parcels, one of which would be 83 feet, and the other 82 feet. This is a reasonable lot size in this area, and is possible in this case because the house is built on the northerly half of the original lot. We suggest that the development be done with a circular driveway, so as to minimize traffic interference with Lexington Avenue. This can be done through an easement utilizing the existing driveway with circles through both lots, with separate access and egress to Lexington Avenue. 2. Franke, 636-6400 Bill Franke, Attorney, Jim Theusch, and Bob Davidson were in to discuss revised plans for their development proposal for the Swahn Trust Property. They have subst�ntially revised their plan to include an office structure only, whereas the previous plan was offices cambined with "office service" use. The old plan had 186,000 square feet; the new plan has 212,625 square feet. Parking is proposed at five spaces per thousand, with 325 garage and 748 on the exterior, with 1,�73 total. Permanent plans also indicated a four story tower at the northwest corner of the structure. Mr. Franke noted that there is 15 to 18 teet of bad soil on the industrial portion of the site. It appears obvious that the ponding area that remains at the northeast . '� • OFFICE HOURS, August 28, September 4, and Septemk�Pr 11 � � O Page 2 cozner of the site (opposite the entrance from 35W) is but the remainder of a larger pond that occupied the northerly two-thirds of the site. Thus, a substantial tax increment would be necessary, in their opinion, to develop the site. We also discussed the height of the roofs relevant to 35W, noting that the Council is considerably concerned about that esthetic impact. The roofs vary in height, but with the parapet, the roofs can be hidden from the traveling public as they cross the bridge over County Road C. We noted the Council's concern and interest in more intensive development than originally planned, to include a hotel and an office building. We discussed some alternate changes in the site plan, including raising the structure so as to not have it "down in a hole" as relates to County Road C. They are trying to keep the building on one level because of the parking ramp underneath, but the site dictates changing these levels, raising the southerly portion of the building pad. The design has some nice features, though the "tower" will appear only one story above the sloped atrium roofs on the south and east side of the four story section of the building. They are going to consider revisions, so the plan will. be back for further review. 3. Thom son, 332-1234 Milo Thompson, Architect, was in with Ted Davis (Assistant to Milo) and Craig Oberlander, a developer, to review revised plans for their Ebenezer Society Home for the Elderly east of Hamline. This an 11.6 acre site, including the existing Carboni building on the site. The site plans have been revised based on our last discussions, and are quite attractive. The problem is that the structure, as proposed, has elements that are four, five, and six stories high. We suggested this height will be a likely problem with contiguous neighbors. We reviewed past history of the previous three senior citizen sites in Roseville, all of which involved height adjustments to the proposal. They are going to consider revisions to the plan, prior to meeting with the neighbors before the October Public Hearing with the Planning Commission. 4. Igo, 829-0626 Tim Igo proposes to redevelopment the "Precision Tune" building at the northeast corner of Hamline and Larpenteur. He proposes to build a Wallgreen Drug Store on the site with 9,350 square feet plus a 2,000 square f�et mezzanine. Examination of preliminary site plans submitted suggest that the structure is simply too large for the minimal site. Without numerous variances, the parking ratio is far from .1 • � � OFFICE HOURS, August 28 Page 3 September 4, and September 11 that required. We suggested that either the building should be reduced in size, or perhaps the site will not be usable for the intended purpose. 5. Whaley, 488-8207 We discussed the zoning and site plans for the Bob Graham off sale liquor development proposal at the southeasterly corner of Roselawn and Lexington. We know that the limitations on the use of the B-1 district for parking (unless the ordinance is changed), and that the appropriate district under the current ordinance would be B-2. He suggested he and his neighbors would prefer to have B-1 development on the south side of Roselawn, rather than a B-2 development with more parking than which is required. He also discussed the participants in the application, which we suggested were the responsibility of the Police Department and others rather than the Planning Commission. Mr. Whaley owns a large parcel of single family development north of Roselawn (across from the proposal), and thus has some legitimate concerns regarding what and how the property is developed on the site. 6. Calliker, 641-0612 Barbara Calliker, who runs a tanning studio north of Larpenteur, was in to discuss additional signage on a separate pylon for this property. We noted the sign � regulations applying to the structure and the existing pylon sign, suggesting that the addition of a second pylon would likely not meet with positive results. She has signage on the building and on the existing pylon, but would like to have more exposure. 7. Young, 623-2590 Jeffery Young runs a company called Remodeling Concepts, and proposes to do an addition to the Myles Stromberg house at 327 Elmer Street. The addition would be 28 x 20, and involves a minor variance off Elmer Street. We reviewed procedures for minor variance, and noted affected property owners. 8. Bergmann, 488-2957 Ernie Bergmann was in with Ray Timmons, and Ken McWilliams, all of whom are condominum owners in the Parkview Estates Development, westerly of the Group W headquarters in the old Owasso school site. These gentlemen are concerned with an erosion problem re�.ating to some filling material added on the westerly side of the site in the vicinity of the fence. We suggested they work directly with Mark Matthews and Frank Rog, inasmuch as this portion of the site is contiguous to that part of the site used for recreation by the Park and Recreation Department. We talked ta Mark Matthews, who is familiar with the problem, and agreed to work directly with • the neighbors and Frank regarding its solution. f • �J � OFFICE HOURS August 28, September 4, and September 11 � Page 4 9. Swanberg, 645-4246 Barbara Swanberg was in representing Burger King, to discuss the possibility of adding a private crossing on the railroad tracks south of their new site at the southwest corner of Country Road C and Cleveland Avenue. David Drown noted that this crossing could be provided if it is approved by the railroad. This would provide f or access to the site without crossing the median at the north end of Cleveland (south of Country Road C). 10. Brannon, 574-0192 Dorothy Brannon was in again to discuss their proposal for the development of an office building and car wash north of Larpenteur Avenue. We reviewed more specific details relating to the retaining wall, site plan, and access and egress to Larpenteur. This development proposal wi11 be up for a Special Use Permit (for the car wash) at the October meeting of the Planning Commission. 11. Kampe, 633-3004 Steve and Sherry Kampe have a residential property which they propose to develop at the northeast corner of Rosedale and Roselawn Avenue. The property has 100 feet of frontage on Roselawn and a depth of 150 feet, appropriate for a si.ngle family development. 12. Martin 483-7082 Gene Martin and Ed Glickman are looking for a site for a restaurant and entertainment center similar to Ruperts, located on Highway 12 at Turners Crossroads in Golden Valley. Their restaurant plans would emphasize a liquor lounge and dancing area. We noted Ordinance regulations and procedures, and seviewed possible appropriately zoned sites in the City for potential use. Such sites are scarce, although it may be possible with redevelopment of an existing site. They like the Roseville market, and will pursue their objectives further. 13. Dodds 545�-5000 George Dodds, of Edina Realty, was in to discuss the possible use of the single �amily lot at 1126 Sandhurst for potential expansion of parking facilities for the "Auction House" located westerly of the TCF building on County Road B and Lexington. The Auction House apparently continues successful, having auctions on Wednesday nights from 6:0� p.m. to 10:00 p.m. We noted that such expansion of p�rking in a residential area (the lot is now occupied by a single family home) required rezoning, and would constitute an intrusion of a single family space in the north and west. We suggest�d there is no assurance that such a rezoning is possible in the near future. ,� • � � OFFICE HOURS, September 4, � August 28 and September 11 Page 5 14. Simonson 884-7152 Dale Simonson, from Simonson Realty, was in to discuss adding a 4 x 10 foot section to their existing 5 x 10 foot sign on the pylon on the south side of Country Road B, for the shopping center at B and Dale. 1979, and though the buildin The sign was put up in thirty feet from the right-ofpwam�t noted it should be constructed nineteen feet south of the rithtWof-Wapparently for the sign to be expanded to ninet s uare feet Thus hundred square feet is allowed) a varianceqwould have to�be issued. We discussed this proposal with Gordie Beseth, who checked the building records confirming an appropriately issued permit. Installers either placed the pylon sign too close topthe�roadlly or mistakenly 15. Nemo 291-1611 .7oe Nemo and Nisson Mandel are looking for a multi-family housing site in Roseville for townhouse construction of up to six to eight units per building. We discussed appropriately planned sites, develo ment Possible regulations. B�cause of the low occupancypratesucurrently in Roseville (consistently low for the last twenty years), numerous multi-family housing developers are interested in the Roseville area� The problem is that many of the owners of sites appropriately delegated on the land use multi-family housing are owned b P1an for interested in holding and developing for themselvescur�ather than selling to another developer, 16. Nelson 635-785g Bob Nelson has a lot on the southeast shore of Lake Owasso. He proposes a 24 foot x 24 foot addition. The structure is about one hundred feet from the lake. The site plan looks qood, and would require development approval under the shoreline zoning ordinance. 17. Jensen 925-3788 Steve Jensen was in to review for divida.ng the three du lexespa�cedures and requirements site into separate lots, p W� Su pproved on the Ha�kworthy following appropriate easements toeaccom lishrthis methods through a platting process, p Purpose 18. Spear 631-0027 W• F. Spear has owned property, zoned residential, at 2132 North Cleveland for many years at the southeast corner of Cleveland and County Road B. We discussed methods by which he would be able to divide the development for single family homesproperty for additional .� � � • OFFICE HOURS September 4, 19. 20. • August 28, and September 11 Edlund 631-0505 Jim Edlund owns the State Farm Insurance Building at the southwest corner of Skillman and Snelling Avenue. He has had some preliminary plans showing ways in which he could expand the building slightly, and change the provisions. These plans are Parking the architecture on the the originalebuilding.P�We�discussed these plans with David Drown, who noted the impact ot the proposed changes for Snelling Avenue as it relates to the service road on the east side of the structure. We suggested he would be�t do nothing until the service road improvements are accomplished, inasmuch as the proposed changes (in the service road) will impact on his existing parking. Jim Edlund agreed this would be prudent, and will not attempt any changes in parking as he considered doing relating to the future ex�ansion of the building. Hess Roger Hess was back to review alternative removal of portions of his structures and additionfof the new structur� replacing these buildings on the west side of his property. It appears that the new structure will n�t exceed fifty percent of the value of the existing buildings, and thus wi11 not tri and curbing af all the existin driverareasWa�k construction a plan, cuttin the g He showed us 9 proposed expansion in half, which we suggested may not be prudent if he needs �he additional showing moreagaccuratelyVtheQexisrecise drawin s ting site d�velopmentarand the proposal. We suggested he hire some to have the�e drawings prepared, so as to allowSSaonal help and timely review by the Planning Commision and Councilria�e agreed to proceed with this objective. 21. Rohda '774-1359 Dick Rohda and Marta Wade (husband and wife) live at 1001 Woodhill Drive. They propose to add a 14 x 22 foot on the north side of their property. We have re�iewed appropria�e regulations and procedures. 22. Graham Bob raham was in to discuss revisions to his plans for development of his off sale liquor store at Lexington and Roselawn, in accordance with the Council approval. He noted the parking will be established as fort with one driveway on iiosel�wn, and twoYoniXL,exingtanpaceWe discussed an ordinance amendment allowing for parking in a B-1 district for off sale liquor gur ose�. revised plans �� be prepared indicating final dlandscadin�e required screening, provisions for drainage, and ciedication of 16.5 feet of right-of-way on Lexington Avenue. He will have revised plan� prepared for future staff review. � � OFFICE HOURS, September 4, � August 28, and September 11 Page 7 23. Lexeioni 3i2-236-1333 Jim Lexeioni and Ed McNamare were in to discuss remodeling plans for the Victoria Station restaurant on the northeast corner of 35W and Highway 36. They proposed again to put texture 111 plywood skirts on the old railroad cars, and apply aluminum to the sides to make them look like old 1950's trailer houses. We suqgested again, as we did several months ago, that this would be totally inappropriate, and that the City would not approve such construction methods. We suggested the most appropriate solution would be to remove the railroad cars, and build a pe.rmanent structure. They would consider selling the site if they had a buyer. We later learned of a restaurant proposed to locate in Roseville, and reterred them to the Victoria Station people to consider this prospect. The real est�ate agent is Hob Fewster at 800-227-2155. 24. Igo 829-0626 Tim Igo, realtor, was back to review revised plans for the Wallgreen site at Larpenteur and Hamline (now Precision Tune). Though he had no revised drawing, he discussed a px�oposal reorienting the building. We sketched this concept plan, with the result that the parking appeared to be grossly inadequate. 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J:5-3,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15927,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,15,18 K:20 I:5 B4O,F:10 k:ll-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-I4,16,17 A,B:9-10;F,J:4 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:S A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:2-4 G-FE :1-20 G-2-� H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 8:7-8 A:1 k:9 K:I6 K:IZ D:10 J:6 F:I-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-I9 E-H:1 G:b B-K:18 J:4 E:20 0:15-16 E,F:7 A,S,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:lI E:11 6:20 l:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-I0,23,14,19,20 K:18 � MEMORANDUM DATE: 2? August 19�5 T0: Jim Andre FRaM: How�rd Dahlgren REs �ffie� Hours, J�ly 31 and A�ugust 7 1. �5�ke-s, 9�5-016Z. Bob Sykes gn�! �layrte Jesk�. Bob �Syk�s i� a�rot'Sss�r of L�nd�a�p� Arahi�eoture �t the Universi�y o�` Minngsat� and �aa in w:i�h Wayn� Je�k�o �n arch��e�� irA�n Art Di�key's aPiiee� wha are designing � ho�i$ for Ger�rd CaPesjSa�, wha is a Vic��Fr�esiden� for t�ark�ting and ��le� �'ram We�t �ubli�hing Campany. Thfs harae is on t�e � �outh+w�st �horg of Lake Josept�i�� o�n a► .6� aor�e �i�e. This hau�e will be oo��truGt�d on thre� ledels with 5,U00 squ�ra f�Qt a�' �pa�e and i� propms�d ta be la��ted s�v�nt�-five feeC b�ok from th� ��or��in� a� required, 'The�r ari.11 be s+�eking shor��line apprava�l but war�� o place a i"our��ar� by fourt�gr� foot gaxebo in �he ar�� b�twe�n �h� house a�r�d th� �hor�. Th�y al�o w�n� to p1�o� �n �ntrar�ae ��te, whieh w��.l be ir� line wiGh a tw��va �o �'i!"t�en foot htgh row lil�a shr�bs �t the ironG property lin�. Th�e is an exe�ptlon�lly fine house �nd will b� ar� attr�otive add i� i4n t4 th� � i ty . W� r��v ie►��d s4me e�h��ges in ��te p1�n r��.�tin� to the st�ps wt�f.�h go dawn the �a�t s�d� o�' �� pr�operty lirre. Thesa steps �r� �l.lowed within Lhe ten foo� ��tba�k area (th� hausa's prop�rty setb��k c�n �aoh sid� �ith ��n foot required sid� yardsi. Mde di�Quased pro�e�ur�s �r�d require�n�nt� i'or th� variafln�s in th� �horelin� approval. 2. Dunr►. A1 ("Aee") Dun� was in to disauss his �ervie� station v�er�atior� �nd Paailities a� Gh� s4uth�a�t eorner of Larpent�ur and Le�ci�g�on. A1 ha� bsen in �he serviQe station busin�s� fc?r ni��een years and ha� a two-bay sta�ion bui�.t in 1931. This statfor� w�s �'ormerly own�d by K��h and wae sold to Al last ye�r. The sta�ion is boundsd an the east and the sauth by the Bob Graham ofF-�sale l�quor� stor� propasal sahich will be ooming up to r.h� � Planning Commi.ssion and Council for review in Sept.ember. �Ie asked Aee �a eome in so that we could diseus� possible OFFICE HOURS, JULY 31 AND AUGUST 7 Page 2 � � � ways in which he could gain more p�rking space in conjunction with the Graham proposal. His site is small and also contains a 96of sthe„site�t Having fbeen� built iin an the easterly side 1931, the station is noneonforming in many respeet but, as built, h�s a�equate area f'or the reyuired parkir�g for the �tatiAn and the office building. Ace expressed no desire to purchase additional pr9perty from Graham, who has moHe land than he needs for the size of his building. stat�� he �i�p�Y o�ethin � in theifutu�ethis time but may wi�h to consider s 8 3d �od�erb�rg, ��7-12��• Johr� Soderberg is contemplatin$ purcha�ing the tao t�enty-twd unit multi�famil�r struetur^es r�ear the nor�thea�t� corner of trio Harm�r sitie. John was inquiring about �he possibility a�' add�ng garages to the s�te, W�i�h �ppE�r� �° It� is�obv ious ��h�G dditiona�f �.and very s�ma��l si�e area� for� i�npr+�ve�ent of the b��caommoda�ed iby dd ngt som��land of ga�$Qes) could b�st i'ror� the Mar�n�r s i�e . 4. Jai��an -u$�-„o2,�#�!. Beth and 6ruce Jahnso� 9�a�e th�ir lo� ��,zb Mir�ne�ot� Av�nu� wPti�h �� proPo�ed for a lr�� di�i9ian in �canj�neti�or� �+ith Cheir n�ig�bori'� lot o�r��d by E�d�n L�hl�m. Thf� d3vi�l�r� u�ing the so�th�rly portion c��` th� +�x�sting �dt� �� near�f��u �,�k�`b2� so�utior,� wh i ch t.l��y cn�y propo�� . Po � ? �-88�,�1 b H�b ��Pf i�i�n� � �A�st�ura�n� ��n � Falcon o�'� L��' ��gr � rest�ur�nt north �1` NQi��:�, �rho propo�� G� bu! ld � n��a Ml�w�y �'ard or� ��nd n�� nd r�o�arRiga��o ld s�at� 2 5 u�i�h t,�wr� t �k . Th� rg�t�ura �p�ce r�a� i50 b�r�quc�t �e�t� ic� th� l�wer l�ve1. Th� �it� h�� s�r��ou� pr�bl�m, �a��v�r, in �^ cnuah �� r�ar pa�ti4n� af �h� �it� w�r� � pondin� ar�a subs�squ�r��ly fill�d. iG is esti�at�d tha� th� cost to cur�e tho l�nd wou�d b� �pproxim��y $150�,OOQ. Cr�i.g '��l�rgn r�vie�r�d the pertential �mp�ct ot` L�x inc��raent pr�ceduc�c�s, whioh i�� tl3is c��Q �pp��r �r b site�enl�n� and� di c�us:�Qd��possibl� r�vi�w�d pr�limina y N r�Iaca�ion Qf a�hir��y fo�t �a;st w��G ro�dway ��ement, whi�h �c��s to k.h� S�vi�wCtl�e�ar�� m�nttqu�sGion�wii:h�the They ►��i e �oing t� r� effect�d landowners �o saa if it cou�.d be plao�d on th� �outiti line �f �h� property wher� it would be more appropriate to sarve th� land to the we�t more �fPieien�.ly. David Drown di�eus�8d the rea�on th� eity could build a facility if" it wer� d publie str�et. 6. Hafner 78-2�',��.• A1 Hafner was in wiCh an attorney Steven Thul to review his sixtee �� ic mmunitytwest�of 2.2 acre site �outh of the mobile h • OFFICE HOURS, JULY 31 AND AUGUST 7 Page 3 � � L� Lexington. A1 has taken over this project from Joan and proposes to sell i t as conuos ( some a�1� eam Y�th 1� current would have a service fee of $83 P estimate by A1). The site plan will remain the same as previously approved but with the driveway now on private property. 7. Barnum, 57�-Q�_92• Scott and �orothy Barnum propose to construct a new story structure with offices on the top and car wash bslow on the north side af Larpenteur, easterly of Lexington. They will be moving the existing structure. The land is contiguous to th� Ramsey County hold ing pond on the ee sr 'to work ewell��if t ey �can �reclaim plan which would app enough of the property on the �asterly side of the property (nearest the pnnd) thraugh the construction of r�taining walls. We auggested they prepare more detailed engineerfng and �ite plans with partieular emphasis on the �as� an� fea�ibility�sQ f istha pecia�. d use t inni the �8�3 construc�lon. The Distriet. The l�nd is now zoried 8-3• 8�. Surl.orck, y3��7�'��• �ob �urlarcic is with Suburban Lighting �nd w�s i� to di�cus� the ttiand�ing of signage for �he �,�� x�,co Station �t the northwe�t corner �e Lexingt4n anc! �.�rp�nteur ( 16�1 North r��9agtO but the �uG�Q�uently revi��a�d tt�e signing P P bui�din� i.r�sp�etor� th�n eonaJ.ud�� th� sign proposed on the struatur� ��nfarmed to ardinance r�qutrem�n'ts. �. ��.a}y��! 6t��_�1390 9�ob Graha��a w�� b�ck w�ith more d�finitiv� pl�n� for t�� roposed �f�`-�a�e �fqu�r stor°� He th� sou��e�►�t Gorner of LBxington �nd Ro��awno pr4p��s � 9�100 squ�r� E'aot building (70 t�y 130), whieh wili b� ocau�iQd by � liquor s�or� only. Twenty�six par'k ing sp��ce� ��a�� i�ea �there �s f i f�y-thre� �paces ar� propo�Q�. we diseuss�d dr�ina�e and engin��ring req�lr��nen�s w�i�h ��vid �rown. Th� buflding and site, as prop�ssd, r�quir�s no variano�� nd wiil, in fact, have mor� p�rking thAn r�quired �rhic� bri�gs up th� possibilfty aF �omQ p�rkin� b��n� �lloc�t�d �� Ace's Service Station, ff Chat o�n b� wet�k�d out, Thfs praposal wiii b� b�fo�e the pl.�nr�in� Commisslon �nd Cauncil i� September. 10. Thompson, 332--12�4► Marlow Thomp�on, Architeetq wa� in with Ted Davi�, one oF his assi9��nee, ar�d BrweQ Gnldstein (�8v�l�p�r) to rev�ew a QroposQd dEvelopm�nt of a s�nior Citiz�ns nr�oject on tche multi-fami�.y housing site now owned by C�rboni. The site is proposad For approximately 242 units, of whieh forty-�Wu�,ehase �yisBruee tGoidsteir�i Agar�m�nt, which i� befr�� A The propos�l is for 130 indQor parking spaees, Ther� wauld be �pproximately 6Q p�rcent one bedrooms and �0 pereent two bedraoms. This would be a market rate proj�et � • � OFFICE HOURS, JULY 31 AND AUGUST 7 Page 4 � � managed by the Ebenezer Society. We reviewed preliminary plans, offering some suggested changes relating to access and relationship to the existing development. The existing surface garages on the site would be removed. We feel this development will constitute a major improvement to the site. We suggested they work closely with the contiguous neighbors to the south who will be most direetly affeeted. 11. Quigley, 881-5072. Steve Quigley is with RAX. He proposes to add eighteen seats to the restaurant by the construction of a solarium on the east side of the structure. They would add approximately eighteen parking spaces through a revision to the parking layout. We discussed details of the revised parking arrangement whieh they will consider. 12. Hunt, 712-297-7571. Hunt of Hunt Trucklines is purchasing the old Terminal at County Road C and F'airview. This will involve moving his headquarters from Iowa and the movement of twenty-five employees to the city . We reviewed zoning and development requirements, whieh pertain to possible future changes to the site. 13• Thompson, 332-1234. Marlow Thompson was baek with Goldstein and Craig Oberland to review their revised plans for the Ebenezer site on the Carboni property off Hamline Avenue. The plan has been revised in accordance with our previous diseussions and now ineludes 222 units of which forty-two exist in the old building. One hundred forty-eight parking spaces will be under the structure with 75 spaces on the surface equaling 223 spaces. This one for one ratio we feel will be more than adequate for a senior citizens project. One bedroom units will vary from 625 feet to 700 feet and the two bedroom units will vary from 800 to 975 square Feet. Forty pereent will be two bedroom units. Marlow has met with the fire marshal regarding fire equipment aceess. The plan has been revised to ereate a very desirable open space in the center of the project orienting north taward the ponding area, which wi11 be preserved. Phase One will be development of the easterly portion. The buildings vary from three to six floors in height. We stress the impor�ance of working closely with the neighbors to the south, as well as the organization of the massing of the structures to minimize height impaet on the single family neighborhood to the south and southwest. The park then is contiguous to the property on the immediate west. They are going to consider additional design changes and be back for review preliminary to the submission to the Plannir.g Commission and Couneil in September. � • � OFFTCE HOURS, JULY 31 AI�D AUGUST 7 Page 5 14. Berg, 3�0-45�$• Berg and Steve Smith are looking for a commercial car wash and gas sales site in Roseville which will require an estimated 55,000 square feet of land. We reviewed the City Land whicha the�e are ta f few. p Wenalso property zoned sites, of discussed ordinance requirements and procedures. 15. Labristo, 228-6922• John Labristo and Jon Oppt were back to review site plans and provisions for access for the new Lidos in Roseville off Lexington Avenue. We diseussed in some detail with David Drown and Craig Waldren the possibilities for tax increment funds for soil improvements and provisions for an east west public road to the Space Center properties to the wes�. It is agreed that a location to the south side of the property would be most appropriate (contiguous to Midway Ford). Methods for acquiescence of land and construction involving a publie street were reviewed. A subsequent meeting will be held with the property owners involved to review costs and funding methods. 16. Carlson Carlson owns a single family property on Lake Owasso, southeasterly of Owasso Boulevard and proposes to build a garage on the northwesterly side of his residenee. In this area of the lakeshore this is a common procedure because of the nature of the terrain. He proposes to construct a deck between the house and the garage and we noted that if this deck is roofed and constructed with eross footings the garage becomes a part of the house and is allowed under the code without variance. Thea amino�r to proceed with this change. Tn this way, variance can be considered for the location of the garage (five feet from the side property line) preliminar Thts shoreline develapment approval by the Counci . i provides an exc�llent sOabilit of�thiselotte and wi�l substantially improve work Y 17. Franke, 636-6400. Bill Franke, Attorney, was in with �ob Davidson, Jim Theusch, and Tim Nelson to review revised plans for ar� office structure on the Swahn property at the northwest eorner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. We had reviewed preliminary plans emphasizing the need for more intense development (originally planned as a hotel and major office building) for this site. We suggested that at least the addition of a tower to the two-story development proposed. We suggest this tower most logically be located at the northerly part of the site, at the site orient to the southeast toward County Road C and Long Lake Road. They are going to review market potential and changes to the plan disc ssed thebackrequestdforl�tax consu1tation. We also increment financing with Craig Waldren. U � OFFICE HOURS, JULY 31 AND AUGUST 7 ' :- • 18. Erickson, 920-4666. Harold Erickson is an engineer wi.th HNTB Howard, Needles, Tamen, and Bergendorf) engineering consultants who are preparing revised plans for construction of ball fields on land to be leased by the Sperry Company from the Space Center. The plan now contains two ball fields, one with a 265 foot base line and one with a 275 foot base line. The entire site would be finished with play fields and/or grass, and includes a pathway system to the Sperry structures to the west. We previously suggested that this plan can be reviewed directly by the Council and the consideration of the length of time the facility is to be used may be a matter of coneern. 19. Nelson, �483-3402. Nelson was in to review with the staff the status of the structure at the southeast corner of County Road D in Fairview. We noted that the existing structure is nonconforming and can continue to be used as such, but if the improvements are made whieh ehanges it to conforming, status will be required depending upon the extent of sueh ehanges. 20. Wier, 5�1-1000. Wier, Developer, was in with Erie Neseth, • Doug Fredrickson, Bruce Jolley, and Steve Bassett to review preliminary plans for the redevelopment of the land west of Cleveland and east of 35 W. The preliminary plans indicate an approximation of 224,000 square feet of offices and 397,000 square feet ot' office service buildings. Office service buildings would be 50 to 75 percent offices. We reviewed the overall layout and discussed alternate methods of providing aecess to the property. We emphasized the need for study considerations opposite the single family homes on the north end of Cleveland Avenue (south of County Road D on the east side). They had suggested the pair of office buildings at the north end of �he site, which we suggested could be larger than proposed. We also diseussed the larger scale development �f offices on the Garret Truck site at the south end of the property here. We discussed preliminary aceess standards with David Drown and suggested that they hire a traffic consultant to review trip generation factors relating to roadway widths and geometries at intersections. We also diseussed the tax inerement impaet with Craig Waldr�n. They will be back with revised plans in subsequent weeks preliminary to noramal application procedures. � 'I N OI N � a� 2 .�i 3 NI � u� � � o " � � �� 6 �I 7 � � o E _I 8 � � a o _f� � � : �.w� � .� �, =� 9 -I ro � e � �I - �z �I i3 �� ✓ 3,zo itMK . �o. .o. -o- __Q_-- ��—� �� 't�. /., ' p 14 � 15 �� 16 el 17 nI 18 � I9 «I 20 = ��eMM ^ ro. 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Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View C Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats4iorth Churchill St. Civic Center D Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Com.merce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. �flionne St. ir. r. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:I6 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 B:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,I0 6:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-i,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-L:11 E-H:11 L:19 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. ETmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Nilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. . Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Rve. Laurie Road Lexin Ave. Lind�. J:�,4,11,13 J:6 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J : 2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K_11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,0:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:11,12 C:IO-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 1;11-2U H:3,8,I2 A-L:12 I,t:12 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Dr. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle h1at7 � �'� St. Mcf'ar. �n Blvd. N. DicCarron Blvd. S. McCarrons St. Midland Grove Rd. hlidland Hills Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mid Oaks Lar�e 8 Rd. Mildred Dr. Millwood Ave_ Millwood St. Milton St. Niinr�Fsota �ve. Moundsview Ave. Mc�unt Ridge Rd. Nancy Place Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. S Owasso Blvd. W Oxford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridge�,�ood La. N & S Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Roselawn Ave. Rosewaod La. N & 5 Ruggles St. Russell Ct. a:27,18 A-F:3 J:5 G:13-I6,18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-6:14 C O,J,L:17 B:1 6:1,7,8,20 6:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 B-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,6:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 �:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-0:5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-�:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 D:10 B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-6:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 4 - 13 Ryan Ave. Sandhurst Orive Sandy Hock Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.H. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St_ Albans Si. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbri�ge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Raad .Sumner St . Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth P,d. Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Yirginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Willow Circle Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Waodbridge Court Woodbriage St. Woodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive kloodruff Ave. �:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,I6,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 N-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 0:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-0:19 F:19 � k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-Z4,17-1 A:9=10,13,14�20 lC:18 � � •� • � � MEMORANDUM DATE: T0: FROM: RE: 28 August 1985 Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Office Hours Memo, August 1u and 21, 1985 1. Dunwell, 483-6701. Tom Dunwell was back with revised plans for the expansion of the parking at the Golden Age Nursing Home site. T'hey currently have forty-two spaces. The new plan will provide for sixty-five spaees. The spaces are mueh needed, as evidenced by the parking that is oecurring on Alfred Street. The proposal is supported by the Blombergs who are allawing some of the parking to oecur on a small portion of �heir land. This will require a legal agreement between them, including easement aecess rights off the private street to the north, whieh serves as aecess to the parking lot. The application will be proeessed through the Planning Commission and Couneil becaus� of the need for variances to the parking �etbaek requirements. 2. Merz, 926-2646. Steve Merz is wiCh Weis Builder�s out of Rochester who are building the Pavilio� Place shopping center projeet. They are running in�o problems wi�h the planting plan for the Williams 8rothers pipeline easement north of their progerty. He desires that certain trees specified in the landscape plan be replaced with species less likely to cause problems to the pipeline. They propo�e to tak� out twelve Norway Maples and substitute sixteen tre�s of three other species. There may be some addational changes in the berming proposal because of the depth of soll of the pipe whieh is, according to their agreement, not to exeeed six feet. In some places i*., appears to vary from ten to eleven Peet, aecording to their infdr�nation received from Williams �rothers regarding the depth of the pipes at various poin�s. Steve �lso noted that they are willing to add a five foot berm on the east side of the building with the dirt to be provided by the city as revi�wed wi�h David Drown. We noted that any significant ch�anges in landseaping would • C� '� OFFICE HOURS, August 14 and 21, 1985 Page 2 • �� have to involve neighborhood approval but that the substitution of the sixteen trees for the twelve Norway Maple can be done without a rehearing process. Significant changes could be handled by written consent of the contiguous neighbors, or the city member involved with an affected neighbor's meeting to insure no misunderstanding among the neighbors as to the final p1an. 3. Julen, 633-�193. Julen owns a properly zoned duplex at 305 Shorewood Lane, whieh was approved for division into two lots on April 30, 1975. Division was never aceomplished, Y�owever, and a re�::ent survey shows the division line to be slightly different than orfginally approved. We suggested a processing of a new division proposal if he wishes to proceed toward that ob�eetive. 4. Lido's, 22�-6922• Scott, representing Slowi�k�sy Larry Bareuet, representing the Space Center, and John Libristro, from Lido's, met with �s regarding the handling of an east west road from Snelling Avenue to the Space Center property (the old Glendenning Freight Lines site). David Drown and Craig Waldren reviewed with them the implications of the possible use of th� tax increment fund and the city construction a publie improvernent to build a road on the fifty foot right-of-way (rather than the �hirty faot easement originally proposed). David noied th�t the public street could be built later, if t�e right-of-way is aequic^ed now. The questian of who would pay for the road was reviewed, whieh a�ould principally benefit the Spac� Center properti�s. Larry Bareu�t was going to get back to us regar�ing the possible pasi�ion of �is company relating to their interest in the publia stre�t sy�tem �oneept. Under this arrangement, it is proposed tha� �he right-of-way �tould be aequirsd by the city as a part of the publie im�rovemer�t pro��ct. It is agreed tha� this aecess to the Space C�nter praperty w�ould open it up for muGh gr�axer pot�ntial. 5. Mloen. Moen wa� in with Tom Stahl, Archit�et, to diseuss the development of an auto-oriented servi�e eenter north and northwest�rly of �he McDonald's si�e on Snelling Avsnue. It w3s a proposal se�veral years ago approved by the city for the removal of the sma11 res�aurant and the development af two buildings on the site. Yau wi].l. not� that this was not done because of what th�y eonsid�r to be the excessi�ve cost of ch�nges on Snelling Avenue. These chang�� ci ��Ylar�s ar� now b�:�ng accomplished as a part of MN/DOT's Snelling Avenue Improvement Progra►n. He wili prepar� som� pr�limi�nary concepCs for more intensi�e use of the land within the existing zoning constraints. � OFFICE HOURS, August 1�4 and 21, 1985 Page 3 • 6. Moses, 920-5605. Terry Moses was in to diseuss their attempts to put together the homesites easterly of Pavilion Place whieh contains twenty-two houses and involves 8.5 acres. Waldren reviewed the city's tax increment policies and potential. Terry Moses noted that, at the moment, they seem to have seventeen homeowner's in agreement to sel�. and five in limbo or against. We expressed our coneerns regarding aecess and egress and as it relates to access ehanges in the future on Snelling Avenue. The economies of putting this property together are considerably more di�'ficult than the Loman's Plaza site, which involved seventeen homes with 13.5 aeres. 7. Lankinen. Wayne Lankinen lives at 757 Sandhurst Drive wt�ieh is just easterly of the proposed housin� development at the southeast corner of Highway 36 and Victoria. We reviewed with Wayne rules under whieh this 221 D-�{ Mortgage Revenue Bonding Program works. Twenty ereent of the units are offered to earn as ineor�e within �0 percent of the Metrop�litan median ineome. We were able to slaow that �he�e income levels did not represent what he �nd, appar�ently, som�e of his neighbors fear. They are, in f�ct, market rate housing �nd these rates wer� reviewed � with Mr. Lankin8n who is quite an el�derly man and has liued in th�e ar�� for a very long time. We suggested that he convey th�s infor�at�on to his neighbors. 8. Beseth. We reviewed wi.th Cordy Be�se�h cone�rns regarding �he handling of a temporary sign9 for t�� property at the sou+thw�st corner of County Raad C2 an� L�ng Lake. Prairie Eyent signs ��e provide� for in the ordfnano� to the m��cirou�n of two per ye�r with a minimum of nin�ty days b�tueer� �emp4rar°y sign plaeemerat. Loaf bannars are prohibit�d thou�lY, in some caseg, these may be more appr�opriate for short Lerm event sigr�age. �,t appe�rs that some clarification of te�nporary sign policy �nd r�egulation b� helpful. 9, Lund. Lund was in to disau�s �► propos�d seeond pylon �si�n at th�4r pr�op�r�y on the wes� side of Fairview where �ha frontage af �he bui].ding is a�cupied t�y a Sony and St�ven'� Off-sale Giquor StQre. These two busin�sses shara the ex�sting �y�on and Cliff is coneerned about a ��Cond pylor� to fden�ify �he r�es� of the users �o �h� west �ide of th� building. Wg suggest8d tl�at addir�g a sec�nd pylon would e��ablish a serinu� �r�cedent. We r�viewed with Cliff � met�aod whereby signag� could bQ added to the building on th�e n�rtheast corner �o as to �r��ic�� i��Lity without adding a second pylon sign. f�e is goin;q t� review � this idea with hi� p�ople. 10. �ur�d, 631-9113. Lunc�'s geople have an office �ervice people south of the tracks on County Road C at �g28-4� West County Road G. There are �leven tenan�s is� the "� OFFICE HOURS, August 14 and 21, 1g85 Page 4 . � �� building and they propose to put a pylon sign closer to the north property line similar to other businesses along this strip. We reviewed regulations and requirements and Mr. Lund may proceed with a sign location varianee. 11. Wier, 5�'1-1000. Wier and some of his staff and arehitects were back• to review more precise preliminary plans for the redevelopment oP the land west af Cl�veland, east of 35W. Constructive changes have been made ineluding a pair of office buildings in the southerly portion of the si�te, six to eight stories in height. They have rearrar�ged �he aeeess �nd parking, a� w� discussed previou�ly, whieh �eems to work well. The struetur� could be bu�lt ir� two stages, with ramp parking for the seeond sta$�. We also revised tha development for the north end t� inelude a Rair o� offic� buil.din�s. The first phas� of d�velopment would likely b�gin at the north end, with th� �outherly �ite with the more intense potential being the las�. We reviewed soane aspects of' th� ta�c inerement distriet with Craig Waldren and David Drown� We r�oted th�C �he d�sirability of p�Qparin� illustr�tive drawfn$� and mnre preeise tax increr�ent n�mber� for, perhaps, in�'ormal r�view by the ci�y prfor to Formal applieation�. The Porm�l application may be tim� f'or th� O�tober m�eCing oP tiha Planning Cemmission. 12. Brama, 636-9511. Brama is an apartment builder lookin� far site� in Raseail�e. t�e revisw�d a number n�' patential possibilitie�, �lang with th� city'� pr�e�dur�� ane� req�ir�ments. 13. Ri�hgc�Zs, 2_41-88g1J. Rf,�hgeAs �r►d 'D�a� Longe�'ie�.d� was in �o revfe�r a sligh� modiP�c�tic�n in their pl�n for th� d�v��opmer�t af t,�Q �nwnhau�e� at the �outhea�� orner o£ Eiighw�y 36 and V�ctoria. Division f�r �dditiorial t�aen�y-fo�r parki�g �pa►ce� �n�i in�lud�� ar� �os�ping �i' �h� w�ter sy�tem a� r�quired by ��e eity. l�e no�t�� k,he 20 per�ent ineome lev�l �o be �0 p�rcent ai` �32,�300� a matC�r previou�ly diecus�ed r�ith htr. {.ankir�en. Tw� af the uni�� have be�n drapped b�ek t'urther a�tay t'rom the neighbors, ere�ting a Z�r�e��° oper� spae� which, thorough a minor ad,justmen�, improves th� p1ar�, Ti�e �stimatad �125��Ofi t'or land pr�p�ration and water ma�n �oopfng, whict�, �r�s re�vi�w�d with Craig Waldren as for �onsid�ration in �h� tax incrsment progr�m pr^opo�ed f'or this site. 1�1. M�od.y� 53b�03�0. Ro��r Moody ar�d .T�m p�ipce F�o�a Rosedal� Chevrol.�t w�ra in to diseuss �he possfble vaeation of County Raad C2 right-of-w3y wes�erly nf 35W. Thi� idea had be�n discussed with them s�veral years ago �nd they now ar� �nte�es�ed in pur�uing it. We noted �he rules under whieh such righ�-of-way ean be m�de availabl� and that the city sees no signifieant reason for retaining �he right-of-way (once acq�ired for overpassing 35W). r�� } � �� e OFFICE HOURS, August 1u and 21, 1985 • Page 5 noted that the Mack people to the north were no� interested in the right-of-way unless it could t, purchased or acquired for nothing. Jitn and h',Qger indicated that they would like to acquire this prop�erty and we nated the procedures under which this could be done. We suggested they may wish to consult an attorney and proc�eed with initial st3ges of the process for both eity and MN/DOT approval of �h� vae�tion pr�oeeedings. 15. Haekworthv, 430-i500. C. R. Hackworthy was in to di�euss ehanges in Jim Trapp's property at the northwest oorn�r �f Long L�ke Road ar�d Courrty Road C2. fihis i� th� si.te whgre Jim Trapp has op�rate� � truck cl�aning faeility for wany years an� was a sp�eial permit iasu�d �+a him �'or ia�prov�ro�nts y�ars �go � �1� r�aie�r�e� �he f i 1� r�l�ttng tca the difCiculties ira accoc�plishi,n� th� cr�r�di�ions w�ti�h were �tt�ehed to the �p��i�� ug� perm�t i'or tt�,t� �fLe. So�� o�' th��e eQnditians have y�t ta be ao�pl��ed. Mr. Haeirworthy noted Mr. i'r�pp�� nt ta t��r down pa�°tior��s of the b�il��g �nd r�pla�� ear with n��► s�ru�tur�� a�d t� d�velop �nd r�dQvc�lop Lt�e sit� p��per��+ this t�a�e. i�e nat�d that a n�a ,�pe�i�l +�sa permit �rould h�v� t� be pro��d unc�er the�� e i r�cur��t�n�a� �nd th�t i� �o�u�.� 5� �mpar�ant �o pr�p�ra �pprQprlate ��11-�do�u��r��d pl�t� �o �o�omp,�r�y any �'ur�h�r d�a�iops�$nt of th� prs�p�rEy. Landsc��in�, ��rbir��, et�., �nd �thar 1�pr�c�v��Qn�� rapas�d pr��iau�ly-_thi� �ite f� ir� ne�d of rat��l�-dora� r�d�avelopmer�t . �t� sCr��c�d �h� i�por��r�c� ��' cer��iu�l pL�nning for t1�i� �it� ��d docum�nt�tlo� �'t�r spec��"i� i�aprov�a��r�t� ir� v�� nf th� ��c ��cpQri�r�o� Wf�h th� ai�y o� th� propr�rity. t6. Ti�a�Qs��3��-t231�. Thorap�c�n ►�a� !n with hi� ��t�nct�, �`�d U�v f�� t� r�v�c�� r�v ��d pi�ra� Po� �h� �b�ng��r ��rly praj�ct �n GP�� Qld C�rb�n� �it�s. T'h� �it� p,l�r� h�� a��sn r�vi�ed naw lr�di��Cir�� ta�m� s�i ��1 r��i�s wi�h 22S pat°k�ng �p��, of �rhf�i� 153 wil,� b� ��c�1e�+�d. P�rtic�n� ��' t�Q bui�di�� ,�r� C'ide s�orias hi�h �nd �M�a a'�m�fr�de� is ��war ��xi�ti�n� s��ru��ure� i� �l�r�� tari�� high�. Und�� e new ��r��ur��P �her�� wau�.d b� � iu�ll flc�or� pa�°kin� �n th� lower� Iear�l. The uni�s �ould h�a �pproxima��ly 50 p�rcen� �� b�dre�c�m ar�d �� per�er�t twa bad�oom in the ftrsC ph��@ ahieh r�Quld o�eur o� the o�st�rly por�ian of the sit� And would in�lud� th� r�mor��ling of the Qxi��ir�g s�r,uetur� g�d th� r�moval of th� aV--��a�� ar��e b��,idinps now on �.h�a �outh��sterly p�rtion of the siCe. We fe�l this propo�al is �araing a1pn� wellx Tha�► tZ�v� me� wi�h th� nei��bors on t6�e ��uth and, appar°ently, haue hsd � rather goc�d ree�ption. Th� structures t�ave gabl�d roofs with a diatinct colonia�l flavor �nd, with th� variety i� story height in the building, iG appears to fit well into the land�c�pe, Tax increment procedures and r�qiairements were r��riewed with Craig Waldren, as we11 as drainage and �ngineerir�a with � C� '� August 1u and 21, 1985 Pag� 6 OFFICE HOURS, � David Drown. The planning area pWthe cityeasiproposeduin reshaped, and may be dedicated t the eomprehensive plan• 17, gra____n,wnon. Dorathy and Rodney Brannon were in witia�gbgor Baker� Arahit�et, to review revis�d prelic�inary p th� Qoc�strue'tion of �heir affi�gHa lin� ng This aland ais do�rn on Garpent�ur, ea�terly o xon�d �-3 for whi�h a Bp�C�� 8n pinolud�� lo�ore detailed for the aar r�a�h • The � i te pl delinestior� of the ret�ining w�ll �� r ested t ey dster�nine ea�terly par�ion oP the si�e. �e �� the c�o�t �f �he r�t�aini.ng ��li�`�bla to �expa �d �the �use�o� iP th�t 4t is �aonomiaally ��as th� �i�t� in �hls Way. i�� 1�o r�vi�a�d �h� �►ppl�aation r�quir�roe�� d pr�Q��ures. �.� � � o o ' �I � N 3120 s� na ec � rn. •o. F� � �� [�Y � A 5 5 � ,. I � F 3000 t�� '�� ' . � < � , � B � _ ' `� � � , L C ) � . r z. 760 / � \ � D � , 26w __.� ca � �� E � � _— :sso " •'•` F I� i � 1 � 2400 *u.��u .o I� ., � .. 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B:11 Belmont Lane I:10,11,16 � Bismarck Ave. G:19 Bossard Dr. H:18 Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Brenner Court A:2 Brenner St. A:1 Brdoks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Brooks Circle F:19 Bruce St. F:7,8 �urke Ave. I:10-14,19,2Q Capitol View H:19,20 Capitol View Cir. H:19 Carlisle Ave. J:17 Centennial Dr. C:7,9,10,18 Center St. K:20 Chandler St. K:17 Chatsriorth A,B,F,G,J-L:13 Churchill St. A,C,D,F:13 Civic Center Dr. D:12 Clarmar Ave. A:9,10 Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;�6 Cohansey Blvd. H-J:18 Cohansey St. E-6:18 Colonial Dr. G:10 Commerce St. H:9,10 Cope Ave. G:15,16 County Road B H:1-20 County Road B2 F:5-20 County Road C D:1-2U County Road C2 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 County Road D A:1-7,12-16 Crescent Lane I:18 Christy Circle E:11 Dale Court K:16 Dale St. C-L:16 Dellwood Ave. C,I-�:11 Dellwood St. E-H:11 Dionne Ave. L:19 Dionne St. L:I2,13 Dr3per <� Drape.:- e Duniap S . Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwond St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. �Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel .ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. •Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Ave. Lindy Ave. �:3,4,21,13 J:6 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-�:11 C-E,N:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,0:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:5,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 6:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 1;11-20 H:3,8,I2 A-L:12 I,t:12 Little Bay Rd. Long Lake Rd. Loren Rd. Lovell Ave. Lydia Ave. Lydia Court Lydia Or. Mackubin St. Manson St. Maple Lane Maple Lane Ct. Marion Rd. Marion St. Matilda Circle Matilda St. t4cCarron Blvd. N. McCarron Blvd. S. McCarrons St. Midland Grove Rd. Midland Nills Rd. Midlothian Rd. Mid Oaks Lane 8 Mildred Dr. Millwood Ave. Millwood St. Milton St. MinrFsota A�e. Moundsview Ave. Mount Ridge Rd. Nancy P7ace Northview St. Oakcrest Ave. Oakcrest Lane Old Highway 8 Orchard Lane Owasso Blvd. S Owasso Blvd. W Oxford St. Parker Ave. Partridge Rd. Pascal St. Patton Rd. Pineview Ct. Primrose Curve Prior Ave. Prior Circle Rambler Court Rambler Rd. Raymond Ave. Rice St. Ridgewood La. N Ridgewood Rd. Roma Ave. Rose Place Rose Vista Ct. Rosedale Dr. Raselawn Ave. Rosewood La. N Ruggles St. Russell Ct. i� &S & 5 R:�8 A- J:5 G:13-16,18 A,6:1,6-14 A:1 A-B:14 C D,J,L:17 B:1 G:1,7,8,20 6:19 H:3 B-I,L:20 F:19 6-D,F,G:19 J:18-20 K,L:18-20 B-D,H,K:11 H:4 J:3 H-I:8 J;8 A,6:6 6:7-8,10,13-15 6:1,19 A,H,:14 G:18-20 J:17 A-D:5 G,H:14 6:20 E:5-8,11,12,15,18 E:19 A-6:1-2 C:14 A-C:16-20 A-B:15-16 A,C-F,H,J,K:13 I:13-15 6:3-4 A-F,H-J:10 A-B:1 K:16 o:io B-G,I-J:5 A:5 D:18 D:10 A-B:4 A-L:20 J:8 A:9 L:11-13,16,19 E:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 L:11 J:3 J:2-14,17 J:3-4 K:11-13 6:8 Kyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hoak Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sfiarondaie Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Snelling Serv.Dr. W Snelling Serv.Dr. E Southhill Dr. S.T.N. 35W S.T.N. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H_ 36 Serv_ S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Sumner St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virginia Ave. 1/irginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Per�meter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Willow Circie Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle Woodbridge Court Woodbridge St. Woodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. �:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,1� A:17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:ZO I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,B:9-1Q;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 6,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 6:18 F:9-14,16-ZO B:1-2 , A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:I5-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:2U L:20 A-G,I:20 D:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,19,20 K:18 .� . TO: • FROM: SUBJECT: DATE: � Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Planning Office Hours - July 10, 17 and 24 August 2, 1985 1. Beck - 835-3800: Peter Beck from the law firm of Larkin, Hoffman and Daley, represents a developer of mini-warehottses who proposes to purchase a portion of the Amoco Oil Company property westerly of Long Lake Road, and south of County Road C. The property is approximately 45Q X 450 feet and is partially zoned B-4 (the new tax increment zone) and a portion is zoned I-1. We explained the city's objectives with respect to this crucial location which together with the Tempte property forms the gateway to the Long Lake Road development to the south. We noted that mini-warehousing is not permitted in the B-4 zone, and it is highly unlikely that the council would approve this form of low intensity industrial development on this site. We suggested that Amoco continue to work with the Tempte people to attempt to develop the properties jointly as was once proposed about a year ago. 2. Bisanz - 893-8808 - Tom Bisanz represents United Properties � who, as you will recall, is attempting to put together some multi-family housing sites in the northeasterly suburbs, and is particularly interested in Roseville. In response to his � considerable interest in the single family residential properties on the east side of Lexington Avenue (across from City Hall), Craig Waldron put together some numbers with respect to potential tax increment possibilities. Craig estimated that a 3.6 million dollar development would produce a tax increment of $115,000 annually and could r d 9 p o uce a$ bond with �575,000 available for debt service. Several days later, Tom, Bisanz called me to inform us that he would not be pursuing this project in as much as one of the homes has now been purchased by George �2eiling who owns the other half (northerly half) of this potential develogment area scheduled for high density residential in the Comprehensive Land Use Plan. Tom also looked at the possibility of purchasing the trailer park, and discussed this with Joe Mertesrlorf who wants a million dollars for the property. We also discussed with Tom Bisanz, the city's policy with respect to low and moderate incom� housing which would allow for a 25$ increase in density. This financing package �aould require 20� of the units to be available at a rate of 30� to persons with income less than 80� of the median (now at about $26,400 per year). Due to United Properties policy and intent to get several projects underway immediately in the northeast suburbs, he will be looking at other properties outside of � � • •the moment• 'th Richwood goseville f� �rill is a realtor Wl of rezoning _ 483_9�67 _ Chris the possibilhome on the Grill Was inquiring about the 3' existing single famiiocated at Realtors WhO 326 foot of the church, This prOpertY is a 75 foot bY north the east side of Marion� enteur and Marion• in corner of LarP multi-familY housing, northwest and Was one of the homeS nthis slated for hign density, ive Land Use Plan, ed the apartment to R_2 Comprehens Roberts develop of rezoning ossible purchased when Don the possibilitieS�hat w�'.1Ld be p We eXPlained development The proPerty area• the potential districts. or R-4 and of these zoning land ApP�rently► the under either feet of ' the residence. 4,450 square law" apartment in erty so as consists °f 2 a,�mother-in" of the prOpe family propertY has ose a rezoning large sing elect tO p�Op They maY ullY utilize the relatively to more t gea1tY Was lot. Simonson of SimonsoB Dale - Dale the S�gn at the / �� f t' - 884-7152 0� n is 5 ft. bY 4, Symonson changing e�isting Sig This in to discuss th�lte. The 10 ft, addition• �ars to ShopPin9 Center �t, bY the sign apP ose to a�d a 90 £.�, However ► Mr . Simonson W�iS they PrOp a n a llowable uired �0 £t' a nd will check produces le5s than t�e Y e� i �he sig n� b� set back issued on January 20� e o f the exact 1�� erm° t Was �urrent n O� a W a r The� b u i l d i n g p t o t h e this item' Should have conform e d 197 � ��,d thus regulations. is the Pre c� �� the balistza lo and on � _ �52-9780 - John La r�staurant � Lido s successfu� Snellin�l Avenu�s�to 5' � a p°pul�� aof Larp�n�eur anseries of attempr�visions Lido S� �,adrant een a northwest q T�ere haVe b H�ightS, makinq.P �ye�,ghts . alcon A Solution Fal.c�n that quadrant �ri F gestauranti• ark �� the redevel.oP o� the Lido S inadeq�ate p �ar eXpans�'O the council provided fOz arkin� ar�a, wi osed bY citY'�Wned P a new prop a roposed decided to build guarantees �n Labalistra had result that Mthe City of Roseville• ase poxtion of �he structure i� ur�h ose� �o b��'1� mad� arran9ementSFord and Pr°p �erY Labalis'��a o� MidwaY H� us a ' ertY which would Mr prop r�orth lawik urant �.n Rosevills'ed facil tY anqU�t S resta o� the Propo With b „the f inest Site p�-an 5tructux'e ► a sol.arium existing preliminarY 500 s�• �t' 0ted that his seats with Johno e �ar Per 3'�2 inc�ude � �' the basement• has �a�i13.ties in �.alcon Heights would have His new facilit He notes that his or ha� restaurant SPaces. � aces• and �,s not � 66 parking 190 parki.n� P app�oximateis operated with reservations restaurant a „sin�1e'S bar"• not) been � • 1 • • There are provisions for a 30 ft. easement through the property on the north side for access to the property to the east (the former Glendenning site�. � He notes, too, that the site has a severe soil correction problem in as much as portions of the property was a ponding area which was filled. He estimates the soil correction costs to be between $60,000 to $120,000. We discussed the potential for a tax increment assistance with Craig Waldron. He proposes to finance the 1.2 million dollar project with a limited partnership issue through Dain Bosworth. This project will not require industrial revenue bond financing in as much as a limited partnership proposed to raise 50� of the construction costs. Limited partnerships are es�imated at 1.2 million to 1.5 million. Mr. Labalistra appeared very excited about building a new operation in Roseville and looks forward to considerable success. We suggested some changes in the site plan relating principally to the provisions for access to the property to the west. He is qoing to continue working on details of the building and site plans and ��ill b� back to review the proj�ct with us soon. 6. Jensen - 925-37�8 - Steve Jer.��sen, architect, was in to discuss revised plans for the Hackworthy site northeasterly of the McCarron's Lake Park. He has had further discussions with the property owner north, Herbert Klingbeil, and have revised their plans to construct a driveway between the � northerly most unit and the center unit. They are proposing a revised plann�d unit development with three duplex structures, how�ver with a low profile. They wtll be visitin� with t�e neighbors prior to the �onduct of public hearinq before �the Planning Commission and Council. Revised access plan will considerab�y reduce any potential impact on the neiqhboring single family homes to the narth (Mr. Klingbeil'sa. 7. Traqiac - 293�3379 - J.�k Tra�iac is a repr�sent�ti�e of the United States Postal Service and was in ro discuss construction of a new post office in Roseville of approximately 12,000 square feet. The existing structur� is 7,000 sq. ft. �and it has been on its current si�e for the past 15 y�ars. we discussed possible new locations for the facility. Th� facility serves the Roseville area and according to �r. Tragiac has but 2 to 3 semi-truck deliveries per day. Local delivery units leav� �he site for local distribution. He is going to consider various locations and get back to us xegarding potential develo�ment plans. 8. Thompson - - Milo Thompson, architect, Bruce G�ldstein an� Crai� oberlin were in to discuss their �uture planning f or the development of an Ebenezer Elderly Housing Project on the remainder of the Carbonne site west of Hamline . Avenue. The site is 7.81 acres, and they are looking for a � development o approximately 180 to 225• its. We discussed development regulations, procedures, and possible implications of tax increment financing. Apparently, the • site had potential soil problems. We discussed the possibilities of their acquiring the existing structure and remodeling it so as to enhance their potential development. The existence of the accessory garage structures and their potential for improving these conditions was emphasized. They may or may not purchase the Carbonne Building, but we noted the considerable advantages to them for doing so. 9. McRichgels - 291-8894 - Mr. McRichgels was in to discuss preliminary site plans for the townhouse development at the southeast corner of Victoria and Trunk Highway 36. This property is indicated as medium density development on the comprehensive plan. Review with the Fire Marshall suggests that a loop street on the northerly portion of the property will suffice for fire access, We discussed these implications to the site plan. They will make the appropriate changes and submit the project for Planning Commission and Council review. 10. Graham- - Bob Graham was back again to discuss the development of his proposed off-sale liquor store on the L- shaped parcel east and south of Alfred Dunn's Ace's Service Station. The development of the plan proposed will work, but �here is mAre parking than required. ��ie suggested he try to work with Mr. Dutan regarding provision for additional p�arking for his facility which is inadequate for a service � station and small 4ffice buildin�g on the east service station site. 8ob Graham, as you know, has liquor outlets at 84th and Lyndale in Bloomingtan, Moundsview, and Shakopee. He op�rat�s und�r the name "Budget Giquor Store". ll. Gravener - 332-3944- .7ohn Gravener and J�n Heinig were in to d scuss the r firrn's preparation af � comprehensiv� plan fo� the Northwest@rn Coll�ege site. John is a representativc� of the firm of Hamm�l, Gr��n and Abrahatnson. i�e a�oted that the college now has 900 stud�nts wit� a projection of 1,200 maximum. ��e discuss�d th� various planning ��em�nts r�lating to th@ir prop�rty in Rosevill� including acc�ss and eqr�ss driv�s, pot�ntial on site facility expansion, r�sider�tial hausing, parking, and th� sensitiviky oF the singl,e family homes in Roseuille to the east of �he sit�. They are going to pr�pare pr�liminary plans which they will �eview with the city in the near future. 12. Brass - 988-5503 - Dwig�t Brass is proposing to build a "European Type" housing project which would feature townhousing on a 4 acre sit� w�sterly of Galtier and north of Larp�nteur Avenu�. This prop�rty is shown as m�dium density on the comprehensive plan. He presented some v�ery preliminary sketches inciicating the nature of his concept. � It would app�ar the concept has validity but may be dif f icult to•accom lish on t' p his relativ�y small site. We noted the potential zoning of the land is R-6 which would allow for 40 units on the site. Mr. Brass appears somewhat • idealistic about the nature of the development and is inexperienced as a developer. We are concerned about his ability to carry this project through in what appears to be a somewhat grandiose expectation. 13. Hoover - 631-2900 - Gary Hoover was in to discuss construction of a 35 ft. by 40 ft. exterior storage area behind the retail structure formerly occupied by Lob Pine. We discussed ordinance requirements noting that the material matched the structure and is 8 ft. high, that it could be accomplished on the property as proposed. 14. ?????? 15. Franke - 636-6400 - Franke, Tim Nelson, Rob Davidson and Jim Tihuise were in to discuss the development of the Swann Trust Property for a 4,186 sq. ft., two story off:tce structure. They have revised the plans in accordance witi� our previous discussion for orienting the project towards County Road C and Long Lake Road, rather than to the northeast as previously proposed. They estimated the building cost to be 12 million. The facility would t�av�e 5 s�aces per 1,000 sq. ft. as r�quired for o£fice development with 930 cars. We again discussed the city's objective with respect to this key property in Rosevil].e noting that previous discussions with the Swann Trust re�resentatives � agreed upon the conunon objective of achieving a hotel and a major office strueture on t�e site. They are looking fQrward to a 1.5 million dollar write-down on the property, which wauld absorb a substantial portion of the tax increment potential. This propertyP in the original tax increment program, accountecl tor 15� of �he t�otal revenu�s to construct a bridc�e and other public improvements included in the original program. we suggested that they r�vise the pl�ns to includ� an office tower in a portian of the property. Ti�is would at least attem�t to achieve the city's Qbjective of creating a"focal poin�" for this crucial pr4perty in Roseville. This property has the best potenti�l for siqnificant new development, being con�iguous to the only principal a�c�ss to 35W in the ��ity of Roseville. With a 12 million dollar investment which fulfills th� city's expectations, w� are cor�cerned about a two �tory o�fic� s�tructure setting a precedent �or future develapment on this crucial "g�teway" property. They agreed to consider our conc�rns, and retura� for a subsec�u�n,t review of their proposal. 16. Cyptar - 298-1066 - Cash Cyptar and Don Schmidt were in to discuss th� platting of the ta�o new lots proposed to be �r�$ted southeasterly of Huron, westerly of F��nwood. We agre�d that the appropriate m�thod is for the preparation of a preliminary plat. The awner Qf the land is Larry � Koalaska. There appears to be some boundar�r mistake on the • L_J � • • southwesterly lot line, which could be corrected in the platting process. We can anticipate this development being proposed for review by the Planning Commission and Council in the near future. 17. Graske - 487-2867- Brad Graske proposes to lease the office building east of Ace's Service Station. We talked about the extreme parking condition on the site. We recommended that the owner of the service station prepare a plan indicating the proposed provision for parking facilities to serve the qas station and the sma].1 office build�.ng which consists of approxima�tely 837 square feet. This building was built in 1956, prior to the introduction of the new zoning requirement ' M h in arc of 1959. We suggested that the gas station owner be encouraged to prepare a plan for the property. This property has a depth of 89 ft. on Lexington Avenue, and width of a 136.5 feet on Roselawn. This is a very small site to accommodate a very successful gas station and service operation plus a small office building that accupies the easterly portion of this site. 18. Trapp - 784-2293 - Jim Trapp and a partner, Glen Mischke, own th� gas station site at the northeast corner of Old Highway 8 and County Road C-2. There is a parcel consisting of 1.34 acres to the north which Mr, Trapp progoses to purchase. Both of these ��operties are indicated as business properties in the Comprehensive Land Use Plan. He proposes to tear down the old gas station and build a new auto service center, including tune-up facilities, muffler repair, transmission repair, etc. Notinq the indication of th� future land us� on the Compr�hensive Plan, we suggested that Nfr. Trapp hire a goAd archi��ct to prepar� the development plan, keeping in mind the requir�ments and �he compatibility of th� sfn41� family homes to the north. It would a�pear that �his clev�lopmont done prop�rly, could considerably enhanc� the appearanc�: anci function af this corner, no�r occupieel by �n outmo��d, inadequat� �ervice station facilit�r. 19, Lund - 631�9113 - Cliff Lun�, Jim La�rnm�rs, architect, �nd Scott Robert� w�r� �.n to di�cuss potential d�v�lopment of an 11.36 aere site northwesterly of �estern and Owa�so Hlvd. They indicated th��r int�rest in dev�loping apartment� on th� site. we not+�d that th� land is indicated as low d�nsity developm�nt on tho Camprehensive Plan ��n though it is contiguous to a portion of the Ros�vill� School District site which is iradic�ted as medium density housing on ghe Camprehensive Land Us� Plan. It is abvi�us that access ko this site is b�s� acquired by the purchas� of th� Graw property owned by A1 Graw's father. The� haue considered this in the past but have not achieved th�t objective. They asked if access might be gained through th� school district proper�y, but access thraugh that land to w�stern ,�v�n�e would h�v� to surmount a v�r�r st�ep g�ade that woulcl appear to be ir�practical. we �uggested they consider develapment with a maximum density as may be allowed by an R-2 zone which would�e 5 750 s a � , qu re feet per unit. This parcel is relatively land-locked without purchase of the Graw property. We suggested they pursue that approach in as much � as it is obviously the most realistic method of developing the property in an intelligent way. 20. Davey - 484-7689 - Carol and John Davey live at 2818 Galtier and propose to put a 9 ft. addition on their garage which is a 24 x 24 free-standing structure. The existing garage is 11 ft. 6 from the property line and adding anything less than the 9 ft. will not provide an additional garage space. Due to the location of the house, the garage addition cannot be put anywhere but contiguous to the lot line. A 5 ft. setback is r�quired, this addition can provide 2 ft. 6. 21. Elfstrom - 983�8381 - Scott and Cath� Elstrom live at 728 County Roaa C in the original farmstead home operated by the Gangel Dairy which goes back to 1899. This property has 119.94 ft. of frontage on County Road C. The house is placed to one side, and it would appear that a division af the land would be possible to provide an additional single family 1ot. There is a 6U Ft. lot further �ast. �e discussed the possibility of converting the house to a duplex, but the Elfstroms preferred not to do t�at due to th� hi�tori�al nature �f th� home. We discu�sed proc�dures end policy regarding lot splits. 22. Anderson � 633-678, - Bo� Anderson from Union Car�ide w�s in to d scuss the d�� gn of the roof �tructure ko cover th� � pi�� cooling system pr�viously discu�sed. �� sgr�ed tha� a broran s�anding-rib prefinished metai dack with the ro�f eantile��ring past th� end post would ho th� b�st so��tion. The cut af th� sp�cific�tion� shown us was th� sam� k�nd of material used fc� so�arium ��o�s in many restaurants� ��s light app�aring rQof structur� �e believ� would be ��Q� lo�king �b�an a ne�w�rk of pi��s su�Fanded in tI�� ir as originally proposed� 23. Mat�ke - 8�1-507� - Joe M�tzk@ r��rese�ts Rax'� �estau�ant a�d �as in to �iscuss an 18 se�� $dditian �o the Rax'� Restaurant narth of Cou�ty Road �-2, wost of �airvigw. Ther� is mor� t�an adequat� �oom �n th�� sit� �or th� ad�it�on. Th�ra wi�l b� an �dd�tion�l iE car capacit� due to chang�s in th� d�sign �f �he park�ng are� a� wQll. Wa sug�as�ed ha add � s�ri�s aF buliard� a1Qng the walk �o to pr�v�nt cars from p�rking on th� w�lk �nd cohtigvou� t� th� building. I� ap��ars that th�s revi�i�n is minor and w�ll not ��quir� a rQgroc��sing of the sita pl�n. 24, Schoeve - 482-9722 - Mr. SchoQv� is a doc�or who op�rat�s $ clin � w th h s s ster, who is a d�ntist, �� 2�81 North Rice Sta The �x�s�ing colonial appe8rin� struc�ure h�s 3,030 s�. f t. an� tMey propos� to add 3,Q7S sq. ft, Thu� the prop�sed structu�� wi�l hav� �,SOS sq. ft., 42 p��ki�g spac�s will ba � provid�d. Dr. Schoeve had plan��d to doubl� the size of � � �� this buildin• • g several years ago but had delayed it to now. The propertl� is zoned B-1, and after appzopriate detailed plans are prepared, a building permit can be issued. 25. Mayes - 631-1545 - Paul Mayes lives vn the west side of Lake St. in the far southwest portion of the village contiguous to the entrance to the Midland Hills Golf Club. There is a platted street (Ryan) on the north side of his 1ot which has not been developed and will not be in as �uch as it extends westerly to a permanent ponding area. He is considering requesting the street be vac�ted subject to utility easements. This appears to b� a reasonable request, alt�ough it wil� bear more se�ious consideratian �f �� proceeds with an application to vacate. 26. Dunn - 489�1010 - A1 Dunn operates Ace Service St�tion on th� southea�t �orner of Ros�lawn and County Road 8. Wo discussed the pending development tha� may occur �round his statian �Hob Gr�ham) and that this would hav� an �ffect on hi� pa�king c��acity i� as muc� as h@ parks many caxs An enat v�cant prop�rfiy and has far consid�rabl� tim�. N� thinks h� has plenty a� parking on his p�operty, buk w� request�d th�t h� hire an �rchitect to lay ou� his si�e �r�p�rly sa th�t th� p8��ing G�pacity c�n �� d�t�armin�d �n� the �Qst ��fiei�nt lay�ut pgo�ucod, Thi� c�p$city has to do alsa �ith �he r�n�al oE the small s��uctur� on th� ea�t �ido o� �h� ��te which A� $gr�ed to no� ren� to an�one uneil w@ ffnd ou� wh�t parkin� capaGi�y �ill b� �vailable �o� t�� r�icc �teti�n ��d/or thQ afffc� �eru�turQ. �7� Har�v - 484-202� - Daxach� M�rty wa� in to ra�iew her P�o��d o�ficQ buildin� on OakGr�s� ��st o� eh� Howa�d �ohnson H��el. �h� i��ic�tos th�y are gaing to p�oce�d thi� f$�l t� �ai�e 2.3 mfllion an � b� d sal� and th�t th�y �r� �ambling on ��e m�rkot. Thi� is a very fine lo��inq bu�3d�ng with undergra�nd �i t� tha� ��r �9 �nd will b� a raal a��t ��t�an n� th� c�ty. T�Q buil�ing c�n�a��s �o �11 planninq ��vo�a��n� stand��d�. 28. D�l��av � 631w�29a 6 Riehard A�1�ne; �n� Carl�� Gam�� present a sugar distri�uti�n co��any call�d '"H�uQ a Po��i�n". �h�� opose �o �dd � �uq�r stara�e �ank m�esu�ing 11�5 �t� �� 3� f�. an thQi� ��opQrt� ��ut� of th� ra�Xr�� t�acks t��t� �� Coun�y Road C. �hi� comp�ny h�� bQen in this la��tian Eo� ��a��, h�� 17 �m��Qy��, T��i� ��a� cam�s by �ruck and is rapec�ag�d �o� distribution to ��taurant�, a3rli�o�, �tc. 29. Nu�r�s a�33-2870 - H�nr� Hu�r�� s i� �� iscuss th� prop�s�d divis an �� l�nd on the e�st s�d� �i Sn�ll�ng, w�st�rly of S��l�ing Curv�. Ther� is co�f�sian as to �h� `x�� locati�n a� ehe p�oF��cy lines o.� trie cAntiguo�s lo� to th� sou�h. Th�s� �r� all mot�s and bounds �arc��s and a plat is obv�,ously required. �n thi� case th� plat will solv� �om� boundary �ac��ion pro�l�ms as w�11, �h�y ��e . � � � ' resisting the platting because of what t ey consider additional expense. We reviewed the procedures, differences, and benefits of platting versus metes and bounds lot splits. 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Belmont Lane Bismar�k Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Cha tsriorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Coloniai Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C Couniy Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Caurt Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,N:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:I2 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-I4,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-L:11 E-H:11 L:I9 L:12,� Draper Ave. Draper Orive Duniap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Aee. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farringtan Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulhar� St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Gle�hill Road Gl em�rood Ave . Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N b S Grandview Ave. Gri99s St. Grotto St. Naddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Neinel Or. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Nerschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. HoZton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Avt. Laurie Road L�� Ave. J:3,4,1Y,13 J:6 E,F,L:12 I:5,T,8.10-12,16*18 J:19,20 E,N:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 �:19 A:19 6-D.N.L:19 F:19 I-L:I1 C-E,H:1D E:15 E-F.I:8 G-J:2 F:20 6-O,F.L:19 , K:1i,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:1�,1$ t�:6 G:1�-16.18-20 C.0:12 E-H:15 N:$ A-L:10 G.I:19 A-0:15-17 C-16 E.H:7 J:7 A,B,f,H:t K-17 F:10 K:11 C-O:il J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F-I8 E,F.H,I:18 B:1I,12 C:1Q-13,18 I:12 B,D,J.L.:17 J:2 C.D:�3 1;11-20 H:3,8,12 a-L:1� I.L:I Lixtle B�y Rd. l4:1�,1� Long lake Rd. A-F:3 lor�n �d. J:5 lt�v�ll l�v�. G:13-�6,18 Ly�ia Ave. A,B:l,6-l� L�sdia Caurt A:1 L�rdia Or. A-6:1�9 Mackubin St. C D,J,l:17 P4ansan St. B:1 N�tap1@ lan� B:1 «7.8.20 tiapte lan� Cc. �:I9 l�irian R�. H.3 P�irior� Si. �-1,1:20 F�atilda �ircle �:19 04atilda St. �-D.F.6:19 �Gar�ron �lvd. �i. J: �8-2Q l4�Carrmn Biw�. S. �.l:l�-ZO �4cCarrons St. B-�.N.K:II Nidl�n� t;rove Rd. N:� l�itfland Wflis idd. J:3 kidlothfan Rd. t!-C;� P�id Oaks Lan��r � Rd. d:8 IHi�c�r�d Dr. A,�:6 Ifiilla�oe�e! Av�. �:7-�.10,13-1� �i11�� St. 6.1,q9 Nil �on St. �i�F�.: �4 ltirrr��sata ,��. G:18-TO t4ou,ndsvi�*�wr Av�. J:ii M�tiunt Ri�Sge Rci. �-D:5 �4ancy P1ace 6,1�:14 14�rrh�ri+e+r �t. 8�20 Oakcresc �ve. E:5-ffi,11,t2,15.18 Q�I�trest Lar� �:i9 Old Nighor.x�r $ �-�:1-2 Ortharti l�nc C:l� Wa�ssa Bl vd. S �.-C: �6�2� 0��sp Blvd. � R-�:I5�16 Q�cfar� St. A.C-F,Hr.D,K; l� F�,�rker ��e�. I :13-15 Partrid�� Q�. B:3-� ►��sc�l 5�. A-f,C�-J:iO Patton R.d. ,A-�:l Pini�eri�r CC. K; l6 Q�taros� Curve 0:10 Pr1Qr ��e. �-G.H-J�r IPPiar Cirtle A:S Rasabl+�r Cot�rt 0:1� Raa�bt�r Rd. 0:10 it�3nai�nd �vw� . A-� : A Rice St. A-L:20 Ridge+�ood La. dl b 5 J:II Ri�g�pad Rd. A:9 Ro�a Awe. l:ll-13,16�,1� Ra�c Pia�ce E:1,2.7-i2,1��16,1� Rose Y1sta Ct. �:11 ti�sedatr Or. J:3 Ros�lBwn Ar�. J:2-14.1? 8�� Absewood la. � i S 3-4 � �11 Ct. �-l3 icyan �ve. Sandhurst Orive Sandy Hook Or. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Shelda� St. Sherren St. Shore�od Cw. & La. Shryer Ave. Si�psons �t. Skill�an Ave. Snelling �ae. Snel�i�g Curre Snelling Serv.Or. l� Sneiling Serv.Or. E Sauthhill Or. S.T.F#. 353i S.T.N. 36 5.7.H. 36 Serv. N �.T.H. 36 Serv. S 5 . T . ti 2�0 St. Altr�ns St. St. Croix 5�t. Sieph�ns St. S�nbridge Ave. Stanbridge St, St�te farra Road SEerl�er fdoad Sue�r St . Taiis�3n Curve 7atw� St. i�rr�in�l �aad Te,n-ace Dr. ip�hill Cir=le� Yr�n�it Rve. Traseth Rd. �ficCoria St. �irg�inia Ave. �irginia Gircle �agcner Place 9c�qner St. 9lainut St. 1►�St P�e'3�p;er Qr. 6��tern Rve. i�estoroad Circle "IOe+�rs Road Itl��acon Ave. �ler Ave. b�eler St. biil�r St. oii"llias St. btt 11 c�r Ci rCl e Ilfllo�o Lane I�od�ridqe Gircle Y�yo�o�d�b�ridge Ccourt 7�67VVii�� ytw iiootthi 1 � Qrfive I��dlynn D�ve Ilbodrufi" Av�, 3:5-7,9-23,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:3,10,12,15,I6,18 K: 2'0 I:5 �,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-�4,16,17 A,B:�-�-OTF,J:9 J:5,6,10-I2,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-0:8 �1-D:9 �:18 A-�:4; G-H:1-4 6-H:1-20 G-2-4 Fi:3-4,7,�,17 N-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 �:7-8 A:1 N:g K.16 K:12 D:IO J:6 F:1-3 C:7,1(',11,18;C-D:15-16 G:iB F:9-14,16-20 B:l-2 �4-L :14 C-D:19 f�19 k;20 K:I7-I9 E-N:1 6:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,6, I ,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:2i E:11 6:20 L:20 A-6,I:20 D:fll-14,27-1 A:9-10,13,�,20 K.18 r� 'u � : � w u � ��'`'� V• i��n�� oG�� _ Dahigren, Shardlow, and Uban/i ncorporated � MEMORANDUM DATE: July 15, 1985 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren RE: Planning Office Hours - June 27 and July 3, �985 1. Graham, 6�1�-6139. Tom Lynchcum, Architect, has prepared a preliminary site plan for Robert Graham for the Calf property which is an L-shaped parcel around the existing service station at Lexington Avenue and Roselawn. Robert Graham, as you know, is looking for a site £or an Off-Sale li.quor store. He would like to have a building 80' x 130' with 1U,�400 square Feet, but the site is narrow with only 132' of frontage on Lexington. The real problem with the site is that it leaves the service station with 89' of frontage, and a fringe of 136.5' on Roselawn, Parking for , this station is totally inadequate, and the site also contains an old house whieh has been remodeled into an office building. We have suggested that the service station should be eleared and the total site developed properly. In view of this problem, we have suggested that some other sites in +:he City might be more appropriate. Mr. Graham has been looking at the Super America site which was approved for redevelopment at the northeast corner of Lexington and County �oad B. Due to the economic troubles that Ashland Oil appears to be in at this time, it appears that �his station is n�t going forward. Thus, there may be a possibility for development of tY�is site for some other use, assuming Super America decides not be build. 2. Bordson, �183-34�1. Dick Bordson is preseY�tly trying to buy the old Kugler Musie Museum Building. He is contemplating tearing down the house and remodeling the building for office purposes. This site is, of course, difficult to develop by itself for lack of frontage on a business street. Aecess f rom Lexington is via a private • � � • Page 2 easement which forms the alley behind the shopping center. There is 3,600 square feet of area in the building (on two floors). It appears that adequate parking could be aecommodated if the house is removed. There are three parking spaces that go with �he house on the multi-family residential site to the west. Whether these spaces can be used if the house is torn down is not certain. Ws are, however, eneouraging Minnesota Federal to consider this site because it would make logical expansion for them. Mr. Bordson also notes that the employees from Minnesota Federal park on Dionne Street northwest of the Kugler site. this is further indication that Minnesota Federal should purchase this property so as to expand their Savings and Loan property which is direetly contiguous to the east . 3. Zahren, 636-3833• Seott Zahren and Mike Plat from Fuddruckers and Ted Williams and John Skoglund, from Luthers (636-834�1) were in to diseuss potential par�king problems for the four businesses located on the Fine • property--the three restaurants and MGM Liquor Store. We conveyed to ther� the potential for developing an aceessory lot westerly of the service road on state-owned property. This has been cheeked out with the state whieh indicates it would be made available on a lease basis in whieh case 35 pereent of thWeP�otedd�hat the�development a replacement for taxes). could be done as a publia improv�ment project, and the b8nefits assessed to the properties. We deeided it would be best to wait to s�e what happeWs� ad�scu:�sed ithe establishments are in place. possibility of buildir,�g th� parking lot in gravel only at first if constructio,n is done with asphalt or fallow if use permits total i�aprovement. In the mean time, we will sehedule anothe_r ro��eting at whi�h time we will diseuss the sa.ts pla�1 and preliminary costs estimates. In the meantime, �ney are wondering if parking could be allowed on one side of the service road. We will eheck this out with the Fire Marshall to see if that is possible. 4. Frenke, 666-6400. Bill Frenke, Attorney, Rob Davidson, Tim Nelson, and Jim Theusch, Architect, were in to diseuss their very preliminary plan to develop a two-story office and "high-teeh" building on the Swahn Trust Property at the northwest corner of Long Lake Road * and County Road �'builds 192 OOOWesquarerefeete w thwh780 they propose to � parking spaces with approximately 150 under portions of tl�e building. We explained the City's policy in respeet to development this property as it relates to the Tax • Page 3 Increment District. We noted the inFormal, mutual objectives of the City and the Swahn Trust people to develop the land for a hotel and office building. They indicated that markets, in their opinion, for eaeh of these is soft for the moment and wish to proceed with this development. However, this developmenti will likely need tax increment assistanee, in the form of' some sort of rate down on the land. They did not discuss these numbers nor specific plans but propose to do so in the future. We commented on the design as much as is oriented toward the pond, away from the Interseetion at C and Long Lake Road. We suggested this might be a mistake, if the project were to proceed. They will likely be back with revisions and more specific numbers relating to the proposal. 5. Nesset, 5�1-1000. Erie Nesset is an earployee of Dave Weir, who is inquiring about procedures and planning for consideration of the development and rezoning of the land he is putting together northwesterly of County Road C2 . at�d Cleveland. We noted that the first step would be the amendment to the comprehensive plan, and review of the development proposal, a� diseussed with him and David Weir in previous meetings. We noted the need to the condu�t of a joint, careful analysis of the tax inerement potential, development approaeh, timing, and use ar�d extent of tax increment funding. They w�li get together with Craig Waldren and prepare the preliminary development p�.an and we discu�sed. 6. Jensen,L� 25=3788• Steve Jensen, Architeet, was in with C. R. Heekworthy regarding revised plans for use of the residential prop�rty previously approved by the City for planning two lots into three single family lots. They are eonsidering pre-duplexes for the �ite, and noted that they are preparing a plan which moves the aecess furth�r to the south away from the contiguous neighbor complaining about the development proposal who lives direetly north of the property. We s�;ressed the importance of achieving that landowner's eoop�ration, and support from the commur�ity. The design af the new s�ruc�ures is improving as mueh a9 their lower building, wi�h one-story above grade (on the north side� whieh is a ma�t�r of eoneern wh�n the proposal was previously considered and turned down by the City. They are also � looking at the possibilities of buying Steve Zess' land to the south whieh is also zoned R-1 though apparent�y used for maehinery storage. . :. n • S ies lives in a home at the Spies 636-0232• Jackie A 7� t corner of Bremer and Mildred wh3.eh Was to itheir northwes are contemplating adding Barry Omeara. They ro erty ra e whieh will be 27'�" from the easterly P P ga g arage structure in u°remente line. We notedl �hattrie front yard setback req can project 3' thus no variance will be required. a. Anderson 63�-6781. Rob Anderson fromgshetheire proPosed of Unidn Carbide was in to d scu r�liminary for ooling tankers contiguousW a p eir south facility P We revie side of their bui l d in g. i Ss w h i c h stem of P P Architec t's designs for this sY ��f tY�e piP� for the deluge of the tankers w�ha watier d urin g provides ear. We �Uggeg��d done hot seasons of the y referably system were roofed with an ar rib� rwould p be theinm��o i� metal with a s�anding He is go 6 to develop this facility. attraetive waY Waya in which this consult with his architeet regarding detra�t can be done and be back to us for furth aoes�notltation. We are Gon�erned thatetheroperiies c�o south ir� the�hink any further from th P inerement diatrict. Thes� curved struet �oblem without � would be th� best approaeh to handle t�is P adding a large inves�ment to the site whieh we hope ultimately will be rede�r�loped• 4_p� 2. Dorothy Brar�nen and her in�sbthe g, nrannen, 5 washes operate sev�ral s�lf-service �had been �o Roseville She previously ested that where M�tropolitan Area. �� a� o��ice to consider^ a loeatca� wa ��h�t tihey p e and they have suCh a They have done this in Eridl y buiiding above it• we�1. She showed us a pieture found that it worked ver She is looki.ng for a site in of thi� development. o��ntial �itiW� Z°��dd not Roseville. We diseussed s°me p few. this use, but there are very �.arl eneourage her attempts a�nd �o b$ lesss than particu Y land values she o�n ab�r in he Cityea whaG sites are g 6 nke -�200 • Ror� Kranke and � fork thed loeat on rof na 10. Krz � otential sit�e' were in to diseuss p need 10 aeres on��s�ory shopping center for wEi�di��ssed a possible �or 100,OOQ square t~ee�' such a site in a considerable locations, though acquiring ou know, difficuli'�. We locati.onaboutR��he ilp e is, as Y � ta1ked ossibilities in e t that ause non�mtax Distriet, but tieslwest�of �5W;urag inerement prope �� Page 5 11. Oberle, 636-6�100. Mike Oberle was in to discuss potential development of a single family land lo� parcel south of Trunk Highway 36 service road. This application is in process of review by the Planning Commission and Council. 11a. Campbell, 484-�1638. Carol and Tom Campbell live at 976 Transit and wish to expand their single ear garage (1�1' x 20') to a 20t wide to a 24' deep garage. The only way thel✓ can do this on their site is to extend it 10' into the front yard within 5' of �he sideyard. This property has a swimming pool in the baek, with extensive rear development. We noted the yard minor varianee application nd p a cessi g, eriteria for a �2. Bruce. 545-1111. Dave �ruce and Wayne Roswiek were in from Raun Trucking Companies to diseuss their 4.88 aere site at the southeast corner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. They are trying to find a buyer for the site and hopefully to develop similar to that whieh was proposed by Dillin Inn some months ago. They noted that the E�ampton Inn's peUpl�; are looking in the area (Petrie) and they are tryino har�d �o market the praperty for use consistent with the Cityfg tax inerement objeetives. Though this building is not in the Distriet at �his moment, our previous analysis indicated it eould be added and we suggest that not oecur until development is proposed. Th� land is available for $3•50 per square foot. It seems reasonable, based on its loeation. They have looked into the possibility af selling the land for further trueking uses for which is a potential buyer. They strongly reeommend�d against this course, and requ�ested th�ir eontinued efforts in cooperation with the City to develop the land for more appropriate uses. WQ agree that though there is a power line eaaement on the property that approximately two�-thirds of the property is available for building plaeement which was easily ace�mplished in the Deolonian Proposal. They have a eopy of that prop�sal and lcnow exaetly what Cit�► haa a mind. They said they would continue to try to market �he prop�rty for more appropriate uses. 13• LQrviek� 926_2266, Bob Lorvick from Coldwell Banker was in with Tim Nelson to diseuss signing of an office st�ueture on Rice street developed by Jeff Neilson. In ��hib�case, though a building permit was issued for a sign placed 3(7 from �l�e Rice Street right-of-way, it was in faet car�structed within 15' of the right-of-way. This sign denotes the location of one of Coldwell Bankers' retai�l offices. We looked up the building permit to ►�ote that the p�rmit was given with sPeci�'ie � Page 6 instruetions to be 30' baek. We suggested that a variance in this case would not be appropriate, in as mueh as another sign of the office next door was moved baek to the required 30' just recently. 1�. Bisanz, 89�8808. Tom Bisanz is a representative of United Preperties who have commissioned him to develop several multi-family housing sites in th� northeasterly suburb. Toro is particularly inter�sted in the site east of City Hall whieh consists of sev�n small paraels totalling 7.5 inches. Some of these pareels are oecupied by Qingle family homes, an� Tom was interested in th� City's opinions regarding the possibil�ty oF putting this together as a tax increment proposal. This develop�ent would be better if it fnoluded �he land owned Georga Rehling to Che north, produci.ng a oomprehensive develop�en� plan for the entire are� Pro� County Road � �o Woodhill. Tom �is$nz indiea�ed he intended to m�e� with George Rehling to in�re�t.�gate the possib�litfe�c of forming a joint yen�ure or Duyl.ng tk�e land. We knaw from previous context that George R�hling'� 4'irst objective is to not sell t�,e lartd b�t to develop it hims�l�' w�thia � � tW0 t0 three ye8a`s" . After stree� dedic�tiion it would appe�� that a,+ithaut Rehlin�'s i�nd thQ property �oul� net o�at at 5.36 aQres which at appraximately 70 units ger aor+a �ould produoe 91 units. Ninty-one unit�s tir�es th� �average �and �ost par uni,t oP �3�000 �quals �273,Q4�• °fhe di£i�ereno� bet�een th�t value anc� the ac�ual e�st �C ihe land oau�d b�e the tax incrgment. With taxe� �t �pproxim�tely �1f360 per u�it, th� ninCy-one u�it� would produ�e �i�3,7�4. Comparing ihis with the ex�stin� tax on the p�roels produees a tax inaremant. Greg Wald�n a�resd to revi�w these n�mbers and get bac#c �a To� 9is�n� reg�rding the patential tax iner�ement po��bil�ties. 15. Minnesota �'ed�r�l, 298-�40Q. Duane Miran, AralYit��et, ar�d Dennis Urews wera in to review t�e expansi�n of Mlnns�ota E'ed�ral's drive-up f��cilities whieh we h�d diseuss��d at previous conferencss �ith Mi.nn�sota F�d�ral representatives. This proposal expands the dr°ive-up fa�ility, but remo�,�es same �f thP lands�3pp areas in �he process without inere�sing or decrea�ing �he p�rking eapaeity. W� again emphasized the pcatenCi�l importanee of their acquiring the Kruger land noting th�t their people ara park�.ng up on Dionne Street. Ttaey admit a � parking shortage on their property whieh eould be alleviate with the aequisition a" the Kruger Property. We suggeated �hat their Senior Vice�president in eharg� of Brar�ches, Jaek Hoffner, se�io�sly consider this n U i Page 7 • potential. We suggested Mr. Hoffner get in contaet with us regarding their aver-all development prospeets and future. 16. Erieksen, 920-�G56�. Harold Erieksen is a representative of the Sperry Gompany who presented a propasal to develop the trf�ngular por�ian of land easterly of their location for recr�atic�nal purpo9es Por the Sperry people. Th�ey have fifty�-two slow-piteM softball teams involving �00 persons� They propose to use the property 1"our nights a r�ee�x £or softb�ll. The land would be leased Prom th� SpaQe Center�, Mieh��l Creg�n !s a Pa�ilities �ngineer f'or Sperry aho wa9 pr�esQnt at the meeting. The Ar�hlteats are with Noward, Needles, Tamen, Bergendorf. �le discu�s��d our oa.�aern� regarding the axolu�i�e ua� of the l�nd for reereatio�al purposes Whioh !e not a per�i�te� use in t9�� Indr�atrSal D�sGrtet. Ther� a�er� a��a questions Af pr�oWi�iona �"or s�ni�ary i�oiliti�t� �rad a ped�atrian �rossing for the r�ilroad whiol� dtdide� the l�r�d Proaa t��Q i r park i ng ar�aa wh t at� would serve the prop��ty from th+� we� t. �� oted �Mat u� would l i ke tQ dls�uss th� �oning requtr�aaent a�p�a�� of �he pr�opoa�l � arith th� Cit�► At�o�ney bef4r� ofPer�n� an oQini�n r��ard4n� th� Rat�n+�tal of' �heir �^oposal, 1T. Ent�el ��83-6?O1. R��y �ng@1 has �OnQ p��n�ir�g i8r the n��r True ik n� C��pany ��r�d pr�a�a�� to aons�ri�u�� fuelin� bui�din� �ear� th� �ntr�na� to th� �1�� r�aQ��ly �pprove� iay the City re�arding �xpan�ion o� the An�ga� prap�r�y by th� pr�avi�fon ior � lar�� wr�r�hou�a �ddi�io�. If th� �tr�c��r� �� th�n i000 s�qu,�� f��t ft i� cona�der+�d an �Qa��o�y �tr�u�t�re an� do�� n�� requir� � rev�is�d PUD. W� d��snu�� tha d�sign, lo��tian, And po��Zbl�a �^elo��ttan of th� f��ilfty. ih�y au�e g�ing +t�o Qon�id�r ou�r sug�QsCiQn� �nd �et b��acl� �a u� reg�rding a mor� de�initive propo�al. 19. I�iahA�ls, �8��!-�'�. Jim Mich�els w�;� in �o di�c►�s� hf�s �oqui�itiQn of the two lots whiQh would b� areat�d o!'f M�rrill S�t��t propos�d by �w� Qf the land �wr�ers in th�e area. This is tl�� ot divi�iol wher� w� suggested a prelin�ir��ry plan combir�ing a� existin� me�es and baun�s parcel with ar� �xis�ing Iot creating two lot fro�tag�� on Merrill. Jim indi��tes he has agrQ�d ta �urchase the�� lo�s if th�y are approveci by the Cit�� 19. Hess �84-�466. Rogar He�s waa back wi�h $ revised plan or t e re �velopment of a portion of hi.s prop�rti�s off Riee Street which would involve a new 6,4a0 squ�re foot one-s�ory warehouse strue�ure, repl�eing 8,�00 square . � • L � � Page 8 foot of the two original buildings on the site. This development will require a varianee from 30 foot of setback on the frontage street to 15 feet. The plan now indieates an appropriate loading area off the frontage street where it now exists. This plan has minimal detail, but would appear ta be a eonsiderable improvement over the exis�ing situatior�. Roger may proaeed with the applicd,, .,n for the redevelop�aent of the lan� whiQh would i neees�itate Planning Commis�ion and Couneil �eview due to � the front yard varianee proposa:�. oI � N 3120 a� TM � I�I 1 �' A � I 3000 � B � gl J � � �� e 2880 -11i�1� / // (= _rn _ I t n �! -c r ' � -/ �� I i C � �, �''� , . zi6o , , � + �.y�1�:�s� L ; ;` - ; D/ � \ � 2640 :. r� .i E� � :s2o , F I 1 $4Q(} 1n� `a� G' � �I H y1 I / 2160 � � � � 2040 �Ii I � t J '� �� '�� - K ;� � � ieoo �� 6� � . s � �'�,r�' :±. .orrW.'� �� , � � �, =�: 12 `"' � � 0� � � �i =;, � � �; G .. � r.t�� _..��e' , ,si��' '�i.z�.,. . ".� 1 _ . � .. . i .s� yr � �"'+� .tate�. �� 19 '' wj . .� L.. � F'" r -�e.�:__.. �,;� �j ,�.,. _ �. � /- r„ �: � _ ( • � xq � �,� ��s��aww� � a'� �•�►'�f .� .ax+M �• 4, �� '� � _��.�� I � A � � � .t ��i�' � � � "� i�i � � � _ � � '� . » __ � - �; _._ . � �.� � ' �. � r� �i � " � � "- :. 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DATEs �'0; FROF�s R�: 3 July 19$5 Plann�ng Com�i��i�ra aa�d Couneil N��r�rd D�hl�� R��ur�r�� P�rkin� R�qUir�ments An��ysi� ��oK�ng th� aperrl�� a��' Lh� t�o ��a�a� res�aur��nt� tn �tos�vii��o �h�� o� ��aaaard snd��car�'� ��1� �o�p�n�r a�d �'uddru��k��^�, i� �ec��a� �ppare�� imm�di�tel� �ha� iC bu�in�� Qo�t�nu�d t'o� th��a� �a�s� r�scta��r��t� �� h� p�c� �vid�r��+d taa �h� ftr�� f'��r �e��k� o�" �p��lc��, �h�re r�ould b� � p�r�cin� p�obl��. �� o�" �h�� r��ura�� unlqu� �� ►� �u�h a� bo�� r� l�rg� publle �+�f�ing �pa�� ir��1d�� h��r�r �. �a��n�i�� l�qucr ��c��r�� b��ra��, �r��d �o � �e�r�� 'una��n� �►� '"�ir��l�"� ��". �r°�a� �yd�n, t?�� y Fi�� t9�r�F�a�IA r�� t��dia�e��r �o�n��r��d � bou� �h� �e+��a t b � l i �� o�' +��t�r$t��4� v�N � � i �r� � �D� a�t� ��a �ae��r�n�d �b�u� �l�� -�°��g@ �fP�a� ah�n �k�� +�� ddg��n�� C�uain�� C�b� i�� r� �erap��+��d �s �� a+��I�h�r ��r�� ou�d b� �de�u�� p��k�r�$ +�r� th� �� a �� yo� kn�a�, �� 'aur � �, t$� h�v�r ��u� � p��t f r�� r,t� t � � k� � �hapQ� �� Q�nC�r � �� p��wc�c�� f'�� o p��k Wh��+� �N�� ch��c�. Dc�� t�c� �h� di��'�r��a�� tn p��k hau��+ t�� a°aa��y �� k�e ra�r� �f�#��t�� wmy �a han�di� p�r�Ci�� i� ar�� Qf' �h� r��Qr�� ,�ay �h+�pp�n� e�r�� p�rk l�� r�sark� s� wel i�a � t d��s, F��a� �a�th t.i�� p��na�i�l prot��c�� tw� ��p� s��r� �ak�r�o �lr�� c�f ��, �� initi��d a� par°ktn� ��1�s�� of th� �c�o ��at�ur�r��p ��d �� f�i�i�t�d p�tea�ti�l Rar�in� Qf ��r�sion on �Mt� �s�� ran�d r•l�h+�-c�f-��y aes��].y �f �t�e �arvic� r�c��d ��rv��g �k�� t'sur prap�r�ir��. In c�ap�r�tio� wf.Gh 9iY� �ine (dev�iep�r ot' th� l�nd� �nd �t�e Di�tric� �tin� Ri�hr-s�f-way ��inA��: �?�'ee�� d �e�st� �"er ��i�V too ��^ki�� h�v� b�� d��:��mir��d. It i� �r��i�l{��rd, hc��gvqr, th�t n� derfi�it�vc� ��tlon wi�i b� t�k�n o�t pt•or�fdin� roe�r� parkir�g sp�ee until �� t»ve �xperi�no�d �he c��d �� b� �n�lyzQd �,f�� tl�e four busi�n��soa ar� op�en. � At�aehed is a copy of ari �na,lysi�s of floar spaee use, seating eapaefty, and parking eapae;,tyr. Thf� �tudy also inelud�s a sur��ary of s�lected Metropolitan Communities' restaurant parking requirements. In response to tl�e Planning Commi�sion's expr�ssion of eoncern regarding parkin� r�gula�ions and needs, the rEsults of the study thus far eould s�rve as � b�si� fQr Planning Cammission discu�si�r�. A� notsd tn the memo, our next step is to conduet a�imil.ar analysis of sever�l ath�r Aos�ville re�t��arant�, some �f whieh !'unetion as more typical restauranis, taking �e�ervations, and not �llow:tn� for larg� pub�ic waiting sp�ces, which substantially incr�as�s parkin� demand. T'hi9 materia2 then cr�n g@rvo a� an in�tial revfew of the parking problecn, �ri�h a�,a�^ger overview o�' restaur�nts and oth�r p�rkin� i��u�� to b� added a� � subse+�uent �na�ting. � �� 0 0 r1�I u � Consulting Planners One Groveland Ter�ace (612?377-3536 ._ pdinne�nolis __ ihinnesota 55403 Dahlgran, Shardlowy and Ub�n/I ncorporated � MEMORAIVDUM DATE: 10 May 1985 � ,. T0: Steve North, Assistant City Manag�r � City af Roseville FROM: Howard Dahlgren RE: Parking Requirements � As requested we have condueted a brief study of restaurant :; parking requirements with the intent of possibly altering th� City's requirement forr�ulas in the or�dinance. The problem, as you know, seems most acute where restaurants i.nelude � significant lounge areas, or where dining space is used for lounge purposes. Provisions for larger than typical publie waiting areas also pr�sents a higher�parking need. � � Da(ilgren, Shardiow, and Uban/Incorporated MEt�inRANDUM DATE: T0: FROM: RE: 377 26 April 1985 . Howard Dahlgren Paul Blais Analysis Of Parking At Fudruckers and Stuart Anderson Cattle Company Our study began with an analysis of the parking provided at Fudruckers and Stuart Anderson Cattle Company restaurants. We have compared the interior space usage to the parking provided to use as a base line to measure the impact of any proposed revised parking standard. Gordy Beseth loaned us the building plans for this purpose. Attached is a copy of the interior space allocation of use footage. FIIDRQCKERS Total Gross Square �'�eet. . . . . . . . .10,000 Square F�et Total Seating . . . . . • • • . . . e . . . . . 264 Seats Required Parking: @ 12 spaces per 1,000 S.F. (gross) . 9u Spaces @ 1 space per 2.8 seats e....... 9� Spaces Parking Provid�d. . . . . . � . . . � - � • • . 139 Spaces Interior Space Usage US� Dining Publie TOTAL SEATING 264 0 26� SQUARE FEET 3,213 995 �1, 208 -1- NET SQUARE FEE'T PER SEAT 1c.2 0 16�.0 � Existing Farking Relationships e Spaces per Seat , �•9 . . . . . . . . . . Spaces per 1,000 Square Feet (gross). . 17•� Gross Square F'eet per Space ..• a•• 58•� Net Square Feet per Space ....... 30.0 • STUART ANDERSON CATTLE COMP�NY (25�+/ 139 ) (139�8) (8,000/139) ( �+, 208/ 139 ) Total Gross Square Feet ...... 10,000 square feet Total Seating . o . o . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 320 Required P�arking: 120 @ i2 spaces per 1,000 S.F. (gross)• •'`� 115 @ 1 space per 2.8 seats . . . . . . . . . 158 Parking Provided . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Interior Spaee Usage USE SEATING Diraing �21 Public � Bar � 51 Lounge TOTAL _ ��R 320 SQUARE FEET 2,630 985 800 550 4,965 NET SQUARE �EET PER SEAT 11.9 0 waiting seats not incl. 10.6 with�out dance floor � 16.0 with dance floor 11,� 16.0 Existin¢� Parkin� Relationships Spaees per Seat . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.0 Spaces per 1,000 Square Feet (�ross). . 63�0 Gross Square Feet per Space •••''� 31.0 Net Square Feet per Space . . . • • • • (320/158) (158i10) (10,000/158) (4965/158) COMPARISON OF PARKING RATIOS USED BY OTHER CITIES We have reviewed the parking requirements in various communities relating to restaurants that serve liquor and/or have lounge space. The following is a summary of the findings. -2- � L'J Bloom,ington �3loomington addresses resn�s�'�ha� aoanot�ve loung� space differently than rest�ura For the Restaurant they require 1 space Peri 2� seats k'or the Lounge they lo�unleeareapace per 35 square feet of � Broaklyn Park Brooklyn Park does not 4ddress restaurants that serve liquor differently than those that doequire 1 space per 3 For Restaurants they seats when there is.a floor plan OR when there is no floor Plfeethe requirement is 1 space per 35 square Brooklyn Center Brooklyn Center does not differ�nt�oa�otbetween restaurants that serve liQuForaRestaurantsathey require 1 spac� per 2 seats PLUS 1 space per 2 employees St. Louis Fark � St. Louis Park does not differentiate between restaurants that serve liquor and those that do not. . For all restaurants they require 1 space per 25 square feet net area. Bill Thibault mentioned that �e uarementeof 1espaceaper� 10 bec�me "singles" bars that a Q s uare feet would be closer to what is really required in those 9 type� of businesses. � � Min.neapolis Minneapolis requires off-street pabased unon�totaltPubli�th a liquor license. The formula�lse ua].s�the Seating � Area. Public Area divided by 5 q ercent equals Capacity. Seating Capacity times 30 P required off-street parking. This works out to 1 space per 50 square feet of Public Area. Burnsvi�le Burnsville differentiates taverns and restaur�oachfto parking requiremStaurantsey use a similar app Roseville for re �C� • � � � Arden I�ills • For Restaurants 1 space for each 3 seats OR 1 space per 100 gross square feet PLUS space per employee. For taverns the requirement is 1 space per 50 gross square feet PLUS 1 space per employe�. � There is no distinetiori between bars and / or restaurantse Al1 these types of uses require 1 space for every 3 seats. Sh�review There is no distinetion between bars and / or restaurants. All these types or� uses require 1 space f'or every 3 seats. Columbia Heights There is no distinction between bars and / or restaurants. All these types of uses require 1 space for every 3 seats. Fridley No disti.nction is made for the type of restaurant. All restaurants require 1 space for each 150 gross square feet. Coon Rapids No distinction is made between typ�s of restaurants. All restaurants require 1 space for each 2� seats OR 1 space for� each 100 net square feet whichever is greater. Maplew�od Maplewood do�s not differentiatce between types of restaurants. All restaurants require 1 space per 50 net square fee�. S�JMMARY There is a great deal of variety in tl-!e approaches taken by communities in the Metro area. The approaches include requirements based upon gross square footag�, net squ�re footage and seating capacity. Few of the communities surveyed have separate requirements for establishments ti�at s�rve liquor. In diseussing these �ypes of requirements with the various planning departments there seems to be some conssnsus that establishments that have a larger portion of space devoted to lounges or attract a younger "singles" type crowc� need more parking than a typical sit down restaurant. -4- 1 � In determining if Rosevill� shQuld inarease parking � requirements for restaurants it is important to consider whether the parking problems are happening at all restauran�s in general or specifi� types of facilitie�. In terms of general. requirements Roseville appears to require s].ightly less than average. Based on seating Roseville requires 1 space for �ach 2.� seats. The highest requirement found was 1 space for each 2 seats and the low was 1 space per 3 seats. u C� Several communities also examine square footage in determining parking r�quirements. When parking requirements are based upon square footage the ability to r�design the seating plan is taken into �ceount. Roseville's requirement of 12 spaces per 1,000 grosa square feet is slightly higher than averag�. The highest requirement was 1 space per 25 ne� square feet and 1 space per 150 gross square feet was the lowest. The follo�ring is a comparison of what the two cases studied would require for parking if they wer� built in eaeh of the surveyed aommuniti�s. CITY F°UDRUCKERS STUART ANbERSON ACTUAL PRO�TIDED ROSEVILLE Bloo�nington Broaklyn Center St o I,ouis Fark Minneapolis Burnsville Arden Hills Shoreview Columbia Heights F'ridley Coon Rapids Maplewood Average 1�9 95 106 132# �69 85 80# 83 83 83 5� 105 85 97 # employee parking must be added to these 158 120 128 160* 199 � 100 100* 107 107 107 67 128 100 ______ 119 As the above table indicates only Brooklyn Center would require as much parking as was actually provided by the two cases studied. St. Louis Park would require 30 additional stall for Fudruckers and �1 additional spaees for Stuart And�rson. Roseville is abaut average when compared to ths surveyed communities -5-- � u � � Analysis Each of these restaurants has large portions of their buildings devoted to non-dining uses. Iedtto food orderangcandSpickup.l�This near1y�1,000 square feet devat creates an area where people who are not eating can congre�ate. Stuart Andersons also has a large portion of the area devoted to non-dining uses. The non-dining area is devoted half to a. Bar/Lounge area and half to a waiting area. Both of these areas allow persons to congregate in excess of the actual seating capacity. Both of these restaurants do not take reservations and both appear�to be doing a large amount of business. The unusually � large areas combined wi�mitaogcupancycratessabovedthetnormal dining room seems to pe P associated with other restaurants in the city. It app�ears that these large public areas are the main cause of the present parking problems each of the restaurants are experiencing. We have prepared several seenarios to illustrate the effects on these two faeilities. Sinee both facilities are already built we do not suggest that these facilities could be forced ta inerea�se parking but these examples do show how a revised parking star�dard would Roseville�l�ilar facility shou•ld one be proposed in the City of Seenario A This scenario assumes that the uateentl�aas9�mesaGhatffor8the seats per parking �pace is adeq roaeh typical facility present standards are adequate. This app addresses the large portions of publie areas that occur in restaurants that are lar6aceessiblertolth�Tpublie lessdard would apply ta all space bathrooms, coat rooms or areas person are nat congregating. lounges, bars, and wai.ting areas are all treated the same. Seating in these public areas is not ir�cluded in tNe seating count sinee they are calculated by a per net square foSinc�raula. Only the areas used for dining are based on seating. small restaurant would normally have some area devoted tQ uses other than public we perm�c��ae fThe�remainderrisfsubjectptolie non�dining area to be dedu the parking formu�a. The if the the or following table shows the1g�standard�heWeWhavescalculated they were to conform to th impaet by calculating a new amount of required parking and subtracting the parking they actually have the net exeess shortage is then shown in the table. � • � � NET SHORTAGE OR EXCESS OF PARKING UNDER SCENARIO A (aetual parking provided minus proposed required) Net Public Area per Space(less firs� 250 Square Feet) RESTAUFtANT FUDRUCKERS STUART ANDERSON 10 - 30 -130 16 18 20 -2 +3 +7 -52 -37 -26 Under this scenario applying a rate of 16 square feet per stall to the public area not used for dining appears �o give the best result and point to the observation that Fudruckers�is closer to the aetual parking needed than i� Stuart Andersons. This makes sense because they both have about the same spaces per square feet inet) yet Stuart Andersons has twie� the Publie area not used for dinfng only. Scer�ario 8 Scenario B fs based on th� same assump�ions as in scenario A exeept that we assume that the present standard 2.8 seats per parking space is not sufficient for any restaurant. We have recalculated the required parking as above and t�e•following table shows the net shortage or �xcess provided. The parking ratio proposed und�r seenario a is 2.5 s�at� per parking sp�ee• �1ST SH�ATI#GS OR BXCBSS OE' PARKiNG I9NDER SCEHARZQ B (aetual parking provid�d mi�us propa�ed required) Net Public Area per Space�le�s first 250 Square Feet) RESTAURANT E'UDRUCK�RS S�UAR'T A�IDERSON 10 12 14 � 29 -20 -1ob -81 16 1$ 20 _13 - g _ � -63 -48 -3? Th� above table shows that the amount of shortage has inereased. A rate of 20 sq.ft. of public area per space appears to be closer to a realistie ratio� Compared to scenario A, seenario B assumes that t4�e parking problem relaiing tc� large publie areas is less of a problem than in scenario A. In choosing between scenario A or B it will be nec�ssary to determine if the existing parking standard of 2.8 aeats per space is really too low or if we reall;y need to address large publie spaces within a �^estaurant. Seenaz�io A address just the public area whil� seenario B addresses both i�sues. _7_ Conclusions � Most cities in the Metro area are not requiring enbu�iltpa�The� for the very large restevotedstohnonadining uses�including � large amount of space d loun es, bars, and waiting areas allow pioulebeyondawhatnwouldl 6 around. This causes parking lots to fl p eal to younger normally be required. If these facilities app erowds then there is also a trendt�causenthesbuilding eapacity vehiele �o fill up the lot and no to be exceeded. The relationship °�F bututhetabilitypfor1Pe ple aecount for some of parking proble , to stand up instead of sit'tinB down seems to be the greatest faetor. There roay be a need for inereas�.ng the parking r'�9u�pe�Pa�� is based upon �eating. The r�quireroent of 2.S seats p �lightly lower than the communities �ationeto raiseht%�� he lowest. There appears to be justifi existing requirement of 1 spacn Pg��e's�aller res�auran�spto 2�5 9eats. We will be examini � determine the effects on smaller r�s��ua8or�inanee would��o �. Lt will b� important �o �por�typicalismall restaurants� Th�s require too aauch parking rari� f�r study wi11 th@n he�.P �� to deter�nine wha� the par°king public sp�ce should be• � � ..a�. � � FudruCk�rs �4�stac�rant � ! � � ��te�� ,��+��c�c�r� �a�tt� �c�mpa�y m June 24, 1985 � T0: FROM: SUB,7ECT : � �� Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Planning Office Hours - June 12, 1985 �• �u� = qgga7g65: James Luider, Jr. is the son of Henry Luider who owns the property of the west side of St. Albans S�reet coming north of Larpenteur. This property has a depth (ea�st-west) of a 120 feet,zoned R-1 and is occupied by a reside�ce and a series of greenhouse structures. James, Jr. is a cabin�t maker and was inquiring as to whether he could build cabznets in the garage. Our home occupation provisians ir� the ord�nanc� prevent such use in a garage. We noted the gt�les rel�ating to u�e af a single room, no employees, no retail and use of machinery commonly found in a home. In answ�r to h.is inqu�,ry, we told him that the greenhouse use is not canforrning, but may continue. James and his fa�ther are considering the b�st eco�omic use. We suggested that dia3.ding th� l�nd into singl� family lots may be most aPP�'oP��e in as much as street frontage and utilities are ava�tlable and probably largely paid for. We also discussed the pot�ntial 1�nd use to �he west which i$ indicated in the Campr�h�nsive �.1an, Medium Denssty Housing. Several d€v�l�pers �re 1.oaDcing seriously at thi� property. Jim noted tha� he is cansid@rir�g simply living in the house for an �xt�ndcd Per�ad af +timeo We indicated that the real cost of tl�at is the equ�ty in the investment; the annual lost is �qual to the in�erest on th� total valu� of the lots if they w�r@ p3�m��d and sAld. H� will discuss these options with hi� father and p�rhaps be back for futher cansultation. 2o Uni4n �ar� _ 484-6437: �ab Getts Jr. � Plan� su�p�rin��ndent and John Michaels, builder�?were�inito di�cuss the p�o�osed construatian of loading and unloading �acili�i�� tca�r e�as containers at the Union Carbide P1ant. We �x�laine�d th� p�op�cts far the immediate future regarding the Union �arbid� p1�r�t faciliti�s as it relates to the upcoming cc�nstruction o� th� bridge across 3SW and the potential for a ch�ng�� land t�se in th� ar�a in a�eordance with the B-4 zone which apglies to the prog�r.+:y in the area. We agreed that th� construction of th@s� sn�sll b�aildings, some of which were cwo story 1o�ding platforms �ould be inconsis�ent with the G�haract�� o� the dev�lopment proposed in the ar�a and wauld in�a�� iimaK� ic mare d�,F�icult ta a�commodate such deve�,og�ment, c,�e sur�gEsted that Union Carbide's interests are b�st s�rved if thEy think in terms ot an acquisition by Q�tM�� private parties or city in the future which could work in �heir favar a�d allaw them tQ develop a new plant more appropriat�: to their needs in a hetter location. We noted that as the land values go up and development occurs, the � taxes will increase and the city and their abjectives will both be best served if they think in terms of an ultimate move. Thus it is wise to conserve additional investment in the property, particularly development which will make the property less compatible than it alr�ady is with potential future development. Based on this conversation, they agreed to reevaluate their situation and did not press for approval for the construction of accessory structures for loading and unloading as contemplated. Their attitude was one of understanding and cooperation, though consultation with legal counsel may alter that status. � 3• Pope _ 291-8894: Jon Pope (Bob Pope's son), architect, Mike Righgels, Jon's assistant, Ken Tschida, developer, Dan Whittman, soil engineer and Dave Langenfeld, builder were here to discuss preliminary plans for the development of their 4.91 acre site at the southeast corner of Victoria and Highway 36. Yau will recall this property is indicated as medium residential in the Comprehensive Plan which would call for a R-6 zone. This zone at 4,000 square feet per unit would allow up to 53 units. 48 units are have taken twenty soil borings to establishrtheslocationyof the former gravel pit that functioned on this site. Luckily, the pit was located on the westerly third of the property, allowing for a reasonable distribution of units on the land. � The question of location of units that a�e within thirty feet of the Trunk Highway 36 right-of-way due to the noise impact. They are going to consider revisions to the plan, with the thought of ultimately applying for approval of ???? development and rezoning of the land in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan. These would be rental townhouse units from $525 to $750 per month per one bedroom and $600 to $700 per month for a two bedroom. In response to our they have indicated previous developments locatedqonSYankee Doodle Road and Mike Collins Drive in Eagan and in Mahtomedi at County Road 36 and Halem. 4. Devine _ 636-4390: Loren Devine, from Construction 70 building company was in to discuss the of the Precision Tune facility at the northeast cornerlofinent Hamline and Larpenteur. He brought in a indicating a 8 bay facility for the 2,500psquamenfootpretail store. The problem here is that the site has inadequate parking to support that many bays and that much retail facility. We discussed ways in which the site could be changed to increase the parking facilities and cut down the size of the building. We also discussed the possiblity of working with the property owner to the north which a from their photos to be usin ' pPears facilities. We encouraged themato considerlredevelopinglthe property but with adequate parking. s � 0 5. Victoria Station -(451) 461-4550: Edward C. McNamara from Victoria Station's National Ofiice in Larkspur, CA was in to discuss their proposed remodeling of the Victoria Station to be renamed "Bonkers". He indicated this new restaurant will be more on the order of Fuddruckers and that they have made this transition to other Victoria Stations in Chicago, Philadelphia and Woodland Hills in Los Angeles. The design was a suprising one to us, in as much as they merely covered the existing railroad cars with raw aluminum and proposed to put a 3/8" plywood skirt for the lower 4 to 5 feet down to within 6" of the ground, covering the exposed underside of the railroad cars. It appeared to us that this would look very cheap and would likely not pass building code requirements. We suggested that they consider more permanent type resurf acing of the exterior walls of the railroad coaches or tear them down and build new f acilities. We anticipate they will be back with alternative methods, though obviously their intent is to do this as cheaply as possible. We are very concerned about the esthetic impact on the restaurant district. The visual impact appears to be one of a cheap, mobile home with plywood texture 1/11 skirts. Texture 1/11 is a 3/8" thick plywood, frequently done is cedar with a 3/8" X 3/8" vertical groove every 4". It is used in the cheapest of construction and we feel would be inappropriate in combination with sheets of raw aluminum to cover the existing steel railroad cars. 6. Morss - 822-2350: Jim Morss, architect was back with a proposal renovate a automobile transmission repair facility at the southwest corner of Fairview and County Road D. This is an existing 2 bay facility which they have considered ways in which to expand the property. Previous plans have been unacceptable because the building is simply too large for the site. They propose, however, now to add no more bays but add a small storage area, but redo the site with new curbing and asphalt drives. This could substantially improve the property, but avoid problems of too much development on the site. Jim Morss proposes to file application for development approval, which would involve variances to the parking setback to the contiguous streets.' Additional dedication for Fairview Avenue is proposed in accordance with right-of-way standards. 7. Hess 488-7261: Roger Hess was in to discuss the tearing down of the older portion of his "Hess Hair Milk" facilities at the southwest corner of McCarrons and Rice Street. The oldest building was constructed in 1917 with an addition in 1929 consisting of 8,400 square feet. A later addition was added in 1939. They propose to tear down the older portions and replace with an 80' by 80' warehouse with an 18' ceiling. He notes that very little parking is needed on the site � because he and many of the employees live nearby. He suggested that though this is the case, that some off street parking will be appropriate. This could be constructed as we agreed. On the westerly side of the site in combination with ` an area for truck loading facilities to serve the new warehouse. Roger indicates that they do very little manufacturinq on the site, but wholesale some 2,000 items, which are distributed to the metropolitan area. We drew sor�e alternate plans indicating ways in which the loading facilities can be constructed, so as to avoid loading off McCarrons Blvd. as has been done in the past. Roger was very cooperative and it appears that a revised plan can be worked out that will substantially improve the property. 8. Anderson 934-7261: Scott Anderson, Bruce Yonehiro and Manuel F. Cabezas were in to discuss the reuse of the Vertimag Building which consists of 4,700 square feet on a 3.37 acre site. Vertimag Company has gone out of business, having failed to sucessfully mass produce the three dimensional magnetic tape product they contemplated merchandising. Delta Systems Electronic will occupy the major portion of the building (Yonehiro and Cobezas) and Scott Anderson proposes to utilize the remaining warehouse for mini-storage. Electronic manufacturing and the warehousing are both permitted uses in the I-2 District. Storage will be accomplished by dividing the interior into rentable spaces. The exterior of the building will remain the same. Roseville has no such mini-storage, but this structure will not look • like the usual mini-storage building with the continuous series of garage doors. We not�ed that any signs indicating the location of these two facilities will have to be on site and will not be allowed on County Road C. They agreed that this would be appropriate. It appears that this wi11 provide an efficient reuse of the building without adverse impact. They have an option to purchase the additional sixty feet of land to the east and are contemplating doing so to be sure that there is adeguate parking for the expansion of employees for the Delta Systems Electronics Company. � A �� 3000 I B � �� 2eeo � s� C� � o / � D ; 2640 :. rh rt I E � 2DY0 j F I , , �— 9� G ' � .I. 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Cenier St. Chandler St. Chats�rorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Da1e Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 B:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:l-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:I6 C-L:16 C,I-1 :11 E-H:11 L:19 L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. 6iesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S 6randview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington /tve. Lindy Ave. �,4,1I,13 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J:2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,D:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-0:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 B:1I,12 C:IO-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,l.:I7 J:2 C,D:13 l ;�1-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,�:12 Littie Bay Rd. A:17,18 • Long Lake Rd. A-F:3 Loren Rd. J:5 Lovell Ave. G:13-16,18 Lydia Ave. A,6:1,6-14 Lydia Court A:1 Lydis Or. A-6:14 Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 Manson St. g;l Maple Lane 8:1,7,8,20 Maple Lane Ct. 6:1g Ntarion Rd. N:3 Marion St. B-I,L:20 Matilda Circle F:19 Matilda St. B-D,F,G:l9 McCarron Blvd. H. J:18-20 McCarron Blvd. S. K,L:18-20 McCarrons St. B-D,H,K:11 hSidland Grove Rd. H:4 Midland Hills Rd. J:3 Midlothian Rd. H_I:g Mid Oaks Lane 8 Rd. J;8 Mildred Dr. A,6:6 Millwaod Ave. 6:7-8,10,13-15 Miila�od St. 8:1,19 �filton St. A,N,:14 MinrEsota A�e. G:18-20 Moundsview Ave. J:17 Mount Ridge Rd. A-D:5 Nancy Place G,H:14 Northview St. 6:2p Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,I2,15,18 Qakcrest La�e E:19 Old Highway 8 A-g;�_� Orchard Lane C:14 Owasso Blvd. S A-C:16-20 Owasso Blvd. N A-B:15-16 Oxford St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Parker Ave. I:13-15 Partridge Rd. 8:3-4 Pascal St. A-F,H-J:10 Patton Rd. A-B:1 PinevieN Ct. K:36 Primrose Curve D:IO Prior Ave. B-G,I-J:5 Prior Circle A:5 Rambler Court D:18 Rambler Rd. D:10 Raymond Ave. A-B:4 Rice St. A-L:20 Ridgewaod La. N� S J:8 Ridgewood Rd. p;g Roma Ave. L:11-13,I6,19 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,i5,1b,18 Rose Vista Ct. l:ll Rosedale Or. �:3 RoselaKn Ave. J:2-14,17 Rosew�ood La. N& S J:3-4 Ruggles St. K:11-13 Russell Ct. g:g Kyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Naok Dr. Sextant Ave. 5(�ady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St_ Sherren St. Shoretirood Cv. & Shryer Ave. Sirr�sons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Sneliing Serv.Or Snelling Serv.Dr. Southhill Dr. S.T.N. 35W S.T.H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. P S.T.H. 36 Serv. � S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbr�dge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Surrrner St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circ�le Transit Ave_ Trosettr Rd. Victorfa St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circ7e Nagener Place kagner St. Naln�t St. �lest Perimeter Dr. Western Rve. ldestwood Ci rcl e Wexers Road Mheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. aheeler St. Wilder St. killiam St. Hillow Circle Wiilaw Lane Noodbridge Circ7e Moodbridge Court iloodbr�dge St, Maodhill Drive koadlynn Drive i�oodruff Ave. La. W E R:17 ��'': F:9,10,12,15,1b,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,I0-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-6:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-ZO B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:19 E:11 � E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:ZO D:I1-24,17-18 A:9-10,�3,1a,Z9,Z0 K;28 Y�x � DATE: T0: FROM: RE: 1. � 2. �"� �._,� k�- , ,�,/�`t'�'� �...s�.L-,t,!...,:�..:�•t..• • ~.._.r ,.. 6 June 1985 Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Planning Office Nours - May 22, 29 and June 5 Burger King _ g33_g773. Mike Nordstram, local site engineer for Bur er King was in i.o review his propo�alRo d �aand Cleve land.K1We 9 restaurant at the southwest corner of Coun y discussed the location for the required aikesixk feet hwidetastnorma�ly foot inside the right-of-way with the w req uired. We alsa reviewed the signage proposals, all of which conform to Ordinance requirements except a si9e ,°Bur her King"dand�will which there will be one. This sign will e�a� Whichg has been dropped not i nc 1 ude the term "Home of the 4lhopp from their signage program. The roof is a mCes for lequ pment Sintthe it functions as a parapet with a recess spa center of the building. If the roof sloped at� ��debe eallowed re�The would be ciassified as a wall, and the sign roof however, is propos�d to slope at a 7:12 P� The an�onsidered�other to �the Building Codn jst�isSssignd on the � s�tructure but found no methods of handli 9 They are therefore proposing to apply for a alternative placement. variance to this one sign which may be processed at the July meet ng of the Planning Cor�nission. Nall - 489-13g1. Reverend Wielvin H�11 was �ead�Uarters officeysit� p ans for t eir northwest Christian A1lianc� q They have met again at the northwest corner of Garden ahborsXi and ��agreed upon desired w�th the three contiguou� �ei9 They Wi �include ra boa d iondboard landscaping and s�reening feat The •plan will illustrating their solution. f ence at the northwest carner contiguaus �o �ou��st� � he yMa y�PAthen There will be a row of Blue Spruce contig property (west side). The Mooney's on the nor�h pref�r no screen hed e or fence, but some informal planting fi��hi� 5�� Sa$ �hey tlid bui9ding. These folks are apparently satis not a pear at the Planning Commissi�n hearingS on ��d by Mr. Drown that p the land was recommended for rezoning. It wa the extension of the storm s�wer will be asce�sscondition to ttheir applicants should apply for this improyement app roual. The parking, as recommended by the �for� an ddit ionaldni�e f rom 26 spaces �ot 1Si de 1 of the c 1 ot 1 shou 1 d th�y be requ i red i n the spaces on the wes d termined by the City)• f uture ( as e --- `heir proposal �o 3, r� ,.��:�,,— Minnesota I'ec3erzl was in to dtsc�» ,.� a a ditional drive-up banking windows on the south side of their � s P ag e 2 � structure. We al so di scussed the potenti al for e te1 on �heh Wes g tWe Kugler Building which is contiguous to the�r prop y noted that others had been in to diacksof�harking,�fandh1 tsstlackuof which is difficult because of �ts 1 p urchasing street frontage. �le encourage them to consider seriously p the bu i 1 di ng, and addi ng i t to the t@dS1to �an off i ce uses ande prov i de down, the structure could be conver additional parking far the savings and iaten solution t fltheb"Kugler" This, we suggest, is �he most approp property use. 4. Parranto - 646-2638. Francis Parranto, ribut r� who needs a�fivesacre Paul realtor, has a Saint Paul steel dist site and a structure w�th 22,000 square fe�et �o �darinvolve a exter�o�r s�uare feet of office. This developmen storage of steel, obviously, a 26,000 � Quexterior stor ge9could beVa acre site is low inter�sity use, and t e problem as relates to the City's Po�i�y it �indust9ia 9 jand,in�@ncould attractive development in the reuse of recommend no s�te that wauld be b p mo�e a�propriat��99�sted that perhaps a locatian further out would e P �. Tschida - 459-4069p Ken Tschi�a P Trunk SNi� hway �� p�nd Victoriae project at t�e south�ast corner of 9 This is a 3.5 acre site on which ihey �Pr R 6 District which requires � unii buildings, which would confarm to t e 4,000 squ�are fe�t per �ni t. The problem � j i led ra el Upit�� a d 1 they the westerly por�tion of the site is a � prapose to p�a�e the units on th�e easterly s�� en��r�� them 9to fa�ni ly development c�rrtiguous un the east. 9nctude ti�e northerly p�rtion of �h� 1��i� � d�nsity�re id�n�#al� ��Ie shown on the Comprehensive Plan as me noted that the sensitive area in termnum��dnd��pr��p��ibitl��irisite the east, and they should be barne plan. �1e encourage their pweparation his will tobvi�usly� have i 9reat ex�ct sail �on�itions inasmucty as t impact on the ultimate sit� pian• 6, Thom son -�84-2204. Dorotl�y Thompson, a city emploYe�� lides at 3085 est Qw�sso oulevard and propases �h h�a �o tourC her 9homeeo�er �he f ront of ti�e i r res i dence. We went wi naon hour, and sketched a p�an that W�ttached to the homec��This�home of a two car garage at a iower l�vel, is well set back on a steeP s�°R�• �Qdafh the ldri �ew�yulandreliminate a significant red��ic�n in the gra th� earl i er prospect of bui 1�ut9or� hdst i ni� f acta b�en done �atr a�home lawn, n�ar Victoria. This so f urth�r �o the south on Victoria lin�ao��and work r W� back) and illustrates well how the solut�on wi 7Q Huiras - 633-2870. Terry Muiras proposes a lot divis�The ne� lot � ne ng venue service road, north of Snelling Curve. will be directly north of an existing single family home lot and will LJ Page 7 17. Hillstrom - 483-1664. Dick Hillstrom lives at 2803 Matilda Street, and proposes to add to his existing single family garage. The property is in a five foot setback area and he has ten feet of side yard with which to work. He proposes a nine toot addition, with an 8 foot door. We discussed procedures and requi�ements for a minor variance, suggesting that he proceed, working with the contiguous affected properties owners. 1$. Gjerstad - 484-1216. Ron Gjerstad, representing MGM Liquor Stores, was in to discuss his pylon sign. The B-lEf District allows for a 70 square foot sign and he has had �i 100 square foot sign built for his location. He wil:l investigate to see if the sign can be cut down to the 70 squaze foot size. The sic�n is located well back from Snelling Avenue, and thus would justify� a slightly larger size. Our ordinance provides for an incxease of the size of a�ign on a wall of one-half square foot for each foot the sign is setback greater than 60 feet from the center line of the public right-of-way. were this provision to apply td the pylon, the 100 �quare foot sign would qualify. They are attempting to get the pzoperty ready� for an opening within a week s�nd were operating under th� � impre�ssian that a 1�0 squar� foot sign was allowed. �l� suggest�c� a tempo�eary sign annou�ncing the op�ning on th� buildinq is �ppropriate arid allowsd. �1 ua�riance may be considered in the future, in view of the sign being set b�ck substantiallx fur�her thgn khe athers im this complex, � Page 3 � have a frontage of 163.2 feet. The land behind is marginal. North of this site, the City owns ponding property. This proposed division should be ready for the July meeting of the Planning Comnission. 8. Strom - 631-1463. Louis Strom lives at 2221 St. Stephen Street, and nas one of the few remaining lots that extends westerly from St. Stephen Street to St. Croix. She anticipates divided the lot in the same manner as other� lots to the north and south. There appears to be no problem with respect to this division inasmuch as each lot will hav� str�et frontage of 129 feet, and ha5 been approved for both contiguous lots with the same condition. 9. _C�p _t_ar - 298-10�6. Cash Cyptar is an attorney representing Karen J. Orensteen and�Larry Koulaska. They prapose to divide two �xisting lots (one of which has no street frontage) into two lots with frontage on Merrill Street. Part of the land is metes and bounds descriptior� and part r.�f the land is a platted lot. We agreed that the subdivision should cor.�e in as a plat to correct the very vague dQscriptfan of the metes and bounds parcel, as is required by the City's subdivision reg+c 1 at i ons. l.4• Po�e - 291-�89A. 6ob Pope� architect, was in to discuss a proposal on the part of dental clinic group to construct a medical bu�lding �f � approxirnat�ly 6,OOQ square feet at the northeast corner of Lexi�gt�� and County Road C. Bob had been in ta discuss this proposal on previous occasions ak which tim� ►�e infarn�ed h3m of th� City's pl�n to develop hig� d�nsi�,� ►nu�ti-family housing on this site and the prope��iies to th� nortt�, W� had noted th� City's policy af not ext�nding comme�rcial d�v�lopmenC on Lexingtar� Aer�nu�, sugg�s��r�g that i f a tota 1 dev e 1�pment paC�C age cou 1 d b� pr�par�d fc�� t� i gh der�s i ty ��sid�ntial, ;t rnigh+t bQ �ea�ibl� to consi�er• a�ma11 c�inic a� the sautha��st ��rn�r as a par�t �f an over�i l PUU solution. T�e prabl++�mm is, of co�:�s�� the dev�lopment of ��ir�gle comm�rcia� site c�u1d s�et a prec�denc�� far ex t�ns i on of �uc� ccxnmerc 1� 1 ac�, i�a 1 ty a 1 oo�g �L+ex i ng ton Av�nue. A total solutian wauld eliminat� t�at concern. 8�b nat�d thaC Gearge R�illir�g is not willing ta seKl his prop��y (1�e owns a l�rg�r piec� io �he nartlf�, t�� is�es to dev+�lop the i�nd himself in p�rt��ps twa vr thre�e xears, Acqu�sition af t�� singie f amily homes a�d the long narr�w s�rips of la�d ih�y oc�upy �vou�d lik�ly be diffiCult withvut tax incr�nent s��sidy for developm�nt of multi-fa�nily housing �withou� th� Reilling piece)� Th�y ar� tl�er�for�e go 1 ng Co atte�p� an arnendm�ent to t�� Cc�npr�t�ens i v@ P 1�n and an ultim�te rezoning sa as to proceed with er1� prr�p�r�y they intent to purchas�, which is the two soutl�erly-m�st t�o�nesit�s. The hame at the ex�reme s�u�hwest c�rner (northeast cornew of Co�unty Road C�nd l.��ington Avenu�) actually �uts 90 f�et sauth inCo tl�e right-of-a��y acquired by Rams�y G�un�,� many years aqo for the r�location Qf Coy�$y road C. ihe Caunty has proposed to p�rchase �his ho�s�, but abandaned � it after they had ciif�iculties ►vith the acquis��tion. Ti�e sout�erly-most iot (jutting in�o the right-of�-wa�) has 90 feet of frontage Qn L�xingxon and a depth of 250 f�e�. '�h� northerly lot i�as �6 feet of frontage wi�h a d�pth of 660 feet. TMe east�rl,y portion of this 660 foot deep lot is in what is obviously a permanent ponding � • Page 4 • area. If the development is approved, there will be an important need for pedestrian access from the future ccur at the east and west endtof park across County Road C. This can o the properties and is possibly desirable in the center as well. Though he is aware of the City s policy regarding business zoning on Lexington Avenue, he will planannedl for the�tremainder tof lthe alandeto realizing that the C�ty ha� pl the east and north to be high density resid�ntial. He no �hat�het has the C�ty were to oould develo �Sa multi'-fam lyaresidential PUD for the a developer who w P sout��erly half of the fiotal site. This may be worth considering. 11. ��a�rinc� - 822-2350. Jim Fearing °naSCount 9 Roadt 0, �which @site was sc�ut�ieast corner of Old Nighway 8 a Y �~ecently approved for expans�on of the building and occupancy of a portion thereof for an off-sale liquor store. Ne has no A df�ve �foot tear down the bujlding and buiid a new struct�re. var i ance to the park i ng setback was auti h i� im Andr�� wem noti f i d C the u s� � e r m i t w a s i s s� e d, C o n f e r r i n g w d ev elo per tl�at a new structur� could be built on the site a� h� S ha� �e� speci al use per�ni � ac daPa �s�n9 e mi t�wou9d not� hav� 1�to �be pro�essed. vari�nc� andJor spe p� structure would be done in briek or Mr. �earing agreed that the ne tiie �similar to the Ciiy Na31� $nd wnuld conform to �ther code r�quire�ents. �art of th� d�cisiQn �o buila a new bu�lding is the � �xistence of a 2p fo�t pCr50ndlr t� �� tn ,�I � p�,� ious�� ildir�g pwop�r�y i� f�vor of tl�e lan�io�� Th� end resul't� expan��on plan �nc;raa�it�d ar� tl�is easement ten f�et. , s ga4d f�r ti�� C� ty i nasmu�h as t�� get a ner� bu i 1 d i n�, be� �er s i tu+�t�d an t� h� prop e�' t y. !Z. l�ecc� -�18�-2�71. St�eve Z��c w�s in�tQ��n��coturag�ingp�irt�iyod�r�the �re+�t, e�st of Lak� �9cCarc�nr�, �t� t a� �a,� S CQ c�ns i ri�r� m�v �� th� operat i on� �� h�s �� e�n f��h i h l i s�zo��d pr�p�rty. Ne �w�s ��ot� f�, 7� 8� and , single �a�i l�r, ihou+gf� oc�upi�d as a n��-confvrmin� us� for sCor��ge pur�os�s for approxim�tely �1�i�•�y y��rs. � ��r,��inin��praper��►yby��n 1 ot, tr i angu 1 ar i r� shc�pe, sep�raC+ed f r�n �» 9 a� l,�y. k�� inf�r�ns� �s that h@ l�as r��tly disco��'ed t�m� this al i�► hns ndt be�n ��at�d. That �ot c�uld b� +�emb�� nstid�tr�r�g�farQsome debelapm�n� to the n�r�th, wi�ich ih� Ci�y has b�� kim�, �nd fQr wh3ch a lot division r�as r�G�ntly �pprav�d. S��ve infarms us Chat tt�e Renstrvm D��ta1 L�b accupying Lots 3� 4, ��td 5( exc�pt '�or �h� nort�i� 3� f��t af Lat 3� 15 al sa �ontempl �t 1 ng cl�ang�, that sLructur� naw b�ing too lar�e for lttieir o��r�tipn. S�ev�'s struc�ure and lan� is a strong cancl¢dAte� �or �"��e �o��ig�nal and ¢�euid �e a iv�ic;ai �ax �r�cr�m,.r�� dev..l _Q .._ str�uc,�ur� has b��n add�d to faur time� har��e�to�more app�rop�riat��uses the i�r�a (recagnizetl by St�ve) �nd a c g could substantially enh�ance the lake, park, and residential ar�a to � Che WeSt. • Page 5 � 13. Sheeh - 487- Y 1411. Ed Sheehy, contractor, and John Skoglund, from Luther's Barb�que, were in to discuss an error that has occurred in the location of their structure. The surveyor apparently mistook two separate dimensions on the southwest side of the buildirog 'ndicated as 5 foot and 4 foot (5 foot for the walk and 4 foot for the planting strip next to the building) to be 5 foot, 4 inches. Thus, the foundation is now laid 3 foot, 8 inches �o the southwest. They propose to reduce the sidewalk width to three feet, and the plan�ing area to 2 feet, 4 inches. No change veill occur in t1�e driveway locations or parking spaces. Under these conditions, we feel that it would not be n�cessary to reprocess the PUD approved for the site. Later in the day, Ron G�erstad, froen MGM Liquor Stare was ir� and concurred that the movement was no prablea� ta him, We h,�d received a letter from a►t attorney representing MGM �.iquor St�re n�j�cting to the building change, but they had ur�de�stood it to b� a movemen� toward the northwest, rather than the southw�st. We gave Ran Gjerstad the lett�r, with h�s concurrence that there is no problem re�res�nted by this error i�n building l�cation. John Skoglund also r�equested a change 3n the roo� �naterial on his building from s�anding ribbed meta] to ��dar shakes. Ne noted t�at the standing ribbed roofing was sir�ilar to that us�d an the Stuart Anderson Cat�ie Comp�ny building, and inasmucH �s th� City was looking for san� continuit,y of design and vs� afi ma�terials, felt th�at � such ,� ci�ange wra�ld b� b�s� no� don�. Th�y a�reed to l�av� th� ropf material as proposed. John Sika�lund �lso inf�rmed us that d�e t,� �hanges in �h� sdl� of Luther's �ran�hise, tha� 1�i� res�aur�nt m�y h�v� ,a� ��ff�rent n�m�. W� �ot��d th�� t�� ty does not attempt to cont�ol the r�ame �� the r�staurant. Me said th�t a� 1 other� e�c�n+�nts of ttt� proposal a�i 1 i r�a i n�s p 1 ar�r��d �n� �ppwov�d. �4. Paulson -��6-�3Q1. R#ch�rd Paulson propos!�s to bu�ild � d�pl�x �r� his s i� s�u �� S i t, ov�� 1 aok i ng �he p9nd i ng are�� to th� sa�u t��as �» fihe dup��x�s �c�� pl�r�n�d dt �p�roxisn��1X �I04eQ0�Q ��ch e�itk� two car gar��g+es +�or e�cl� un�t. ti� h�� discuss�+d �h1s proposa� at�th �onti�uo�s n�igi�bors �� will �� ubmi�Cing �n appiic�ti�n f�r r�zoni�nc� fr�m R-� �o R-2 an� a div�si�n �f a int, This wiil 18k,�1y cane b�for� �� C�unci� a�. iCs �0 Ju�►� �e�ting. The prop�rt� �As 152.69 f�� ef franC�� a��er �hich ti}�r� is � 50 foot stonn aat�r ��sem�nt on tt�� e�s ter 1,� s 1 d� �f �1�c� pr�pe�t�r. The ��nd to th� ��s t�� one t f en� �r�� zoned for busir�ess, b�t �s r�ow dev�lop�d witt� dupiex �nits. W�th con�igu��s busin�ess zoning, this size cou1�J hav� ��,o�aticail�r qu� 1 i f i ed f�r cnn� t ruc t i on of t� c�up 1�x u�d�r �th� "CrB�s i t ��na 1 u5�� s�ctto� ��` Che Zoning Ordinance. 15. '�i�r -�i2-1Qi�^., �ad� �tefr� de�relvp�r-, Jim L�ar,y, realter, a�td Sue Nordstrom, ��v�'s �^.�nomic anaiyst� wer� in tcy d�scuss th�eir progress � taward putting toge�her tli� property ea5t �f I-35W, w�st af Cleveland A,ve�iue cansisting of a2 tatai acr•es. Th�y reipor��d that �hey nnw have co�ntrol nf al� the restdential prop�rties except �four parcela. They are also nearing completion Qf an arrangem�nt to purcl�ase the Garret trucking site sou�h nf County Road C-2 alignment. He esti�ates his Page 6 � acquisition costs at $4.67 per square toot (Loehman's Plaza ran approximately $7.00 per square foot). The single family homes are running from 1.5 to 2.0 times the assessor's market value. This likely averages close to th� 1.7 times market value that evolved in the Loehman's Plaza land acquisition package. We referred again to the concept where the City might b� willing to hold the Garret land as part of a tax increment proposal, so as to enhance its potential north of the pondinq area, owned by the City to the south. Jim Andre enc�uraged them to prepare a preliminary development plan that could be discussed with the Council in the near future. This would serve as a basis for further discussion of a potential tax increment program. Dave inclicated his intent for the land north of Co�anty Road C-2 to be a"high-tech" park, similar to what 1lnited Prop�rtie� has rapidly devolopod in Mendota Heigh�s. Dav� i.ndicatc:d h� would attemp� to have a prelim�nary �ieP plan within 30 days. Jim Andre indicated that h� ha� r�ceived some calls from property own�r$, and would �ik� th� Council ta be well infor�ned as soon as pr,�ssible. D�ve intlica�s�d� �s h� has in �h� past, his concer� with ��s�ct to ei�� dov�loprn�n� on �he Qast �ide of C1ev�Iand. ,� Tha�► arQ puttinq tagether ��sessor"s mark�t valufl figur�s for th� ��oa from Cl�v�la�d over to i.ang�on t�eke, Th�s� a�� r�Yiminary ir��igations �nd no �attempt will b� mad� �+� acquir� land ir� �his ar�a until thQrQ are mor� s1Q��n,f��vo �d,is��,�s��ans aai�th the City. lb. ��.terr - fi44-9502. ��Q R�it�r's m��h�r owns �h� ic�ts that �r��c� p��ttQd r��van o� eight years ac�cs around tha ��nd�ur�t �u�.=d�-sac, wo�� o� t��tQrn Avenua tsQuth of '�rt�nk �9i�h�a�y 36 �. �hay �av€� �o�d onQ o� thc� l�ts, a�d �p��ar�ntly� a�e hav�ng �or�� dSfficul�y� in ��13nc� �h� rem�incic��. �i� exp�es��d concarn a�out tha gss�ssm�n�� whi�h hc� r�a�c�d ru�a �7, OAO �c� 8�, 0@0 �aor �o�. 1►t� s�gg�stQel th�►t s�ch �osts �rQ n�� inappr�pri�te for singla f�f ly ,lot� �in Ro�c��i�l� tcad�y �n� tha+� +�h�ir s�i�es �t�ntial a�ay ��a ��tla��d ta �ricr�* k�c� in�utrQd as �o a�ro� hous�ng �ul�sidy �rc�c��ms ��ila�ble �ay the Cit�. w�� iraformt�d him thac th� City t��s nat anc�aged in �UCh A�'OtJ�81418 for �inqle �ami�y derv�lap��nt �nc� ti��+� th� damenc3 fa�: lot� i� Rosowi��cr is such �ha� 5uch pragrar�s w�uld not lik�ly be pu�su�el. `�hay a�e 8pp��n�1� rc�l�actant eo c�iue it to a raal�o� tc� so�l, �o �his msy� simpZy ►�� a probl�m a� th�a lot� �eir�r� ove�x�ax,icor�. �� rteat�ed that "'land� is w�arth what som�Qne r�ill pay Ec�� it", and tl�at the� ma� wish to con&id�r �ng�gine� �hQ ��rvicfl� of � pro�essional reaitor as m,�tay a,n the City o� Ras��►il�e hav� dotte in th� past. � � � ~I � gI � � � � � � I `°i �I � .�! . � _I � . �I � <J � ' I � � L �! � � �, �'T � f � �'I � 6 'O ' 7 °� � v � ' � `�I Z� � � � r � / �- «.� �� i � , . � , � � � � � �� S ' 3120 n rr K r. so. eo. 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Planning Office Memo 1. Jensen: � - June 19, 1985 � �..�..�.n.�c.,.Q -�-�-�-�r Jensen is an architect who C. R. Heckworthy has hired to reconsider the design of his three lots Northeast of McCaren's Lake. They are also looking at the possibility of buying Zeis' lot on the south side which is zoned R1, but used for machinery storage (nonconforming). The architect is looking at possibilities for zero lot line duplexes again. The concern here is the impact on the immediate single family home to the North, and a design that will not adversely effect the neighborhood. 2. Goldstein: 375-1818 Bruce Goldstein and Craig Oberlander are looking for a seni.or citizens' market rental housing site for Ebeneezer Homes. They have th�ee hundred units underway at Ridgedale (north of Highway 12� and feel the market in Roseville is right for additional senior citizens housing. They proposed a 221D4 Program. We discussed various potential sites in the city. They are going to examine possibilities and likely be back for further consultation. 3. Minners � 312-449-�191a Mark Minners and Ray Krull represent i�entucky Fried Chicken franchise, and are looking for a site in Roseville. Their site requi�ements are a minimum o£ 25,000 sq. f t. to 40,000 sq. ft. (about one acre). We reviEwed properly zoned sites in Roseville, of which there are very tew for such a purpose. We did not encourage them in any of the tax increment areas, but pointed out restaurant patentials within the shopping centers. 4. Modjean 866-3322 Nlar}c Modjean lives at 2106 West Skillman and was in to discuss a minor variance regarding a rear yard setback for an additi.on on his house to hnuse an indoor pool. The addition will be 40' x 35', and will be built within 24' of the rear lot line. He has discussed this with the four affected neighbors and ii appears to be a reasonable variance inasmuch as the lot depth is minimal in this case. r1 �J � •� 5. Graham �� Bob Graham - 644-6139 i Mr. Graham was in to discuss the possibility of developing a liquor store at the southeast corner of Lexington and Roselawn. The problem here is that Kath has sold the service station on the corner, leaving an L-shaped parcel which is very difficult to develop effectively for the size and shape desirable in a new liquor store development. We suggested that he attempt to purchase a11 the land and do it right. 6. Oberle 636-6400 Mike Oberle is an attorney representing Robert J. Lewis at 2176 West Highway 36. The proposal is to provide access to a landlocked parcel south of Highway 36 frontage road and west of Acorn. This pa�cel has been l.andlocked for many years, and access can be provided northerly to highway 36 by utilizing a portion of the property owned by Mr. Lewis. This proposal will likely appear as a preliminary plat in the near future. 7. Merz • 920-4719 Steve Merz, Ian McTavish, and Dick Rare were here to discuss signage for the Pavillion Place shopping center. They proposed two pylon signs, one of which would be very large to include signage for the United Rrtists movies theatre and the Pavill.ion Place shopping center. The Ordinance allows three pylon signs for a shopping center (total) up to 200 sq. ft., 35' high. They proposed a plan to combine the movie theatre sign and the shopping center sign at the southwest corner of the site to see if it had merit. Tts size is in the vicinity of 550 sq. ft., which we suggested is out of scale with the Ordinance and other shopping center signs in the area. We suggested they separate the signs and keep the maximums within the Ordinance limitations. They also discussed some ensuing problems with Williams Brothers Pipeline regarding landscaping on the easement north of the center. They are continuing discussions with Williams, which may result in the changing at som� of the species. They are also going to discuss the possibility with the neighbors of putting some of the landscaping on their yards, if they so desire. We suggested that changes in design can be made, but that the total commitment and level of quality must remain the same. One of the problems with the Williams Pipeline u � easement is the depth of fill that can be placed on the pipes, and of course, the type of planting. We suggested they continue the work, ironing out the problems as soon as possible so that changes, if any, can be processed soon, and not left to the last moment. • � May 14, 1985 • T0: FROM: SUBJECT: O � Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Planning Office Hours - May 8, 1985 1. Northwestern College - 636-4840 - Don Erickson is the president of Northwestern College, of which the southerly portion of the campus is in the City of Roseville. He was in with Glen Peterson, of the college, to discuss a roadway which they have built to function as the southwesterly exit from the campus. The City, several years ago, approved a Planned Unit Development which provided for a deviation of this roadway from that which was originally constructed. Unfortunately, that roadway was also cleared through the trees, but not built. The roadway they have bui�t is closer to the pond which lies in the west-central area of their campus. The roadway was moved so as to create a larger area for athletic fields and the siting of a future athletic building. However, the new alignment (constructed without approval from the City) usurps a good deal of land that we feel could have b�en used for building sites in the future. This was not true for the minor deviation proposed earlier and approved by the City in the Planned Unit Developme�t. They also propose to add additional dormitories very close to that wh�ch was approved in the original Planned Unit Development. This structure will be nArtheasterly of the exi�ting dormitories, and will include an enlargement of the existing parking area on the northeast side of the dormitories. The parking shown, however, is closer to th� single family homes on the east side than that which was approved originally several years ago. The newly construct�ed roadway passes through a drainage swale which has b�.en partially filled, This, too, may be a mistake inasmuch r�s Mr. Honchell pointed out that additional ponding may well be necessary on this side of the campus. I drove up and lo��ked at the site on the evening of our meeting, and n�ted that the potential ponding area is now partially fil�ed with large slabs of concrete. Obviously, it was their intent to fi11 the entire hole, which was created by damminq off the swale with the new road construction. Mr. Honchell explained that concrete curbing would be required for the roadway, and they are concerned about the additional cost. � LJ Page 2 � the circumstances, we suggested strongly the Under appropriate action for the college at this time would be to hire an experienced campus planner, so that some of the obvious alternatives and trade-offs can be examined. Our experience in campus planning, including the plan we have just completed for St. Benedict's College, suggests to us that it is in the college's best interest to carefully examine how they are using their land. Mr. Erickson indicated they are going to give serious consideration to this proposal. The college now has 900 equivalent fu11-time students, with a maximum student enrollment anticipated at 1200. Ndr. Erickson indicated they have gotten buildinq permits from Arden Hills to "fill in" two of the courtyards in the "gymnasium" structure. This, too� may be a mistake. He indicated they are prohibited from adding additional building square footage (expanding the outside perimeter) for a 10-year period in the City of Arden Hills. We noted the City of Roseville and the college have always maintained a cooperative arrangement, and that we hope that cooperation will continue. 2. Kohnex - 483-1698 - Kathy Kohner �nd her husband hav� a � house at 2872 Marion Street, which is the southeast co�ner of Marion and County Road C-2. They propose to add a 6-foot addition along the front of their house, which will place the struc�ure 33 feet, 3 inches off Marion Street, and 27 feet off County Road C-2. Her plans indicate tt�at the homes along Marion Street are plac�d 39 £eet, 3 inches fram the right-of-way. She is goinq to re-check triis, but if so, it would r�quire a variance to place it at 33 feet, 3 inches. We suggested she apply for a minor varia�nce and include the plans of the interior of the house justifying the six-foot expansion to ttae west. It appears this varianc� is not serious. She already has the appraval of the affected property owners. 3. Concordia - 484-84i9 - Ray Hauer, principal of Concordi� Academy, and Jim Morris, from the Lawrence Siqn Company� were in to discuss their application for a temporary siqn permi.t for two signs, each of which would be placed thirty fee� back from Dale Street, and the right-of-way of Trunk Highway 36. As you will recal.l, they were in previousl,y to discuss the placement of signs announcing the school is the 19�4 Girls Volleyball Champions. The approp�ia�e information was submi.tted to be placeci on the C�ouncil agenda for the May 13 meeting. We suggest that thrs type of sign is quite often put up around the m�tropolitan area for this purpose. 2hey ask for no specific time limit, but we � �uggest a period of one year would be appropri�te. Page 3 � 4. Kowalski - 644-9079 - Larry Kowalski was in representing his daughter, Karen Orenstein, and his grandson, Kevin Orenstein, who own two lots between Fernwood and Merrill. The one owned by his daughter fronts on Fernwood (1843 Fernwood), and is contiguous to a property to the east which fronts on Merrill. They propose to divide the land into lus two new three lots, the existing frontage on Fernwood, PWe suggested lots with 80 feet of frontage each on Merrill. he hire a surveyor, and prepare a preliminary plat. Mr. Kowalski indicates they propose to sell one of the lots to the Michels people for purposes of constructing a single family hom�e. He noted that lots to the north are existing with 80 feet of frontage each. 5. Struble - 298-4221 - Roy Struble has a triangular shaped piece of land on North McCarrons Boulevard, and proposes to divide the property into two lots. Th�re is more than adequate land area, though the second lot would be better i£ it fronted to the west, where at one time a north-south cul- de-sa� was proposed to provide frontage to t�his lot and others to the n�rth and west. This cul-de-sac was not constructed, the land having been purchased by a person not wishing to d�velop at thi� time. The cul-de-sac was p,roposed about 7 or 8 years ago by contiguous land owners who were interested in developing. Ultimately, w� feel � that this cul-de-sac will be cons�ructed. P�rhaps th�se neighb4rs should be canta�ted to determine th� PxO9�OStrubl� its construction in the near futur�. Otherwise. Mr. could divide his land with �rontage on McCarrons Houlevard, though this is not th� most1i�Prandiwilldlikelyn5ubmitWit� prepare a p18n for a lot sp , in th� near futur�. The occasion �f th¢. public he�ring before the Planning Ce�mmission may b� the appropriate timE to discuss this with the affect�d a��ighbors. 6, Pettersen � 536-9105 - Gunnar Petters�n, el�ectrical insp�ctor for the City, was in to discuss a variance to place a siqr� on Count� Road D on the north side o� his �rop�rt� at th�e southw�st corr�er of Wilder Str�et anu County Ftoad D. Gunnar owns two lots here, with his hom� and a beauty parlor located in a singl� skructure. i3is r�sidenc� is located on the southerly lot (zon�d R-1) and the bH�u�as parlor is located on the northerly lot (zoned B-1). a 16-car parking lot on the west side of the northerly lot. At th� entrance to this lot he has already placed a sign about 3 feet by 4 fEet, with two signs �nc��Y it indic�ting s�ecial prices for hair cuts. He inquired about getting a varianc� to allow the signs to be on th� right-of-way l.ine. ��le sugges�ed that an appropriate size sign could be placed 30 feet back fzom the right-of-way as rc�quired by ordinance. � The B-�1 district allows a�hisq�ur�ose�t wegareWconc�rnedd be larger than needed tor P p � Page 4 that if we allow signs of this type of-way, where no apparent hardship will be set that will be difficult he examine a solution within zoning contiguous to the right- exists, that a precedence to contain. We suggested requirements. 7. Rocheford - 291-1750 - John Rocheford is with th� Comm,unity Development Corporation, an arm of the archdiocese of St. Pau1, involved in the past construction of some 1600 low to moderate income housing units in 25 locatifons in the metropolitan area. About 65� of these units are HUD, 2Q2 Section 8 developments. The most r�cent projects were in Robbinsdale, Edina, Little Canada and Newport. Rentals in the units in Little Canada are approximately $Q00 per unit, They are looking for a site to build approximately 40 units, which typicaily would be a three-story brick building. Occupants are proposed to be 62 years old; 30$ of incom� is the normal rent. Community Development Cflrporatior� is a �O1C3, non-profit corporation. The units pay taxes, �hough the taxes are lower as a part of the �ubsidy. We reviewed pote�ntial multi-fa.mily housing si��s in the City in accardance with the Comprehensive Plar�. F�e seemed � most inter�sted in the triangle-shap�d portion c�f land owned by wi].liams Brothers P.�peline, northwest of Nic�hway 8• ane af the criteria for the cicierly housing is that it be near shopping facilities. Rasevill� has very few site� that fulfi�l this requireme�t, �1e also noted they normally pravide .5 p�rking spac�s per unit, �nd ti�at on�y one-third to one-q�arter of the occupants hav►e car� at a�l. H� noted there i� �n allocation for 13� units in thc� mQtro are through th� t��tro Council. N� is haping �o get a Pa�rion of th�t allocat.�on, and would �r��r a sit� ,in Rosev�llQ. L_J a. Skalickv -�74-0�45 - Jim Skalicky was back with his �i�e pl�n for th� @urposc of applying for a vari�nc� to construc� an 8 x 16 foot "hot tub room". As not�d in an �arli�r r@port, this room wil,l be buil� away from �he lak�. we ask�d him to pr�par� a sit� plan that shaw�d �he lot bound�ries, and that it be submitt�d on May 9 for refer�al to the Council at its Ma y 13 meeting. Th�xe �gpeaxs to b� na �arobl�m with r�spect to this proposal as it r�lates �o thE Shar�lanrl Zoning Ordinanc�R 9. Nale��y - 699-3135 - Don 1v$�� $s � company �all�d F.�rst I�andmark euilders, and proposes to build a 2A x 36 fQot addition to Greg Bundlie's hom@ at 595 H�inel Driv�. Craig �undl�e (pr�s�nt a� the meeting), and his neighbor, Rol� Reinhart, �ach purchased half of a 67 foot lot between them. This gives Craig Bundlie 102 feet of frontage on Eieinel Arive. ThuS, the additior� can be added to the house without Page 5 � violatin o g rdinance requirements. The addition will house a 12 x 24 foot bedroom, and a 24 x 24 foot garage. We requested that the site plan be slightly revised to indicate structures on the land to scale, and to include the new driveway to the garage. The addition, though attached to the house, is set back further from the lake than the oriqinal house. The house appears to be 85 feet from the water line. Thus, there appears to be no apparent pro}�lem with respect to this proposed development as it relates to Shoreland Zoning. 10. Ha11 - 48�9-1391 - Reverend Gordon Ha11 was in to discuss the status af their proposed rezoning and constructian of an offic@ building at the northw�st corner of Lexington �nd Garden Av�nue. This structure is a one-sto�y hip-rooted office buildinq, which was supported by the contiguaus r�sidential neiqhbors. �he Planning CommissiAn turned down the amer�dment to th� �ompr�hensive Plan on a s�lit vote, noting the City's polic� not to Further commerciali�� Lexin�tton A�enu�. Mr. Hall canfirm�d that this would b� a non-t��cabl� pro�erty (b�ing a r�ligious headquartersl, This paint wss left som�what ambiguous at the Plaraning Gommi�ssio� me�ting. ��t� suggestec� they mak� a s�raightfoxwa�d � �ar�s�ntation af th�ir proposal to t�e Cs�uncii, answer �ny qu�$tians, �nd await �he Council`s d�ci�ion. I� tho Counca.l v4tes �a am�nd the C�m�r�h�nsiue i�,l�n, the Cour�cil coul� r�f�r tih� rezoning r�qu�st to �he Pl�anning Commissiocr in the nr�rtnal manner. t�te also sugc�est�d they worDc dira�tl� with eh� neighb�o�s, �who expres��d �om� conc�rn �Qgaxding the p�.ann,�ng of eh� screening, pax�icula�ly an th� northwQst cor�ear of �he site. Though �h�so �oighbo�s �xpressad eencern about Ch� screenin�s th�y did not c�ppose th� d�v�lo�ment. 1�. North��stern Bell T�1� han�e -�66-I036 -�t�d St�rm� Je�hn Gr�bQzy, and D c�c R�e wer� r� fronn Northwos��n ecll to discuss their pro�c�sal t� �onstruc� a r�mot� carr�or t�lephon� building ex;istir�g af one f l�or, 17 fs��t by 17 fe€t, on leased l�nd oaa th� �►c�rthwQst corn�r of the Burlington Northern t��cks and walnut StrQet, We� �e�e�g@��d that �uch �txuctures placed Qn street �rontag� have sc�m�tim�s bEen g probl�m for th� �uture d�volopm�nt, of th� �rQP��y, w� �ugg�st�d, th��re�o�c, th�y plac� the str�cctu�re at th� southw��t carn�r of the site, �ath�r �han on Walrartt Str�eto 'They �greed to thi� ap�aro�ch, anrl will negotiatE wi�� lai�d own�r towarci thi.s ob3ectiv�. Th�y showed us the sch�matic fibe� optics lin� syst�m� n�t,i�ng the r�lay facili�y has to b� in thE n�ar vicinity of walnut Str��t �nd the t�racks (south of County Raad �?, The facility is an � important ingr�di�nt to the expansion of their ncw fiber aptics l�.ne syst�m� which serve portions of �oseville. Such public utilities are a permitted use in the I-2 district, Page 6 • and will not require Planning Commission and Council review. The location of this structure on leased land tno lot split required) at the southwest corner should eliminate the possibility of an aesthetic or functional conflict with any potential redevelopment of this site in the future. 12. Erlich -(416) 869-0751 - Tom Erlich and Al1en Brawn from Tanurb, and their local legal counsel, Tom Borman, were in to discuss some problems they are having with respect to starting of construction on their Loehmann's Plaza site, northwest of Rosedale. They not�d they are negotiating with Kraus�-Anderson, Gontractors, to pull the cost in line with the budget. The final building plans for the develogment �were submitted to the Ci�.y on April 30, though their revi�w is not yet complete by the Building D�partm�nt. Charlie Honchell noted th�y axe loo�Cinc� fox an erosion p�otectior� plan, and a�azing of th� grading pl�n. �aul Dahlb�rg, of KKE, joined th� m�eti.n9 �at�r anc! �greed to submit such plail�s. "Tha principa3 prnblem is one of obtaining a s�ti�factvey �as�ment f�om will3.ams F,ipol�ne� w�ho owr� th� contiguous ,and �o the north i� fee. The o�s�ment documa�nts to th�m by t��lli$m� 1+�avQs in ��r,fous qu�stion (in thair op�nion� Ch�ir � degre� of ii�bilaty in �he eve�n� of � pipeli�e spill8go. RAgQr J+e�asan �oin�d us ,in the�o di�cussicans. Roger p�.acod a calb to Cu�tis Proud �rom �illi�ms Pi��i�e in Okiahom�, and di��us�od the lea�� rrangem��t. I� s�paa�ed ti�at Wi.�.ii�ms i,� agr�eabl� �� lim�t�.n� rhQ inden�ni�ication to acts of nQg�„�g��,c�� which me� s�olve Tom Bo�fl�an's conccrns. 1��, 8�rna�n �nclic�ted �het � ar �ri��on�, tho �.fl541��t1CQ to code� th��r p��en�i�l �i�bi�it�� wo��tl �cost S9Q.Q00 ir► �aramiums �r year. wp �$�,��d �t�Q a�t�rnativQ �s r�Q s�a� off the wilifam� proper�y� �nt�rQl�, �� in �h�t c$sQ a 8ub�tanti�l rQtain�ng �rall �eQultl J�� n�c��s�r� �alonq po�tio,�� o� thQ north p��po��y line �� eho Tanu�b douc�lc��m�nt. �t� ci�QekQd th+� l�ndscapo p1�n as s�t�mi�tted� whi�h in�ludas this concept. �� pp�a�� thi� �ce�uld b� work�bla, cha�ugh th�a c�st of �o�seructing s�ch a w$11 in �c�opt�bl� materi�l m�y be con��derab�€�. Nopefull� th� ��se�menr� �re�blem c�n be workad ou+�, �nd thc� wall will not lb� t��ce�sa�y. WQ notec� �h�t a�af ��lstoi� wall wou],d be acc+cptab�e, though ��st1y►� but that r�w cancrot� or cc�ncre�e blo�k is a� �rabl�m. Tam Er11ch s�i,d gQod natureci�.y, "`It' 11 bn in brick". Tom al�a a�k�d us to ��,��e�r th� question of 4�rhether os not 7 fixtures would bQ ne�deci �n ��ch of the pub�ic washrooms prapQsed �.n t�i� shopping c�nt�r. Ha outlin�d th� numher �� washrooms to b� provid�d in �ach of thQ tQnants' spac�, �nd �he x�staurants. � Ther� is a qucstaon as te wh�ther 7 a�� ctual�.y ne�d�d, in�smuch as same of th� regional c�nt�xs around the Twin � Page 7 Citi�s doe not have that many. He also noted their bank,. Bank of Montreal, are be' careful a�out d,ocum�nting legal requirements from the��ery perspective. They eve�n Su ir �h� �it�I guarante�ing th�e rightetotarainewateretoement from drainage facilaties north of the center. Normal the City s easements are no� requirecl, no more than easements�aluch access to tt�e p�b�ic streets �re documented. laWing Given a solution to the wilii�m� Pipeline easeme it would app@ar that �robl�ms reviewcc( are solvan� Pro}alem, ere anxiou� to praceed with �radit�c� an� �oundationewo They soon as pQ��l�, rk as 13. B�own .. 560-4906 - Denni� �rown is an �n in forr�ally an �ne�in�erir�q assistar�t with the Ci� who was Ro��vilie. He bror�ght in Prelimina�t Y af P�rkir�g layc�u�s for Gordi,e Now� � Y 9r�din9 Flans and cornar Qf �i��w8� �6 �n� �iC� St��At�ject on ttre northwest changes �� the park�inq l�you� a� �� suggeated the Go�d�� How�. �}�is �nvolv��s a� r�ductionuogycon€li�sed with parkinq sp�Ce,� en� �� a��e8s �nd e�ress drive shats betw�en Country Kitch�n Ft�sr��urant �nd G�rd,�� owe's ��v� red by the � Thc�y wi11 �an,�ider r�vi�►�o�s and brin$ t�eno b�ck �°pment. r��i�w at a$u.bsec��nt date. fdr C3ty � N� I NI 2 gI 3 N� 4� 5 s I 6�� ?�I g� g'-_+ 10 � I i �' 12 �� 13 �� 14 � 15 � I 6 �I 17 p` I 8 � 19 a� 20 '� ' / JL� �' � I___�..i�r <,*F D� t �� I p '` I I � V / � �� `j-�`'�� . ' �i I 1 3120 A 3000 B �� C � ' 2760 / �D ; 2640 +• *• +�J _� � . J �920 � 1 I � � ■D. 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'� D 2640 G 2Yt0 H r�so I ZQw J ,� � i. K ieoo �L 16d0 Acorn Raad Aglen Ave. Aglen St. Aladdin St. Alameda St. Albemarle St. Albert St. Aldine St. Alta Vista Dr. Arona St. Arthur P1. Arthur St. Asbury St. Auerbach Ave. Autumn St. Avon St. Bayview Dr. Beacon St. Belair Cir. Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsarorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Chr�sty Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:I2 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-L:11 E-1�:11 L:19 L:12,1 : Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexington Av: Lindy Ave. J;3,4,1I,13 J:6 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:I9,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,H,L:19 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J : 2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 a:io K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,0:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-D:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:12 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,H,I:18 B:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:13 1;11-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,t:12 Little Bay Rd. A:17,18 Long Lake Rd. A-F:3 Loren Rd. J:5 Lovell Ave. G:13-16,18 Lydia Ave. A,6:1,6-14 Lydia Court A:1 Lydia Dr. A-6:14 Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 Manson St. 6:1 Maple Lane 6:1,7,8,20 Maple Lane Ct. B:i9 Marion Rd. N:3 Marion St. B-I,L:20 Matilda Circle F:19 t4atilda St. B-D,F,G:19 McCarron Blvd. N. J:18-20 McCarron Blvd. S. K,L:18-20 McCarrons St. B-D,H,K:11 Midland Grove Rd. H:4 Midland Nills Rd. J:3 Midlothian Rd. N-I:8 Mid Oaks Lane 8 Rd. J;8 Mildred Dr. A,B:6 Millwood Ave. B:7-8,10,13-15 Miilwood St. B:1,19 Milton St. A,H,:14 Minresota Ave. G:18-20 Nbundsview Ave. J:17 hbunt Ridge Rd. A-D:5 Nancy Place G,H:14 Northview St. g:2p Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Oakcrest Lane E:19 Old Highw�y 8 A-B:1-2 Orchard Lane C:14 Owasso Blvd. S A-C:16-20 Owasso Blvd. W A-6:15-16 Oxford St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Parker Ave. I:13-15 Partridge Rd. 6:3-4 Pascal St. A-F,H-J:10 Patton Rd. A-B:1 Pineview Ct. K:16 Primrose Curve D:10 Prior Ave. B-G,I-J:5 Prior Circle A:5 Rambler Court D:18 Rambler Rd. D:10 Raymond Ave. A-6:4 Rice St. A-L:20 Ridgewood La. N b S J:8 Ridgewood Rd. p;g Roma Ave. L:1�-13,16,19 Rose Place f:1,2,7-12,15,16,18 Rose Vista Ct. L:11 Rosedale Dr. J:3 Rose7awn Ave. J:2-14,17 Rosewood La. N& 5 J:3-4 Rugqles St. K:11-13 � Russell Ct. B:8 icyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hoak Dr. Sextant Ave. Shady Beach Sharondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St_ Shorewood Cv. & La. Shryer Ave. Simpsons St. Skillman Ave. Snelling Ave. Snelling Curve Sne7ling Serv.Dr. W Sne�ling Serv.Dr. t Southhill Or. S.T.H. 35W S.T_H. 36 S.T.H. 36 Serv. N S.T.H. 36 Serv. S S.T.H 280 St. Albans St. St. Croix St. Stephens St. Stanbridge Ave. Stanbridge St. State Farm Road Stuber Road .Swrmer St. Talisman Curve Tatum St. Terminal Road Terrace Dr. Tophill Circle Transit Ave. Troseth Rd. Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Wagener Place Wagner St. Walnut St. West Perimeter Dr. Western Ave. Westwood Circle Wewers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Ave. Wheeler St. Wilder St. William St. Willow Circle Willow Lane Woodbridge Circle 4toodbridge Court Woodbridge St. Uloodhill Drive Woodlynn Drive Woodruff Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:I1-15 A:7 J:S-7,10-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,5,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 G,H:2 H:2 6:7-8 A:l H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 B:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G=6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G,I:20 0:11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,19,2� K:18 � � f V' � � May 13, 1985 i TO: FROM: SUBJECT: � Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Planning Office Hours - May 1, 1985 1, Burger King - 933-7773 - Mike Nordstrom, local manager for Burger King, brought in the drawings and materials for his application to develop a new Burger King site at tAs you southwest corner of County Road C and Cleveland. wi11 recall, this is the site owned by Jim Trapp, now occupied by a qas station and two single family homes. Mike noted that the gas s t a t i o n h a s been there since the 1930's, and they have discovered through soil tests that there may have been some gas spillageofntheirSdevelopmentW11Theave to be taken care of as a part restaurant has 95 seats, with 5ermitklrez ningSfromhBy4Wto1 be applying for a special use p ► B-3, and parking variance to 5 feet on the nor�k� side (a driveway for the drive-through) and a building :�etback variance to 23 feet (from the required 30 on the north side). The variances are very necessary because of the power line that runs over the site, which restricts the building envelope. We discussed signage for which a variance will not be necessary. We noted that they are taking off the "Home of the Whopper" from thsignsonnthe�f ace which normally went under the "Burger King" of the hip roof. The building includes a"greenhouse" and patio on the east side. The site is totally planned with good landscaping, and will be using 30 feet of the railroad right-of-way, for which they have obtained an easement (a feat all by itsel�). This application will be ready for referral to the Council at its May 13 meeting. 2. Schultz - 441-1986 -° weldsnof�harcelssin the arearofdland Schultz, who owns a serie P being put together by Dave Weir west of Cleveland Avenue, north of Caunty Road �'2 aisgareat. Weeinformedthimlthatsa the general program for th developer was attempting to put t�e Phepemayet�etsuccessfulnd that if the numbers work out righ , Y We reiterated the City's policy �annoverallnimaginativeS of the land, but looking rather for redevelopment scheme, of which his mother's property a.s a part. We also talked about the property owned by otheThere family members on the east side �of�WhichahasAaewater hole is eiqht acres of land here, one in the center over which the City has a drainage easement (condemned by the City at substantial cost some years ago). Page 2 � Weldon noted he has a brother and two sisters, John Schultz, Linda Sina and Mary Richardson. Freida owns the northerly most property east of Cleveland Avenue. These properties are not proposed to be sold at this time. We noted in response to Weldon's question that the City is not normally desirous of condemning property, but may do so if one or two holdouts were attempting to prevent an otherwise workable development, as was the case in the Loehmann's Plaza project. It appears that Dave Weir has obtained abutpdoes on Freida's 11 1/2 acre site (west of Cleveland), not have purchase agreements on the remaining smaller parcels to th� north. There is approximately 16 1/2 acres total owned by Freida Schultz west of Cleveland Avenue. 3. Williams - 341-3800 - Mike McGuire, a local attorney (the phone number is his) was in with Curtis Proud, property manager for Williams Pipeline Company out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. Chuck Danschersten is the l.ocal manager with whom the City has worked a great deal in the past. F'rank Semple is th� division manager covering an area including Des MQines, Chicago, Minneapolis and Duluth. Glen Smith is the Roseville area supervisor. Mike and Curtis were in to discuss the possibility of • Williams applying for a PUD for their site, so as to take it out of a non-conforming class. They expressed some concerns reqardinq the procedure and its effects. They agreed, however, to give us these concerns in writing so that we could proceed to amend tne PUD section of the ordinance so that it would be possible for them to apply for a PUD. They are basically in favor of the process, but are c�ncerned that it will have deleterious effects on their future. They ar� thinkzng in terms of possibly selling some of their excess land, which are indicated on the attached sketch as areas 1 and 2. You will notice that area 1 is separated from the tank farm by New �iiqhway 8. This property is shown on the Comprehensive Plan as high density multiple family, and coLz�.d be sold and developed at any time without consequence to the tank farm. Area number 2 is more sensitive, inasmuch as it is contiguous to the tank farm, and a question of appropriate public access is involved, as access is r�ot allawed directly across the New� Highway 8 right-of-way. Our meef;:ing was very friendly, a.n the spirit of cooperation and doi�lg the right thing, looking out for the best interest of will:�ams, and that of the City. Curtis told us a good deal abc�ut the overall Williams organization, noting that there are 46 facilities similar to this owned by Williams � around the country. They have 115 pumping stations around Page 3 . the Country as well. The Roseville facility consists of four functions: pumping station, tank farm loadin and truck), and an office structure. He noted thatg40%aof all the petrol fuels used in the metropolitan area come to their facilities. All of the fuel supply far the airport comes through their pipes. At the airport, only a one day supply is stored, a condition that will be in the process of being corrected soon. This fuel is airport from a line coming across the MinnesotacRiver�from the south. He noted the industry is moving swiftly to unleaded fuel, to which they add octane enhancers, usually in the form of urea ammonian nitrate. of fuels through the pipeline system, andeocc sionallylaty rubber-like ball to separate the fuels. Where pipe sizes change, no such device is used, and there is some mixing of the fuels en route. This mixed fuel is tanks, and some of it is re-refined at theirefractionatorate plant at Alexandria, Minnesota. They are currentl dome-like roofs on some of the tanks, for which the Citying qave them a building permit. These structures are added to keep snow and ice out of the tanks, which at time had to be �hoveled out by hand. In the future, they intend to install a the R�seville site to enhance their vast � sy��tem. They also intend in the future commun.ication lines in some of their old their communication facilities. Some of to other users. satellite dish at communication to put fiber optic pipes to enhance this will be solel We also discussed the problems that Tom Borman has related to us regarding the consummation of an easement to allow Tanurb to do landfill, berming, and landscaping on the williams Brothers proper�y north of the Loehmann's Plaza development. Curtis Proud noted that their agreement requires that if, during the process of c�nstruction, a pipeline is penetrated, there will be liability. He notes this is typical of all easements on their pipelines are lo�ated, He noted as an exampleeanyeasement over similar properties in Newport, Minnesota. Tom 8orman, in a letter ta the City, has indicated their possible inability to agree on easement terms, which would require a revised solution to the agreed upon PUD plans approved by the City Cauncil. We will likely hear from the Tanurb people soon xegarding these difficulties. A revision tc� the approv�d plan on the part of Tanurb would likely involve the construction of fairly expensive r�t��ning taalls, which may not proviele the best aesthetic solution. 4. Concordia - 484-8429 - Ray Hauer, Academy, was in with �im Morris from1tr,epLawrencenSignla � Company, to discuss the�.r proposal to construct an 8 x foot sign fronting on Highway 36 to denote that the Academy Page 4 � was the winner of a s tate sports championship. The ordinance allows the building inspector to issue a 30-day temporary sign not to exceed 75 square feet in area. They indicated the desire to retain the sign (if constructed) for a period of "a year or two". They also have a 4 x 12 foot sign fronting on Dale Street with a similar message. We suggested an appropriate solution would be an application to the City Council for a temporary sign for a period of one year, after which the championship status may well change, and thus may be somewhat irr�levant. They agreed, therefore, to submit an application to the City Council by May 8 to be included on the agenda for the May 13 meeting of the Council. The Council has issued permits for such temporary signs in the past. The staff agreed that an application for a variance processed through the Planning Commission and the Council should not be necessary. Sv Deluxe Check - 483-7829 - Gary Waylon, archit�ct with Deluxe Cfieck, and Gary Kunzer, facilities manager for Delux� Check, were in to discuss possible revisions to the site plar� for their Roseville facility located r�orth of County Road B, west of Pasca�l. This structure, originally the headquarters for Deluxe Check, has a 30,000 square foot floor area, with an existinq parking accommodation of i12 cars. They � pr�sented a plan indicating how 84 additional parking spaces could be accommadated, making for a total of 196 spaces. We suggested some revi�ions ro the plan, whereby they could add additional spaces without requests €or variances, .including the ret�ntion of th� easterlymost islanci of landscaping at what was the princi�al entrance to the structure toward the north�asterly portion of the site. They are going to r�vise their site plans to he submitted to th� City for a parking accommodation perm�t. If done in accordance with the sugg�stions provided, no variance or action on the part of the Planning Commission or Gouncil will be r�quired. 6. Stark - 927-4226 - Randy Stark and Michelle Johnson were i.n to discuss a �prop�sal on the part of Randy S�tark Deveiopm�nt Company to build multi-E�rnily housing unit� on a 4.63 acre tract indicated on the Camprehensive Plan for medium-density hausing north of Larpenteur, and westerly of the houses on the west side of �alti�r Street. We noted that the property is indicated on the Comprehensive Plan to include a 2.9 acre tract to th� east. If the tracts were developed together, this would produce an area of 7.03 acre�. Th�y mentioned the possibility of a 462C housinq as�istance plara, a program which has not been utilized in Roseville to date. They are interest�d in d�veloping a small scale ap�rtment development. W� noted that the Gomprehensive Plan • designat�d this property for medium density housing, which is normally construed to be some form of town houses. �he� may pursue obtaining an option f or the remaining land (the easterlymo�t parcel), and the possibility of submit�ting a preliminary design concept to the staf:E in the near future. • • Page 5 7, Pretzier - 770-9133 - Mike Pretzier is a vice president and legal counsel to the Health Resources Assistance ` Corporation, which is an offshoot of St. John's Hospital, who are developing the medical office facilities west of Snelling Avenue, north of Marie Slawik's Midway Ford. They have discovered that the nld Glendenning Motor Freight site, now owned by the Space Center (owners of the Sperry Corporation's buildings i�oWtheeold Glendenninq property0 foot easement for access from the Snelling Avenue service road. This easement goes throuqh the Health Resources Assistance Corporation's property. This easement does not show up on the Ramsey County section map, so the City �aas unaware of its existence. We noted that the most appropriate solution would be that of a 60 foot wide rigi�t-of-way public street from Snelling Avenue eo the northerly portion of the Space Center property. This will obviously allow for rnore intense development of the Space Cent�r land (which they contemplat�e ), and would materiall�► assi�t it� the mor¢: intensive and useful deveiopment of the proper�s�awikhethe City's interest. Mr. P�ltzicr not�d that Mrs. Space Center people and th�y, are int�r�st�d in pursuing � cooperative solution. W� sugg�sted that a ty�ical solution to this kxnd af three par�Y ail�mme is ane where �he �'itY' acquir�:s the ric�ht-of-waY, builds a street �t �t�� requ�st af the property owr�ers� dnd assesses the cost to thc b�n�fitive: properties. hir. P�ltzi�er indicated his interest in pursuing � this approach. 8. Skalick -�74-0145 - Jim Skal�eky was in �o discu�� a progxam to add an � x�6 foot "�Pa �alariu�" on the wQs�crly sid� of a r�sidence at 3178 ��e�t O�wa�sso 8oul�vard• Thouc�h this addition to the xesidence is aw�y from the 1a}�� icic► 8 auilding permit fox chis �ddition would ha�e to be proG�s��d undEr che 5horeland Zan�.ng orriinance. �his sit� �lso h�� a� garag� uP �ear Owasso Boul�var�i, «hich is non-conforming. W� suggesteri, ther�fore, that he �arepare an ap�rc�Pr��A��het� plan and d�tails of th� additi.on, and that he applY Council for � Shorcland development approv�].• �e suggest that this application i� pon¢the�ak��ctipes�of�thedShoreland have a deleteriQus effect Zoninc� Ordinance. g, F'�arinc� - 636-0641 - Richard F'earing ��wns a transmission repair shop at a former gas station sgt� at ��e southwesG co�ner of Fairview and eounty Road D. This gr.r�perty has 1�0 feet o� depth off Coun�y Road D, and 122 f�et of ei�pth off �`�i�vi�w. H� is con�idering �h� possibilitY of sn addition re the building. This is, of cou�sc, a very small si�e, to �rkl],Ch an additional ten fEet of dedication tor Fairvi�w Avet�u� would be requir�d it �he building is to bc: �xpand�d. s,�e suqg�st�d that h� hire an architect to plan the r�visions to the site, to ��plore al.t�rnativ� methods �o� adding Lo the � and providing for the r�quired parking. It building, appeared by scaling the prelimi.nary drawing prepared, that the buildinq is approximately 35 feet by 50 feet. He indicated his intent to s�ek advice, and to return to the staff with a pnssible salution. 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Belmont Lane Bismarck Ave. Bossard Dr. Brenner Ave. Brenner Court Brenner St. Brooks Ave. Brooks Circle Bruce St. Burke Ave. Capitol View Capitol View Cir. Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chatsaiorth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Da1e Court Da1e St. Dellwood Ave. Del7wood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne- St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 H:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-20 D:1-2U B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,2Q A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-� :11 E-N:11 L:19 - L:1� Draper �ve. �raper Orive Ounlap St� El�ridge Ave. Elmer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fai rvieq+ Ave. Fain+ays Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrinqton Ci�rcle Fernnrood Ave. Ferr�rood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulha� St. Galtier Circte Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesrr�n St. Glenhill Road Gl enr�ood Ave e Gluek Lane Gluek Lane k b 5 Gr�ndvier+ Ave. Griggs St. Grntto St. Haddington Road Namline Ave. Nand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel Ste Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Nythe 5t. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview pve. larpenteu� Ave. laurie Road Lexiagton � Lindy Ave J:3,4.11,13 J:6 E.F�,C:l2 I:5,7,8.10-12,I6.18 J:19,20 E,H:3 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 i:19 R:19 B-O,HI�L: i9 F:19 I-a:ll G-E,H:iI E:15 E-f, I :8 G-J.2 F:�O 8-O,�,1:19 �:11.�2 I-J:19 A:IO K:17,I� �:6 �:6 G:I�-16.18-20 C,0:12 E-N:15 H:8 A-L:10 G.t:19 A-Oa95-17 C-16 E.H:7 J:7 A,S.G,H:I iS-1 i F:10 K:11 C-D:li J:� C:18 C:S�C*D:1�-2� L:11 C:18 f:18 E,F,N.t.l8 6:11,�2 C:1�-13,18 1:12 B.O,J.l.:l7 J:2 C.0:13 1;11-2� N:3,8.12 A-L:l� I,t:l LiLcle R�� Rt�. �� A� i-s � • lor�rn �+�. lov�tl Arr�. l�rd 1 � Wavt � ��d#� C�ur� L�d3� t1ir. 11°�c1��,i�n St. ��nsan ;c. �ap1� Can� �i�p1� l�ra� Ct. At,�rf�t,� �. �rfi�sn SS. �"�tf ic�x Ci+�le �it3ldl� St. �[C��^r� ��vd. B�. �tt��`rr3� ��o�d. �. N��rrpeeS �$�. �It�1�r� &�r°��ee 1��. 1�i�1�� iil�s �J� l�ia�i��Jhi��n IRBo 6�i�! 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Tro��tlh Rd. �Pict;�ri� 5t. �'ir��ini� A�►e. �irr�inia Circie 'iGiqc�er Pl�ce 9�gner St. i�lncnt St. 3G�5t Peris�eter Dr. yoes�e�rn l�ve. 6�s�+�� Circi� i�eo�ezrs Road M�e�t.An Ave. 1�het:1 e r Ave . I�riec.�1 er St. Ililc3er St. '�illlia� St. F�ill�a►� Circle Mi 111 pw Larre iiboclbr3 csge Ci rtl e Yoodbrid�ge Sturt �a►o�hi 11 Dri ve abocJlyten a'riv� I��ruEY Arre, J:5-7,9-13,27 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:�,10,12,15,16,18 K;20 I:5 B,D,F:10 N:21-15 A:7 J:5-7,1d-14,16,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:3 J:5,5,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 6-0:8 R-D:9 6:I8 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 G-ii: i-20 6-2-4 N:3-4,7,8,17 M-J_ 1 C*F,G,L.16 6,N:2 H:2 �:7-8 A.D H:9 K:lf K:12 D:10 J:6 F:l-3 C:7,1Q,I1,18;C-D:15-16 G:28 F:9-14,16-20 8:1-2 A-L:14 G-U:19 F:19 k;20 x:17-19 E-H:1 6:6 6-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F;7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 E:11 E:11 6:20 L:20 A-6,I:20 D.11-14,17-18 A:9-10,13,14,I9,�_ K:18 -- �_� �J � � 0 _ � April 29, 1985 T0: Jim Andre FROM: SUBJECT: Howard Dahlgren ��lJ V I , r Planning OEfice Hours - April 24, 1985 1. Weir - 541-1000 - David weir is President of WoodbYidge Properties, Inc., a well-knawn and successful business pat�s developer, officing out of w�yzata. Jim Geary, real estate agent from Coldw�ll �ank�er, and David were in to discuss their proqress in puttingf together all the properties on �h� east sid� of 35w, from the City's holding pond on the south to County Road D on th� north. The �outh�rlymost portion ( south of Coun�y Raad C-2 ) is owned and flGcupi.ed by G�rre�t �r�ight Lin�g. To th� nortM tberweer� �-2 and D) �her€ are 25 landown�rs, one of whom is Fr�id$ Schultz. Fr�id� owns a total of 16 1/2 acres, of +�hick� �ppgox�mat�ly 11 acr�s cons�itut�s the south�rl�m4��t parc��. Ther� �� a�otal a� 52.� acre� noz�th af C-2. Jim Loary h$s i�e�n suc�essful in okatairring Qptior�s on 12 of ti�c� s�nQ�e-fami;y tra�cts. �f thc� �otal, tt�r�o have �ndica�ted an unwil�ingness �Q ��11. 'with one a� thQse thr��e thera is a p�roblem c�� iradlinq thr� qu�ardf��n, er�d �nother of tha thrQa di�d nat w�n� tn tak� time to di�cus� it at �his �ime. Dav,�d �� ry candi� ar�,th tha sta��. and rQla��dl prices b��n� �ffer�d. �sro��c�� nvc�ra�l land co�ts, rlaverlapment cos�s � p�t�fltiml bui �cis�ng v�luc�s, �uture t�xes. ��d e�+�i�ated tax �ncr�m�nts� Ht� rec�uQ�tQd the�sa �um.ibc�xs ;bQ �ep� co��de�tial, �ics �t��Qd th�t �not�� dQ�►elope� rias ,�n Q��i�n on �hcr F�s�ida� �c�t�i�z �ro�r+cy, �r+� �h�t h�a is ��l�inq to �h,i� dla��lQ�er a�aith tha ��sibili�� o� a�qui�ir�g t#�at o�t�or�, Dav,�d i�� l�o n��atiati�� wi+th G�rr+�t�, b�t c�oc�� n�� h�u� �r► op�ion �t �h�.� ��.mQ. t�a �tc� ��so a�wa�c� �h�t ewa e��hors ar� dl�a��i�q w��h GsrrQtt an� �h� �chw�.�� pQopl�. �h� land nortN c� C-2 i$ ,sha�rn �n +�hQ C�m�rah�ns��Q Fl�n a�s �in�l�-€art��.i� �nd medium c�an�i�� e��de�ti�l. �►e in��cnt�d tiav� �►air that ra�hr�r ��an ��m�� ta r��ana � Por+��or� of thi� ].and tsuch as tho sa��hQrl� 11 acr� piacQl, th�� he City" � int�r��t wo�uld be b�e�a� �arved if thQ to�al q��c�b�em werc� s�lu€�d i�g� t�tal �cqu�i��c�r� ancl redQv�lo�m�nt of th� €�r�tixe p�rc��. �f a c3e��lop�c�� cau].�i ptat� tP►�c ��nd tca�e�h�r, a T�x Incr�m�n�, �i��ict may �ie po�si�le, an� with �n ima�inati�rQ plan, thQ intc�re�t af thQ �inql�-�fa�mily cswnQr� s�astaLl� af the nc��thQrn po�tiora oi tt�� ro�arty cauld bo b��t�r psote��c�. I� w�u�.� ��e�� es� �in�l�-��.�riiy owners woul,d b� �h� prapert,�o� mQs� �f�'�ct�d, and carn mu�t b� tak�n �o �arotect �h�ir inC�i�s�. D�v� concur��d in �hat obj�ctiv� and conc�rn. � 2. � � Page 2 Planner (formerly - 936-4585 - Bob Webster is a City ears Webster of gichfield) who has worked for many Yand was Wi�h the CitY horst Corporation ln�W ke°ardinq their �ith the Rau�n tz rop�rtY �nd th@ �arrett site• 3n witt� Mike Arnesoulandp im Murname of f ice and interesti in tihe Sch most of whicr1 uenhor�� has done a n�be�tropola�anrarea, ��v�� x�s in th� m though he has business comp ��t 2� years, h� has design�� in �h� P�h�y ��c now intorest�� n done onc in Rosevill�. a�� hE b�id9Q be cand�dates £oz �h� �ax Tncr�ment ax� Rosevilie, and maY . th�� was w�st of 35�► aft�er a decis�o�Ch�sComtcntdev�lopm�nt� con�truction. O�sus did �or Camten, and nat a ��+turnk�y" Pra�� direcely v�la ment on th� part �� evil�lcr�t. '� 8t• �peculative do ri �u�� tcs Ro �ow�we�, was thei� f ��$t �x1P� or��ed �n �i�o Rosav��.� ��st�in +�h� T��c� �hc� axc int $�i��a �Q�gou� ,�ntor �.ndica��d chQi� � ��u� cl�o �ie��s�An �� e�in�$hthay�p�� i+� Inc��'�'� ��s��ice want � � co��r�et�on• �n �hQ ��en��mQ. thQy �nt. �'t�a� �ra �� Q G�►rrQ�+� ��.�� antl tht� �o i�►�a� �� t�►e� ma�➢ca�`" �r+ Ro�e+��hs� �a��h � cl�vQ � �� U�s�u�ta4 �,+n eh� p��a� of � s� t�o fc�aa�i�i��y A� wc�ul� �,��e��, ��dl �r�re i�qu��in� ,� �,� ��, a�� i��a��a�c� ��Q�►��r+�h�� 'oun�Y �ha �chul�.. i� � ��t� �o thc� �o�u �ts�oni�� c�� t �Ct3�l2� � ��g ��A �,��d�C�l��l� 1C �Y ��C� ��+ �,'��3�1C ��i��1 �� '� �Q ChC! ��t� �#��If!• A+�t4 �r��or� o� �h� ��r�d� wo+�� o�r �h� � �oc��n� II-�� r�ae��c� �h�t ch�� czx��_��" t�u��11r�� cl�� A�air�� t�i'�� rLiG�'1� � � a� � �� f1 ��Alnt� b�' t1C O� ��o�Q��c �' �k��c t� � �h� c�c��t�ar! ��c��ra� r�c�u�� as� �c��h��+� �� 3�� dl prc�� u�i�n �d�a�� c��e� �+��h �w� �� r►� ��,�� a�� a�� "�� aaa�� a��r��a�� Rc�� -� d�raQlop�t � e�o��n� _ �-�� !�� C�u��' � ir�eeelr�a t�� c�+�io� ca! t4�� A �� t�Qcc�� rtaa� �� t�� ! ��+ ��v��.ar�tl �a ��o R��a�o�d��nue� �o ��Q u�� 4 �1�t�� lan� co �r�re�� cc�� n� ��=��m�.l� dc��ac��c��p�� i��t ��e� c��u� 6��r�nd �r��nu� �al-d�=��c. �.�� i�� hc� �Q�� advi�� b �eb��er �c�re�d �@�� i� h� �, �l�c, ib�� h�t m� rh�req, �� m�dea �.+� ��a� tha� w� �� n� would �� hr �� RQ8 c��ca�sra��n� �ha�► ff ro�n dd��in� r�ith �c��ct '�� '� ha �ud�eaalc�p�en� ca� +�h� �bes��n��c��t��# � �c•lu�c��on �.� in th� Cit� s � �omprt�he�ns�vo : „�.,,; �� a�ou� thQ - �a� i�c�� wa►� �n �a �.a».�M_� _ �t �hc� �, F� �- ��1-��9� � m�c�.ica�l offica buildt�ri�c h�d Fassiiai�i�Y o� �°VQl�pi�� oad C �nd Gaxin�t�n. ��orthea�t �oxncr of �ca�r�e� of p�r�iQ�, no��ng natod �s high-doersi.ty r�esiden�i�l � and d�,�cu�scd �his e�arli�r w3th � var o�Y i�s imm�distc th�t one ef�a��pda� 9 th�► t rincip�l Yeason €or tlnis w�� Page 3 availability to Central Park. We suggested, however, as we have to others, that if a development was proposed to include high-density multi-family for the entire tract, or for a major portion thereof, that it wcauld be Fo5sibl� to integrate such a medical complex as par�t of the overall devclopm�nt plan. With thi� scenario, the medical faciliti�s could be at the southwest corner, and portions to �Count Ro�d G coul.d be dev�laped for a t�igh- the east on Y d�nsity rEsidential compl.ex. Hab indi�at�d h� fe�ls h� h�s a number of per�ons who m,�ght be int�er�st�d in purst�ine� that ob� ect i ve ,�,nc� wi 11 proc�eel a 14ng +thosc 1 i�es . d. So��n - 370-9529 - Je�n S�gira is � farm�r ��+pioy�� of t�9ldwest Pl�nning and Research tthcn 3�an �erman), an�! has mast recontly be�n employad �� h� �cco�nrin� Ei�m c�f �'eopers and Lybrand. Sh� ha� �ne�w de�id�a �� ge+� in�eo �h� dlevelc�pmerat f iQld �ar�r� p�coposos. ari�h a��en�r, c�c�v�lop a s�n��r �iti�en' � hG113��1+$ �CO jCC� 8►� +�ri��e �e��s�hea�t cornc�r nf Ros��awn �nd LQxinq�on.far�re�orrinq�td�ni�dD�for �hcr �r�� lan� �acene l�t ��`�o1Pos�d Kna�rla�n"� S+apc�rma►r1c�t �ople. '�ho p�r�e�► i� �.� a�xc��d�s �� ,�� tatiQn, �rould h� G-shaped �riti� ��c�r�e�gcz o�n L�x�ng�on �nd Eta�o�la�n� t3��u�h �ha� a�gr�c�s t�a� ��v€ala�+�nt �� a� sta� i�ra a� � p��t +�f ch� �� ee� ��u�s! al�v�aus�y bca �t�Q�. �h� �� th��ri��nt� �� t��m� c�f � na��t�-��co�y �eru�+�u�� th�t eo�lc� #.�c��dc l��ndre�m�t �c��vica� �n� r��t�ur�nt ��c�li�� re �on�u��t�o� a�Jt� �cra►��c�s aff��Qd �� he� �en�o� ci�i�en �cc�ap�nt�. wQ d,��d ��o��d�a�ers �nd �c��ul�+��cn�. an� �ck�a�lctd�ar� a� car��dc��b�+� m��ko� �� ,��ap��p�� e�Q ��o�� c��t��ctr� h��n� #.to ��c G�t�v Ste��re �lo��h ��Y1 p�� c� h�r �dd�t�en �� t��e� hc� 1�� •a��ina t�ri� �s�kc�t, ��d ��Q� inE��m�t�on �a��l to l�c�r cc�n�fdl��+t�.on�, �. �ord��o� - 93�-7fi7� - !•9ik� �o�dl�trenro �� he ��re�nt �n��a�qe�z c�r 6�u�g�� r�� n ��e 8r��, rt1��Cir�� b �F��+ �►hc� i�6�t��W b��lding a n�� h��dqu��a�� ' 8uxg�r kin� �.n �+�i�ami. �e�u�,ea�ed �he ��po�ed �it� �l�ra, n�tinc� �h�t �h� �t�a�c��s �a�u,��i �ncl+�dc� � .�p�cf�� u�Q p��mit � f��t fo� �ar�i�� , �nc8 � e��r�cc� f�r � dri�r��►a�P wt�ich ��i �Q five fc��t fram t�►� �Quch 1,�� c�� cl�Q z igh�-��-��y a� ��unt�y Rs�d C, a��i ��evQr� �e�o+� �ar,i�►nce �a t�hQ bui�dinq i�c��ion, �ing 2� f��t ��thc�� th�r� �he r�qui�ed �4. The�Q +��ri�nc�� arc� rea�sc�n�blc 1�c�u�� tt�� mP�� power lino �hich� �ac�� av�� the �auet��l� pa�t�on oE tha �it�, s�ucrel� re�tricting �h� ��n� af �uilding �nd f es locatic�n Qn Chi� grop�rty. ��o �e�l t�is devcio�mQnt �rill considerably ar��CanGQ this a��a ..ap�r �,�,�t3�� c�rvice st�tion. �nd tw� no�y o��i1�3.13� b�' � ��. �..,. � old�r small �inglc�-�amily homes. The land i� now zen�d 8�4, anc� � re�onin� �o B-3� would be n�cess�rY far �his siz�� of rostaurant facility. fi� 8��11� 349-gg02 - Tanya 8e1.1 is a r��ltor fram Coldwall Bank�r andr�looking �ith Cam Blodg�tt for an office . • � Page 4 building site in Rosevolle. Sheln�the RosevillentArdeneys • indicated a current 10o vacancy Hills and Shoreview area. She notes thetlOhlfigurenwaslevel is much lower in Roseville, and that th recently raised to that number due he notesfthat thecvacancy had gone on line in Arden Hills. S rate was 5% in this district lasRosevilleWewithlemphasis on potential office space sites in the Tax Incremen� District west oft3of�the�Trailmobilelsite, we noted the possible redevelopmen just north of the Mother Tuckero evilleanand willllookings her clients are serious about R carefully for potential development. 7 , Paulson - 426-8801 - Richard Paulsonthensouthlside ofmily lot with 152.69 feet of fronof9thenpond, west of the Transit, just north�esterly c ommercial site fronting on Rice Street• had thegrightetoand in 1977, and is aware that he would ave b uild a duplex on the property at that �hat bimeuSa seriesnd �ontiguous to it was zoned B-3. Since o£ duplexes were constructed to noelonger app1iesthiHe is automatic transitional zoning interested', however, in building a duplex on the site. Development is complicated to a,Sear50�faatsseweraeasement recently discovered that there 1 We noted that this leaves � on the east side of the property. a 92.�9 foot width for development, W�khon the�westSsideck on t�e east side, and a 10 foot setba This leaves adequate space for a gC°� ddPdenot�recordltheon the sit�. He informs us thj� privat�Yinsurance company did easement, and that is whY this, but not pick up on its existen��o d@velop the lan�f�or a duplex, suggested that if h� wants he should apply for rezoning. He requested t��t the City do the rezoning for him due to the circ�mstances. We suggested that the land cauld be considered far rezoning only if he prepares a development proposal ��dt rhereforealt�atdh�Smake part of the deci�ion. W� sugge� � the application in the normal fashion��aneighbors� mlthWould well to discuss this with the �rtunedia a ear that the circumstance� �re suatheralarqeulotx which PP b� a� appropria►te solution to th�.s r would be difficult to spli�. into50Wfootneasement�� $�'tes bec�use of the existence of the 8 , Ban�t - 646-7901 - Lee Banet was in�nttCompanyCinquiring Gary Sparr from the l�aster Developm about feasibility of devel.oping a��ecentlytatfkeyeshop ate o1d gas sta�ion site which is mos the southeast corner of Dionne St�heteasthsidelof Lexir�gtot � of the Paster Shoppirtg Center on �north of Larpenteur. This shop would offer retail sales and . • � Page 5 i services for camera and photographic supplies, and a one- hour drop off service for film development. We noted that this use is permitted under the existing zoning, and that the building could be added to on the southeast side (perhaps 2- 3 feet) if handled in a way so as not to infringe upon the existing setback to the east property line. 9. Dunwell - 483-6701 - Tom Dunwell, architect with Buetow and Associates, was in with Mod Feddler and Mike Bilski, Operations Officer for the North Star Bank at the southeast corner of Lexington and Ruggles. You will recall that Tom was in several weeks ago with preliminary plans for extending the bank and the parking. They have since decided to move the bookkeeping and data processing people to another location, resulting in a current plan to remodel and expand the entrance only. They intend to remodel the exterior of the buildinq, particularly the northwest corner, wher,e they propose to level the ground between the building and t;hat corner, creating more exposed wall for the basement lev�l, where more windows will be added. This will create a flat area, which will be ornamented with perhaps a fountain. They intend to remodel the parkinq slightl� by moving the driveway further to the south, with a median strip between the driveways, and adding a lef t turn lane. The traffic � problem there relates to cars lblocking the exit while attempting to make a left turn south on Lexin�ton. with a median strip, this will not violatie our driveway access width regulations. Based on our discussion, they wi11 revise their plans and add further detail for subsequent staff review. 10. Dunwell 483-6701 - Tom Dunwell also spoke to us about another project r�lating to the expansion of parkinc� for the Golden Age Nursing Home. The nursing hom� has been built in three stages, with the first building (fronting on Caunty Road e) done in 1950, the second building (northerlymost) built in 1960, and the center area in 1970. The existing parking lot has 42 car spaces, and the plan Tom present�d has 60 car spaces. We sugqeste� some changes to the parking layout, moving the acces� drive Eurther from the public str�et on the east. This parking lot proposed is parti,ally on land own�d by the Blumberg int�rest to the north. The Blumberg's basically agr�e to this change, but it would require a variance to the parking setback because o£ the overlap on the property line. Tam is going ta consider th� adjustments, and will be back for further review. This plan also anticipates the construction of a new entrance on the south �r�d (�.owa�d �he parking ar�a) �nd does include the conversion of parti of th� building to a Aaycare Center. The Gnlden Age people have abandoned the idea of building a new � Daycare Center in the single-family residence across the st�eet to the east beca�use of excess costs. We will want to � Page 6 • 's one carefully to make sure we don't wind up with watch thi a new parking problem. 11. Schreier - 484-4966 - Dick Schreier was in with Dick Sagstetter and Ken Tschida regarding proposed development of the 3.5 acre site at th� southeast corner of Victoria and Highway 36. We discussed the Comprehensive Plan's indication of inedium-density housing on the site, and the site conditions, it being an old gravel pit that has been gradually filled in. Apparently, the better soil is on the east end of the site, but unfortunately that is nearest the single-family houses to the east as well. We talked about PUD requirements and regulations. We noted also that the north end of the single family lots to the south are also included in the medium-density designation. They are going to consider further ways in which the property can be developed. 12. Pink - 631-1711 - Bill Pink, architect, was in to discuss the potential development of the Schultz property, upon which his client, Leonard Vannesse has an option. We noted again, thc City's desire to solve more of the problem north of County Road C-2 (between 35W and Cleveland) than simply the rezoning and development of the Schultz property only. � This situa�ion may result in Vannesse wozking with Dave Weir. Jim L�ary, Coldwell Banker, was with Bill Pink in this confsrencc anci is working with Dave on the remaining properties to th� north. �'his meeting, then� was to clarify the City's positiox� regarding its objectiue to achieve ov�rall development of the area, similar to the concepts used at the Loehmann's Plaza site. 13. iHa�sen - 488-0409 - R,�y Hansen has a single-family residence at 203�. Irene gtreet, and propos�s a minor variance for the �xtension of the drive��ray around his house to a new three- car garage to be built in the rear yard. This will allow him to convert the exist:ing single-fami].y garage to family space. He has twelve and one half feet from the existing garag� �a his e�sterly sid� property line. we sugg�sted retaining at leas� a foot and a ha�.f of setback� leaving the driveway eYeven feet wid�. This driveway would have a turn�round in the back yard, and thus would be reasonable in width for practical use. This would require a minor �ariance from the normal five foot �etb�ck for driveway locations contiguous to a side lot line. 14. Howe - 484-3244 - Gordie Howe was back with a revised p�.an far the �ievelopment of a previously approved and zoned office sit� at the northwest corner of Highway 36 and Ric� Street. He has, as indicat�d in our earliez report, � v@rY � attractive 2-�tory offi�e building designed by KKE. We confirmed some �reviously sugqested adjustments to the parking� whi�h will appear to work well on the site. The Page 7 • land being properly zoned, the development will require site plan review and building permit. 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Fairvie►+ A�ve. Fairxays La�e �arrington Ave. Far�ington CT. Farrington St. Farrin��on Cirtle Ferm.t�... Ave. Ferrn.U��' �t. Fi 53: S�. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesmar, St. Glenhill Road Glenrrood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane W a S GrandvieN Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Naddington Rc,ad Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Or. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Nilltop Ave. Holton St. Nuron Ave. Nurnn St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. lake St. lakevietir Ave. Lacpenteurt Ave. Laurie Road L�x�n Ave. Lin e. 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Yictoria St. Yirginia Ave. �irginia Circle iragen�r Pl ace �i�gn�r S t. 4falr.ut 5t. �dest Perir,uteter Dr. Kestern Aye. �iestwo�d Circle i�errPrs Road W�aton Anre. lrt�eier Rve. �the�ler St. ililder St. 1lilliam St. Willov Circle llillvr, lane {aoodbridge Circle yoadbri�ge Court i�oodbridge St. 08sodhi 1 � Ori ve �lz,�dlynn Qrive �oodrufff Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 H:10-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9�,l0,lZ,lS,lb,18 K:20 I:S B,Q,F:10 N:11-15 A:7 �:s—�,io—ia,i6,i� A,B:9-10;F,J:9 .�;5,6,1Q-12,16,20;I:7 {�-J :9 E-F:9 S-D : 8 E�-D: 9 6:18 A-8:4; �-H:1-4 6-H:2-20 c—z—a H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,�,L:16 G,H:2 N:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:1Q J:E F:1-3 C:7,�0,11,18;C-D:25-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 6:1-Z A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-I9 E-N:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 F:ZO D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,3:7 A,I:S I,J:19 E:11 E:Y1 6:20 L:20 R-G,I:20 D:11-I4,17-18 A:J-Id,13�9,20 K:18 � � April 22, 1985 � T0: FROM: SUBJECT: � � 1. �. Jim Andre Howard Dahlqren Plani�ing Office Hours - April 10 & 17, 1985 Novak - 483-5085 - Mark Novak is�be��ild�$id�ncepatp2557 to put an addition on the Dewayn� H Y W�e�ler �636-7932). The Hu�2r�e�C by�24�f��+tchand�rhe� residing in a homo th�t is prapose to �aut an ac�d�. tion on �h�ancQ�� Qat l andnclosQtth@ h�uso, �hich wouZd add a n�w Qntr �toraga) , and c�xpan�d '�h�i� �a��`ta �x�Qnd thQ�building�7 way this can I�e d4�e �e�sonably i$ �h,�s is �► 1 i/2 ��ory �e�t, ��c �nchc�s i�to t�hcs f �ont yard. huusa, and �.he a�ddi�i�� wi�� 1ao covcro �dy �ovc��c��u�tQ�entad towa�tl tha front c� thc� lot� w�ich sh P at�r�cta��►e. we Q�plaiin�� chQ procedu�as �nd �oquiremQ�ts far a m�nor va��ncQ, whi�h �p�ar� co b� e� app�oprieta so1u��Q�► �o the p�Ab1Qm►. Bc�rdaQn - 483��431 s �?i��k ��d�rc�a��nd�musPc��n�s�wn �hi�d pur�h��irog � e ol hta��.�r ��c ��t�r�cl �s �lhap��n� �:en+tc�� . �hi� ��s�d�r�cQ �n�! musc�n �s on � erc�r� sr�� lo+� w��kh �� o� °�60Q��qu�re �oo�bu�ldia�� o� occupi�d b� �► �c�� o��e .�n+d a � a �a�o ��c�c��, Dick wa� ��ki�;,� i� hca �� a�� h� �u�c�un� �a� a w��ckt�rase. T�e l�n� i� �ca��d �-1, ��d �hQ�c�o�c� � wa��hou�� usc� i� noc ��ie�Qd. "�hQ l��c�a��h�d��din�tsancl +�hQ Ss�ci�e� � wh��h wa� tha �s�e ��i in��aumcn��, �"h�� o�$c u�,�nc+��in da�nto�n St� ��u�. ir�stru�aQ�na� i� ��e t��ndm��k Pr�ncipl� ��e�� +�ha� ��o�s��'��h �hc ��kir�s��h�t� wt�Q�� hQ� h�vQ �� ct��mc�ta� �h�c� � �crues the mul��-��mily �Qs��o��t�Qh�as�th�a� parkfn� �uilc b�r Mr. Kv�1Q� ). Th� p@ spa�es rQ�c�rv�d �o� t�e�� uso �the�$�u�l��b��rhe��ice lot, Th� other a�ce�g i�� rom Wt3 lane that scr�ricos ehe ��r of t�hc� �hopp�fl'� �Qn!�r�r. i��s�ructeci hi� to �heck wh�v�c� lane�r�This�is��no� a oa�sc�men� right� on tt�i� s�r pu��c ��,1Qy. Ok�e��,ously, th� problam ht�re xs anQ of �� r��on�b3�e use o� +�h� 3, 600�c��on�the�r��idan'�i��.narQa grQ Concern�d about t�o imt� �.o �ha r�ort� if th� �uildinh��San�approPrm�te��v�.ut�.�� commercial uso. Wc not�d � would be for th� �avirtc��h�dhQus� could�b��tornhdoWn� prop�rty� ira which ca�o ms�re adequate parking provic3�d► ar►d th� building cou�ld be us�d for o£fic@s. It aPP�g�s �h@ �ui��'�s arad land could be purchased for agp�oxinna�elY $8'S � 000. Page 2 + 3. Young - 227-7667 - Howard Young is an architect with Young Haskens Associates of St. Paul, who is looking for an office site in Roseville f or a structure from 20,000 to 40,000 square feet. We reviewed the Comprehensive Plan, suggesting �ppropriately located sites, and we discussed in some detail the potential in the Tax Increment District. We particularly empha�ized the sites east of Hoffman Electric, which would he on an appropriate scale for that size structure. 9. Graske - 48'�-2867 - Hrad Grask� lives at 700 West Eldridg�, and is proposing tc� build a swimming pool that is 16 Ee�t by 32 f�et in his back yard. Ne and his wife t�ach scub8 divinq, and ar� i�quiring whether such ectivity� would b� ��rnnieted fcr 2-6 s�uderot� $t a time, usually from 6=9.30 p.m., c�no or two nights per ��Qk. we in�orr��d him that �hQ ordinanco �le.�rly speeific�s thet such "pu�lic usQ" of a swintm�r�g poo� i� ,�istQd as e spc��i�� uss� in thc� R-1 distri�t. t�� uqqes�od he �Qview i� with his n�iqh.b�otsA a€ter which hQ r�ay consider �pplyin� �or � s�cial vse �er�m��. HQ �o�cs �ha� h�s dr�veway wil,� ��c�rt�ad�� `au� s��s, ae�d s�$gQst�d ch�c �a�J��nq� w#,11 no�t ba� a prob��m� �xad cQ�l� us t�,�t he �$ in�oldQr� a� �n ��tructor �rr ua�tlurw�eQ�c a��din� �� St. Pau� �"'VI, �nd r��s c�at s�ch ��$�ru��oro i� av�,i1�B�� a� �n,�y a � erary �ct�+ pl��c�� ount��A 5. �d��nd - ��-050� - ��,� �diundl ha�� ry� succc��a��u�t ��a�cc� �'�r�an ��uca��c�Q us%t�c��s �� ti�� s4u�tt�a��s� ��a�nc�r �� Sk��l�►n �a�d �►ac�11�c�� a��n��. �`hs� or��#��al s��r��urc� �a� a�dd�i �o ir� ��80, �� +�i�h► ��a � P�an�Qc� lie�i� �r�c�lop�►�a�c �� gcacQ$sQ�� n��ch �� h�re �� esi��nce ��d �t�e o�Eicct ��1c�ire� on thc� ��,r��e ��Q. �h� Q��na�l bu�id�n4 �a� �� i� i��7+ and c6��rc� �� ,� �ig� �� c�d �unQ �0, �9�9. �'h� ��n�� qn �� a�.x�rQ�im�c�l� �Q ��u��°er �c��. ��ar, � ��n ean�i��i�� E �a�� p�ar�Q�� t ��,�$ f� � ��10� ��a �� § �qu��Q �� anc3 10 �q�asr� f��, '�� a�a�t r�cen� ��n �� x �, �n� a�� a��,�� n l�`��. b� w,i��es� �o ��p�s�c� �h� cu�r�r�t �s��n� �rh�.c� �� Qa� �c��e��nQ, 3sU� �a� l l � 1 � �qu��e �c�� ia�r�@r �ha�n ��Q �o�� e�c�n� �i�r� � �� w�l� �l�es ta� r��a��t�� h� �sal�, ��au�� i� dc�te�i��a�tng� Th� �i��n�d f1r�� t��r�Q�opmc�n�t ��rar��d �n �'�8Q d�d �o� �s��ci�� the �l�n, i�d�much �� eha Q�ci��,�n� ��gr� �i�►piy► �c�maira�ct. �e� �I�o pro��s �o ��cQ th� new p�l� �@v�� aQt b��k iur�hc�� rom the� Sne�llin� Av�nucz ri�ht�n�- �'�Y, I� �pp��s undar thcr cir�.umst�nc�� th�t ,i� �►ouid 1�a unn�c�z�s�r� �o �roeQs� a��r,� �nee� �`o� thi� mi�or ch�nge in ��n si�� it �as i�t��asrinc� �a notQr hir, �dl�nd"s a�anc�+ �� Q �ar�Q�� c��c� �'a�m m,u+��l agenc� �n �ho U�it�� S��te� t�l,��ht�� l�r��r th�� th� n�ar�s� compoci�ion in T�xasi. � i � • • Page 3 6. Gierstad - 484-1216 - Ron Gjerstad is the manager for MGM Liquor Stores, and was in to discuss the use of the additional space in his building proposed to be rented. They propose to make their ste�Xe smal.ler, and rent out more than th�e planned 1,000 square feet previously proposed. He noted that the whit� eear Store had 11,500 square f eet (with 800 square feet rented�, their Little C�nada stor� had 10,500 square f�et (no rentalD� end the Larpenteur Avenue stoxe has 7, 000 square feet ( no r��ata�l �. H� noted tha�t th� Larpentcur store does dou�le �he volume af th�e others. The Ra�evil�e building i� planned far 10,000 �qua�r� fee+t, wi�h iiiGt� propos�nc� to t�kc� 9.OQ0 s�r�are fee* ini�ially. He plans to Qut us�rs in the rQnt�ble spacQ that dc� no� have ��rg� parkin� requirem�nts, and �ho�e peak� vsry f�om thQ peak parkinc� nrteds o€ th� �1C�� liquor ��ora�. NQ notQd t��aC �5� of +�hei� �Su�inoss i� dot�o on �'��da� �n�d Sa�urday� ��a�mall�y ��cam 1�0 5 a�d 8- 9 l�a�i�� tl�s��r pQ�k �x�Qds. One use h� �� t�f�nk�n� o# fs a b��bdr sho�s which +�ould �ot bc� e�n �v�n�n��. �tQ not�tl e�hae it i� al��awable �o makQ thc� liq�or storQ �rt��iler, �ut �h�� t �auld � ��p��tarat �o ren� �ha� s�p�cQ �o l.ow �a�� p�a k3.n� u��r�, �n� whr��c� p��k ��r�Cinq ��t�� d�� roen �hQ lic�t�or ��"�. �t� �� i�ed ata�►e�� ou� ��r�vc�rs��o�� t��h �i�l �iv►c� �c�q�rti�raq ��c� ��ur r��Q�� o� e�� s�m��t ��dc� c�! �h� �Q�a��,�e road �o �a� ��i�c�r andl �Q�$�dc�r r��ae��l� p�ri��,n� ��Qs� c�,� ��vt�� s�sc� o� t�hQ l�iqha��y� �a��os�� ndl. ��n no��td �� p�� !a� t�� p�� i��me�eh �� cogr��c ��►� n��l ea #��a�e ��i��4'11 �ilioi��• i. o�u� = i`h� �1u��tsg�� ,�� lcs. ��►�� und�� t�rc� br�� 4l��id tAo?�Yk�+ ��ti BYr�4!<.��ii ��V �HI4�%J�1s�ld� �473��il� �4 �k#tV �Q�\.��'�� 'a�'��i�,� �� 1s$'f_��fi'$��41 'i�� E:�i�w� �� a �14Q� �ro��c� t� z��a��l �he ��1�� a��h b��ck ��c��ax, �s�� o��►rd r�o� �lb�� ha 1br.�c�. p�� o�k�� .�� a� �h� �lu� ��i�� o��, �r�� , d�� uQ� wh�c� +�� EaQI w�c�+�l� � ap�r��ar��ce �� t�� i��. �t� ��+� c�r��rna+d ��u� ��vinr� � b�i��►� t��u� �tn�� w��lc3 �� Q��,��oaa��. �na�m�ch �g �h��cz �� i�� d��a.��ma�at te !�h� am�� c� �hs� �ou�h. 6, 'T.G. � . ��,icl� ".� � t ��4 ��7-9�8� - R��p L�m�b��r+�, � rv�n� �ta��k� t �I��cei �� n�1�nc�e� � �rad He�b '�um��, A�A� ��r� in ta �iscu�� hQ �ropQ�ad devQao�mea�e of '�.G. � t E"rici�►y"s, �s� �r�vioar�l� a�aprovQd in �t�� oah.mann' � P1�� Sh��in� �Q�n�ar sitc�, �h� sitQ ol�ns now drawr� in laret�r sca.�oe Yne�icatQri th� �ar��d bui�din� �o b�r �,lr��t �xacely th� ��m� �� t�� prflviously review�d �al�ns. ThQrQ would ba 29� s�at�� with 236 in the di�ing ��ca, �nd 6� in thae b�ar �rea, ThQ � D.- t�lding wouid have � f 396 �quarQ fc��. Sita pl�r�s indicat�d a conn�ction to �he bank site to th� �ouths Their l�as�, ta ^��r, do�s not ca11 for this connec�i�n, nor i� it p �c d at this c�oir��. in tim�. The City's appr�v�l stat�� . . • • Page 4 that a connection may be made, with the condition that the � City may close it if there is a traffic problem that develops. The building will be constructed of brick, with a mansard cedar shake roof, with a parapeti wall of four feet, one inch. They indicate this parapet will be high enough to cove� the mechanical equipment on the roof. Trash will be in an enclosed brick wa1'l, 25 f��t by 50 feet, �he building and land will be leased on a 15 ye�r term, with two five- year options. w� talked about their proposed signing, indic�tinq ther� will be a tote� of throe pylon signs on the site, of which on� can be �h�i�s, wo noted their siqn cen be 25 fQet high, �ith �40 sq�are feet tmeasurad on one side�. �h�y plan �o ha�� con��uctio� drawings compl�t� by �ta� 20, w�th an Au��t 12 co�struc��on start, �hey e�reQ� ta pre�a�e a ��d�c�pin� pl�n e�ound their immQdiate �rQa for whi�h t�ay are �a�p�nsiblQ ��thi� the ne�� Q� woQks, �hQy �i�� view si�� r�p�o�als with �c�r�s�nc�tiv�s �E �h� ��p�i�� cc�e��, �nd �Q� �ack e� u� re�e�tlin� s��if�c ��qn l��a�fon and s��. �i�� bu��ding �� v�� 1��1�� o chc�r la�Q�� M4�4�� ir4d��4��l4�¢Q� 8-}f G7�V'dF�\1�•��Mff ��6i� �i%�Q�ii1i �� p�r��e�r thc�� bu��in�a ar�d a►i�l �c�r� �u�t�ar a��h �hc� gu,�%�it�� n��e��, �'��a ��s�$1 ��d �E�Q l�c��h �n��Q�. �! �Q ��■ ` ��'�Q�� '� �S�Fii�i� �� lsiF �`i7114R Ib�� 6sid41►��/ � �►n� �� :e��ok��i �� ur � ��-��,��t �to�e �� +th� �a�sa�r�i l �� a � '�� d�c��Q� �o� �� g�u��aQ �h�: �a�� '�� {�'�C��."r ��C ��iQ� 8E`C#' ��C��'9� �6��0�IC�� Q� d �Q�'�1C�C/ti plK�� t� i� �� A �e. �� d��c�a��d �� p��n�� a��e �� tc� °��t�p�� . �9�, ��r ��t�� s�� h� ��+�� il�trr �h�n aQ��,�r�� .�1. "�h� �� ar�� fl4�.04Q ��a�� , ��0 ��Q ��l�� Q�4, �� rz� �,o�►� ��a�� r ��, �t� �aa��cd. �h� ��k�� t��d � �� t� �h� �r��t, a+s�h �h� �+a,�� t �� a�� .�� a�� +� ��t� ��t�� . t�{� r�� r ��°�� br� ��ilc�� +��d ��, �u��a�� , �� +�e�� t��.�� tck. �� e� :.._.�_-� ��a�t��d �� dt�� '�r�. R��.�� h� ��d�a�� o� t3�� t ��a�� a��u�e� �� r � �Q=��e ��d��d �� e �h� r�Q�th, t��rd �e�� Ra�:� �. ��+� �� c�� e ��w�� L�r�� kQ ��d. Th�� e��d ��a t�� kt�►�.��,�� r��+�i�� a� �o e�� c�r�a� �� +� �"�x ��r��r�t ��°i�� F�� uch. �h�� ,�e� weuld a� ��n��c�nt �a�tt� tho ��' � pc�li��+ ca� a��tem�tina �c� m�kcs �hcs L,�t�+� G�k� R��d �� tQ �tet� t��tt� m�C'e �� i�g� ��r ��n�u�n�� usQ a '�h� �: ��ratl �� r�a� �n �h� Ta�� In��r�en� ��i��, b�t �� d�:�elopm�nt �auld ��f�t�� th� ��c��ai�. �nvir�nm�n�. wa ��+��ted ti�at eh�� st�uctur� wou].d � k�e � considar�b�.a improv�m�n� c��s� th� �ru�k park,�ng ar�a and �� e�rmi�al f�cilit� pr��a�cly �ccupy�ng tho sitr�. Mr, Seyl�r �l�o CI�5�115�� w�.�t� us �hQ p�t��tial use of tho Ruas� propc�rty to eho ��s� for a mot�l conc�pt, similar to that whic�; was re�ently constru��d in Ecl�n Prairio. This � � Page 5 � concept utilizes small suites orien�ed t�ward a landscaped courtyard. The building in Eden Praa�rie is quite handsome, and would mak� �an �ppropri�t� use fax the Ruan siteA Thei� potential buyer wauld also �au� a r�st�urant on tn� s�t� �� was pr�viously g�rn�aosed �nr the site. W� encr�t�raged t�x. Seyler to pur�ue th3,s land use, noting� tF�at the City's objectiv�s is for int�m�ive �rad attr�etiv� d�vel�pment of the 2anei. w� h�d previously d��rmin�c� that th3s �i�� can be� r�acliiy �ddcd t�o ehe T�x Incr�m�nt Di�strict, 10. Ol��rg - 489s63�9 - R�t� ��rg h�� r��cently� Qu�ch�s�d � ha�� ean a 82.�9 ��at 1ot �aut� o� F��rk�r. Sh� �l�o owns �ha cont,��u�us l�t �o th� Q��e. Sha wa�a ir� �a di�cu�s a vat�anc� to �h� fr��t y�r� �e�t��e:k �+hici� �ro�ai� �i:�c+�+ �Qr ta bv�� a�h�c�e-ca� ��qc� in �h� �r�n� af th� dwc�llinc�. �t ��pe��.� �h� �x.��t��q� ��.ts��a�e� �� f��c� �pprr�a��r��c��y 43 �e��, �cr►d � ,�2 �e��t ��r�+�a ��e�lc9 �e��v� �1 �`acs� �o� th� �p�rBr��g ��` verh�+��r�� t� ��o�� a� th� �a�r�g�c�s C�u��r��nq why .�h� w�nt+�d � �hrc�Q-c�� t�r�Q, �h� �o��r� �� hcs hau�e �� a ��x. 6�� h��ac� �h� �+�n��q r��m�d� �nd ��d �hat �� p��rt� �� a�� w��c�� R-�, :�h� no�� 0�� i� � ��g� ��+�a-�� hc��. �r�� hat �� rp�� 1�� va� ca��aw+�r�� h� �a.+nQ� tc� � �a�� c��c�� 4 �t� �� ►�� . +��r �r��c�� h�t� �� a ��d��s� �� r�� to �h� ho�� ao�a� �� :� �.�� o,�r,-��a��aa��a� �i��w �a��a �y� �u��a �s�� a�+�p ��+�h�� ha��a � ��c�r��s�� r�� h� �� ca��,��a� �r� �c�� +� �.� � ��c. �� d�� p�a��as� �o� fk4[b�1�f4!!�4 ��4tia�� y#�� 9�4F� �41hs�Sd�Ci1k� #d'�E��L'fd 8�� VYR� ��1� �� +��. �.�� ►��5 �a��.� h�� h.la�� , �h�.c� ��, �h� ��e�� a� �c�� 1�� o�� y�� s. ��d �cc�� o�� »�� ht� �:�n� w�� tae� ��p�t�� ti��. r�� r�� 1�� i��{'� �� 9�� ae� ��-�� h� ha��d� �� '��°�. � � . ��_- ��Q� - �� .��u � �� a��t�� a�;hcr ��v�z� �� "��.� � ��•�� irac� ��a��. �r�� .� ��n� �� :�� +�� r� ��s� ��:��a� �� R��i��, c�� a�� Q�� a��,l�� +�� u � �� ►�� p��+d��+�:� . ��, �i+��t� - ��4-�� r��x� !#�� r�� a�ir��r ��c� ��a�,is�c! �n �na° �� t� �c �l�� n+��th�►�� r�� #��h�ray �� nd ��c� ��c. �#� h�� cc�ra�� dQ��.�n �ar��a�od �� hK� €�a � N�ry� �e��cc�� b�a�� r��O �,b�4 �c�ua�� +at. 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MEMORANDUM DATE; T0: FROM: RE: 1. �. � 8 l�pril 19�5 Jim Andre Howard Dahlgre;n Planning Office Hours - Apri1 3 and 4, 1985 Wenthold - 333�-6515 - Jim Wenthold is a realtor with Bob BQblett Associates, who was in with J�rry Sorenson of Pacific Storage Company and Harlan MeGregor o� Standard Oil. Sta�dard Oil Y�as a 5.1 aere site fronting on and south of County Road C, a portion of which is zaned B-4 (easterly) and the remainder is zoned I-2. They are ennsidering selling the property to �Ierry Sorenson of Pacific Storage Cor�pany for the purpose of building a mini-warehouse facility on the property. This use is not permitted in the B-4 Zone, and thus a rezoning would be necessary for tY�is operation to be construeted. We reviewed with them the background to the City's decision in the 1 C h P1 t d 1 t' f th 979 ompre ensive an o re eve op ma�or por ions o e industri.al area i'or business purposes. We outlined the procedures used to accomplish this purpose, the �.ntent and regula�ions of the B-4 Distriet, and the objectives behind the creation of the tax increme.nt district. W� noted that in view of these policies and action:�, that the City Council would likely be very reluctant to rezone that portion of the land from B-4 to I-2 so as to allow such a low intensity use as a mini-warehouseo Though Roseville does not have such a facility, we suggested that other properties in the City would be more appropriate. We noted that t�he City's only direet aceess to I-35W (where redevelopment is possible in all four directions) is at County Road C. The City's planning policy is to develop more intensive development at these sites. W� discussed �he possible conflict between future development on the �ite, both east and west of the present entrance to the gasoline terminal. We informed Mr. MeGregor that the City has no policy intent to remove the Standard Oil storage tank farm from this area. We had discussed possible ways in which the e�trance to the storage tank facility could be changed, so as to enhance the C� ' � e Office Hours Page 2 potential for the frontage along County Road C. One such alternative may be access off of Long Lake Road in an appropriate fashion, if a considerably enhanced proposed development on the County Road C frontage occurs. 2. Lee - 484-9000 - We a�ain reviewed revised plans for the development of the property at the northeast corner of Lexington Avenue and Highway 36 with Larry Lee. We discussed the n�ed for the upgrading of Grandview Avenue and the City's policy wherein half of the street would be assessed directly to Mr. Lee's property and that the street would be moved to the canter of the right-of-way (it is now built on the northerly half of the b0 foot right�of-way already dedicated). David noted that provision would have to be made for ponding on the site. Mr. Lee said he would have his engineer prepare sueh plans immediately. We also discussed the need fUr the operators of the proposed senior citizens housing facility to establish their parking needs base�l on their existing operation. This facility is to be operated by Alvi.n Fish.er's "Design for Living Unlimited" organization,. They currently operat� such facilities in four cities in North Dakota and one in Dallas, Texas. This proposal is to be referred to the Council at Monday night's � Couneil meetin� (April 8) and will consi.st of a rPzoning (a pflrtion of the R-3 land), a special use permit for a day care center, a special use permit for a plannPd unit development, a preliminary plat, and a varianee to parking and density. The parking proposed curr�ntly at 1.5 spaces per unit, substantially more than previQus senior citizens housing projects in Roseville. We want to be assured, however, that 1.5 spaces per unit will �e adequate. There wili also be an application to amend the Compreriensive Plan so as to indicate the con�truction of approximately a 9,000 square foot offi.ce building c�n the site now oceupied by the tw� single family homes. One of these homes was purchased with a life estate, and thus th� actual development of the office buildin� may be some time off. Mr. L�e also agreed that a revised landscape plan will be prepared by a professional landscape architect. We suggested that facilities for outside recreation, walkways, and a play lat for grandchildren should be ineluded with the c�esign. As suggested earlier, Mr. Lee is going to conduet his visits with the imme�iate n�ighborhood this weekend now that they have �he proposal delineateda We are hopeful that thi� will be aecep�able to the neighborhood ir� the sense that no aceess comes off of Grandview and that tb.e nearest multi-family s�ructure is 80 feet south of the Grandview Avenue right-o�'-way wzth a11 of the parking on the south side of the building. �3. Glowa - 893-8828 - Dale Glowa is a repi^esentative of United Properties, which is the �°ormer real estate arm of the Hamm Brewi.ng �� Office Hours Page � Company. It is currently owned by a member �f the Hamm family. Unxted Properties has been very aggrsssive in developin� office parks, primarily in the Metropolitan Area. Though ha�ing never developed in Roseville, they� are interested in Roseville. Seein.g Dale at a r°ecent meeting, �ae suggested he come to City Hall to review the tax inereme�t program and the properties affected with the staff. Steve North had met with United Properties some mon�hs back as we11. We reviewed the status and objectives of the brid�e development and diseussed the ty�pes of d�velopment contemplated in the program. David reviewed the potential timing for pridge construction. Da1P requested demographic data whieh Steve will have prepared �o pass on to him. We gave Dale a copy of the tax increment program. We are in need of more explanatory graphies and data to promote the tax inc.rement program similar to that which is being offered in other communities. Dal� exhibited considerable interest, and we are hopeful United Properties will pursue that interest. �. Her�andez -�88-8610 � M�. Hernandez was baek to review his revised plans for a minor variance for the lo�ation of his driveway diseussed at a previous meeting. The site plan now ;ndicates the driveway to be one (1) foot from the property line only in that area where is passes around his existing garage to t�� rear yard. � We discussed the sizing of a culvert to go under the driveway to accommodate an east-west drainage easement through the property. 5� Ha�l -��9-�391 - Reverend Hall was in to review their site plan and building plans for the proposed rezoning and development �f tYieir office building at the northwEst corner of Garden and Lexin�ton Avenue. The building will be 5,076 square feet for which they have the appropriate parkiilg. Mr. Hall has visited the ne�ghbors and reports that he has considerable support for the proposal. This application r�quires an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan and a rezoning from R-1 to Ba1. Though this puts more commercial property on Lexington Avenue, this site could funetion as a final transition from commercial (B-3 in the south) to the single family area to the north. 6. Fe�ris � 633-6830 - Richard Ferris lives at 2718 Dellwood Street Znortheast corner oP Dellwood and Woodhill) where he proposes to add a 10 fo�t �y 18 foot carport on the north side oF his existing gara��. The existing garage is 17 feet fram the :�i�ht-of-way makin� it non-conforming. A minor varianee is propo�zd to be processed so that the addition to the garage can be validated. 7. Bisanz - 893-880� - Tom Bisanz is also a representative of United Properties 3nd is looking for potential multi-family housing sites in Rosevi�le. Economic studies they have had conducted by Le� � Maxfield indicates a potential 300 to 350 rental apartment units in Rosevill�. Roseville enjoys one of the lowest occupaney rates in the Metropolitan Area� We reviewed potential sites in the City � �� Office Hours Page � planned for multi-fami�y development, procedures, and requirements. We gave him copies of pertin�nt maps, and reviewed five potential sa.tes in the City. 8. Wilson - 252-b262 - Steve Wilson is a representative of Company, which visited with us in the recent past potential mul.ti-family housing sites for hi� company. diseussed optional sites but in particular look approximately 3.3 acr� site at the �outheast corner Street and Highway 36. This is an old gravel pit, zc shown in the Comprehensive Plan as medium density h appeared that this site could be enlarged by purchasing the deep lots to the south, adding approximat�ly 1.5 Comprehensive Plan indicates that the bac;k of �hese included in the medium density area. This i� nc 1t' f the Brutger looking for We �gairr �d at �he of Victoria ned R-1 but >using. It the back �f �.eres . The lots to be t the best mu i- amily houszng site in�smuch as aecess is circuitous, Victoria Street being a cross-over (not an interchange) with Highway 36. Brutger Company is a good developer (Dan Bru�ger, chairman of the Stadium Commission, from Saint Cloud) and we are er.couraging them to develop in Roseville. The company also owns Sunwood Inns and Thrifty Scott Motels. We diseussed �he tax increment potentials as well. � 9. Towley - 6�1�-3557 - Gene Towley is with the Knutson r�eaity Company and has a commission to sell Fred Frosheiser's residentia]. estate at 19�5 North Prior. The property has 140 feet of frontage on the west side of Prior, with a single family residenee at the north �nd of the property. We discussed the possibilities for dividing the lot, or that of rezoning the pro�erty to R-2. We discussed the procedures and policies of the City regarding sueh 1ot divisions and rezoning. We suggested he review these with residents in the area, and consider one of the two options. � Lots in the area vary from 75 feet to g0 feet generally. It appears that a 68 foot lot would be possible south of the existing structure. The existix�g 1�40 foot loti i� �rossly out of scal� with others, though a�8 foot lot is smaller in scale than others in the arsa. There are, however, some 60 foot lots south of the property. 1Q. Ryden - Bruce Ryden was in to visit with us regarding his coneerns for fire safety at the two new restaurants on the Fine property (Stuart Anderson's Cattle Company and FudruekerPs)� H� noted the posting of the roads and internal parking areas that have been done to assure fire apparatus aceess. Though eaeh of these restaurants has parking far in exeess of ordinance requirements, it appears they are en�oy�ng at least initial phenomenal success. It appears several unusual factors are in effect here. One i.s that neither ot' the�e rPstaurants take reservatians so at both restaurants there is often 50 to 100 peop�� waiting in line (at'ter they have parked their cars). It appears also that particularly 0 �� C� � Office Hours Stuart Anderson's has a substantial liquor lounge emerging as a favorite "singles spot'�. Thes individually in cars, and may stay three hours with occupancy in the lounge area. Page 5 business and is e folks arrive a high level of In general, �ruce Ryden perceives that w�e have a where there is a liquor lounge funetioning in conjunetion�w pth bthe restaurant. This is less of a problem at places like Red Lobster, whieh seem to be more family oriented versus the bar operation. R�d Lobstsr, in faet, has less parking than is required, due to a variance issued when they put on their addition several years aga. Bruce noted the problem also exists at E1 Turrito's Friday nights (singles pick-up night). O1 Mexico i�ularly on recall, had a similar � � you will problem on Lexington Avenue whieh was corrected by developing auxiliary parking across the street. We are cot�cerned that when Luther's and the MGM Liquor S�are open that a parking problem will be further a that Luther's also enjoys considerable su ee�essaind� 4ae und�rstand past loea�ians. Two things can be done. One is �o amend the parking regulations and recognize the additional parking needs connected with the lounge. The 4ther, with respect to the Fine proper�y, would �e �o promote the development of additional service road on the hi hwa ri h�_o�a Waing facilities aeross the interehange is not i.n the current 20 ear� The County Road C highway improvements. Thus it ma be Y prOaected program fQr west of the �ervie� road for auxi iar possible to l�ase some land, Fine following our staff ineetin�s, a d he has�agreed �to spearhead �his effort. We noted that it would be in the interest of all four o�' the operatars to have adequate parking f�r their eustomers. Simply putting the employee parking across the serviee road �ay accomplish much of the d�sir�d result. We wi11 keep in touch with Bill Fine, and lend support where necessary to explore this possibility. 11. Beseth - Gordy Beseth discussed with us a desire on the par� of Joe Mast, owr�er of the apartment Gomplex north of the Rainb�w Foods store to have a chain link fenGe replacing the existing wooden fenee that fun�tions as a sereen between the commercial and the multi-family nousing area to the north. We su check the Couneil's aeti.on regarding the develo�men�� a that Gordy the Rainbow Food Stnre when it was initiall p a ppr°val for Spartan Discount Store development. If the ya pproved as the specifically require a wooden fenee, it wo uld �Val does not substituting a ehain link fence would be a AAea. tha� link fence could also be constructed with pwoodena slatsThthereby f unetioning as a vist�al screen. Wooden fences have often proved unsightly because they consistently need repair. 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'� �� I� � � � � � � a.ii ` � � �I _ \ �u� ��0� a 3120 = C z� �. — D = 25�0 � = E a� � l� J� f ,� _ H _ :�.o �'� iGQ40 J 1920 � K � �aoo � � _ �sao I �I :11 �i �I `I' " �I II gl! �I II— .� : �� a�1� 20 �� s�'�° P Acorn Roa N:4 Draper Ave. i�,4,??i13 Little Bay Rd. � Aglen A� C-D:13 Draper Drive � Lon9 Ln�� P.�. " Ag1en St. F,K:13 Dunlap St. ,F,L:12 Loren Rd. 'Aladdin St. E:16 Eldridge Ave. I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 Lovell Ave. alameda St. I,K:16 Elmer St. J:19,20 Lydia Ave. Albemarle St. I:20 Eustis St. E,H:1 lydia Court Albert St. A,8,r,H:10 Evelyn St. A•5 Lydia Or. Aldine St. B,E,�:7 Evergreen Ct. J:5 Mackubin St. Alta Vista Dr. K-L:16 Fairview Ave. A-J•6 Manson St. Arona St. A-C,F,J:9 Fairways Lane I:2� Maple Lane Arthur P1. B:6 Farrington Ave. I:19 Maple Lane Ct. Arthur St. A:6 Farrington CT. A:19 � Marion R A,Nu;y St. A,B,J:9 Farrington St. B-D,H,L:19 ��-�`��n Auerbach Ave. G:19 Farrington Circle F:19 i�` � d � Autumn St. K:12 Fernwood Ave. I-L• Mattld Avon St. A,E,I:15 Fernwood St. �� :11 � McCarron . N. Bayview Dr. J:18 Fisk St. �1 'C� McCarron B�+vd S. Beacon St. E,F,J:7 Fry St. `� ,I: •` McCarrons �t,' Belair Cir. 8:11 Fulham St. G-J:2 Midland Gro� Rd. Belmont Lane I:1C�,11,16 Galtier Circle F:20 Hidland Nills Rd. �Bismarck Ave. G:19 Galtier St. B-D,F,L:19 Midlothian Rd. Bossard Dr. H:18 Garden Ave. K:11,12 Mid Oaks Lane 8 F Brenner Ave. A:5,6,9,10,13-15 Giesman St. I-J•19 Mildred Dr. Brenner Court A:2 Glenhill Road A:10 Millwood Ave. Brenner St. R:I Glenwood Ave. K:17,18 t4illwood St. Brooks Ave. F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 Gluek Lane H:6 Milton St. Brooks Circle F:19 Gluek Lane N& S -. H:6 Mim�Fsota �ve. Bruce St. F:7,8 Grandv�yr e� "'-�G:13-16,18-20 Moundsview Ave. Burke Ave. I:10-14,I9,2Q Griggs �S i� �� C,D:12 �unt Ridge Rd. Ca pitol View H:19,20 Grotto �. -� � '•• N:15 Nancy Place Capitol View Cir. H:19 Haddington Road �� H: Northview St. Carlisle Ave. �;17 Hamline Ave. •1 Oakcrest Ave. ,�'e�nt�►1r�i' �� 7,9,10,18 Hand Ave. G, : Oakcrest Lane ri �'Qrite�.� ---• �"SjK%20 Heinel Dr. A-D:15-17 Old Highway 8 Chancller St.µ�� 'iC:17 Heinel �e C-16 Orchard Lane Chatsarerth �`,j�.. ,� B,F,G,J-L:13 Her che ve. E,H:7 Owasso Blvd. S Churchill St. `'°^�" A,C,D,F:13 4 s St. J:7 Owasso Blvd. W Civic Center Dr. � D:12 �� gh�s Road A,B,G,H:1 Oxford St. Clarmar Ave. • A:9,10 �-_- �� ve. K-17 Parker Ave. Cleveland Ave. A-F,I,J:4;u:4-6 Holton St. F•10 Partridge Rd. Cohansey Blvd. H-J:18 Huron Ave. K:11 Pascal St. �C�hansey St. E-G:18 Huron St. C-D:11 Patton Rd. Colonial Dr. G:10 Hythe St. J:4 Pineview Ct. Commerce St. H:9,10 Iona Circle C:18 Primrose Curve Cope Ave. 6:15,16 Iona Lane C:S,C,D:16-20 Prior Ave. County Road B H:1-20 Ione St. L:11 Prior Circle County P.aad 62 F:5-20 Irene Circle C:18 Rambler Court County Road C D:1-20 Irene Court F:18 '�� • Rambler Rd. County Road C2 8:1-7,9-12,1?_-14,19,20 Irene St. E,F • �,� Raymond Ave. Courty Road D A:1-7,12-16 Jasephine Rd. 8:1 , 2 � � Rice St. Crescent Lane I:18 Judith Ave. C:10-13,18 �Ridgewood La. N Christy Circle E:11 Kar,yl P1acQ I:12 Ridgevrood Rd. Dale Court K:16 Kent St. t B,J :I7 Roma Ave. Dale St. C-L:16 Lake St. �, �''�' '- .2 � Rose Place . t ._ ::S De1lwQod Ave. C,I-i :11 Lakeview Ave��!_j'r�'-��•0 D:�, � � Rose Vista Ct. Dellwood St. E-H:I1 Larpenteur Ave. "��1;1�2 Rosedale Dr. Dionne Ave. L:19 Laurie Road H:3,8,12 Roselawn Ave. Dionne St. L:12 13 Lexington Ave. A-L:12 Rosewood La. N E ' � Eindy Ave. 1,E:12 '- � Ruggles St. � � rt �. ,.. � t .,,, • • � ussel l Ct. ��j � ,.� }.f { f--w, � E i � ' � t i. r� , . , . '� ��i�� I1 � ' s t s = .�k-� i *E • �w' � � i �' . � � � � � � t � Y 't . . � . �w...w..,.y r t __ '-- "' y.� — � -- A:I7,18 . Kyan Ave. � A-F:3 Sandhurst Drive J:� Sandy Nflck Or. G:13-16,18 Sextant Ave. A,6:1,5-14 Shady Beact�� A:1 Sharandale Ave. A-B:14 Sheldon St_ C D,J,L:17 Sherren St. 8:1 Shorewoad Cv. & La. 6:1,7,8,20 Shryer Ave. 6:19 Simpsons St. H:3 Skillman Ave. 6-I,L:20 Snel�ing Ave. F:19 Snelling Curve B-D,F,G:19 Snelling Serv.Dr. W J:18-20 Snelling Serv.Dr_ E K,1:18-20 Southhill Dr. B-O,H,K:11 S.T.N H : 4 � • ' � �f F . 3� J;3 ��{ r•`�,� � rv. N N-I:8 ' "" S.1jH. erv. S d. J;8 S.T.H 280 A,6:6 St_ Aldans St 6:7-8,I0,13-15 St. Croix 6:1,19 St. Stephens St. A,H,:14 Stanbridge Ave. G:18-20 Stanbridge St. J:17 State Farm Road A-D:5 Stuber Road G,N:14 _Sumner St. B:20 Talisman Curve E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Tatum St. E:19 Terminal Road A-6:1-2 Terrace Or. C:14 Tophill Circle A-C:16-20 T�•ansit Ave. A-6:15-16 Troseth Rd. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Victoria St. I:13-15 Virginia Ave. 6:3-4 Virginia Circle A-F,N-J:10 Wagener Place A-E:1 Wagner St. ,�-1 --� Wal nut St. West Perimeter Dr. .—B-&�-�f� Western Ave. A:5 # Westwood Circle 0:18 Wewers Road D:10 Wheaton Ave. A-6:4 Wheeler Ave. A-L:20 Wheeler St. L S J:8 Wilder St. A:9 William St. L:11-13,16,19 Nillow Circle E:I,2,7-12,15,16,18 Wil�ow Lane L:11 Woodbridge Circle J:3 Floodbridge ourt J : 2-14,17 f�oo '�'3� � S J : 3-4 �Iop 1 �. .__� K:11-13 Noo nn Drive � , 6:8 ,., t= Woo ff Ave- •�q !3 + -s �: . '.�'+t�_} _ �,9-13,17 .10-12,I4,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,I5,16,18 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-I5 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,16,17 A,B:9-1G;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 6:18 A-8:4; G-H:1-4 G-H:1-20 6-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 N-J: 1 C,F,G,L:16 6,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 K:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 G:18 F:9-14,16-20 8:1-2 A-L:14 �;-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:17-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:5 I,J:29 . E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 ..�,. .��_.� �� .L d~ -` A:9-I0,13,14,I9,2a - tC:l� # „ s los//i/t1�0�■ � Il'�N� VATI'� . � . p . �Q� ' �I C� i� �.�A� : �� I�� Thfi E �C�C�►!� �C��lil+��' �� C��L��I�� C��l.� I� ��l�' �� VN��' .. PR�D�l�E �I� A��'T�► �L� MI��iLM � �M��. April 8, 1985 S T0: FROM: SUBJECT: � � � ►Ji.m Andre Howard pahlgren Planning Office Hours - March 27, 1985 1. Le� _ qg4-9000 - Larry Lee, dev�loper, was in with Jeff Iisakki, his archite�t, �c� ag�in review his preliminary development plan foz �he prap�rty atiishWas4i�isethi�rd �i��tof Lexington Avenue and Hig1�waY 36, 'Th with the staff regarding his development P�StY°,ucturessl��chg of two senior citiz@ns mark�t-rate housf.ng with an atrivan?. a Daycar� c�n��d►bynd�� me� �tfth� building on the site now oc p immeda�ate southwe�t corner nf �h�an��s•h�g�e�en�ity multiis indicated on the Compreh�nsive P1 family housing. A poxtion of the site wil�. hav� �O bThis rezoned, contiguous to td�sinul�-fami�.Yf andn�iSi°pp°site ar�a oE th� land is z�ne 9 single-f amily homes on the norRh S�ruczu��backr74�fee�n��'om seGs the �enic�r citiz�ns hou�si g the right-of-waY of Grandview Aven�he n��ghbors�twhoamaYhis �oint he discuss thes� p�lans �aith respond favorably to the d�v�lopmont, inasn�u�n► as na acces� is made to Grandview Avenue. Th� Qz�s�aec�ss�woulci�b� °�at the northwest corner of the sit�c. of a cent�r private road exten�do�,�Lovell��x ��98u99�$'��d�he� the cul-de-sac at the w�st �n mak� this ro�d wida.r, anductures�hsorasdto makc�a bet��r b��reen the two ma�or st parking arrangement end bett�ei��ossible taeremaveiP��i�� Th3.s red�signing should mak P ehat would otherwise back inco the privato roadway syst�m. 4ne of the I�om�s purchas�d has ��i�heeis�hop��ulctMas�o�n�x purcha�e• T�arrY L�e indi,cat�s that Wj,ll pL'��C[ to move iRco the s�n�o� a��'dQv�lopmo@��o�manin� �hc propc�ty available for the ultim office structure� which may occurSat a 1atQr sta9e (i� tMo hom� r�mains in life �state statti� ). David Drown review�d the storm drai�a9� uir�*d�on�th�hsit�t@� noti�g tha� some ponding area may b 9 Th�re is an existing storm s�Wp��,king is@proposedhatCono�on� of the p�operty (easc-w�st). and one half spaces per unit� mThismprojectnwouldacome in provided f�r senior citizens. the form of a plak, PUD, re2on�.ng iac least a portion �� rh� single-fami1y land), and a varianhehis a�d�signanandarking. Lee will bc bac:k to thE staf f wit hopefully results of ine�tings with the neighbors. Page 2 � 2. Hofineister - 770-3316 - A1 Hofineister is the manager and partial owner of the roller skating rink in Roseville. They are currently laoking at a new location in Roseville, west of Fairview Avenue, south of the old Thermo-K�.nc� building. For this coming season, he proposes to add, a portable "bumper boats" recreational facility on the parking lot, taking up appr�ximately eight spaces. Duri�g the swnmer, the use of the skating facilities i� substantiall�y down. There appears to be more tY�an ample parking, He notes that the �ma11 rubber tube type boa�s are qui�t and are an attractive recreat�onal facil�ty. Such am�usement facilities are allowed in th� B-3 zone, which this property i� �oned now. It would appear a p�rmit for this Eacility cauld b� i�sucd without processing through the Planning Com�rrission an� Council. w� also discu�sed i�.is p�ten�i�1 d�v�lopment on tMe new �ite, wh,ich would� 3s� a� new buildir�g, �rus� north of th� �`airview l�cvelopment C�mpa►ny � i�an RoPa�rt� ). It wou�.d app�ar the �x�.s�ing structurc �ro�a�c3. be tor�n down. �d� sugg�sted h� might �►ant ta ��t �z� tauch with a d�v�l�ap�r �a �ssi�t in th� rec4ev�lo�r�enr� �i t�� s�.t�. The �ite is imm�di,a�c�ly �orth €�f �h� land pra�os�d for busi.n�� s��vclopm�n� in �he i�d��tri$� ar�$. 'T�hus, a ci�ans�� in th� Com�pr�hensiv� Pla� wo�ai�d be re�uir��. 4ur intQnt is to encau�ag� a�igh � ��a�i�y l�c�i�cii�r�g, r��her thar� a� s��ucture G�n�a�ning o,�l�r �� ral.��r �ka+��.nc� �acilitic�. 3A B��c��r� -��44071� - Cli�`f Bc�rgrc�n i� a mult�i-f�to�.l� haausing de�rr�lo��r wh4 i� looki�c� �o�r � sit� Eor �perlhaF� one or �wo �c�z�ciat�,�niums t fo�ar �a��hoc�ses an� a singl� buildin�, with ��g�s und��e�t�1 • �o�e�i11� c3��s na�t ha�v� �c�� of th�s +�� af housin� �.n tho Ci�y �� of y�� . �e r�vi�a�o� tPnQ Comp��hc��.ve Fl�an inci�.ca�ing �i�� tha� a�e dQsiqn�tac� fa�r medi� �I�rss�i�� h�a��ing for i�is c6nside�r�tiun�. �1. H��rn�r�aaz -��8�8G10 -�Ge�carc��e Hc�rnand�Z has a�ery dc�ag �ingielfama.ly l�t wi�[� thc rea� Io� lir�t� contic�uoc�s t� �h� �c�y�ht-of-w�y �� °�;unk Highwa�r ��, nesz th� �e�st �nd of th� �;�c�. �� aposes ra convar� his �x.i�ting c�oub�� g�x�g� �o living s��c+�, snd �sSd � d�t�ched gar�,s�� at th� rear of th� �c�t . A� �h� driv�d�r�y c�o€S p�se th� Q�d garac�� t c�n th� w�s� sid� of ch� ic+c �, � yarianc� w,il� i�� n�cessary far the dr.iveway, which will be les� �han �iv� feo� from �the 1�� lin�. 2he garag� i� sec b�ck ten f�e� f�am the lot lxne. Thour�h h� h�,d sho�tn �hc drx��way contiguous �o t�i� lcat line in its �rctiac�ty, we �ur�g�sted tha� i.t can be mc�vcd east�rly in �ron� af �h� �id gas�ac�� and behinc3 i.'t, sv ci��t Gn� variance woul,d �pply on�.y wher� it p$sses around th� �xistinq c�arac��. k3� has ciis�uss�d �h�.s with his n�ighbor, � who approves. It would app�ar this would b� a r��sonable minox Uariance, Page 3 5. Wilson - 252-6262 - Steve Siof°theSSunwoodeInnsatThriftythe � brutger Company, developer Scot Motels, and numerous multi-family housing c�evelopments around the state. He is looking for a site to develop preferably some ten-unit housing structures at an approximate density of ten units per acre. These would be rental units, with one bedroom in at $470 per month, two bedroom units at $560 per month, and thr�e bedroom units at �600 per month. We reviewed possible sites based on the Comprehensive Plan. They are interested in the Roseville market, and will check further on possible locations for deveiopment. We also reviewed development criteria and proc�e�iures . 6. Carls�n - 292-3207 - Bruce Carlson and Richard Sor�nsen are representatives of the Schubert Club. They operate out o� the Landmark Center in St. Paul. They are the recipients �f 3tuglers Music Collection, and the single�family home and adjoi,ning seructure that formerly housed the collection southe��r�Y af Dionne Street and Lindy Avenue. The bui],ding is in n��d of major repair. The concrete block structur� has 1,840 square feet on tne ground, two stories high, �ith �pproximately 1,�00 squar� feet, pYus or minus, �,nd a fnous�. A��ce�s to the site off Dionne is through a �a�kirag lc�t fc�r the multi-family residence structure d�vElop�d by t�r. Kugler� prior to the buildinq of the � structur� ��x che °"hlusic Museuun" s w� noted that the property is �oned 8-1, and do�s no�. al�,ow retail use or S�,�r�,g� u�c, Th�y have an o€fer from the savings and loan contig�t�� '�o ��+� ��►st to ssll$�iling thetpropertyuandsted �haC �nd�r th� �iicu�ms+�ance , ��ing ghe buildings might be the most appropriate so].ution. `�� n��,��{ ,�h�,�. t�e ai�l�y on th@ south side of ti.e building �Which a3so p��cs�rides acc�ss to�cketheiredeed documentspaslt� al�ey, �nc� th�t �h�y should ch any ee��m�nts ri�hts to this alley Cbehina the shopping centex). It would apgear that selling the land ta th� ,�,vings �nd loan wo�ld solve the prQblem of this rather unus�al use contiguaus to the single-far�ily area to the r�orrh, cqrrtributinc� �a � 5n1Qvc�nthe yearsestheti.c proJalem t2�at this praperty has bee �'. �e�ine - 636-a390 - Lo�:en DeVin� is with Construction 70, who gropos�s �a tear dQwn the �xisting gas station at the nor�h�ast corn�r af Hamline anci Larpenteur, and build a new structurE tc� hou�e an auto servic@ �enter, which would incl.ud� th@ "pxe�ision tun�ng" op�ration now at the site. Seven bays �are Fropos�d, w�t� 23 parkinq spaces. we noten thcre would be a ten foot dedic�tion of right-of-way on Hamline Av�rauc. W@ discus��`S�tba� k�onitheleastf sideeoff�he variance to the twen�y foa � e � • � 4 Page 4 property, which would allow an additional bay. The rear yard, in this case, functions like a sideyard setback, as related to the �ontiguous property to the east. Thus, a ten foot setback may be appropriate because of the small scale of the site, and the need to dedicate the additional right- of -way . 8. Saari - 571-9201 - Tim Saari was back with his revised for the additions to his single-family home on Lake Josephine. The revised plans look very good, and are for submission under the Shoreline Zoning regulations. plans ready 9. .r�eary - 924-4601 - Jim Leary, realtor from Co�.dwell Banker, was in representing Dave Wier of Woodbridge Development Company, a prominent developer in the metropolitan area. Dave Wier came to a meeting with Jim Andre and the staff last year with his entourage of legal counsel, planner and tax consultant, exhibiting strong interest in the Tax Increment District on the west side of 35W. He decided not to proceed with that area, due in part to unknown timing on the bridge construction, and other reasons he did not share with us. He is, however, very interested in developing in Roseville. He has since mentioned his interest in the general area east of 35W, between County Road C and D. From C-2 to D, this area is shown as a mixed land use of single- family residential and medium density housing on the Comprehensive Plan. This land use was proposed based on the assumption in 1979 that the single-family homes would remain, for at least an extended period of time. We have infor.med him that a redevelopment effort in this area should i.nclude the purchase of all the property between C-2 and D, which could set the stage for redevelopment of the land, possibly as a Tax Increment District. He has therefore asked Jim Le<<ry to attempt to put together purchase agreements for the properties. Jim came in to report that he is now in the process of making that effort. He notes that there are 25 landowners, consisting of 37.48 acres, including a gas station on the north end. Freida Schultz owns eleven acres (a large parcel on the south), plus five acres further north. Three people said no. Others are willing and some considering. He is seeking options witn twelve months termination. Jim noted that in the event most of the properties are put together, the City as in the case of the Loehmann's Plaza project, may assist with acquisition of a few holdouts if all the others want to sell. It was noted that in the case of Loehmann's Plaza, there were seventeen landowners and three holdouts at the end. He was told that all three ultimately settled, and that on one property, the condemnation process was begun. Page 5 � The enera g 1 nature of their proposed development would include "high tech" buildings (defined in our ordinance as office service) and office buildings. We noted that careful attention to the environment for that portion of Cleveland Avenue where there are single-family residences on the east side would have to be made. We understand that the eleven acre Freida Schultz parcel is currently under short-term option to another developer, who is contemplating an off-price retail discount center. We had discouraged this proposal from an isolated land u�e standpoint with that developer (Leonard Vaness). Jim Leary noted that his attempting to put together th� entire area had an overall price of $2.00 per square foot. His principal problem is that the better homes on the east side of Raymond Avenue are on very small lots. Thus, this land cost may run closer to that which was paid on the Loehmann Plaza property, which in the overall ran between six and seven dollars per square foot. Jim said he would continue to work, and would keep in close touch with the City regarding his progress. It is likely that if he succeeds, the zoning district applicable to this � land may be a modification of the B-4 district, withuut retail sales. A restriction on the amount of one-story office service buildings might also be considered, depending upon an analysis of the Tax Increment needed and desired. 10. Hall - 489-1391 - Reverend Hall represents a synod of Christian churches who propose to put their office headquarters at the northwest corner of Garden and Lexington Avenue. He brought in a site plan indicating a one-story tipped roof structure of residential character, 8� feet by 64 feet, equaling 5,376 square feet. The plan pl:oposes adequate parking, though Reverend Hall felt it wuuld be more than needed. We suggested they put it in anyway, as some meetings will be held in their conference room, and future occupancy might change. We noted that sixteen and one half feet of right-of-way would be needed to be dedicated for Lexington Avenue. We had previously discussed this praposal with Reverend Hall and some of his colleagues, suggesting that they should discuss this with the neighbors before proceeding too much further. Reverend Hall indicated he has met with all the neighbors in the immediate area, and has gotten a good reaction. This property is shown as single-family on the Land Use Plar., and is zoned R-1. We noted that it has not been the policy to extend additional commercial development on Lexington Avenue. The development of this property as � proposed, with a B-1 zone, will accomplish a transition to the single-family area to the north and west quite � • • • Page 6 - effectively It is single-famil perha s Y home to be p unreasonable to ex.pect a new some form of inedium- built on this corner lot propo,�ed, density housing might have be� though however A one-story office structure of en , built with residential charac this nature, effectiv� solution. ter, could be an cc: City Council Department Heads :i N� � NI 2 g� 3 NI 4� 5 p� 6`� 7�� 8� 9�� 10 � I I �' 12 =1 13 p� 14 � 15 � 16 �I 17 �i 18 � 19 al 20 '� ' � ��`�'�' �' '� r � � , � C �K. ' J L,�A, 0 i 3120 n �w � c_ co. eo. 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Carlisle Ave. Centennial Dr. Center St. Chandler St. Chats��orth Churchill St. Civic Center Dr. Clarmar Ave. Cleveland Ave. Cohansey Blvd. Cohansey St. Colonial Dr. Commerce St. Cope Ave. County Road B County Road 62 County Road C County Road C2 County Road D Crescent Lane Christy Circle Dale Court Dale St. Dellwood Ave. Dellwood St. Dionne Ave. Dionne St. H:4 C-D:13 F,K:13 E:16 I,K:16 I:20 A,B,F,H:10 B,E,J:7 K-L:16 A-C,F,J:9 6:6 A:6 A,B,J:9 G:19 K:12 A,E,I:15 J:18 E,F,J:7 B:11 I:10,11,16 G:19 H:18 A:5,6,9,10,13-15 A:2 A:1 F:7,8,9,10,12-14,18-19 F:19 F:7,8 I:10-14,19,2Q H:19,20 H:19 J:17 C:7,9,10,18 K:20 K:17 A,B,F,G,J-L:13 A,C,D,F:13 D:12 A:9,10 A-F,I,J:4;G:4-6 H-J:18 E-G:18 G:10 N:9,10 G:15,16 H:1-20 F:5-2Q D:1-20 B:1-7,9-12,12-14,19,20 A:1-7,12-16 I:18 E:11 K:16 C-L:16 C,I-! :11 E-H:I1 L:19 • L:12,13 Draper Ave. Draper Drive Dunlap St. Eldridge Ave. Eimer St. Eustis St. Evelyn St. Evergreen Ct. Fairview Ave. Fairways Lane Farrington Ave. Farrington CT. Farrington St. Farrington Circle Fernwood Ave. Fernwood St. Fisk St. Fry St. Fulham St. Galtier Circle Galtier St. Garden Ave. Giesman St. Glenhill Road Glenwood Ave. Gluek Lane Gluek Lane N & S Grandview Ave. Griggs St. Grotto St. Haddington Road Hamline Ave. Hand Ave. Heinel Dr. Heinel Circle Herschel Ave. Herschel St. Highcrest Road Hilltop Ave. Holton St. Huron Ave. Huron St. Hythe St. Iona Circle Iona Lane Ione St. Irene Circle Irene Court Irene St. Josephine Rd. Judith Ave. Karyl Place Kent St. Lake St. Lakeview Ave. Larpenteur Ave. Laurie Road Lexi�n Ave. Eind�e. J:3,4,1I,13 J:6 E,F,L:12 I:5,7,8,10-12,16,18 J:19,20 E,H:1 A:5 J:5 A-J:6 I:2 I:19 A:19 B-D,N,L:I9 F:19 I-L:11 C-E,H:11 E:15 E-F,I:8 G-J : 2 F:20 B-D,F,L:19 K:11,12 I-J:19 A:10 K:17,18 H:6 H:6 G:13-16,18-20 C,0:12 E-H:15 H:8 A-L:10 G,I:19 A-0:15-17 C-16 E,H:7 J:7 A,B,G,H:1 K-17 F:10 K:11 C-D:11 J:4 C:18 C:S,C,D:16-20 L:11 C:18 F:18 E,F,N,I:18 6:11,12 C:10-13,18 I:12 B,D,J,L.:17 J:2 C,D:23 1;11-20 H:3,8,12 A-L:12 I,L:12 Little aay Rd. A:17,18 Long la0ce Rd. A-F:3 Loren Rd . � � � Lovell l�ve. G:1�-16,18 Lydia Ave. A,8:1,6-14 Lydia Court A:1 Lydia Or. A-6:14 Mackubin St. C D,J,L:17 Manson St. B:1 Maple Lane 6:1,7,8,20 Naple Lane Ct. 6:19 Marion Rd. H:3 Marion St. 6-I,L:20 Matilda Circle F:b9 Matilda St. B-D,F,G:19 McCarron 81dd. M. J:18-20 McCarron Blvd. S. K,L:18-20 t4tCarrnns St. B-O,H,K:11 Widland Grove Rd. H:4 l�idland Hills Rd. J:3 Midlothian Rd. H-I:8 Mid Oaks Lane & Rd. J;8 hlildred Dr. A,B:6 Millw�ood Ave. 6:7-8,10,13-15 Millwood St. B:l,i9 Milton St. A,H,:14 Minresota .1;re. �:18-20 Moundsviex Ave. J:17 Fbunt Ridge Rd. A-0:5 Nancy Place G,H:14 Northview St. 6:20 Oakcrest Ave. E:5-8,11,12,15,18 Oakcrest Lane E:19 Old Highway 8 A-B:1-2 Orchard Lane C:14 Owasso Blvd. S A-C:26-20 Owasso 61vd. W A-6:15-16 Oxford St. A,C-F,H,J,K:13 Parker Ave. I:13-25 Partridge Rd. 8:3-4 Pascal St. A-F,N-J:10 Patton Rd. A-B:1 Pineview �t. K:16 Primrose Curve 0:10 Prior Ave. 6-G,I-J:5 Prior Circle A:5 Ftambler Court D:18 Rambler Rd. 0:10 Rayrtbnd Ave. A-6:4 Rice St. A-L:20 Ridgewuod La. N S S J:8 Ridgewood Rd. A:9 Roma Ave. L:11-13,16,19 Rose Place E:1,2,7-12,1�,16,18 Rose Vista Ct. L�I1 Rosedale Dr. J:3 Roselawn Ave. J:2-14,17 Rosewood La. N b 5 4 Ruggles St. �-l3 Russell Ct. Kyan Ave. Sandhurst Drive Sandy Hook Dr. Sext�nt Ave. Shady� Beach 5harondale Ave. Sheldon St. Sherren St. Shorewood Cv. b La. 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Victoria St. Virginia Ave. Virginia Circle Nagener Place Nagr�er St. Nalnut St. West Perimeter Dr_ uestern Ave. Westaood Circle Newers Road Wheaton Ave. Wheeler Rve. liheel er St. Wilder St. i�illiam St. Nillow Circle Wi 11 orr Lane woodbridge Circle 6toodbridge Court 1�loodbri dge St . f�oodhill D�-ive Woodlynn Drive Floadruff Ave. J:5-7,9-13,17 H:20-12,14,15,17,19 A:17 F:9,10,12,15,16,I8 K:20 I:5 B,D,F:10 H:11-15 A:7 J:5-7,10-14,I6,17 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:5,6,10-12,15,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:18 A-B:4; G-H:1-4 &-H:1-20 G-2-4 H:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,6,L:16 6,H:2 H:2 B:7-8 A:1 H:9 iC:16 K:12 D:10 J:6 F:1-3 C:7,10,11,18;C-D:15-16 6:18 F:9-14,16-ZO s:l-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k;20 K:�7-19 E-H:1 G:6 B-K:18 J:4 E:20 D:15-16 E,F:7 A,B,I,J:7 A,I:S I,J:19 , E:11 E:11 G:20 L:20 A-G.I:20 D:11-14,17- A:9-10,13,�,Z0 K:18 ,� � � ' • -A � � � March 25, 1985 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren Planning Office Hours - March 20, 1985 1. Smith - 770-3711 - Royal Smith, realtor, was in with Yen Pham, who runs a Vietnamese restaurant at 873 Broadway in Minneapolis. He is considering purchasing the .7 acre site with a single-family residence on it at the souchwest corner of Trunk Highway 88 and County Road D. He proposes to live in the house for three or �our years, and then convert it to a restaurant. The land is zoned B-2, so a restaurant would be permitted. we reviewed restaurant and B-2 development requirements, cautioning him that the site might not be of ad�quate size to provide enough parking. t+�e noted also that remodeling a home to a zestaurant can be difficult and sometimes not the best long-range solution. We suggested he have the site and buildinq r�xamined by a professional to ascertain its potentiai Eor his purpose. Z. L�e -�i84-9000 - Larry Lee, Ae v, Gustafson, and Jef� Iisakka, a designer from Larry Lee"s staff, was back wi�h revised plans for the developm�nt of the northeast corner of Highway 36 and Lexington �lvenue. P1ost of the land i.s zon�d R-3a, with a strip south of Grandvi�w zon�d single-family. The �ntire site is indicat�d as high d�nsity multi-family resid�ntial in tne Compreh�nsiv� Plan. Several we�ks ago, we mentioned this site ta a Daycare Cent�r op�rator as a possibl� location. They ar� s�rious�.y consiciering this �roposal, placing th� Da�car� C�nter at the nor�hw�st �orn�r ot rh� sit�. w� sugg�sted the d�v�lopm�nt be Mandled �� an overall Plann�d Unit D�v�].opm�nt, with us�s and �pecific site design propos�d for th� ov�rall site. �h� resid�ntial units would be upper-inconne l�vcl senior citizen's housinq, with an atrium in th� c�nt�r of e$ch af thc two structur�s, with '�8 units �ach. Parking is und�r the buildi.ngs at a ratio of 1.5 to 1�r�latively high for s�nior citizen's housing�. W� suggesced they vi�it with the n�ighbors about their conc�pt plans prior ta submitting applications to th� City. No acc�ss to the sit� would b� utiliz�d off Grandview, and if th� strip of Qpen land is handled well, it cQul� mak� �n �ppropriar� transition, similar �� he succ�ssful solution or� the east side o� th� Hamline HousE dev�lopmEnt across from the Hamline Shopping Center. Page 2 3. Thienes - 884-1661 - Mike Thienes lives at 284 South McCarrons Boulevard, and owns two lots side-by-side, one of which is occupied by his home. On the second lot, he has in the past, let his parents park their recreational vehicle during portions of the swnmer. Last year, an anonymous complaint was received by the City, and he was informed that he could not park the vehicle on the vacant lot. The ordinance allows such a vehicle in the rear yard, or not more than 72 hours in the front driveway. We explained to hi.m the regulations regarding the use of a vacant lot for parking any vehicle, inasmuch as that is an accessory use only if ther� is a princigal use (in this case, a house) occupying the property. On another subject, N1r. Thien�s offered a constructive suggestion regardinq parking on the north sid� or McCarrons Boulevard. He not�s that many people wal}� and ride bicycles along the south shore af th� l�ke (north s.�de of th� road) and that if parking wcre r�stricted to the south side, �his �night improve safety conditions, t�e said we would pass this suggestion on to th� staff. Ther� are two homes on the � north sid� o� th� road dbetw�en zhc road and the lakei who might b� affect�d. �• ��ari - 633-�820 -.7im and C�ath}� Saa�i haue re�ently curchasc�d a�0-�oot lot t6� feQ� s�n Ha�nline) on iake .To�ephine, and eh�y prc�pose co sul�s+tantially �c�madc�� nd �mprove �he hous�. They �ropc�se � �02 ��oc acfdltion on �he t�ont, ine�udin� � n�w double �ttach�d $arag�. Th� ��i��.inq doubl� gar�ge up ne�r �he roadway woulr� b� torn down. '�h� arddition �ould accommadat� a 22 x 20 c�arage, a c3inot��, and a new �ncranc� �nc�.o�ur�. �he d�siqns appQared vQry a�tr�c��, and st�ould Qnh�nce �h� appQaranco of a� �om�what una�cractivQ h�ouscr. �n cMo n�rth sid� o€ t�ao h@use, which Na� a r�th�� a�wk�a�d ��p�aring fr�nt �l�va�ion, chQy propose �o enharaco i� b� add�ng a ba�co�ga �t �hc� secor�d l�ve�, and r�arran�c� �hQ windows co inelu�d� � pair of sliciing doors to tho ba�cony. This addi��on, bc��.n� a structur�, wili �rojacc c�os�r to �h� iake, and wi11 requi�� e var�anc�e to ch� �har�line Zoning Ordinance. Such a uaxianc� wi11 be nQ��ssary to �nlarge the hous� at all, inasmuch as the �acisting structur� is 46 fQ�t rrom th� �horeline, The hom� is high abQv� th� wat�r lovel, nowev�r� and generally in lin�: with the hom�s on �ither sid�, c�t� �uggeste� �ra �ppr�priat� appi�ca�a,a� ror r�v�ew und�r tn� Shor�lin� zon�ng Ordinanc�. � Page 3 � - - 638-7410 - Deets Middelstadt, Director of 5. Middelstadt Properties for NCR Comten, was in to express his concern regarding parking for the restaurants recently opened (Stuart Anderson's Cattle Company and Fuddrucker's) on the Fine property east of Snelling Avenue. They are concerned that future parkinq may attempt to use their ramp, which they do not des�re due to some problems they have already had with vandalism. We suggested that on nights and weekends they close the northerly-most entrance to the ramp, and place an appropriate sign dissuading parkers. It is obvious that the new r�staurants are �njoying considerable success, which is sometimes more evident when new restaurants first open. we discuss�d the possibilities, if che problem persi�ts when the site development is complete, o� interim leasing of highway propex�y across th� road for parking purposes. The constr�ction of the overpass at Coun�y Road C and Snelling is not in the current 20-year plan for MnDOT. Thus, MnDOT ms� be am�nable to such in�erim use of the land. Ne is going to call Bil1 Fine regarding chis suggestlon. t�r. �idd�l�tadt note� that it ap�ears muc� of che �arking in the rca� of the two r�stau�an�� app@ars to �� accupi�d by emplay��s. �� ch�ck�d both p�rkinq lots at �2;4� on t�tarch x0, and found 35 spac�s vaca�t, most o� whiGh ��re at �he r��r of thc restaurant at eh�t time. we no�@d � �hat pa�kin� �cr�ss th� st�Qe� Cprinc�pa�ly for �mployees� ��a� uei�fzQd as e�olut�on �or Ol' �iexico on �axingto� Av�nue. �. �ansan - 9a0-623� - D�r�y� N�ns�n is an architect p�epa��ng �oma �emo��g �lan� f4� Greg Am�r, who li�es ac 21�4 �oueh Ros�wood► �ane en � 90 x li� ��o� lac. ��ajor addit�o� i� o�op��d fo� che r�a� o� tho ho��e, and �� ei�hc �ooc �y ni�e �oat s�oop �s ��o�osQd pra�e�ti�� nco th� �ront y��d. �h�g wou1� b� �l�owed �y ��dinancQ, excQp� �h�� h� propa��s �o con$t�uce a tro��is �ic� pare�a� ��lid �a�� en��osura� a:ound the �ar��h�a� �� c�� coop. B�ing ��truc�ure abo�a i��c ��aor ��v�l, wQ �u��esea� �his ��uld ��u��a a �ina� va��anca. �c was in�arme� �f �h� p�o��du��, �nd w��l �ik�l� bQ apply�n� tor th� �a��a�ce in th� near tucU��. �, �unw�li - 4��-6i0� - TQm �unw��i, �rchirec�, an� �lik� e lsk�, Qf �h� North �tar Ba�k �c �he southeas� �o�n�r o� �ugqlos and �exinqcon �ve�ue, �er� �n �o d��cuss a �ropos�d expansion of the bank. The building would �� n�ar��d b� 3,�00 s�uare f�ec� ��ing added co th� �xi�tin9 i��00 s�u�ra �oo� building, Th� build�n� is a�ircular str�ctur�, and ��e �ddition wQuld m€r��u complete th� circle towa�d �he � Page 4 � building will be remodeled as part ot this addition. As a part of this building expansion, they hope to expand the parking capability. They are considering purchasing the house next to the bank on the east, where they now have parking at the rear of this house, We noted our concern, and that of the neigh�ors, relating to the further intrusion into the residential neighborhood. One option might be extending the parking to the east, behind the adjacent house, rather than removinq quite a good house north of their existing parking area. This solution would minimize impact on the neighborhood, and would provide approximate�y the same amount of parking expansion. 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This being senior citizen's nousing, they propose one and one half parking spaces per unit. The northerly portion of the land (contiguous to Sandhurst) is zoned single-family, though all the property is indicated as high density multi-family on the Comprehensive Plan. They have purchased the two houses at the corner of Highway 36 and Snelling, though they have not proposed a specific development for this site. We reviewed the site plan, which we suggested be modified �o exclude the service roads which go around the back of the building. This could particularly be a problem for the unit on the north side of the property where the back of the building will be across Sandhurst from the single-fam��y re�idences. we suggested that they discuss this plan with th� neighbors, and adjust the plan so as to maximize the distance betwe�n che multi-family structures and the single-family hames. All access would be off a�rivate street which wou�� conriec� the cul-de-sac on Ruggles Stre�t (to th� �ast) to Lexington Avenue. The units are proposed to b� rent�l units, simila�ly desi��d zo the atrium housing rec�nely construct�d i� �n�rgy Park in St. Pau�, �ft�r m��ting wi�h neighbors, and making design adjus�ments, w� sugge�t�d �e meet again to r�vi�w proceduros an� r�vise d��aiis of the �lan. � �. Uebel� - 933-7773 - Bob Uebe�� n� ��tike Nord�trom ��m ths Burg�r �ing Corporation wer� in to d�s�uss �h� rev�s�d si�e plans for a�ropos�d Burger �inq r�staUrant �t tha southwes� corner of Couney Raad C and Clev�l�nd. As you ��1 rocall, �his site has a small o�� g�s s�atio� and ��q s��ql�-��y r�sid�nc�s, The �� is dif�icult because �f pow�r li�� asement� ��l�h cr�ss � s��n��xcan� �orcion �� ha ��. �h�ir sit� plan, ho�aever, a�pear� �o �� w�� da�t�d co e�o sir�, wi�h ad��uac� p�rking being �rovid�d �� thQ�r �avin� ac��ir�d an easem�nc �o �Ark on � porcio� �f the r�i��d iand to �he south. �� bQ�ng � l�nq, �a�r�� i��. �h� drivew�� on the north s�de io� the tl��-�� windo� will be i�ss �han �� oet f�4m �hQ r��ht-Qf-wa�, re�u�rin� a variance. The �uilding wili be 23 �Q�t on cha no�th sid�� r�quiring a 7�oot uari�nce. TMe bou�ev�r� on Cou�ey �� C �t cY�is po�nc, how�v�r, �s veiy wide �nd i� wou�� ap��ar th�t �uch � vari�nc� w��l be work�ble, duo to �h� i�flu�ncc o� th� eas�ment �nd th� sh�ll�w d�pth �� th� site• A varianc� wili also �e re�uir�d ta allow �he p�r�ing en eha zailroad righ�-oF-way, fo� wh�ch they i»u� ob�a��etl a�Q foot �as�m�nt. � Page 3 , � A new Burger King estabiishment would appear to be a substanti�l improvement for this site, which may not be well adapt�d to an office structure or similar use. The land is zoned B-4, and would require rezoning to B-3, similar to that which was done for the veterinary clinic to the s��u�h across th� tracks. �. Goff - 488-2�b6 - Pat Goff came in with a revised plan for the use of t�e R-Z 2on�d land westerly of th� mobiie home court. Nis plan ��dicated a public cul-d@�sac on th� e�st s�d� of th� property �xt�nded norther�y o�f of Rose Piace. The p��n wauld accommod�t� s�x d�pl�x lots, or � tota� of �welv� uni�s. The problem w�th th�s proposal is �h�t it ��uld re�uir� the �onstruct�on of Roae Place, at least ��om c�rnw�od to aunl$p. t�e a�Q a�are tha� tha nQ�g�bor� �ppose cMi$ �o�structxon. t�7r� G�Ef had p��o�s�y beouqht �n a das��n �roposing eigh� dup�ex u�� th � ��va�� t�Q��, �h�ch �ou�� 4� have ��qu��ed �h� ca�s��uc��c� af �ose �laeQ. �Q �� o� �� op��on th�� Q ��b�ac �c�� oposal tthou�h �e�Qr uni�s� �s m��Q �c��o��l b��s� o� �hQ ��ic ��1�t�Q� �lrc�dy �� lac� on �� c�� ha �� o �c� &�1��Q��f., ��r fl� �h� �� a� p��. ��e�d�� hQ � ��Q�o�Q�tl �ul�� r��+�� . ��a��s� D�c��► �a��at�� hQ ��o�c�d�rQ� �a�� ► ��c�s�� ui�� o��c��c��ea��, �� hc Ai��is4� ��! ��9iV��ii �y�Fx� 4c"Y1'A� IkNM'ia'4d• o. ��a s ��-��Q = h�� d ��c� ��c�� a �c �� `r ��c� ��, �� r� �� +�e�� .�� h�� r�� E�� i� �c�c��t �a a�,�� t�. 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Her lot is about 516 feet deep, B, and is contiguous on the north end sac off Sherren called Milton Street. � County Road B, and is :r husband about a year north off County Road (the rear) to a cul-de- This cul-de-sac is not fully platted. Portions of it appear to be owned by Cliff Lund, who has a forty-seven foot strip of land contiguous to the Woessner property. Lund also owns the parcel on the other side (west side) of the Woessner property. Barry O'Meara owns another parcel (not extending to T3) which does not have direct access to the ca.l-de-sac. It is rather confused as to the status of the c:ul-de-sac inasmuch as the cul-de-sac app�ars as a parcel owned by Lund, but does include a portion of the WortionrofptheelandLuto claims that his father never sold any p anyone. It appears that these deep lots (approximately 516 feet) in the vicinity of the Woessner piece will have additional parcels to the west which could be developed by either the completion of the cul-dsouthwesterly�to�open�uptthe rear of extending it westerly or some of these deep lots. I suggested that he get together with Barry 0'Meara and some of his neighbors to the west to ascertain their interest in this procedure. Dave Janisch explained the City's process for requesting a feasibility study for public road and utilities construction, a process that could be used in this case if the predominent majority of the people in the area want it to happen. Mr. Woessner proposes ultimately to build a new, smaller house for his mother on the rear of this property, and to then sell the larger house, which he suggests is too lzrge for his mother's occupancy as a widow. 2. Wilson 1-252-6262 Steve Wilson works for the Brutger Company and, as you may recall, did the development at the southeast corncr o� Victoria and Trunk Highway 13 with Bob Pope as his architect. Mr. Wilson was in with Bob Pope, Bill Pose (an architect with Bob), and Bob Bierscheid, to review a preliminary plan for the use of the Reiling property north of City Hall. i Planning Office Hours December 23, 1987 Page 2 The plan indicated, in a very general way, thirty-two town- � houses, one hundred forty apartment units, and twenty-seven single family lots, totalinr one hundred ninety-nine units. In addition, there was a small scale neighborhood shopping cent�r of about seven acres. The land is now zoned shopping center, and a strip one hundred fifty feet deep along the west side is zoned R-2. � � I noted firstly that the dedication for Lexington Avenue would be 16-1/2 feet, 99 feet being the right-of-way standard for this portion of the County road system. I suggested the plan eliminate a diagonal roadway which allowed for a triangular expansion of the VFW Club to the west. I suggested this expansion occur to the north, thus saving the frontage on Woodhill. A�ark of 2.86 acres was proposed, consisting primaLily of a strip 100 feet in width, to the north and west of the shopping center sit�. T suggested that this park would be inappropriate for public use, and merely constitutes a buffer zone between the shopping center and the housing units (as drawn). I suggested that if a park is to be provided in this development, a concept similar to the "Edinborough" private and public building and grounds as recently done in Edina might be more appropriate. I noted too that the density might be greater than one hundred ninety-nine, emphasizing the Council's interest in housing development versus buainess development in areas where housing is an appropriate land use. In the event that some form of imaginative park is not contemplated, I suggested it may be appropriate to get money in lieu of land in this case. I notecl that the shapping center site may be too large, and that the anchor should probably be a convenience and gas out- let, and that it perhaps ought to be condensed further south at the corner of Wood'.iill and Lexington Avenue. A street thiough the property was proposed, which was contiguous to the rear lot line of the single family homes fronting on Griggs at two points. I sugg�sted that much of this street could be eliminated, because it is not necessary. I noted, too, that a public roadway access to County Road C-2 is viable, and that the arrangement of tile twenty-seven �ingle family, lots could be done in a manner so as to �limi- nate many of the double frontage lots currently in the plan. I noted, too, that apartment structurzs higher than three stories may be feasibl�, and that the City is less concerned with the density numbers �han with an imaginative, attractive plan. � � Planning Office Hours December 23, 1987 Page 3 . I encouraged them to continue their efforts inasmuch as the mix of land use proposed will benefit the residential area surrounding the site, realizing that the shopping center zone applied to the land over twenty years ago was merely done as a "holding pattern." IIave Janisch noted that some ponding area will lil{ely be requirecl, or the system can be desi.gned to move the ponding further north, if it is made certain that that area wi11 be adec�uate. They da not have a deal with George Reiling yet, but they are talking seriously. To achieve this deveJ_opment, some assistance via tax incre- mer�t may lae necessary. Craig Waldron reviewed the Council's principles and criteria for such assistance, and potential fAnancing methods. There is apparently an area of bad soil on the site where a pond was filled by Mr. Reiling some years ago. They are going to explore old air photos to determine o�here this problem may be, and get soil tests to ascertain .its impact. They are going to consider these suggestions, and continue to work with Mr. Reiling in the preparation of further i�evised site plans. 3. LeTendre, 633-6312 rGeorge LeTendre represents Roseville with Gordy Beseth, �loyd LeCuyer Bruce Ryden's Fire Marshal's staff� lZon� � Properties, and was in Jr., and a member from rns we ' cus d. Firstly, there is a matter of a dance studio which operates in a building owned and managed by Roseville Properties at 1995 County Road B-2. This land is zoned I-1, and a dance studio is a special use in that district. We discussed their applying for such a Special Use Permit, which would be a method of resolving and solving the dance studio question. The City location, however, is complicated by the fact that it is contiguous to another use run by Midland Scientific, who apparenti.y is mixing and processing dangerous chemicals. The second problem is then the use operat�d by Midland Scientific, which Floyd LeCuyer, Jr. noted to be dangerous, in his opinion. The zoning ordinance allows for chemical processing only in i:he I-2 District (the land is zoned I-1), but is not al?owed if it "involves noxious odors or dangers from fire or explosive." Thus, if the Fire Marshal believes that the processes going on here fit that description, he may notify the occupants in writing, and begin the proCess of removal. I suggested, however, that the first step should be one c�f determining what changes, if any, should be made to the building or the process to make it safe. I suggested the safety of the people in the area is the principal question. � Planning Office Hours December 23, 1987 • If it can handling it therefore, writing so what cannot � • be made f r om a that they that the be done) Page 4 safe, then we can look at a method of zoning perspective. I suggested, prepare rer,ommendations and concerns in occupant knows what has to be done (or to resolve the problem. George LeTendre and the others present at the meeting agreed that this would be an appropriate path toward a solution. We agreed that getting angry with one another would not solve anything, but that we should proceed on a fair and concerned basis with notific�:.tions and actions in writing, so that we do not wind up in court. If there are procedural or struc- tural changes that should be made immediately while we work this out, then Mr. LeT�:ndre should be so notified in writing i.f there is an imminent danger of someone getting hurt. The FirE D�partment representatives voiced their concerns (as well as that of G�rdy Beseth), inasmuch as in other office warehouse buildings in the City there ar� processes moved in without the staff's knowledge. Some of these have problems similar to the one in question. I suggested that it would be appropriate to remind ourselves that a licensing ordinance and/or a system of Certifcates of Occupancy for ongoing changes of use is a vehicle for solving this problem. Some cities, like the City of St. Louis Park, license all users, which gives them a handle on what is going on within the buildings in the city. That technique, or a modification of it, may be appropriate to consider as a means of being informed, and controlling problem uses. 4. Peterson, 720-6723 Gene Peterson and his son Randy were in with Bill Sievers and Brent ICrause, both of Construction 70, to review the possible redevelopment of the Sinclair Station at the northeast corner of County Road B and Snelling. They propose to put in a Jiffy Lube and a C. R. Muffler Shop. They had prepared a preliminary site plan, which demonstrated quite amp�y that there is not enough room on ttiis site to accommodate these uses. I noted that the parking requirements would be four spacea, plus three spaces per bay, and in this plan there were a total of eight bays producing a total parking need of twer�ty- eight cars. Sixteen were shown on the site, but the parking was not set back the proper fifteen f�et from the public right-of-way. We reviewed with Mr. Peterson the right-of-way dedication need on this site, which is nine and one-half feet on County Road B, and other ordinance requirements. We agreed that perhaps a single use could be done on the site, although that, too, is questionable because of the very small nature of the site and the horrific traffic problems related to this property. �� Planning Office Hours December 23, �987 Page 5 . We reviewed with them the possibility of acquiring other properties in the area, and proposing development that uaould allow for the rerouting of the service road and the redevelopment of the land in a more useful way. They have been talking to the car wash folks, who have named a price, but they want to put the car wash back on the property. • � I suggested that they continue to work with the landowners in the area in an attempt to resolve this problem in a way better than simply putting a Jiffy Lube on the old Sinclair site. Once that is built, then our chances of solving this problem will be deferred for many years in the future. They are going to attempt to work something out and get back to us. Dave Janisch is getting them a copy of the service road proposal prepared by the Engineering staff some time ago. 5. Brannon, 574-0192 Dorothy Brannon and her husband Rodney were in to discuss the expansion of the parking area for their office and car wash site at 1315 West Larpenteur. We reviewed the plan, noting some details which should be added prYor to its submission. I expressed our concern about the fact that the southerly strip they are buying from Mr. Coverdale stops twenty feet short of the westerly property line. This leaves a strip of land about twenty feet by eighty-five feet, which will be an illogical part of the lot to thP north which is occupied by the townhouse structur�. This townhouse structure has more land than necessary for density purposes, and thus the southerly portion of this land can be used for another purpose (that is to say it would not affect the density of existinq development). 6. Spalla, 332-2561 Dennis Spalla, from Fine Associates, was in with Jerry Fine and Tom Lohman, who is a realtor representing a bank proposing to be located in Fine's Planned Unit Development at the northeast cornEr of County Road C and Snelling. A revised plan was slzown, indicating the location and the structure, size, and parking arrang�ment. It is very similar to the P.U.D. as proposed and approved b� the City. The question is one of handling the parking. I explained the City's policy on parking regarding compact and joint parking with principal nighttime and daytime uses. Theii problem is that in the purchase �grecm�nt, joint parking easements are proposed, as well as the possibility of joint use for other properties on the sit�. This could impact on the bank's parking, if there is a parking reduction for other users which might overflow their facilities. � Planning Office Hours December 23, 1987 _, � Page 6 I suggested that the agreement might note that such joint use � building shall not occur within two hundrnk havin�ftohapprove property, and that any mention of the ba g any further development simply be drop�ed from the agreement. I noted that in this district, site plan approval is required for each development and that thus the bank, as contiguous owners of the land, would be notified. � � I noted how this is a more controlled method than most zoning districts in the metropolitan area, and thus can be relied upan. Mx. Lohman noted his buyers' (the bank) concern regarding adequacy of their parking. We agreed that we all share that concern, and that none of us would purposely do sc�mething to impair that objective. Mr. Lohman suggested that he may recommend that the bank owners discuss this with the staff at a future meeting. 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Q Petrol�um, 88J.-4483 Randy Kinny represents Q Petroleum, and was in to discuss their signage for their new convenience store and gas station at the southwest corner of D and Long Lake Road. Their sign company had proposed to put thE gas prices and their namc logo on the face of the canopy. We had p�eviously informeci them that this was not allowed. We agreed, then, that the prices of two of their produets could be on th� pylon, and tha�t there would be no signs on the canopies whatever. We also agre�d to allow a 3 x 3 "Express Tell�r" sign along thc brick work at the far w�st end of the center f acing toward the north, where it wi11 be in lin� with the rest of thc s�.gnage for tihe shops i.n �he Center. Craig Waldron and I went over to +�he Cen�e�- te vi�w the sign conditions a� the site. 2. Johnson, 631-8700 T�a Johnson represer�ts Butler r+io�tqage Company� They pzaFose to �lev�lop the ald ThermoaKing site and the Idea� Securi�� site contiguous �a the southe�st. �iE hac£ a pr�liminary glan indicating th� red�u�lopment of the land ra include r�tail stQr�s and a cax c,rash . I sugq�st�d th� car ��rasi�, iF reta�i�ed in the propnsal, should b� set back much farkh�i fiom th� stre�t, in l.ine with �he oth�r struc�tures on thc w�s� sis�e o£ Fairvi��w. i alsa nated the possible us� of this site far an auto ma11 typ�: �ac�lity. We �liseuss�d d�vclopm�nt standards �f the industri,a7, and busitiess zones, notir�g the imporranc� of grot�ecking th� vista t� the wes� fc�� th� �ingl� family hom�s which sti11 remain across �he street on �he east s�d� of Fairview. Ted Jahn$on� noted that th��r tri�d to buy th� Pacific Door propeity as wcll, bu� tha�. they arc not interested in selling. Th�y w.�11 b� bac}c ko us lat�r, with further d�v�lopm�nt plans. 3. P9urlowski, 633-�944 Tom Lynch, architec�� was in with Mark Murlowski and Jim Trapp to discuss th� r�dev�lapment of Jim Trapp's 2.5 acre s.ite naw oecupied by the C1canCo operation. They talked of removing parts of the building, but retaining the C1eanCo building, and leasing spac� to the garbage truck distributor, which �he City had previously turn�d down. � � ;. �.. , �aS, � �.a�., v' '*:ya Planning Office ours Page 2 December 16, 1987 I expressed great concern that that opera�ion was still there, and suggested that any n�w plans developed not include that use. I suggest�d �that rather than tear down parts of those buildings and continue with minor changes, and in view of the past probl�ms on this sit�, that the best solution would be to tear down all the buildings and start over with a neca, more significant development. Th�y noted an interEst on the part of Budgeti Trucic Renta�, which if done prop�rly on tihe sit�, similar to what Iiertz Pinski did down on County Road C, could be a much irnproved use at this problem sit�. Jim Trapp notes that he did not pur�hase thc add�.tiona�. NSF land to the west which, if ,�i�ked up�, wpul� prc�duce a total site of 4.3 acres. I expressed surprise �hat he had lost this �rn��rty, and not�d th� importance af putting it ��g��h�r ta get t�� b�st developm�nt an the sitc. Mark [►lurlowski nated th�t 8elair 6uilders mi�pht h� in��r�sted in occupying a q�ortion c�� .he Sitc. Q. T�ammel C�caw, 942�2i4? Cr�ig Avery, a d�visiat��1 �aartrter wi�f� Trammel Crow, wa�s ir� with �im Os�c�son, � n��r �t�ff �ember �rho wa� �'orm�rly witfi Tarad�m Developm�n� C�m�any� ko discus� paten�ial ��u�.ti-f�mil� resid�rati�l devclapm�n� in Rosevil�.�, we re�ai�ewed ac��in thc sit�s tt�at ��r� talked �bou+� sev��al wcc�:s ac�o, and ��rerr� iy�to g�;�a�cr cie�ail wi�h resp�c� to the potential dra �c�m� c�f �he ms�ce s,ic�n�.fican� si�es, T empha�izcd the pot�nti�l and d��i�:��aility �� h� rc�d�ve��g_ m��t �Qr L�siden�i�1 p�ar�ao�cs in t�he �oun�� toad C Study hr�a. Th�y n�tcd th�ir vet�� s�ror�c� inter�s� in develo�it�g in Roseville. Thc�► �Le ��c�ina tc� uisit �ri�h �om� af th� land- owncr� af prop�r�� we h��re sugc�cste�l is appropriate fox mul��.-�'axnily ci�velapment, and ��ril.l be ��1ki.ng ta I�ir�ealn �or�pan�.es ar�d tl�� Sh�lard �roup re�arciit�g �c�n�L ibuting to d�velopm�n� in tiie cas�erly h�1� oE tM� C�our►ty Road C Stud�r �►rea. w� �ncouragcd tt7ese �o��;� r_� i��r in Ro�e�. ilZe, 3nd ar� hop��'u1 �hat �h�ir fu�:th�r conv�rsations wirk� landowners and othcr d�vclopers will result in theii d�velcapinc� �.n th,e City. Tramm�l Ciow is the largest a�velopment comp�ny in �nerica. Th�y havc dane signi�icar�t b�sa.n�ss c�evclopment in �he Twin Cities, piimarily in th� southwest�zl� suburbs. w� are hopeful that they will d�cid� ultimat�ly to do busin�ss dev�lopment in RosEvil.l� as well. � � , � - � � I � 2 � 3 � 4 � 5 '�q 6 { 7 � 8 � 9 � i0 a �� ?� :� `� �s � �� 15 ; 16 � '/ � ��..�..,,� ��-� '��9 .� �.�,, ` � �� - �� r '• �' , ,zt." 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His propertX was platted into thre� lots, and ultimately appraved for a series of threc dupl�x structures s�ith a garage attached and a separate garag� on t}te easkerly sieie of the site. The units are up, and sales are proc�eding� Th�y inquir�d as to methods and procedures for dividing the three lots irto ane lot p�r unit. I suggcst�d utilizing the condominium _aw which do�s not require a plat. Later discus- sions with Char].es Honci��11 confirmed that the division of the existing lots into separat� parcels i=or dividing a duplex c�n be accomplished as �r� admi,nistrative procedure. Thus, t�r. Hackworthy has �h� option of proc�eding with either rn�thod withot.tt undu� deYay. 2. Gottlieb, 831-2�26 �ichar�l �ottli�b is th� proprietor of �he Brick Oven Beanery, which w�s initially planned as a"Luther's" Restaurant. Luthcr'S was plann�d ariginally with 176 seats. The Beanery was a-��d�esigriec� for �AO s�ats� Th�y propose now to util ize p��ions �f thc very Zar�e kitch�ra to expand the seating to 1�0, which is fourt�e�n more �han thc original approved plan. �hey also pro�ase �.o remo�e �.he drive-ti�rough £acility and u�.ilize this space for �dditi.canal Qarki.ng. It would appear khat tetz �dditi�onal spaces c�n t�e provided on the north and ea�st �id� o� th� bui�.ciinq, with a minimum of change in the paiki�g configuxation. At an� space for 2.5 seats, the additional t€n spac�s wou�.d compensate for th� additional. seating cap�city. I� was suggested, thea:eforc, that they prepare their plans for eacpansian for thc building inspectors and planning revi�w and, that 11i1CI�I: �Y�e circumstances, it would not appear nec�ssary tir� c�o thiough an am�nded P.U.D. Mr. Gottli�b furthcr �oted far information that their peak hours of operakion appear to be 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p,m. on Fridays and Saturci�ys. He not�d that the MGM LIquo� Store is vacan� at the� moment. I confirmed that a restaurant �would not be allowed in that space becaus� of the added parking requir�ment. � • � � ice Hours Planning Off December 9, 1987 Page 2 3. Target, 370-5841 Forrest Russell was in withSDe�h�s proposed� expansionm and Target store, to discus remodeling of thP Roseville Target store. The Roseville store (originally 'built for the Jubilee Discount system, but never occupied) was the first Target store established in 1962, and consisted of 78,750 square feet. The old Knowlan's Super Market (or:i�i��ally Applebaum's} has about 25,225 s8u250 feet plus an addition they propose of approximately square feet. Thus, the total square footage wil�. approximate 112,225. Forrest noted that in other areas of the country they u.�� five spaces per thousand for Target stores (for parkin.�), but that in the Twin Cities theydOsbettersheresthan�othe�uparts That's because Target stores of the country. Six spaces times the total square footage equals 672 spaces. They have 700 spaces on the site. They propose to reface the building (most of it is concrete block) with a new stucco finish, except for the existing east and north sides which are painted, concrete block. I suggested that now would be the time to upgrade this building inasmuch as the City abhors buildings with a"front" and a "back". I also suggested that their proposal to place a new compactor on the east side of the building, contiguous to State Farm Road, would be better oriented away from this public right- of-way, and added to thecornereoflthedsitef �Cofftlthet�new located at the southeast addition where Knowla:�'s had their service area. I noted that the addition will require a variance on the east side where the continuation of the existing setback results in a ten foot side yard. Mr. Janisch noted that an addi- tional nine and one-half Feet of right-of-way is required along County Road B, based on the County standards of ninety- nine foot right-o�-way of this portion of County Road B. They agreed to apply for the variance and dedicate the right- of -way . Subsequent to this meeting, Forrest Russell called to inform us that his bosses have agreed to refinish the entire building, �.nd that the compactor would be mov�d so as to not access directly off State Farm Road on the east side of the structure. They will proceed to process the application with the objective of appearing before the Planning Commission at its February meeting. Page 3 .. . 'ce Hours Planning Offi December �: , 19$7 , 4. Lamb, 347-9360 were in to Fred Lamb and John Beal from the Towle Company discuss a proposed commero�ner ofVOldpHighwayn8 and County property at the southwest � This site has approximately Road C-2 (2884 Old Highway 8)• lan unless the .68 acres, and would be diff icult to prestedythat commercial property north is added to it. I Suggro riate, inasmuch as development on the site may not be app p th� traffic has moved from Old Highway 8 to the new location to the east. � � I informed him of the results of fo eaaingaselstaaion� and development of this property at which time the convenience store about a year ago, ested the neighbors in the area were strongly opposed. I sugg consideration of the two sites for multi-family housing pur- poses. They were going to explore this option further. 5. Bartlett, 333-8210 Jim Bartlett has purchased e Southl in Minneapolisildand formerly at 1208 Second Avenu This building is about the occupied by Keenan and Cleary• being 20' x 25'. He is seek- size of a small double garage, which ing permission to move this building to the Ruan site, he now owns, and park it there until June 1'andThe suggested continues to be utilized for truck leasing, th�.t the building could be parked betw�en a couple of semis, and hardly be noticeable. I suggested that the staff could not approve this storage proposal but that upon the receipt of a letter, lermitld b� referred to the City Council for a temporary P would appear that if it were put in the .right place, it would not be a signif�cant problem. What is more important is that Bartlett continue to successfully pursue the redevelopment of this site. You will recall at the siteast week announcing th� interest of a hotel chain • o � « g : . � o �I s! � I �� 2� 3� 4� 5;-� 6`� 7-� 8� 9-� 10 � II '� 12 =� 13 -t 14 � 15 � 1�6 � � � ' xeo Q 3934 � B= ig4. - C^ /, �, D ��w E �` F :�s G � H 2160 i �� J � K �.� � � � 2 � � 3 • � 4 � �OSEYILlE MINNESOTA I�L�NNINi� OFFICE HOURS � � •�• � DAH�GREN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN i7 al �s � i 9 �� 20 =1 � IC �I� i l �� 12 $� 13 e� 14 :I 15 zl 16 � 17 sl 18 � 19 �I 20 _I Q noao B L!!4 C :�� D :� E � F � G :no H .� ' e • . �„ • December 10, 1987 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, DECEMBER 2, 1987 1. Bartlett, 333-8210 Jim Bartlett was in with Don Buck, from Anchor Development Company, and W. R. Franke, III, a developer from Indiana, who works with the Ramada Inn hotel chain. They are proposing to build a Ramada Inn on the Ruan site. Mr. Bartlett notes that representatives of the Ramada Company were here and liked the County C location. As you know, we have been working with Mr. Bartlett for some time, encour- aging him to do something more productive on the site than a car care service center. Craig Waldron also discussed with him potentials and limita- � tions of tax increment and C.D.B.G. assistance. In this case, the existing Ruan building is obviously dilapidated, so there may be some potential for programs other than direct tax increment. We reviewed the application requirements and timing for con- sideration of the hot�l development, emphasizing the need for a quality product at the entrance to the Long Lake gateway to the affice district to the south. 2. Hemmingson, 704-597-5366 Cheryl Hemmingson and her husband purchased a house at 1705 Marion back in 1967, aft�r which an apartment was built to the north, in about 1971. The property has seventy-five feet �f frontage on Marion, and a depth of three hundred twenty- six feet, of which a significant portion of the westerly rear yard area is in slope. The lot area is 23,450 square feet, and if apartments were to develop, it would accommodate approximately nine units. The land appears on the Comprehen- sive Plan as high d�nsity multi-family, being zocated directly contiguous to the apartments on the north and the church on the south. The assessor's market value is $107,500, and they have listed the pro��erty for $114,900. In one year and eight months, the most th�y could get was an offer for $85,000. The house is � l�,rge, and may be conducive to use as a halfway house (per- missible under State law in the R-1 District), or as possible conversion to an office. . • ` • � � Planning Office Hours December 2, 1987 Page 2 This house is obviously totally isolated, and because of its size (and apparent value based on size) will be difficult to move as a normal, single family residence. It would appear that a careful conversion to an office might be appropriate, utilizing a limited business degree such as B-1. I noted the importance of planning for parking if such a change is contemplated. Mrs. Hemmingson lives in North Carolina with her husband, and thus selling the land in their absence is difficult. She currently has two of her sons living on the pro �rt but chooses to have them move to North Carolina as well. y� I suggested she work with a realtor tor the potential sale and development nroposal, subject to the review of the City (if a change is contemplated for office uses or multi-family development). 3. Backes, 944-7100 Ron Backes was in with Dennis Carlson trom Brooks Superettes, Ray Roemmick from Suburban Lighting, and Art Miller from the Unical Corporation. They are proposing a si.ngle pylon sign at the shopping center, twenty-three feet high, with a sign area of 38.42 square feet. The pylon would note the brand of gasoline available at the convenience store (which would be "76"�. Although the shopping center is allowed three pylon signs, this center will be limited to one. The pylon will be located about forty feet back from the right-of-way of Rice St�reet, and well back from the north property line directly opposite the conv�nience store. The Council permit for this development (Special Use Permit for the service station� specified the landscaping, engineering, and signage to be sul�ject to staff approval. Additional signs will be added to the building as tenants lease the space. 4. Jungbauer, 633-2197 George, Agnes, and Ann Jungbauer (bro�her and sisters) live at 1939 west Transit, and have a three car garage and driveway fronting on Transit, with a driveway width of aFproxiriately thirty-two and one-half fc:et. This street is proposed to be included in a street improvement program next summer, and the maximum driveway width would be twenty-two feet (as it crosses the property line). Charlie Honchell and Dave Janisch reviewed the site from their drawings, and noted that the garage is set back only twenty-three f�et, instead of the normal thirty feet. Under thse conditions, Mr. Honchell suggested that a variance of driv�way width of approximately s�ven fe�t would be a priate, so as to be able to PPro- garage. get cars in and out of the � •• � Planning Office Hours December 2, 1987 • � �J Page 3 They felt that was an appropriate solution, and propose to apply for this increase in width through th� variance proce- dure. They will, however, withhold that application until a final decision has been made by th� Council as to whether or not the project will be done in 1987. 5. Mara, 780-5756 Chris Mara, of Legran Home Builders, proposes to build a new house for George Wintz on the south shore of Lake Josephine. This will be a 5,502 square foot house (without the garage) with a full basement, including a basketball court. This house will run approximately $500,000 for the house alone. The address is 1245 Josephine Road. we reviewed the site plan, and found that the proposed development conforms with the shoreline zoning regulations. Mr. Mara was advised as to how to apply for shAreline development approval under the shoreline ordinance. 6. Matthews, 482-8518 Craig Matthews is interested in purchasing the 5.87 acres of land zoned R-3A owned by the Yorkton Corporation, which is owned by Larry Lee. He would like to build an upscale market rate apartment project, which he notes would be similar to the eighty-eight units that h� built at Interstate 6�4 and MGKnight Road called the Lakewood I3ills Apartments. That project had eiqhty-eight units with ninety-nine garage spaces plus outdoor parking. we rev�ewed the oreiinance requirements relating to use ot the land for apartment �urpos�s, noting that the number of units that were approved as a gart of Mr. Lee'� Alanned Unit Development contemplated Senior Citiz�n's units. Thus, l�ss parking was requir�d, and th� d�nsii:y �xceeded the sevente�n units per acre norm�lly applicable to th� R-3A Qistrict. Mr. Matthews not�d that he likes the sit�, and will att�mpt to make arrangements for purchase from Mr. Lee. Dave Jansich had seen th� Lakewood Hills Apartments, and informed us �hat th�y wcr� very attrac�ive. 7. Dolly, 920-8808 Tom Dolly is a realtor who is tr.ying to redev�lop the north- east corner of Snelling and County Road B, The service station is now vacant, but an additional nine and one-half feet �f �rc�perty will be requireci to be dedicated wh�n �hi� land is redeveloped. Thc size of this site, plus its inherent traffic problems, mak� it difficul� te� r�develop the land in a meaning€ul way. Traffic conditions and the exis- tence of the three developments at this �orner (all of which are substandard) suggest the relocation of the service road as has been planned by th� City for some time. � � Planning Office Hours December 2, 1987 Page 4 • So as to review the possible solutions, a meeting was held involving the proposed developer, representatives of Target, the office buildinq to the north, Ramsey County, MN/DOT, and City staff. A possible use is the Auto Max, represented by Wayne Moen at the meeting. � C� Charlie Honchell and Dave Janisch reviewed the previously prepared City plan for rerouting the service road. They explained reasons why this was not accomplished due to costs, and deleterious impact on contiguous users. MN/DOT noted that the service road could be reverted to the City, and could be vacated if a replacement road were devised. It was agreed that an overall plan would be pre- pared by the developer based on maps to be furnis%ed by MN/DOT. Phil Keen from MN/DOT had these drawings with him, and agreed to send additional copies to the developer and to the City. A drawinq will then be prepared indicating the possibilites and impact on the affected properties. Ed Bierman, in charge of development for Targ�t, was there, along with Forrest Russell, their site planner who has work�d with the� Roseville �ite on previous occasions. They note th�ir intenk to come to the City soon with redevelopment plans, and are interested in th� servic� raad concept. They particularly would lik� to see a dra�ing which illustrated a solution, and resul�ant ch�ng�s that would affect th�m and others. Craig waldron 3iscussed the possibiliti�s foi use of tax increment Eunds if a r�dev�lopm�nt w�r� to b� achi�ved that solv�d th� traffic probl�m. �t was not�d th�t th� car wash wauld lik�ly hav� to be r�mav�d, though th� o�fic� building could possibly stay. 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'� � �• {�!'�. ..�.�:� il � '� { � rie3 ,_-��- 2 --t� -S r C._.�, � '. .�L •.--. c;,,._ " i� M Y . f�a a.�1... �i - • T.•-• � . ^�!' ...�..+J�. W ._aw ...�.� � a xM .. �a?�_..� �.u_,sss r � �� " T��.; � „�.r, - ! �r �at' �e��."� � Mr 6 �; .'r � t. .�� . � � � �.. ; � � $� � � :�� ; ..� � . �. �, � lMq;�..,.e v,� .+.aeae. •._ . ��k:�r� S�+t x �r.�a.erz � �_ � — t.; +� itso .� �' '' ' � ; , R£Vt5E0 OATE ' � .�."".« � �=`��: ` �, � ��j � , ,r,, gj -.- ..- S� � �.� � � � =.T.tt _! �°L t.�. �� .��_.._...:_� - � 9_sa.j � . «,: � r � . �ti r6� �� Yi� � 1 1._. --� , �.fi a �1 �� :'..:`.. .,' ; � 10 � I ! � _ i�.._._�....,_13 � _.1�.. � __ t5 � !6 .�y 17 �9 16 ' � 19 � 20 � ` , ,� December 9, 1987 • TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard �ahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, NOVEMBER 25, 1987 i. Dunwel�-483-6701 Tom Dunwell and ,7erry Kaufhold were in to review ttte revised progosal for the use o� tiiz� L�xinc�ton SchooY sit�. They proposed the bulk of th� si�� ko the GSA far the new Ros�vil�.e Post Offi�ce, who in turn have s�:l.ect�d �his lo�ati.on amQng t'hose of f��-�d in response t4 th�ir adv�ztise� ment L•or Pok�ntial sites. �'hey propo�� 151,961 squar�: ��et � 3. 49 �cres ) pf the sit� for � 37, 900 sc�uare �c�ot bui�ldi.rtg. Th�r� will bc �ar}�ing spac� �ar on�c t�ur�dred thi�+t�en c�rs, with sixty-fiv� p�rking s�aces f�r e��loyees. Foxty-fiv� .Te�p scaled dcl3.very txucks �,►ould, b� park�d nn �rie �ite insid� th� loading gar�.ge. Th� preliminary si�e plan praQa�sed ls�cate� thi� post c�ffice facility sut��tantially wi��r� th� o�d sc�toc�1 s�►�, wi�h th� excepti�ar� of tk�c aldcr ��r+tie�� t tt�e imen�dia�� c�zra��c �� County Rc�ad B a�nd �nellipzg. �his i�uil�di�ng wa�l.cl � retain�dl, witi� �,600 �sq�arc t��t� ;,rir� �or��-fou� gatki�g s�a�es. �� rema��nd�� of txle �i�e, �o�x��irag o� 165, Op� �qua�� E�e� ( 3.78 acres ) cou�d �+� r�sservcd fs�r a p�rk, sub�j��t tc� th� sa].e of a pA�:�ion �f it k.a �th� Cit� t�h�t �ar�� ia�c�u��.v� �� tl�e ��n per�en� 3and �]c�n�tic�nl. Tt�i� �rea, �c�or�iinc� �e �t. D�unw�ll, co�l�.i I�e diu.�c�c�� in�t� �I�v�n i�t� whi�t� they �l�im are 4�Ui ��l �� 000 C r��ai.l w�.th�� cos� �. A s��o��id apti�n inc�.►�dc� thc �i��elo�men� of a�r�c� ��o�y au�tion E��cili�� o� tP�e Ros� ��Il.�ry �p�:r��iran, wit1� � ca�� huncl�ed t+�+era�y-tive cax p�,r��.ng ��cil.i�4f. '�iii� �Q�al� rcr�d�ac� 4,Me ��.:� o� t71e p�rk aYea, ret�ic�inc� 1�0 f�et r�t frc�nt�c�� an Lexingkon r��renue a� pa�� f �i7c �ar�C �c��. Tt�is l�and �r�a c�ould �e��ir� tMe ball �ield �n� �h� si��ing �r��. This paxking �r��, wizicYz ��ul� 3.nc��c3e �►�rking Eo�- the origin��. school �r� �h� corr�cr r :��uld ia� ��n��i E3-� � �nd ce��.cl be us�sl fr�� B-�i rec�:eati�na�l, p$ikia�c� t��sum�r�g some p�rms►ner�fi jain� parking agre�ment. T�ey �re goinc� tca prLpaie rnoxc prccise �aTar�s wi�t� a spe��i� c�roaosal au�lining l�nd u�e, �ar�k areas ar�d �oses! Qra�osed �oninq, k�uilc�itte� d�v�lc��cnent, l�r�dsc��, aY�d e��a3.��g�, 2. Pa�pc 642-9200 BoU Po�ae was in ta discuss the handlin� af the �xteri�r br-ick � marcrial on ti�e propased Mo�ei 6 redevelopment. The P7.anning GQmmission had r�comm�nded a 1-1/4 inch thick ma�tic �pplicd brick. Tt1� Council's actian didn't specify � thickness, but iequired that there b� "brick on a�l four sides" in a�coz-- danc� ��ritl� ,p13ns dated 5/07/87. � ' • Plannin� Office Hours November 25, 19�7 � P ��ge 2 Bob Pope brought in samples of brick vene�r which are one- • half inch thick, which is th� standard in the industry. The colors s�elected are very similanif�cant imp�ovementtovercth� Hall, and w.ill consti�ute a sic� �pp�oved the oziginally proposed stucco. Wn, th�refore, brick sel�ction a� pes: th� Counc�.l's instructions. 3. Krank, 339-4200 Ron E:rank brought in a mo�e precise site plan �g the ch�ngc�s propos�d at the �'airdale Shoppin9 Cent�:r at t�� You��Will c,orner of Trunk ii�.ghwaY 36 and �'ai�vi�w Av�nue. recall th�ir proposal th�i� to �►dd 863 squ�xe �eet to the cast�r].� most stor� which is bcl�9��t��tore� flThisawauldsbe field`� paint stor� ta a k�.er 1 p cione Uy adding abQut ��r� �e�t ta th� fr�nt�age, �xt�ndirrg it souther'�.y. �k�is w�.11 i��u�� in a l�s� �f �ou� Pa�kir�g spacc��. Th�r� �r�e, tlowee�er, twa �unr��°ec� s�v�nty-f�ur s�aces on '�h� sit�, wh�c��as tY�G j�3, 521 sguare f�� of rc�ail �� iv� ��c�� t�ou��nd require� two h�nci��d eic�h�c€�n �pace�. Thus, th�y �rc c�bvia��sl� �ti�� a��l a��r the mi.nimum ��ri�in� ra�tios �es�raire:d. Und�t �� cr�n�i��o��n��d�Ur��it�D�v��o�n��t� �ox nc�c��s�ry to �S�:o��ss � �cuia s�� mir��r �l��nc�e � � � . Tr�.m &36-�76G �.r� ,�rrd a�l� aii�� Tr�� c�"� �n �ritil a�rau� o� t��cs4� nei�lri�o�� +�� i�eus� �t�e c��u�l�ag�n�nt �re��o�a�. ju�+��'c��r��d�i� ,�r►d �nc�rsc:��i�t� �� the r��x �hw�� u�dr�c�� a� Y ' 'vi��tos�i� �vc�na��. '�t�i�� i�� ts�� p��t� �h�e ��em�tQd to q�t �:h�� c��rn�r� c�E r�� lc�� rant�.r�� n �'ic��ri� ta �e�l. �:t�� 1��1� o� k9�ci� l�a�� ca tlh�t a► �e� �t�� aultl �� rl�u�i��d, �n� ��.n��c ��rn�.i� 1��.� �oulc� ta� �l��rtc�o ��m� �t �l�c�s� �r��.F;s w�n�:er3 �c� cl�a i� �nd �ca�� r1�d��' �, �� t��t �z:��'��1 d�� isa�n d��F�e�l . Tt��y r�,��r �cop�� e�a k�� i�� in��a t�mil�,� 1�� car� �h�� p��e�l ��id �s�i�.d +� ifa�� u�i� ��h��as� �r� �hr��f��t ��r �h��ve fihc�� aca+�� fi��r� :��Ici !S� ��, �� fih� ua��, at c��ca�t 1� 2�Q ��;� �e�� f iauil��r�g p�x ��t. bu�.l��t.s a�+�ul+� t� ta�e�r��t� ��e��, i�t�. , �� '��i �]aw ��ic��a�t F�o�� . ��:L` �K�l.��n�t�cj �1�� i�� itt3 ��.�r� �:� �C��itri�ari,�� Ct�1c� �iv� unit�, �1�c n�i�.�t�2�car� t��:��ed, ��r►Q cli��avar�rac� �t�� `� �nd c�ti�e�� 1��iric� e��"�iv��.� n��tr�►]:. '�1�� l�n��.t� i� ��t�h c�a ttz�� i� w�u�.d r�a+� � it �t1� ��. , Oc�O ��+��►Y+� t�� rti+�. �u�c�cs��ci �l��t �:t�� 's.�.� d� 'ci�� ur�� k�e Led�zccr� �t+� p��rl��p� �w4 �up�exe�. m�k3�a�c� it ��c�s�.dez��k�ly e��ier �Q �c�ow�unc��l�� a� �i�c� s�,�c:, a�►d re�uci.t�e� �h�.��ive �c�le �� tti� st�t�c�u�:a I��h all f iv� u�ii�� in �n� buL�.�ln� ). � c � � � a � Planning Offic� Hours November 25, 1987 I suggested to4 r�zoning would developed on tY�e site. Page 3 that, perhaps in these circumstances, a not be appropriate, and that it should be basis of the R-1 density that exists at the Y�lso �not�d the possibility of providing an easement on their access driv�way, �xtending north from County Road B ta th� property own��s to the east, so that should they want to dev�lop the rear of tt�eir lot in the future, a single roadway c�ulci be utili�ed (rather than %ave two roadways side by sid�). The Tram"s �r� going to r�consider their proposal and prepare alt�r�ate id�as. i�Qrson� ��sent at the nti�e�in4 we�� as follows: Kim Tr�m tHarlir► T�am J�an cc�apf�r+t J��►ce Rlle�n �eo�gu � � F�cilir�g �a� R��t�a�c�san �erbc3� t t�, eenna� t ��crv� B�k� ,��f ��atea 3i�2 Cl�voland Aven�t� 3 2 4 S Neaa Br ic�h tc�n F�oad 963 Wcas�Yti�ll drivQ 899 t��s� C�u�►ty Rosd 8 2171 �te�t t�t �il�t��i� 216� t�orth d,i�toria ��.89 P�+�rth 'vic+�caria p15 wr�st ��rxn�y R��c� � ��9 ��dhu�st E3�i�e+� 636-9000 636-1760 �48�-4968 489-515� A89�2'i32 48�-�59'�� 489-5i�� 488-2862 4��-52�� . _______ . • � � � � i � 2 � 3 � 4 � s � 6 � 7 �� e � 9 �� io �, N� �. �� Na � �s � �� W ra� �i �e �� i� � zo � . 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N �. �t - - - ,yw1 �'�.,. � � � �.:.� '.. r�... + _ ..�,t � .:� . .. . ��. .�F rs . ��+ E" � � � �, , � � ,.- � � � g,,, � ��' ^��i � _ - L ROSEYILE.E _:� � � s � �� r drrs *.x Y ..�r.r.. _ �;�-� � � . �' _ � � � _ _�'� � .�w �so MINNESOTA 1tEYtAD alr3'1E . " � yrrr'«. _�l _ .. � i _ . '�•"�" ��' ,iI- �i i� , ^. � �. e � ��. ,,,,,� ,I� ._ r .,_' ,-- . -,. r�.. _�-'�.*1 i:., � �....#;. �' S�, �_&�' �;� i,� . i , tl �'I L;_ � � �e� F.! ��. �s �; �:' +, «( '{, ; a 1 PLANNlNG OFFICE HdUR� :.. `_ _�:�•- -' Na .� �� ; Ns.._� �_�s :', e� � i� �:,� �6� � p� � 20 �; �. _ ..,� ,� __ 1..� �� "� 6 �... �;:. � `'t; � ... ., � ._ � = . -- r �w�� t�tltt �.��. --- • � �•�ra a DAHLGREtd SHARDLOW i UBAH � :. • � : November 25, 1987 TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, NOVEMBER 18, 1987 1. Acciani, 824-2651 Toby Acciani is looking for store in the Roseville area. locations for such a store suggested that for that type Rosedale would likely be most Mar Mall, inasmuch as theater facility to enhance the yogurt a location for a TCBY Yogurt He was in to discuss possible in the City of Roseville. I of facility, a location in workable. I also �uggested Har facilities are often a helpful business. He notes that freestanding locations are not normally done, although that might be a possibility in areas where the weather is mild year around. He seeks a franchise for Roseville from th� TCBY Company, which he claims is the best brand for yogurt in operation today. 2. Storms, 631-1111 Douglas Storms is a manager at Paper Calmenson and Company, who was in to discuss the handling of their entrance gates off County Road B, on the north side of their property. H� inquired as to the possibility of vacating County Road B west of Trunk Highway 280. Charlie Honchell discussed this with Mr. Storms, suggesting that he has been in favor of such a vacation for some time, but that the former manager, Frank Colletti, did not wish to pursu� it in the past. This section of Coun�y Road B leads nowhere, having been terminated (without a cul-de-sac) when 35W was constructed. Mr. Honchell noted that in the relatively near futur�, this portion of County Road B is scheduled for improvement. At such tim� there would be assessments applicable to the Paper Calmenson property. Mr. Honchell suggested tYiat Mr. Storms submit a letter to the City requesting vacation�of the property. This would have the advantage to the City of put.ting the land back on the tax rolls, and ielieving the City of the charge of maintaining this portion of County Road B. Mr. Storms also noted that about one-third of the buildings are leased, including tenants from Harmon Glass Company, two small fabricators, a pai.nting company, some storage �or West- inghouse, and storage for a lumber company. . ' Planning Office Hours November 18, 1987 � Pa e 2 g • 3. Tschid.a, 636-3650 Tom '�schida and Terry Johnson were in from District 621 (Mounds View) to disc,:uss the possibility of the placement of a fifty foot antenna on their central administration fac� lities located at 2959 North Hamline, i�i the Cifiy of Roseville. They suggested placing it in the fifteen foot stxip of land betwE;en the two structures nea.r the south end of the property. �C suggested that iF the antenna is placed ninety :Eeet north of the south line of the p.roperty, between these two buildizzgs, that it will be substantially hidden from eye level view from contiguous propert.i.es, and would be appropriate. We discussed this with the Building Inspector, who agreed this would be appropriate. The ordinance states that aerials and antE;nna are exempt from the maximum building height in any zoning district unless the Building Inspector feels that it is goinq to have an adverse effect on nearby properties. This is a freestanding structure with a twenty-one inch base, and thus represents a minimal mass. There is a fifteen foot whip antenna on top of the fifty foot structure. Located n�ear the center of the properties, surrounded by buildings, it would appear that this antenna will not be an aesthetic ��roblem. 4. Buckholder, 371-7262 • Jim Buckholder, Rnbert R. Roberts, a!ld Thomas R. Lohmann, of Investor's Savings Bank, were in to discuss a possible loca- tion for a bank in Roseville. Their interest centered on a location at the northeast corner of County Road B an�. Snelling. The old Sinclair statian is available, but is obviously too small to locate a bank along with drive-throu��h facilities. We discussed at some length the horrific traffic proble►as at this intersection, some of which relate to the fact that the service road enters directly east of the intersection. Dave Janisch discussed the previ.ous studies and attempts on the part of the City to divert the servic� road aasterly (using a usual "button hook" solution). We reviewed the ultimate solution, which would be to acquire the three properties at this ldcation, the Sinclair statione the office building, and the car wash, and to t�hen relocate the service road similar to what the City hac� previously proposed. This would produce a site of adequate size for th� bank at a key location. The improved traffic conditions would make it a workable land use at this in��rsection. We discussed ways in which this could be accomplished, including their getting purchas� agreements on the land at • some reasonable cost. If estimates of their proposed develapment value were available, an analysis could then be made as tc ways in which the City might be able to partici- pate in rights-of-way acquisition, road building, etc, They were going to consider this possibility. . � Planning Office Hours November 18, 1987 • C� • Page 3 They were also interested in the northeast corner of County Road C and Snelling. We noted �the many assets of this location, including the potential for new grawth along County Road C to 35W. They are going to review further possibil+_ties of both locations and get back to us later. 5. Bauer, 483-0518 Wally Bauer, a permit for Ray be 99 feet from of 11 and 3 2 required. builder, was in to discuss a shc�reline zoning and Ann Brueggemeier. This new structure will the high water line, with side yard setbacks feet. The front yard setback is 30 feet as All of the trees on tYie site will be retained except those where the building is located. Thus, the proposal conforms with all requirements of the shoreline zoning ordinance, and could be processed directly to the Council for a permit. 6. Gruenwald, 489-4249 Rosemary Gruenwald is the business manager for the Roseville Family Physician's, located at 1901 Lexington Avenue. They propose to add an exterior sign at that site. I suggested they might consider a ground sign rather than a pylon, noting that it might be more prestigious and, perhaps, better seen from Lexington Avenue if the setback is reduce�3 from the normally 30 foot required setback. I noted that the City may consider a change in the zoning ardinance, allowing such ground signs to be loca�.ed closer than the currently required 30 feet, if they are less than half of the a�lowed sign area. I sugges�ed she may wish t� wait to see if that ordinance is adopted at some paint in th� near future, or she might apply for permission for such a sYgn at an earlier date. In any event, it would appear that the use of such a sign at this location wauld enhan�e the structur� in that area of Lexington Avenue versus a 25 foot, 100 square foot, pylon sign. • � I �� 2� 3� 4� 5 �� a � e � c � D :.b E �ss c�s G � H :,.a � � J „:o K �.� � � ;� 2�� 3�� 4 � RosEvi«E M�NNESOTA PLAt��IING O�FICE HOURS 1�/tb/�n DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 6 UBAN � � s =i 7 =1 8 � � � �a ; v� � i2 �: �� = 04 � i5 ; �s � �7 � is = es � zo =1 ru � N _M _"""" _ M L. i ' � * �` �L�..._, J; r: ; ' '�. - _ . - � / i ��r�— £ d+t- i` �; t .� � � . - - w . -r� .r � �i �� y� $ � i L^ �' '' i��ru�-. _J � � L 1 l �l . �� . t' SI "� anenri� � i' ' ?; �� .�; ..r—:J��+�TT�.,Y�.�+.r��.�'.w� _J', �".+�ew.+�r wKyw+ri. !"� nr1 !� L__. J� L� �-��Y�f�Y � �' R�L"L�� Z. __ ��'�� J_� i a � �l t 1 ,'•n I `��'— — ='��.� ��i��i '; =�6 1� �a � ��;i �� =d �{ ii �i �! �I � 10 � II � 12 ��' 13 i� 14 � 15 ?� 16 � l7 $I 18 � 19 � 20 � � — D _ � = E �f � t � �� G = u� — H = t�w I � � J [ f� � � � � ,.00 T L L 1[�O � • • T�... _ • Novemb�r 17, 1987 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 1987 1. Krank, 339-4200 Ron Krarik, the architect, was in with Jim Everson who works for Ed Paster, owner of the new shopping center on the west side of Lexington, north of First Minnesota Federal. A1- though Ron Krank did not d�sign the shopping center, he had b�en requested by Ed Paster to look into the problem of access relating particularly to the south end of the center anchored by walgreen Drug. The problem here is that the driv�way to th� south portion of the shopping center is not opposite Dionne 5treet but further sauth, opposite a m�dian, which prevents left tu�ns for north- bound traffic. Thus, such traffic must gp past tihe center to the intersection wi�h Rama, which is opposite the joint driveway to the north �nd of the center and the property to th� north of that. Traffic bound for the druq store must then traverse the fuli �.ength of the center to the Walgr�en � s�te. Charlie Honche�.l noted that he favored develop�.r� the access to thc southern part of the cent�r opposit� Dio►�ne, bu�t that a traffic consultant h�red by th� Pasters and the County came up with th� se�:��ion plac.ing the driveway access further to thc sou�Y�. I suc�geset�d th�� rather than attempt to add a third driveway that it migY�t be appropri.ate �Q move th� exis�ing access (at the south edge of the prop�rty) to the aiignment with D3.onne Str�et, This w�uld mean an adjustment in tt�e parking layout so as to provide reasonablc movement for trucks around thc south end of the building. t�iessrs. Krank and Evcrson ar� going tc� �xplore th�se changes with the County. Charli� gavc them tt�c name o� the Count� traffi� engine�r to .:ontact. They are awar� now that the City has no objection to such a change. 2. Krankt 339-4200 whil� th�rc for his first appointment, we alsa discussed some very prel��inaLy planning work Ron Krank is doi.ng for Neil Boderman, CPa, owncr of the Fairdale Shopping Cen��r which is managed by the Lincoln Gc�rngani�G, Hiishfield's is l�aving �hat cent�i and moving to th� new Lincoln CEnter so �s �o get more spac�. HirshfiEld"s originally had 6,137 square feet, � and tlie Lincoln Companies now has a new anehor t�nant for Fairdale who needs 863 square fect i�ore. Thus, the questian is one of how can that center be expanded to this limited dEgree. � � Planning Office Hours November 10, 1987 Page 2 �xpansion to the east was reviewed, but the building at that point is contiguous to a storm sewer easement containing a 21 inch sewer pipe. It appears, however, that the building could be expanded to the south by moving the front thirteen feet forward. It appeared that this minor change would reduce the parking capacity slightly, but would not affect the overall design or function of the cent�r. I suggest�d that this could be accomplished without r�processing �he P.U.D. un3er which th� center was originally built. The center seems to have more than adequate parking, there usually being considerable numb�r of spaces available ir� th� south end of the site. 3. Gil ��e Lamadrid, 644-0992 Arthur and Janette GiI de Lamadrid propose to move a house from 1465 North Cleveland to a vacant lot at 1789 Skillman. This is the fourth lot £rom the northeast corn�r of Fairview and Skillman, This lot has 8a.25 fect of frontage and an average depth of about 122 feet. The i�omes in this immediate nciqhborhood are two--story homes, and the ho�tse they propose �o rr�ove is qui�e an attxactive two-story hous� with an �xterior brick fireplacc. They propos� ta add a r��o car gar��e to the hou�c. I revi�wed the �rdinance lequirements rciating to the mav�- � ment of houses into the City. �le has :iad the Buildinq Insp�ctor laok at ehc house already. t�i� also showed u� �ictures of ttie homc wh�ch looks �s though tl�c 4�om� ddill bC no pr�oblcrn ir� ter�n� a�E compatibil�.ty� with the neighborho�d. � I suggested the �4eparation of a sirc plan �nc3 his pracuring thc Eifty percent �►pproval vg the naarby ��ndown��s as prescribed in thc ordinancc. 4. 0orc�, 633-a150 Paul Borr�, BusiY�ess t�1anager oE kMe Rosevillc Nre� ScY�ool Distriet, was ic1 with �e�a Daut, who is th�e t�l�inten�nce t�anaqer �Q� ttz� School D.i�t�: ict . T'D�e� ar� �rc��osing to add handicapped acc�ss fa�ili�ies �� ome c�� tl�e schools, Qf wtzich the Roseville Ar�a �igt� School wi11 1�e a�e o� �h� Eirst. Ttie� Q�opose two pcaint� �f d.:ees� w,ith c�mps--on�: a+t h�h� aud�_toL-'tum �en�raYlce ��nd o«e �t �he link ta th� +��mporary build�ngs soutt� o� the auditorium �ntran�e. '�hcy pzoposc to add a to�al of �et� parking spaces ncar thc auditorium entrance in �; sp��cc �� ` ti l�c�' . `�hey propa�� 'to pravide two parking spaces in the exis�ing lc�t neax ti�e acccss �o the tempora�y link. A tr�tal of twelve spacc:s are requir�d based on �heii sp�cifiCd ratio of arte handicapp�d spac� per fifty parking spaces. I not�d, in r�sponse to their �nquiry, tl�at the parking �paces would have t�o be asphalted with poured in plac� con- cr�tc curb. / � Plan ' • ning Office Hours November 10, 1987 • � � • Page 3 Dave Janisch discussed the drainage implications ments. It was agreed that if and require- specifications were submitted thatpared propE� drawings and for construction of the parkin S Permits could be issued g pace as proposed. 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V.F.W., 983-5313 Mor�y Rheaume, Post Comir�ander of th� V.F.W.� was in to review a p�rking conc�rn they hav� with r�sp�ct to the use of th� ball field to th� rya��h of their sit� tnorth of the Civic Center ). when ball games are conciuGterl, parkir�g Eor th� gam�s occurs on th� voF.W. pa�king lot, reducing th� avail- �►bility for club purp�oses. Th�y plan to have th�ir op�n house foi �hair new r�s�aur�nt �expa�nsion and ar�, th�rc�fore, cancerned about this parking capacity. Thcy hav� di�cus�ed with �ob Bie�rsch�cic3 thc poss�bili��► o� isuilcling additianal �a�king to t�e we�t af th�ir lot, wh�re � �h+�y �pp�ar to own ar� �dds.+tioe��l fa� �y-Eive E@at, fif�c��n �ect o� whi�h is s�+� bsck fream �t1� Eu�ture str�e� �pl�nned for tt�is �c�a, and thiL ty �eet oE a+hich is h�lf c�f the � ight-of- w�y. Thu� �+itM fo�tg►-�i�Q �e�t ��ailablc� i� would app�ar practical to u�i11�� p�roxima�e�y �o�t� f�et of tha� w;�dtlh to d�eve�op ��ingle �ow ca� pa�kir�g� �lon� �h� wes� �ld�� Th� p��kgng is inte�im c�s�e �n�d, of eour�a� �� i� �he b�� lol� �n�smuc� �s ttze '�.F`.wo cioQs not oarr� �ine l�;nd on wh��h thc� b�ll fi�ld �� l�c€d. TF�us� �ny �dd�tign�� rk�ng on �h�� ba�� elc3 i� ,�n �r��ecim u�e. � ��gge�t�d that �hey wo�� c�u+� ti�c c3et�i1� with i�t�. ��at- sch�id+ �nd +the�n �ubmit � le!�� o tt�e �a�anc�1, �t�r�n�i�� eo the ��1�n��er, rQques�in� �ar�nf��io�� tc� �a�d +�he �a�ki�c� ,ar�,�. F� le��r �E�om t�1r. �iQrsci��id mi�ht ��rall ��compAn� tR�i� reqo�es�, Th� i�r►d is v�n�d R-1, ��ac p��:ir�� Qr a► pu��ic �Qcreet�onal us� is peimit��d ie� �� R-� �on�. L r l"IQQnO oG��eL t��yne Moen �ncl ��r� Doll�r t 920-��06 )�ere in t� talk �uout th� possiblo red�velopm�r►t o� the �,incl.�ir sit4 at the northoast corr��i of Courat�� Rc�ad B�nd St�el�ing. Th�� h�d taiked to tt�e ow�er cf �h� af f ice bui lding to the r��rtti af the �incl�ir sit� �Ta�dd 1'caung, A�to�r�eya , anc� tt��y are �or�te�n�lating a � pos�ibl� redevelopment af �h� two sites, �+ith �ne se�n�rio k��ping the of�i�e builciing. �h�y no�a tha+� �h� affic� building is occupied by a dentist, a M$ir stylist, an accoun��nt, a gallery and frames bu�iness, and a sp�ce for �om� Nc�rthw�st�rn ��11. ec�uipment. . o Planning Office Hours • November 4, 1987 � Page 2 OWe reviewed the attempts in the past to reroute the servic� road traffic to the private street access to B, just east of the car wash. Dave Janisch showed them the lay�ut the Engineering staff had done �everal years ago, and noted the history of the attemp� to solve that problem. The battom line was that it proved unsaorkable to accomplish, and the service road was left as is. It appears the ownezs of �he car wash do not wish to sell, and any realignment of th� roadway would aff�ct them consid�rab�.y. I suggested that �hey proceed w�ith �a red�velo�m�nt layaut, utilizing the City"s service road an�lysis as the b�sis far a solution. ��p�nding �pon tho am�unt of tax increm�nt that might be gencrat�d �bgsed on their d��ic�n), i� may rie possibl� �o he�P fin�nce a, puk�li� improvement that would provide �a saluti.on. G�nd wa�.ue�, howeve�r, are $o high th�t this ma� ncat h� worka�blc. Th�y re��nize that pu�ting � naw structure on th� Sinclai� �it� �lone simply pe�pc�tra�Q� a k►ad condition with respcGt �o the service r�aed, a�hic� n�w em��ies on ta Count� Ro�d B� cl��ac�iy e�s+� af thc nor�h ��r�d t.ra��c on S�ellinc� Avertue. � o i�L� Z14AI�. �� t Q 8.� `�� o� Tom Dunw�ll ��s in wi�h J�� r� n�ufholci t� �-��►;i�« �hn p�a� t�c�y �rap�se ta �r��cne +to t��e� �aunc,��. n�x� �9onc�� i�h�. � Thir plan is ��.nnilar ce pr��ridu�s p�la��, ca�c�ap� �taae �hQ �t�uc�u�� nQ��a�� t�e nnte'he�a�� cQcnc�� f tNe ��ea �ooul� !� �et �s,itl� �� .�o�psa�tc �ot ��d l�+ai�dfa�� am��i�r�� t�hs� �o�nac��ngc i�n�� . '�hi� 1�� +�a�l� � l��" � ��0' � �ndl �ont�ir� �� 8�6�� qu�rc� ��t�� u�l�i�nq � ��a ��o� ��1 � "�hQ �la��ro�rn ��uc�urg e� �i�Q �aQ�t a�oulcl be� ot� �a �o� 4��.�' x ��3" , e��eh� ��,�� qu�a�rc �� a� �p��co� �i��h anQ h��d�c� �ia�t�=r��o�� r�. �"t�� la� f�� en�l�t �a ��u� ��1�. A rhire! �o� ��ovld 1� �� th� ��h�� oto�Q� o� �� e, ��s� �o��d ir��ud� a ��i�� tYR ��,�A� ��u�rQ fc��t ��t��dlin� �o �un��.�on �� n �uc+��on 1»usQ, �`1�,�s ��r�c�l ��uld ��r� � ��ent�� 3�3 �c��+� +�� 6��x��s��t.�n �n� ��0 EcQ� a� ��d��+�g�. '�h�t ��c h�ne� �a+� �ou1cl �►c�or�od�ec� �n� k�ua��ircd ►�i�a�ca�r� c��. Th� cQ�n�inin� l�t �� t►a �ou�t�� u�elr�n� d� �t�� i�� w�ca��c� t�a��re 3�� o� �r�nc��g� �r, �ld� i�iq�, �r�� Q �cet o� r�arth/ �outh dc�tt�, �`h�s is ��.17 �cr� p�rcel wh�ct� t�o� wou�d prcapd�� to ��11 �� t1�� it�. '�� pri�� t�+�� g��osc� i� ��e �12fi,40 r��i��n�lly �axo�o�ac�, �alus an atldi�lon�� Q� �ho�+ �ddQd ta tk�e �ita �or p�rking �ur�osc�� o �cco�unc�d�te t��ront�r- . � nnf. � 1VC C�r� . '�'h1� �3��, 'tnc�► notc � .is ,c�, �r��r �c�lt�ic; �c�c��. �� ice of 5�.%� pei �qu�te �oo�, �nd �e�ua�s ��proximately �32,6a0.00. '�1�us, the to��;l price would b� S157,�4Q.QA. � L� s • Planning Office Hours November 4, 1987 Page 3 I noted that the problem with this whole proposal is that it assum�s that the land is wor�h what the School Board asks for it, and that the rezoning of substantially all thc property to a B-2 or B-3 District i� reasonabl�. I suggest�d that there i� no assuran�e or lik�lihood that substantial pc�rtions of the �.and could or should be ��n�d for business purpos�s, and �hat a residential or instituti.on�l u�se that could utilizc contiguous open spaG� as an asset wo�ald be a more �ppropriat� use. Under these �o�dlitians, �.t wou�d appear likcly that b�th th� City's interest �►�d � develape�'s interest can be morc rcaclily �►ccorctmvdated. ��n �xampl� is L�c 5choo�i i r� Rabbinsda lc . I no��c3, howevea, th�t if th� C�+�g� wr�� de,sirou� o� tti�v�� h� l�nd de�r�lap�d �� he ��p��►�eds tha� i� �r��ul� �e bet�er �o ��,�c� �hQ 20,Qp� squ�te �oa� bu�ltli�� e]kasQ� �o �t�� lr� ��hool� �n� � ��.�r� �e� it. It �a�t�l�� 0 1� t�ect�� t� �uc:r� ��e bu,i1�lio�q �ast/�r+�s�, ��tl me�erQ �he �ar��n� �tQ� ��. le�st thir+��P �a�e� �� th� ��uth l�urr�l�� h� �i��. 'T}�� p�at•kin� ��cta ea�l� �1�� 1� �°��c�r�od to �-1 Cl�m�e�tl ba��in�$�1 ��th+�� tan �-�, and ut�l�� ta �e�c�� -� �3a�cr��pont�nt ir� �+��o��i�n�� f�t� �3�� v�l�e� ��n� ��,�n�nc� �� e�ce�n�� endc�� '�'N� �_� a��t��i�� da�.� �c�� o��[�� il�r �a� �r�c�io� h�� I �u��+�� t1e�� ci��r��n� �1�� acf �� 1b�a�� sc�� +��n��l� �� t�� ta�� t°��c� �.� �k�� a��$ ��a� �� dl�a��op��n� ��a �r��ch �� zctc�, �h�t �t�� o��°�� c�� e�n �� t� �� 1�� pr��e. � a��c��1 �h�� h� �� t��c �h�� h� ��t�� i �� i� �h��=� �� c ��► c�� i�� u� ��r�� n� ��i ��n�i �t+� t►a�r� r� b� c�� °��t�+�� _ ��r��a� ��.��. "I`h�� Ns� ��+�rg� �� tl�� +�+�� h�� ur o��t ��:��. � � r €�� ''$��'4 ��r� t� �� 9�� a,�� in �� .�+�� c��a��h.� ,��, �r�+d ��.�� in ��,�� s��a �� r� ��v��e �� 1+�� d��►�d+� � ��a �� h� ��t ��+�� s �'�c�c �� t�� c�c �� i�a��►. ��Z �� a��t�� A��}' .s ��►�.�" ��m � ��fl�a�, ��o �h� �� tr�� c��cci ��h c�� i�� .��. �tesC�� +�� w �a�r�� :��i+��°g� ��. �`�'�c��, ��cc� �:h�� n� +�� p�u��1��r �@�� i� h��1 �a�� Q ea �� F�, �� 1��r�� r�� i��a�� En��l. I ��c�e��cd ri�r�� d��.��t� �� l�e� l��td �� h� �r��dl� «ith�ue �� Q��a��, g��n ��r �h� ��aa �� th�� it+�� it��r��reci, ��roul�d b� �t��c�� +��, � ��G�i �� r�c�y ��t�y ��n ct�� e��o- ��,��fl ��r� i,ac�u�c� ��:� ii�.a� �� ra��. ue�va�.c� m�n�. ' � � � ��n ��ca �r�c��inc� rj�w in�iiu�ciu��, lc�� E�� «�sia, I �ll.i �o��, t�ea�r��v�r, tt��t � c�� w�,�M �e�uld �a��ib�y t�e� �� ir��Qdi�� in e�n ��w�ra11 ��u�l�pmer�t �l�n if i� w��;Q ��ndl�d d,rQl�. I �uc�gest�d. there�or�, �t��t �1�� r�tinu� t� w�x),c wi�1� the n�w awr�cr o� �he prap+�rty ��r�d; �r others �o cl�ve�.��a �� c�or�r��.l ��d�veloprn�nt plar�. � � � ' P1 � anning Office Hours November 4, 1987 � Page 4 5. Gottlieb, 831-2326 Richard Gottlicb, on� of the owners of the Brick Oven Restau- rant, was in to discuss possible ar�modeling of the int�rior of thc stor�. Apparently about half th� building is kitchen, and they propose to chang� the layaut so as to add approxi- mately rhirty seats. This wauld tak� twelv� parking spaces� It appcars tha� by taking c�ut �he driv,�-through facili�y, that ap�roximatCly tMis m�ngv sP�ces �an b� added. Ala th� n�a�•kir�g on the total site �s �ubject tca crs�ss casemen�s, so �hat �u�tomeLs can park �ng�wher�. I s�tc�ges�tcd h� �roce�d ari �h iais �la�n�, �nd c�Q� back to the builc�irag �rp�rtment rc�gagdSa�c� ��xmits. �. a��, a�a-�a�s �Gi�qa� .3��a ��d t��- hus�b�nd �wr� t1�e� ce�s,id�nc� at 799 F�e�inel D�•iv� whc�� th�� dd � �c�� E��a�� n �hoir ��cl��ir�� h�ou��, aal�i�i� �� t�u��t �b��t ��n yQ�� ge�. 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'.��- _-- _��- �r� �,_ �seo MINNESOTA REVISED oaTE �'--�-�� = _ t � � � �� :.�.�: '�U_L��_`L t:��C�� (.;, ,i .� : I�1 51 �i .,i ��`'�I ii �il �i 1� PLANl�lIPIG OFFICE HOURS ;2„6n;,,' , i 10 `' _ 12 � 13 z! 14 .i 15 _� 16 � 17 ej 18 � 19 �� 20 =� 4�� „ T, rz--- � � �j ��/�' ...,.,, ��:� '�� M �i �z-9-e7 �•� �-s • a.� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN , � � 4��...�.- __ ,e • � � Oc�tober 29 , 1987 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren P LANNING OFFICE HOURS, OCTOBER 21 AND 28, 1g87 1, Mallor��, 487-1492_ le family lot between Skillman and Gordy Mallory owns a sing directly u�est of Dale Street•.�lman andaShryeoot He Shryer► With frontage on both Ski by 217 feet, creating two lots of 108•5 feet in proposes a lot split, Such a lot is, of course, depth, equaling 8,137 square feet. and 12,500 sub standard to the 100 foot corner lots required, square feet of land area. However, all th� lots in the streets betweea Wekforesee the an Shryer in this block have doub�fethosetlots will bondbotheends day wh�n most, if not all, on as to take advantage of the il theghomestfronttssoutherly a e of the lot• CurrentlY a 1 have not been assessed for their fron 5 Shryer► and like y on Skillman. �sted to Mr. Mallory that he discuss this whole I sugg because it is a deci.sion that will with his neighbors, t ntial development of the whole bloc . the f uture po e concept af f ec+� 2, Smith 339-6122 and 'th was back with two folks fndmBurkeleyrLewisLync Larry �ml Nancy Lewis a Realty Office, that b�ing � construc- Terrar�ee G. Matula from the Espree CorporatioT��y were in to management► and developm�nt comp�nY• t�'°`;' tenti.al development of the marina site north of d Lscuss the po I �• L a k e Owasso Schooi site on tlie Weas t��eid¢orf �ai�eoria. rhe �1� �rties, as you kno , be help£ul Both of these P�op these two properties may suggeS��d that combining in creating a more desirable redevelopment. of developing the This group is considering tt�e possibility We dis- perhaps, a townhouse development. lat�- marina sit� for, requirements, lakeshore r�quirements, � to cussed the zoning timing, and general prcablems relathousing ��ng p�:ocedures, velo ment of lakeshore frontagea�thatmthelproPerties could de P � Suggest value (usually difficult)• ur oses, and that the be developed for single family P p I Suggested, too, might be properly b�s�d on that cancept. that disc ussion with the neighbors in the area is � valuable too1, and required as a current proce ure. • s October 21 and 28 19� Page 2 Planning Office Hour , , • The property is shallow to the north end, and it would be difficult to conform to the required setback regulations on Victoria (where an additional ten feet is required) and the lakeshore (where seventy-five feet of setback is required. I noted, too, that a single family lot to the north of this property was turned down for a building permit, and that acquisition of that land might have some density value in the redevelopment of the prop�rty. T noted the need to demolish the existing dilapidated duplex, and the possibilities and desirability of continuing the services and function of the existing marina operation. They are going to consider this information, and talk to the property owner regarding a potentia]. conditional sale. 3. Duqinsky, 481-0882 Greg Duginsky is with Midwest Brick Company, who are pro� posing application of a brick-type veneer to the existing offi�e warehouse building at 1752 Terrace Drive. '�tais property is managed by the Shelard people, who hired Han.unel, Green, and A}ar�hamson Inc. to give them some advice regarding appropriakeness of a brick veneer attacY�ed to a �tyrofoam base insulation panel, to be attached to the out- side of the ex�sting ste�1 structure with sheet metal screws � one foot on center, with a patented pl.astic washer to hold the panel in place. A letter fror� an engineer from HGA noted that there were concerns about the handiing of the bottom of the panel wh�re a stainless steel angie is recommenc�ed to carry some of *he weight of the bric}c. I suggested that th�y should be working with the Unif�rm Building Cod� people at the State level to ascertain the necessary t�sts and acc�ptance of the technique as a part of th� Stat� building code. They ags:�ed that that should be an approach. The brick is in th� form a 3/8" b�ick-sized cut to be applied to a one inch layer of Styrofoam which has a�rooved �lastic sh�et forming the outsid� face uf the sandwich. Th� brick is ihen laid in this groove wi•�h PL200, atter which m�rtar is grouted in the joint�. Th� material weigl�ts six pounds per square foot, which I sugg�sted mi�ht be �oo big a load for the sheet metal screws placed one foot on center. In effect, each screw w�uld k�e holding up six paunds of mat�rial in a v�rtical load. This same point must hav� have c4ncerned the HGA engineers, in the sense that they spoke of a load laearing angle at the bottom. I noted that the zoni.ng ordinance does n4t disallow a brick veneer of this type. The real question, however, is one of � acceptance with the building code, which should be proce�sed at th� State l�vel b�fore it is considered by the local building inspector. � C� � • � Planning Office Hours, October 21 and 28, 198'7 Page 3 I also noted to Mr. Duginsky that prior to spending money improving these buildings, the people from Shelard should discuss with the City the potential redevelopment plans in this area, which could have an impact on the desirability or the teasibility of substantially improving these buil.dings in the near term future. 4. Hancuh, 636-3400 Lowell Hancuh is a resident of Roseville at 2093 Fairways Lane (just north of Midland Golf Course), and is the manager of a used truck division for Freightliner Truck Sales here in Roseville. He has been talking to Jim Trapp, who owns the former service station property at the northeast corner of Old Highway 8 and County Road C-2. Mr. Hancuh was inquiring as to the £easibility of developing a townhouse project on this site. I told him that the land that Mr. Trapp owns, plus the property to the north, is indicat�d on the Compr�hesive Plan as busin�ss property (�or- tions of it are zoned B-3), and that the development of a townhouse project in the �rea would he highly acceptable, inasmuch as it has been r�commended by contiguous neighbors at a public hearing, about a year ago, when an applicatior� was turned down by the City £or the development of a n�w �ervice station at the site. Obviously, the traff ic at this inters�ction has moved easterly to New Highway 8(Trunk Highway 77) anr�, th�refore, �he potential of this plan for mult3.-family housi�g purposes is mor� appropriate than busin�ss expan�ion,. I sugg�st�d that he contact the �ngineering ff,�m that h�s done pr�vious work on this site, and that he hire an imagina- tive d�:sign�x tc� Come up with a good pl�n for th@ land� and that informin� and workinc� with thc neighb�rs r�ill be an important @lement. The si�t� conrains 1.6� acr�s. Mar. Hancuh inquir�d as tQ any City financi�l invalv�m�nt. I noted that if there ar� soil condition� tlhat ar@ eiifficult, there may be som� City involvem�nt in th� form of tax incr�- m�nt. I also noted that if som� of the ur�i�ts ar� low or mod�rate incom� (under �36,000 p�r year), that this could mak� a ciiff�r�nc� in financial planning. K� is going to contaat th� owner of the land to the north, and �urth�r consid�r *he possibility of d�velopm�nt �f the land. 5. Halverson, 483-6701 �oots Halv�rsc�t� was in w�th Tam I�unwell ration of a r�sidential project westerly site. Th� site plan pr�viousl� review�d indicate a total of twenty-six units, two form of t�t�� existing duplex on th� lot the principal site, where access wauld public street sys��m. regarding the prepa- of his McDonald's has been revived to of which are in th� to the northwest of be gained to the • � � Planning Office Hours, October 21 and 28, 1987 Page 4 Charlie Honchell and Dave Janisch talked about the utilities, including the desirability of looping the water system which appears to be possible either westerly to Fry and Aldridge, or, more desirable, south to Skillman. We suggested he talk to the Fire Marshal regarding the location of hydrants and the cul-d�-sac turnaround requirements for fire equipm�nt. The sit� is 87,100 square feet, with 41,400 square feet of floor area (approximate), producing a floor area ratio of under .5, which is the maximum for the R-3A District. The land is zoned B-1, but could be dev�loped under the RTA density of 2,800 square feet per unit, wfiich equals 72,800 square feet. Our engineers noted the existance of a farty foot easement along th� south side of the pLop�rty, at�d that th� westerly portion of this could be relcased if we g�t acc�ss to the south, accompl3,shing the looping o� the water s�rs�em. W� also talked about extending the s�wcr system �o as to �rovide a� separat� lc�d to �aeh of tt�c f��ur unit �tructures for be�th water and sew�r, This, thera, �makes it pas�ible in the f uture to divide th� land +�o sell individual buildings as � pa�t of the P.U.D. and an associ�tion. Thc land is in � some �aond i ng ma� sewer could be such time a� separa�e lot�. � the Rice Crcek tdatershed G�istrict, and �hws be required. Charlie lionc?aell nQk�d Ch�� hc �ariv��c, �nd �Qtition�d� �a become �ukaii� �� kh�y m�� nl,at the �auL v�nit s�ru�tu�es inka f�ir. Hal�a��sQn c�nnr�t �cll ��°� di tlie �to�er�,y na`�r �c�r at least ��r� yc;�rs, k�e�ause of his ac�x•e�m�r�ts ��ri+�k� �hc� t��cDor�eld's �eo�le ��he ha�� h� �ii�t t:'l�ht c�f re��u�a1 c�n the pr��r+ty in thc euent �£ � �aLe�. In �et��c�r�1, i� app��a�s +�h�t �1�� d�ve'l�pment ti�ill �s►�h�n�4 �aut ha+�s:ir►g� ba�se pr�vid�,ng �4� ��h�� pp�ar� �Q �� v�zy �±��c�en� c�u�dr�uni�nium b�i�d,ine��, +��c�� w��h a� pr�v,�� court�e�d, ��d �i�h �two bedroom� ir► � two-s�ary ��anEic�ur�atic�n, wi,t� full basemec��. i�tess�-s . Hon�Mel �. �nd J�nisch nc�tc�i, too, �ha� �h� a�s�ssmenta for �}�is �ro�� ty �or ��,�.im�te �.m�arou�r�ents �n ��a: idg� and Fry �nu�d b� �cc�k�r �:h�r� tii�c,tr Erant�ge on �i�i� stt�s� �ys��m. Tt�e� n�ted �lso �1�a� �ld�:'Ldc�� ar�d t'r�r wi�.� lik��.� t�e� imp�oved within �ha t��xk tiv� �c�rs �� a part �aE the Ci��r"s c�v�ral�. stree� imgro�►emen� �ai•ogx�m. They ��lso rZoteei ti��t t��cre n�Ay ue same �s�es�i�nents tMa� w�ul� fail on the p�c�;a�t}�, :,�hi�ri mi��i� riot hav� becn anpli�d bQca,us� of its re1.�Civc inaccesslbilitv, . . • � Planning Offic� Hours, October 21 an � d 28, 1987 Page 5 • The parcel in question is the rear of lots which front on Snelling, and have remained divided as they were over twenty years ago. They noted that as a consequence to this develop- ment that the entire property would likely be divided into three pieces: one occupied by McDonald's, one occupied by the new Kentucky Fri�d Chicken building, and the third would be the twenty-six unit housing project. Construction of this develapment would occur next Spring (if approved), �nd processing will likely occur in the first weeks of January. �. Wild, G33�1834 Dr. wild was in to discus� the expansion of his �uilding on �he cast side of Sne�ling Avenu�. H� had a survey of his lot indicating ��at practically thc e��ir� lot is aSphalt, with the b�ildinq in the ccnter. i�e pro�os�s to add a 10 x 12 square foot addition to the �uilding on the south side, whar� �he �xisting buil��ng is �bou� f�ur �eQt from the prop�rty line• TMe new �dd�tio� would line u� w��h this faur foot �etback �rea. NQ ha� tal�ed with � neighbo� ab�u� ge�ti�� ad�ition�l araa QE land ka move th�t pro�e��y line back, which �a� b� �►s&�ble. MQ�cuer, �he expan�ian oE the bui�ding, I n�t�d, � cannot i�c donc without ��oce��i�g of ��riance �a�au�� he �n�� sitc i� �an��n�o�mi�g, �n��ue1ti �� h�� i� no �etbec� �o the ��king ex��t �n th� �� nd �outh s�de. � su��e�ta� thet 1�� ha�� si�� pl�n p�epared �t��ing �h� �xi��n� si�u�ti�n� �uildin� �a��ia�, pa�k�ng, �� ng ��nd�cap�n�. 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"-�r �,��-•.�`s.� x � �..e,...� iL,,.� � �� 1�#1+wNa t�� r I i �l �t � �''� �., � � :t'� � e^t_ ' � . �._ � L a � �,.�.r � ,, � ; ,, . �; � �� ; �,_,_ L �� cxntr ��J.'� .� N � �i rt � !� �LI�_. �•�' � �!: �1 " w �I . � ��'� y�� ''y -�:.. � - ''--- - �� R~• _.�.i �� a _:x s � N ,t ..' .._� eaa -_.'�: ai I .� r •�'t a i—a.. �� .. � — ci i�so p -�;..a �... � m_,�.�x+�.r.F,aer d,- �„. _.:�� '��a��.�� f +�� .� �'; �� h' �� p� '�• � �� I �� P°.�.A ��.,�� f -�a"a�'�_� �. `-� � � A� � " .� � -- . :�', � ."o�.._.. �� . » C, � � a' �h� �: w � 1� �:u � �� i� �� S� �� i� �� ) '� ! • October 19, 1987 TO: Jim Andre FROl�1: Howaxd Dahlgren �UB�ECT: FL�iN�YdG �FFiCE �DURS, �EDNE�SD��, OCTOBER 14, 1987 1 � �"e�rin� �3G-Q�4'1 Rick �e��ing awn� �� au�:�omob�lc: t�an�mi�sian rr�p�� erai�a �� th� tf�e sauthwa�t �ar��r o� ��unt� �aacl D and �'��vi�w. ��u� � yc�� or �wa ��o� �.h� Ci�y �u�hor��a� tt�a ��m�tad c�x��r��e�r� r�� h�� i�e, +�Mict� t�ie:. �`��:inc� dle� r�o� de� ��a+u�Q �.tr� �itQ I� v��y+ �m�� tc� �ccan�ada�� x��a�slc�n �c�d �he p�a�kin� M� nc�ads �� r��11. �� w�� i� �� 1� �.��s� +��r�u��in� �1�� f�� c�� +�1�+� ��e�t� �4 P11� ��$k. �dlt� ��ft� ��'1�� CC�� !3� t�� l��i ��i��i�s �iB�� t�� a��l or� ��i� .��a�+�i�a�� +��a�� i��. � �u�+��t� �tra�� 1�� d E�at � ��u��1t�-=�s� ��r��i �� l��n� �n �r �c�� t��e�h �tr�� a�� d�qt�� k�n� �� c��.b�� r�� ag �tr� Eaa��ea � �u��3 �t��t t�� i�h� ��n��de� �tuylr�qi �tr� �.��+� �� i�� :=�t �� ai� � ��w �u��llo�+�, ��d ��i��p�� a�� h�� r�t �i+�� t�� rs�a �� t�tt�� l��i �,��n� ��_ �� t ��r��. �i� n� ��y�� I��r�� p�� c��l 1��, �� l��►�ln�� i�� 1��ir�� +�u�� ly�� c� �.� �a�r�� :��c�� t�� o�+��s�� nc� ��t I�� .r� ��;�� # �. ��I[e� f�3�-iti�a � t��l�� a� �� '�� 3�� th F'+��r��c�, �� 8�c� ��a�tP�� i�� a� F��rr�� a�dl .��c��tt�, 1�� ►� � �� e�r� �l�a ��fi �►��1� �� i�i� ��u�� rl��l� �� c�� +�� le�k�� ae�� n 1� t�� wi�t�� n,�l� ��l�i�� r�l�dir�� r��t�� e�� a��l, �hl�l� wau�� =�i`� �� a� �� r�, �I��s t�+�� f�� o�l� �� , ��x lc��t�� `��r� �1�� tt� ��t� ��co�, �t�� i�� l�e� ��I��a� �P�i� �s��ilt� :�i��u��a �;�� [��t� �� t�l� sau�� tap�rty �ir�� i�i� ��i��, �� w:�]�� rr��t w��i:. F1�c�r�� Luc°�1�eY �a th� �►�� r�ul� �r��c�l�� pnovlr�e,� � t��. �ii� iic�� 3i.�ii,%�a��ri� ��i� �M�,'a �i'M��'r�3cii i� i�lt� a�3�i�� 'w�Ia`?��Q ��a��c�� rzc� c]r��r�►y �i•�: �c1 �1��t� �ir�c� �� 1�� house, �c� ��e� �he t�uild3r�g wlthir� �ix �r�el�� t�e ��co�a��y �i.c��, w47�.�c1� i� � eont,�yuc�us t� �r� exi�Cing �:t��ir� link ��er�c€. Tt�� a�p�ar� tc� I�e � L�a�svr�al�l� ea��cliciaG� gor � inir�or v�rianc� und�r �he cf �cun�s��nce�. Ti�e elevatic�� ot th,�� pa��i ,L�, �y th� �r�y, 8 Cee� abvve tlze �l-Lc��t, �r�d tl�us �s nvt l�igtily vi.sib�.� �ic�m either FeLnwood o� Ju�likh. � � � e Planning Office Hours October 14, 1987 • Page 2 3. Smith, 339-6122 Larry Smith, th� principal architect for Arvid Elness on th�e Housing Alliance project, was in tQ discuss potential development he cont�mplates in his new rale as head of a n�w company called Main Street Dev�lopment. He is w�rking with Arvid Elness on a proposal to build a n�w co�ncept far Senic�r Ci�iz�n's caic known as "Elder Hc�mest�ac�." Tl�� pro�o�ypc for this development, r��anEd �o�.ntly b�r the wilder Corporation ac�d G�eneral t�iills i.n i�iinnetonk�, is a �wenty-s,�x unit str�cturc w�ieh looks likc �� ald f�shian�d farmhousc, �:omple�e with �xten�siv� ��r��nd� �,round +�h€� unit an �ri� f ton�t. '�h�.s �rato�ypc i� �.aca�ted �t �fiapkin� �ro�sraad� a�nd Tt unk Hi�hway� '' � j us� ea.�t c�� Shad� b�k �ca�r� whe�rc i+� �nte�r� �iighwsy 7, nca� thw�se�Y�� L da�+n�own �ic��k�.��. This .�s � twc�-�t�r�t st�u�+�ur� E��u� �ng � �or�noc� ��►� 1ar ��te�en �t�c� s�r; �1� ��rtments �o� i��ic:��endun� �ivir��, ��r�t wl�h ��ra��r�� bl�a ��r�e. 'T?�� or1�� in l��k�ns i�t ��g�tn� E�y i��ca tr��1�� Fc��r�r��+� �c�n . Th� �xr.��e��y� ��ca �r�c e1ri� ��opo�r�d ��a��op�nt i� �hcs ot�d �r�s��r ��t��l ��, �er��s i�t�� er�Q� �re�r» tl�� rr�r��ra� �� r� �he ��t �l�e c��' '�'lc�,a� ��. °�tri� ��o�t t� �� n�cl lb� �►�1�u�t��•, +�h� +dez��+��acl �1�� ro��x�� h� ��o�� tt�� . s,tc� ��r� ��a�� l�a�cs�c��n� ��r �i�� z��r €�� r� �r��h �D� . ��t��i�� , �:��t.ir�� rnr �� "��a� �� t�ou�lc�� Ec�� 8�� lc��r ��. �'lr�� l�e� �� c�� i�ca��e�c� ��°� �n� ��rr�� E��s ��h�tt��, �t�� i�� +��e� �+�vaa��r�� hl� �t�� a�� te�� p►�� c��l�� tsc� ��a��ptr�� . � �� ae�� . ��. �8� ��t �� ,��=�� k�� n��1� b�� n �a�� b��; �r��! ��.�1�� m� R� le�s��, � �;��l��t�t�� a�, �a�� tr� �� o�� a�� 1��. � �� h�t �h+�� :a�� mf��l�� %�teQ�, ��° ��i�� l�er�t��+� lrr kfo�;��r��ar� ��+�1� �e�� 6i�r E�� a�� I��in�A i��s�� t��r�� t►� r�� +�� ti�eh �r��l�+c3�� h� ��i��e� �� °�� %��. rti�� i�� 1��i� �� 1�:�� ►t�� h� t� ��t �.i�� ►�rr�i�� 1�, �ri�# �r�l� �r�e�Q��atQ �h�� s�� li��ea��l ��r��n� ��d +��re�� :��a��t��+��, �1�� :��i�� '��1:��' � y�� R��ill� �� l��l��c� �i�►i��y� �t�� 11��aQd �� r►��°r�� r�� Fic� r�� tfl�,�� t�� c��cR►��t� �� tt�i� ��rr��t�� t�tir►Nj��hk� �� a� �li� 1�:��], �� ri� «f��r� t1r�y� �s� r�� ivc� priv�� !•4 ' 4. .•�l'a.v r•e�c�� wE.t�'�+3�t= �r� i il �� ftlel� y�4� t�� E��`F��f` 'L:�l.'•T• Kl�t��r� �!/!� j✓�r ,r�e+yp �a�•��sas.r+.�Fe .�. ��.:,d `i �a �l.l��►ir�c� �n��°� �� fr�i• �,��wrr ��e� ari� b�►�1�3�i'� d�v�l�pn�e�t. �t�; �;� ��3.�n� t� �rc��cl w�,tt� nrc��.�� r�eise pl�nr�it�c� �r�d in��- tig�ti�n caf �1�� os�il�ili+�les �� omvin�tior� 4�itt� tY�� c�p�r�� LA �1�e nert�. � Planning Office Hours � Page 3 October 14, 1987 � 4. Sertich, 484-2451 Steve Sertich is the brother of Mike Sertich, the Univ�rsity oE Minnesota, Duluth, hdckey coach. St�ve married into the Frasca £amily of Colorado Springs, where th� family opErates a string of six restaurants known as Pizza Plus. Steve propose� �ca expand th� iamil� operation here in �he Twin Citics by c�p�n�ng a new restaurant in Sh�larc� Strip Center at B-2 and R.�c� Stree�, tio 1» kt�own as Eaminos. ��v� safd �hat this wi�l be basically � sar�dwich shop wi�h s�at,�ng �ar f�ftiy per�ons, wi�.t� 1, �00 squa�c feet of sp�ce of, wh�.ch �00 squarc �c�t��wil� lie for dining. Thi.� is � p�rmi�t�d us� in �hc �-2 D�str�ct, �►1�.�ch �h� �and is xoned �nd, <her�;Eor�, is� �r� a11-owed U�c. �ar}�inc� �c�r � ��n�il ��t�ru��rY� of Ei�ty p+c��nns Ls ��ren�y c�r� � r,�e �c�mmonish�c� hi�n t�a m�k� ��e �h�+� rhe p�r�tinc� �� ritg� ,�� i��c. Tl�� R�cca 1�6 ��r��a�g ��a�c�� on th� �i��, �s r�c�e�d �ay St�vc:, �i�t� &.� pe� �%r�u��nd ��a�e:c� E�et. 5. 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Boots has �ur�h��ec� �ti� dup��x t� the norcthwes� oE this sit�, giving ��e�s �o kh� @ublic st�r�eet �ys�em at k�c nor+thwest corner. '�hl� l�r�c� i� r�i�►t�ivc;ly l.andlo�kcd. It is �oned B-1. The twcznty-f4�� uni�s propo��ed w�u1�3 c�c�Eorm to the R-3A zvning ��t�sii � �a� at�u� �eventee�� units aer �cre. i su�g�e�+�ec� �1�� ti��y mig�h� rQ�side� an ei�t�r c�n.E� builciing c�E � t��x; �i�7�C�1 �aoul�d �.n�iudt� at��eh�d g�r�gc�. 'Y"M� rown- h�a�� o��l �e�r�lual�ci se��r�►�e gar�g�s, wt�lcri I��1 w�uld � Z�� r:r��t�v� th�n �t�.aci��c1 �ar�gt.s �� t11i� location. � �+��c3 �:t��: t�1» d��ue�a�m�n� migh�t 1� �ece�ta�bl� t� tl�c ��r��, 1r��muciz �� i� �mphd�i�+�� i�au��,�c� �ri � hau��g fo�m nvt c;t��-�ntl,� �v��l�i�l� in �i�� . �'1�c:or�t�c�lly� thc �rop�rty ��tl� ��e u��cl Eo�- �.ir� ��t��t��ei�a� c�E an ��ic� tauildinr� with ��e�� f �rr�ll�r�c� �iUer�ra� �I�rc��ac�h �.h� �w4 rest�u��nt �i�es �fl �t�� ,1�� fe� p�a�a�r�g�. i��weU��r, �+ �+�11 d�ne ��ci�.*n�:i�;Z, ��e��ei=��r��Ily� h�u�ing �ro��c� ��,� b� o�E grester ��o��i� ��a �,1�� Cit'�, in��m��ti �� t�ii�� r� m��r�y flth�� rc�� 1��c� �a��r� ��,��: �«:�►�lcap�me�� :�� a�rc��i�t�. �"Ie�� tc� ��.�r�� luQk �t arnen��l £d�� r�r t��1� d�velog- en��t, �n� wi��. 1�F:�ly l�� k ��r ��i�hex r�vlew. Q��r� s��r+��.+�dt ��c��d �Y��t � sir� In�ei� l�c��a�,ng w��r 1��►� woulci k�� a�•�g� i��, "��: c3ev�lopmerz� ��ou�.d 3.nvolvc an a�n�:ndm�nt �o c;i1� ��i��t�c:ns�v� F�.��Y l l�r�ti u�e cl�a�� i. ��c�t �plx�, �:��z�r�irta ��n� �-1 �a R=3�, ��tl �.l�:�ly � P,i�.D. �, Dunw��,l� �i�3-�iQ� Tam �uraw�l� �is� �c:�i�wc;ci wi�:lz us � preliminar� plan ro add �,a�i��:,�n� cat f;t�e cair�i.�.:w i;uii�tiiUfl��.y� �c:i'it�?�. i�i tc7tdl of �r�ap�c�x,�m�t�ly un€: ?1und�ed �wGnCy-thr�Q n�c�a s�ac�s would be �dd�� !�y �xpar�dir�c� l:hG ��kiny to t}�� w�:st ot� tt�� south �id� c�f Caunty R�ad B� Th� pxo�osal ��au�d b� setback Fif��n f�� EE Ca�nty Rr��d H�, wi�i� acc��s o£i the bui].d�.r�g acc�ss driv� ( no access� directly to County Road B) . Ttze parking expans3.on �or thc Cammun;i�y C�ntcr is� � sp�cial. use in �he R-1 District (�.f owned U� � Sct�ao�. Board, as �s th� eas� ii�r� ). • • Page 2 P lanning Of f ice H��urs October 7, 1987 • I suggested that as they develop the plan, that they meet with the neighbors and, particularly those to the north O£ the Gluek Lane area. Here there is a heavy screening trees to protect the rEar yard of some of the contiguous homes that would be affected by this development. Apparently there is a crying need for additional parking, and it appears that the expansion of the parking in this location would be the most appropriate solutiono achieveemthe� best maesthet�c doing it carefully, so as t result. C� � 3. Cavanaugh, 455-7100 was in with Dennis Cavanaugh, from the C. G. Rein Company, Tom Solberg (also of C. G. Rein Company), Gary McClean, and Bill Link out of Phoenix, Arizona. The latter are the installers For drycleaning equipment to be utilized in a proposed drycleaning store acornerCofGCounty RoadaDyand PLong Center, at the southeast Lake Road. They propose to install drycleaning equipment with up to four employees, which would process drycleaning in addition to that brought to the site by the retail custom�r. I noted that handling of drycleaning brought to the site serving the direct customer would be permitted, but that pracessing of drycleaning from other $�-threesother�satellate stores�reduces drawing drycleaning trom their costs so that they can reduce their price�. Gary McClean notes that he has eight franchise locations for this equipment in the Twin Cities including Edina, Blooming- ton, Minnetonka, Brooklyn Park, Roseville, White Bear, Eagan, and Golden Valley. I suggested th�y request an ordinance am�ndment which would allow for the accommodation of �his use as they propose it. 4, pope, 642-9000 Bob Pope, Jon Pope, Jerry and Chris Brown, Bob Pine, and Douglas Jones wereans for111MmitedBexpansion at�thea1Wilbertt their proposed pl Chandler Vault Company. They would like to propose an immediate expansion on the second floor involv�.ng four hundred square feet of office space, some roof repair, anci some remodeling involving about 2,400 square feet total. This use is permitted on the site, and a i�uilding permit could be issued without Planning Commission or Council review. I noted the desir.ability in the long-term of zelocating the plant ra'cher than investing substantial expansion expense at �.his site. They note that they currently own sixteen plants, heaciquartered out of the Roseville location. They are located in Minnesota, North Dakota, and Wisconsin. � ' e Hours � Page 3 Planning Off ic October 7, 1987 The long range plans for the site could include refacing the building on the west side, expanding the parking to include the residential site to the south (which they own), and revamping the service acc�ss to the building from the north side to the east side. It appeared that any attempt to relocate the plant at this time might be premature. Any redevelopment attempts in the area would appear to be affected, for the time being, by the lack of decision :Eor Ramsey County Library expansion, In any case, it appears that th� minimal changes proposed would be appropriate for the time being, and that before any significant expansion occurs, the City may wish to w4rk cooperatively with them to determine if a relocation process is appropriate. 5. Galeski, 545-1111 Michael Galeski, of the Thorpe Real Estate Company, and Wayne Harmon and Lee Wolfe, of the Avis Lube Company, were in to discuss the possible construction of a new building at the northeast corner of County B and Snelling. This is an old Sinclair gas station on a relatively small site. � I pointed out that ideally the redevelopment of this site should inelude the other two properties contiguous to the north and east, that U�ing th� medical office and the Roseville Car tdash. Micha�l noted that he had talked to these �wners, each of whom appeared to be disint@rested in selling, �xcept �t a v�ry high price. � Michael noted that an attorney owns the m�dical office building, and is asking �400,040. Tl�e car wash tolks (Cilarlic Rub�nstein), w�r�: not interest�d i� selling or quoting a I�ric� . The Avis Lub� peogl� (a subsidiary �f th� Avis Rent-a-Car Company) propose a 2,4�0 �quare foc�t building with three servic� bays. I rioted the requirem�nt for an additional 9- 1/2 fe�t Gf right-oE-way on tk�e norkh side of Coun�y Road B. I questioned th� adequacy of the sit� for the proposed use. Th�y may t�!'OCe�d to devel�p preliminary sit� plans, which may indicate such adequacy. we also �alked about oth�r possi�.le locations in tt�� City. Th� sa.te consis�s of .173 acres. The Sinclair people are asking $250,000. The Avis Lub� people indicate that th�ir objectiv� is to be the "cadillac" of the auto lube k�usiness. They indicate their total investment woulc� be approximately $�50,000 to $500,000 (tota�l develapment value). 6. Akiba, 332-1234 � John Akiba and Jim Johnston of the Pointe Development Corgo- ration were in to talk about their r�vised landseape proposal for their site west of Hamline. � Planning Office Hours October 7, 1987 Page 4 � They note that they will be applying new brick on the Forum building (the old apartment buidling developed by Carbone). The brick wall along the east side of the property will be built and landscaped under a separate contract. � LJ We reviewed the landscape plan, whicl�. appears to be very well done. I noted, however, the deletion of a walkway around the south and west side oF the building. I noted that this walk- way will be required as proposed. They requested they be allowed to build the walkway next season. I suggested that this would be appropriate if verified in writing, with the understanding that it will be built. There seems to be a question as to the ultimate ownership of the pond. I noted that it was approved on the basis of their dedicating the pond to the City, which they note they are willing to do. They noted further that though the budget for the pond improvement was $40,000, they spent $97,000. 7. Arias. 636-4194 Jesse and Lee Ann Arias werc in to discuss th� possible use of the .Eormer European Spa building as a dance club sit� featuring no �leohol.. They propc�se to lease the building and operate it as a privat� club for young p�ople, featuring no alcohol. Th�r� appears to be adequate parking for the use proposed. A private club or lodge is a permitted use in the B-1 District. Th�y may �ursue kheir inter�s�t in this propertY. They have nat, as y�t, discussed rates or financinq. $. Bauer, 483-05Y8 taally Baucz is a build�r, proposing �a lauilc� at A35 South Owass�. i�i� proposes to shift a lot Iine so as t4 �rov.�d� ad�quatc s�tback for the propos�d stLucture. Dav� Janisch not�d �hat L•his ad jusl:m�r�t could b� cione administratively, inasmuch as no n�w lot will be d�v�lc�p�d and no lot will be substandard. 9 . Ca� hlarty Capp, owner of the former Ros�vill� Bowl sit�, was in with J�ff Kast of Kraus-And�rson, and �ary Gandrud, �+ttorney. We discussed their r�modeling and r�us� �f th� Ros�vill� Bowl building, iioting that the chang� in us� irom bowling allcy �o r�tail triggcred th� nonc4nforming use clause. A buildinc� permit has been is��d £or th� remod�ling Qf �he build�.nc�, althaugh no sit� plan for the handling oi thc �arking had been submitted w�.th �.he Uuilding plans. a sub�@C�U@I1�: plan indicated use oF ihe pa�king as is. Mr. � Capp agr�ed to modifi�ations to tl�e parking ��lan to includ� � s�tback along �killman, seven feet in width, allowing for tlne develonment of �our rows of �arking at �he �ighteen foot depth and twent.y-fou� fodt wid� aisle standard as required by th� City. 0 • Planning Of f ice I-�ou rs October 7, 1987 � Page 5 He further agreed to the construction of two islands at the ends of the interYor parking bays, approximately nine feet by thirty-six feet. He also propo�e� approximately ten feet of width of landscaping on the west side of the building. Also included is the elimination of the parking on the east side and the landscaping of this area becween the buidling and the public right-of-way. Mr. Capp agreed to apply for variances to construct the lot as proposed, and to seek variances for the �xisting structure which was nonconforming. The variance would inclu�de the �ollawing: 1. 2. 3. 4. Par}cinq from one hundred spaces to ninety-five. S�tback for parking on the south sid� from fif teen f�et to seven feet. North side parking s�tback from five f��t to zero. w�st side �arkiny setbac�C �rom t�n fe�t to Qne �o�t, Th� setbacks to th� building would vary ;Erom 30 g�e� �o 27.5 on th� eas� side� 30 ��t to 0 on ll�e �outh sid�x and 10 � E�er to 0 on th� n�r�h sid�. I� ap��ars thati �hro�tgh th,�s proce��, k1�� parking lr�� will be �ully curl�d �as r��uir�d, anc� landscap�d to e� r��on�tble degr�� withaut r�ducing �h� par3�,��q �o th� �x�ent khat it �t� unworkabl� for r�t�i1 us� of the builc3ing. 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' l..a... r s � 0 �� C17rt2��1��J�._3LL.'i��`' ��r�� _!� �� "i�'�� `!� �� ._. -----_,---. --�.—,.---.I � 'Y� � � � � � � �a � v� � i2 � ,3 �� r� �i i� Q` �s � Q7 �i ia � , �s �� 20 =1 �• `4: C� � er 20 1987 � Octob , T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1987 1. Sedaghat, 633-5311 Fred Sedaghat now runs a car care operation out of Jim Trapp's "Clean-Co" site at the northwest corner of County R��ad C-2 and Partridge Road. He would lik� to establish a c�ar leasinq and sales op�ration on th� site in addition to liis "classic ear carc" service. This use is a special u�se in the I-1 District, and would require th� processing of a Special Use Permit. I inform�d Mr. Sedaghat r�garding tt�� i.nadequacies o€ this site r�lating ro previous appli�a�ians �or a Special Us� Permit, and the lac� of cooperation on �11� p�rt o� tlz� land- c�wn�r to clean up �omc ot the �ar�viously cec�uired condi�ions. tRr, Sedaghat n��ed tt�at Jim Trap� h�s s��ed h� wor�ld rl� nc�thing with �h� property in khe w�y Qf im�rov�ments. Undar Ltiese conciitions, I �txgg�s�ed that khe a�plicatior� �ar a �peci�l Usc Pecm.��t would t�� Eutll�. It ap��rs t�tr. Sed�gh�t will cor��c3�r a�h�r �.oca��.�ns i� he �ursues �t1is obj��tlue. 2, t►icCla�re. 5�11-�.00A �7r�hn ��1cClure, £r�m tidoocibridge P�o�aertios, w�� r� �� ►�k a1�u+� revi�sior�s in �t�tei� w�,��;� ci,is�rrib�u+tion �y��enn, s� �� ehieve tiy� eri��;i.a oE i��ving �ire Nyr�ran�s r�c�� rn+��c� ��arr three i�unclLed Ee�+� �p��+�, ftip��rar�tl� +�M�ir enc�ln��r ��um�d th�� this �ri��r3,� did no� �Pp1Y, p�nd �+�s �roe�e�ing �ccordir�gly. Dav� �ani�ch conti�me�i tN�t �1�� th��:� I�und��l ��t er,�t�r�a� �djus�ment ��o�1d Ma�v� �.o �� m�cie, �ithauc�h �i1i� m�y c��u�t i� �.nereas�ri d.Lreet e�sts t� � w�aoeibridgQ. t►1r � �leClure �tt�n �� rrt�d �hc �r�v is�d l�r�dsr�p� �1�� or t�he �eriPhery �lanting c�t� t�l� �i��. �nm� c,�h�r�c�� e��.u�.�Qd fro� pot�d mod3.�ie��ivn�. Tizey ar� �l�o r�r�ppinr� ��or�c�pt �€ �k�e lar�e l�caul�c�s i� �tie �c�r�ding �c�e�, �nsi �re �ai�g Eor �rass botitom with a"vallay gutter." 'ft�� j�ggir�� t� wili b� six �� wid� and l�i�uininous, ��ci w�l� �br��:�tu�.� ��p�oxi- mat�ly � �wo �nilc �•un. Mr . �ac�isch ��t�d tliere would b� r�o �xoes �n ta� n� �h� u�ility lines. Z ha��e sutas�c�uei�tly reviewed �h� �r►�.i�c �ia� � with J�fF rtartin frorn ra�y ofiic�, �nd tou�d it ��o be in excess af the �xiginal propasa�ls. Thc �mallest t�r�cs �r� �aur inches in diamet�r, and many of �hem arc: six inchc�. This landscap� plan has �hus be�n �pp�rc�v�d. � � . Planning Office Hours October 1, 1987 Page 2 3. Akiba, 332-1234 ,Tohn Akiba cam� in with revised landscape plans consisting of three sheets indicating grading, site plan, and the land- scape plan itself. They have now regraded thc southerly portion on and near the williams Pipeline alignment, and have retain�d th� sumac and several of the existing maple trees in this area �F the site. A11 thc land wi11 be soc�ded, as we had prcviously agr�ed. � new plan indicates the pathway around th� south and w�st side of rhe building to bc �c�ne at a 1dtEr time. I insisted that this pathway must be committ�d, and c�nnot simpl� l� dro��ri. They reguest �hat �this b� built �n 1988, Th� remainder of the l�ndsc�ping, �s� indic�t�d, w�.11 he in��allQd �Mis year, ut�less Cc�Cc►SI�L'OpT1�C we�tltcr �r��er�t� t1�i$. i ��ee�ted t�,e pl,�n fo� c�vi��►. Th� i�ulk �� trQ �l�n 1� ��cac � 1� �s pr•evi��as 1� �uhrni r ��d . �#. H11�2 �21-213� .�im �i 1�� s �ry ��chi��e who +��s �n �i�h hl� T��rn, �leve�cr�e�c �f +k1�� aY��i�l�n�i�� p�o��►� �� th a� �c�ua�t� Rc�ad �, �nc� ar��Qrl� +�� vi��c��i�. "��x��r ��c�p�as�� i� �� .U,D. wi �1� f �v� un�tr� �r� �r i . Y � �+��r� �� , m�a�u� �h� �xi��:�n� i�� on +�tra� �ar��r ��. 'T1�L� �� u� �� 97 � �c�u��tt Ea�+�� nl�, �h�sP� �,��u�� 4�c�r��•c� � �e��c�r�� ta�► �C�� c� �_�� r��t�cl +�h� c�Q��.��i�� c�t�r �r�� p �8�� c��a��y �a �h�� t� �� R � ��b�l�� :�e�� I �� t�� 1��r� �� t�c� ��o��=�� ;� c��n�€�l�p �6�� g�� 1i� �o�t� ��1� ��►�.�1�� c�� ii�� c� �6ae� �� rl�� c��+��. i ��u��e��t�ci �8��v �h� �� , �i�hs�� tl�� m� �� t��n�� . �,��b� �h1� �rv�� 8r ��r� ��f�� o ��c� a��t=�P� �� c��lc�� a��h��°. 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Gharlie Honchell noted that aft�r the split, the dedication For the w�sterly portion of land could be drawn up and handled by the City. 6. Lan�, 645-0751 Georgc LanZ pro�oses Talisman Curve, along Road C r ir�ht-of-w�y. matc�y tw� Eeet 1o�et �lightly sou+�t� of hi� to build a privac�► fenc� at 1432 �he sou�h �id� contigu�us �o the County Ne notes tiha� hi� �roperty �ts �pproxi- than t1�e sidewAl�C, which �uns �ast/wes� �oa�tt� �roper�� line. i gug�et��d tt��t ��nc� h��1�ec tha�ra Eo�r �Q�� +caulc9 tze �ppre�pt�i�� ee� �h� �x��n� �h�� titQ l�nd i� l�wcar t��t�� thet wa��. '�t��r�, �E +�i�Q p�v�c�� ty 1� ta�� eet ��r�� tlr�r� �t�� +��k, � �ix E�� en�� uD��l 1� ��z��prl�� #��r�d ��m �oun�� to��l C 1, aa� �=�vi�+ar�� - .��d�cc�� nd ti��a�� E�� l�� ar�, �+n� ��a��►g�.� �a��i�� `�r hi.� �x��t�c��. �. 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'v w.�.*� 1� ,o :� � o ��r � � - •-_ ~' ��' _ ... _ ` � �� i � _ •* •e 1� i�oo �. : -:� � a �, -� . • ., � ,.�- - L ' .,.—) _ Y,� ��•�� '�� C.zL 1..0 �nr�(� �� I� °��1f =111 �I �l � � . 16 � f7 �I f8 � 19 �I 2� 'I � September 23' 1987 T0: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, SEPTEMBER lb, 1987 1. Coverc�ale, 642-1364 R�.chard. CovErdale was � n with Rod and Dorothy �3randon, the latter of whom own the car wash and o£fice building down on Larpenteur. Richard Coverdale owns land to the north, which is occupied by a twelve unft apartment building with 72,680 square feet of land (County tax area). The land is zoned R- 6, requi.ring 4,000 square feet per unit; thus the land area required is 48,000 square fe�t. The Brandons want to purchase a portion of �he land from Coverdale, which would expand the northerly end of the car wash site to produce additional parking and a greater depth for turning the cars to enter the car wash bays on the north side of the building. You will recall this building has a car wash below and offices above. It appears the office portion of the building has 5,460 square feet, which requires twenty-seven parking spaces. The site has twenty-eight parking spaces. They are contemplating purchasing a strip of land approximately seventy-five feet in depth. This will leave considerable land area for land- scaping and screening. I suggested they prepare a plan with topography, how this would work and that if it appears to work may consider processing it through the Planning and Council. I noted the importance of ineeting neighbors to inform them of the proposal, with the that this be done early in the process. indicating well, they Commission with the suggestion 2. Pope, 642-9200 Bob Pope was in to discuss the possibilities of expanding the Wilbert-Chandler Vault Company. Bob noted that they need more space and reorganization of their space, and that addi- tional parking would be involved in the plant renovation. Bob notes that the Wilbert-Chandler people have six plants in the area, of which the one in Roseville is the principal plant. The building has been added to several times, and the layout is not efficient, in part due to the reorienting of the truck access to the south versus �the original access they had at one time from the north. , . � � Planning Office Hours September 16, 1987 Page 2 � I suggested that it might be wise for them to move, rather than invest more money in a plant that cannot be made to work well. I suggested that a discussion with the plant owners might be helpful, with the intent that if an acceptable reuse of the land could be found, the City might be helpful in assisting them to move to a better site for their purpose, and thus eliminate this industrial zone in this part of the City. I noted the problems of the last proposal relating �to the proposed bulk and height of the buildings, and the uncertain- ties of the Library land needs in the area. It would seem a shame to perpetraten�thatsma�fnotlsolveuth�1problemcfore the yet another additio Y user, or the neighborhood as a whole. 3. Bundlie, 482-7656 Craig Bundlie is expanding his home, and has received approval for and is building a swimming pool in the side yard. Through the shoreline zoning review, the Council approved the pool being one foot, six inches from the side lot line. They now propose to enclose the pool, which would pl.ace a structure within that dist�nce. � I suggested at least six building, and the side yard this basis. � that he obtain an easement from his neighbor of feet, so that he would be able to maintain �his on that basis a variance could be consi.dered to setback. He is going to pursue a solution on 4. Seltz, 296-7801 John Seltz is the buyer of the designated park land off Woodlyri Avenue in the far northeast corner of the City. This parcel of about seven acres is a narrow strip of high land on the east side. John �roduced a series of drawings ill�zs- trating various possibilities for development with frozn t.wo to eight units on the sitee Sing�le family lots are propos��d, with a PoU.D. an�. private street access. I not�d that the land, family lot, and that might be reasonable. units might adversely the narrowness of the areas to the west will as it exists, is an eligible single division of the land into two parc��ls I noted that the development of more affect the neighbors and, because of land, that a roadway and developable be diff icult . Dave Janisch noted that it would be highly desirable to loop the water system, and that the cost for this would likely have to be borne by the development. Mr. Seltz is going to consider further options, and get some professional hel� regarding costs and design. r1 LJ � • Planning Office Hours September 16, 1987 � Page 3 5. Melby, 633-7509 Steve Mel�y runs a body shop and car repair business on the far west end of the office warehouse building at 2605 North Fairview. He calls his company "Cars Company." He has placed a 4 x 8 plywood sign out on Fairview, or near Fair- view, noting the location of his business. Gordie Beseth has informed him that this is illegal, inasmuch as it constitutes a second pylon sign on the site. I contacted Ron Backes, of the Shelard Company, who manages the property. I suggested to P�on that he find some method of solvinq this problem, short af a second pylon. I suggested a sign on the building, or some method of identifying an address. Ron said he would work somethirzg out to hopefully solve the problem. 6. Seaberg, 542-1030 Dan �eaberg is �he �on of Joyce and George Seaberg. George was a long time civic activist and School Board member who died in 1972. A few years ago Mrs. Seaberg requested, and the City approved, a rezoning for a parcel between Fairview and �heeler for a duplex. They now wish to divide this property, though not likely immediately. I noted that if they don't intend to use the newly created lot immediately, they may wish to delay it until such time as they do. The taxes on a sepa.rate parcel would, of course, be applied when the division is recorded. All the lots to the south of this parcel have been similarly divided, so the division in itself is not a�roblem. They may wish to consider a rezoning for a duplex on the west end of this lot as we11 (facing Fairview). I noted th� procedures and regulations relating to rezoning from R-1 to R-2, and the policies of the City regarding such development. 7. Peterson Dave Janisch and I met with John Peterson, representative of the developers of the Rosepointe Senior Citizen's site (former Carbone site) and John Akriba, architect from Milo Thompson's office, to review a slight change in the landscap�ng plan on the south side of that site. They propose to retain some of the existing vegetation, and move the same amount of vegetation further to the north. They also discussed with Dave a method of draining this area other than filling it, so as to be able to retain some of the natural sumac and other shrubbery in the area. � noted, however, that in the areas where shrubbery and tree growth is not being maintained, that the area would have to be sodded. In other words, there should be no area where they are simply leaving it growing into weeds. Thus, approval was given to the moving of the shrubbery of the existing planting �lan to the north, and the retention of the existing tree growth. 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Rein, Compan , 455-7100 Dennis Cavanaugh, of C. G. Rein, was in to discuss their interest in th.e possible purchase and development of the George Reiling property northerly of the Civic Center site (northwest corner Woodhill and Lexington Avenue), consisting of a t�tal of forty-four acres, a portion of which is zoned shopping center and a portion zoned R-2. We agreed the appropriate use would be for principa�ly multi- famil� housing, which is the form of development they are interested in pursuing. Dennis noted that they ar^. able to pay $3,500 per unit for land (the normal going rate in much af the metropolitan area), and would anticipate faurteen units per acre, I suggestecl that with a variety of housing forms, seventeen unit� per acre might be more appropriatP. He agreed, but noted i:hat Mr. Reiling wants $3.75 per square foot, and thus to develop the land for multi-family purposes � at this time would require a write-down. Craig Waldron explained a possib].e write-down scenario, with tax increment income after the fact (rather than up fron� bonding). T suggest�d that an innovative housing designed approach would be important on this, one of the �ast xemaining signi- ficant housing areas available iri the City. I also noted the requirement for ten percent park dedication, which might be incorporated in a unique recr�ational facility in cooperation with the City and private ownership. I suggested he hire the best design tale�t, if they proceed, to achiev� an imagina- tive solution. Mr. Cavanaugh agreed with this basic approach. He is going to pencil out some numbers and get back to Craig, and continue meetings with Mr. Reiling, which he notes he has already begun. The Cv G. Rein people are one of a small group of developers who could successfully clevelop the property. Some single family housing would be developed contiguous to the existing single family on the north edge, with a variety of multi- family housing types for the remainder. 2. C. G. Rein Company, 455-7100 Whi1e into discuss the Reiling property, we also reviewed ! with Dennis Cavanaugh ather multi-family housing options in the area. He has looked and is interested in the Bus�e site westerly of St. Albans, north of Larpenteur. This is a site we discussed with the Busse estate last week. r I � ) � Planning Office Hours Page 2 September 9, 1987 • Mr. Cavanaugh noted th at he would be interested in purchasing the two Linden properties to the east up to St. Albans. I noted the possibility of a single family development along St. Albans in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan, inas- much as there are single family houses facing St. Albans on the east sirle already. We talked about the relevant proce- dures and density and planning criteria for this area, as wel� as some of the ather available multi-family housing s�tes in Roseville. 3. Cartwright, 920-9734 Dick Cartwright and�his partner, Terry Foster, were in from Financial Networks, Inc., to review the possible use of a single far�ily home for office puxposes at the northwest corner of ChatswQrth and Larpenteur. Terry Foster is Presi- d�nt ot Financial Networks, Inc., which is a mortgage broker company, at 7100 France Avenue South in Edina. They have four to five employees, and propose to convert the house for their own office purpos�s. Dick Cartwright has lived on Park�r Avenue in Roseville since 1974. They noted that this house has 1,400 square feet on two floors, and is on a lot of 115 feet by 178, measuring 20,470 square feet. T explained that the use of the land ior office � purposes would require rezoning to B-1, and that the impact on the neighborhood and the neighbors' concerns could be an imgortant f�ctor in the decision. I also noted that it is the City's policy not to strip zone Larpenteur Avenue, and that the replacing of housing with business is also generally no�t favored. I noted, too, that the handling of parking on the site would be a significant factor and could create probl�ms for the contiguous residential pro�erty to the north. I suggested that they may wish to discuss the idea with residents in the area before proceeding any further, realizing that the general approach is not favored by general City policy. 4. Karalis, 920-4719 Peter Karalis was in wi.th Ray Dana, who pro ose to be ners in the development of the Kath p Part- Ace's gas station at Lexington and PRoselawnS�utM�astKaralis pointed out the history of his dealings with Ace res�arding the re�noval and rebuilding of a new station for him as a part of a new retail development fea�turing a convenience grocery store of 4,000 to 6,000 square feet, with a deli and other uses, including automobile repair. This would involve then a Special Use Permit for a gas station and auto repair, and a Special Use Permit for parking in a B-1 area (part of the � land is zoned B-1). The land is zoned B-2 and B-1. I encouraged Peter and Ray to continue to try to work with Ace to make this a better redevelopment. The other option is to leave Ace as a separate entity. '. � • Planning Office Hours September 9, 1987 Page 3 5. Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell was back with Jerry Kaufhold following the recom- mended denial of his proposal by the Planning Commission at its last regular meeting. They propose to revise thc.ir plan and present it at a subsequent Council meeting. Changes include: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. A proposal to reduce the separate structure from 30,Q00 square feet to 20,000 square feet. To propose a parking strip on the east side of the existing ball field. Divide the two-story building on the corner from the rest of the land. Propose a B-2 zon� instead of the B-3. Propose a ten percent area of park at the southwest corner of the site and continue to offer more for sale. 6. Defer payments by the City if they elect to purchas� property. � He noted that they would gain August 8, 1988, and that they�intend�to�� the property on irrespective of Planning Commission or Councilcactionh� land i suggested that the expansive zoning propos�d was not likely to be achieved, because it cannot be supported basea3 on the scale of zoning in the cvntiguous areas. I noted that fzom the beginning we recommended two things: � 1. That he is paying too much for the land and shouZd offer less, and 2. A portion of the land should be g,�ven to the City, of at� least two acres, so as ta solve th� cammunity n�ed problem. I further suggested that under the current condi��.onsy his best option would be to drop the land rather than attempt to play "hard ball" with the City, where in this case tk�e Ci�y has inal.ienabl� rights. 6. Truax, 553-0171 Bob Truax aw s in wi�h Dan S�,Qck, wh� �ropose to develop a weight lifting gym at 2434 Priox Avenue, in 8,300 squa.�� feet of spaG� in that office warehouse bt�ilding. Their operation, which has sev�ral. locations in the Twin Cities including their most recent 14,D00 square foot space in Plymouth, also wholesales weight Iifting equipment in about 1,000 square feet of space. 0 Planning Off ice Hours Page 4 September 9, 1987 . p, gym is a special use in the industrial district, so th�y will be applying for a Special Use Permit at the November meeting of the Planning Commission. This developmen.t appears to be appropriate inasmuch as their peak hours are 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m., which will be compatible with the peak hours of use of other users in a typical office warehouse building. 7. O'Connor, 770-6799 Richard O'Connor and Rick Coleman were in to review their continued use of the Murphy Truck Terminal for truck terminal purposes at 2286 Terminal Road. It would appear helpful to conti.nue the use of this site as a truck terminal �or a period of time until th�omo�hedeed��bl�contiguous�cto S35W5 are developed further Obviousl�, this is ira the City's interest to de�relop the prime sites recently zoned to the office district �long 35W tirst. The Murphy Truck Terminal has been determined not to have been closed down long enough for it to haWe lost 3.ts Special Use P�rmit status. I� zs not a noncon�ortning use• The proposal is �o use a portion of the t�rminal for shipp�.ng barrels of salvag� metal, whicl� �s collected in barrels €rom many �f the comput�x operatians around th�.s �ark of the country, The Gontainers �re r�c�iv�d at tl�� terminal by � truck, and shi�ped �u�t t4 the smelt�rs by truck. No storage will occur outside, and na m��a�S is�ebasaca�.l�� a�atruck containers. Thus, the ape terminal facility. 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Bj �+x�. �g� � �� p -�N06 �� _f �ts..,_rL. .!�t-- Gi ��t . � �.��y�...� � ; �LFr.� �� s -"„ �». nas ",� .. ..,..,,,,�. _ _ ,�, . ,� � � w � r � � _,�:. ��. � _�.. �-�� ` . � y�_�� .:'a___�— „ -..,._ � � < p t � _' 'f� 'A� �...« w��..� . .. i '� - + � � g� i�Y32l1.._._.'.t �,,,,t..u:+�... ._ _ .s •'+ <,1li� J�..._ REVtSED DATE P '�`7 )C� � -�� s� :.��-`�'� l 2•�•72 �1 ��_ � ��ta-m��..J�� " r----o--_.�---^�.--- M:6;. x � !O � st �� 2 � 13 a� �4 �.tr-n N '�_-��_rr �-� � '�'��''`� �� .. r 3�:0 �! � _ - A1 •�.�•• �000 B u„--= tl�9 —� �. � ;— D _ :.b� = E 3l �( �� J�F � � G -� H _ :,"o i —� � J �� tQ � RT � 1 .�` _ L �- c h' �t :� - .—i...�v�,._� � � 4_. _ - -, , � _ _. � _ _ �.�. ,..o i �� i �� .� �'��f �, ��f �I a� � . �� a ; �� 2� =1 • � V � � September 10, 1987 T0: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFIC� HOURS, SEP'�EM��R 2� 19$7 1. Busse, 4��-1610 Rick �usse wa� in wi�h h�s brother-in-law John Ott, who are members o£ th� �state of Grace and Carl eusse, former owners of a 4.68 �cre tract at 72S west Larpenteur. There are six children sharing 3n t�e �stat�, and tih� objectiv� here is to eith�r d�velop the l,and tt�emselvcs or, pr�ferab�.y, s�ll the land for cievelopm�n�. Y� any event, they wish to turn the land portion of th� estate into cash. Rick not�s tha� hi� brath�r Mik� sent out a flyer to devel- opers �:nnou�cing the �vsilsb;ility of thQ land, and got no takers. Th�y hav� dis�ussed th� prap�rty with som� dev�lapt�rs in Rr�s�ville. The pxap��ty, �s indi�a�er� on the Compr�E��n�iv� Plan, is � m�diu�r+ density rosiden�ial, �nd �,he nartherl� poxtion of thQ land is w�tl�r�ds, � nated tt�� it u�rould app�er obvious that th� land could proha�ly b�s� � dav�lop�d with tha c�ntigt►ous pxQp�rty �rhich is ownes3 by Walt�r I,ind�r, at 929 t+►Qst Larpent�u� Avenue. Toge�t��r, �h�s� two sites could croat� a l�.keiy de��log�ment patea�tial wh3.�h c�uYd take the form of s�ngl� f�mil�r homes aac, �erhaps, townhc�uses. I sugg�sted th�t th� C�.�y �ould r��ponci to �a w�ll done pl€� ansi, t�a� as in�x�ri�nc�c� d�v�loper�s p�rhaps their bcst bcat mignt be to att�mp� to fine3 a sale. I sugg�ested �h�y rnight consid�r a r�ai�or to achiev� this �bj�ct,fve. � They not�r� tk�at conv�rsation w�,th Mr. Ginder sugg�st�d that �►e is nc�� interest�+d in d�uelo�m�n�. I suc�g�sG�d �hat, ��r�ap�, th� two par�i�s me� wi�h to come to Cit�r Hal� �a simp�.y di��us� ti�� pa�ssibiliti�s, noting th�t khe stafE is h�r� to as�ist� in an�r way w� c�;n �o h�lp ehe �andown�rs if k��y wish. I also noted the merit o� providing alternativ� h4u��ng ty�aes, and that though sir�gl� famil�► developm�nt is prop�rd it isn't nec�ssmrily the b��t �olution in th�.s ca�e. �h�y ar� going to s�� if th�y cari get togeth€r with Mr. Lind�r, and pos�ilbly com� to CiCy Hall €or a further ciiscus- sion. 2. Bixby, 63�.-1850 8i11 Bixby, CEO of th� Etting�r Transf�r Company, was in to discuss the ps�ss�.bl� use of thei.r excess lanci on the �ast side contiguous to the tracks on the land south of County Road C. �ie noted alsa that the Ettinger people are possibly int�rested in selling the entir� site ta an investor, and leasing portions of the property back for �heir purposes. . Office Planni � ng Hours September 2, 1987 CJ Page 2 � Mr. Bixb s ' Y aid that the Budget Rent-a-Truck people are inter- ested in the land, although they could not afford to put in the proper asphalt and curb as required by City ordinance. I suggested that doing the job half way wou�.d probably be difficult to get approved in Roseville, inasmuch as others have been required to do so, including their competition with the Hertz-Penske Truck Rental development further to the west on County Road C(where everything has been done according to code). T further suggested that selling off the eas�terl pQrhaps is not wise inasmuch as for the ultimate 1�ngp�ran�ge redev��opment of land, having it altogether would be advan�a- qeous. There is an existing 6,000 square foot building on the easterly site which Ettinger's are not now using. �e also noted that one of the potAntial users of th� site fo� a year or two is Strict Leasing Company, which occupies �he southwest corner of Long Lake Road and County Road C where the Heri�age Inn d@velopm�nt has b�en approved. I noted that getting the Strict people off that site woulci b� in th� City's interest, and that a short rang� �se of his land for that purpose might be workable. Th� lcasing of trucks is a special use in th� �.ndustrial � �a�e, gnd thus could b� controlled with a time �imitation, M�• Bixby is going to consider the possibilities discussed, and g�t back Co the City later. 3• Flann�rv, 771-2Z58 Jerry Flannery is a g�neral contractor }�uilding a gara e z�ddition to a� existing house at 21U1 County Road n. This is � one hundred foot lot which provid�s acc��s to a larger parcel to the north, wh�re the garage wi11 be �onstructed. This prop�rty has frontage on the servic� road on the west of C1�veland Avenue, and ,is a sep�rate lot. H� groposes �o huild a s�parate thr�e car garage southwesterly of the �o�sed house, which has an existing "tuck uncier Pro- will be conv�rt�d to a fam3.ly raom. �� 9arage whici� Th� proposed Yard for the thus do�s not � garage site appears obviously to be in the r�a� lot on which the garage is to be placed, and r�qui�e a variance. � 1 NI ..., _,. `y � v .--f . v �-1 .y ._.1. v '�_ ��.. 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Lido's 636-9721 Craig Waldron and I met with John Labalestra and his archi- tect from Pope Associates at the restaurant site to review their proposals for adding a screen fence around the top of the Lido to screen the roof top mechanical equipment. A perspective drawing had been prepared, indicating a wrought iron fence to be mounted on the coping. We discussed the color, and decided that it should be painted light to match the f lashing that exists on the front elevation detail. The mechanical equipment will be painted a rose color, similar to the building masonry. The wrought iron fence detail is intended to distract instead of totally screen the equipment as one would do with a wood fence. We agreed that if this is not effective when it is completed, additional metal panels could be added behind the wrought iron fence, if necessary. This procedure will not be cheap but, I think, will enhance the building with a quality touch, and can be used effectively for decorating at Christmas time. 2. McDonough, 731-2145 David McDonough was in with John Sirny, architect, to con- sider a location for a restaurant and nightcluband haslhadn�a runs Royal Downs Bowling Center in Woodbury, background in hotel and restaurant management with Holiday Inn in Nashville, Milwaukee, and Stevens Point, Wisconsin. They inquired as to the possibility of remodeling the Euro- pean Spa Health Club. I noted the B-1 zoning that applies to that land and its proximity to the single family areas, and the likely difficulty of rezoning the land for a"nightclub." We discussed other locations, zoning regulations, and appli- cable requirements. They will be looking around, and likely not proceed with an application for the European Spa property. I informed them of the neighborhood meeting requirement prior to a rezoning application as well. 3. Willmus, 633-5701 Tom Willmus was in with his son John, and Dick Marhula. Tom owns a total of about 7.7 acres on three sites south of the Holiday Inn to the Trailmobile site. This includes an office warehouse, the old Nino's site, and the open property at the southeast corner of County Road B-2 and Cleveland. He wanted to review what's happening in the area, and the City's per- spective regarding ultimate uses for his property . . Planning Office Hours August 26, 1987 • • Page 2 We discussed the comprehensive plan and the City's policy encouraging redEvelopment of business related uses in this area. I suggested the three properties might be developed in concert, including the possibility of a parking ramp and, perhaps, a skyway over County Road B-2 to connect the properties. He is structuring his leases so that the property would be av�ilable approximately in 1991. He is cognizant of the new assets of the location now that the bridge is com- plete. We agreed it is appropriate to get ready for a major redevel- opment within the next four years, which might likely include redevelopment of all three parcels, involving removal of the existing structures. 4. Kaufhold, 483-6701 Jerry Kaufhold was in with Tom Dunwell to review their latest adjustments to the Lexington School site plan. They produced a drawing showing Bob Bierscheid's suggestion for a small "L" shaped neighborhood park, which is his preferred plan in the event a dedicated park was only involved. Mr. Kaufhold noted his reduced interest in constructing the three story building in the previous plan. He noted that he feels he cannot dedicate additional land to enhance the City's park position, Mr. Bierscheid noted the Park Board's desires as follows: 1. Would prefer, if possible, to keep the open space as it is. 2. 3. Park, as proposed, with dedication at purchase would be too small to warrant a purchase. If given a park of several acres, the City would likely take it. 4. If ten percent shaped plan at preferred. of the land only is used for park, the "L" the southwest corner of the site would be Mr. Kaufhold nated his offer to buy back the two acre park made up of the dedication and purchase by the City at $125,000. The buy back figure would be $225,000 within two years. Mr. Bierscheid noted that such a buy back provision is not really appropriate inasmuch as once a decision is made to have the park, that would likely be the end of the matter. We reviewed with Messrs. Kaufhold and Dunwell the City's long-term policy with respect to expanded commercial business � zoning on Lexington Avenue, and the risks of zoning all the frontage on County Road B to the B-3 District. I suggested that irrespective of the park issues, that the zoning issue is also crucial. . ' Planning Office Hours August 26, 1987 • • LJ � Page 3 too, that if the project is turned down, other I noted, oints in time with buyers will likely emerge at reasonable pnvolve residential ro osals which may, perhaps, and thus other P p the use of the open space density, This zoning involving ortions of such space•for the provide for retention °fo�fer a better opportunity scenario would, of course, cash. City to retain the open space without investing 636-7406 gradford Schools out of 6, Siegel� Slegel, representing He noted Chris for a Roseville site. Pittsburgh, was back looking ood about that one of his principles Wheirnprogramnaallstfor classroom the Lexington School site. T and on-site housing f or some of trecallaenformerlylsthe space as you will a secretarial school, Which currently operates in Minneapolis School of Busineast of Herschel Street. Roseville on County Road B, a rees that excess land not M�edBderscheid was Mr. Siegel g facilities will be dedicatedand weetalked about theBn�bednoted present at this conference, and tl�at it otential area of land that 5�Shtisesabstandard, p as it exi , ark but that the ballfield, mi ht be appropriate to retallf ieldnisgsubstandard in that 9 without the ballfield. The the base lines are too short at 265 feet. Ce being I emphasized the asset of the public open spa to the Bradford School site, asaintain bituseChris contiguous ti�e:�r having to m the students without �an be made f or nd noted that thvir school shut�5down between 3:0 agreed, a and that arrangemen p,m, and 4:30 p.m., in on their site that the commuter students woul public park g normally use. are now going to proceed to examine the sit�ealize cthat They et back to the City later. They fully, and g revious proposal. their proposal follows a p One of th e assets of the Bradford Sc!��ool Whereptalsschool �is of the land would remain zoned R-�, nces for and portions of land would hsitetresideoned for permit�ed, housing to accommodate on multi-family by the way, are girls who run students. These students, u h a concentrated ten mQnth progra�oblems�onstheir other thro g do not have behavior p that they simply campus sites. �, MacTavish 871-5615 Ian M�cTavish is an architect with PaoteslthatnthesSshopping architects for Pavilion P1ace. an n center is now owned by Real Equity, Inc•► who purchased it from Jcre We�ss, the oriqina�. developer out of Rochester. • Plannin Office Hours g August 26, 1987 Ian was in to talk about their two signs are allowed for the shopping add square fo��tage ta the shopping east corner of County Road B-2 existing sign has 146 square feet, allowed. We agreed that this can tions. • Page 4 pylon signs. Three pylon center. They propose to center pylon at the north- and America Street. The whereas 200 square feet is be done within the regula- I suggested further that rather than add a third pylon (as they have a right to do), it would be better to request the Planning Commission and Council for a slight increase in the existing pylon if necessary. Their intent here is to post the names of the restaurants in the site of which currently there is one, the Ediner. 8. Franke 636-5500 �ill Franke was in with Bob Vanney, architect, to review some preliminary sit� plans for the use of the residences east of Hamline, south of the Wilbert-Chandler Vault Company. This design indicates a three-story stone and glass building oriented toward Hamline Avenue, with two access drives to Hamline Avenue, and ongrade parking. We reviewed again our concerns regarding library expansion � and future library plans. Their site plan developed the land immediately contiguous to the present library site. The library decision, as you know, is still up in the air. I suggested that no commitments should be made for private land use until the library site solution is determined, that being obviously in the public interest. 9. Mara, 780-5756 Chris Mara owns LeGran Homes, a builder for a new propased house for George Wintz. This house will be on Lake Josephine. We reviewed the preliminary site plan, noting additional material that should be added to the plan, such as topography and tr�es, for review �or shor�line devel.opment approval. The house is very large, with a basketball c4urt in the basement! As far as we know, that is a first for Roseville, and perhaps for many other suburbs as well. The house appears to fit the development regulations, except that the final distance to the shoreline may Iae slightly less than 75 feet. We also discussed the front yard setback, and noted that the setback of the contiquous property should be shown inasmuch as in this case, the setback may be required to be more than 30 feet. Mr. Ma�a will be revising and completing the plan, and will be back tor shoreline revi�w. �J . ' � � Planning Office Hours Page 5 August 26, 1987 • 10. Schroyer, 546-1508 Dave Schroyer was in with Fred Bloom, of the Kolstad Company, manufacturer of truck bodies in Roseville. This company builds new truck bodies for people like Coca Cola Distributing Company in Roseville, with ':.he vast majority of the bodies being custom made for individual customers. Occasionally they will sell a truck and take one in trade, although they are not in the business of renting or distributing trucks or truck bodies. 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P � =. . . - . ; �( �: �. � . : .- � - � � - �' a __ _. _ .. __-,.-.-.+ � j f � • 6__� µ �(--�`� � ff � � i- — �. � ... (! wt ^ � ' �� a ��R.. r�� _. �w ....,..�,�,...._ •�� `. ..�� __ «� !�, r� �'� ._�� a � � � 1 ♦ .. . . . t4tQ � �a ____.t _` .. + . . _.... � �— "�"« �� ao l�] ��.��:;�_��_.._�:��;�_�� _ .�� _, 3 _" . , :� _"�. . j � C REVISEO DATE �Q��:L_.,��( 6�r:�(`�� I �II ��1! II �;I I �� t- � - �: ss — — — — ---••---,•---••--••---, I i il � � � � � t�6n • x � �Q �� 3 �, �� (� S� �� .�i) �� XI 1 V � �9 �� O •I � � � August 26, 1987 � TO: FROM: SUBJECT: �.J � Jim Andre Howar�i Dahlgren PLANN:NG OFFiCE HOURS, AUGUST 19, 1987 1. Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell. was in with review the status of Lexington School site. and had reviewed some tive, and was with us Kaufhold proposal. Jerry Kaufhold and his attorney to their development proposal for the Bob Bierscheid had joined us earlier, of the park issues from his perspec- during the dicussions regarding the I not�ed firstly that the "burden of proof" is on the appZi- cant to propose a land use and effectuation method that the City may find appropriate and��acQ�Cernlof areaacitiz�ns��the fications. Being aware of t planning Commission and, tids�ut aheirebest�foottforwardcas (from their memo), they shou p they see fit. I emphasized the long-'t@smst�m�as�istpracticable,retiinSua�s much of the recr�atidnal y ges��d th�y may wisfi to c�nsider dedicating �pproximately a two acre parc�l without asking �l�e City t� buy a portion of it, It seems to us that the ensuing land valu�s bas�d on �he zoning pattern proposed would justify that approach. I also noted that the land��@maid�,�sp�ectivettofn th��ppark constitutes a separate pr issu�. I not�d the City's long time policy to not �xp�ni commerc�a7. zoning or 2ausin�ss zoning on Lexington Av�nue. noted, too, that �h� B-3 District proposed far muci� of the land is th� City's l�gs� �riskiforVfu�ur�nusedor��the� site thus invalv�s consid�rable from �h� City's pc�sp�ctive. l�r. Bier��h�id noted a p�ssibl� minimal park sc�lution, where- by th� dedication of land would occur on thc stre�t fronta9e at the southw�st corn�r ofu�@d For�local��otalotWanddpossible a narrow "I�" shaped st�ip skatin� ar�a, buk with no play fi�ld gs such. This, af course� u�urps the str��maindEraof�the�land�may b� use�l�ms with respect to how th� Mr, �caufhald proposed that the Ci.ty buy the land as he �f- fered �o s�ll, and th�� he would agree to Y�Purchas� the land for $225,000 within two ��ars time if the City so d�s�red. This, in his opinion, would give the Ci�versus getting�the the use of the land and its desirabil�.ty, park contribution in cash plus the�.r �125,000 back. • � � • Planning Office Hours August 19, 1987 r� � Page 2 I noted in conclusion, as indicated in previous meetings, that from the City's perspecti��e, the reuse of existing buildings is the least desirable solution. The best solution for the City would be that of a develc�per who woulc� tear down the structures, build new and, hopefully, innovative d�velop- ment with a likely pregonderance of multi-familY re�idential uses, wherein the density for the open spac� could be t�ans� ferred, allowing for the retention af the parkland as was done in the Lee School site in Robbinsdal�. They are going to contemplate their ogtions, and meet again next week to review possibilities. 2. Mueller, 887-6100__ Homer Mueller and Bud Kaupp are with Super Atnerica, and w'�xe in to review the revised plan for their expans�or�, ap�prov�d by th� City several months ago, to the�.z� store at th� r�orkh- east corn�r of County Road B and L�xington. Their revised plan is very similar ta th� original plar�s, except that thc width of the asphalt parking ar�a (east/w��t) is r�duced from ov�r 72 feet to 62 feet. "�he net cff�ct is to have slightly le�s asphalt and more grass o�n the �ast �►ad nor�h side. This r�du�ces thE amount of fi�.l to b�z t�k�a� �ut, but le�ves the s�cond driv�way moved �as��rly oxactiy as ap��av�d in the original plan. 3, t�elson 333-6515 John Nelson, w�ith Eab Boblet� Associa�es, ��ltoxs, was in �ca discuss po�sible locations for � mini-st�or�gc �ite in Ros�vixl�. �i� �nguireci as to the apPropriataness of �ha I�nnoco sitc ( just w�est of th�c Mcrit��ge Inr� site) far su�ch a f�cility. I suggestecY that � star�ge �acilit� in Ro��v�.11� rhould bc 1Qc�ted furthcr west, away �rcam the hi�h priori�y �rea� at the intersection c�� Long Lake Rcaad and Coun�y koad C. T encc�u�ac�ed consid�r�tian of a mult�-floor �to��ae t�p� f�ci].i�y ��t4�er thac� the r��usl c�uster o� "g�r�;ge units."' Ne a�lsca no��c3 he t�as a buy�r le�aking fat � h�g�h �nd �a�h,�on store of 8, 2+D0 sc�u�ore feet. I poin�ed out $reas in the C�i�� wher� such retail dev�lo�ment would be �ppropria�e, i no'tod tha� the Amac� sit� wovld k�� appropriat� for �uch a use, an+d oth�r areas eastcrly along County Road G. A. RuvelsQn, 78�-91_AS Tom Auvelson and Marg�r�t Myer w�►�e ir� from th� "Sign �onsuly tants," a Twi�n Ci�i.es si�n comp�ny. �hey wer� ingu3ring as �o signag� f�r th� Slumberlarad b�ildin�, suggesti�_g $ py��o� in adclit�.on to the wall si�ns approved as a p�rt �f th� P.U.D. I noted �irmly that no pylon �a,s propos�d or �pprov�d, ar�d that tn� Special Use Permit was approv�d on th@ basi� ot the plans subm�.tt�d. A pylne� sign was di.�cuss�d, and noted ta be not included in th� proposal. � 'ce Haurs i�lanna.ng Offi August 19, 1987 Page '. Mr. Ruvelson suggested that he was not proper�.y informed, and would abide by the limitations of the approved plan. 5. Dargontina, 473-3944 Jim Dargantina is with MCS (Management Consulting Service Company), and inquired as to the possibility o£ converting an existing warehouse building at 14�0 County Road C to a furni- ture stor�. I sugge�te�l that conversion oi the bui�.ding to r�tail coulc�, We�,Z p��Ge a par�cinq problem� and was not cor�t�mpla�ed as a retail a�°�a. He likec� ti�e idea beca�se th� bu�ldinc� could be conver��d cheaply�. We felt that would not ?ae in best int�x- ��ts of t?�e Citg�, and sugg�s��d th�t h� s�ek oth�� retail �i��. 5. Murlow��i 633-6�45 di��ss��g a N4a�� Murlow�k w�s in with Tom Lyn�h, axch�itac�, d�v�lopment propc��m� �o divid� the triRnqult�� h��l 1p$rcel just w�st� of t�he ��mcks, so�t+�h of C�unty Road C. Thi� divi- �ion r��uid cr�a�� ccc�mr�adation fpr ��udc�e� t�uck r�nta�. sita, galus �n og?�ic� �+��a�hou�� b�ail�i�►c�y "�h� +�at�l ��te i� 3. �� c��, Uu� +�3ae c3i�i�ior� a$ pro�a�� would! crQ�t� a� l��g, na��o�v �� g�n�ra��,l� �6�ut rsr�Q h�r►cisc�d � fc�a�, ona �►� wt�ich w�u�d � oncr huc�dra��i f��C i�y ��m� �i� '�u�ci�c�� . ��i�h�� f �t�Q u�c�� r� a�tr�c�iv� in �1�Q �c�tosso �ha� ��+�y ��e not �or� ,�n�c�n�iv� �r hi�h�r c��l��y �r�$, an� �h� �and divi�ion d�d s�ot �11a� �nou;�h wia��r �o �� c� �a��a��de ��Qn +�h� ��pro��cia�cs ��h�c��. I �u��t�d �t�� hsa dlxari��o�r �� prs��Q� +�+�uls� �a�rc� � a�+��sa- ��ri.a�u� e�v��a�l1 a��e�, ,��d t�� w+ou�d not �e in +�h� �i�y"� t a� th� lar��c�wc�e��r !� i in�� Q�t� t� �c� �a. �la�k a�� n �c�t��+�cz� ghc��c� �or��rr►�, ��d ��d +�h�y w�u�d� �p�►ro�►ch +�tre��► �sr �a�o�h�r c�ir�c�ian, 7. IDt�l�� 31-55��_ Gre�c� ��es� �a� �Mcz � r��r� �r� r�u�h o� �hc� "�wih �'1+�� c�a� �ar L,��a Cae��r' ��, ar�� n�c� 1�� Q��tvs�n �uc� �u��Q�� i� fi,�S ��SliCt1��Q 8i'�"�, W�' j�1�U�D�Q� CG2 C��Q ��1� ��IRiQ� �� onue Shop �� th+� na��hQ��t �orr�a� �a� Fe�n�c��c'1 ��i ��i��` �a�� , �ndl �or��rc�r� i�� Lietl� ��c��a�c `� �i�c�, Th�� bu,�ltli�a� ha� �., �� u�r� �a��. A��1 Li��lc� C��cs��' � st��p wauld i��vQ �, , 20� ��are �d�t, anc3 +dc�a� na� ir�clu��s �i�-cD�wn ��tirac�. Thcr� #.s �o �'.�riv� tt��ouc�� ar�d r�� dQ].iv�r�►, �his .��, tt�en, � �a�ar�c�ut ��eilit�r whieh ��qui�Qs a Sp�cial llse Pa�mit in tl�at �on�rtg dis�rict. �M� builc�ing d�r�� k�uilt ir� 197�. The ?�uildin�i �nd la�td 1s �' c�wn�d by t�9�. Krann�ck. We di�cussed tt�o �ite �ondit�ons, p�rkinq, and �ccess. It ap�Pe�xs th�t this k�uil�ing would be w�ll ad�pt�d t� reus� for th� pizxa pxopo��l, for which � Sp�ci�1 �Js� Pormi.t wi�.l b� ��quirod. � Planning Office Hours August 19, 1987 Page 4 � �r, DeWeese notes that ninety-five percent of their business comes over the telephone, most of it over the evening dinner hour. Fifteen to twenty percent of the business is typically lunch time. The menu includes pizza, salads, and � � at sandwiches. g. Olson,� 489-1655 Walt�r and LuciJle Olson did own Lots 30 through 35 on the nortt�west side of Lak� Owasso, off West I�ake Owas�o Boul�vard. They had previously sold I.�ots 30 and 35, each of which were approv�d by the City. These are one hundred foot lots, and thus meet minimum 1oQ move thendriaeway itoi�thc�ir parcels. The}� now pro�c�se t hous� t� mak� it po�sible to sc13� Lot 34. t��ve Jani��h r�v.�e�+�d �aith �ewa r�9ana��p�oc��s�ing�forran fox pe�mi�� to movc �he dri Y� addi�ic�nal lat s�p�it . g, B��a�� 546--1�08 Fr�d Blomm p�opa��s to be a d�a�e� in sem,��t�uck t�ail�r� in ca�n�unctian �+ith thc Kolsted Campan� on w�lnu� �t�eet�, wi�h wlro�m a�a s�)ce ��v�� waak� �go �ec�ardin�g �xP�►�s,�an of �hci� bu�i�Q�� s� '�hat �i+�e. �tol�tatl��p�� o��sC�ha��thc��a�so a�nd, �E cours�, �Q�.�s thc�m. t,�k4 in ��n ��ila�s ir� t�eael� ane�� +�hus, thQy �oo a�o in �ht� ��a��c�r salcs 1��n��. 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M � �� `i � i. `' �'' � � ��' �y w� �� r� ^ F • � i I _ _ . _.�:._ , � =�� ' �' I r� p.•..r �� _� .�. - .__-.�_�__. , �'' � - Eq !. _ , .: : �.. - . �_ .: ;i � � ,�� at� ��: �" b<� � � a� o ..�� .s;:: ., at� :� � i :� �2 �,li i3 �J i� � �� s� �� i%� �� s � i9 :� 20 �� F; � August 19, 1987 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, AUGUST 12, 1987 1. Grilz, 484-0174 Mrs. Robert Grilz proposes to establish a Chilaren's Day Care for the care of infants at 774 West County Road B. This residence is owned by her brother, who has lived there a considerable length of time. Her brother's name is Glen Spexet. Mrs. Grilz currently takes care of several infants in her home, but also works nights at the Golden Age Nursing Home. She proposes to stop working two jobs, and enlarge her infant care program, and stop working at the Golden Age Nursing Home. She has been in touch with the State licensing people . I exp�ained the procedures and regulations, emphasizing the iimportance of the neighborhood contact and the requirement that there be a neighborhood meeting prior to any public hearings. She noted that she knows all the neighbors well, and may decide to proceed with an application. She is thinking of running it with no employees, and having four to five young children at the site. 2. Baake, 805-683-4613 Randy Baake is a Project Manager for Motel 6, who propose to redevelop the Victoria Station site for a one hundred twelve unit Motel 6 development. We reviewed a site plan which we had seen previously, indicating a 1.86 acre site, with one hundred twelve units, and one hundred fifteen parking spaces. They are contemplating Spring construction. We have been discussing with them, over a period of time, a�propriate building mater�als. Their initial proposal was a wooden structure with wood vertical siding. I suggested they build with brick. They now proposed a brick strip product which is one inch thick, and grouted on the wall on mesh. This appears to be a reasonable product, and should make for a higher quality appearing structure. The plan also includes an outdoor swimming paol and some potential landscaping. The building has a parapet approxi- � mately four feet, with a slope mansard roof, forming the parapet at the top. All mechanical units are indivudal, however, with each room unit. This will likely be processed at the October meeting of the Planning Commission and Council. s L� � � Planning Office Hours Page 2 August 12, 1987 3. O'Connor, 487-2152 Mike O'Connor lives at 494 Hilltop Avenue, which is the area westerly of McCarron's Lake, on the east side of the water works property. He proposes to buy a portion of his neigh- bor's property to enlarge his existing fifty foot lot. The neighbor owns three lots. Dave Janisch noted that he can adjust this lot line without hearings before the Planning Commission and/or Council if three criteria are met: 1. No new building site is created. 2. No substandard lot is created. 3. No development regulations, such as setbacks, are violated. It appears that Mr. O'Connor's proposal meets all three criteria. He will prepare a detailed drawing, and submit his application to the Public Works Director for an administra- tive lot line change. 4. Target, 370-5841 Forrest Russel, who has been a landscape architect and site planner with Target for ten years, �as in to review very preliminary ideas with respect to the Target store in Roseville. Fortunately for Target, the Knowlan Super Market people have elected to close the store. A. year ago, Target was trying fruitlessly to buy out Knowlan's lease. Now they are leaving on their own. The existing building is 78,750 square feet, and the Know- lan's building is 25,225 square feet. A typical new, large Target store today is 102,000 square feet. On the Roseville site, they propose to add an addition at the southea�terly corner of the building, and thus this Roseville store will be larger than their typical new :�tore. They will need approxi- mately six hundred parking spaces, which currently exist. They will be moving the loading and receiving area from the north end of the building to the southeasterly portion of the building. The Knowlan's market area will bccome the ware- house, and the long narrow strip on the east side of the structure (where the warehouse is now) will be converted to sales space. We talked about techniques for refinishing the entire struc- ture, which will be done as a part of this renovation �ob. We also talked about new curbing and landscaping on the southerly portion of the site near the entrance, and along County Road B. We reviewed preliminary ideas in terms of how to bring the loading area to the building. A screen wall and some exten- sive coniferous planting would appear to be the best solution. ,' � � � Plannin Of f ice H� 9 urs August 12, 1987 Based on these discussions, prepare preliminary plans for which will ultimately result the Roseville store. • Page 3 they are going to go back and further review with the City, in renovation and expansion of There are now over three hundred Target stores around the country, Forrest notes that in most markets they are satis- fied with ten percent. In the Twin City metropolitan area theX absorb twenty-five percent of the market. Thus, this is their biggest success area. The Roseville store, originally built as a Jubilee store, is one of the best and the first in the area. 5. Lanthier, 623-1695 Cliff Lanthier is the manager of the Ed Phillips warehouse at the northwest corner of County Road C-2 and Long Lake Road. They have a truck driveway access road near the southeast corner of the site, which has an island at its entrance to Long Lake Road. The roadway was designed and built in a manner so that trucks entering the site off Long Lake Road drive over the island. This condition is caused by an inade- quate turning radius because the driveway is parallel to Long Lake Road rather than perpendicular to it, as would be the normal case. It is obvious that the design of this entrance roadway should be rev�.sed so as to likely eliminate the island, and provide for a proper turning radius. I suggested that the�r hire a qualified engineer, prepare a revised design, and bring it to the Public Works Department to be dicussed with Messrs. Honchell and Janisch. Neither of these gentlemen were available at the time af our discussion with Mr. Lanthier. It appears to be a matter of preparing a more intelligent design that will look better and work well. 6. Rossini, 482-7786 Robert Rossini lives at 3008 West Owasso Boulevard, opposite of Brenner as it intersects with Owasso to the northwest. Mr. Rossini proposes to build a garage in his frant yard, which is a normal solutican to lots in this area on the shore of Lake Owasso. These lots are deep, and slope drastically to the southeast toward the lake. His site plans appeared to be reasonable and appropriate for the lot conditions that exist. I informed him regarding the procedures and regulations for the processing of a minor variance and shoreline development approval. 7. Siegle, 636-7406 Chris SYegle represents �radford Schools, who have been lookina in the RosPvile area for a site for the development of a new campus. They now occupy rented space in an office structure north of County Road B, east of Herschel. � � Plannin Off ice H• s g August 12, 1987 P'age 4 Bradford Schools is a nation-wide educational system who, some years ago, purchased Min:Zeapolis School of Business. The School educates, primarily, young women for secretarial and administrative positions. The Bradford Schools are looking for approximately a five acre site on which they propose to construct 53,000 square feet of structure in three-story buildings. Parking capacity needed would be approximately three hundred eighty spaces. 'I.'c�,��nty thousand square feet of structure would be utilized for classroom purposes, and 33,000 square feet for residen- tial units. Mr. Sieg�.= has been meeting with the staff periodically for some months, �nd is now looking at three possible sites which include the Fcaat. site, the Evensen building on County Road H- 2 and Prior, a,:d the residential sites at the northeast corner of County Road C--2 and Trunk Hiqhway 88. Of these, Mr. Siegle prefers the Ruan site. The staff has been meeting with various potential users for the Ruan site which included a car care center, possible retail developmer�t and, previous to that, a potential motel and restaurant (the Dillon Inn proposal), The car care center and retail would, of course, be one story buildings with substantial parking at five spac�s �er thousand. Subject to the development of an appropriate site plan, it would appear that �'he i�radford School's proposal could c�n- stitute an attractive and reasonably approgriate use for the Ruan site. This site is a gateway to the office park area ta the south, and it is important that the Ruan truck texmin.al be remaved, and �he land be developed £or an �ttractive and reasonably intensive use. Trie continued development of ttae office uses in the area as planned (and begun with the JLN dev�lopment) will, in fact, provide a mark�t for the Schoal's students. Mr. Siegle understands that the City expects quality masonry construction (brick), and a quality development plan so as �o enhance the aesthetic impact of this crucially placed pie�� of property as relates to the City's ov�rall development perspective. Mr. Siegle will have develapment plar�s preparec3 for subse- quent review by the City. During the en�uing weeks, �lr. Siegle will be discussing t�.x incr�ment with Mr. Waldron. �'� ;,� � N� ,� � J d / i I/�� / �ItO 1LJ • °' __1 L�L —�� J %� /; oi %� i� �I ; ( v -� 1 .�� tJ �I �+ -1 � �I �� . ,.. ..� _ �l � �� l�� ( �¢ � �'�'tal✓ � E � i --` zl r ` a .' -- • � ' . ✓ J "' � `– rs4+ � � � � � i «� � ��k J '�-�r� U� [4 �� .� �— P;; _ ;; � r . .: . 9' . . f . .. � . ., c � • 1 - , � s�:o '. :.. S � . i'*t m �� w� Q �. 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S. y — __ . _ . � � . ._ . . .. .� � �... . � . : � . .. _ �� .� ,�..� �. . �..,._� _� �� __r-..^�__.t� � �f� � ` ��L� -� - n--r-� � - - ? C ,�.a REV�SED DATE � r��'� � 3 4 Z.,. �= o.= .� _ _ �o��o��a - .��r�� I �f �� =1� -��lf a� ��f �f a�- � a2i� 6n e�X � � 0 �� 1' �a'� � � � � 3 =i '4 I � $I ( 6 � � 7 Y.I � G� � ( 7 `s'�) 2 � �) �7 rz- 77 EC►i - �� .,s_» o�� _ - � �• � Au ust 10, 1987 � g TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren S�7BJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, AUGUST 5, 1987 1. Mueller, 887-6141 Roman Mueller and Bud Kaupp, both of Super America, were in with Bob Johnson, attorney, to review some proposed changes they wauld like to make on their site plan for the expansion o� the Super Ameri.ca development at the noxthea�" corner oi County Road B and Lexington. They claim the expansion, as approved by the City, will cast them $110,000 which, you will recall, expands their pa�king capabili�y, moves a driveway fur�her tq the �ast, but does not expand the building. They w�nt�d to substan�ially reduce the inv�s�ment by moaing the dr3veway on1� s1igY�tly t4 th� east, le�ving an area of parking which backs into the drive a�cess across tihe f.ront o� the bui�.ding, and reduces the parking capacity, t�e r�viewed the c�ndi�ions under �hi.ch the Sp�cial � was appraved, which includes a statem�nt tha� t�i� occur as progosed in their plans as �ubmi�ted anc� Use P�rmi� dev�:la�m�nt �at�d. kte nated tha� th� staf� cloes not have thc right ta authori�� substant;ial changes in the piar�. We did, hawever, s�gQes so�ne minor c�aang�s which would tend �4 reduce their cnsts, r�d�ce some e�scava�ing cc�sts at the southeast caran�r �f th�* sit�, but would nat x�du,ce the �a�king c�►pacity n�or ch�n�e ti�e loeation of the pro�os�d dr�.veway mou� to the east. Ttae moving of this driv�way ca�s a$ubstantia�l impzov�m�nt to the ariginal sit� pl�n, and we insisted this not b� chang�d, Messrs. Janisah and �ale�ron both ac�re�d that th�: sugg�sted char�g�s would b� minor anci appr�pxiate. 2. Sikora, 455-�7��'�0 Bill Sikorm� of the C. G. R�in Gompany, was �n tca reWiew pxogr�ss and s�:atus o� their shopging center d�velo�m�nt at the so�atheast co��ner of Long Lak� R�ad �nd County Road n. They have agreed ta an easem�nt for a sidewalk, a�d note tha+� th�y are abQut f��rty perc�nt leased, The buildinq �l�ns indicate brick, a:,� a�ppro�ed, but tha� on� additional firewa�l.l will be addEd on the we�t side of the buil.dings The original plans inc�icated a�`i��wall only on th� east side. This i� a li.fe safety rec�uir�ment. � The roof will be a cor�tinuous gable; thus, tt�e�e will be no roof top equipmen� (��h�e way it was originally agpxoved). « Planning Of f ice H• s August 5, 1987 We discussed the landscape plan not prepared the final landscape two and one-half feet by twelve thirty square feet per shop. � and signage, plan as yet. feet for each Page 2 though they have Signage will be shop, totaling He will be back with additional drawings as required. 3. Gaeftre, 484-4968 Joan Gaeftre and 4�alter Bufton (484-4995) are some of the heirs to the land at 899 West County Road B, which consists of a parcel 134' x 323.32', westerly of t�e rear of some lots fronting on Victoria. �'his is the property that Marlin Tramm has been trying to put together for the development of a short cul-de-sac for single tamily lots. Ms. Gaeftre and Mr. Bufton informed us that her sister would like to purchas� the house and, ther�fore, divid�: a lat out of �he ex3sting parcel. I suggested khat� this woulci not be apFropriate ur�less there w�ere some dev�lopment propo��l or so�ution for the rer�aincler of the fand. In other words, once this is donc as thEy propos�, i�t would be impossible tQ effectuat� the cul-de-sac concept. Two of th� foux• landowners �� th� �ast w�nt to s�ll tlae rear � of the la�d, and tw�o do nat. � sue�g�sted that in this k�,nd of c��, f�equ�nt�.� time is t�e basis for sol,urion. xhus, it m�y bc app�ogriate ta s�l� th� en��tr+e traet tm h�r sister und�z seme arrang�mer�t �r�.th �h� r�mair�dcr of th� heirs. � Our basic mc�ssage was tha� a solutiion be evolved r�otd, �or hald �h� txact as is until s�ach r�.nn� a� a s4lutic�n ean be workmd out with th� �ontiguous prope�ty owner�. The o�h�er 4p�tion would �c to do �a �rivake �aad access under � P�WU,p,� �� mann�r so th�t rh� public r�o�� could be accompl�,si�ed la��. Thi� is com�l3.c�ted by the �'act �ha� the total land �;�Q� i�vola�d would b� �,la ecres, wher�as �ta�o �c�es i� r�quir�r3 �o� 8 ��U.D, Th�r�e i� �ais�o the qu��ti�r� of the a�cquisitian of � small p��cel o� tax ��rEe�t l�nd at th� northwest co�n�� of the tr�c�e. They have indica�ec3 th�� Mr. Tramm �s stil� int��- �st�c� in t�a� prQpe�t�, ar�d i,s ��kemptin� te� �ce�ui�re t?��t taac E��feit parcel� You wi�l notc l�t�r in this r��ort that �9r. Tratnmm cam� in tQ discu�s the �ro�ao��l as we.1].. 4. H�z�mes, 646-7135 Don Hermes anrl his faxn3.�y �antinue ta o�s�xa�� grE��house at 2A25 Ros�lawn Ave�ue. �� showed �s a d�awi�� Q� $ pz€�.iminary piat whi�h ��ou1d p�o��ct a sinc�l� f�mily cu1-r]e- sac �nto �ch� pxope�t� for the d�velopn��nt of single family lo�s, TheX may dEv�lop this prap�r�y �h�ms�lv�s in 198g or 19�9. Th� property cur��n�ly is and has b��n ��ed for the productior� of ros�s. ThEy ax� looking at ex�ansion of the,�r rase growing eapabilities outside pi t}�� ity of Roseville. r • � �� • Planning Office Hours August 5, 1987 Page 3 It appears the property would accommodate approximately ten lots, and Mr. Janisch notes that water and sewer is available in the street. The development as proposed met or exceeded development stanciards. Tn the meantime, Mr. Hermes proposes to apply for a temporary permit for two plastic covered hoop houses, measuring 96' x 26`. They would be placed thirty feet from the westerly property line, which is contiguous to a vacant 1ot which fronts on Loren Road. The proposed hoop houses would }ae there £or a maximum of two �ears. Examination of this proposal suggests that it w�uld be appro- priate as a t�mporary building under the temporary building permit process. The Herm�s noted that they are lc�oking tor approximately a two acre site to construc:t a new garden store, with a building af approximately 9,500 squar� feet, plus 4,000 square feet of greenhouse space. We discussed various locat�ions in �toseville wher� this might b� possible. 5. Ri�h, 636-6400 Ron Rich i�s an attarney who dropp�d in over th� noon hou� te review with us som� concerns r�lating �o the pre��nc� of eas�men+ts on th� faur lats t��t Hc�nestr�o, Rosene, and And�r- l�k have purchas�d aff Fulham �toad, north of th�ir sit� a�t th� northw��t corn�r of F�alham Etoad and Trunk Fiighw�� 6. Charlie Honcl��ll ar�d Dave Janisch revie��d the �asem�nts aa rolates +�4 t�� xeccn� improv�ments construct�d �n Fulham, notin�g that Qasemon�s which now encomQass approx�mat�ly hal� �f th� �rop+�r+t�► can be reduc�d to approxim��c�l� th� �tQ�t�rly �I�irt� fe�t. M�. Rieh is concerned hecaus� hfs cl�ents p�opos� �o clos� on ��e �a�aperty �hi� woek, �ncl th� prc�sence �f tho Gas�mera�s� w�s a m��tor af .an�Qrn. 6. �Qltz, 296�-7801 ,7ohR S�lt� is � po�ential b�ay�r for the s�vc�n ,��cre tract nt��t to Poc�k�ar�t�s P�rk, ,��dic�t�eci in the Compr�hensiv� P�an as future p�rk �roperty. Mr. Seltx has rece.ive� a Te�ter indica�ing th� City's d�ci - si��r� not �o purch��e t�is prop�rty and i�, tM��efor�, inquiring about his po�sibi�,ity of dev�loping th� l�nd for r�side�tial purp�ses. I ea�p3ain€:� ��ti� �r�c:��u�� a�� a�- dards for dev��.e�m�n�, no�ing t�at +!:t�� rop�rty as axists could acce�tnmo�ia�e a singl� family hom�:� �.�� $ b�uildable singl� �amily lo�. � • �� Plannin Office • � g Hours Page 4 August 5, 1987 He questioned the possibilities for additional home sites. We reviewed the r�quirements, suggesting because of the nar- row conf iguration of the buildable site th�t there should not be an attempt to "over d�velop" the site. 7. Rosene, 636-4600 Marv i�osene wa� i� to review the easements that ap�ear apply to the four single family lots th�y are purchasing af Fulham. Charlie Honchel�. and Dave Janisch reviewed status of these easements, some of which a�pear no� to been completed. It appea�s certain that at least two o� ar�, in fact, on record, but with aYl of th�:m having the Stat� easemen�s which covers ��e wes��rly thirty f��t, to west the have th�m old We all agre�ci tria� Mir. Ha�nck�ell would get th� a� builts from the consuiting engine�rs, and that h� would r��i�w this with Nlr. Ro��ne and Dave �7anisca to a�ccrtair� th� �xt�nt ta wh�ch thc e�s�m�nts c�n b� reducod tg cc�ver thc ar�a x�quir�� far th� ponding. I nat�d �ha� �h� City is int�r�s�ed in having th� lat�� mflre intensely� and r�easonably d�v�lo�a�d and Gha�, there�o�e, th� �asem�n� c�n be r�dwced t� wha� is a�tua�ly ne�rl��. Mr. Ros�ne ��em�d to bc► comfo�tabl� w�.t�h �hi� �pproa�h, �anr3 indic�,tec3 th�ir ir��nt to procecd w�th t�e �cs�ui��,�ivn. 9. Tr�, fi33-2760 Marw,in Tr��m c�� ir, �o di�cus� tt�� possibil;�tias �c�� th� imm�,��cnt s�r p�etrac�ed de�er��.o�ptner�t o� �h� l�nd �h�t w� di�cusse�el e<�rli��r �+i�h� ��ic owner� �t �g9 w��e �our�ty �oad �. Ha no�e�l his ,in��re�r ir� �equ��,�r�c� th� �sa� �o�fa�i� p�,c��cQ, �hict� consist� o� .14 acr+es �t �he n�r�hwes� cQr��zr oE t�Q sf,e�. This i� � l�t�dlc��C�+�. par��l �h�t ha� ��n a�� he ��ac �oie� �o� �ev�r�� y��s, H� ��ti�l th�n c�r��id�r w��s ira whi�h he m�y k� �b�� o d�ua��p ehe� pr��acrty �ith�r p��;��i�lly o�° ��11y in �om� in��lligent w�y. � a��d +�hat �he iae�l dev�alop�o��t o w��h ��p�� te� .i�c,�ueie� the r�dc��lo�r��nt s�f ehe w��te�1�► po��tion� o� �h� �ir��lc� family �o�s MV �he� Sr�►sE, �nc� �hQ �V��truc4,ioi{ oi � culad�-��c may t�k� �svme tim�. �. B�Brd� S�i-��73 �hi11�F Beaxd and Jim E'uqua, bo�h o�' Conacca� w�r� ,�n t� discuss the ��dQ�rcrl�pme�n� o� their sit� �t �he nar�hwe�� corner of Co�anty C anc� ��elling, w� c��c��d s�r�r��qe, no�in� that th�y �annot g�.�t � s�.�r� or� the fsce of a cartaPY, nor advcrtising �ic�n� on t�p of �I�� gumps in the isl�nds. Th�y �r� enti�.led t� two pylon �igns, being a carne� lot--one at 175 squ�r� feet �nd on� �� 00 squarc feet. They no�ed �he� we�uld conform to th� s�.gn r�q►�i��m�nts, r�r,d also that the station wi,ll �ae a Cc�noco s�ation ra�h�r �han a Kayo Oil, as was pr�v�.causly th� possibility. , � � Planning Of�ice Hours Page S August S, 1987 • They indicat�� th� colors af t�eix structure will be the ear�h tone Condno c�lors an� will not includ� the vivid yellow that normall� is util�zed at the Kaya Oil Statio� .CY��.��rS e � � � n+ a.. .y v y � � � `+ � � � 'M v �u s « „f. � �':,.*� �-..�,.•_ /' r �. ._.. �gf *ti ga� A� vf �str� °'�n► �� i.i�h�� n `� riN �I� �� IY �II� {�7 �,fi'�' ' ' �,��`�� /t.' � � �u '��s^�'*I�� as �� ,�� I..�+1M� ` .. �f�t.�s � i y�' �:� 'P �� r+' ia. `f"^ �;� � � . 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' r ..„.� „ � r� � s i �� i� �� ; �� e� �� rr �� o� � Es ;; 2� =1 �e r; .,� _ • ' • � � • �7uly 28, 1987 � T0: Jim Andre FROM: Ho��ard Dahlgr�n SUHJECT: PLANNING OFFICE iiOURS, JULY 14 AND JULY 22, 1987 1. Morrison, 426-3287 �ldon Morrison, th� �rchit�ct, we$ in to review th� d�v�lop- m�nt aE a new resie3en�e at 3Q�0 W��G �wasso Houlevard. He said this is a 5340,000 p�o�ect, all, of it conforminq to the shorQlino zonie�g requ�r�m�r�k�� Th� ��ructur� will be set back app�oximat��gr 1�40 f�et fxc�r� th� h�gh water liny, which is �asically in s�igr�nn��t� with �he other rQsid�nc�s to ths� nor�thea�t and �t�e so�o�hw��t�. '�hQ�re is an �xi�ting baa�thou�Q, a2 �c 2A' . They propose to taar +�Mi� �d�rn �r�d ��i1d a naa� 1��t�o��e 2� x 30" . Thc� r�gu�ation� e�xempt "'boa�thous��" f��m �khe 75' �c�rback reqx�ir�- n�ent, thougt� the�s� �� e� c��uc�s�i�ea �� tc� h+�w big a be�a�hous� �an tso. I�ugqQ�t�c� th��t �c� rc�ducQ �hc� �ize of th� bo��- housQ, which �s a�� o��c�cl �a �e�nctio�n a� a s�a�age area, so �� +�o re�du�a� �h� �.��a�c�. o� a� �ass �l�ons� �h� �horQline. � �`h� �ath�use �a� th0 $�u�hwc��t on �th� �or��uaus �a�o��t,y �,s ��" x��. ��oa�thau�� c�� a1�o�t �� ° woul� app�ar to k�0 �c��neb�c�. '�h� ��eho�a�� rc�p��€�tl w�l� � ��,r�ia�l� dug into �he I�nk, w��ch w��1 �cz�t�c�t �t� a��sth��ic impac�a fih�e dQerQ�op�n� sh�u1� ��a►��ead th�o�q� ehQ C�uncil� �or ��c�rQ�inQ �s��alo�� a�proer,��,, b�� a�ill req�a3.ra na verian�Qs � �� eu�crs�t�� o�o�c�d � . �. lt��l��. 9�0-�� P��ar l�,��1�i� �ont+a.mpl�e�in� �p�a��t��ia�c� a�c3 d��vc��,epin�q �he M�rr�► #��th a�i�Q, ��i�q� o�` 1.7'4 �+��s, a� ��e �o�athc�ast c�r�� a� i�ex��+�on ��d R��sla+�n. Yc�u wiil rc�cs�l �i�3� is ��ct ��a wt�Q�� K�c�l,a�r�$ 6� Su�� 1a�kr�� w�� osc�� and nat �p�rov�ti� �nd a�h�� f�es�a ��t�diz�q lic��¢a� storQ was appr��a�s� a �'�Q ��p��l, p�Qpa�ad �y �an ��eT�vi�h af P�ul P,�nk's ��c��t�c�ural ��ic�� o can��t ��n 1�,000 squa�� foot buildir�� a��h r�inQ�y��w�� p�rk,�nc� ��+�ds, p�.t�� g�solir►� pump. Th�s ��r��opn�c��t, �� cop�s�tl, wnu].d eon��m�l�t,a th� purck��sc� oE acc� Dun�n °� �Qrvica station s,��o ar� thc� cornQr, fihi.s �urc��o h�s �e� �.��, $��m��.i�h�d; �n� :��a hg di�fi�u2t to c�� c�. H8 als� showcd u� � p1�r� ind,ica�inr� tho ��1a�ation af Ac@'s � g��rac�o � �nd � sr�apping c�f thQ land . wQ �; c�vi�w�d zoninc� �oquir4mc�nts �nd pra�eclure�. H� pro�osa� to continu� n�gotia�ions with Ac�. �nd c�ns,�d�� rev,ised solutions, . . • ' Planning Office Hours July 14 and 22, 1987 Page 2 � 3. Larson 481-8070 Mike Larson represents the Welsh Companies, who have pur- chased a number of the buildings from Don Roberts in the City of Roseville. He was in to discuss their proposal to fill a ditch area between two of their properties east of Cleveland, south of County Road C. They have a tenant who desires more maneuvering space for the truck loading docks on the south side of the structure, which is currently impeded, to a degree, by the existence of the ope�� ditch. They propose, therefore, to install a pipe and fill the ditch. These are separate parcels, with a principal structure on each, thus a variance would be necessary to issue permits for this con- tinuity of asphalt across the property lines. I explained the principle of these rules and outlined the procedures and timing. During the process of �his explanation, Barry Matson, also of the Welsh Companies, joined the meeting noting that �hey had to do this work immediately and would proceed with or without permission. I explained the principles again, after which Mr. Matson reaffirmed his decision to proceed. I suggested that p:�aying "hard ball" with the City would likely not be productive for either side, par�ticularly when • they have thirty properties in the City. I have worked with Mr. Matson before, and found him to be a reasonable person. He was obviously very frustrated. � I indicated that the basic idea seems re�sonable, but that the staff cannot purposely violate an ordinance. It appears this problem can be handled either through the variance procedure, or perhaps some administrative adjustment on the 1ot line to allow the work to proceed as quickly as possible. 4. Jensen, 483-1200 Rob Jensen is the owner and agent fram Merrill Lynch for a property at 2584 Dellwood Avenue, where the Gontiguous property north has a deck extension three feet into their property. This area of the City is in a�ive foot setback area, thus a revision to the lot line could accommodate the problem. This could be handled as an administrative lot split. We also talked about the possibility of dividing a lot in, the future with access off Fernwood. 5. Larkin, 824-32�4 Terry Larkin is an architect, looking at the possible revisions to the cyGle shop site at the intersection �f County Road D and Lexingtan. The site is .66 acres with a 4,400 square foot building, with twenty-three parking spaces. We reviewed ordinance procedures and requirements for the revisions to the site. � i � ' ' Planning Office Hours July 14 and 22, 1987 • � �J Page 3 6. Ka o, 933-3011 Richard Lundahl, the architect for the Kayo Oil Company project, was in to review their lan�?C�cape plan and signage proposal. Their sign was proposed to be L shaped� where more than one side would be visible, therefore each side of the sign cannot be considered separately for measurement pur- poses. I suggested a double face pylon sign (without the L shape), thirty feet back from the right-of-way as required, a total of one hundred square feet in area. On the landscaping, he noted that they would revise it in anyway that we proposed. I, therefore, took a copy of the landscape plan so as to recommend additional planting to the north and west as requested by the Cauncil and Planning Commission, and to revise some af the planting material proposed, som� of which is not the mcast appropriate for the site. I will get back directly to Mr. Lundahl with a revised landscape plan. 7. Lido, 636-9721 John Labalestra was in to review revisions to their landscaping plan. He brought in a plan showing the existing landscaping. Comparing this with the landscaping pZan that was approved, I added the additional materials so that the ultimate landscape plan will meet or exceed the approved plar�, Mr. Labalestra will revise his plan acco�clingly, and submit it �or permit approval. The changes involve the additioil of a number of 2-1/2°' Austrian pine and other species previousl.y designated in the approved plan. We also cliscuss�d the problem of the screening of the roof top equipment on the restaur�ant. We reviewed a possible use of a wrought iron detail a�ound the entire �eri�hery of the building, which woulc3 match some of the detail on th� existing structure. T suggested he have �is architect �repare drawings to illustrate thi.s �cechnique for further consideration ori th� part of the staff. There will be an attem�t tc� avoid, entirely, the use of wood fencing or less quality materials for the screening purposes. Addition�al material may have ta be added to the wrought iron fencing detail so as ta accomplish the screeninc� objective. 8. Seigel, 401-227-6936 Chris �eigel, of the Bradford Schools, was in to discuss possible locations in Roseville for the construction of a new Brad�ord School of 20,000 square feet of classroom, plus accommod�tions for 200 students on campus. T�tal student enrollment `of 400 is antic;ipated. A five to six acre site would appear adequate. We revi�wed various locations within the target study area which is �aest of Snelling, south of County Road C. The Schaol could be located in an R-1 zone, but living accommoda- tions for students wnuld require an R-3 zone. . , • • � Office Planning Hours July 14 and 22, 1987 L _J Page 4 • 9. Moen, 228-9074 Renee Moen and Bruce Mitchell, of the Twin City Autism Society, were in to discuss a fence they have constructed at 388 Oakcrest, a residence at the southeast corner of Oak- crest and Western, where three autistic persons will be housed. The father of one of the child�en is the owner of the house; and leases it to the Society, which is paid partially by the County for caring for these children. The three children are 16, 18, and 20 year old males. These children wi11 be supervised twenty-fou� hours a day at this site and, af course, it is licensed by the County and the State. � �J The six foot high fence is entirely legal, except �hat portions of it are within the thirty foot setback west of Western Avenue. This would requir� a minor variance. There is no distinct hardship here in the sense that the fence couldr�'t be built further back. Ms. foot men, the yard this .Moen and Mr. Mitchell, however, point out that a four high fence would b� readily climbable by these young and that it is important to secure these fol}cs within �ard. They feel it is very important �o have as much space as possible, Based on the informat�.on we have at point, i.t appears that this is likely true. We reviewed procedur�s and requirements for pracessing a minor variance. 10. Spalla, 333-8210 Dennis Spalla and Tc�� erster, architect from KKE, were in to review their finalized si.te plans for their proposed Slumberland building at the northw�st corner of �heir site at County Road C and Snell.ing. The propo�ed buidling will be all brick, �ith fene�tr�tion going into the southwest and the north as indicated on th� previously submitted site plans. Sig�age w311 be on �wo side� of the building only, with no pylon si�gn. Roof top equipment will be screened by a faur foot para�et which ex�ends around the entire perighery e�f the buildinc�. They will be seeking site plar� approval a�nd division of the 1ot as a first stage developm�nt of tY�eir totaZ camplex at C and �nelling. We discussed the procedures for eon�idering the remainder of the site in conjunctian with thei.r appl.ica- tion for PeU.D. and rezoning. 11. Bartlett, 333-8210 Jim Bartlett was a.n to �.iscuss their progress with respect to the Dodge Agency on Long Lake Road, which was recentl.y approved the Planning �ommission and Council. He noted tl�at the conditions for the approval included construction of the sidewalk (no groblem), subject to engineering and landscape review, the use of tip up aggregate covered panels or better, and paving and curbing of parking areas. � � � Planning Office Hours July 14 and 22, 1987 Page 5 With respect to the landscaping plan, I suggested that he hire a professional to prepare the landscape plans, subject to City review. He agreed that the new building will be constructed entirely of tip up panels with an aggregate surface, to be reviewed by the City staff. He agreed to asphalt the entire parking area in the rear of the site (originally proposed to be left gravel), and to curb all the parking and driveway areas. Mr. Bartlett indicated that the development would procee� now, there having been some delay with respect to som�e coux� cases invalving other podge dealers in the area and the Chrysler Corporation. �lith r�sp�ct ta the Ruan site, he no�ed that he has put up a sign and has had several interested callers. 12. I,aden, 48g-8231 3�rr�r Laden owns a house at 2�97 NortY� Cleveland. The land is zoned B-9, and Mr. L�den realizes that a� some point the land should be developed for business purpc�ses. I sugg�sted he also arranqe to purchase the .71 acre area of land arour�d the site� owned by the Parranto Company. In the �reantime, he proposes to adapt his driveway to the new c�nstruction Qccurri.ng on Cleveland. Ntr. �?anisch explained the n�w curb locatior� and th� proposal to develo,� a sidewalk on a pa�tion of M�. Laden's land, for which an easement has been obtained. Ms. Laden praposes to expand a turnaround drivew�y that h� has, so thar he ca� d�ive f rontward onto Cleveland Avenue. To do this, he neec�s � Uariance to extend �hc: asphalt �o his north property line. T�a� line is cont3.guous �a the �trip of land own�d by Mr, Parran�o, and is not a develop- able lot. He haci a 1.etter from Mr. Parran�a givinq him permission to do so. Thi,s, th�n, wi11 be prAc�ssed as a minor variance, which appears to be perfectly re�asonable, and will improve the safety of hi� �ccess canditions to this residence. 13. Finneman, 780-1998 Mark Finneman, an archi�ect, was in to discuss the potential development for Arthur Shuster's land, which wa� the former Owasso School s�.te on the east side of Victoriao This site is 2.2 acre�, and is zoned single fami.ly. I noted that we have talked with Mr. Shuster over the years in terms o� a possible cottage type devel.opment for Senior Citizens. ,• � Planning Office Hours July 14 and 22, 1987 \J Page 6 Finneman showed an apartment with fifty-five units, � Mr. al density guidelines of which considerably exceeds the gene� seventeen units per acre. T sugg ested that this development d be considerably enhanced if it could be combined with coul noW occupied by a single family the property to the north, home and a marina. I suggested that he advise �r• nowsisr£or salesidand come chasing �:he marina land which we k with an overall development plan fo�a facilitieslnasl�a �p keeping the mar multi-family housing, community servic�. Mr. Finneman indicated he would discuss th is with his client and be back for further consultation. 14. Dahlbera, 339-4200 Wa� in to discuss th� Jim Dahlb�rg, an architect with KKE, poss ible redevelopment of the St. Clair S�frBica��ta�nellinge ��o� ��o��d� at the north�ast corn��3�� 50, on �ahich �his is a very sma�ll� site, measuring � �ar �ash, and they p�eOpose to build ��luare ifeet�ratiW�thout subs'tantial �Wo bays of 2, 000 qsetback, �Y�� s�.�e is �oo small to variances to the p�rking accommoaate thi.s deve�opment. I �ugges�ed that he ar�ci his cli��ce�sn$tY�iat accuPY con�ider combinir�g �h� three � � �g�l of wi�ich a�e total�.y inad�c�uat� far corn��, caperatians. The other �ites in�lucle �he c�.r �Clai �m�11 cl�.ni� huildiny ciir��lY n°�th of th� Sti � T�� atal acr�ag�, if thes� three si��s were ccarnbineci, � 1 173 a�cr�s . sho�ald �his tr�ir mnd a► � sit�. aae�uld � . Waldr�n, wha suggest�d tt�at w� � discussed th�.s wi�h Craig utting �h�se p��p�r�ies explore th� gossibil�.ty o� p he�. 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Zink, 623-1800 Russe�l Zink, archit�ct, was in with Bill Ridiel (484-0413), regarding th� Spur Station owned by Murphy Oil Company at the southeast corner of D and Cleveland. They are praposing to revam� th� station, but are attempting to keeg the original building. The layou� th�y pr��ented a►ppeared to have inadequate space for prop�r movements around the propo�ed pump islands. We talked about the possf.bility of thei.r acquiring edditiorral land to th� �ast �rhich is already zoned B-3. �her� app�ar� to b+� a forty-thr�� foot strip a�s a City storm sQw�r Qas�- ment. The lacation and sQrvice area ov�r th� fu�urQ �hould be �xcell�nt. � a. Kaufhold, 6�3-9�3,1 ,Terry Ka�fho�d �as in with .7ahn Vitl�.o, his at�arney, and ��m Dun��ll, archit�ct, to r�viQw C�teir reyised plans �or th� L�xing�or� School sit�. Th� �otal s��e acruag� is 8.5�s equelin� 371,980 squar� fe�et. Aftc�r dee�ication of s�xt�+�n ancl ana-h�� feet for i�eacinc�ton and ten �e�t far Coun�y R�ad 8, the ne� 8cx�ac�� ould bo 8. i7 � or 356, 086 sc�ua�e ��et. Prop�s�d park cl��3ic�tion �+tert percent � sh�wn o� �hc�i�r drar�ing wa� �6,750 sc�uar� f�eet. �h� �a�k sitQ i� pr�ag�sed to 1� 82, 600 ��uar� fee�, o� �aiaict� 45, B�SQ squ��Q �Qet �.s �o � sold ta th� City, '�he propos�d purch��a price is 5125,000, whi�ch �quals 82�73 �r �qu�+r� foo�. �p�lyi�q �hQ ��.�3 to �he 356, Od6 sc�uare £eet C nc�� usab�le ac�+��g� af�or d�dic�tior� i �ou1� agu�l �972,Qp4. �'hey paid 5i,O08,000. We suc�gQs�e� �o th�m tha� this purchaso p�ei�e was too �igh, at�d �ha� �her� �nust �cemertt�or that kho �and valu� i� on�y a thaorQtical f�g�ur� un1Q�s i� is pro��rl� zanad. In ath�� words th� S�hoal �oard, in our apinic�n, do�es t�o� h�ve the �ight �o assum� the l�ra� wi�l b� z�ned �ar bu�in��s anci, thu�, � value ba�€d or� that assumptiora is in��lici. Going on to tkre proposad �se, I�ue�gested th� p�Yk could b� increased by 38,37 �eGt in north/�auth dim4n�ien. This wauld gi�� m�: a�;a�uat� roon to h�nd3e tY�e �a�l fi�lsi �r��?G�d �or th� sit�. WG discuss�d the site with �ob Bi�rschaid, who � not�s t�at thL Park and Recr�cation Committa� r�ga�rds this sit� as important to the neighborho�d, and th�t tha south- west�rly quadrant g�nerally as propos�d, would b�: ad�quate to �ulf ill �hat ne�c�. �. � � Plannin Office Hours • g Pa e 2 July 1, and July 8, 1987 Regarding the proposed building for the auction house, it would have 12,400 square feet per floor, of which the first tloor would be for the auction facility. The present auction house has 7,800 square feet. Assurning retail for the entire struc�ure (37,200 sguare feet), the parking required would b� 186 cars. Th� plan shows 196. The amount of parking capacity needed far th� auction house is somewhat of a nebulous figur�, hawev�r. They claim that up to three hundre:d fifty persons wi11 go in and out of thc auction house in a day, whcre in an evc�ning the�e will lik�ly be anly onc hundr�d tw�nty-five persons there at any on� time. xhis plan envisages the rennoval nf a portian of �he building (th� south�rly most wing), mak�ing spac� for the construction o� th� new structure. They have agre�d, �s w� had sugges�ed previousl�, �a koQp th� er�tir�e north ha�.f of �he site as a singlc p�rcel' without dividing a sm�l.l �ot for th4 na��heaster�y earner of the� si�c�e � not€d th�t a� buyar propo�ing to tear down tha old bui�lding� and bu�ld a n�w struetur�e would be� �r� �dv�n�ar��ous te� the Ci+�y. In a�y cas��, th� possib#�lity of thet s��et�rring in the futurc� should la� �►Iannc�d fo�. 3. F�t�rsctn, G36-269I ��ad ��Qr�en � �� t 1907 G�uek Ganc�p and �+e� in �o �.��k ab��a� �h� ��ib1e dlui�i�� of �� rrd. Wo ha� 28� �ct�t� aE ��an�a�g�o +��r G1uQk �.�na N�rt�, �nd !.� �,��rs hi� housct ��a �on�t,ruc�ee� �a tha� th� e�aste�l� h�l� could !� di�r�ded o��, �t`O�IIC�l�1+� � �4C O� ��?��X�t91��+ �� Q(3t. I su�qe�tc�� hu d�� i� �rit�h h�� r��h!'�rs, a� �►�� c�o�a in �hQ c��Q �� D�. H�a��"s p��o��l ��n�h ��e, 4. Rot��t�� 1�9�113 C�� `��.un� w��s ir� ��:��, ��d �� R��t`�� w�� t� 1��, �Q t�lk �kx��t � +��ri��a�� ee �he� �i�r� r��i��i�n� �s�� t�o��h E'�#�t��aiew. 'Th�� a��► �� 2�2 ��t g� �ro�t��e �n �hQ wQ�� id� �f �'��rv.�aa�, �n� �r� Qa��sr:�� i�� c�n�l��r�� o� �OQ �+�uar� �c�Qt t�� u�hori�ad� �� ivan ovQr �o Car�pu�Q�l�nt�, �rh� cawn�d �he �i��. htr. Ra��t� h�� x��w �ue�d h,i� ��Q� �r�or� �t�o fr��t t��t �i�1� c�� hc� �uil��n�� ta an a�s�� n�a� ehQ �au�h �Qn�r�� g��+tio�n c�f eh� ��.lci:.n�. MQ �1cts��Qs � RY2�n si�n 8� 4' �a� �re�, t� bt� 1��cQd �c�� hct ��utha�s� co�r�c� of h�s �.itc�. � a�c�a��ir�c�d th�t tt�� r�n�ir�c� o� ��ece�nd p�lon h�� not bQQn �he n�rmal �arac�ice in �Asevil��, �ncl e��r�ss�c� ��r cBr��Q�n rQg�rding th� proced�nt. I na�c�d th�t such a yar�.�nce m�ght w�ll b� v�r�r dif�i�u�t �c� �c}�is�vQ, �nd su��e�ted tha� h� may w�r�t t�o xeconsid�r apgly�nq, He ,�rn�po��s to da so. in response to our qwe��i.on, he m�n�,ging some thirt� bui�.dirags, structur�s h�ve been sold. r�o�es �hat thoy �r� still �haugh m�ny o� thair , , � • Planning Office Hours July 1 and 8, 1987 � Pa e 3 9 � 5. Otto, 484-4234 Dean Ott� lives at 907 Lovell Avenue, and was in with his neighbor Mr. Leslie Gonyer, who lives at 903 Lovell (484- 3716)� These gentlem�n share a driveway which totals 32.5 feet in width, whereas a resid�nti�i driveway width maximum in Roseville is 22 feet. Approximately seven to ei�ht feet away from their garages, ther� is a five toot aisle in between the two garag�s. Lou�ll Avenue is being rebui��, and th.� question af the driveway width i� important for the purpos� of building th� ne� driv�w�y ap�roach within �h� publie right-of-w�y. I sugg�sted �hat the� neck th� two driveways dow� sa �ha� a� i� cro�ses �he prap�r�� lin�, it may bQ ��m�t�ing b�t��n 22 �nd 2� ��t. It ap�ars thi� wo�ld work, �nd th�� a�r�ed �o look at �his on �h� s��Q to see i� �hi� �ou�d � an ��p�- abl� �olut�on. Variances would �av� �� lt� proC�s��d ina�much as on� o� th� d�fvaway� �� i�ht o� ��e ��op�rty ��n�p a�� the o��ar is on the �ro�r�y li�� exc��t for a�ar�io� fl�a� kh� ��aq�. 6. ��u�� 4�9-0506 R�c��r� w��v�$ at 96a Shr��r� a�d h�a a�o� l�� w�d�h and ��8 �QQ� in ��h. H�� i� p�� o! ��i�� ots �h�t ��Q �mrr��i��a1� n�� o� �hQ �i��a1 ��p��y. He � wou�d l�ka �o d�vi�� o�� c ��the�ly h�� o� �� Q�, �hi�h a�o�l� rac�v��rc� ��r ��Qt t�e� b� con��uct��3 e��s�/�� r� �xin$�c�� ke�y ��ir�� c��t o� his p�opQ�� a�t�d � th�� ao� �� a�� 3�Q �i��ct� ��t�. � �u�q��:�� ha�� r�� a� h�� r�o�qt�b��c� an� ��* �i��c�� E��c� �►��t� �o �ae�a ��rct� � ��s� �cans+t�u�+�e�d, �.,�� i� �� ke�� b� ��i�� o �iv%d� h�s ��o�rt�. 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'_ � t��i �� M� ��►i .r� 1+.��'L iW..��._. �i . ":. .. �I} .. , .. .-...- -.�'+ '_ _ � ....... . .._:_�....�'wW�t �f _=u..�a�cv .n��w� .Y r..vr. .. ti � .��..� R ,. .__._�_ - .:.:.��_.1 rl _r:.��, � �✓� � �� I ',f � �' M _ . . . -.- �n� -� .. c.� i r .ii H�I i �a.ed • rV� �� i�..i -� `._ .-, � �� F :� � �� H �� i M�� ar�. K ,.� � �sao 4 �� i � July 1, 1987 � TO: Jim Andre F�20M: Howard Dahlgren � SUBJECT: PLAi3NING OFFICE HOURS, JUNE 24, 1987 1. Dunwell, 483=6701 Tom Dunwell was back with Paul Kaufhold to review revised pla�ns for the Lc:�rington School site. Th�y� propos� now a park fa�r the southwe�t c�uadran+�, a p�rtion of which they a�ill have ta cledicate as a p�rt of the platting r�c�uirement inasmuch as �he �ite is oa�� five ecres� is �oned res�denti.�l, and f,s propc�ged �a b� divic�ed. Fie showed a park north of fiv� lots ori.gin�l�y, Th� ��rk i� naw sNown as �n antity in its+�lf, w�th��+� ��sidc��al ��ts ��cumberinc� the south or west s�,d�. �le p�o�os�� now ta �et�in tha ��haol struc�u�� as e sin�lo �at, cam��c�� pp�o��►t4��r hal� o� tt►c� �rape��. `Thc� �at�thc��seer�y �quac��►t� wou�d b� d��ign�d �a� � n�� s��ue�u�e, �c�mb►in�zd �ri�h �r� r�f �ic�r bu��el�n�. � �o�ti�on o� �h�a+� buildireq �►ould � u�ed �a� ��a �ase Gal�a�y�. °�a�Q �ar�d �►�sx� �o ��Q r��e�o��i� 1 di�e � �c� �ta th� �Qu+�� woul� � � p��a��Q� ts� !rQ �or►�� Ec-1, r�ieh ��h��cy fao� 18nd�cap��. �� t��a��r��c�� t�► ��on� ��li c�n �h� r�a�+�tr �ic�Q o� t�tt ��rc��t�. �t�i� �� t��q �lc��c�� c�,��on�b�� n��tp� � � l t hc►�e�� a��a � � c� �� co�c��nQ�d a�� hQ �o�s� a� � ��ia� a� �h� ��t°i�. � na�s�dl �N�� r� �'i+�� r�� eh�z ��n�� hc �c�►aol ��, e�� ha�� h� �a��ate� �� th� ��nd �� e�� ar� wl�at �� a� � u�c�� c��. "�h�r�E��, tt�� aa�uc� ��i� ��i,� ��y o� m�� no� bQ ��. �r �� up �s� t��r� �� ► ��1�� h� �p�rap��ce �a�tl ��, aal��N �� c� �� et�� -1. �. �147��111��1�� 6��'�� s�� i ��e�� Ct��i�� h� R��+a�il�� F��,�nn�nq ��or�r �� 1 �� r��n�, �t�d p�+a��g �o b�� Pi�+�� e��n ��1� �r� �he �a�� id►� �� i�i�� hou��t, ��►��c� ��a�rti ��c�a�r��t� ��. �hi� �a��d �� +�� p�a�� i�� +�+ct�� +��hin ��c��-��+�� t a� ��a h�� Qr l,ins�. �e� m��$u�� p�t�x��e�� th� �i��nec�� e1�� t��me�� ir� th� ar�ta ,�,�� ck �r�r� �h�s� ��'�� ra�, t�s�v�r�� tr�m �ou�h �c► n��th, �3�� t��m+Q� ap��r �a �� c+t i�Ack c��c�h�+�� c�nt, sc�en�Y �e�ee� ��a�a��►��e fe�e�, ��d �ixt� ��s��. '�� M� ��u�h, ��a �e�i�lee►�� r� �� bo �i�Nty�t�hr�c� E�a� ��c�. '�h4 e��dir�ancQ ��.z��;�� +� �,��r�t��.�-��►� �e��, � Gc�a��' � �Y��ras� ��sor� po�ch wi�l �e ��f�� c�Qt in d��h, wh�ch ��em� � rc�as��a�a�.e�, min�mal dist�r�c�. e�� wi�l, �hcsre- for�, ��ly fo� a� �p�lica�ian �or roduc�cl sQtb��k, �nd �h�rQ].,ine zonic�g �pp�o�al a� sixt�r-eighk ��t. . � Of f ice Ho•urs Planning June 24, 1987 3. Gerstner, 339-4200 Tom G�rstner is an archit�ct with KKE, who was �llingson, Der�nis Spal].a, and Missy Thompson, Associat�s. Wc reviewed their revised P.U.D. plan f�r their properties at the northeas� corner and County Road C. The uses proposed are a of�ic�. and bank, a two story offic� building, �e�ail building, and a Residence Inn described m�mos. Page 2 in with Bab all ot F�.ne develapm�nt of Snelling three stary a one story in preuious It �pp�ars this �ievelopment pxoposal is a reasanab�.� o�ne, subjeCt to a�di�ianal details request�d regarding signs, location a�nd handling of d.umpsters, and scr��nir,g of air condi�io�inc� equipmene on th� roofs. The �ppli�at.ian will b� far rezoning to H�-1B, approval Af gl��nesci U�e Develo�ment, �nd varisnce to parking to �hree �psc�s p�r �ho�s�nd �or the proposed furniture storee a�a�rad c#iWi�ion �r�1i fo11�w �t sub�equ�nt m�etinc��, du� to ��.mir�� n�cc�s�ry re�evant t� �he tax incremant progra.m, wMich �r, w�l�d�o� di�c��sc�d �i�h the �p�li�ants, 4 � Gcytti;�eb� &31�-2�26 R�� a��l �r��tl �1� �� , rarr�. �arm�l��r kt��r� te� s�c��r� �B��i�° �i�ira, cc�nE��cr� wf th �i�n � a�c aE �h� �wn�r� of erick Ov�n F�est�u= a�� h+� ��ick �ven 8�anery. Thay pxoFase �a��,ch wQ cli�cu��s�d. T�►s� �i�ra will b� in a�c�gul��f.�n� �� o si�c �nd loc�tion. �. �ie��n�n G�3-25i� �,��Q �"�`��,� ��v�� a+t �. � 12 �a 1 i �m�n Curve . �ie has � douk�le �t�o�t�g� �o�, •'�� r�� c�f �tv�ch �rien�s tawa�d �ounty Ro�d C, �hc��s� i� �r� ��.� pa�i� �n �t�� orth s�id� �g Gaunt�r Road C, ��r�m wh�ch h� ��m� �c�p�� v� t+ao cl�ar vi�ibilit� o� the �� l�i� 1��, �11 thc� oth�� lcs�s �l�t�g tY�e �r�a hav� c��r�s��.►� �i�c��:��c�. t��!�a' � l�r ,�� cl�a�r. Dav� �a�n�s�h mnd Hc�.��L� wa�t �o th� sitc wit� �1r. H�ims�n. It tu�n� out �h� �e�� i� l�t �in� is c�r� � b�rr� abo�t two �p�� , �t�u�, �h� £ou� �o�at. f�nce al.aowe�l tay o�dinancE wc�u�� ue th� �ap �I�o�� iac feest �Ibov� th� grade o� �hc bike p��iz. I� ��r� th�� he w�.�l r�a� ��ed � hic�her ��er�ce that hc� �u�g��t�d �� Qs��r9!, �nd �Q�c which hQ proposed tg rec�u��t � vAri�nce. I sugg�sted t,h�� four �oot £�r�c� would �a�}�. �u�� fin�, �tr�� anoth�r vari�nc� ,�ou�d not be appro- p�i��. 6. Gr�hi� r�r�s, 633-��3� Gr�tche�a T�r��ss was ii� �o ��lk �bout a si�n for h�r new ��phic �r�� Manu�acturing CQrn��ny ati �he southwes� corner of Fulham �tncl '��rminal �toad. She propos�s a ground� sign that w��eld be fort� inch�s hie�h ane3 �orty-eigh� inch�s long, made c�f m�sc�nry to m�t�h the existir�g structurc, Th� lacati.an of th�.� would be les� �han th� forty foot setback �requir�d in th�s inc�ustri.al district . . .. e Planning Office Hours June 24, 1987 Page 3 • We reviewed a potential location, suggesting that she apply for a varianc�, with the condition that it be a ground sign i� accordance with the size specified. 7. Burger King, 933-7773 Tony Scardino and Mike Nordstrom, both of Burger King, were in to review their revised site plan for their location at the southwest corner of County Road B and Snelling. Staff has reviewed these plans many times, and tY:ey are now being proposed for construction, including the redevelopment of the site of the parking area and the addition of the greenhouse seating area. There will be forty-seven spaces on the site, plus eighteen spaces in the drive-through. They note that a very small percentage of their business now involves people parking, picking up their food inside, and departing. It appears that the restuarant would need a total of sixty- five seating capacity. They wculd be applying for a variance to the setback for the building which is proposed on the east side, and would be slightly less than the thirty feet required. They also would require a variance for the loca- l.i�i�� of f-he drive-throtzgh as it relates to the setback along County Road B. Dave Janisch and Charlie Honchell discussed easements and • other requirements relating to the improvements for Snelling and B. The owner, Mr. Knutson, has delayed furnishing some of these documents. The easement needed on this property is for a walkway along the north side for County Road B. Mr. Scardino also agreed to expand the uccess drive width to thirty-three feet to provide for left turns, right turns, and access lane. �. Schmidt, 483-5985 Otto Schmidt lives at 2857 North ing a separate living unit at the We reviewed the City's policies duplex units. He may proceed rezoning the land to R-2. Churchill, and is consider- lower level of the building. and procedures regarding to make an application for I:�uggested that he first discuss the proposal with his neighbors, prior to considering further action. 9. Pini, 541-9804 Bill Saunders, a].ocal landscape architect, was in with Randy Baake and Anthony Pini of the Motel 6 organization, who are proposing to redevelop the old Victoria Station site for a 110 unit motel. T'�eir revised plans indicate a 7.10 units with 115 parking spaces. It will cost of $1.5 to $1.6 million. • They note that their typical motel development varies from 96 to 115 units around the country. This would be � Type 5, one hour rated, sprinklered building. The land is zoned B-1B and will require a site plan review prior to issuanc;e of building permit. �, ;• • � � . Plannin Office H• s Page 4 9 June 24, 1987 He noted the sides were to be wood siding. I suggested that he substitute brick as an exterior material. This proposal will likely be submitted for rEview at the August meeting of the Planning Commission. � July 1, 1987 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, JUNE 17, 1987 1. Dunwell 483-6701 Kaufhold, owner of Rose Tom Dunwell was in withhisrattorney. They informed us of Galleries, and John Vitko, and ro ress in obtaining the Lexington School site, their p 9 acre that they have submitted a bid of areOfee��gross,twith�41,000 site. The building is 51,000 squ square feet leaseable. Sixteen and one-half feet of right-of Wa is necessary for dedication on Lexington, and ten fee on Y County Road B. indicated their proposal to rezone�t�iatetirelsistressed They ested would not be appr p 3, which I 5ugg ro ram designed to maintain at least a the importance of a P g la field. A minimum significant portion of the existing p Y would appear to be the southwest quadrant of the site, so expressed concern about the impcludinq that portion I al in family homes to the ��outh of the site, e land fronting on Lexington, across the straeto�tiontof of th ested in addition to maintaining P �hurch. I Sugg ieces. the park, that they not divide theroperties� together, and Developers spend millions gutting P he re we have an existcing large site atlo ments�cation, and we prefer r�ot �o break it into small deve P he had proposed a small corner siteBat Ihsuggested�theytnot T Y section of Lexinqton and County R�olne a day when the entire do this, inasmuch as there may In that school will be torn down forh�ai��diateecornerecould be very scenario, the retention of t impo rtant. They agreed to go back and rWvise their plan, and will be bac}c next ��ek for further rev e 2, Bader 544-5228 and is looking Scott Bader is tmentZ deaelopmentn�and in Roseville. appropriate apar reviPwed various sites inditiesdofnthe�Cityprehens ve stressinq the positive qual Crai��i Waldron review�d various �Stances,programs that be available under certain c�.Yc for We Plan, might 3. Sch7_enker 646-1043 Cliif �chlenk�r operates Roaesia�bonehis site695I noted the and was in to discuss moving g ecial Use P��mits and varianc� tha�ha�retheSsimprovements Sp and the f act several years ago, proposed had not been accomplished. . . , • � � Planning Office Hours June 17, 1987 Dave Janisch got the file, and noted that on five foot setback was approved in the north the parking, subject to a private easement to the west. Page 2 July 26, 1984, a for expansion of the property to Mr. Schlenker notes that he has a visibility problem here. He further notes that he did not do the expansion approved because he could not afford it. We also talked about the Super America station to the south, which is a site 100' x 158' (the Rose Carburetor site is 100' x 103'). I suggested the two sites might be developed together, inasmuch as the Super America station will be for sale because of a new station they are building in the area (on another site). He has informed the Super America people that he would like to sell. This would be a good solution, as the Rose Carburetor building is a"soft" building, and it is not highly visible or work�ble from Larpenteur Avenue. 9. Nelson, 489-8857 Tim Nelson was in to discuss one of the signinq problems for the Corporate Center. At the southwest corner there is a slope next to the driveway, where they propose a ground sign. The grades inciicate �hat moving the sign closer to the right- of-way than thirty feet would make good sense. The sign is 9' x 6', and will be only six feet off the ground. I suggested they locate this sign accarding �ith the grades, and submit the appropriate drawings and application. 5. Wild, 633-1834 Ar. Mark wild operates a clinic at 2960 Snelling, which was buil� in 1957. An addition was added in 1971. He now proposes to put on a small addition. However, the existing building was apparently not properly sited when the addition was aclded in 1971, with the result that the setback on the north side tsid� yar�l) is greater than ten feet, and the setback to the south is less than ten teet. Thus, in order for the building to be expanded, these exist,ing setbacks, where they are less than ten feet, will require a variance. 6. Housing Alliance We met on the site with Arvid Ellne�s, President of Hausing Alli��,nce, and some of his assitan�s, and Carl Zechbaur, who is the owner of the con�iguous house to the east of the site, fronting on County Road B. Over th� past months, we and Gordy Beseth have been encouraging the developers to get together w3.th Carl, and try to evolve an appropriate screening and landscape glan fQr that part of the Housinc� Alliance site. We have not been able to accomplish this, so we met at the site to evolve a solution. . � . • � � } Plannin Of f ice H'ours g June 17, 1987 � Page 3 At the site, we agreed that there be a six foot solid fence, similar to that which was constructed further to the south, which would extend from the back of Carl's house to a point directly west of the old dead tree. From that point south, there would be forty�eight inch chain link fence to connect to the existing wood fence on the east property line. North from the point back of hi� house, there would be a forty-ei�ht inch chain link fence to Carl's front property line (south right-of-way to County Road B). In addition to this fencing, there will be fifteen coniferous trees ten feet high, and ten three-inch diameter deciduous trees, a11 0� which were located on a drawing that w� revised at the site. Arvid will give a copy of this drawing to Mr. Zechbaur, so that we are all in agreement. A revised copy of the plan will be �iven t�� ordy e�seth as a hasis for final approval of the landscape �ian and scr�eening for this portion of the site. 7. Eddy, 483-3233 John Eddy, Manager of Group w Cable TV, sent Ntike Ti�chert, of Prescription Landscaping, in with a plan for the berm a��. screening for the new par}cinq area nor�heast of the Fresent bu3:lding. The plans did not have adequate cletail. We discussed this with rlike, who is going to prepare revis�d plans. 8. Mein, 989-7994 Chris Mein liv�s at 1925 Victoria Stree�, and proposes th� deve�.opment of a r�ew Qarage can the south side of his house, which would orient toe�ard Victoria. This garage is proposed to be placecl appra�cim�tely gor�y-five feet back, t�►ough it is �.egally in his trant yard. Thu�, a variance is �e9uired to process before the Flanning Commfssior� and Cour�cil, as ha� been the case with a�ew of thes� types oi proposals over the past several decades. 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N r �. .I i.00 � —� �w� Y�'i..�.._.�f�'� `R'.@ {,` ��^-. �' � �� '��. �! �� \ S � Q S E � I L L � �-� � � : �� . �e, ., . �...:� -:, �� ±� �- � ��- - � :i � ��.. � -��-�- .: �, � t � �. �a ��. .� ...�,�.. .y :�.'� � t�..,._. 1e'R..� . � ' �,,;;�,,,,. �:�. .x....... :� � 1 �...f. . -^^_�'�.i r � ' ! a - ' � ...._ r —+"'��=� . �- 1 i f 0 l,j�� E T � �Ev�isE� ��z� il�l � �._��...�.�.a.L.�� .��. ��. ��`� __ �� .�--=-" a�1f �(i ' �s - � i( ( C �I��i� �� :��'_ �� i ��',�rs?��f s;��E�.__..J�i i�r�� f+ �t �� i '�� J�� ll �) �� .z.^bf � o o � o . <.,.-A �, . i0 � ; i2 = �� 4 .� �� !� � i7 �I i� � 19 `I 20 �i ��y�� _» <t.. � ��K • e. �r..r ese June 12, 1987 TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: �LANNING OFFICE HOURS, JUNE 10, 1987 1. Baake, 805-683-4613, Ext. 22 Randall Baake and David Reynolds, both from the Mo�el 6 orga- nization, were in to discuss their preliminary revised plans for the reuse of the Victoria Station Restaurant site. This is a 1.86 acre site an which they gropose to build a new N1ok�l 6 d�v�lopment, consisting of two structures, three s�ories high, with a 112 units, with a 112 Parking spacos� This organizatian has four hundr�d twenty motels around tho count�y, larg��y in the East and So�athwest ar�as. It f,s � pubi.icly held compeny, and all the deve�.apmen�s ar� company owned tno franchises). i�e r�viewed the dev�lap�nont reyuiremen�� and praeedu�es, noting �hat the 8-18 Distric� allows a hatel as a pe�mi��e� use, b�u� tri�t a Sp��ia1 U�� Permit fo� �itc� plan approvat is requirecl. �tr. Ja�ni�ch �c�viQwQd �Ih� d�a�n�g� cor��a�t�s �tn� $idc�w�lk �Q�uiramQnts, ��►o a�so c��sc�:�sc�Y $�q�►�, nc�tinq eh�+� ��Q var�anc� g��nted �o �tha� ��gn �ocat�on, i�n thQ c�se� c�� h�s �it�, ga�s with tha ��nd, �nd cou�,d b� rc��ain�d i� �e �s r►ot r�a�i� la rqe�c , Th�� art� going� +�o t��rc� l�c�� ar�hi�czc�� antl �ar�d��pca a�:ch��Qet� to ,prep�r�s �i+tc� �nd �rui�d�n� p��ns, w,i�� he� �n�ent +�� p�cp+��ing �� pp��►�l�on �or su�ni��can i�► ��c la�� week a� �hes rrx��h for �i�c� pl�� p��ro��l. 2. a im Fta ua.� 571 �� 57 3 J m �uqu,�, r�rQ� t�anaq�� c,� �hc ��p��r l��ye 0,�1 �ompe��r* ��d �hi�l�p Bc��re�, �or t1�� h��o Oi� Cor�p�r�y, wcra in �hei� pr��asQc� ne�w se��ice ��atisn co�n�r �� Sn�ll�ng �nd Caue�+�y Rca�d C. t�titla�r��t�rcr a�e$ �o� �har Con��ruc��on �nq�ir�Q+�� o rc�vit�w +�hQ s�atu� o� �it�� t�Q �or�l��est �hc�► r�o��d t��e�ir wi11�n$n�ss� �s �he� i��va �� re��riau� e�c�a- s3ens, to provide ��ivQwa� ��cQ�s c�tfi��r ner�h o� w��t to� bQt�h ) to �uture d�v�lop��Qnt�� or� t�� con�iguou� �l�r�ik {�rop�s� �y. tah�n �ro �ir�t r��t tt�� p�e�QpXe �nd �h�ir �r�hf tec� months �go, I sugge�teci �his a� the� ir�i�ial, bo$t appra�ch, su4aestir►a t�ha�t. pQrhaps, the Slawiks wou1� be in�e�es�� in pui:cM�sin� thQ l.and, �o as to cambir�� ultim�t� davolap��n� on t�►is key sit� in tho C�tye �iza word �►a g�t from �oth �ar+�iQs 3.s that the�► are not irt��rested in �urchasing �nd, at �.oas� for th� m�ment� �he�e appears to be no int�r�st on the part o� th� Slawik pco�le ta consid�r a joint �cce�s betw�an th� prop�xfiy. � • � � � Planning Office Hours June 10, 1987 Page 2 Mr. Janisch pointed out that the Slawik property may well not get a separate driveway access directly off Snelling Avenue. I have suggested that a joint driveway off Snelling could be advantageous for both parties. This is what should be pursued, inasmuch as it would considerably enhance the Slawik property potential if such acc�ss were to be provided. Mr. Honchell has not�d that he is not concern�;d about the two driveways on Snellinc�, inasmuch as th�r� is a m�dian strip hexe and there will be no left turns into this site. Tri�re wi11, in fact, b� nc� left turr�� of any kind into this �ite, and tha�t is why a jaint ecce�s aff Snelling, in coo�eration with the Slawik pc�pie, makes �► lat og sense. I�ug�gestc�d that they attemp� agein ta work ou� something witt� Slawiks, �nc� �o clocUmc�nt �h� �Q�ults in w�riting. Thcr qone��l app�oach o� �the� Kayo Oil people h�s bc�n anQ o� �1Qxibility ��d eoop�ration �+��h �hr� Ci�y, A �oint dri�ra�ra� �cce�s woui� �pp��r +�o ir�p�rovc� eonditions ��r b�a�h p�oP�rt�Y ok�nc�� a�td �hc� ��y. � , �ct�fb��, 6�1-042� �aycQ �+��a l�n�tie�e ra��an� r�� h� Ci��. ��di awr�� lc�+� r�� +�� faQt r�� daptl� C��+�.i�c��e � b��w�Qn �'a��vi� at�� t��ec�l�r. ��1tQ ��Q �oi�t ��Qt� Shorcw�d D�i�v� c�n�� hee�e� t�t �h+� �� nor�h �� o� �h� ��y�. Sh� �r�� tca di�i�e �Y�1� l�� a�� tara ��el�. �'�� r�� o� a�a�� o ��c �� o ��, ��a c�� r �� Q��a�� i� ��c��►� t��u�� a� ��a� �� .� ��,�. '�h��c �o�n� �� 1�6c t� t��c� ��l��n. ��i.��r� 1�� d �� a�� ►� �1�� v� +�!'�s ��t�. �i� ��ar� �h�� r�� s��►��i�� h�� n�a �, �E�dd�, �4.J�3-��3� ,�e�a� ��6�.� the �+��r�n� �±�r�� i��s �r�u� � �� ir► �a��a�l��. � ��n ��c�� h��,d t�� [��k �t��he�a� aa�� a �a�:�r� � n��a ��,��n w��h �n��h�� e�b�� e��a�� 1� �p��r��+ �,��r��. ,��t�a� ��t�� .�� r��r�n� i�n��e�raq � pr��ec� ��rm �n �h� �� id� e�� hR p��k,i�q l�►t, wh,�ch �hQ� ra�w h�u�€ p��i�l�� r��x��t��d. The� �a�a� tl��d noc �c��rtn �� tre �1�� t�a� �a�� a�►��tcd t� �nd ��c��e�d b� �h� Co��c�,l�. �tr. ��eh furr►��h�� p�F c�� h�� n �� i�r. ��1��, �� I �c�u�c��a� ��t � � �u.��Qd ��d�ec�pu �a��fl �t �� F�rQd. ��ra€�xm- ln� �o �t��t c�t��pt . ��t� ��r+�M �s��c tho bs�rm ��s I��an d��a�,�tcd on �h+� c�� sidQ o� the ��rl�i�g lo�, �r�d it is � matt�r oE rashapir�s� that app�a��iato��. h1i .�dcly c�xpr��sed c�nc�rr� abr�uC �ha �o�t o� buildir�e� ti�� dr�inagc sw�lcs, w}�ic1� is ove�r �om� 450 faet in l��gth, �ra� t�e �� sidra of thc la� �c� �t�e �c�uthoas� c��r�er of �he proper�y. . � . � t , . y Planning Office Hours June 10, 1987 Page 3 � I noted that this was a proposal in lieu of building a prope� storm sewer outlet from the parking lot, which could have laee�r� extended northeasterly about 130 feet to the intersec- tion of Victoria and Woodhill Drive. Dave Janisch suggested that they may wish to considl�r building that storm drain�g�e ou�let rather th�n the dr�i.nago swale, noting that this change would not r�quire Planning �ommissian and Council r�vi�w. t noted also th$t the parking lat has b��n buil� withcaut �oncrata curb, and that +this is �Qquir�d. John agr�c�d �hat h� would have �h� lc� propc3rl� curb�d as re�ui�ad. 5. �as�r 574-573A R�.c�ia d—�n� �an �fa�Qr werQ �n to d�s�u�s +�h+� pPo��fbla divi�ion o� �hQir lo� a� �eh� no��ha�st co�nar o� t��pl� &�n� a�d �t�oodbridgc�. "�he�r �a��e #s �a�ate� s+�vcr��y-�l�vQ �ec�� ram �thc raar lo� 1�n� tE�� 3e�� n�, �hu�, �r��i� a�. �ir�� foo� so��ct�c c�n �h� �ar,�qe� � �cd�n�� oot �a� m;�yht � ��s�bl�. �rm�ae�i��y �o �I�ta c�a��, t�e� ��ci:�in� �o� �ra� di�id�, 1Q�►v�ng a� n��y �aa� lo+� sixa��a� �o �he� onn p�op�� b�r �h+� t�a��. �� p�ea��d �ha+� i� `s �o�s�b�a thc�� cou�e� �►v� ��c� ��a��, � �nd g��in �dc��+��o�►�� ao+��a sa �ha� +�hQ �c�t w�auld b� se�vare+�� ,�vc �c��. �`�� o�� e��o�� h� �� tc� �h�t �ou�tt ��e �Qva��-�e�v�n �� i�a �r�dl�� "�"�� +�� a+�u�d � �ppraat,��c�l� �n� hu.n�rc�d ��c�� s��, �� t �� ec��a��z�� ln�. i .�uq��+�� h�� hc�� r��+��+ �h�� co��e�� aa��h �fiQi� �in�dia�� a��e�c�a�� Qi��1��0��, ��d ��n��c�r �ha �� rQ�� t��+��a �'�c�r �� o�� o �ea�� a� ��o�� u�th��, �r�a� �� b�� June 12, 1987 T0: FROM: SUBJECT; U J im Anclre Howard Dahlgren PI,�NINING O�'F'ICE HOU�S, JUNE 2, 19$7 1. 8u� 4�3-8G�6 ��o Ernio eurraw i� a rc�l�vr re��ent�n� c��nQv�avt� Kuhnoy. is� �h� a�rno� e�f � sc�va�n acrQ pa�c�l o►� 1�nti a+� 3047 W�� brir��e ��e��. T`l�� p�►�c�l i� 3�ndi��eed an �he �'oa�p�cQhc�n�ivts ��sn fa�r �u�u�a pa�� acc�u��,�t��n. A� no+�ec� in �n Qa►�� e��mo� �hi� 1�r�d i� ne� on �t�c� en��1��t a� �� i OOp ��+h�cta .i�� Q �au� pr�e� at �hi��► ,�� w�� ra��rcrd �arr�s��l� �c�� ►��. �l.�. �rs��ar ��r� tara ��on� ��t�rrc�+tc�i �� pu��nq +�h�s ��n�l �� ha►� ��ra�� 4n� i� .�mt�� e��+��, a�ha �a�� in �� a� re��r�+�� 1��or� �h� E��! ��nd th� �e�� 3�� r��r�vo�a�dl i��h�� h� p��spc��tiv� �pu��h�sct�� t� �� e� �.� �� 0 8c�� ►� ��nc�. �� p�� t�� . �� " � �� o� �� .��.�� n� �ct�c � � �� h+� ��+� � �� +� �� P �s�u��13 �a �h� ��n��+��c��h�� '�� a�� d�� r� �� 9 ��c� �h� ��.�� .aaa� s� �� . ��,��"� i�� t�� 4 �� i�� @+�� a�c �� M�� a�la. �� , ��r� �r�� . ��. �+��=�s�"� ��r� �� I� �� r�h�� 1�� :��as� �� d��c�� P� �.�� e�� h� �� +��t�1�� t�� . ��►�� ,.��,�� 4��a �� a ��, �� de��. +��_�� +� �� i�� h�� i�� +�� +�� '�i�� . '��¢ ��=��a�t� ��a��g� ��r� �� c��t��t� �� t��. ��.�� ►�� $�'�� ,�� r�� r�� 4Gp0 �� - �.n� ��d��3� �� 4 �'�� ►ro�� tr��a�� a�� a�� n� �� r��i��l�� u��c�d��9r� ��n� � ��d � �� t��t ��an �� c��. °�t�� i�� c�� +�h�i� ��t�r �� nrr� �3=� � bu� +�h� � ��m�,�n�r��g �tr�� t��a �h� n�r�t� �r� �u�c��n+�� anc�s� �=1. su��d �h�� ia� �pr�p►o�c� � r��t�� c�� tt�a�� •��iQ� ��o� R-� �Q �-�. �k�� p�op�rt�� +��c� ,�nr�� r� �i�� Co�r�� h�n�i�c l�l�n �� inr�u��r. ��.. �- . � � Flanning Office Hours June 2, 1987 � Page 2 � Thcy propos� to sub�nit their application documents as qu�.ckly as possSble, ao a� to g�� to th� Plannin� Comm,igsion for c�;;velopr�er�t revic�w at the July meeting. �� 3. Stub�nbe3rq� 48�-9444 K,$rl S�ubaen��g i� tha aw�er ca� a re�ide�nce ju�+� sou�h of �.av�ll Str��t a�d w��rly of �ict�r�i�. T`hi� hous� is immar- �d�at�1� ��n�iquou� +�o �ha ��ht-o�-+w��, te �r�tich an �d��- +�i�na� e�l�ht�en �aQ� w�o��c� � r�c�uirc�d t� �rad�cc� k��►� s��ncl�rd ��d�h. "�h� ��cs��m !�� t1�s� ho�� i�� c�tcrs� ar�+�hl� �h�� qt�i��san �Q��, ,��c! eMe �� s �urrc��tiX prop��i�rt� � ��rg�� p��va�� cart L�v��l. �� . ��'1��C�°! �� . �i�ll.�i1.�� h� ��`��6��1� ��1'�� a�h��t� �nar#�� v�� hs� ��+��tt ��i�t��l�� +� �a��h� �o a� �� b�� +�t�� h�+�� d a�� '�� c��a�h��r�� d�� ia� �t �� . �� .i��.�� h� �� r�►�:��.�� d �i�� a�� ►��a �� h� ��p�� i �� :� �� :�a��: �� +�� t ��c� ��can�l �a�d ��°� �i�� i�� .��a�� a�� o�a�d� i� ��. � �� a�� fi�� e � �� es� �� c�p�c �� d�� .�� w �� 6�� i�f�� .��. Y �M��,'�2t`��i� �.�� z'�ZX i��! � � �z�g �� Y ��`�BY�f� �� .� p �� _ � �� a� ��a �� az�� :�� :�� T��. �� ,�_�� . �� ,� �� A� �� * �� i� �� i�' ��+�� '�� '��p� ��t� � $� ��r��. '�#�� :� �� 4 �� j��.� ��. �+�� +� �� e� �°�x� � �� +�� t;� �� e '� � �� A �� P�� a�� +�� a��. �� ►`��i�Q �� 'q. y�s (,y�q{ yyp� �y �y �s {i� p{� �R3� �ANd64\f� �9��KdS o3� �� f ��6Eit �• `4W46i�� ocFl9� 4S� �. �9�1�'��Yd� itf'R �� +�� i�� ,��, �,�� +�� . �� h� ��.�� +� �h�� ui�� i�i`�� .�� [ �li+� �� +a�� un� KaEro �n�%�i� . �� r�� +�� Jt��j��' �d��C� ��t�� 6� ��L`.�1 ��E�� t�l�t�1�1� �'�E�� r�� t�+�� r� ��t� ��r �hi� ��d.��t b��n �� d ��, '�h� �� z�� 7 ��s!� �n ��i�. � �i S Planning Offic� H June 2, 1987 Page 3 Their question is whether or not these lots cc�uld be split, � so as to provide new 1�ots fronting on the south side of Skillman. i suggesteci that t�i.� is a question that ought to kae detcrminc�d jointly by a1I the neighbors affected, inas- much as each wo�ald i�av� the same op�p�rtuni�ty over a period of timev Th� a�ep�h i� a litti� shallow, ir�asmuch as 217 feet ciivided in hal� proc3uc�� lats of about 108 ��et in depth. �'h�ugh �uch lc�ts ar� d�v�lapal�le, they are far short af the more common d��?� in Ro�evil�.e c�f app�°oximately 135 fee�e ��;��g��, I s�a�g��ed �hm� thcy t�lk w�.th tt�eir neiqhk�ors to c�i�cu�� thi� pc�te��f.�l. t7l�vfously, if one dc��s it, the ,��,o� �� ,�,�� c�sd►�c tha�t �t is a��ropr3,a�� for all th� ��;�,��. A+� ��s+� ta�o o� th�s h��s�� p�c�r to ha�ve acc�ss to ��cz��dlr�� ar�gc� c�n �h� �or�hcr�y i��ti�lm�n) si�1� a� �i�� c��, �. ��+�� -�9�4 ,.._._.,�_ � �c�n�� F�*� i��+��n a�� b,�c�C �o p��s�nt tt��#.r rev,�sed s te �� aar �t�� n�ican �a� �l�eai� h�r�Q �� A03 �au�� [�cCarrot�'s ��w��d. �`h�.� �� t�e l�t th�+� �rt� ��$cct��e�i �reviousiy with ��m,� �i��1� �e�►� ��Q�� aa��n�n�, �r�d i� r3i�re�tly west �� G�a��p� ��►��n�a�e�'� i�� rhieh ��c�n�� c�r� ��C�rr-on"� Gak�� "�� t�� dl��d +tt�� o �i�r�� h�� c�� #�ncre�� ti�� e�� c�� +��r��t� ��a �h� ,�at ��a Er�t� �r�� r�� on�-�aif fctQ� to � �� t. �'b�� 11�a� �� ca�a�v� far�+� rc�or� �dd#.+�io� �na � �a��a �� °�� tY� a� �rta��h � �Q��, it� the�e ��°��, �� t��i��, "�he� �� Q�i��ck �eqvt r�cl 8�ix' � & VC� �a:�h s '�1�� p�� t��t �� 1� ��►�r�w� �ct�� a�s�e, ��►:��H �� +�e�� i�� r ��+�� a��" �ar�� and �d�.� � �� d � �e�� a►�� gAr��. '�E�� arapos�I ��p��p� �� R� � �� a�+�i�� t � �►i�ar �►ar�,�n��. �. 5��:' �� _� �,+�. .�� a� a��h �� ,�� .� �►�:� .�� n ��c,�v��ing �� +�� c�� +�a�rcT��nc� t�s� �Qil�� r� Lt'4tif��s.9t'}� �N#�Mie}i� YW��f� i� Ytiii�h�i�6��#.� �,i� w��.��9 •l�i��5e ��0i �+�� 1� ��er�� c�� nini-�t�a��, �nd �� o� �:t�e �xi��i�n� ��u��rat-�� fra� a�t�c��.� t��. �� t�e Q�sisting ��u�+��, �,�a� �� l�� m�t�� u�I.di��, +�.��h a�n� � con� ��r�� k��c��k ��.,r�a��aar� �,��h �r� a��.��c �ar+�iora o��ne�d �aw�►�d F��t�al��. ��u��"��z� tt�� kae�c�u�c� of che� unic�u� ��ap� of �i�3.s �ot, �nd �� 1�� tfiAt �g ITild4�3 t2� �� .�� ii� iL�t�d 1'��ii:3w,� c�y��.�� .�`. ��1�'. ��r��t? , �h�� et�c� �o�►��c�s��rl�+ p�L C�� th3�s �.ca� wauld be Vc��t adc3cs�i ta tt�� :ap��e�y t�� the e�s�. b�r. �*�l�l�r no+�c�d �h�t �Y�Q l,�ndawne� �c� �he e�st is int�xest�d � �n �au�ct��sinc� t3�� c�uthwestcrYy 1�� this �rap�rty which, it� a�fe�t, woule� ir�crc��e nc� dl�ptM o� his i.�nd and provicl� gLontaQ� �ar i� nr� Faiavi�w. � suggested tha� this r�light be t�he b�s� salution. � . p � �anning Office Hours � June 2, lgg7 Page 4 Mr. Pieper's use of t�e land seems to stress the reuse of the existing s�rucutres, with little emphasis on renewal of the site. 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L, - : - '� _ = - . ; =s .,, n ,tta_ - L �o..� � �. r � '� : - y.� c (R�! � � 16i0'� w.' w.��rSv. I _ " w� _ __ L"1^_i l�n _ Q 1��0 �Evis�o �DATE ](� : C=7��C�OC��- -- -- . n -- - C a•�•�z oWs �0 0�00o��o�r�n�(� ��.��1 �1� 1 ll �I a� �--, .---,r—„—,r--, , ' /2•26-7 :. �I I 0 �Ir ! I «I I 2 �) i 3 ;� i 4 .) I 5 gf !� � I 7 �I I 8 � I 9 «I 2 0�I �.��-n o� J � 2- 77 6tti✓ T4'` i ° � �•ie•n o�� .,. � � May 29, 1987 • T0: Jim Andre s � FROM: SUBJECT: Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HVURS, MAY 27, 1987 ! 1. Weger, 636-6906 Scott Weger is the District Manager for Ryder Truck Rental, and was in to discuss the adding of a small 24' x 40' x 14' building near the easterly side of their site, contiguous to their pump island. This would be a prefab, porcelain on steel building accessory to their principal use for purposes of storing records and parts. We met with their Regional Manager recently, who indicated their willingness to go along with our rezoning of the land for an office park. This expansion is essential to their continuance to occupy the property, while tk�ey wait for the market to build. The building will be beige in color, the cent�er of the property will make the exterior. The use is permitted the main building. and its location it inconspicuous aS an accessory use near f rom to 2. Spa)_la, 3� -4200 Dennis Spalla, Bob Ellingson, and Missy Thompson, of Fine Associates, were in with Tom Gerster, of KKE Rrchitects, to discuss their revised site plan for their property at the northeast cortzer of CountYP Road C and Snelling. Their propo�al now consi.sts of 46,Q00 square fEet in three buildings; one of which is a c�ne story, one a two stor�y, and a bank building, three stories. The furniture store is propased at three par•king spaces per thousand, which I feel is more than adequate. The remainder will be at five spaces per thousand, as per code. A motel would be on the easterly sidE of the site, with one hundred twelve units. Their proposal is to rezone the land to B-1B, which is a Limited Business District, with Special Use Permits for site plan approval. This is proposed to go to the Work Session in June, to the P.U.D. process in July, with a rezoning (from B- 1) to a lot split in August, and a pla�. in Septernber. This timing relates to the conduct of a tax increment district which is an essential ingredi�nt in developing the Rasidence Motel site. The layout works well, with an internal street system �rivately held and maintained, but with a good arrangement of buildings both functionally and aesthetically. 3. Bradley, 633-8084_ Sandy Bradley proposes to develop a full service car wash somewhere in Roseville, in con.junction with Ron Flannigan. � � � V 'ce Hours Planning Offa. May 27, 1987 Page 2 The total investment is approximated at $1.5 million (with land), and would involve four bays, tour prep., and one fu�l service line. While 1.5 acres is required, the building will have a full basement within which the reprocessing equipment would be installed (for reuse of the water). We looked lacations, sugges��d and 35W. at the Land Us� Plan, d�_scussing various possible including the future retail service strip in the vicinity of County Raad C, between Snelling 4. M�yen, 633-6333 Steve Mayen works for Louie Johnson, and informs us that he has an opportuni�y to get clean fill, and would propose to fill the southwesterly portion of the parking area (not currently asphalted) in an area approximately 9,04Q square feet, or approximately less than 330 cubic yards. Thus, a special permit would not be required� though a permit from the Public Works Director is required. He proposes to �ill this area for future use as parkzng, and to s�ed the property immediately upon completion �f the fill. I noted that if it is to be made into a pa.rking lot, it would have to be asphalted and curbed. Actually, it appears that they ma.y not need this additional parking at this time, though their banquet business is going well, and perhaps that is when they need the greatest volume of parking. Mr. Mayen noted that the rnotel is operating on approximately twenty percent occupancy rate, except at "Fair" time, when all rooms are booked. 5. Hermes, 646-7135 Don Hermes was in, who is one of the Hermes folks wh4 have owned the Hermes greenhouse operationa in Falcon Heights and Roseville .�or many, many years. Their Raseville site con- sists �f four and one-half acres, located north af Roselawn, �asterly of Cleveland (see map). They propose to add two plastic covered, temporary greenhouses, but are seriously interested in the redevelopment of this site in the near future. I informed them of the proces:� for getting a permit for their temporary greenhouses, which would be by applying through the Building Inspector, and referral directly to the Council. They also have a four acre site that they lease from NSP in Becker, Minnesota, in Sharburne County. We discussed the redevelopment potential for their Roselawn property. Being as the land is surrounded with single family homes, I suggested low density residential development as the appropriate end use. - ;; • � Plannin Office Hours g May 27, 1987 ❑ Page 3 6. Moses, 829-0626 Terry Moses, realtor, was in to discuss the possible reuse of the residence� i.n the Bolstad addition, northeasterly of Rosedale. There are twenty-two hames in this area, of w'.zich he has twelve who are willing to sell. We discussed the complications of traffic movements in and out of the site if it were to be redeveloped for nonresidential uses. I noted that unless access could be achizved off County l�oad B-2, via existing connections, that the reuse of this land at �his point might be very difficult. The problem is one of traffic on Oakcrest, and its lirnited access to SnElling, just north of Oakcrest. I suggested in the redevelopment of this land, if this were to occur, �hat the traffic and its impact on the neighbor�hood, and potential deleterious effect on County Road B-2, would be a significant factor. Such traffic would, of course, depend upon the end use. If such use had peak traffic hours differen,t f.rom the shopping center, this would be an asset. About eight acres of land ar� involved. I suggested that timely reuse of this land might be some years away. 7, Nelson, 636-6400 Tim Nelson was in with Bill Franke to revi.ew the timing and process�.ng of their application for redevelopment at the southsast corner of Hamline and Highway 36. In view of the de�.ay relating to a Library decision, they proposed to request a continuance of the public hearing on their proposed redevelopment for one month. We discussed the various options with respect to the Library decision, and noted our concern regarding the timing of such a de�ision, and its importance to the community. Mr. Franke noted he f�lt their meeting with the neighbors went quite we11 and, that at the end c�f the meeting, the neighbors applauded. I noted again that it would �.ppear that the massing af the structure replacing the Chandler-Wilbert Vault bui.lding is a matter of principal concern. 8. Krank 339-4200 Ron Krank was in with Jim BartlEtt and Gene Peterson, the latter being the developer of a series of auto ma11s in the Metropolitan Area. They propose to develop ten to fifteen of th��e, and have already sites in Eagan, Hopkins, Burnsville, Brooklyn Park, Coon Rapids, and Crystal. Apparently �he one nearest completion is in Town CPnter at Eagan, on the Federal Land Company property, and another in Brooklyn Park across from the Cub Foods site on Brooklyn Boulevard is nearing completion. � They propose to build such a center, which is a grouping of auto service oriented �acilities, on the property that Bartlett has optioned from Ruan Truck Company. . Planning Of fice Hours May 27, 1987 Page 4 Though they presented somc very nice drawings of ather malls they have done or are doing in the Metr.opolitan Area, I expressed my original con�ern relating to the i.ntensity of use on this site which forms the gateway to the office park district to the south. They noted that andrthat�there will hundred auto malls in the country today, be hundreds more in the near future. Bill Severs, from Construction 70, also joined the meeting after it started. The area of the site needed is three to four acres. Mr. Bartlett noted the difFiculties of using the site because of the easements. I sugg�sted that a fine motel and r�staurant had been laid out for the site, though i� was not developed. I note that the physical development of the site is not so much the pr�blem, as a use that is marketable today. I told them I would look at some of the existing malls they have done (Eagan and Brooklyn Park). I sugqested that they consider ways in which their use might be incorporated with a more intensive use. Mr. Krank sug- gested they would consider such possibilities. 9. Nelson Tim Nelson, with Bi11 Franke, also discussed a remaining signing problem for their Rose Corporate Ylaza office cievel- opment at the northwest corner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. Here at the southwest corner of the site, because of the steep bank on the north side of Caunty Road C, tney suggest that a low ground sign (not a pylon) would look best, similar to that which is proposed at the northwest corner of C and Long Lake Road. Here, however, it would be difficult to place it thirty feet back becaus� of the steep grade that slopes down to the noxth. I suggestec� th�y make a drawing showin� the section through this grade, so that an intelligent location could be det�rmined. If this distan�e is less than thirty feet, I suggested they apply fox a variance, noting that a low ground sign would be far better looking than a tall pylon sign placed further down the hill. 10. Low 430-1500 John Low is with the three duplex Lake McCarrons. C. R. H�ckworthy, the Con/Spec Carporation, the builders of sites off Center Street, on the east end of You will recall this development proposal by President of Con/Spec. They want to conside� moving the driveway to the top of the hill, b�tween the first and second house, rather than between � the second and third (counting from the North). They showed a drawing of how this will be done, and clearly indicated that this would likely save several larc�e trees. � page 5 • ours Pl�nning Office H May 27, 1987 hav� the written permission of Herb � They noted that they homeowner to the Klingbeil, who is a contiguous single f�ily the written They also will havethe principal north, at 1892 Wagner. who were permissior_ from the Hess family, to this project at pre- with M�s Klingbeil, W�re to get writ�en objectors along We agreed that if theY �.nterested in vious hearings. Would be ermission from these folVement ofrthi.sndrivewa� would p ect, that the mo the pzO7 six ga��g� table. 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Clendenen, 227-6291 Bruce Clendenen is the Program Director of Reentry West, which is one of three locations operated by Reentry Services, who run community corrections facilities for men and women. "The purpose of Reentry Services is to provide a community based residential program fvr referrals from correctional institutions, the courts, its agents, and other contracting sources." This organization is a private, nonprofit, tax deductible, operation which proposes to lease fifty beds in Louie Johnson's motel west of Snelling, south of Lydia. Mr. Clendenen notes that this program would principally serve persons being released from Stillwater or St. Cloud, for purposes of reentry to society, and would b� housed at the motel while they seek job opportunities. Another class of prisoner would be a typical DwI work release prisoner, sen- tenced to spend a short periad of incarceration. The organization has Forty clients in Reentry west, which is at 855 west 7th Street in St. Paul, thirty-eight persons at Ashland Hous� at 532 Ashland, and tw�nty-two at Metro at 449 West Lynhurst in the Midway (for women only). The operation would include a twenty-�our hour staff, and prison�rs would b� "locked in," but could �scape through emergency exits, thereby scunding an alarm. There would be separate eating facilitie� at the motel. Prison�rs would typically drive their own cars. Prisoners may do limi.ted �xercise outside, and would be restrict�d from other parts oE the motel. A three year l�ase is proposed. Twelve to fifteen persons would b@ on duty at p�ak hours, with a minimum of two at all times. I noted to Mr. Clendenen, my eoncern for the operation of such a facili�y in the immediate v;.cini.ty of a single family, residential di.strict both east and west, and th� entranc� to the college immediately across the stre�t to th� north. I also noted that the sta�f had recommend�d to Mr. Jahnson several years ago, that he not invest mor� money in remod�liny the hotel, but that it 3.s r�ally c�risalete at�d, perhaps, ought ta b� torn down �,nc� make way for a new, mod�r� hotel at this very fine site in Rosevill�. The leasing nf this facility for a three year period, and, perhaps �.onger, and to a greater �xtent, woulct merely proj�ct an operation beyond its time, and likel� hav� a deleterious impact on the nearby development potential in the prnc�ss. � � � Planning Office Hours May 20, 1987 Page 2 There is also the question as to the land use as applies to the zoning category. The land is zoned B-3, but an incarceration facility is not listed as a permitted or special use. I discussed this wi.th Roger Jensen, who suggested tha�t such a use would first require an amendment to the ordinance, and then likely the processing of a Special Use Permit prior to autharizing its use for the purpose intended. I subsequentl� contacted Mr. Clendenen, infox�ming ha.m of the City Attorney's views regarding the handling of the land us�. I suggested the use proposed might well be deemed incompatible with the neighborhoad and the operation of a motel serving �he public. I noted his rights to pursue the proposal, but suggested that an amendment to the ordinance to provide for the use and subsequent approval thraugh the hearing process woulc� likely be extremely difficult. 2. Van Housen. 522-2100 Tom Van Housen, former architect with Ellerbe, Inc., is nnw a Project Development Manager witk� M. A, Mortenson Company, who was in with Peter Block, of C�ldwell Banker, to talk about the possible purct�ase of the Eurogean Spa building, by Edina Realty, and remodeling and expans�.4n of that building to serve as Edina ReaZty's Roseville offi�e. The building now has 12,000 squ�re feetr and would be expanded to 18,OQ0. The buildir�g is a brick veneer, and has capaci.ty for one hundred twenty-six cars. The buildin� has a�urrent value of approximately $1 mi11i4n, oE which one-half is in the land, The office would accommo- date eighty to ninety persons, with an ul.timate value of $1.6 m�.iiio�., or $127 per square foot. The latter figure is a matter of concern inasmuch as you can build a new offic� building for $100 per square foot, Mr. Van Housen noteri that in these circumstances, �hey may el�ct to tear the building down and star� over. I discussed �oning, which is limited business, and allows offices as a permitted use. We a1.so discusse� other lAcations in the City th�t might be appropriate fcar their us� if they are �onsidering bui�ding a new structure, They are going to l�ok more closely at the numbers relating �o this site, which appears to be adaptable to thea.r user though the economics o� adding �o the building and putting in windows in the solid brick walls, etc., make it �omewhat doubtful as ta its economi.c feasibility, as co�npared to building a new structure. 3. Erickson �,646-1252 � John Erickson owns the Gold Eagle Dr.ycleaninc� and Laundromat at 1233 West Larpenteur. His building is 86� x 5�', ec�ualing 4,612 square feet, with a 918 squar� foot basement. Plannin Office • ! Hours May 20, 1987 LJ Page 3 � He has an existing sign on the roof, which is legal and nonconforming, but much in need of repair. He proposes to remove the roof sign (outlawed since 1959), and place a new pylon sign in front of the building. The new pylon sign would be 10'6" x 7'6", and may require a variance because of the existing location of the building and parking facilities in the front. I suggested that a new sign, replacing the one on the roof, would be appropriate, and that a reasonable location could be considered by the City Planning Commission and Council, though a variance may be required under the circumstances. � 4• C71son, 625-5289 David Olson lives at 1975 N. Victoria, and owns a total of 2.9� acres just easterly of Jim Casey's property, on the curve of Victoria Avenue. Mr. Olson proposes to add to Mr� Casey's recently approved P.U.D. by developing one additiona]. lot out of his existing holdinqs. Th� existing parcel is Lot 1, Block 1, and thus a 1ot division can accomplish this proposed division, coupled with a Planned Unit Development i� conjunction with Mr. Casey's previously approved P.U.D. Mr. Olson already has easement rights to the privat� roadcaay appraved in the PvU.D. for Mr. Casey; thus, the� proposed addition i� a lagical extension of the land division and Planned Unit Development approv�d for MY. Casey several months ago. 5. Palmerr 822-199� Paul Palmer is a realtor proposing to sell th� Ow�sso Marina property, anci was in with Ray Farrell, who lives in North Oaks, who proposes to dPvelop a medium ciensity, multi-family housing development on the Marina propert kie su six unit townhouse, and I su Y' gg�S��=d a duplex un.its would be mor� a��eSted that, perhaps, three tenant mass of any structure e�rientedat�wardathe� lakeC� the His program would include keeping the existing house, tearing down the old, decrepit duplex, a part.ion o� which is on th� public right-of-R�ay, dedication that require� ten feet �or Victoria, �nd prepar�.ng a cietailed lan of the development oi the land with thre� duplex units, p�°posed I alsa suggest�d tha� the land might be �conomically developed by simply divi.ding �t into three single family lots which, in Roseville, have considerable valu�, even thouc�h these 1o�ts would front on Victoria. He is gQing to consider his opt,ions, and passi.bly arrange a contract purchase for the l.and and consid�r a dev�l��ment proposal of some type. � The retention of the marina facilities, in a limited way, may be possible. This may have merit as a community service. Pre�,ious prdposals have included a developm�nt of a convenience store on the site, with These ideas were dis�auraged as beingo1ane inal�s, et�, location, and likely unsuc�essful as a land use ppropriate proposal. n U � � Planning Office Hours May 20, 1987 C� Page 4 6. Seltz, 647-1869 John Seltz was in to discuss his possible purchase for a seven acre lot on the east side of Lake Owasso. This parcel has a limited frontage on Woodlynn Street, and consists of seven acres. Theoretically, it can be developed for one single family house. Other developers have considered extending a street through the property, though this is economically unfeasible because most of the land has very poor soil (�.argely swamp), with the high land being a narrow strip along the east side behind the single fami,ly lots. Thus, it would be economically unfeasible to develop the land with a public street, tor a single row of single family houses. The real challenge here is that this property is shown on the Comprehensive P�.an to be acquired for park purposes. It would be a logical addition, and an excellent access to tY�e park area already owned to the west. Mr. Seltz notes that the land is available for $75,000, which is exactly what was being praposed by the ewner four or five y�ars ago. Inasmuch as the land may be purchased for park purgoses, Mr. Seltz chooses not to proceed with development plans. This inqufry, however, suqgests that perhaps the City should serio�,�ly consicie� the purchase of this land in the near future, if it �ver intends to buy it at all. As a separa�e parcel, with access to a public street, the total seven acres appears build�ble for a single reside�nce as it exists. Once this Y�app�ns, its purchase for park purposes would beP obviously, considerably mc�re expensive. 7. Pham, 481-2463 Toan PY�am is a iepresentat:�ve of the Vi�tnamese Buddhist Association, which operates a Buddhist Temple in the old M�a�ller-Bi�s Fun�ral Hom� north of Minnesota Street. They propos� a small sign at th� exact location where the tormer sign for the I�ueller-Bies F'uneral Home existed. Chec}�inq the locatior� and th� ordinance, it appears that this sign is legal, inasmuch as it is below the fifty foot allowance provided for instikutional uses in an R-1 District. No var�.anc� or action by the Planning Commission or Council is requireci. 8. Andrews, ?89-4419 Fr�nczs Andr�ws is looking for tc�wnhouse and apartment sites in the City af Roscville. One of the si�es he is looking at � is at the intersection of County Road C-2 and Old 8, which is indicated on the Com�arehensive Plan as a commercial site. 0 �, • � Planning Otfice Hours May 20, 1987 Page 5 • This site was formerly occupied by a gas station, which burned several years ago. It is the site where Q Petroleum had proposed a new gas station a few months ago, which was resisted by the new owners of condos across the street in St. Anthony, at the southwest corner of this intersection. I suggested that this site would be an appropriate one for townhouse development. We also looked at other possible locations in the City. 9. Troje, 636-1862 Walter Troje lives at 2755 Huron, which is at the southwest corner of Judith and Huron. He proposes a new garage which would be twenty-six feet from the public right-of-way, rather than the required thirty fe�t. 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Backes, 944-7100 Ron Backes, representing the 5helard Group, was in with Bruce Jones, architect, to review their final site, landscape, engineering, and architectural plans prior to their bidding out the project for the construction of their new strip shopping center on Rice Street. Ron Backes is a long time Council Member in St. Louis Park, and this may contribute to his very cooperative approach to his working with the staff, processing and effectuating his permit. We went down the list of the conditions attached to the Council approval with �tems as follows: They are putting in B6-12 curb and gutter, not curb only, throughout the site on the periphery of a11 driveways and parking areas. � The roof on the canopy over the pump islands will match the canopies originally proposed and approved over the store fronts (this should be very attrac- tive). � The sidewalk will be six feet wide, one foot from the property line, as prescribed by staff. The private driveway (Outlot A on the plat) will be moved slightly further to the east, thus increasing the width of the grass strip on the west side. Three overstory trees will be added on the south side of the center (none previously shown). Instead of two driveways at the southeast corner of the site, there will be a single driveway combined with Steichen's. Charlie Honchell reviewed the geometrics of this driveway, and approved them for construction with minor modification. Charlie noted the entrance system can be moved slightly to the south, but keeping the power pole in the median. Signs above each store will be a maximum of 26 inches high, with a small sign on the face of the canopy. (The 26 inch letters will be above the canopy.) There will be a pylon sign for the service station set thirty feet back as required, and within the area requirements. � e • • Planning Office Hours May 12, 1987 Light fixtures Mr. Backes will review. shall be of the "shoe box type," and get a cut of the f ixture for staff Trash will be behind brick walls, to match the exterior walls of the center, with metal doors. Page 2 A description of the center line of the easement will be provided, and a document prepared providing access to the contiguous sites at the northwest and northeast corner with B-2. The parapet will be three feet, six inches, which should amply screen the heating and air conditioning equipment which will be located down the center post and beam system in the building. We approved the landscaping plan with the addition of the three trees. The landscaping plan is practically identical to the plan as submitted and approved. It appears this center will be very attractive. The connection to, and joint circulation with Steichen's has been achieved. 2. Songstad, 835-7600 Joel Songstad is a realtor, working with Joann and Alan Mattson, owners of the duplex at the northwest corner of Roselawn and Lake Street. They had a preliminary drawing indicating a proposal to divide a se�venty-eight foot lot from their properties, of which the duplex occupies the southerly two-t!�irds. Th� remaining lot would have a 120.5 feet of frontage on Lake Street. I suggested they prepare a revised lot split drawing (the property is platted), indicating the exact location of the duplex so as to be able to ascertain the setback lines to the duplex. This development appears reasonable for the addition of a sinqle family lot. 3. Franke. 487-2041 Bill Franke was in to review the signage proposals for their Roseville Corporate Center project consisting of five buildings and a Comfort Inn. The Comfort Inn will have an 8' x 24' sign on the building, on the east side of the pent- house. There will be one additional ground sign, 4' x 12', set back the required thirty feet f rom Long Lake Road. The remaining buildings will each have a sign, except the taller building in the southwesterly corner will have two signs--one facing northeast, and the other to the s�uth. I explained the City's sign regulations relating to the percentage of elevation area of a structure facing the � street. In all cases, the proposed signs for the five buildings are within the seven percent maximum allowed under the sign ordinance. �J r� �� Planning Office Hours May 12, 1987 � Page 3 The signs proposed will all be well under the maximums, which allow an additional one-half square foot for each one foot of distance the sign is set back from a point sixty f_eet from the center line of the right-of-way. This would apply to the Long Lake Road setback (which is considerable). With this regulation, a sign may be up to 300 square feet. Most of their signs on all the buidlings will be 5' x 15', equaling forty-five square feet. The one sign on the ID5 building (in the southwest corner) will be 7' x 20', equaling one hundred forty square feet. This will be oriented to the northeast, at the to� of the structure. There will be a 6' x 9' ground sign at the southwest corner of the site, also set back thirty feet as requi.red. They propose a pylon sign at the southeast corner of the site. This sign has not yet been designed, but they will be setting it back thirty feet from the right-of-way as required. Mr. Franke also noted that they are scheduling a proposed meeting with the neighbors, relating to the Wilbert-Chandler vault site �or May 21. This meeting may be at City Hall, and a representative from the City, who may be Craig Waldron, is requested to be present. 4. Bundlie, 482-7656 Craig Bundlie owns a single family house and lot on the south- east shore of Lake Owasso, and is contiguous to a similar lot owned by Rob Reinhardt to his northeast. Mr. aundlie brouqht in a site plan of his lot and his northeasterly side yard, indicating his proposal to build a 16' x 32' swimming pool. He propases it in his side lot, so as to keep it out of the 75' front yard setback requirement for the lake. His side lot is slightly too narrow for this purpose, and the poal will thus be 4' 6" from tY�e side lot lin� rather than the required ten feet. We reviewed with him the pracedures and requirements for processing this application under the shoreline zoning ordinance. He will obtain his neighbors' writter� permission, and the drawings and application will be processed directly through the Council. We asked him also to show the proposed fencing to sec�are the pool, and that this application would bE reviewed by staff and passed on for Council review at the next appropriate meeting. I�. appears that this proposal is don� this site. A swimming pool less than standard, in my opinion. These lots � depth, and it would appear that their ' the best method for development. as well as can be on 16' in width is sub- are ample in width and pool, as proposed, is • Planning Office Hours May 12, 1987 � U Page 4 5. Breitkreutz, 633-8451` Tom Breitkreutz is one of the partners in the Kolstad Company, which manufactures custom trailers, largely for the bottling companies in this part of the country. Customers include Midwest Coke, R. C. Cola, etc. They also specialize in making double bottoms, the second trailer in a two trailer system now allowed in many states. A few years ago, this company was owned by the Space Center people who own the building and property where they are located, on the west side of Walnut Street, south of the railroad tracks. They now have eighty-five employees, and are growing rapidly. They purchased the company from the Space Center when they were down to about thirty people. The company is now owned sixty percent by Bob Crossan Midwest Great Dane Trailer Company) and four of theWoriginal employees (one of whom is Tom Breitkreutz). In any case, the company is now very successful and growing, and they want to expand on their site. Thus, Mr. Breitkreutz was in to review expansion and zoning requirements. The manufacture of trailers is a permitted use in the I-2 District, which is applied to this property. � T�hey propose approximately a 12,120 square foot addition to the existing 35,518 square toot building on the existing six acre site. They may propose to Space Center to their property, or tY�e other ogtion would be for a newrC�h�ge term lease on the site, including �he e.xpansion. It they cannot expand on the site, they would move somewhere �lse. � Based on the amount of developm�nt proposed in relationship to what is there, I sugg�sted that asphal�ing the remainder ot the existing parking in the front, plus the exp�nding parking, would be appropriate. I also suggest�d that curbing the front access drives and boulevard area, and forty foot setback would be appropriate. I suggested th� driveways be r�duced to tl�e maximum thirty feet now established. Mr. Breitkreutz indicated his agreement with these improvement conditions. They may propose to expand the building matching the existing material, w�ich he not�d to be a porcelaini�ed metal. I suggested that a concrete block addition or similar would not be encouraged. Depending on their negotia�tions with the Space Center, they may be back for more developme�nt consul.tation anc� proposals. 6. Letendre, 633-5312 George Letendre is with Rosevill.e Pro�erties, and wa� in with the following t�enants of their 525 Plaza R�tail and Service Center at the northeast corner of Oakcrest and Fairview: John Haaland 636-7000 Total Fitness Center Gary Johnson 781-3131 Cabinetry Chuck Fried 633-0101 Cabinetry � • � � s Planning Office Hours May 12, 1987 � Dick c:abillot 639-0601 Box Stop Walter Merz 636-3864 Print Tomorrow Page 5 Also present was Rick Palmatier, 645-0223, f rom Universal Sign Company. Their visit was for the purpose of discussing a replacement for the existing pylon sign at the southeast corner of theix site. As a shopping center, this site can be 225 square feet. As a single business lot, the maximum signage can be 100 square feet. Inasmuch as a shopping center allows three pylon signs, I suggested that, in this case, putting up a single pylon at a 150 square feet would be appropriate (as they propose). I noted, howevex, that the pylon should identify a"place name" which identifies the location. I suggested they use something other than the current name of 525 Plaza, which s�ems more lik� an address than a marketable place name for the center. They are going ta consider a revis�d name that will be more effective as a locational d�vice. On the pylon will be listed the eight bus3.nesses �.n the center, all af which will be within th� 150 square feet proposed. This n�w s�.gn will be far mor� attracti.ve than th�e old one, and hopefully will do a b�ttier job of id�ntifying the location. Signs on the building are $omewhat ineffective for mos� of the building, because th� structur� was laid out so that visibility from Fairvi�w is diffi.cult for the shops facing Oakerest. That's because they are set back furth�r to the north, on the westerly side of th� }auilding. They will proceed with revis�d plans and will b� back for appropriat@ buildinc� permits. 7. �ednarek, 935-6126 Bruce B�dnarek and Paul Seiferth, both from First Minn��ota Federal Saving$ and Loan, wer� in wi.th Jim Mo�lier (from the Planning Conuniss3,on ) to review the landscaping plan for ti�e First Minneso.*.� F�d�ral �xpansion w�st of L�xinc�ton Avenue. They noted that they had met with Mr. Blank�nship, who occupi�s a residence to the narth. They brought alorag pictures of this contiquous prop�rty, which has a high, rec�ntly repaired wooden fence along the north line of th� First Minnesota site. Mr. Blank�nship indicated �is desire t� have some tall over- story tr�es that might tend to scre�n the ar�a abo�e tt�e fence line. Actually, there are �xisting large coniferous trees that� contribute to the screening alr�ady, on Mr. Blan- kenship's property. I suggested, and Mr. Moeller agreed, that replacing the five proposed arborvitae trees with seven, would place them as close together as would be reasonalale so as to a�tempt to create this screening impact above the fenc� line. � �1 I�J � Planning Office Hours May 12, 1987 Page 6 They also met with Mr. Kluge, who owns the apartment located to the west. Their parking lot is next to the Minnesota Federal site, and Mr. Kluge indicated he wanted more openness rather than a fence or heavy screening. We, therefore, agreed that a series of Ammur maple trees with the arborvitae would be appropriate on the west side, as they originally proposed. They noted that the meetings with the neighbors occurred on April 15, at the First Minnesota offices. They will get back to these neighhors regarding these proposals. 8. Spalla, 332-2561 Dennis Spalla is with Fine Associates, and he was in with Tonn Gerster of KKE lrchitects, and S. E. Thompson, al�o with Fine Associates. They brouqht in a revised site plan for thear property at the northeast corner of Snelling and County Road C. The plan has been substantially improv�d by moving the Resid�nce Inn proposal to the easterly half of the site, and concentrating a flew office builcling and a new bank building at the immediate intersection. A two story offiee building and a thre� st4ry bank and office building are proposed. To the north is the one story Slumb�rland struc- ture p�eviously discussed. Th�ir prablem is that they don't have firm commitments on the office or khe bank buildir�q. T suggest�d that proceeding only with thc Slwnb�rlar;d k�uilding r�ould be inappropriate, a�d that the City would ��rant id�ally some commitmer�t o€ tk�� mor� intens� multi-storied structures before consid�ration o£ a r�xoning for �he land. The property is now zan�d 6-1 in its entirety, and I sugq�sted that a B-lb would be th� appropri,�t@ zan� for the us�s propos�d. 8-lb allows restaurants ov�r 5,000 sguare L`eet ant; r�t�il over 10, Q00 sguarc f�et. Tt�is is the same z�nc that was appl3.�d to the remain��r of th� �in� Associates prop�r�:y to th� nor�h�ast (across th� ��rvice resad�, with the �xcegtion oF th� Comt�n building which is xoned B-1 ( pxima�ilg► for off ices ) . Mr. S��11� inclicated they would continue to wark on commit- m�nts t� the sit�, and will be back with revis�d sit� pl.�ns. I su�ggest�d also that p�rking l�ss than five spaces pe�r thousand would not b� appropriate for this bank and office location, and that th�y shou�ld consider building a parking ramp tca accommodatc the ��sired int@nsity. I�ncouraged taller structures, and more intense and eff�cient us� of the land in all pf my discussions with Fin� Associates regardin� th� use o� this proper�y. • Planning Office Hours May 12, 1987 i Page 7 • 9. Kenned 488-7661 Dr. John Kennedy runs a clinic at Lexington and Roma, at the northeast corner, and was in to discuss a proposal to replac:� his existing 8' x 4' sign on the site. Rather than repa�.r the sign, they simply want to replace it with a si�n of th� exact size and location. I noted, in consulation with Gorciie Beseth, that this is appropriate, a,s we have done this in previous oc�asions. In this case, the sign which was originally built thirty f�et bacl� from the right-of-way, the right-of-wa►y is ��ow less than thirty feet bec�use of the acqt�isition of additional right- of-way for Lexington Av�nue. Thus, the s.�gn �.s lec�all� non- conforming, but we have consistently allo�red the replac�men� of a sign in the same location and at the same size. 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K:afl i��s�� S�. �+=�,�-J:�� agene� rlac� _„�., �:20 Huron St. C•0:1 � �'�t[� �!. �4•�� D „ Flytht► St. J:4 Pi�mi�' C9t. �:95 ;��5�� !.ti E.;17i19 Iona Citcl� C:l$ I�rfmr�� C�,r� D� n� � i�st R�ri�netc� ��.; 6�b Iona Lane C.S, .ORlfs�20 _��.a..,,, P�ricr�r �m�. �-�.1-�D:S �� Iane St. ••� : � e � �.i�,r ��, �•5 ��4e►-*+ Ave. • K:18 Ir�ne Gircle ��.� �� " t�l�r f.�u+r� 0-6� 6�rersYt�s�d�=�e J:4 Irenp Court r -,.. p;•l8•w.- .s �,.�ar ti_ �sl�l��r Ra�. Q� 1+� �E:20 Irene �t. E.�.H.1•�� P,� I�e�ata� Ave� 0:15-16 � �"�. '�-�� eler Ave. E.F:7 Josephine 6td. �1�� ' R�� , 94=�,:Z� Ith�eler St. A,B,I,J-7 �udith Av�, t:10-13,��'� IRi� L�t. dM t► S, �.3 lYild�r SIt. A,1•5 � �'��0�,�.�� kCl� Rrd. �:9 '�dillifiam St. 1,J:19 , �+b. .:1T , � �,�". �:I�-13,i6.19 6iil�o•r Circle E:lI . LakeSt:� --� -.-F.�.--�.�.�• :2 iGo�,a pl�e� �:I,Z�7-12,I5,16�,1� Idflio�w Lac►e E•11 lakeview Ave. ,"1� +� �ar� Y�sta Ct. 1.:11 �bridg� Circlp G•20 Larp�nteur Are. 1:11�20 i��l1� �. �:� 1�bod6ri�ge Ct�urt 1-20 Laurie Road H:3,$,12 6tvs�1� l�r�t. �1s2'-1�,17 1iao�dbr*dg��t. � A-' _:2A r! sf�a Lexi�ngt�n Av�. A-L;Il� ��r! l�. �I � S J:3-11 .� , �� Lindy Rv�. l,l:l �i��s Si. I�:�I-13 r.��'`� �}�:9- 0 , 4, ,2 Russ�li Ct. d:� a�- ,..w..�.,.....�..,�.,.��..:.m.� .. ,.,-.. �. �,...�:.s � '• ..�,#.l„� a. a � ��" � g • L.. � �� _ �' � � � � . . , !� � � �r. � � . ,� , ,: � , � � �. � � � � � s .� . � '� � , : �' �► � � � 'V � �` � � � 1 �i 1 � �� *� M ' es • • May 5, 1987 T0: FROM: SUBJECT: • Jim Andre Howard DahZgren PLANI�ING OFFICE HOURS, APRIL 29, 1987 1. Lundahl, 933-3011 Dick Lundahl is the architect for tYae KAYO service station and convenience store redevelopment at the northwest corner of Snelling and C. He showed us new drawings of a wa11 sec- tion indicating a prefab steel structure, but with full masonry foundation and four inch face brick exterior, which would appear to meet City requireme�ts. The site requires a five foot variance to the placing of the canopy along the south side contiguous to Cou�.lty Road C, where they are dedicating additional right-of-way. We talked about signs indicating that they would have to be thirty feet back if there is more than one pylon and mor� than sixty-four square feet in area as pex regulations. He noted that the station may be known as a"Jet" or a "Connoco" (not yet determined). He noted also the building would be done in earth colors, and that the site plan would be adjusted to indicate landscaping above the underground tanks (where he had shown asphalt), This is timed to proceed to the June meeting of the Planning Commission. 2. Huebl, 482-1979 Mike Huebl owns Lot 23 on Shady Beach Road, where he proposes to build a deck and a gazebo thirty-five feet off the share of McCarron's Lake. His house is set back a substantial distance, and there is a series of terraces with a pathway and stone steps leading down to the beach. On one of these terraces, he proposes to build a deck for seatin The shoreline regulations restrict developmentpurWo��ein seventy-five feet of the shoreline without Council approval. I suggested that a structure such as a gazebo should be avoided that close to the water, but that a deck slightly above ground level may be appropriate. I su procead with a scale drawing and an elevation asggetteWould appc�ar from the lake. I also suggested that he approv�l of affected neighbors, and that these bealindicated on a copy ,�f the section map showing their location. It seems, given the circumstances here, that an appropriately placed deck would be inoffensive and in keeping with the spirit of t;:e shoreline zoning regulations. � � � Planni • ng Office Hours April 29, lgg7 n Page 2 3• Schreier 633-1488 Matt Schreier and his son, Jim, operate the Charles Cabinet Company at 3090 North Cleveland. three lots with two houses the cabinetrshorty consists of car garage, all of whichcis zoned R-1 and is� l�gallyslnone conforming since May of 19�9. south side of the property (withhtheashop�beinghthe near the building), is 16�1/2 x 22' and was recently damagedebrest fallin� tree, They propose to replace it with a 26� x y2 a garage, which thev are able to 4' wh� are relocating out of the "Woodbridger�are�e �hompson's, Pictures of �he new buildin� indicate that the new structu is aesthetically more compatible than the old, but t�e r re lem is that though replacement might be construed as maintb- nance, the new structure is larger. I indicated that I would �iscuss this with the Ci�t �his might be accomplishedrnewithoutdingiolaty �n Which nonconforming use rules, ing the The Schreier's have been there thirteen years, havi purchased the business from Don Charles, ng indicate they get along very well with �heir neighborse�er's would h�ve no difficulty in producing a signed statem�nt fro� contiguous neighbors supporting their proposal. m I diacussed �his with Roger Jensen, who suggests that i would be appropriate for the Schreier's ta tak� their re uest directly to the Council who could then make a q allowing them �o vary from the normal nonconformingduSenrul�n as a legislative preroga�ive. es I, in turn, contac�ed Matt Schreier, suggestin� that h p�epare a�etailed site plan accompanied b e structures involved, and a requ�st be aubmitt�dcforeconsidere ation to the Counc�l through the City Manager. Mr. Schreie indicated he would procee� on that basis. r �. Olson 483-1541 Ann Olson lives at 320 West Brooks, and was in with Bil Hansen, builder, to show us a 1 season porch on the rear of her home�sal to build a three unusual shaped lot, and the building af aS14,�Xson has an season porch will place the structure withi� about1seventeen feet of the rear property line. The existing house nearest point, is thirt ► at its line which angles off to thensoutht fc�eating aea�raproperty shaped 1ot. The back of the house, as it exists, �a�ea�4da1 26' deck, which is a�lowed to extend tnto the rear X being at first floor 1eve1, without a roof. Yard, It appears that the first floor plan of the house makes i� difficult to add the three season tian. Attached ta the porch wouldcbeaa 12� Xother loca- replacing the existing balcony. , � 14� deck, • � Planning Office Hours April 29, 1987 I suggested that an application for minor variance accompanied by a site plan, floor plan of the exterior elevations, written approval of affected owners, and a section map indicating the location owners (which will now be standard procedure where property owners' approvals are required). 5, Spalla, 332-2561 Dennis Spalla is with Fine Associates and was back Kranke, architect, Bob Kueppers, and Bob Ellingson, of Fine Associates, to review revised proposals development of the triangular shaped parcel at the corner of Snelling and County Road C. Page 3 should be structure, property of these affected with Ron the latter for the northeast The current scenario includes a 17,000 square foot retail building, a bank/office building of 20,000 square feet {two floors), a Residence Inn of one hundred and four units (two floors and thirteen buildings of eight units each), and an office structure of 21,0�0 square feet (three floors). I again encouraged them t4 consider a multi-story office and bank building at the immediate corner at the southwest corner of th� site. My intent here is to encourage a more intense and efficient use of the land. � Ron Kranke would be the architect for the Sluinberland rPtail site, and discuss�c� aesthetic fea�tures to merxt the highly visible locatian at the nortYr end of the triangle (next to Snelling Avenue), He noted a�.so the more "exotic" d�sign utilized by these people a�. a site on the north side of Excelsior Boulevard, east of Highway 100, west o� the Best Buy Company. I suggested that this location and proposal would be more acceptabl� if acGompanied by a multi-story bank structu�� a� tk�e immediate corn.er. In any ca�e, I expressed concern about raisi.ng the apparent height at the building and the development of parapets to screen any rooftop mechanical equipment. � They also discussed the tax increment impli�ations on this site as relates particularly to the Residence Inn proposal. Craig Waldron noted �$20Q,OQ0 to $250,OQ0 �ax increment, which may be payable aver a fi.ve �.o seven year period without up front bonding. They are going to consider our comments and suggestions, and return with revised and more detailed plans, 6. House, 625-7951 Dr. House owns a larger lot with 560 feet of frontage on the north side o� Gluek Lane (in the south central area of the plat ). H� has a buye.r wk�o �aould like to purchase the easterly portion of his lot, and was in to discuss pos�ibil- ities ot division. He has already talked to all of the people in the area, except two who were out of town, and has obtained their written �pproval. The proposed lot might have approximately 290 feet of frontage. All of the lots that exist and those divided exceed the minimum lot standards, of course. � � � U Plannin Office • r g s April 29, 1987 e Two lots were divided a few years ago without opposition, though about ten years ago there was a proposal that was resisted. Being as the proposed division would meet the minimum standards, the question is one of acceptability to other owners in the area, which appears not to be a problem in this case. we discussed procedures and requirements. Dr. House will likely proceed with a proposed division in the near future. 7. Franke, 636-6400 Bill Franke, J. D. McCrae, Bob Vanney, Dave Putnam, and Tim Nelson were in to review a revised development proposal for the Wilbert-Chandler Vault factory and the residences to the south on the east side of Hamline Avenue. The current propo- sal is a seven story office building to the north (replacing the vault factory), and a three story building to the south wi.th a two level ramp, generally in the northwesterly por- tion of the site. Charlie Honchell commented on the traftic and circ�ilat.ion, noting the importance of the traffic analysis. Mr. F�anke indicated that they ha��P hired Jim Benshoof, who is doing a traffic analysis. �he entrance comes directly off the signal at Commerce, divides, and moves in and out around a traffic island from which access is provided to the ramp. The access has been moved from the east side of the site ta near the westerl.y portion of the ramp, getting the traffic away from the single family residences to the east. This is an improvement over previous plans. Total square footage would be 101,750 in a seven story building and 48,600 in a three story building, for a total of 150,350. Four parking spaces per thousand equals 650 spaces, of which 277 are underground. Having a significant portion of the property underground, of course, is an asset asethetically. We discussed the visual impact on the resid�ntial neighbor- hood and its importance. They r�oted their scheduling of a neighborhood m�eting in the near tuture. We also discussed the dedication of additiona�. right-of-way for Hamline Avenue which will start out at sixteen and one- half feet in width at the south edge of the property, moving to a wedge point at the north end where adequate right-of- way already exists. They are in the process o£ preparing the EAW. They have and are dicussing some tax increment impacts with Craig Waldron, which appear to be an essential ingredient in the financing for the relocation for the vault f actory, I expressed our concern regardinq t'he timing of an application and procedure in �iew of the uncertain nature of the Library solution. � �� i � Planning Office Hours � April 29, 1987 Page 5 • 8. Roers, 636-7778 Bob Raers and Scott Morrissette, of the Ground Round Restau- rant, were in to discuss their prouosal to add a deck on the south side af their restaurant. The existing restaurant seats two hundred sixty-nine, and the new deck (patiol would accommac�ate forty at full capacity. It appears then that approximately one hundred parking spaces would be needed for the res�.aurant. There are obviously far more than that in the area of the site south of the proposed new entrance drive. Al1 the parking, of course, is shared with the shopping center, the restaurant, and other uses on the site. There is more than adequate parking on the total site. I suggested that this proposal be part of the new site plan review coming up for the shopping center as a whole. I unde.rstand the arrhitects and consultants to Mrs. Slawik are preparing this for review �t the June meeting of the Planning Cammission. 9. I�assing, 535-7353 Tim Hassing is looking tor a site on which to build a new hause and is considering Lot 5 of Block 7 of C. W. Michaels � addition, which is on the north side of Brooks Avenue at 1035. This is a seventy-five foot lot, and there is a fif- teen foot easement an the west side for a major sanitary sewer. This easement also runs across thirty feet of the fron� of the lot. It appears the house plan he proposes ta build, which is thirty-two feet in depth, would intrude slightly into the thirty foot easement. This distance mav be a foot or less. I suggested that this intrusion into the thirtv foot setback co�.�ld be handled readily with a minor variance, inasmuch as this lot has a gas line easement across the rear of the property as well. Thus, th� building envelope is slightly less than thirty-two feet. Mr. Honchell nated that permis- sion to intrude on the easement by that distance could be obtained. `�he other option is to redesign the house plans so as to avoid any intrusion into easements on any of the ti�ree sides impacted. He may proceed wi�h that soluti4n or apply for the minor vara.ance . In any case, this is a difficult lot for which a variance to alleviate a d�.mer�sional hardship would be appropria�e. � � , ~� . NI V �.1 � � � ' V _�I � V � � �' V �� ..! � r/ �� ° • • ' � • " � � � r � �lit�_st •. �• '� �.:o � . . � .. / ,� � � �' l�i�,�' �-.� �: ' � j� � ' . '�, - -- __ • _ ••• y .�r • � ' � /ta.as • .� _ -� Y� ...: �3�: ' '- �� - - !C!0 ' A • � / cr:�w� � � � �R^" t[ -- � w• �t�1 ' a � : � ^'{y� �j�! I J,�� . ' � • �D _ • O9 ��'i,, .� �1+IJt_J �FSa� +� i , : �:. � � � ~'� �� jj� �` /� �� .I .�• _ ty• � f�� : N soo� ,i . •r . ('� �. 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"� � ._ _. , � REVISED DA7 �� , �=—��.� -� � -' '0 2-7•72 Dt3 E ?o oG�C� ��..��"�J � � - �_�i � - c ,. 5 �, _ _ -- _ —. �..___ ___..��r�r;ra�� I �f �� .2 �1I �� ll �I ar— ' �_; 6n •,x � 10 �^ I i �I 0 2 �� 13 i� !� .� I 5 �) I 6 `� 17 �I I 8 � I 9 �� 2 6') 9 •�,L rz- r� <=.. • �•��-1i O�t' _ _ May 5, 1987 • T0: FROM: SUBJECT: L� Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, APRIL 23, 1987 1, Simx�son, 633-7700 Jack Simpson, owner of the old gas stofi�Lydia nandcaSnelling business at the southwest corner enues was in with Scott Lindholm toShionuthattsitep�SThe Av , bility of building a self-service car Wa and 150.85 on the site has 141 feet of frontage on Lydia, llin Avenue Frontage Road. The south side of the site is Sne g 128 feet, thus the parcel is a trapezoi . �h�y presented a very preliminary site plan indicating nine elf-service car stalls within the structure, entered from s The principal Pro�blem the north and exited from the south. small and the exit here, howev�r, is that the site is very om the south, for instance, had 15 fe�t of space from the fr The building► as proposed, wouid simoly not property line. f ine piece of w�rk on the site. Jac� iealiz�s he has Wa��sy�.o use it mor� property in a key location, and simply �fficiently. est�d that the land around him will lik�ly, at �ome z S'�g`� b� red�veloped to more ef f icient reasonable point in time, a�� Pi�f�ta�� ,,�S�. When thak tim� comes, a s�lf-servic� car h mi ht well no� be the most eff�sicna self-se�vicQ was 9 orooertY• H� note� some interesting f ac Wi�hin �he two to car wash needs about��i4seP�rH�nn�� on� in Hurnsvill� a� a maximum thrc@ �L1� Trunk H�.ghway 13 and Clig� Ro�d whici�hWs�rkl�n��h�ns�a� se�ms Making the building smaller to ma�� tio quickly �ecome unr@asonablW dl� bc h�lp�uleS �'x��P�c�hat Adding of £ ic�s to th� bu i l�iing � �here would lae no plac� to Park. t aoacaxs as th�ugh this use for ttnis very small site m�Y b� I .. imx�ract i �� 1 • �. Kraa�k 339-4200 Ron Krank was in with D��m�c wi.th Tom Gerstn�r, possiblc iand us@s fo� the County Road G, wh�re Fine addi�ional land from MN/DQT• plan prc�p�s�s a 17 , 000 sguar� foot Slumb�rlanc� a Resid�nce Inn in the nor�.h side of thc site, �ite, and a thr�e story� offie� building an th� � af �.h�, �;te, w� reviewed agaia �he City's ef f icient �nd �rore intensiv� use of. the land. �p�lla oE Sign Mssociat�s, alor�g KKF At•�hi.t-ects, to tal� about narth�ast corner of sn@l�u�cha�ed A►ssociates has rec�ntly P Their r�vised � s tore on �.he center o� the casterly sid concerr� about Planning Office Hours � April 23, 1987 Pag� � • We talked again about the possibilit of a new bank Y on the corner, and its prospects for being a multi-story structure. They noted that they are working on that idea, and are also visiting with the Residence Inn people in Wichita. Craig Waldron revi�wed the tax increment implications of the Residence Inn d�velopment, which would appar�ntly require a land write-down with a possible seven to ten year payment over tim� withouk bonding up front. w� noted that one hundred and four units would be ab�ut an $S million investm�nt, at �100 per squar� foot which could produ�e an increment in the vicini.ty of �200-$250,000 per y�ar. �hey are going to go back to look again at w�ys in which rhe� can combine th� most intensiv� uses on the s3te. 3. Su�tt�r, 452-23�0 RQs� Suetter was in w�th hcr fri�nd, Andr�a. Ros� liv�s at 1953 L�xington, wh�re she has a 1.29 a�r� site with a fron�age of only 69.55 f�et on Lexingt�n, She has been in before ta�kin� about rezoning th� la�d to build something of ax��t�r valu� than her cxisting �inele ��mil.a h��sq, sh� said sh� a�ouYd like to s�11 the hous� fo� about �7Q,pOp, a�d that the �Q00 per month rent �oesn't �ov�r �� g�,�qp t�x�&, � p�i�c�ple, inter�st, etc. I noted that the land f� �oned single f�mily ir�nediat�l� to th� noxti�, and tt�� Me orosc�ect� for �onit�g it comtnori.c$1 are probably non�aristcnt becsuse tt�e �.an� imm�diately to the soutt� is zon�d fAr mul�i��amil�r ho��i��. The land is so n�rrow that �ven a faurp�ex mi��t be difficult to c�ev�lop on this site, and i�� extreme depth mak�� i+� di�Ei�ult to u��. I �ugr�ested tha� ir� v�e�r of h�r continuoc�s m�n��l concarn, th8t �he should pexhaps b�st list tty�: prr��ertv wi�h � c�ooc�, realtor, get what it's worth on �he mark�t, P�nc g�t out. �he is an �bs��ntee l�ndowner, anci is now conc�rned ab�ut the peopl� living in the house gr��dua�ly w�r�cki�q i�. I sug_ gested �h�t rezariing of tth� land and tryinc� �o ge� great�x v� ].ue f rom thc land wi th �.h� idea of t�aring �owt� t hc� hous� i� impra�tic�l. 4. Tr�amm-633-1760 Maryln Tramm is cnntinuing �o pursue th� pu�chase of th� Ncllie Bufton estat� n��h��. W��e�2�,. ag th� a�c��w�st cc�rn�r af vi��r�i� ahd ��intv R�ad e. This is p�op�rty wh�rc� f� he tri�d to gc:r the contiguous n��.ghbars to tY►� east to s�ll af� the r.�ar o� kh�i�- lots to form a new single familr� sub- division off � r��±w cu�-c��-�ac, Thes� prag�rty awnt�rs are appar�ntly nc�t i nterc�st��±d (�� t�ast not �nough of them) , so � he is loaking �� wavs to dev�lop the lanci. I suggested that if he could put tag�th�r �wo acr�sr it might be a P.U�D. The other options would be a dupt�x �r perhaps a quadrominium on �he �ite. � � � . Planning Office Hours April 23, 1987 Page 3 5. Palmer,-822-1998 Paul Palmer, realtor, was in to discuss the MaHenhadrapplan on Victoria, on the west side of Lake Owasso. showing six townhouses on the site. He inquired about the pnssibility of v�rious forms of multi-f amily housing and commercial zoning. I noted the difficulties in rezoning land on a lake such as Owasso. I suggested that dividing the land into quality single family lnts might be more appropriat� than attempting to qai�n v��.u� with up to sir. townhouses on the site. I revi��wed m�diurn d�nsity zor�ing r�quir�ments and standards. His nrPli�ninary plans showed parkingl on both sides c�f th� strucr»rG, which would bring��tina�yropriatc,the� 18ugg�st�d T stigg�st�d thA� �his w� �1d AP �ha� a�y pl�n�ina kc�!n �n mind the following: 1. T�he land i.s v�ry sha 11.c�w i n ci�;��rh� . 7.. Any nna��ivo bu�ld�� would mee� w�th r�si�tancc nn f'ha �,�� ra�rt�r o�rnc�� arounc� th� laka. 3. Rezonine� can �en�► sin��n f�mtly 1�kashar� is di��icult. 4. ,��,y ticavelopmant !�r��s�l �s��c� h�v� t�o t�a ��1 dQsignoc� �nd quitQ s��i�i�. �►. T��dir.�r i�n� �� +�c�r� €e�� of �ic�ri��w�u�d�k�avu�tou�urn+ and ��r t��f f��c c�� ng �ut �� t ict �go�und� on the �,i��. A��n, �,r ��ac�c��Qd cca�rcc�a��c�t�an on �fiQ �in�l� ��s►i��► ��r�rca�� . �,. L��t��, 933-301� Dick �un�da��. aa�� n r� ��►�r r1�� xr��a�sod p��►n �o� �h+� K�Y� Oil �it� �t �h�: ��hw��r �o�n�� QQl�builc�]in�dl ��oo�ing��+� C , ThQ�` ��o�st� �a ►t�t� � �t' .� f � �hcz cl�s�� d�t�i�� uc�c�Qs�s �h�� ►�tt�c�u� a ps��imt�k�� c�und�- �.ic�n �his aroulcl !au ��ar��'�a '�+�� '��d th�►� �n thig ]�oe�tion � ��ruc�u�� t 1�� h� �u�lit� �� l 1�r�ck wc�u ld bQ �QCQ�sa �y . `Tha �ite pl�n has bcc�n eu�°�od a� w�ll, so �h�� n�w � f�va �eot v�ri�nca ,�� r�c��ir�d. Tt�i� has not bac�n �A�1i�� a�s thu�, t�ei.s �ppli��tian wil� h�on O� �1�.119�L�C��.4Ct��.� ��v�l��d. w�il� �ho al�propri�►�n �p�lic�t P i ��La �� . Lu�,a�r,� �r►Ar t �,��,�.a �Qn�a�z ��a�. u��, the d��ign �ngine�r owt. of Te�nes��4, �� infa�m him o� tha�� conccrns �a as tc� �ncnt�r��umber�is�1D�A0�251�7252,hig�ar c�ualit� site. Bill Ha� �rn�,n s I have sinc� contactec� Mx • Fiartma�, At�d they �re proceec�ing with revised pl.ans� � � Page 4 Planning flffice ours �pril 23, 19�7 7. Lun;dber�, 48�-�5�� Otis and Joyce Lundberg live at 987h�ooha�el��ndr1PtoPsee us put an addition on their hou�e• T 1� in �he �ast, and have revised their ��Q�W��p�nsi.on of the sugge�ted, �aro�idinc� for a thizty-t�r�� hou�� into th� z�ar �yard, leaving a 6' 4" ��tback whic4� kable i.n this c�se. �nn�a�s ta be war T�,� ac�c3iti�n in�lucle$s�nabl�ddim�nsion�8proclr�cEs�the R�ducing these ro r s�tback w��cM S�eel t� �n�ropri�t� in thi� cage. ga��g�. � � a�� g. ��ei �x-Richagcisan b33-232� o� �h s�� a tne�t�r�� of the �►�ig��o�o w��rc� inetaVseokiin�or- IDc�lla+o�, ea�� o� Kamline A�c�nua, me+�ior► �n�d opin�ons f re�m ��Q sta�f r��g wi��er��C�ane]lc��' �he L�,1��'a�`y �fld thc �t�t� propasal fc� �►aul+� Car��ny �rt�p�r�t� and th� s�nc�le f�mily �ame� to �i�a sou�h Chc�r�of � Persov�� p�e��nt wc��e: A. �. �Ju��e�, �4�1 t�c�� 1c��,��g� �ta�ilyn sQntc�rr220��No�+�h��la� Lnainc� p��k �c�r►ceily� ��na�ine �ern�e� v�r�cel��, ��0� t�a�t�� F�a�b�ctr� I��h, �115 Nort�► ��in� ��i0 �� Q�� .�oc� K�►�uG�n�� 1397�S�ndha�� Je� �' gY Do� �ai�vt��tl�. �44� ��cQ M��n�� .•��r�1�.i��D��.��c�cadl�atl�� R�cha�� . #� , 1�7� t��s�� 1i�hw�� 36 ��r�o1d �t. �ahn��r�, N�rm�n v�n�e��, l��a «a�� Coua�+��► Ro�d � C��m�Q� c�d tCi�y C��man� �ou�►t� �� Q � ��b Ht��n. �"�7� �cllr�� pa� �t�*ic��c�-R��a��►son. 2�6� �I�w�d Avcr�ua ��a�� 7�L�o p �r�sc��+� �� v� ,��r� i �e�h r �"r� i.� ��].d�or�, "�m� aut�wail, �nci How�rd Dahl�i��n. �,�� c�c��eomod ��rcasQ f�lks to ��'��un�� l,i,cnLibr�r� �e�r�� nn+��+� �•�*c�rr��a�t€�d ��i�a ��►msQy Y ��d that Dc�n S�lvr�rd� �� Co�flw�ll��s�gTom��unw�11� ��tson, c��tn�i.imRc�, wa►� ��casan� � �r�hit�� E�r th� Rams�y �'our�ty �ibra�y. w� i�n�armed �h�� 'i ��Q�famil�rn��s�.dantiain�n�ic�h5�r� d� l��t �otis impdC 4 oi? �_� e. ��ocis, �nd tl�a�. w�: 1�a� �� ' i E�`�formed�us��h�y� ir�t�rrded ��o J�N pec�ple, al�l�ough �t��y h�d i. apply, �v�n though t11� P�1b1iG Libr�ry sit�u��ion t�a�� t�ok bc�n r�sQlvod. � � � • Planning Office Hours April 23, 1987 �� Page 5 Tom Dunwell explained the various opt�ons for Library expansio�. Wg not�d our concern about the acquisition of houses on the �ast side of De�1hbo�hoodsmueIf �hatti.stdoney impact on the quality of the n 9 howev�r, th�re ��e WaY� �o reduce th8�solut�ly no access�to rha� »nd�r this scheme thcre would be Dollwood s�rvi�q the Library. we al� agre�d that it wo��ld be b�sttion�ori�rbtoC considering �at�l� �he ti�brary �x�ansion ques . �n oth�r fr�e ��ter�risa�, �evr,lo��n�, �� odove�opm�n� in � the are�. �ne of thQ awn��s wh� liv�s in ��S��Qr��o !�oin�eouk��tha� son�s �ha� c��o�p ��i�� h1y wA� ai� bu� +�wo of �rtn� �wn�r� �ha�c �� $vc��Qs�o the�i�o�sibil;��y �hQy �11 w�nt �o ��• �h��i+�o�� whic� wau�d p�ovv to b� r�� i�Q L�b��ry ca��up��n� o� adc�qua�a �� z� �h�ugh �h�r�* � � ��rr►b��Q�ti�on �� wha,�ha� o� no� thc� e�or��m�� aul�l � ��asona �1�. 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" � ; �z' EE ➢� �� 1Y EI i1f ��,�.�„i��.s:�.r��:..,,.�Cm ��. �P��.I�...�r ��_�� ri-��o:� �� y,l «� ��1 �� i �'� �$ �; 'i �Y w�l �� 1 tl � rci� � o � �, �2 � o� �� i� �� i� � �� .� i� �� e .� �� .�� 20 � +� +��4�1 6��: � � +��f .�ii �i w � � April 28, 1987 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren �� SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, APRIL 15, 1987 1. Renchin, 770-2351, ext. 401 Jerry Renchin lives at 1167 West Ryan, on one of the atreets currently being improved by the City. He has a 75' x 134' lot, and proposes to widen his driveway from 12 feet to 16 feet directly in front of his existing garage. This plac�s the driveway practically on the property line whereas a five foot setback is required. He is, therefore, applying for a minor variance and has the written approval of the property owner next door, who has quite a wide area between his drive- way and his property line. The Renchin lot is 75' x 134', and was built in 1957. There isn't a direct hardship here, except that on 75' lots with single car garages, the capacity to store two cars is limited. The ordinance, in fact, requiras parking spaces for two cars on the site. This additic.lal width gives him room for a second car without impeding the movement of the first car parked i.n the garage. 2. Etten, 489-8361 Henry Etten lives at 403 South McCarron's Boulevard, and propases to put an addition on his house which would place a structure within a foot of the north property line. This lot is landlocked, and the north proper�y line is a side yard line ordinarily requiring five feet. I suggested a reduction in the size of his additions, which did total 36' 4" to 34'. This would allow for a 12' wide room plus a 22' garage, leaving a setback of 3' 4". This would appear to be a workable arrangement on the site. It appears logical that the additions proposed should best be on the north side of the house, replacing the exi.sting slab garage. The remainder of the site is adequate for the larger home. 3. Orfei, 984-7726 Ron Orfei was in to review a proposed minor variance for Melvin Biedler at 938 Transit. He proposes to add five feet to a seventeen foot wide garage, placing the garage within five feet of the property line. In this case, the side 1ot property line was adjusted though � no new lot was created. Under these circumstan�es, we agreed with Mr. Honchell that the five foot setback required in this neighborhood would remain, and th«t the slight adjustment on the lot lin� would not trigger a ten foot setback. Thus, no variance is needed to develop this lot as proposed. • �. • Planning Office Hours �+pril 15, 1gg� • Page 2 4• Brandenbura, 482-0102 Joe Brandenburg is considerin g purchasing the Lake Owasso Marina, and�.-_�as in to review potential development and re- development.for� the property. He would like to tear down the duplex and.buaLld a gasoline service and convenience store. Odd1y enough,- the realtor handling this property had discussed this,_`very proposal with us a week before. I suggested to^Mr. Brandenburg that the required zoning ior this developme�nt would be highly unlikely, and that the property sho��d be looked at for its basic value in accor- dance with existing zoning--that of single family residents� I noted that-the appraisal on the which seems to be Property is for $350,000, pretty high considering that the ultimaf�e use of the la.:t�d (depending on grades) would likely be three single family ��.ots . 5. Nelson, 48g-gg57 Tim Nelson of JLN Development was in to review status of their proposed office project on th� east side of Hamline Avenue (Wilbert-Chandler Vault Company property and others et : a 1) . �, Mr. Nelson noted their having met with Tom Dunwell and Norm , Vinnes from ti�e Library Board. Various options open to the . Board for expansion of the Library were reviewed, which _ seemed to resolve to the following four options: '1. Extend the site easterly to Dellwood plus one lot to the raorth. • a 2. Expand to the rear lot line of lots fronting on Dellwood, _ ; purchasir�g:.three single family h4mes to the north and the duplex. � �� 3• Expand existing building and purchase existing homes on Hamline tca,Commerce Street. 4• Move the�Library across Hamline to the west and the lots in and around S Purchase . andhurst. Mr, r Nelson also suggested the possibility of the Librar Board occup�ng the southerly most office building in their proposal. � " I suggested that it would be difficult for the City to pro- , cess a proposal from JLN without the Library Board having made its decision, and having been acted upon by the Count . Board. It appears the problem here is that this y yet take some time. process may � In the meantime, the JLN Company wants to timing prablems of their own. They noted thateCatbecause of pation is needed, and this concept was discussed withrCraig Waldrora in �approximate terms. the staff is not su Again, it was point�d out that . ,. pporting TIF -on this site. • • • Planning Office Hours Page 3 April 15, 1987 � Mr. Janisch noted that handling of traffic and drainage will be a matter of concern. It appears that the JLN people may propose to proceed with the City review process prior to a Library Board decision. It would appear that in the public's interest, the Library location, scale, and property needs should take priority over a private development even though that development could conceivably be adjusted to also be in the public interest. 6. Byng, 488-5572 Norm Byng was in to review the property at 194 West County Road B-2, where they propose a lot split on the south side of County Road B-2, creating one lot of 140' and another of 75.97'. An additional three feet of right-of-way would be required for dedication on County Road B-2. Tt appears this lot split i� reasonable, and within scale of the immediate neighborhood. 7. Philister, 571-3304 Harvey Philister repr�sents Philister Enterprises, which is a family owned }ausi.ness, the father ot whom is Maurice Philister. They own Rosedale Estates at 2755 and 2855 Rice Street. These are the two apar�ment complexes initially ! 3eveloped by Norman Mauschau. The wes�erly portion of this property on which the apar�ments were built faces Woodbridge and was originall� zoned R-2. Rather than build duplexes, Mr. Mauschau propos�ed to use the density in apartments and leave the land open along Woodbridge. This was done with the result that there is now a large strip of open land on the eas� side of Woodbridge, some 135' in depth. This property was �iever praperly fin3.shed with black dirt, and apparently there has been difiiculty �rowing acceptable grass in the area. The neighbors hav� comy�l�ined in the past. Mr. Philister is inquiring as to whether or not it may be appropriate to d�velop this land for single family tao�nes. I nated that inasmu�h as �his is the arrangement that was made with the neighbors many years ago, it is reasanable f�r them t4 r�ly on it for the future. Howeve�, if their visits with the neighbnrs suggest that single famil� hQmes would be supported by th� nei�hborhoad, this wou�.d then maDce a reascanable propo�al. It appears that the open space is not utilized b� the neigh- bors ar the occupants of th� apartments today. Under these circumstances, perhaps more eftici�nt use of the land would be �.pprapriate. � We nated that the criteria of the development would have to look well, work well, and be support�d by the impacted neighbors. • • Planning Office Hours April 15, 1987 Page 4 8. Twombly, 332-2999 Don Twombly is a realtor out of Minneapolis, and was in to review the possible reuse of the building formerly occupied by the PCA in Roseville (northeast corner of County Road B-2 and Prior), as a branch bank location and operations center. The first floor would be banking, the second and third floor would be for the operations center, and the fourth floor would be leased out. The building is currently owned by Evenson, and was designed and built by Buetow and Associates. It appears the site could be adapted to bank use, there being 67,512 square feet of floor space, with 350 parking stalls. 9. Borg, 633-8150 Paul Borg, Business Manager of the Roseville School District, was in to review a potential request on the part of the School Board to add four temporary classrooms at the Roseville High School site. Two structures would be 28' x 66', and one would be 28' x 30'. The purpose of these units is to provide for the "bulge" of students that will be pres�nt at th� site for a two year peri�d beginning in the Fall of 1987. The units would be electrically heated, and would be on the � Highway 36 side of the building complex, thouqh at a considerable distance from the highway. The units are stained vertical cedar exterior, with a gabled roof with asphalt shingles. The units would be hauled in similarly to "manufactured housing," and would reside on concrete founda- tion pasts. Checking with Steve North, we reviewed the manner in which the �emporary school buildings were handled for the private high school some years ago. It was de�ermir►ed that the method was one of r�ferral directly to the Council for a "permit �or temporary buildings." The high school is, of course, a permitted usc in the singl� family zone to which the high school site is currently zoned. 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' [� : �) � :. �' �� ' — - L � � � �' � � � . � N N �• � - � • N �� u s�.,..�.�, __ _�--��_�--;� �L_ y � r—�� _ �' E T ----_ __ _�� ' —.•.-�_��– - � ►�,o REVISED DATE y�r'2�� (C�_�____) J'�7 `�( � ` .1�:( � €( �( C �� z•�•�: n.a �� -----•0 sr�0��01 'fl �i �! 3��• ��I :il � �i �� I �i �I �I �� r--� r---� .�—..—� .-_..�—� �� ) ' :�=:6n •," � 10 �r f I :� E 2 � I 3 Y� t 4 .� i 5 s! i 6 �! 7 �I I 8 � f 9 z, 2�? '� 1� 2- 77 <LN �� • i-�e_» o.� __ T �, • A ril � p 16, 1987 T0: Jim Andre FROM: SUBJECT: Howard Dahlgren � PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, APRIL 8, 1987 1. Fine Associates 332-2561 Bob Kueppers, Bob Ellingson, Dennis Spa11a, all of Fine Asso- ciates, and Bill Brezinsky, of Suburban Engineering, were in to review a revis�d preliminary plan for the use of their nine acre site at the northeast corner of County Road C and Snelling. Their plan indicated a three-story Edina Realty building on the east side of the land (next to the service road) with 21,000 square feet, a Lazy Boy retail outlet at the northerly tip of the property (a one-story structure) with 12,000 square feet, and a branch bank o�fice to the south of that with 10,000 square feet (ane story). The remainder of the land in the center, between the s�rvice roacl and th� intersection, was left undesignated. Ther� would be a private road system which would ultimat�ely serve the total development. I expressed my concern with the devel.opment of a on�-story Lazy Boy retail store at the north end �of the site. This is � a very prominent site immediately �ontiguous ta Snelling Avenue. I suggested �hat a branch office building with a bank would be more appropriat� at that corner than a�az�r �oy retaii store. I expressed my concern that the clensity of d�:velopm�nt on this very fine piec� of property in Roseville might be too low. I suggested they think af the site in the terms af the kind af dev�lopment th�at was appropriate far the nortla�ast corn�r of Highway 100 and ExcelsiQr Boul�vard .in St. Louis Park (wher� multi-story st�ttctur�s w�re proposed and approve�l ) , Craig Waldron also talked about Resid�nce Inn potenti�als� which would be three-story units, similar to that which ha� d�vel,oped in Eden Pr�air�.e where it has been v�ry successful. They talked about the iranchi�e holders of the R�sidenc� Inn, which se�m ta be split b�tween two potential bui.lde�s in the Rose�ille ar�a. Bruce Goldst��.n and Jahn Mier have �xp��ssed ink�rest in th� Residenc� Inn concept, Cxaig sugg�sted that Fine con�tact the National R�sidenc� Inn r�presentat3.v�. Ellingson stated h� would do so. Th�y ar� goinq to consicl�r aur comments, and �e back with r�vis��i �lans. 2. _B_r__ueaqemeier, 227-762�. Ray Bruegg�m�eier was in to talk about the develop►nen� ot a � singl� familx residence for riim and his wife on Lake Owassa. we review�d th� lakeshore zoning ordinance requirements and 't Procedures and the necessary in�ormationedinhtimeefoQ�l��b1eWb��o��ubmit Council at the next regular m�eti the ng. • �� L� � Planning Office Hours April 8, 1987 His proposal conformed to ordinance revisions to the site plan indicating the retention of existing trees. Page 2 requirements, with some exact home location and 3. Songstad, 835-7600 Joel Songstad is a realtor with Realty Center, who was in to inquire about the property at 2339 Roselawn, which is an existing duplex on the northwest corner of Roselawn and Lake Street. This property has a depth of 198.5 feet (north/south) and width of 126 feet. He was inquiring as to the feasibility of developing a 75 foot lot on the north/south sid� of the property. It appeared that this would be neighborhood, depending upon existing duplex unit. f�asible and in scale with the the exact loeation of the 4. H��en, 48a-2265 t�ary Ann Hansen was in with her son-in-law, Richard Cox, t647-0001) �.a talk about th� d�v�lopm�nt of thQir lot on �h� �ast side of victoria contiguous �o Lak� Owasso. Th� lot has 100 fe�t o€ width, and is an ext�nsion of the eati�ting lot to the west �across �ictoria) of whi�h it is a part. In oth�r wo�rds, both parc�ls had be�n comhin�cl for tax purposes+ and thus a lot division would k� nece��ary to cr��te this lo� on a lakesho�c. Davc 3ar�isch went over the ques�ion o� hiqh wat�r lin� �+hich would be �n dQternnining t�e builcl�bility o� +�h� planning studi�s that w�rc �ione �hus �l�vation o€ t�►e One Hundr�ci �'ear Flood, water line." �he �.ocatian of th� import�;nt fac+tor in Io�. Dav� c�ot �h� �ar rela�i�g to th� and the "normal hiq�k� i suqgested tha� th�sa fo�.)�s get � survey o� this land �o as to determino th� �ocation cE t�Q high �a��r l�.ne �nd thc� Ona Hundred Ye�r Flood, �o �hey �an thQn p�oc�ed w,�th � possi�lo ciivision �of the land �or devclagmen� purpc�s�s. w� also talk�d to r1rs. �lanse�n about the possibili�y o� dividinc� the r�mairasl�r of hc� land t� th� we�t o� Vi.cto�ia, the wost ��de ef which has �ror�t�ge �on Ls�kovi��re She i� go�r�� to think al�out timing a� to when she might wat�� o accomplish this division, which would be normal �nd consis� tent with what has be�n h�ppening �o oti�er lots in th�e i�nm�diat� area. 5. ii�lmes q30-1500 P,�ul Holmes s a r�pres�ntativ� of C�n-Spec, a construction company head�d by C. R. Hackworthy. Th�y propase to con- struct a two-sto�y o�fic� building (10,Q0� squa�� f�et) an a pare�l at the southwest corn�r of County Road D and Trunk Ha.ghway 88. W� r�vicw�d the sit� glan, and it appear�d that the lot might be slightly small for th� 10,000 squarc foot structurE (a two-story structure). • 4 Planning Office Hours April 8, 1987 � Page 3 we also talked about the possibility of there being ultimately a right turn access in and a right turn egress out only, in the future due to the possible development of a median strip immediately west of the interchange. Thus, we suggested that he might discuss, with the property owner to the south, the possibilities of joint easements going through the property and providing access to this land via tY�e land to the soutYr. The sou�h�r3.y landowner is George Reiling. Mr. Holmes is going to pursue the continued de�elopment of the site by considering changes in th� site plan, �and possibilities for �cce�� asements. 6. Tramm, 633-1760 Mr. Tramm is th� dev�ioper at�empting to devolop � cul-de-sac �t the northw�st corner of vic��ria and Gounty Roa�d H. This involves the us� of kh� rca� prop��ties, which some of +�he n�ighbors ar� nc�t willinq to cia, t�e talk�d abou� thQ p4ssibili�� of d�v�lopinQ the l�nd with a P.U.�. r�gui�inq that thc land Nav� a� l�ast two acre�, N� may o� ma� not hav� a twa gcr�a �i�e, dep�nding upon �h� ex��rc� a� co�►�ra� t�on he can gQt �ram the landowncrs inv►alvQd. Dav� ,7anisc� di�cuss�a se�+a�a and drair��gc� w�,�h h�m, and h� � is gdit�g to consid�r �assib�lQ ��tcr�a��t�as �o hf� d�ve��o�xnQnt Pro�s�l, and wi1� 1� back ta� us late�x . 7, Y,und�rc�� 483=656� Oti� �nd Ja�ec� Lund.l��c�i li�re �� 9��' �racc�hi 11, at �ho no��h= west ��r�€�� f I�ak�viaw �n�l �re�adh3�1. T'hgy p�a�osea ta b�;�le� ��ed�Qam a►nd gar�g� or� t�a� nor+�h �ide� ef �h�ir house which wQu�d ax��nd th� hQus� 33"6" to +tt�a nor�h. �`hc�g� dlldn" t ha�� exac� l�� irt�Qn�lo�� nd �uil�linq l�oca��ion�� bu� i� a�,p�a�� a� though �h�� wo�a�d b�ire� tt�a h�►us� closc� �� +�h� nr,�th ond sa �s eo rc�gui�� v�� i��. 'T�Q �o� ta �t�� no�t�t i� �Qn�� uous w�th ��e sidc� ��►t lia��. 'Thu�, l� c�,�y 1�� s�p�e�r�a�� o �onsid�r � v�t ��nce ta �arov,fd� �or �xpan�io� af �h�.� hc��sQ �n �h�s w,��, � 0►na of �hQ �oad th�,n�s €�l�ur t�is �r�p��l �� i� will� movc� ��c� �I�i+uc�w�y of� woc,dh�ll or��o G�ko��ew, �rhdrQ ths��e i� cons�d�r�t�ly lags traf�ie. 7�his, �hec�, mRy � pro��c�d as � v��cian�e� i� �►e� b�i�n�� 1�� appropri�t� �alan�, dimc�n�,ions, �nd a�pr�wal�. 8. P��m�r, 82�-��998 ga�� ga�.�t�� .s t� �4��t�}�:' �3�C��lC�S�I�'� cc� s�il ��iQ �� ar�ne, which has b�an �LiR�t,�Ol��.l�t� a� �; nonc�nfarming� u�e �incc� the adoption c�f tne n�w �oning �ordirr��co in 1959. �la no�es th�� th�y currently renk about fifte�n fishing boats �nd fou�r pontQon boats. They ha�e �cc�s.s �o kho lakc v�.� �, �� prov�.d�d to �hc �ublic. Th� p�rcel is a�out on� a�ro i.n siz�. � �. J � ' Planning Off' • ice Hours April 8, 1987 �4. � Page 4 A P'U'D' Was aPproved for the which time a two stall Property s@veral with the site is thatpthele�isaango Was added years ago, at which extends partiall lc3 du '�he problem Y onto the Wi��oria righ��of-wa� site Mr. Palme� was inquirin Y� s�or� with g as to whether Qr gasoline service might be added �to�th�°,nveni�� I hoted that would r�quire conu�ercia1 zonin9 and us� on that zon�.ng, ar�d t��t�s c� a+oulc� be highl�, improbabl��p�rty, und�r the tion of the sitc and the �� talked �lso aboutCt}��,ev8- "��r�r line and the �°Ssibilit� $s r��$��s �o �h� P��p�rt� into Passibiliti�s �or simplY divic�in hi9h . A�rhaP�, thxc� sir�gle �arm�,lg► I��s. g�h� M�, ,7��isc� noted that �ha norn�al t� �trQ One �lvndred Year F'looc� i� 887. 3 0 igh wate� ,is 886, 4 anci Mr. Pal�er is �n�` ca�sc�, �'�in� �o cr�nside� thr�� add�t,ian o�� u�g�� hat � re��ning�o�s�he�l�,�es and, �tt � ��nvc�,��nce wit� �a�o�ine sar+�i�an �aou� �ht� �t1�1�?�L`pp� {�B�Q. �� 9+ F�C�l,sk� 4��-�3594 �ao� F'o�skA � �� 10 3 � R�rt�e s �p� ��WQ�� oi e�+� co�°nc�z• �� c�r� �n� Rc�m�� ico i� �ha thl�cl '��w f1�Y �ko��Y� �V � ��d �Ifi�� Y�#.�\it�� whi�� ,�� r��Q �cc��sQ��d1��s�� or� h,�� Qaci��in " � .��°��tu��, � ��agQ, �han�e�e ��ic��iun "'�t,ich s�c�t�lct ��k� �h� '�t�� adc�l�,io� �aau�d i.t� �.o%DQ ��l1�tL`t� �t��Q� ��IL'�1�� (f �QC3� �8�'�Q� �I � �+�dalQC� . � ��Q�i�+L"Ci �f1��C �1� ��F��iC'� Ch� l�� crn��a� th� �dd,��on �cr �c�� #�� tz� �o ��z �h,i� � � �c undc�z� �,40� ��+�� a� �I��r��= �c�a� �r�y�ch r�a ��1 h��hiF��ax,i��C�� i��n � '�uarc� �QQ�. �� . �'�`��` �� rar��n�c ��ck��ar� ��-�1�3 ��Y' �ac��c�r�, �� .I��k��n�- �in$ ca�n�+��, ��a�t �nd As�e� c�ttt�� in w,� th G�� r�aga��t�� # ��ira . Ir�c. , � �ho�_ ��ctur�l �f�ic��end �+�ra�e� �u�i�h��r�m��D�v�R�� '�c�n�� a� ��n�� i�rir� Slaw,�#� �' ��h t�1�kc� �cQ��. �"t�i��.� �rchi,- �ar thQ �h�nc�l�� *ths�� esr�r�t�d ,� �a�up �e�p�e- o�` 14Q, OQO � ��rkir�� o�t l��ut la�nd�t�t�$i �� ,�n Har �ia� �Iu��re �`c�e�t o� e�t�o�s �loe�� r�� to thQ �dd,�t�ic,� th�t �hich�we��di�c�� '�hc� k��sic l�y�ut � +�xi��ir�c� ��hars . ��ri p�e�►��, �, �,f �n �� s,imilar �� Sl�wik �� Th� ne�,r eta�r��c� «,�1� l�.t�c� �aP wi�h und�r e�n��u��io� �� '� �he '�� w�ich has bee� war��d�our wit�$nellitt ��vi��d ��rane� �h�,ir�ee�in Ct�arliG H�r�che11�8 d°��- off�reel �om� s��ff. Cha�lie he ggestions Far �h�noi�h�11 �nd D�� Janisch �he acc�ss roadway �n� �arkin � g some th� g sy�tcm, geometrics af � � Planning Office Hours R.pril 8, �.987 Page 5 We suggested also that tl�e access be continued with a four lane configuration to the rear portion of the parking azea so as tc� encouarge this distribution. That, af cours�, was one af the objectives of the chanqe in the positioning of �khe acces� to �he �ite� so as to lin� the ac��ss u� with a more dirac� raut� to �i�� iarge parking ar�a to the south of the �hopping c�nter. The n�w additian will occu�° �o the aast and slightly s�utY� of �k�� xisting �tructur�, and will b� �rell bc��ond th� on�+ hundred foot minimum r�q�irement fc�r the setback in �;hc� shagp�.n� c�fltc�r dis��ict . Z°hey �rc� going to r�vi�� thc layouot �l�is�ht�.y lb�as�d on �hc� rQcon�ne�r�ci�tion� �e�viawad, and re�u.b�ni� Eor pr�o�sing I�o�h l�fore t1��r �l8nning �amm��sion a�r,c1 Counci�. '�h� .�ho�pinq cQn��r d��tri�t �c�quirr$ a�r�via�w �f th� si�e p1a�, an� a ��Cion a� �ha �an� arhi�h i� zc�na�tl �-lb re�r�ira� Sp�cia� U��a ��ni� �o� s�ta pl�an ap��av�l. �'h� H;,�ia ��ci wa�� an�sl f�r a p�o�s�rd �dical ci�nic abo�� saven o� �i�gl�t y�� agca. 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V � ' � II " � � i ; � �1 z�. .... ..� ..� ._ _.�. ..��_., �, «�. �,: r" 'k s�� :, � �f� Y�� nu�� 4� $�'I ■w■, � �r 1 w�i..f� ....,. _ �I.�.�.�.-y-.��, �1+ � � , . � a.i!•f► <,I i8 �M r� � � � �� i E� i� ��'f �AI ��Yd �� {N � �� +F �� 'y �id �� ,�� 7 _. . . ` �' N � � , f �_ , . . ,. . .. ��. r � � � April 8, 1987 T0: Jim �ndre �ROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLA,NNING dEFICE HOURS, �PRIL 1, 1987 1. Davis �21-2100 �om Davis � th� assistant manag�r of a r�al estate office for �or�hwcstarn t•�ut�a� �ifQ In�u�anca Company, headquartered in 1�1�1W8t�.IkQQy t�tisconsin. NortlawestQ�n t�tutual has substantial real e�ta�c� interests in �hQ t�1+�tropolitan Area, one of which �s a th��teen acre tx�C� a� th� sauthw�st corn�r af �oun�y Road B-2 a�nd Fairvl�ew �►v�nue, form�rl.y occupied b�► Contral Da�a. 'Tom h�c� he@n �n to eii�cuss ��ith us thQi� progr�ss in acqui� �ng �ao� t�ons af �hc� lahd which �hQx d�d not o�rn i�i�i�l�+y. A� ehis timt�, ��Qy wer@ back r�ith tt��i� d�v�lop- man� eoa�n �a p�a�ca�� an init�$l coneQpt of a red�velopm�nt p�o�c�,� 1. Tt�� ollaa�i�g ��oa�� r� p�e�ct�� e�res�e�nting Opu�c Co�p�ora- � �ian. �t�n r�u��t�acho �en�a� P�oj�c+� �►i�na��r ��r� �nd�t��a�, Dire�e�c�� a€ �c�� Es�a�t� �va�opment �� a��hir��tar�. �as��ivQ �ir�cc�o� o� Ga��ru�nen� �►Efair� r�lsc� ��ca�e�n� �� ar�sc��ta�ivr�g �sE Co�s��rall �aM��r: i�#�� QuQ��l J�rr� Dr��Qn Je�E fita��ch��r �`h�� rQ�im��r� �Q�c��Qn� prapo��l, ��n�ed ��iti� s�v- eral �che��ic ��a�i�g� an�l ��t+�d� modc�l, �ncludad 2�0, OOQ �qua�c� ��t caf ��c�ss, �Qa�saa�bl� ��s��l �rc�a i �r�cl.u�ding two �nc��r� �,itl� ��o � le�� Q�ct� � � �n� � �wc�v� ��o�y, �SO, 000 �q�a��o �o�t ��i�4 �ui�,cii�c�, �u�p�r�c�si 1�� p�r}�in� ra�mp of �ou�• 1�u�2� ��r��h �p��oxima��i�r : , 40Q �ar pa�king capa�lty. r��ap��x�r��+�e� ca�a�ali �o��s It�ars3 a�d sc��t costs) is S60 m�113on, wi�i� �c�nst�uc�ion piop��d ic' �a�:l}+ 1988 (u� pe�s��bly i��n i�87 ), wi�M t�za otaje�t�i.�►� of o�poe�ing �he ratai�l f�� 1�� 'h�.i��+�� $�� Q�$r Tom inci,ica��d� �1'fly arQ Mauir�g� sub�tantial intor�sl- in the �it�, ar�d i� i� �.il�aly that it ti�ill br� built in a single � phase ,�f �ot�r�tial pre�.��asi�g ��hiev�s i60, 000 to i70, 000 squ�r� fe�fi� p�r offico and r�tail �ach. At ane time a hot�l w�s consid�red a� a p�rt Af tlZ� d��lopm�nk pr�posal, wh�ich has mor� rec�ntly �a��n drol�ped. � Planning Office Hours April 1, 1987 Page 2 • It was mutually agreed that the most important and most difficult element of the development will be the handling of traffic. Messrs. Honchell and Janisch expressed their concerns as relates to ultimate impact on Count�� Road B-2 and Fairview. Mr. Davis noted that he had discussed, in a very preliminary manner, the possibility of changes caith respect to Fairview Avenue and Highway 36 with the District Engineer (Kermit McRae). Mr. Honc.hell noted concerns with respect to the present access conditior.s to Rosedale. Mr. Davis noted that he had discussed these general concerns with the Center Companies (operators of Rosedale). It was suggested that the developer should hire the services of a competent traffic engineering company immediately, inas- much as the ultimate design of the site will hang heavily on the method and degree of accessibility. Possible changes in routing to Rosedale and the street system to the west of Fairview Avenue were pointed out as possible ingredients to an ultimate solution. I suggested also that elimination of turning movements between 36 and County Road B-2 (for private properties only) may be considered as an option. We agreed, too, that the preparation of an proceed in conjunction with development plan • traffic analysis. They agreed to proceed studies and liaision with the City, County, part of the next stage of planning. r1 �J E.A.W. should studies and with traffic and NII�i / DOT a s 2. La Vaque, 333-5802 Eugene La Vaque a.s a bro?cer with Realty Forces, Inc., and was in ta discuss the possible siting of a banking/computer operations cen�ter and � possible retail service (banking) outlet in Roseville. we talked about possible sites in the tax increm�nt develop- ment area and others, emphasizing the qualities of the Ruan site fulfilling their development criteria as described by Mr. La Vaque. I s�aggested he contact Mr. Bartlett, who we ar�: informed currently has an option on the site, and a man with whom we have had previous discussions over the past few weeks regarc�ing its development potential. 3. Ryd,�r, 636-6906 Mic�hael H. Rodgers, District Manager of Ryder Truck Rental, Inc., and Huey D. Farris, Regional Vice President of Ryder Truck Rental, Inc., were in to discuss, at our invitation, potential use and dev�lopment of theYr land as relates to the existing and propo5e� z�ning of their prc�per�y west of ?SW, south of Johnsor �3r�ther's Florist property. We reviewed with them our concept of redeveloping the land as an office park, noting the desirability of some of the land- owners holding their property to later points in time as the market evolves. � Planning Office Hours April 1, 1987 � Page 3 We reviewed with them their rights to continue the use of the • property in its present form, and the right to sell the property for this use (in response to their question). We reviewed the general development pattern of office parks in the Metropolitan Area, and the potential for such use in this area of Roseville. They expressed their general agreement with the approach, and their interest in looking at a drawing of the overall area, and an outline of the proposed revised zoning district. We noted this information would be passed on to them for their ultimatenerally the propertyerisouth tof rezoning process affecting g the tracks to and around Highway 36 and 35W. � � 4. Donaldson, 332_-5664 Linda Donaldson represents Brighten Development Company which has developed the "Village Town Homes" in St. Anthony, kitty- corner to the southwest of the old service station site in Roseville at the northeast corner of Old Highway 8 and County R.oad C-2. She showed us examples of developments the�hehsv�e done in the Metronolitan Area and, more specifically, Anthony development which is one of town houses selling from �88,000 to �91,000 minimum, with an average valuation of $95,000. She noted thatadfcurrentlyysold�twenty,lnande were Anthony pro�ect, they h optimistic about the prospects of developing similawhichtcon� the Roseville site to the northeast. This site, sists of two pr�perties, one of which is owned by Jim Trapp (the service station site�, might accommodate eleven to thirteen units if developed similarly to the St. AnthonX site. Craig waldron discussed with her the possibilities of tax increment finance support, explaining the City's polices and procedures �or such subsidy. Ms. Donaldson proposed tc con- tact the landowners to see if they were intrested in selling at a reasonable price, anc� if so, would p�:epare a pielimin�he site plan as a basis for further dicus�ions regarding fie�ancing with Mr. waldran. Should the project appear teasibl�, they ��ill continue with mQre detailed site plans preliminary to processing development and iezoning approvals. 5. Thor e, 332-5664 LeRoy Thorpe is a realtor with Merrill Lynch, and discuss the possible development of the twelve currently owned by Roberts Construction Company. of land is northeasterly of th� Roseville area property, westerl� of Western Av�nu�. was in to acre site This area school's We reviewed with Mr. Thorpe the problems o� access to the site which, in r��lity, call for tize acquisition or joint development with the Grauel property southeasterly of the Roberts property. This concept of joint development has been discussed in the past with r�presentatives of the Roberts Company, and provides the essen�ial second access route to the property for development purposes. I suggested, again, that this obvious approach be reviewed. �� Office Planning Hours April 1, 1987 • Page 4 • It ��as noted that access through a portion of the school site would be difficult due to terrain conditions in addition to likely difficulty in obtaining such approval. L� � 6. Lundahl, 933-3011 Richard Lundahl is an architect who is preparing site plans for the Kayo Oil Company, which 4�e understand now is proposed to be a Conoco station. Conoco is owned by the Dupon�. Company. Mr. Lundahl showed us revised sit� plans which he indicates now include a"p�efabricated building" proposed by tre Kayo people. Mr. Lundah� expressed his gra`�e concern regurding the appropriateness of such a building, noting that it would, in his opinion, cost as much or more as a custom made brick building on the �ite. He noted that the prefabricated building was proposed to be faced with brick. I noted our concern with the prefab�h�aConocorCompany atnd1a800e251�72521 Mr. Phillip Beard of regarding this proposal. I expressed our concern inasmuch as this is one of the very prominant sites prime for redevelopment in the City, and noted the City's policyri fthatzitebe developedtwitheand asha land, actuall.y preferr�. g part of the Slawik. property to the o�est and north. 7, kChalil, 488-1558 Yousry �Chalil lives at 1847 North Lexington, and proposes a 10' x 21' addition to his house, which c�ould iequire a minor variance to the se�tback on the right-of-way. The development proposal appears appropriate, and the variance reasonable. $. Bartlett, 333-_8210 and has Jim Bartlett has an option on the Ruan property, r�viewed with City st�lff, on several occasions, various de- velopment poten�ial for the site. We talked about dev�elop- ment potential and the City's concept for rede�elopment of the land to the soe�hoff then�sidetheant�roh5sd�inter�st �in part of Ruan to g redeveloping it for more intensive uses. He also had Dave Phillips with izim from Phillips/Klein, a design build archit�ctural company. Mr. Bartlett noted that the Red Roof Ir�n pot�ntial appears ].a.mited, and perhaps will not occur. He was very much interested, however, in th� banklc��fiee development potenti�,l wh�ch we disc�ssed with him. He noted his general support and concurrence in the redevelopment proposals under study by the City. � Office Planning Hours April 1, 1987 Page 5 While there (at the City's request), he also discussed the iprogress of his proposal for theencdeveHepbrought inha very Print site to a new automobile ag Y and expan- preliminary plan indicating a$600,000 remodeling sion of the existing building and ssd�oethemsiteof tExpanded with appropriate parking and acce building would total 20,000 square feet of development on the qround, with a 3,800 square foot second floor spinc. The buildings would be oc-ned by Chrysler Real Estate, We :iave encouraged the redevelopmentrofosal Mto place this fo�r this use versus the initial p P development on the Ruan site. � � Mr. Bartlett will be back with more precise application drawings and data. g, Westby, 489-6�84 and desires to board Jim westby lives at 480 Lovell AvenueThe ordinance, however, a horse on his residential property. notes in Sectior.s 145 and 201 sidentialalot,muandbthaththe hundred feet from the nearest re pasture area must be at least three acres. His site con- forms to neither �f these minimum requixements. I suggested that any attempt tona��hat� aperhapsc� he should r�quirements may be difficultro osal. not pursue a horse boarding p P 10. Kristofek 831-7521 C, L. Kristofek represents Amoco, �nd was in at the staff's request to discuss the patential ea�west�ofe35W�n� y@eZ�oted d� the potential office park ar their devElopm@nt ��s done in the '40's and thaaoth�h�W@v�r� cipate the tank farm being permanent. Th�y have five acres of surplus prop��hich also�accupQ�s abour gasoline truck loading facility, fiv� acres. Th�y anticipatc to�tainment"�asm�palts oft the away from r�quir�.ng vapo� c loading proc�ss, which may involve relocatir►g their loadinc� fa�ility. This may go south of the t�rminal, thus r�leasing a total of ten acres or� th� Count�� ZaS �o �3�mi11iQn. This move,they anticipate, may cost f Mr. K�istof�k noted, too, that their company is devoted to safety and tl�at �ick Marrow, Chairman of the Board of Amoco, is President of the National SafetY Council. I suggested that theii interests may be best served by holding the land tor a period of time, with the possibility that within ten �ears they may be able to redevelop the �otal site. Thi� �.s the more important because the access to the site with full turning mov�mer�ts is via the present entrance to the gasoline loading area. In other words, the ac�ess to the Aasterly �ive acres �.s through the westerly f ive acres for purposes of full turning mo��ements of f County Road C. r1 LJ � �� Office Planning Hours April 1, 1987 Page 6 Mr. Kristofec indicated his interest in pursuing it this way, and is generally supportive of the redevelopment con- cept. I suggested that the area where the present truck loading occurs should remain zoned industrial, and the remainder should be zoned for office park. This sets up a condition whereby if pressed, they could sell the easterly five acres for office purposes, but not other industrial purposes. 11. V.F.W., 483-5313 Mr. Mory and a colleague were in to discuss the V.F.W. Club with a 12 x 56' addition on later an 8'4 x 34' addition on the tront. the back can be done by building permit sp�cial uses or variances are requri.ed, and x 34' addition on the front w4uld intrude front yard space. Th� front yard setback, their preliminary plans, would be 41'3". the expansion of the back, and The addition on inasmuch �s no th� proposed 8'4 into that 50' as indicated on The addition on the back involves an expanded lcitchen and storage space only, and would not increas� the seating capacit��. The addition on the front, however, is a gre��- house dining area expansion which would include expansion of the seating capaci�y. It appears, however, that the site has ad�quate parking for the expansion, subject to more detail�d examination of final seat�ng plans. ''� � ~� �- �� ,'� "I * �`S V i �+ '� • _� v .� y .� . •r .n; » . „ . „ _ M / - . • 1 t...... �J �� x r � �� I. r " �� jq � , _ , .. ,,. � , ��s:� a:rf � �1f0 17��1 • w .� •�' � .� � � �, �' _ '- -� . . 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F�n��nA��i� 788-3187 D��:o�hy r"�ntinoz�� 8mc� �n �a�eh he� d�►uqtt�� , ��ary �o, to ��cu�� trra �ot$ th�t +�h�y �a►n con�i�� o� �.2� +�cr�� at �h,� ��,�� nd �� ow o� ��vQ hc��c�$ nar�h of �'our�t� Ro�dl C, ��s� o� T��ureP� �11��aray 6�. `TNI� ��o��y �� .��rw� on ��Q ��,�eh��,��,�a �]��n as h�q� �lc��sit�, rnu�ti-hou��nq�+ wh��h �l�� c�ht�o�:� �� tt�i� ��e ��a�d ar�� i�� ►p�op��t� ��qr��t�e ��en �hc� �9�9 C��a1��n�lo�� i.��d ii��r ��n �a�� a�c��. �►roge��y ��Qc��y �o �t�� o� e� �� uc�� s�i�R� �►r� ��n� $e�u��ux� bu�� b� �r�s� a� �1�e Gara�y ��he�� ut ��aA�n �� s ��io. °�Nc� 1�� t�dl �� :��N �a �� d��u�h1��Q��d�� ►�r�� t�� 4,��r� ��i�c��:� ��k ��-�. �l�y�. �a��ii�� ►��o�� i��t .�1�� k�� n�� b�� a� +�N� ��r��. ��.�� n �� r�d �� +��►�+��,� ��a�� he�r��,�� , �� a�� a�� a� ��r�.�� oc��r��, � �� +�c� �� i�� .��N��+�� c��p� � r��c��t�l� ��a�l�� r�� ,+�t� �h� ��+��n� �� h� �� . �. ��flc� 1��a��ct� �3�-�� n� �� , �� i�r�� a��P�� t�ut��n �n��,. n��n�, a�� ,r�� i��n��r��1 d��►�lo�!��a��t1�a��= �� a��Q �.n eca di�� L� �� tMQ r�c��i��+� �rar��a� o� ��li�� n�l �our�� R��d � ��e�r�t�g� ��c�pu��t�a�s� k�� ne ��ac��e� ��°�r ��'�,��'a '�N�� rop��Q �� v��e�p �ou� ��1 t�:��l��a�� tan��in� o� 1�, 000 �Q41�rR3 �4t�� Q,QOQ $�ll��@ ��, ��tQoo ��i,1��Q ��D�'�:r +�tl� 30,0�0 .z�u�ro �ca�ts �� d�liti��, �� wa� � �in�l� a��ce bui�.ding indi�ak��, "�0` x �4�', +�krreo ��'ie�� qua��i�� 21,40Q ��:� �� rp��. T�1C p�Opt,�E:CI L8�3� I30� �C4L'i3 7�1Cytl�C� Ut: � s��uctu�� a� tM� ext��me n�rth �ar�d �� 30, 000 squ��c� �oo� �et�il u�il.dinc� its l�ac�: or,i�n��ei towatd tt�o so�vice th� stre�t. �21f2 �� Qo� �SC,�41�I:Q �OA� tM� �i�a, '�hQ lar��r w�s a �trip c�nt�er, ��,�t1�► road �nd Co��n��n �cros� 0 � Planning Office Hours March 25, 1987 Page 2 • I suggested that this site is perhaps one of the finest sites in Roseville, artd they should be thinking in t�rms of devel- �ping the land more intensely and efficiently than merely scatt�ring one story structures on the sit�. I suggested th� back of tihe �trip shopping center oriented to the northeast would be a problem, and the pzuctures se�med pinapprr�Priate indiv�.dual sites with smdll s for thc quality of the site. I, therefore, encouraged tand t+t�. Kueppers a9reed) �hat they +��ke a relook at the site thinkin� in tcrms of grcater inte��.-�ty o� u�e and a mo�� #�m�g�nativ� layou�. � � I�iscussed ��a 3�a�� mu�ei-��oricd uras, at�d �ug�as�.ad th�+� ths� co��dlcr�° +�h� s�.tc ma�� 11F�c thc� City �� . G'��i'� ��k e��i�h�d �h� "��+�� t��r�� cle�r�rl�pm�r�� .��+��" a�� +t�sa no��h- �e�� +��e �� xe��t� S�u�t�v��d �vtd ��e��r�� 0. �. �'��I�e ��9—��0 �. 4A��et�+�, �� €'� �n e, p� �� »��►a, r�� t� aai �1� � . �+��t��, �e�� t��►� t°�s �� sv:i��, �c��mi�� t►esnt��c ��r�� c�� :��d �r�w��w�� t �h�� h��ir��r�a@�p o� ��i�an�� 3u �e�tl ��n� ��r��u�. ��S �` �ot�r�t � �h�� c�� fi�� o� �� a�� 1�� rr� �� r� N�c��a�� ue�� h�e�� s� ��r�. �s��t��d�� t�� c�� r� �� #�� , �r�� t��r�� crs�+� @w�� r�c�� t� ��. �`�a�� i�� 8�� i�� .��cl�r�t��l �� o��► �� a�� i�� .�k��►� �� t�� G�`��°�=Cli��t "�'�� +��i`�' ��`�� • "�� a��t��=�:� �� 9� �€�� e� :�� i��t� �� '3��i�1ik°�7 �� e�4 "�l.�d�� f�''6�� i��r l��i�44� ��e• 'kl4�i¢�� °�� .� ��}�� •� �� °�� t�� r:�� :.�6� � ��a�� eo� �� .�� . a�� .�� +�� R�o�-� �.�� i�� r�► �� 1. ��r-�,�� ° �3�� °�� r-� �� t�� ,; � �� a��e�� r� �� :��. ��°�:�.�� a��° ��+� ��c�� :��=��t� Srit4��$�� sH4 '�� r� ��a�� ° ��i.��r1�1 0 '�t�� a�� :��:� �� p�a��3 ��► � �� a��i �� r� ��a�� -��r��°� ��:�� c� ��a�� t�-��t ��i� �� i ��-�� $�� M� � +�Y� j{gy�q ,�1j�y��y �s ga,,�y pt 'k��s l��ik$�li��2"� ��st ��'�a�-�� }!+�°��k4ia� R,�'�t Ee� h:��" �si��r�4lY'. d��°��I�� t�� :��°��. `�t�� tr� ��c�� r��u�� Y� ci�� .�� .��+��t� ��1 �� t�� ,�� °��r �►� �1�� t��a�� o�a�t��. i�,��e� ri�� e��u�� r.i�0i ��Rii ��a+�+�� °��•�i��a� th� i�ik��z�� *n�aa►�.1��i,h :��r��e�,r., ��e��r�� r�t t1�� p��i1��1�� c�me i Aw 4ec Si v vs � S w�__ �f �� tic�u�,�� 1��ir�� n�� a° �.��°�� pansion. r�,L . �'��nl�c� r��d +�t»►� ��! �t�� t�r c�� c��tt��r �r�t� �� . i�ut�- �ell �ndA�� tr� Li9ar��•y B��c�, ��d ��a �;��Q�:�►t� d�1t�� t��m ir� +��rm� �E ��a��i°�i�� ij�t o►�c�� 1�c� �D��ia.�4� Eot� tl�� Lil�� ax��n�ier�. Tt��y �1��► �u��4��ed �1�� gQ��bili,�:� �� tlaeir �c�u�1��r1�F mo�� a�fic� �it�� bc�ir�� tli� Libia�� ar�sior► si.tc. � Planning Otfice Hours I�iarch 25, 1987 � Page 3 , T'he building materials mentioned were polished granite for the first three flaors of bothvelsroftuthe� northerlyarmost colored glass for th� upper le building. Exterior elevation studies have not been preparecl in d��.ail at this poink, �hough they �re proposing ko do sa in th� n�ar fu�ure. � � I again reviewed th� d�sirability of their m�:eting with the neighborhaod. t�lr. rranke indi�otasals�clu;�aany tc�sc,thhe ut�ti� they h�vc mo�� specific p p indica►t�d th�ir intent to mtl��'��h�ir�propo �,lors p�ior �o any pub�,ic h�a�-in�s �c�nducte I sra�g�sted �ha� �onaa �o�m nE arr$n�ement� wi�h the L�brary► �xpa�n��.on �eoc�ce�+� �ho�rle! i� prc�cu��d be�oea �ny form�l ra�u�ase i� r��cls� �c�r �roc��in�ro�t �at� r�ax�Yc��e��t�ve��at�d gq��+��d �hat �h3�� o�ld b� �r� a�P A t�c�y in�c�ry�l to �u��u� t�ra� �a�ar�c�. "y�� a�i11 �e�c��,� +t�a� �u� ��►nvcc��a�t#�c�� i� ��. C�una�a � l r��ac�inq �t�c� �.ii�r�� Qx�a��lc�n ��g��c�cl �ha� �x�arr�ian �� h� ��a�� 3�e� �c�� ri��i��ll� �� t�� s��4o� ir�a�ol.v��,qt �� c� �c�u��t3k�o� �� Q�� t�e� pr�r�e�� u� �hc� du�p��c �aa�c� ��y �� 1�a �. ��$�� i��w�� ,„ ��=�'_`�_� �� s �� p�� h� �Oa��6� ��u�T� �a�� i�nci �� p�ta� ��+t i�� r�o� c1� �� a�� G�� , �� a��ct� �� c�� . �� o �o �:�i� �t�e� �� ee�l ��r �� r��,�i�� a��a��#�� [,��c� ��e �1�a ��. �`1r� �c�� t�� e�� e ��o��+�� +�� •i�� o� ��u�k� �.�� t�� !� .��d� c��d� ��+a+d �� n�� . �� a�� t� ��n� �9�� i��►�d %a� ��►�� o� �h�� u�e��-� �►� �� ic��, ��u�i�� t� i�, �r� ��, �sst �c� ��r �� c� ��e� ��i� � :��+�� s�� wfel��a�� a ��.� +�� r�� t� ��►r��B � �u�i��.�� t�� ' �t�� e�� lg� �t�u+� �OQ ��q��'� �� e� ��c��c�+�► �1�Q� �1�1�+�r ��n� ��1��r�s��a��a��Q� �l�� u��, �rh�� u�l� ��, � ��e�� 1�� i� �Yi�� u�1�1� l��a��, �� a��d��on �o �1�� bu� ld��r� :��t�� 1� m�x ��c�p�� i�a�� a�h�� ttaat� add�� a►t� ��z�� i�uild��+�, wt��h ��t�ld �.��+�� ct� ca�t ��c�l�p ��► �M�i� ��+�� 1�i�h i� ��i�� t�o�e�� to �r��.� €a��m bo��a �h� raro�� nd ��s� . ��It , �ic�1�1�� ag�a�� e� r�cans�� i�� tapvs�l, �nd wi�l L�v�Qw �. t wi t}� �t�� i� m�►r►��rn�r�� , � LJ � � Plannin Office Ho �" 9 urs March 25, 1987 \J Page 9 5. Wi1�on, 252-6262 St�ve Wilson, from Brutg�r's Deve�opm�nt Company out of St, C1oUd, was in to discuss th�ir �volving pl�ns Eal the devel- opment of the Reilinq property north of City Ha11. He show�d us a vexy preliminary sketch indicating th� d�v�l�pm�nt of th� northcrly half af �he site for mul�i-fam��y housing which may include a mixed use af tl�ixty-two �owni��us�s, twe�ty- �even zera lot line sinvl� ��mily residcnce�, a�d one h�nds�� eni�-�� pa��nt uni�s. The to�nh��se� �igh� be �n tho Sl30,�0� te� 51�0,00� cl��, tl�c► r.. <�� iot lir�e h�us�s �� a�bout S 130, d00, ��:�^1 th� �pa� tmc�n+t� wa�a�d b� midclla ran�te ie��a� � "�he n�t the� ig� �a�.�E eioar +�n �hc ��u�h�rl�r �� t�on o� +�h� lan�. w�u3�d t� dev�lc�� d��t� .;l�m ��ini��e, �[ ��einr�lcr �vc�lo�s�n+� C'amp��, �nd aac�+��d ��n$��t �f � ��r��n��ior� o� �a�identla� an�i ��e��i�l r��ae�.o��err�, not f�el��lic�� r�� r�� j�� t�,�� u�c�. I �u��Q�� h�� .��s�� er �Ic�a�lop�n�r�� +�� hls �� 1� ��r��c�� r �o��i.�e��+��r�n �r�eh �m�pt�� up�c►� ��a��'� �� Y �Q��Q ��.�1�� i��,L�� h�" �#��e ��l�s ��aa �a �t�� r��. �a �n�lc��s��i h� �.� �� t� ;��d aol�h rhu �aan�r �� e��c�� c�t��i�a�Q �i�� t°+d � R�t��,h�� ►��n� ��d �aa�� i�� o� � �v� a�� +�� °�p�� t��t �� ;� ��n�� b��°�, �� c�k�� , �� t� �� l�c�� a�o�� °� �i��°� ��r�� .�� ` ��r� �t� �r��iL ��i,��1r$� r�o%��h �� I�s ��►'�rf�` �t��i��.'�� =�� ldl �� h�� tR ��t► ��ir�� iq�� `�� a�g��r��c� �� tG�� .�� e��h � fOQi� �� .��a�� h� �� .�� r� �� '��. �J�� .�� a��c� ��s� ��-� �� t�� i� �:�� ir��-� �� .+�c�o rh� ��c��r��a� �� h� �� «��° �� }rr�� t �,�� :�� . �► ��a� ��: �� c� ��tt��a=�� g��c=��e� �� b�e� ��i�r�� c°��i� ��t�� t��it��.��►i� 8�� +��,�� o��c��ki�� i.�. ��°�� °��a��d r��e�� F�� t�� a�t� �� i�l �� i�� I �� i�� x�� . �� r�� °��s�� ne� ��i � �.��u�� .�� p��n r"� ��6�� c°�� rn,�r►� �� 0�� o�� t� a y�=�r�,��i�n ��a� t�� ver��-��a�n ��°A��+� �� i�� .D�� t�� t� ��:�ur�, ��rti��t� ��lc� h�� k a�� .��,�� +�� r�� t�� ,004 ��r� fe�Qt �Y�� d��. 7, i��t�r�l�u�t�L �7�-�ZQ9 G��°c�a�r� �i�nr, cu�t �, u�� r�� 5�� :��1� r�a��u�, �nci f� can� � �el�e l�a�dot�rr�e�� wHo su�� t�c� tt�r� c4r��ti°uetia��t af � i�e� ,��;�� _ ea �1�� sou��3� of l�i� p�:��er�y, ��l�win� i�i�� o dQv��op rh� la��lock�c� p�r�el he ow�s �or�tiguous to l�is �xi�tir�e� lo� os� �� a�uth. �ic w�s l�o►:i.t�g �orwarel tQ buildi�yg �t� �l�at si�e t�h�t would h��a be�n oper►ed u� by tl�e r�ew �tio�t, bu� rac�w pl•opQses to expat�d �he house i« wi��2� t11�y tlow l.�ve in�t��d„ �.� � � Planning Offic� Hours March 25, 1987 Page 5 He noted his desire to add four feet on three sides of the h�use. I suggested that such an expan�ion would be very costly, and likely not too practical. He not�r. �hat he had not, as yet, talked to any builders and received any price�. Expanding four �e�t on three sides would have required a five inch variance on the front sid� o� the structuYe. Y looked at his floor �plan, and suggesr�d instead that he could econ�miea�.ly expand his kitch�n and brea?�f�st a►r�a qui�Q �asily b� ex�et�d�ng it north in lir�� with his ��cisting g��ago. H€r� the�e ar� ea�is+�ing foun�atfons ko handlQ this �xp�nsion, �►h�ch w�ulc� c�anslderabl�+ r�ducE the cost. auc� Qxpan�ion wou�d a��d �lco� atoa to two of �he smallQ� spac�s i�n th� hou�e--th�t: b��nq� thQ k�.�chen �nd �ttQ bxo�kfe�� a�r�a�. ��a�►c� hlnn a cog�� c�� Ch� �ket+�l� u� �he� ��o� ��.a�' wt��h h� i$ goinq to con�ic�Qr �� a� a�1�Q�nati�e� �o tha a�her �o��eQ+�. � �u��Q�tss� �ha�t a �+�1tQ� �ha� cax�e�d ths� �c��Q en th�Q� �id�as ir� �ha� c��r�as�ve �nanna�, ho �ni�3�� h�a��c�r o�� o �c��l tM� �roe�se �r�d �u�ch�s� ane� ��'�t Pa�t�+�a� �#�� h��t� naQ��. H� no�ed �� n�► pacp�Q �� th�� :h�y 13,i�c� �,iv�n� �r� Roscsvill�r �� don' � r��+� �� ra��c� ou� �� t�t�c� nr�l�hb�►�f�oa� ��t�Qi=. 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Schriber, 429-7789 A1 Schriber and Jack Gysbers, both of A1-Ran Construction Company, were in to review a proposed minor variance for the Bob Putnam, Jr. residential home site at the southeast corner of Chatsworth and Lydia. The Putnam's have lived on the site for fifteen years, and propose now to add a third garage to their existing two car garage. The proposal is to move westerly into the required thirty foot side yard setback (off Chatsworth) to add a third stall, resulting in a structure 10' 8" in overall width. Their preliminary drawing did not have exact dimensions, but • it appeared that the existing home might be set back thirty- four feet. I suggested tha�t they procure exact dimensions, prepare an accurate site plan, obtain appropriate neighboring property owners' approval, and submit the package for processing under the minor variance provision. Though this is a two-story house, the garage projects at a one-story height toward Lydia; thus, �the addition can be mad�; to blend in nicely with the architecture by extending the hip roof design as they propase to do. � 2. Nordst�om, 933-7733 Michael Nordstrom is the Regional Construction Representative for Burger King, ancl he was in with Randy Szymanski (378- 1515), who is the local manager for Rocky Rococo, whose restaurant is immediately south of anr� contiguous to �he Burger King at the southwest cornex of Cou.nty Road B and Snelling. These two restaurants, plus the Color Tile propert�r ta the south of Rocky Rococo, are a11 owned by Dick Knutsen, who at one time operated the Arden Inn at ch��.: site. Charlie Honchell and Dave Janisch have been trying to work with Dick KnutsEn over an extended periad of time to work out a realignment of the service road througl� i:hese properties� These efforts have be�n unsuccessful, �erhaps largely due to Mr. Knutsen's unwillingne�s to consider some form of "con- structive cooperation." The final solution proposed was to adjust parking and access within the two restaurant sites to im�rove the accessibility without a public street going through the properties. t • Planning Office Hours M rch 17 1987 ❑ Page 2 a � Some months ago Mike Nordstrom, wor_king with the Engineering with an adjustment to their site plan for � staff, ca.me up ty�e access further to the west to line up Burger King moving with the new public access to be bu�heir� drive-uprtWindow County Road B), and a realignment ot arrangement. Mike's problem now is tSet ae roval f rom Burger approval to do this work and, of cour , Pp King to pay for it. � � The adjustment tc� the Rocky Rococo site is one o� moving and expanding the p�rkin� area so as their access westerly, too, approval of the land- to make that access work. Here, owner is required. It was decided that they would approach these proposals, reminding him that difficu�.t, there is the possibility at County Road B, which median strip turns into the site and left turns out. affect business conditions. Dave Janisch noted that the �tate's project is due for com letion in August, and that the location of curb cuts is p ted �by these possible changes in site processinge o�lta affec plan chan�es for Burger King will require p Special Use Permit. We also talked about the possibility of making slight changes site off County Road B, so at the entranc� to the Burger King and the as to line ug with the break in the median strip This entrance to the service rand �o�ehpianCmoreycompatible with would help make the existi g the State improvements on County Road B• aet back to us with the results of their their landlord and their respective Mr. Knutsen regarding if things get too of the closing of the would eliminate lef t This could seriously They are going to negotiations with com�anies. 3, Mi:Ller 377-2165 was in wi�th Bruce Jim Miller, of Alhitz Design Company, Bednarek (935-6120) representing First Minnesota Federal Savings and Loan to review their e�pansouthpofnPaster'shnew site west of Lexington Avenue (direc y shopping center). First Minnesota has purchasec� the old Kogler Music Museum and residenc� to�t �heupo�dganal1atFirst landlocked parcel directly wes Minnesota Fecleral site. Th� hOJim Millerdhasncprepared �a museum has been torn downr and and proposed site plan expanding the parking capability developing a new drive-up facilitya Given this additional space, the layout works extremely well, and will provide for a drive-up facility up to five lanes wide with the tellers operating in a separate structure viewing the front of the customers' cars versus the side as usually is done. l � Office Planning Hours March 17, 1987 Page 3 � The origirial site of the First Minnesota building is zoned B- 2, and the Kogler site is zoned B-l. Thus, there would appear to be an option of rezoning the land from B-1 to B-1b within which t�e banking institution is a permitted use, or the land could be rezoned to B-2, where the use is alsa permitted. The advantage to using the B-1b is that it is a more restrictive da_strict, and requires site plan appraval which may be af more comfort to the contiguous residential owners to the north. � � Reviewing the preliminary site plan, I request�d that they pay special atterition to the transi.tion to t'Ze residential area to the north (northwest actually)r ai��l to the west directly which is a parking lot serving ar� apartment build- ing. There appears to be adequate space to do this w�ell. Mr. Janisch discussed drainage concerns inasmuch as the �ddi- tion to the site appears lower than the original site to the east. An engineering solution is to b� evolved with storm sewer invert data supplied by the City. The bottom line is that a difficult problem house and building has been removed, and First Minnesota can now efficien.tly expand their facility. 4. Tramm, 633-1760 Marli.n Tramm runs a company called Mardon Homes who i� inte�ested in developing a parcel of land north of County Raad B, di.rectly west of a row of single family homes that fror�t on Victoria. The parcel behind the homes, on which Mr. Tramm has an option, was owned by a Mr. Geph�rt. The owners of the four single family homes are: Sheila Gillson (4888202) 2175 Victoria I�ildred Reiling (4892732) 2171 Victoria Herb and Mary Bennett, (4848630) represented by their son, Gene 2189 North Victoria Ron Richardson (4886953) 2165 North Victoria The development proposed would involve a short cul-de-sac extending north off County Road B, and the acquisition of approximately the rear half of the four lots mentioned fronting on Victoria. These neighbor� and Mr. Tramm were in to discuss with us the implications, possible costs, procedures, and other concerns with a possible development of this nature. Mr. Janisch explained the procedures relating to application for feasibility study, preliminary plat, holding of hearings, presentation of cost estimates, ass�ss- ment methods, etc. `,"- ' � � Page 4 � Office Hours Planning 1g87 March 17� and osition to the proposal, pne ned by his parents to that effect. � Gene Bennett ��e�Csigd his °pp ious concern as well. submitted a le of the other owners indicated his ser land of in such cases, development of unused - that some point in the futureia at I noted like].y occur at to the this nature may and the proposal itself is uP i� everyone that the timing circumstances, the City I noted that in rare oWner objects, owners. one property in fact, done in wants to do it and only owers. This was► erhaps may use its Coo£eNancY place, westerly to Victoria, P the eX�enears ago. f if teen Y rocedures , empha- �lsa eXplained lot size stand�Wnersnto pwork together to I for proPerty decide to proceed at all)• sizing the need they achieve the best results (if rincipals in a new realty company 5, Lien 227-4100 �rie o� the p ro osing to sell a Craig Lien is who is P p �o�,nty called Summit Commercial Realty, at 1950 West 6dp square foot industrial building inasmuch as � stion was whether or not there could 19, Mr, Lien s que Raad �' arking in tront of the bunodedgthe land is be additional P a retail user. riot they are consideriand that a basically retail use is zoned industrial, � permitted. uate parking not be adeq site. d also that there would1zekony th�-S par�.icular and � note ace of that S ro erty to the west' for a r�tail sP with the p p to provide parking There is a shared drspa e�' in the front for relatively ll�tl� the front yazd• I did note that obliterating aces can be added, inasmuch as a without a few SP arking iri front of the industrial purp°S�s' uired to the p forty foot setback is req twenty feet not in front of the building• e building an� bdsed on th Continue to try to sell the building He will Zoning. existing met with George 6, Janisch 484-3371 Ci.�y Engineer, on the � �7anisch, Assistant at his site Dav� morning of March 17f Smith from Reiling, on the with Jerry of shore of Lake Owasso► orted the results northwesterly of ��gineers. Dave rep the P►zmY Corps enerall.y as follows: this meeting to Charlie and me g uare teet of Engineers--Can fill uP to 10,000 sq Corps bottom of hill. Ex.cavasivarea¢eet,��ne, of land beyond beyo�d �,he 10 , 000 q but no more filling Which in can be done above e areat nnthe6 lake side. DNR- - f 111 g is near the edge o� the cattall � no filling in cattail area. One Watersaededrsflood stage above this elevation. hundre Y C� � Planning Office Hours March 17, 1987 City Engineering--cattail area can be filled if excavation is balanced elsewhere (storage capacity remains the same). Page 5 It appears balancing these interests will be an interesting process. In any case, the rules of the game should be clear before the design of a preliminary plat is attempted. 7. Lincoln 893-9000 Sandy Linstroth brought in a revised landscape plan for the Lincoln 5hopping Center north of C, westerl.y of Snelling. Sh� reports leasing is going well with comrnitments from such majors as Byerly's, Walgreens, Burger Brothers, and MGM Liquor. The landscape plan has been revised to correct line of site concerns for visibility of the signage in the Center. Comparing the proposed plan with the original approved plan indi.cates the same intense level of commitment. I received two c��pies of the plan, and will review them witY!. our landscape ai:chitects and will get back to her regaxd�.r�g any adjustments/or approval. I did this subsequently, and found the plan to be a good one. I sent two marked copies to Gordie Beseth for his file and � referral to Lincoln Pro�erties. 8. Dillner, 633-3230 Phyllis Dillner was in with her hlzsband to talk ar�out the proposed subdivision for their large single family tot east of Acorn, northerly of County Road B. This is a subdivision creating a second lot on their property which we had discus- sed with them previously. It creates a second lot south of the pond on their property, providing for access to the larger area containing the existing house via a private road- way entering the southwest corner of their lot. � Althougr this is an unusual subdivision, it appears to be th� best way to create a second good building site on the property. They propose to build a new house on the new site created by the subdivision. 9. Bonitz, 941-0556 Mark and Julie Bonitz were in with Mark's father, Junior A. Bonitz (560-1715) to review a proposal to split off a new lot to the rear of the lot at the northwest corner of Brenner and Chatsworth. The existing lot has 100 feet of frontage on Chatsworth, and 217 feet of frontage on Brenner. By adding ten feet to the 100 foot lot to the north (owned by Mark's father) two lots can be created, each of which would meet or exceed the minimum lot area and lot width standards. I suggested they review this proposal with their immediate neighbors, and consider processing the proposal by adminis- tratively adjusting the ten foot line, and then splitting the remaining platted lot. . � � � Planning Office Hours March 17, 1987 Page 6 10. Keenan� �71-5861 Tim Ke�nan represents the owners of th.e old Verti-Mag building at the far west end of the City� south of New Highway 8. He wishes to expand the office space use in the building, and we reviewed with him office space requirement� and possibilities for expanding office parking on the site. Parking capacity ia of some concern to the City in that the owners he represents had an option to purchase the si:�ty-�ix foot wide strip of land which the City is acquiring to extend the roadway northerly, past the east side of this site. They want to avoid paying damages to the remainder based on parking need. 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Dunwell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell, �rchitect with Buetow and Assoca.ates, was in to discuss the current status of planning for �he new Library expansion. He explained that the Board ha�l considered four optians: 1. 2. Do nothin�g (but add parl�ing t� cor�ect th� existing shortage). Add 9,000 squar� feet (pZus pa�:king). 3. add on Library Heaelquarters �acility, whi.ch would constitute 35,000 �quare f�et (including the 9,�0,0 square foo� Libr�ry addition). Add+ed to the 19,OOG square feet th�t exists, the expar�ded strueture would cont�in approximately 55,000 square feet. Land acquisi- tion, in this case, would also include a potential 23,000 square foot add�.tion for the future. 4. Build a new buidi.ng on the expan�l�d si�e, and tear down th� o1d structure after the n�w l�uilding is complete. The new structta�� wo�ld contain the Library Headquarters and e�pand�d I�ibrary faciliti�s. Hdequate parking would be cn �.he site, plus ther� a�ould be room �or expansion of the n�w building for the future. t�ir. 17unw�11 point�d Qut that adding on to the �xi�ting buiTding �t�p�ion 3) would be 5800,040 che�per. However, there would be d.�sruption during construction. The buiidir�g would nat be e£ficiently organiz�d, and that over a peii�d of four to s�x ��ars, the sa�rings would be dissipated bX these fac�ors. r�fter iour meetings, the �ibrary Board :sel�eted Option Q--to build a new building. Mr. D�tnw�ll pres�nt�d a site plan showing the placement of the }auilding �ontiguous ta De�.lwood St��t, with three hur�dred �ark�ing spa�es Eor the public ai�d an additional forty for the staff. The building area e,+ould be 55,000 square �ee�. The existing builcling has 19,000 squar� feet, with on� hundred and three parking sp�ces. The site expansion totaling 2�1,000 squar� feet, or �.3 acs:es, would consis� o� the �xisting Libr�ry site plus the property� of the duplex ne�.t door (to the east), plus six single family homes, fi.ve of �ahich frozz� on Dellwood. I expressed my concern here about the Library e.xtenc�ing to Dellwood inasmuch as it interrupts the single fami.ly consis- tency of tllat street. Although the Library does not require business zoning, the existence of the building within thirty �eet of the right�of-way would have a deleterious impact on the residential Gharacter of the street. � L� �� Planning Office Hours March 11, 1987 Page 2 I suggested an alterna�ive w11iGh would involve purchasing the duplex next dooi (to the east) which fronts on County Road B, plus three single fami�.y homes to the north. This involves thre� less single family Y�omes purchased (which shauld b� less costly), but does involve the purchase of the backyards of fiv� additional homes to the north. This scenario recom- put�d with Tom and Dave to be 228,375 square f�eet, or 5. 2 acres. Tom Dunwell tY��ught that the shape would be quite workable, and we determined �hat it would all�w for the construction of the nec�� building while the o1d building r�mains in taet. Mr. DLsnwell agre�d to pursue th� further examin�taon of this approach, which wou1� appear t� be workabl�. The advanka�ge of this schem� is �hat i� do�s not impact the single family hoines on D�ll�rood ( thus �asir�g the c�a�cerns of �hat neighbc�r- hood), it lea�es the identificatipn of the corn�r which Mr. Dunwell tells u� is desired by �ti7e �oarti; i ��:. they el�cted not to sell th� buil.ding and lase the location with frontage on both County Road B and �amline. Pr�j�cting �h� develagmcnt fuxther nc�rth �n Hamlir�e would �end to limit oth�r forms of developmen� wh.ich might k�� of a greater density, and it� rel.at�s the sit�e sligh�ly �loser �� Roserlale, which was one raf the ab�ectives of t,h� Boa�d at �ne time. Compl�tion of this pro�� would k�e appraxima�ely t�iirty-six months frorn now. The Board's program, t�ta�ling �11 millian, is raughly as Fo�.lows ; 1. Build in Shor��i�w. 2. Huild in 1�9our�ds vi��a. 3, =i . acquir� pr�p�z ty i.n Map�.ewood. Acq�uir� prop�L ty in wni te ��ar i�ak� . 5. Huild n�w hcadquart�rs �nd expand in Rose�ill.@. Ti�� Board pro�oses to go ta the County �aa�:d in April. The decision is to bui,ld a nEw bu�.lding a.t th� R�seville site. I hav� b�En sugg�sting cons�,sti�ntly, in khe City's interest, that th� Library remain a�, Caunty Road B and Hamline and that the Hea�3quarters facility be expanded there, emphasizing expansion to the north, with a prim� olajec�iv�e to maintain the integrity a� the �ingle family are� to the northeast. 1A. Dun�aell, 483-6701 Tom Dunwell also discussed briefly witt� us a pr�liminary propos�l on the pa��t of the h1i31anc� Hills Golf Club to expand their service building from a 90 x 1.OQ to a structur� 85 x 1�5, with expansion to be added to the existing builditlg to the north and west. �J � ❑ • Planning Office Hours March 11, 1987 ❑ Page 3 He notes it is the Club's objective to move all of th,e exte- rior storage of equipment and su�plies inta the new structure and eliminate the old quanset hut which exists to the north- west of the service builciing. This appears to be a reasonable proposal, subject to further examination of the detail particularly as it relates aesthetica:l.ly ro the lake area and contiguous sir�gle family homes, whi.ch are actually some distance to the southwest (in Lauderdale�. I noted that go�f club �usage is a special use in tY�e R-1 District, and a Special Use Pexmit would b� required. We reviewed procedur�s, requirements, and timing� 2. Backes, �94-7100 Ron Backes, of Sh�lard Nlanag�m�nt Gompany, G�as in with Bill Brisley to review his propoed site �lan �or the development of a small �t�ip c�nt�er off R.�� tr��t on land zoned B-3 and own�d by Dr. Hous�� This is part caf th� p�operty of which a portiot� was so�.d to L�arning Tre� for their new ciay care ��nt�r now und�r constructiana �"his is a sma11 ccrat�r, wk�ich will b� ali brick, 17, 900 �quare f��t of building, w�th 4,8flQ squar� fee� of basemc�nt. �►� fiv� �pac�s p��r thaus�.nd �r�i b�th lev�1�, the requirement f4r pa�king 3s one �huc�dr�d ��nr� tr-n spaces, �nd they propos� c�n� hundred ninctc�n. � Bra��;s Suge��tte will be the anct�or o« th� west �nd o� the buildinc�, ai�d theg� will disp�ns� gasolin�. T�ius, � S�aecial Use P�r�nit f�r a s�rviG� station will be r��a�ired as ��rell as ��p�eiai U�e P�rmit for i�visir�n to th� ariginal �P.U.D. arhich applics �c� this part of the prop�rty. Th� F.U.D. includes t�he forty foot wide private stre�t which runs fdam Gc�unty� Road B-2 to Transit Cb@hind t�� Center) �nci, you «ilY xecall, �ust cast of th� day �are cent�r. This stL�et <<�ill bc: Gampletcd as part of this p�o- ject, �nd should p�ovirl� c�ood circulation inasmuch as dir��t accc�s to Ricc S�re�t is ies�a�ict�d. Dave Ja��isch noteci thc dr�wing indicates �urb and gutt�r wh�ch aL� notc requir�d, but that in some area� c�rb�.n.g was no� lI1CI�C�1��C�. Mr � Ba�kes ac�r�ed to make the chang�s suc�gcsted, Lav� also carxected kh� sidewall: width ft�om five g�et to six f�et, ,�nd no��d its r��uir�ement along Transit. I�?r. Backes not�d th�y had hired a traf�ic engin��r, indic�tYng th� G�nter would generate t�v� �housand more tri.ps p�r day, with one hundred fo�ky-five p�ak p.m. ir� and one hundred f�rty-five p�ak �.m. out. He noted an int�resting traf f ic fig�ire on ,FciGc Street . Tn 198b , th� raf f ic on �ice Street, sQuth of Ccaunty Road B-2, ADT (Average D�ily T�raffic) in b�th directions was 23,��0 vehicles. The ADT north of Transi�t an Rice Str�et wa� only 1u,820. Thi� suggests consid�rabl� i��ov�ment Qn Count.y Road B-2. This application has be�n ref�rred, and will be i�efcare the Planning Commission at its April mee�ing. � � � � Planning Office Hours March 11, 1987 • Page 4 3. Roers, 636-7778 Bob Roers is the new manager (eight months ago) for the Ground Round Restaurant, 4�hich is leassd from the Slawik interests in a part of th� Har Mar Shopping Center site. A previau� manager had discussed, with the City, the prospects of a patio dining area on the south side of tih� building. 'That idea was drop��d, however, in vi�w of its potential impact an the traffiG patt�rn bearing to th� cu1�dE-sac on tt�e east side oi Sncllinc�, which has now been det��;min�d to be extenc��d to a loop stxe�t betwe�n Sn�lli�ig Mvenu� service road and l�s�ury. Now that th�s l�as becn determined, they are inter�st�d in considering th� patio id�a. Th� d�sign proposal would not Y�duc� parking capacity. i7av�c .7aanisch r�viewed wi th t�1� . Ro�rs the reviseci ,�lans foL th� entranc� ta har iri�r i�iall, which ar� a� ��1 t of th� Le�Es�.gn and impr�ve�nents Eog �n�l.linc� �av�nu� to �e start�d this SpLing. The n�w c�ntiianc� to Har ��iaZ i� mov@d �o a�oint ali��ast imm�diat�ly nc�rth a� the Ground Round i�e$tauxan�, and thu� �h�r� ��rill k�e imp�ct or� the �v�iiat�ility vf �axking in thi.s sauthwest cazner aE the Ha� i�Dar paa�king la�. i su�gg�stec� that I�ii . Roeis revi�c�r tg�e pa�king capak��liti�s that wi11 f�e cor�tiguous td l�is iestauranr, ar�d �ons.�d�i• t�rh�rc p�d�strian ��4vemcnt aaill b� �c�ommodat�ed across tllis n�w ent�-an�� way, Tfi�is new en�ranc� lc��ation is d�siyn�ci �c� �x�end �ast�z:ly ��ounr3 th� sauth cnci afi th�c shop�in� c�n�er so as t� encour- aq�� ustam�rs to par�, to th� �n�th and ��st af the �rincip�l shoppi�ng c��t�r structuz-�. Th�s� �l�ns have b�e�a rc�iewed ari�h i4ai i.c �la��►ik �nd her• cor�ul��ants ir� �hc p��t, but �ave nev�r becn submitt�d t� th� C��y Eo�: ��rov�l. a'his sh�u�,d i�e dc�z�� aon, �rior t� cot�st�-uctian th�t miqht c�it��i�ie� �ith tne rnovemC�t �f th� �nt�.�ance as � ��rt �f i�9t�r i�OT' � ��or-cs tt�is S�anm�r: . 4. Narthwesretn Coller�e, 631-�.?27 `aarrcn �a].1, t�iairctenan:�:: S�perin��nd�nt �� Narthw�st�rn �aYl�g�, was .tn ta rd;,�vi�w a�3�ai�r� p�:a�o�al fc�r th� constxuction of a r�ew en�tr�n�� sign and gat�i•�ay aff i�ydi,� �v�nu�. T'hcy pxn��s� twc� pair �� b�ick �illat�s wxth a wrought iron f�nce betwe�en �� itly�r sir�e of ti�e �ivici�d roaciway er�tranc�. I ho�� t�a� ".he �rc�itl�n�e r�c�u��s tiiat ti�is be set back rl�iitv fee�. from th� right-of-�r�y, Th�y prapos� to �aut a sign an th� arrought iran £enc� indic�ting "Northwes�crn �oll��." c�th�r d�signs w�rc c�iscussed, but i suc�g�st�d th�t �iifs approacl-� wQu1�3 k�e mast a�propriat�, takirlc� care that rh� sic�n its�l.� is ui quality ar+ateria�. itz keepinc� with the ii�ves�.arent in th� brick aczd wrQught iron structul�. He note� �.hat th�ie may be a probl�m of fal].in� ters:ain at tllat s�tbac}c. I sugg�sted that th�y �xamin� this and perhaps eonsider � less�r distanc� of �h� rigllt-�f-c.ay if it is obvious that the teraain mak�s it illc�gical to pl�ce the sign as r�c�uired by ordinance. In other words, let's not put it some �laGe wlleie it wot�'t work. � Planning Office Hours March 11, 1987 I�age 5 Dave Janisch noted that th� square footea� tolbeedmore O was fifty square feet, which would app I also suggested the use of adequate for this purpo�eo classical shiny brass orheosd �lated letters that enhance the appearance of t g � � sign than some might 5, Edlund, 631-0505 at the Jim Edlund owns the Stat�a�3andlSnelling Avenueing The City southwest corn�r of Skill recently approved a P.U.D. to expand the parking to the west, and revise the parking eliminating eh�nell�.ng�Rvenueuservice cuts for parking off Skillman and th road on th� east side of the site. A new pa�k�ingh�i��ingle approved, which comesdlund awnsh� directly to tk�e sou�ch of family home which Mr. E this building. This work will be done in conjunction Wand t�� State improvements to Snelling Avenue this r� deby the will appear to work well. It has alsa been app State. He also proposes to add 917 squar� t�ht��°�h�P�ingleslfamily the building. This is dir�ctly nor home that h� owns. I�elt forb�hn�cessaxy inasmuch ashhe reproc@ssing the P.U.D, would not owns thc cantiguous propertY to th��c�st� w��ch is affected. He has six employees and �arkina sp �. Chirhart, 33��3071 St�ve Chirhart �s ��ithWho�is¢lookRng1forEatchild dayPcare repres�nting Pat �eehan, center location in Rosevi1l�� Ttihwest�co�nerngoferDalelyand t�� of f icc }�ui lding at the nor. Larpen��:ur. T1��s �s a one�s��e� bs�"aaaigable1for��thequdaY fect, of wYrich 4,OQ0 s�qua� aces. car� c�nt�r. The sit� has fi�ty-�ight parking sP ��r. Chirhart not�s that ther� is no�da� l�sentsnaedesirable this porti�n of the City, and thus P location. Th� �ue�ti.on may b� ��Wo�k well�forhdroppingaoff qua�e space �n th� sit� �� k� �' and providing For the 1,000 childr�n safely and effici�ntlY, squaxc f�ct o� green spacc requ��dsfo�apased torehavetleight the site. The day care cent p ��School children, znfants, fourteen toddl�rs, and forty p totaling sixty-two• Th�r� would be �ight employees. They did not have a site plan of t�s bford�'accommodating the are going tio �xamine po�sibiliti center on the si.t�. Revi�w of the City's air pand thexegista that the garking arran�ement is fairly tight, question that �cc�ss to Larp�nte�r be thatathegnostuefficient right tuln out only. Thus it may a�cess for purpases of diop off may be to the north side of the building. They are �c�in� t� cxamine parking and access c arrangem�nts, and how the site might be adapted for efficient day care use. a� o A �� B J zeeo — C � 7� ��ao / � D " / , , zs.o �. „ .I 2 3 NI 4 '� ,' �� ' �' - -� �� 9�4 0�. � �`I �� L 1 �� .� � �� r-��- - K �� :1��_�� -'�; �s � N 2 g� 3` o� �eoo � N Ni N; R�SE YI LL E 5�� 6 0� 7�� 8 �I Lu2e�oaE - �vc �—" � ♦• �� s ittY�� j •r! � � '� �.�� -• .. .,� . o �. � C..�^ ` J��O , .�� J oo . �� f� f -f n�. an ,,, � n so�u � �� i _ ��u.M �I L___. 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Lowe, 430-1500 John Lowe, from C. R. Hackworthy's Company, was in to talk about possibly building single family homes on the lots which they so laboriously platted and planned for three duplexes across from the County park on the east side of Lake McCarron. He also talked about moving the driveway to the north side of the three lots as was ori inall not g Y pro osed a a pproved by the Cit P nd move the driveway at this stagegwoulddbehawrongemandngver� difficult, and that the units approved were not townhouses but single family homes with a zero lot line on one side (side by side duplex). I suggested now that it was approved, it was in the City's interest to have the six units built rather than three. I suggested, therefore, that they proceed with the development as planned and approved. If this design is reopened, it will be the fourth time around, and perhaps that is too much. • 2. Linstroth, 893-9000 Sandy Linstroth, from Lincoln Properties, was in to review their analysis of the impact of the over-story trees in certain areas of the shopping center relating to the line of site (visibility) from the public rights-of-way to the south and southeast. With the roadways at elevation 919 and the base of the building at 922.2, the sections indicate that over-story trees placed along the easterly side of the parking area as originally proposed would, in fact, considerably block the visibility of the Byerly's end of the structure. In view of this fact, I suggested that they revise their landscape plans so as to correct this that the intent of the landscape planraslea' reminding them establish a level of commitment and pProved was to ific species, hei hts e�� quality, and that spec- constitute a g ' •� could be varied so as to not pr�blem for traffic visibility, safety, etc. No plan, however, will be approved if it represents a reduction in quality. She will be back with revised landscape plans. 3. Tuckner, 631-1621 Jerry Tuckner is a retired accountant, formerly with Fox and Company, a national CPA firm, who lives at 1397 Sandhurst at the northeast corner of Sandhurst and Albert. He came in representing his neighbors, some nineteen homeowners, all but � two of whom are over sixty-five years of age. These neighbors would like to sell out, but in the meantime are concerned about their property values eroding through possible rezoning or redevelopment in their small neighborhood. � � � Office Planning Hours March 4, 1987 Page 2 I noted the Council's policy regarding the need for an "over- whelming majority" of homeowners desiring to relocate as the basis for conversion of single family areas to other uses. I also noted the City's long standing policy to wait until there can be an overall buy out so as to not leave anyone "holding the bag." Mr. Tuckner noted the Golden Age Nursing Home people now own four of the houses. They have no objec- tion to that and would, in fact, hope that they or someone else might buy out all the houses. We did a rough calculation of land are� that could be put together if one were to purchase the houses and vacate the street. The total acreage thus created would be 6.7, equaling 293,360 square feet. Mr. Tuckner estimated that the homes might be worth $75,000 a piece, which equals $1,425,000 divided by 293,360 square feet, equals $4.85 per square foot. Thus, it appears that the resultant land value without other soft costs are in the range of possibility. He asked that we pass on to prospective developers that these people are interested. I suggested that they might wish to take collective action among themselves and get further advice and assistance from an experienced realtor. I suggested that he and his friends keep in touch. I gave him copies of the Comprehensive Plan for his neighbors and copies of the section maps (xerox) of their neighborhood for their use. Mr. Tuckner is a very nice person, and represented his neighbors well. He was appreciative of the City's assistance, and we agreed to keep in close touch as to any progress they make toward their objective. 4. Schoening, 924-2247 Bob Schoening, from Eberhardt, and his colleague Jim Mocowitz (also from Eberhardt) were in with Neil Broderick, who is the Senior Vice President representing the Hubbel family out of Des Moines, Iowa. The Hubbel family are owners of Equitable Life of Iowa and Yonkers Department Stores, and have a 125 year history of commercial development in Des Moines and other areas. They purchased a building on Nicollet Avenue that we reported on last week, and are interested in invest- ments in Roseville. We welcomed indicated on tial exists. position of schools, etc. Mr. Broderick to Roseville and showed him areas the Comprehensive Plan where development poten- We explained the importance of the strategic t�he City and its quali�y of life, park system, • Mr. Waldron reviewed our economic policies, and we stressed potential in the tax increment target areas. Mr. B�oderick seemed appreciative of the City's efforts and approach, and they noted they will continue looking for potential sites. CJ • � • Planning Office Hours March 4, 1987 5. Saphir, 920-3700 Michael Saphir Restaurant, and building of a Restaurant. � Page 3 is an architect working for the Good Earth has now prepared a concept plan for the deck on the south side of the Good Earth This deck will handle slightly over the existing parking area. The deck will be protected by a stout wood rail fence in the front, which I think will be very attractive. The deck will have a handicapped access ramp, and will be acces- sible directly from the interior of the restaurant. No change in parking capacity or layout will accur. I suggested that this change can be accomplished without reprocessing a Special Use Permit for site plan approval. 6. Brown, 784-9700 Bob Brown is owner of Robbie's Carpet Company who is currently operating out Qf a one acre site in Blaine. He would like to build or buy a new location in Roseville for approximately a 10,000 square foot building in which he would initially require half. He has thirteen carpet layers, and the structure would consist of a carpet warehouse, cutting area, and offices. He does mostly bid work on major comm�rcial buildings. For instance, he did the carpeting for the International Square that Ryan Construction Company built on Second Avenu� South and Nin`h Street in Minneapolis. We examined a land use map carefully, looking for potential locations, and found about three prospects. It is, of course, difficult to locate an industrial site in Roseville for a 10,000 square foot building. Mr. Brown indicated his intent to build a quality structure, and has a strong desire to be in the City of Roseville because of its strategic location and access. I suggested he may wish to consult sor.�� realtors regarding possible availability. 7. Karney, (Mike Hermes, 633-9537) Mark Karney, an attorney now officing in the Roseville Prafessional Center, was in with Mike Hermes from Merrill Lynch an� inquired as to the feasibility of using a single family residence at the southwest corner of Sextant and Hamline Avenues as a legal office. The structure would be used by two attorn�ys with a staff, and thus would require a limited business zone. I suggested that the intrusion into thd� neighborhood with a business development would be met with considarable concern on the part of the residents and the City staff. He seemed to feel that this would not be much of a problem based on his experience as an attorney. • ❑ Office Plannin Hours g March 4, 1987 • Page 4 I explained the procedures and requirements regarding rezoning applications, and suggested that he seek another site for his proposal. One such site could be the remaining single family home on the west side of Hamline, at the northeast corner of the Rosepointe Senior C�tizen's project. This site shows high density multi-family housing on the land use plan, and is contiguous to the limited business zone directly to the north. 8. Letendre, 633-6312 George Letendre represents Roseville Properties, which is owned by Danny Commers and his brothers Clem, Joe, and Fred. He was inquiring about the size and height of the sign they propose to rebuild at 2575 Plaza, at the northwest carner of Oakcrest and Fairview. This building has been converted from a skating rink to retail and restaurant use, and because of the shape of the building and its relationship to Oakcrest, have some problems in signing. We discussed his pylon sign proposal and agreed that with some adjustments, it likely could be constructed within the ordinance without applying for a varaance. The total pylon sign area allows one hundred square feet wit� a height �f twenty-five feet. He also inquired a�aut the possible reuse of his propert� at 1955 West County Road B-2, which is th� northwest corner of Prior and County Road B-2, He anticipates converting this building to busines� use in accordance wi�h the Compr�llensive Plan within the �ear future. 9. R�be,r�s, 631-9113 Scott Roberts, one of Don Roberts' sons, was in to inquire about industrial use o� a two acr� tract immediately east of the row of single family homes on the north side of C-2, east of Trunk Highway 88, we reviewed this Yand wi�h the Comprehensive Plan, which indicates t�is area of homes to b� high density, multi-family housing. I noted that t�is designation had been agreed upon by a11 the landown�rs in the area, whic� includes fi�� homes. I suggested, theref�re, that attempting to intrude into this area with an industrial building would not conform to that concept, and would likely be difficult. I also noted the importance, i.n this case, af all the land- owners moving at once if they are going to do so. I do understand, however, that one of the homes is owned by a� attorney who de�ires to stay. This ir�formation cam� to us from the owner of the property in qu�stion. � Mr. Roberts then concluded that perhaps it would be best not to pursue industrial development of the property. � suggested, however, that he might want to talk to the land- owner regarding use of th� land fer high density, multi- family purposes as designated in the Compretlensive Plan. NI � NI . 2 NI 3 NI I � n2o .,,�.1 �o .o •��/ -- � .�. :-�=_— ��. I a .°� / ' ./ / /•. A " ' � '��'" .!-i � ' ',� �!I � r=/� � ° � : %/ _ I a l000 �i`/�� / • t / .ti , ;. � � � J. 3 8 J �/. / -� . �, ' .� / � , _ -� zevo _ I �va� / _i� l • __� � I f=� r'j _ � �� C ) � .�' r' �I �� / /�.� ,� • i I i , ,- �'60 �i;i .i' � 4, � 5 �I 6 �I j =) $ q � =i �U � I! 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Schoenina, 929-224� who has a Bob Schoening is a realtor with Eberhardt Company, client he describes as an "outstan�ling local apartment developer," whose name he would rather not disclose b�cause, as he puts it, "other d�velopers tend to follow him around." He notes his developer is loaking for a fif teen to twenty acre site to construct apartments (ren�al) at fifteen to twenty units per acre, They would like to consider a range from 225 to 400 units, and would prefer to start construction this Fall. We reviewed various potential apartm�nt sites, emphasizing the Reiling property north of the Civic Center, a property which th�y had looke� abut Irsugg�stednthatdhe�domso. wi�h Mr. Reiling at this poin , Later in the day we m�t with George Reiling, and suggested that if the riqht d�veloper came along a partn�rship with Georg� would ma k� some s e n s�, ina�mueh as "th� ap�.rtment developm�nt busin�s� i� very Wohp��titive, and can ��:n�fit from alot of exp�rienc� and kno Mr. Scho�ning also indicat�d an int�x�st on the partWhQ �re Hubb�l dev�14pment p�ople out Qf ��@ r�view�d pat�ntia� d�velopinc� 122i Nicr�ll�t on the Mall. d�velopment sites ir� Ros�ville for th�ir insp�ction. 2. N�lson. ��4-9027 Barba�� N�lson, archit�C�Cohanscy�� Th�y�hav� andlothiwith �arb�r, who l�v� at 2525 llg,2 fee� of frontaQc� and propose to pu� an addition on thc; rear of thc hause whichtionxwou�ldabEn24st8�Yfromh thelk�� Th� w�st �nd ot the addi lot line, wh�r�it� 30' is r�quir�d, This i� a very large but shallow lot, and it apPEam�norava�ianc�mall varianc� would qualify f�or procedur� as a �, Lundahl, 933-3011 Dick Lundahl is an archit�ct working for th� Conoca Company, r�pzEs�t��t� by �hillip Bea�d, who is proposing to r�develo� the site at the northwest corn�r of Sn�llir�g and County Road �, They propose a building 28' x 56' with the apprapriate numbex of parking spaces, which is four plus one p�r 1.50 square feet of net retail area. Plannin Office Hours g February 25, 1987 � Page 2 • Mr. Beard noted that they had met with Jerry Jackson, representing the Slawik interests regarding their potential for cooperating with them, for possible joint access to the contiguous highway and street syst�m, and/or access between their properties. They indicated a lack of interest on the part of the Slawik people to consider such joint cooperation inasmuch as they do not have a specific use for the property at this time. The Conoco people propose to redevelop the site in the near future, and thus the potential for coordina- tion may have to wait. You will recall that I encouraged both of these parties to get together and perhaps join forces to build some�hing on the site that could be coordinated with maj�r development that could occur on the Slawik �rop�rty (being transferred from the State). It appears this joint etfort, or one buying out the other, will not happen by the two parties merely working tog�ther. Although the corner prop�rty owned by Conoco ".s a separate parcel, its dev�lopment �s a serU�ce station and conveni�nc� stor� aZone can be considered "under development." Th� land is zaned industrial, and will requi�� ezoning and a Special Use Permit. The prete�able action would �� for the City to take steps to d�claxe this ar�a a dev@lopm�nt district, and intcgrate it dev�lopm@nt. � 9. Hanson. 338-8456 John H�nsan �as in with Randy Kempenich, �uild�r, who proposes to construct a n�w single family house �n the prop�rty pwn�d b� Eleanox Gillesp�c who is John Hanson`s mo�her�in-la�d. Rand� Kemp�nich is owner of hiastro Construc- tion, Inc. �482-127Q1. This site, because of it� shallow depth from V�ctoria to Laae 4wasso, would ��quire varianc� t� th� shQrclinc �oning sehback requir�m�nts. It agpears that the housc could g�nerally line u� w��h �h� existinq hom� ta rhe north, and in that s�nse may not b� that unrcasonabl@, although thc setb�c� to the lake will be substantially l�ss than the 75 fcet, Th�y arc goinq to modify thc ppOpOSd�..�nd add addi�ienal information wc requested regardir,g exa�c location of th� sherelinE, e�cisting and proposed trees, anci a rela�ion�hip by way af location '�o �he �xistan� home to th� north, This, then, may be fil�d duxing thc next manth so as to come up before the May m��ting of the Planning Commissic�n. 5. Reiling, 483-1941 George Reiling �aas in to talk about the pla�ting of his land on th� westerly shore ot Lake Owasso. This pzop�rty has had previous problems with the DNR and the Corps of Engineers regarding permirs to fill portions of the land, wh�r�in the location of the land above th� hi.gh water mark is in dispute. � I recommendcd to Mr. R�iling that he determine this high water line by agreement with the DNR and/or the Carps of Engineers so that a pr�liminary plat can be analyzed a�ccord-- ingly. Without that delineation, I suggest that the consid- eration of a preliminary plat would be untimely. Mr. Reiling agreed to attempt to establish that line before proceeding with a preliminary plat application. • � Office Planning Hours February 25, 1987 We also talked about the potential development property on his site north of the Civic Center. I major portions would be best used for multi-family realizing that the shopping center zon� to which it many years ago was a"holding zone." I agreed that point as dev�lopment o�curs, the us� of portions of for small scale retail and offices/consumer uses appropriate. Page 3 for his suggested housing, was zoned at such the land would be Again, I encourag�d Nir. Reiling to consider a partnershi� with an experienced developer. Mr. Reili.ng reiterated some of his past unsatisfactory experiences with a partn�rship, but said he is keepinq an open minc� �.o the possibilities. 6. Swadburg, 631-179g Barbara Swadburg regresents the c�wners of Burqer King at southwest corner of County Road C and Cl�a�eland Avenu�. is attempting to put togeth�r a smal�. parking ar�ea a� �outheast corr�er of thi� int�rs�ction on proper�y whieh finds is owned by the S�at�. This is a sma�l triangle land narth of the ra�il.rc�a�d righ�-of-way, anc3 south of right-of-way fo� County Raaei C t�ast of Cl�v�land). th� She the sh� o� the She h�cl a drawing which indicat�d �grking sp�;ces on th� � prop�rt�r, but did not s�ow �hc ptoperty Zin��. Th��r@ is agpar�ntly som� qu�s�ion �s to exact�.gr wh�re th� prap�r�y lin�s ax�. � suggested that a�urNc� b� abtaineci sa �h�t th@ lin�s can be es��bl.ished. I sugg@�te�d th$� us� o� �he �anrl for this p��rposc, for e�nplQy�e p�arking from �he �urg�a- King �stablishr�en�, sc�r�s a r�ason�ble idea. I not�ci t�a� th� �ity woulci want it done well so a� ta make tiais �n �ttx��tiv� corner, S�e notes that she ��n gct agprav�l from th� �tat� to u�ilize the land, tY�ough th�y �xo�o�e �rat tc� �ell it. � 7. S�phir, 924-3�00 Mict�ael S�phir i� an a�cchit�c� ��ho ,�s working ora the Good �ar�h's plans for expansion c�f their �estaurant with a�► op�n dec�. patio a�rrang�men� an the sou�h side of their s�ruc�t�r�. It �pep�rs irom his prelimina�ry pla�� hat kh;is �an be dc�nC without impa�Gting t�t�e p�;rking ��accs. They hav� �ight�-an� parking sp�c�s, mor� than required by this s.i�e rest�u�an�. Accorcling to th� n�w �oning r�quire�n�nts, iL• th�y w�re to add f�ft�-six outdoar sc�ts �he p��king requirem�n�: would ��t�al �ighty spa��s. H� is going to revis� his drawin�� and be k�ack to th� City �or further reviewY 8. Strtxbl�, 2�2-6424 Roy StXublc owns two parcEls of prope�ty at 475 McCarrons �ou].evard. Th� property consists of 1.3 acres. H� praposes to divide the land into thrEe �arc�l.s, which woul� appea.r quitc feasibl�. � Planning Office Hou�s February 25, �987 Page 4 • Additional lots could be added if a street were to be con- structed immediately to the west, which was talked about over t�� years with that landowner and otl�ers in the immediate area. I suggested that he discuss this with the contiguous l.andowners to surmise the poss�.�i�cases thatuthea�xistingttwo effort. It would appear, in any , lots could be divided into three. g. 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"°,�`�, , ' � � �_. - L � o � � �' � � � __ � � � � c � ..� .1 � � ��:�. � 'Siwalp rl� � �; �'� � � Z�4 :,7 !.� r _a� i7 � ,�� O�� Z•��• g'� � � '�•' '� t__.. ..._.... . ..� _- _.' � � �sr. � �,�ld _ �_� _. ' � _ � i 3 �� ; � � '� I�� . - - Z.d i.�..=. � '� i �'�� ,� . � �,�. �� g� �� , f • {` February 19, 1987 � T0: Jim Andre FROM: John Shardlow SUBJECT: OFFICE PLANNING HOURS, FEBRUARY 18, 1987 1. JanDce, 489-5419 Mr. and Mrs. Larxy Janke reside at 938 Transit Avenue, They were in inquiring as to the procedure for getting approval of a variance to allow them to �ite their two car garagE in front of thcir curr�nt residenc�. Tt is th�ir plan to expand thcir living spac� within the house into thei�r �xistin� on� �ar garag�, a�d simply build a 20' x 22' doubl� car garage in frcant of it. The resulting va�ciance would be Ear an �ncroachment into th� r�quired fror�� ya�rd �e�back. The p��oposed garage portion o£ the �tructurc w�uld com� within sixteen and one-half feet of the righ�-of-�ay linee There d4es no� �p��a� +�o be any pa��ticu%�r h��dship �n thfs ca��. Ho�aever, it is cl�ar that there are �ome practf�cal difficulties related to �n �xpension of th4 hQ�s� on �his lot. � Th� ,ank�'s �r�r� also qu�,ck to �oint ou� th�� a�ron�t ya�r�l ��b�ck va�iance had b��n g�an��d to �ne o� thei� neighbars to d� ��ir�i 1�r t�►pc o� ��cpansion p�o ject . I qa�e them � cQpy of tt�e ��plica�ion and ex�l�ined �he p�:4= �e�lu�e� �a +�hem. �. Kna�. �12-585-56�5 Georgc� w. �:nox is � cQ��l e�tate �e��es�nt��tiv� �c►r U�fO��L, th� ��ff�ninc� �n�i �n�rkc��inc� divi�ioai o� Un�on 7�. NQ w�as �.n �� di�cu�� he ��c�s�S�r�g ��►�cil�i�y �:n �h� r�o��h�res� c�u�►c�ra�nt of Coun�y Ro�d ��nd sn��linc,� ;�v�nuQ. e�l�:. Knex prQ�Qnte�dl ��m� pro�a�e� �it� �lans t�t��t ��►ould �aci�it�ee� tt�a con��ructic�n o� � can�aeni�nce s�orQ on t�e pro��r�y. Pur�uant �o this t�ew constiuc�i.�n �oul�l be tY�e vacaeion of a par.tion o� �he e�ci��ir�� Snolling Au��nu� ri�ht-af-wa�, ar�d th� rededic��ion o� r�ew rie�P��-of-way for �he Fa�r�eac�� Ro�si to gQ b�tweQn this fac�l�ty and �he P�nnekoeken Hu�§, � in�ormed M� . Knox �ha� �t�o buildi.r�g ��rould need t� bQ con- ��ruct�d with high quali�� masonry materisl� on a11 four sides. we alsca �.�plained tha� i� would b� our pref�rec�cG to se� thc mansard raof e�x�ended up to �otally scrc�n th� roof- top utilit�i�s from v�.�w. � �ir. hnox too1: a co�y of the applica�ion and wndicat�d h� would be submitting his plans vy �l» @nd of this month. r ,r� Plannin Office H•rs � J Page 2 February 18, 1987 � 3. Owen, 933-0409 David Owen, Robert Froemming, and Pat Hallsey were in to inquire about potential locations �or a Residence Inn facility in Roseville. We spent the majority of the forty- five minute appointment briefing them on the development and redevelopment activity which is occurring in Roseville. We then gave them prints of the aerial photographs of some of the areas which they are pr.imarily interested in, and also gave them telephone numbers of contact people who own property which was of interest. 4. Lundahl, 933-3011 Richard Lundahl is the architect for the K.O. Oil Company in their attempts to redesign the existing Jet Service Station in the northwest quadrant of County Road C and Snelling Avenue. Mr. Lundahl had been in a previous Office Hour meeting with Howard Dahlgren, Dave Janisch and Craig Waldron, and had been instructed to talk with Marie Slawik and her representatives to discuss the possibility of working out a circulation system which was of benefit to both parties. Mr. Lundahl explained they were not able to reach any sort of agreement with Ms. Slawik's representatives. • We made some general recommendations for improvements to some of the details of the site plan, and inf ormed him as to the requirements for the pylon sign and the need to ensure high quality building materials on all fo�lr sides of the proposed building. Mr. Lundahl also indicated that he would make every effort to get his submissions in by the end of this month to be on the next available agenda. 5. McCarty, 645-3854 Charles McCarty was in inquiring about the existing zoning and other related information for a site located to the north of Larpenteur Avenue and east of Roselawn Cemetery. The subject property is currently zoned R-1 and guided MR, medium density residential. The land is owned by an estate consist- ing of some five family members. They are not represented by a realtor and currently have a, perhaps, unrealistically high price tag on the property. Mr. McCarty was inquiring about the procedure for rezoning this property to allow the development of a condominium project overlooking the wetland loeated on the nor�hern half of the property. The property is divided in half by a sanitary sewer easement . and the northern half of the property falls off very rapidly to the existin� wetland. We explained the procedure to Mr. McCarty, gave him a copy of the application, and explained the schedule for submissions and the development, reviewal, and approval process. � r • Plannin Office � g ours February 18, 1987 � Page 3 6. Lundquist, 633-7911 Marv Lundquist is the franchise holder for the Tires Plus facility in the northeast quadrant of Larpenteur and Hamline. There is an existing c�nditional use permit approved to allow this property to be used for a Tires Plus and Precision Tune operation. Since moving in and occupying the structure and conducting their business, the owners have recognized the need to have some storage of used tires and a location for a dumpster on the subject property. Neither of these uses was anticipated when the original site plan was prepared. It is their current proposal to canstruct an enclosure built out of wood to match the existing mansard on the structure on the east side of the building. This would place the structure within the front yard area required along Hamline Avenue. They were very much in the dark about the background on the proposal, and the fact that the approved plans were prepared by one contractor and subsequently redrawn by another construction company prior to requesting building permit approval. We explained the requirements for processing the variance application, and gave them some recommendations for very strong landscape treatment of the area adjacent to the edge af this proposed enclosure, They indicated that they would make every attempt to get this material into us by the end of February in an effort to get on the next available meeting agenda. 7. Northwestern College, 631-5227 W. Fall and W. Benedict were in to discuss the required pro- cedure for making a minor change in their parking arrangement along the entrance drive to their new building. Unfortu- nately, while this proposed modification would seem minor at first glance, it does involve the interface with the most vocal members of the neighborhood who were in attendance throughout the public hearing process. We reviewed the file surrounding the application, and noted that one of the conditions of approval was that no additional parking occur on the east side of the residential building. We suggested that they go out and talk to the most imme- diately affected neighbors and see if they would raise objec- tions to the proposed change in the plan. We explained that because of the level of controversy and concern that was raised by the recent review process, that it would probably not be likely that the City would be able to simply allow this change without going through a hearing procedure. It appears clear from the review of the conditions of � approval that it was this area where they are proposing to add parking which is exactly where the conditions of approval were attempting to avoid it. � i �� Plannin Of f ice � g Hours February 18, 1987 � Page 4 8. Donahue, 372-3273 Mike Donahue, 3058 Avon Street, was in at the request of Gordie Beseth because his new home has been built with a driveway that is thirty feet wide, approximately eight feet in excess of the twenty-two foot wiath maximum. This was apparently an oversight on the part of Mr. Donahue's contrac- tor. We explained the reasons why the City has the twenty-two foot width maximum, and ended up giving Mr. Donahue a copy of the application form, explaining the basic schedule and procedure for the review of variance applications. 9. Devine Loren Devine, of Construction 70, was in regarding the roof on the new Lido Restaurant. After reviewing the construction drawings, it was clear that there have been some changes mad� to the architecture from the approved plans. It appears that because of budget constraints, a number of the architectural details have been refined. While none of these changes are in and of themselves major, the net effect is a fairly signi- ficant change in the appearance of the structure. The specific reason for requesting that Mr. Devine come in � this afternoon was related to the mechanical utility systems on the roof of the structure. The approval of the project called for all mechanical systems to be screened. They have since been installed and are not screened. They have also chosen to eliminate the skylight which was previously intended to extend beyond the top of the roof line. There- fore, they are requesting that the mechanical systems be painted a color which is compatible with the architecture and to have the City waive the screening requirement. We asked Mr. Devine to submit a letter to the City Manager and copy Craig Waldron requesting this change in the approval. We also requested that Pope Associates submit a complete copy of the construction drawings to illustrate what was constructed on the site. We finally told them that after we had a chance to review the construction drawings and the contents of his letter, a determination would be made as to the procedure to follow. u � � February 13, 1987 T0: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, FEBRUARY 11, 1987 1. Bartlett, 333-8210 Jim Bartlett has a Purchase Agreement on the Ruan site, and had proposed to put a Chrysler dealership on the property. I inform�d htim that the City was looking for more intensive and appropriate use. I referred to the Dillon Inn proposal which included a motel and a restaurant on the site. He indicates that he now has a motel and a restaurant interested, and was in to review procedures and zoning requirements. The motel will be similar to the one recently constructed at the south- west quadrant ot the Burnsville Crosstown and 35W (153 rooms by Red Roof Inns). He notes that he also has a restaurant lined up that wants to be in this Roseville area. This is a difficult site with soil and utility easement problems as you all know. We are anxious to get the old Ruan building and their trucks off the site to provide a more appropriate gate- way to the redevelopment area to the south. Mr. Bartlett will be back with site development plans as they evolve. 2. Twombly, 332-2999 Don Twombly, a local realtor, was in with Jim Jervis of "Food-N-Fuel," a local service station and convenience store developer. They propose a new store at the southeast corner of Fairview and County Road D, with an all brick building about 40' x 60'. Their drawings illustrated the site to be 200' in depth (east/west). The problem is that the site dimensions are incorrect, and the actual dimension is 157', after ten feet is dedicated for Fairview right-of-way. Thus, it appears that their development proposal will not fit on the property. We talked abou� the options of expanding the site. This land is zon�d B-3 and the land directly across the street, but the land to the south is zoned R-1. We reviewed the problems and procedures for rezoning, emphasizing the problem of neighbor- hood compatibility and acceptance. The�r may consider a possible plan including expansion of the site. 3. Suetter, 462-1415 Rose Suetter owns a property at 1953 Lexington Avenue, which has sixty-five feet of frontage on the west side ot Lexington and a depth of approximately 620 feet. She inquired as to why this land couldn't be rezoned for an apartment or some similar use. �� Planning Office Hours February 11, 1987 • � � Page 2 I noted the possibility of the rear portion of this land being developed as part of a single family cul-de-sac from the south. She noted that the owner of that land has talked to her about purchasing the westerly portion of her property. I suc�gested that with only sixty-five feet of frontage it would be difficult to adapt it for multi-family housing. There is also the problem of losing the value of the home with that scenario. I suggested, therefore, that selling off the rear portion might be the most appropriate solution. 4. Commers, 645-4601 Joe Commers, Danny Commers' brother, was in to discuss vari- ous properties he and his brother own in Roseville. He was interested in the staff's perspectiUe regarding changes that would affect future potential of the praperties. We talked about the impact of the bridg� crossing over 35W, increased traffic on County Road B-2, the Comprehensive Plan recommendation for business use in tha� area (wher� mos� of their properties are), and possible reuse of land at the southwest corner of Couraty Raad B-2 and Fa�irview. We also talked about some apartments they have on Snelling and near the Hamline Center. He expressed his satisfaction with Roseville's gr�wt� and progress. 5. Kett�.er, 489-3$50 Richard K�:t�tler is looking for � duplex oL sinc�le family lot in Ros�ville far hims�lf. He looked carefully at the lot at the northwcst corner Qf F�rnwoo� and Woodhill where there are apparent soil and watcr tabl� problems wl�ich he rev3.�w�d with ug bas�c� on tests that h� had from the �anclowner. Dave Jan,isch been recently buildabl� �.ot showed him locations nf grop�rties that hav� divided, which may assist him in finding a f or 1�is us� . 6. Elfs�rom, 4�3-8381 Kathy Elfstrom was in to reviEw h@r proc��ess 3n constructing a n�w hom� on property which sh� and h�r husbanc� �iivid�d about a y�aL ag�. Apparently the riew structure is up, and now she is hauing �ome �r�bl�ms with recording the lot divisa.on th�t was approved by t�e City. Th� County inform�c� her they wanted a Regist�:red Land Survey which she has had prepared. Dave �anisch �and Douc� �trQnc� a�vi��d her regarding the method of handlin� the ten foot right�af-way d�dication for County Road C, and procedure for proceeding with the filing of the RLS. .. • Planning Office Hours February 11, 1987 Page 3 � 7. Lierly, 483-2320 Mark Lierly was in to discuss the possible use of the Rose Bowl building owned by Marty Capp as a rentable banquet hall and teenage danc� place. He inquired about liquor licenses, which we suggested would not be compatible with a"teenage dance f acility." He noted that in Chicago where he is from, there are a great many ot these rentable halls available• the suggested that here this market is filled largely by Veterans' and s�rvice clubs, hotels, and church facilities. I suggested that the probl�m with that building is that its size is large compared to the available parking, and that i�s use for a banquet ha11 would not provide adequate parking on the site. 8. Jok�nson, 593-45�4 Tim and Kris Johnson were in to discuss their proposal to pu�t an addition on their house at 3066 Patton Road. It appears that the existing house was Gonstructed with setbacks of 8' 8�� and 7' 6" on either side, wherea�s ten feet is requi.r�d. We therefore reviewed the P��induand thus�expand�bleson��th� would make the hou�e conf � rear wher� they propose to add a family room. � � � � NI A `i� 3000 I � I B s '1I zeeo � �1�J C ) /{ ; / / � 60 / /� �// � �� 26f0 n�++t E� � lD20 I F I :+oo NI � N� �� , 4 � 5 } I , .! 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Nelson, 489-8857 Tim Nelson was in with Jim Evans trom Buetow's Rrchitectural office (983-6701) to review the revis�d site plan for �he JLN property at the northeast corner of Prior and Co�...ty Road C. This, you may r�call, is a 29,412 square foot building built in 1979 with an existing parking capacity of sixty-on� spaces. They propose to add eighteen spaces on the west sid� of the propert�r producing a tota� of seventy�nine spaGes. Currently, th�re is 16,500 square fe�t af th� building avail- abl�, and �hey anticip�ate a r►eed for additional parking to l�ase the space well. The new �arking arrangement wnuld conform to th� business regulatior�. Th� parking wauld thtas be setb�ck fifteen £e��t from the public right-af-way with n�w curb, gutt��, and lar�ds�aping. It is prapos�d to process this as a varianee to � the indus�rial clistric�, and ultimately rezone the land from industrial to an appropriat� business zon�. This actior� might well be a part of an overall r�zoning initi�t��i �Sy the City �or the corricioz alor�g County Ro�c3 C b�twe�n Sn�lling and 35w. This proposaZ th�n would be proc�ss�d as a va�riance, i.ik�ly in time far thc �pril rneeting of the L��anninc� �o�unis- �ion. 2. Lundahl 9�3-3031 R chard Lunr�ahl �,s �n architect c�ho Y�as be�n hired by th� Kayo Oil Campany to pr�eparc: �a revis�d pla� Eor th� red�velop- ��nt of th� �ervic� station sit� at the r�o��i�w�st cQrn�� of C a�nd Sn�llin�. we review�d this prog��ty �ait� th� rEpresenta- tives of the owners last week, you may recall. we discu�s�d � v�xy pr�liminary plan 1h� had �r�pa�ed, which inclu�d�d th� d�dication of �hi�ty feet an tho soutM far Coun�y Road C. I suggested the us� of joint driveways� pa�ticular��r ofi St��llinc� Avenu� �n th� north sid� wh3,ch would �llow mo�ring of th� building �urthcr north s4 as to �onfQrm �o th� ��tbac� requiY�ments alon�g County Ro�d C i�s�lf. H� noted th� d�sire to mov� th� sanitia�y s�wer that diagonals tt�rough the sit� so as to b� on the �aroperty canti.guo�s �c� the north and w�st p�'o��'�Y ��n�, '�his agpeared reas�nabl� tat th�ir �xp�nse.� I continu�d ta encourag� coopeXation wit1� t..f�c� Sl�wik inter- ests who o�rn la�d to th� w�st and north. I r�f�rred him to � Gary �ackson who r�presents i�rs. Slawik in som� matt�rs. � C1 Planning Office Hours February 4, 1987 Page 2 3. Lincoln, 893-9000 Dennis Houck and M. Jamie Cohen, president of Lincoln Brokerage Company, were in to discuss the potential movement of MGM Liquor Stor� to the new Lincoln Shopping Center now to be known as "Rosedale Square." They inquired as to the possible reuse of the MGM building, a 10,Q00 square foot building, which is a permitted use in a B-lb District. The MGM Liquor Stor� occupies 7,500 square feet with the remain- ing 2,500 square feet being occupied by a video store and a computer software store� I noted that the 10,000 square foot retail building is permitted, and that another retail opera- tion could be located on the site. I stressed, however, that another restararant (unless it wer� small) would not be allowed inasmuch as the parking capacity is computed based on there being a xe�ail op�ration in this location. Th� arrang�ment with MGM is that they may mo�re to th� shopping c�nter if Lincoln takes ov�r the leasing of their building. 9. wilson, 252-62�2 Steve Wilson from Hrutgers organization was in with Jame� winkles i835-5932� .�rom the W3.nfield Dev�lapm�nt C�rpor�tio�. winfield D.�elopment i� � laxg� d�veloper/D�uilder wi�h a milli�on square f�et af prop�rty �hey own or manage, �}1ey have 13d,OQ0 squar� feet in a busin�ss in New �righton, 200,40Q squar� f�et in f�ur buildings in En�rgy Paxk! and dev�lapments in Edina, Plymouth� c111C� �1�p1�„' Va11��r. Tl�ey al�c� hav� in�jor ci�velopment� in Tc�ranto, WinniP�9, R�gina, and Saskaroon, Saskatch��an. Th�y h�v� a 2Ua,OQO squ�re �oot oEfice com�lex cu�r�n+�ly being leas�d ir� Eciina �ncawn as "Edinboroug�i. "" t�esszs. ��il�s�on and winkl�s �r� laoking �� t�� pos�ibi�.ity of doing a miaced usc develQprn�nt on tiZ� Re.iling prc��perty� r�oxt�h of City Ha11. I explain�d the ba�k�rounci to this propcx��r and its Pr�s�nt, zoning suc��estinc� th�t a 6d�11 �lan��d, multi- �amil,y housinq �Loj�c� combir�� with �om� loca�l r�cighb�rhooci bus�,ness d�v�lopmer�t would b� ap�prapriate, I t�oted �he �t-� �oning law on th� wesC side Qf thc property, �uc�gest,ing� tha� '�h'��'� �� Y b� a b�tter way of making �he �ransiti�on to this sin�lc t�r�ily arca. I stressed the �mport�nce of th�t transition. They noted that they l�ave not �poP��n to th� own�r as y�t, but feel th�ir t�� campani�� could work w�11 tageth�r in �ev�loping th� lar�d, piimarily fo� multi-family hou;sirag wit� G�m� mi:�ed bu�iraess 3�v�Iapment, ��h�s� aie both good dev�lopers, an�d I encourage their participation an this or oth�r land s�n Rosevill�. � 5. Andert, 983-�223G D�n Arad�rt was in with the d�vElnp�rs �f �h� propas�d office building at the sauthw�st corner of County �2oad e-2 and Ric�. Ke o�ns th� land contiguous to th� west, arad met wi.th us last week. Planning Office Hours February 4, 1987 � Page 3 eHe has expressed concern about the orientation of the new proposed structure. We rEviewed the impact on his property, suggesting that the structure as now o�iented would work wel�. with his property in the event th�,t he proposes to develop the land for business purposes in the future. His land is zoned single family, though immediately across the street the land is zon�d and developed for business. Done properly, it may be appropriat� to �xpand business zoning to Mr. Aradert's property in th� future. He anticipates thi� wbuld not be accomplished for a period of at least twa years. 6. Kaupp, 887-61A1 8ud Kaupp from Sup�r Am�rica fowr�ed by Ashland Oil) was in with �ob Johnson, form�ez Anoka County Attorn�y, �o discuss reuse og the land ta tihe eas� of their new service station �t th�: northeast corncr of County �toad 8 ar�d Lexirrgton. �h�y havc purchased the hous� n�x� door, whic,� c�iv�s them fror�t�g� for �he land they cawr� b��hind the stor�. �his was a sugc�es�i.on tha� the s�afE h�d made s�v�r�l ye��s aQo when the� wer� con�empl�t�.ng th� develo�me�t o� the pr��serty. This is �he only r�al.is�ic way that the lar,c3��D: bnhind ti�o�.� s�ore (��t of th� s�ar�) c�n �ac utili�ed €o�r �n�th.�ng� They w�uld ��aFose to c�p�nd �arking a+hich thc� �ind h�lp�ul� � T'hi� Sup�� em�r�c� sto�c h�� k�e�n ve�y �ucc��.��ul, b+��an� �hGix c��.cu�ation�, and p�ri�ir�g i� � ne�d. They would y�rap�ose �l�a to cxp�nci th� bui,�ding �lightly b� add�.n� a �a��d oil ch�nc�e �eCilie� a��rQ;�im�t��.y �0" � �0° . Pr��i�n,i� ��ry si+�� ,��ns in�ic��.c �hi� ��►�ulc� `�ar}� w�� n �h� �i�e. � sua�g�s�ed �n�+� �riv��r�y� I�� mo+��d an 8�a a� to �Qt��n an��t �wo x�+�t�� th�n thr�� ha� r�aaa ��si�t. Thi� �a�apos�l wou3�� inyQlve �mendi�g the ��ampr�h�n�,�� P��n a� ��el�ea� to �hi� �cs�,dencc, and �t�e ��onir�g af che l�nd. 7. Jo�n�or�, 636-1334 Ri�}� .�ohn��a� ti�a�s �r� fra1� .3�P►r��n t�hc�le��l� �la� ise to �c��i�a us �� t��,r �ra�r�� fn�° �Me z•�c�e�r�l�a�m�n� c�� theix ��da T'he pz��o��d ��reho�� 3�s g�o� �e�r��ru�e�eiM 1Q�' s� �18" , andl �I�is Sg�ing they �ill i�� it�c� �h� nQ« �Y�i�+aw�g� �n� �aa��fnc� �rea work, �urbi�c�, �nci 1�ns��aping. iM�y� h�u� �1�� i�u�:�t � r��w ds��k an �he �� idc oE �h� sc�uet��. N� e�m� in �� x��ues� � peami� ��r � ee��o��;�r ��t�el �rcl��d gr�enh�u�� on the e��t �3.de a� ti�� r�e��r w�a:��ouso w�i�h �ould be up ��:om Apr�.�, 1 to ,Iuly� 1. i in�Qrm�� tM��n �h�t the 4u�lc�inc� Tr�spe�t�r coul.d issue such � p�Lmit, Th�y �gre�d �� tai�� down their roaf sign, ��ich I po�.nt�d aut� i� illeg�l� �:�th�r th�n ::�nc��:fcrr,3ir��. �i��: ��e�c� �o t��€ �3�e sy�n 3�w� by Junc la � 8. &erc�. 29?-4267 K�n Bcrg is the p�r�o�n in c}�a�-ge of real esta�� for the Glacicr P�r}� division of BNI Corporatiat�. Th� la�te� is �hc holding company for Burlingt�n Nor�hcrn, wi�ich also has extc�nsive interEsts in gas, oil, and coal beside� railroads. • � � Planning Office Hours February 4, 1987 C� Page 4 Ken Berg, a landscape architect by profession, is in charge of the Central Region which r�ins from Chicago to the Rockies. He spends about three days a week in town, and has two assistants--,7im Sigler and Rod Bolan. ,7im Sigl�r is in market research and Rod Dolan is in financial analysis. A1l of these gentlemen headquarter out of the D�nver office. The purpos� of his �isit was t�o liaison wi+th the City regarding progress and developm�nt of the Tax Increment District w�st of 35. As you kraow, Glacier Park owns the o1d H�r�t site co�tiguous to and south of the bridc�� xtension to Long Lak� Road. H� noted their plan �.s �o devElop a C�,��,� One Ma�t�1 and an offi�e structu�e on the �ite $t the � pri�te timo. t�� talk�d about �iming �nd mark�t �Aro and �l�v�lopments currentl �n p°'��i$1' woad). Y ri�'oc��s to thQ �outh 1Ros�� e poin�ed �ut �h� advanea��s of th� n�wly ,p�oposed �o�dl �yst�m providia�g a�c�s�s grom th� sa��h an� the eas� �o th� b�idgA ap�ro�ch. �fiQ �mpha��iae�d that +th�ir sita ha�s ��r@et �ron�a�e an Ibath ��ds C��st and ��D a�nd �ha� � st�aQt ��on� th�ir �ota�h p�r�i��tQ� �sn" t�aal�,y necc��sary. � ns�t�c� tha� �� t��►�, b�� hat �th�fi �t�Q�� rfl,l 1t� a�dvanta�Qou� �o �ham in��r�uc� a�� h�y h�vc� s 1Qns�e �c�ir� ��ta, �nd �ha� ¢iee�i��iAr� �� the a ic�t��-�of-�ra� �ri�� ro�� cor��truccla� ca�t i�y o�t��Q.r� may � an ��o�ri�+tc� �o�utic,r�. N� a��e� th�c h� t�� a ju�t��Y crv��y dc�cis��n hQ m��t��r� �hrouqk� � cor�pl��c �o��d dlctci��on m��n� ��ac�s�. F�� l�u�l�� th+� �i�� re� �� ra�da�ca��spinc� �hc a��a, ��id �h� co��uct��on o� �'�Q b� i�i�e. ��o��d thQ ad�+an�a��a o� +�h�i� coc��tl�n a�i�h �h� ��e� �cwar� ou� r�u�Ua�� ob�s��i��ve��. 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R„ �L t,.�i 4� � } j ► ..ri-�., � � t� _., �i � �2 � �3 �; �� rs� � �� , s� � �s � 20 =� n_ .., .,_.. , '� � " u � r M � • February 9, 1987 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, JANUARY 28, 1987 1. Conoco Oil Com anv, 615-755-9333 Phillip Beard and Jim Fuqua represent Conoco Corporation, owners of the service station site at the nor�hwest corner of County Road C and Snelling. Conoco is owned by the DuPont Corporation. Conoco had previously purchased Kendahl Oil Company which had developed the Kayo servic� station facil- ities in this part of the country. They propose to develop- ment a new (likely Kayo) station at the site. The site is 200 feet square, and we reviewed this idea with them about six months ago, suggesting that it would be a f ine idea if they were to coordinate with Marie Slawik who owns the property around it. Our suggestion was that the 200 square • foot site (200 feet on a side) is a large service station site, and at this crucial intersection in Roseville, it could be more efficiently used if it were tied in with a hotel or some other more significant development. Mr. Beard noted that they had talked to a representative of Marie Slawik's office, but that nothing had evolved, and that they (Conoco) do not want to sell the site. They, therefore, propose to redevelop this site with a new structure. They submitted a plan which had numerous deficiencies including no grass area, driveways in question- able locations, and portions of the building on the existing sewer which traverses through the site f rom northeast to southwest. I suggested they employ a local architect to carefully design this site, and that they consider joint driveways with the Slawik property so as to be able to move from this site to others without going out on the public right-of-way and reduce the number of driveways in the vicinity of this intersection. County Road C being a County road, Dave Janisch gave them a contact at Ramsey County Highway D�partment so they could rview right-of-way requirements and driveway conditions. Since this conference I have heard from Dick Lundall, • architect, who says he has been hired by the Conoco people to do a site plan, and he will be in to see us next week. Our objective here will be to get as fine a development job as possible, and still pursue the idea of coordination with the Slawik properties to the north and west. • • � � Planning Office Hours January 28, 1987 Page 2 2. Casey, 489-2259 Jim Casey was in with a revise�� development plan for his residential property north of the east/west Victoria. His revised P.U.D. and Portion of good, with the land developed into fourelargealotsp1aA common driveway will remain as a private, now and will include the 7oint drive as it exists an existing easement on thispaccess� thTheadevelopmentlis set up now so there will be no driveways on Victoria, which will be a good solution. Mr. Casey's other property to the west will remain undeveloped until the Zittel property is platted. 3. Cavanau h, 455-7100 Dennis Cavanaugh was in with Bill Sikora and Rolf Wokensgard, architect, to review revised plans for the shopping center at the southeast corner of Long Lake Road and County Road D. This Center now has about 26,000 square feet, and will be all brick with pitched hip roofs on the center. This Center should be quite attractive, and will seem to work well with access off Long Lake Road (no driveways directly off County Road D). The Center will have a convenience store with gasoline service and a xestaurant on the site, not yet iden- tified. We reviewed procedures and requirements, noting that amend- ment to the Comprehensive Plan, rezoning, and site pli��n approval would be requir�d. 4. Purdv, 774-4071 Craig Furdy owns Lots 28, 29, 2 and 3 of a subdivision between Millwood and Owasso Houlev��ard, just south of Brenner. These four lots have been combined for tax purposes, and he proposes to reestablish the lots as originally platted. He was looking for a way to do this quickly inasmuch as he apparently has some sales lin�:� up, W� reviewed the routine procedure required in such cases, which he proposes to effectuat� as rapidly as possible. 5. Anders, 484-4055 John Anders owns the property immediately westerly of the corner site at the southeast corner of County Road B-2 and Rice Street. This is the site containing the old beer hall which John ran Gt one time. The site is proposed for redevelopment with, a new real estate office building. He inquired as to enting the building to the north so thatsitbcouldebe�expanded further to the west in the future (into his suqgested he should work directl with the pioperty). I opers who are in the y Proposed devel- process of preparing the site plan. � � • Planning Office Hours January 28, 1987 i Page 3 6. Tram 633-1760 Marlen and Donna Tram were in �e northwesteco�nerb1ofreCounty opment of the rear lots at th Road B and Victoria, combining it WedhWith themeaboutealayear to the west. I reviewed this id to plat ago, and they are now seriously looking at trying this area into approximately seven or eight lots. I sug- gested they contact the owners of thnotedsthat suchta meeting pursue their cooperative effort. I with a small group could be organized at City Hall if neces- sary. Dave Janisch reviewed drainage pe°siteS� and�the landeisslow storm �ewer that runs through th on the northerly end. 7. Ket1'ler, 489-3850 Rich Kettler was in to inquire aboatoWned bySSK�thitins the redeveloping and rezoning the lan He southeasterly intersection of Roselawn and Lex�he�land for suggested he mi,ght be inandementionedeaefourplex on the Rose� multi-fami1Y housing, lawn frontage. I noted that the land values for co ariminiumanmaynbe�imprace are such that more than likely�sted that hiqher densities may tical on such a site. 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J'�l TA i� ,.,,.�,. , �:�_ �.=r�,� ------ ��r� ; ��: ,,,.�, — r , .... �� REYISEO DATE � — `�� .�"uo r _,�� " " -- � �s,o z•�-�t ors �C� �.� F ,�r c�� 5�� -.�+; -,�� i �� f �� ! -I��C �2•�6 � x_ o� o, ^—,.--� �: -N' �t ,� � II p � (— �"�'n °J � � 0 �!^ � � ", ^r s S ^}� �1 //�� • � �� ' � � � � � � ' � g � � V A � ' � � � � p l � V � � � 4I ` O •I � . O � /2 _ ?7 E G 1J _ � ri f � t-�f•)� Dft • 0 � � January 27, 1987 T0: Jim Andre FROM: SUBJECT: Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, JANUARY 21, 1987 1. Halquist, 869-5545 Harland Halquist Ys an architect working for E.R.A. Master's Realty, Inc., owned by Lee Nugent and Pete Luzark (483-2236). The la`ter organization has a contract to purchase the old bar and restaurant at the southwest corner of County Road B-2 and Rice Street, and is preparing preliminary plans for the development of the site for a 32' x 50' two-story offic� building. This would require a total of sixteen parking spaces �hich can provid�d on this relatively small site if a vaxiance ta th� parking setback is allowed on the front, and a vari�nce to the rear yard setback of the building� The redevelopm�nt of this sit� involves dedication of sixteen and one-half ��et on Rice Street, which makes the sit� size more difficult. A ten �oat s��back is proposed to th� park�ng off Rice Street (from th� n�w prop�rty line) and s�v�n fe�t from th� right-�f-way of County Raad �-2. By moving th� driv�way �asterly on �-2 and ��minating th� driv�way on Ric� Str�et, � total of fift�-t�o p�rking spaces can b� obtained. This will a�s� a�low moving th� building �hE required ten f��t fr�m the south property line which i� contiguou� ta a m�dical clinic pr�perty. �� d�ctor �wning �h�t clinic �s not in f�vor of � varianc� to thc s��ack on �hat sid� af th� prop��y �south sidc). A s�x f�at s�tback propos�d on �h� w�st sidc has becn appro�ed in wxi�ing by the contiguous property o�ner. It would �p�ear then �h�� this sm�ll site whiGh is about 110' x 113', can be tast�fully red�v�Iop�d with a split- l�vel, �wo �ta��, office building p�av��ng possibl� s�v�n- t�e� ��rking spaGes, �a 3nclude an �11oc�tion of space th�r�y f�� ba�k from the right-a.F�wa� Eor � p�lon sign lpcated as r�quired by ordina�ce tthirty fc�t fr�m thc n�w �i��t-�f- way ) . Th� a�chit�ct, Mr. �ialquist, will revis� the prelicninar� plan� and submit th�m by �he �nd of this month so a� to b� availak�lc for submissi�n anci revi�w at the March m�et�.��q Af th� P�an�ing Commis�ion. Z. JQhn�on, 34�-2Q43 Bruce Johnson live�s at 3097 wilder Str��t N�rth in Ros�vill@, and propos�s to purchas� fr�m A1 Nielsen a n�w lot to be divided on th� southw�st shQre of Lak� O�d��so, We have discuss�d and r�port�d on this proposal previously. Mr. Johnson was in with results of a more precis� surv�y� indicating the location of trPes, the lot size as it Exists, the new lot size, and the location of the proposed r�:sid�nc�. �� i Planning Office Hours January 21, 1987 � � Page 2 It appears that the new residence can be located to exceed a • seventy-five foot minimum requirement from the lake, and within the fror�t. drive req�u�hemsouthwest (Nielsenesyhouse)ris feet, because thc house t set back apprc;�ximat��.y eighty-five feet. � We requested that he show on his site plan the existing trees and those to 'be removed, and other pertinent data including the exterior elevation of the house which he has prepared. He proposes t�.o submit this next week so as to go betore the March meeting of the Planning Commission for a lot split, and approval for s,horelin� dev�lopment before the Council. 3. Sikora, 455_-7?,00 Bill Sikora and Dennis Cavenaugh, rcpresenting C. G. Rien Company, deveio�er, were in with their ar�hitect Rolf Lokensgard to rc:view a v�ry preliminary site pl�n and ext�rior el�vations of a propos�d sho�ping center to b� built at thc south�ast corn�r of Long Lake �toad ar►d County Road D. Estimated iease�ble arca is 25,700 squar� feet wi�h hard costs estimat�d at 51.1 mil.lion. One hundred and fnrty cars ar� shown, �•�hich is mo�� o��►��i�4��n��m�ch as ther� may be a r@st:.urant :�s a g C. G. Ric:n has ju�t compl�t�ct `"Shanr�an Square" on L�xington Av�n�e north of b94. Th�y propas� a cohv�ni�nc� stor� on t��n� west sidc e�E th� ce�nte� with gas p�mps, I�u;g�g�s�ed s�ar�t�ng �,hc isl�nds so es +�o �rovide be��cr �ccess and egress. �h� struc�ur� will be all brick �aith � hiP raof, �►r��l thu� should ap�p�a� qui te han�lsomc on th� si tc . Dave r�ot�ci thc ��quiremQnt fQr � sid�e��lk, �n�i review��i oth�� engin�ering Rnd utili��r c�a��+�ions �dith them. T'he pro�er�� i� in the Rice �rce1� water�t��d D,tsfiri�t, �nd «i�l b� subjec� �o �heir rev��w �� na�e�d. ��aig noted th� possil�i�ity of same �t�x increm�r�t ��si��nc�, �mph�,si�inc� the need �o� �' ��°us��ofa�hePl�nd��ndgq�ali��°� �mphasis tterc w�s on ef��c�en can��truction. They ar� c��inc� to make r�+risi�r�s �ncl be b�ck �� the sta�f ��r �urt2�er, a�evi�w. �. � erl ° s Earl gaffenbeLc��er and Kir� wMets�on wer� in wi�h �om G�rstn�x of KK.E Arct�itects to r�vie�� so�nc concerns with rc�pect to �h� site plan for the Lincoln �i��otit� andpChuck��AuF�esn��Erom County Rosd C. S�ndy L Lincolr� CQmp�nies, ��rcre �here a� �c:li. I am conccrned that th� pro�oscd overstory tre�s � th� ini.tial landscape plan may hide siqnac�e on shoPping c�nt�r iin�luding ByErly's on �he south may, th�refor�, wish to adjust th�: landsc�p�: ' de�r��. indicat�d on �h� gropos�d �nc� ) . Th�y plan ta thi� . � Planning Office Hours January 21, 1987 • � � Page 3 I suggested that they prepare a line of site section drawing indicating whether this is true and if so, we would support changes that would eliminate that problem. They note and we agree that the level of effort (cost of landscaping� shall not be less than that approved by the Council, but that we don't want to impair the success of the center by putting trees in the wrong place. They are going to prepare drawings as necessary to illustrate whether there is a problem and propose adjustments accordingly. They noted thea.r extremc satisfaction in dealing with the staff at Ros�ville. Charli�, Craig, Dave, and Gordie have all been helpful to the Byerly's folks. Mr. Poffenb�rger not�d that he has had talks with Mari� Slawik r�garding the possible r�use of the drainage pond area in tl�e southeast corner of the sit�. 'There are, of eourse, great difficulties in getting that land transf�rred and tk�e drainagc replac�d. Dave noted tha�t no s�udies h�av� b�en done to ascertain thc teehnical feasibility of that changG. I not�d, however, that if the site plan is adjusted to bring the parkin� clos�r to the parking �rea, we should file for a variance fo� that setback. The oric�in�l plan� shaw�d the p�rking setb�ck fronn tk►is ponding area which is a pa�t of t}�e riqh+�-of-way. Th�s �cijusement was eiiscus�ed as a r��ns of maximi�ia�g the amount of p�rking a��il�blc ta ��crly"s and, I�el�eve, �aas ar� im�rtant f�c�or in maki�� th�ir final detcrmir��tian to p�oce�d �ait� the Rns�vi�le location. Ch�ck DuFresn� r�car�d �hat they have no�r �ign�d �urge� erather� to 1�,279 squar� feet, and they will b� lo�atQd a� tt�� far nor�hwe�t corncr of tM� �uildinc�. Th��r �iso t��ua ta�lc�r��n' ��nd others that �re co�ning �lo�g very w�ll. i�a��r ,in �Me conferenc� the B�erly's r�presentat�ves l�ft, ar�d, �rith Gordie ��ese�h p�r�sant, we r�*viewad et�e qu�s�i�ar� aF provis�Qns €or �oil�Cs in ttte shappinc� c�en�er. G�r��na�r had prcp�red a pr��,iminary f�o�� alan sho�,rinc� �a mcathod of �ambin= inc� m�n's and �aomen"� to�l�ets wi�h two con��,guau� shops �h�aring both. I sugg��t�d th�� this will cre�t� an �lmo�t im�ao�sible s�curit� �rranc��ment, to which ttyey �c�r�ed. It w�� s�tgc�e�ted and agreed that �ollar�i,ng +�he U�G cod� stxictly would be th� bes� solutiQr�. Th�t requires a sinqlc toilet far an� ��re with gQur em�aloyces Qr l��s and/or less than 3,000 sguar� feet. ee�►ond tha�, the ra�tias apply �or �arovid- inc� mQn's ��d women's faciliti�s b�sed on t4�c �quare �ootage. SY�r�.�' S i�riil i�a�re �u1i faciliti�s �n�smueh as their stor� includes a restauiant. �uxger'� and o�h@r� of l�rg� dimen- �ian will hav� men's a.nd women's toil�ts as well. , � • ' Planning Office Hours Page 4 January 21, 1987 • The question was whether or not there ought to be provided a separate outside facility for men and women to serve the shopping center as a whole. I suggested that this would be a policing and social problem when such facilities are not in a mall. Even in a mall, such facilities are a problem. Chuck DuFresne agreed that each lease would include a provision that customers who ask shall be allowed to use facilities within each store. This facility, not being a mall, ap�ears that providing for a single set of public toilets accessibl� from the outsid� would be a gxeater problem than providing interiar faciliti�s within �ach stiore as requir�d b� code. 5. �orgersen, 984-3301 Dav� Torg�rsen is an engine�r with Carl�y Engineering Company and i� preparing the preliminary plat for Jim Casey"s property north of the curve in Victo�ia Stre��. He now has topoqraphy blown u� irom t�he City's topog�r$phy data, a�nd pxes�nted a pr��.iminary pl�t elrawing indicating a tot�l of four lot� with �n out �ot ta be awn�d comrnaniy by a r�sidential ��sociation to proivde access t�o the lot�. '�his �lim,�nates +�he public street, anc� contiraue� �tt�e acc�ss as f t has bc�en for many years. Dave �anisch �evia�ed u�ilitie�, ��d w� �a�k�d a�u� an easc�- m�nt to �.ot 3�rom the con�on ��aa�w�y �ec�ss. tiae talk�d � abaut the possibil�ti�s o� enlarging Lo� 2, �+hich is s�1b- 5�an�iall�� sm�llec thar� +�he o�her th��s�. �a� a��o notQ�i �hQ neoa for a tc��o��ry e�semen� a�c�ess to the w�es�erly ��Q�rt� which �i� not laein�! dc�uelopcsd at thi � tim�, bu� which i� a i�gi�c�l ��e of tho uleima��Q developm�nt o� �hQ �ropQrt�y t� the ��re�t ��+Mich f ron�s �n �h��swoL �h. '�hf�s is �he l�nd that wa� once p�o��ed +�o be �c+�uired �� h4 C,ity fo� � park. �n eas�,dwc�st sewer h�s f�een construc�sd throu�l� thi� �a�opcg�c� �o �hQ C�sey pro�er�y now und�r c�nsidor�►ti�n, whi�h ��ovisDe� �M� s��itary s�w�r vurler� n�ce�s�ry f�a� de�r�l�a�men� of �h�s l�nd. 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A;17 F:9yi0,12,15,16,18 !C: 20 d:5 B,D,F:10 N:11-15 1�: 7 �:�-a,10-14,16,I7 A,6:9-10;F,J:9 J:S,b,10-12,16,20;I:7 A-J:9 E-F:9 B-D:8 A-D:9 G:i9 A-3:4; &-H:1-4 �-H;1-20 6-2-� N:3-4,7,8,17 H-J: 1 C,F,�,L:1S G,H:7 H:2 6:7-$ A:l H:9 f�:�6 x:Y2 D:2� J:6 F:l-3 C:7�10.11,16;C-D:15-16 G:i8 F:9-14,26-26 8:1-2 A-L:14 C-D:19 F:19 k ; 2d? K:17-19 E-N:1 G:b B-K:�B J:4 E:20 D:DS-16 E,f:7 6t�a.I tJ:7 l��I:S I.J:Y9 E:I1 E:�1 - - - .�.. . �.� l-l�,l1-18 10,a3.14,29,2� !C: 8 �........ INN�VATI�E � �' � � MI��CC�G�tAP�ICS c� a . -.�. _r ■ � � �► � : � � _ � � , . � � � � ;� � � . ,,. � �, �,; : � � , : �► ,� � �. � � ��i L� i �'��'i�,t� �Q� � January 15, 1987 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: Jim Andre John Shardlow PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, JANUARY 14, 1987 1. Vinnes, 636-6746 Mr. Norman Vinnes, Heights Addition, Lot pracess for splitting this existi.ng lot and intend to liv� in, on they would keep the it to a ncw owner. 2811 North Oxford Street, aboutlthe 15, Block 1, was in inquiring his lot. It is his intention to split to build a home, which he and his wife the new lot. They have not decided if existing house and rent it out, or sell The two lots which would be�vr�lat�da�ou�pd�o �aetArthea85s 65 feet and 67 feet respect Y lat width requirement. The n�w lot would Y�ave an area 8,911 squarc feet a� oppose�i to th� 11,000 square of foot of foot minimum. W� ex lain�d th� Procedurc For th� apProval of this type of P Vinnes talk to all of applica�ion, and recommended that Mr. �thc adjoining prop�rty owners to in�orm tl�em as to his int�ntions. He took a copy nf �� application and is intending to s�e a land surveyor to prep�re the ne�essary suk�missior� docum�7�ts • 2. ,��,�i�, Z86-5151 .7ames P. Ju�is, of Food.-N-�uel, Inc•, was her� to discuss a roposecl Faod-t�-�u�l facility at �.he�cofnaz p��viousy service p g, TYris is thc �it 2 an�l �'�ghway ar�ntly buiit in the 1950's. �here station which W�� aPp r used to sit. i a cancr�te slab wY��z� th� �ld faciiit; iema ns The subject prop�r�y half R-1 single family contains .67:, acres, and is zoned one- �esiden�ial and one-half A-3� ��te revi�wed all o£ thc �1�me�ts of ials �nd��lanc3s�apel��lan� p�lan, in�luding th� building matcr For �nd mad� a n�unbcr of sug9�sosalSc�11� good�hecah�ating and instance� his curr�nt� prop v�ntilation systems to si� a� ai�.�rna�iveththeC�xtension o� around them. I suggest�d, as a �h� mansard rooE an addition�� withaut requiringha� box� ccampl�tely scrcen this facil.ity o¢ lik� c�dar fence to be sitting up on tc�p of th� roof . I also mu�.e som� r�cort�n�n�lations for han�v�mentf th�e lanciscap� plan wh i��h . I f e� 1, wi. l l be an imp�'o � In addition, drainage plan conv�y�d out as apposed to I sugqested some modific��ions to the site to ensur� that the �rater £rom the roo� would be onto the lot, and �rom ther� in�o a catch ba�in draining into the adjac�nt proper�:y. .� � s •' planning Of f ice Hour � JanuarY ti4� 1987 • � Mr. Juris took plans and the month to be on an application, application enda� the March a9 92?-4403 3, Hel eson gyron Helgeson was in to apartment uSingdPr��ectt Elderly Ho and plans to the CitY bY Page 2 hav endlloff the the inquire about the conversion of the Larp�nteur and Rice Street �o an 483-2236 was in rec�ardinq q, Luzairk ERA Realty, �orner of Peter Luzairk, rePr�senting �onstructed on the bar efforts to g�t a ne�Rice1Stree�. 'Ther� is an existin9 nt Road B-2 and �orner, which would be razed if this Cou y located on �hat buildin9 0 �orward. project were to g which setbacks wer� of his pr�p�rty, and w� clarif i.ed Luzairk had some confs&ian r�gard n9 ocersing the �r' which fronta9e requir�d t� �he re9uirements�ndrh� said that2l� those. we went through �s (Janua�Y lication and 'th� sch�dt�fo�°n�xtV��dn�sday he �Quld be �►�P ointmen lans which would ��k� a� 8pp tio discuss t�e p pffice Hou�s me�ting submittin9• . • January 12, 1987 � T0: FROM: SUBJECT: � L� Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS DECEMBER 30, 1986, AND JANUARY 6, 1987 1. Johnson, 340-2043 we reviewed this proposal about a week ago. The right-of-way from th�se lots is forty fe�t wide, wh�reas the right-of-way to thc south is fifty feet wid� ith� establisheei ric�ht-of-way width far 4wasso Houlevard b�ing car��iguous to the tracksl. Confcrring w:ith Ntessrs. Honchell �nd Janisch, I have �nfarmed the applicant that an additional t�n feeC of right-of-wa� should be dedicated. It appears in this c�se this would not be a problem, inasmueh as the existing h�use on th� undividec� 1ot is at le�st eighty feet from the �xisting right-of�way. H1s-. Johnson has indicatcd some concerr� �egarcling th� ten �'�et, and r�ay �dish +to discuss �his further with �ha staf� bcfoxe �roceeding witl� th� lot split praposal. 2. HatzunA 559-0272 .7ohn Wat2ung is an artchi�tect who ��me in to reviQ� with us �ropos�l� for thc rcmodclinq o� thc olcl Dust�'s Barbequ� R�estau�ar�t +�o bCcome a"Brickoven ee�nery." Thc l��t�� is a franchis� ra�taur�nt aut of Denv�r, owr��rl in this �rea by thc Dis�cus� Corporation ( t��ike Pl.��t �nd Roy Anderson ), wher� th�y ulitr�arely pr4�ase �o have abou� a do�en in the `�'win Ci�y are�, we t�l��d ab�ut color schemes, �nd suc�gested a��rk s�ait� aFp�o�cM +to the �xi��.ng woas� �reatme�t and the use of �la�n ��lorCd acdning�� ra+�her tha�n m,ulti-�olared, st�iped awnings. Thcy �re s�bviausly going through a grea� deal af �o�k h�r� �o try to est�blis�i a goo�l �xterior color tre�tm�nt. I�e- em�hasixcd th� neec� to ex��r�d the treatmen� �o �11 fou� s�d�s of the bu�i�dinc�. 3. Ros�ne, 636-A600 �ob ��s�ne is a memb�r o� �he �nc�in�e�rin� firm of Bones�roo, Ros�n�, and Andcrlik, who owrt and occupy an offic� building at the northw�st corncr o� Trunk Highw�y 36 anci Fulham Stre��. Th�irs 3s a 60 b�r 100 foot, twa and on�-ha.�f story building with approximat�ely 75,OOQ squar� �eet of grass finish�d space. They a�e conte�nplating an �xpansi�n and were in to discuss the City's policies r�garding the use oi th� land �o the narth which con�ists of four single family lo�s, thr�e of wh.ich have s�venty feet of frontac�e and th� most north�rly on@ has cighty fe�t of frontagc. Th� depth here is 267 f�et, but approximat�ly the westErly 135 f��t is subjec� to a drainage e�sem�nt controlled by the City. Doug Strong extracted copi�s of the original cas�ments, �nd gavE copi�s to Mr. Rosene so he could evaluate for himself t�e implica� tions of these e�sem�nts. , • � � Planning Office Hours Page 2 December 30, 1986, and January 6, 1987 � Unfortunately when Fulham Pond was �xpanded these four single family homeowners did not �lect to have fill deposited on the rear portions of their lots; thus, in order f or much of the land to b� utilized additional fill now has to be hauled in. Mr. Rosene notes that they have talked to all the owners, and none of them really want to sell at this point. I noted to Mr. Roscne tha� the City would be pleased to have office expansion occur on thc properties, �nd the City would be helpful and coap�rativ� in trying tio achieve that o�jective. Obviously, inasmuch as each of thc houses is occupicd by a r�sidenc�, the cast of the prop@rties is significant relative to the land area zeleased far reuse. �r. Ros�nE noted that thcy have three options: 1. Expand on the �xisting sit�, 2. Expand into the additional sites (to the no�th), and 3. �ell �heir building and move ta another sit�. Th�y will ev�luate their si�uation �nd c�nditi�ns and ��t back ta the stafg 8s they proc�e�. �. @artlett 871-6395 J m e�rtlett i� �he cont�actlpurG��r �� the Ruan site, and ca�e in to te�l u� h� h�s ��w �bandon�� rying �a �et thc � sit� �p�r�ved �o� � ne� �h�y��er a��n�y, w�ich hed be�n oppas�d b� thc �ta£f, �� is n�w �orkin� ��fectively �ieh �wo pos�ible mot�i u�ecs--that a� Red R�of $nd L�Quin�a. �he 1a�te� is �� Economy Sui�es t�� th � Sp��i�h mo�i� out of Sa� A��nio, T�xas. �h�s eampany is run by form�r exc�utiv�� from �he Denny's ar��niz�tian. Th� L�Qui��, the more likcl� prosgCct �� ehe twa, Gha�ges �40-�a� per night and h�� itch�ne��, wie� a��t�u�ant in the bu�ld�n� sometimes. The motel is �h�t h� callcd �"�igh end �conomy'" motel. 4n �h� r�m��inder �f tM� site, he axpects �o have a s�p�raee �e�tauiant f�cility. we tal�ed about pr��edures an� requirements. �e is gaing to wark fur�t»r with Mis pr�spects, �nd g�t back to the City. I i�formed hi� th� City woul� be hel�ful in m�king hi� ne� objectives work, and we appreciated hi� drQppi�g th� car a�ency from �h� site. 5. Saph�r, 920-�70Q Michael Saphir is �n arc�itect working for th� Good Earth Restaurant pcopl�a H� in�ormed us that �� roposes to add � �ati� deck on th� front of th� restaurant. It �pp�ars th�re is more than a�Pquat� p�rking on the �it� to accomm�dat� this additional usag�, but that it might be necessary to moue the par�ing spac�s in the front o� the building �urth�r to the � south. This structur� has t�e largest setback fnr th� parking of all th� restauran�s in this s�rip, �o there is more t�an adequate room to accomplisri this change. H� had not prepared prelimina�y plans as yet, but wanted to simply discuss the rules and the procedures. � � � l�J Planning Office Hours December 30, 1986, and January 6, 1987 �� Page 3 6. Gottlieb Richard Gottlieb works for the Discuss Corporation and had with him Steve Smith, who is proposed to be the new manager of the "Brick Oven B�an�ry", th� new buffet style restaurant to replace Dusty's. We again reviewed architectural drawings, and th�y noted th�y are going to the darker colar I recommend�d on the building, and �he solid awning colors. If the final result looks like the drawings, it should be a handsor�e conversion. I noteci !that th� aaerage lunch check in the D�nver prototype is 55.25. They hoP� to open t�y February 18 in t}��ir conver�ed facility in Etos�v3�le. He informed u�, in r�sponse ra our question, thm� the Fuddrucker's Restau�ant tawned by Discuss Corp4ra��t�,on) in R��ev�,lle i� doing very wcll--doing �bout forty perGent �bovQ the n�tional a�rer�g�. 7. DuFr�s�ne. 893-9000 Chuck DuF�esne was i� w��th Sandy Lin��roeh, his �ssi�tan� from �h�e Gincolr Comp�nies, to ta�k a�bou� s�c��$c�e far tr �ir nGw shop�ing cent�r. Thc: sard�nance nate� +�ha� the �hopping center is enti�lcd to c�rt�in �i�gnac�e Eor a p�rlo� ar�d fo� temporary sig�ag� �ca� p�omsatian �urp. r�s, �'h� ard�n�nce nat�� that the shapping �cent�er� ar� �l�c�wed i� t�� H=�� H�3, �►�c� �h� �C D��rict. r�� origin�lly wr,ittQn, ti�e�� rexe th� �hree disrri�t� th�t �llowet� �hg��i�g cen��r�. whe�n the �-4 d�ist�ict w�s �dc�ed, Cwhich �l�a a��.ow�� a�hop- ��.�c� cente�a �-4 notatiara ��r�s na� �dde� t� this l�st. I suggested �M�� this i� a�► �dmini�s�ratiu� �vcrsic�ht� ��d �hat th� inten� was to �11ow shoppinc� cen�e� s�c�n� fox bonifi�d s�oppir�g cer�ter� in t�� Cit�►. Thu�, th�y will p��d wi�h �he �cg��l�a�ia��s �s prescr�hed �'Qr s�o��ing ce�nter uso. Th�y infobm�ci u� th�� tk�e 1�asir�� is g�i�g well for th� cen��x, �ncl �h�� he� p��aosc eo c�ll th� ��ntctr "Ros�dsl� �q��r�." You will rec��.l that a�ter Southcial� was k�uilt �h�r� w�s cons�ructed �"Sou�hda7.� Square" shapping c�nter nea�rby. �. �ie��le 912-�27-��936 Chris S�gle i� th� repre��ntative f�om Brad�ord Schools, th� owne�s of t��inne�poli� Business �oi].�ge who �aropose to p�tr� chase and �:elocate their c�zlege on che �airUi�w School sit�. Hc is pro�asinc� t� �tructure thc purchas� and th�e r�d�v�lopa- ment oE the sit� on t�� dedicatin� �H� outdoor recreatiot�al land tca the City, and working our. � ti�� Y�a� l�ase arrangement f�z� he indoor recr�ational spac� Igym and swimming pool) with School District. . , • � Planning Office Hour � S Page 4 December 30, 1986, and January 6, 1987 � He is now preparing to meet with the Superintendent of Schools to submit a letter of Intent. He wanted particularly to review with Craig Waldron the po5sibility of the City's support in working out the feasibility of the purchase and �edication of the land. He notes that th� School �oard is asking $2.5 million for the site, and tl,at they anticipate putting $2 million into th� renovation. They exp�ct to use about 60,000 square feet for the school itself, lease the indoor rccr�ational facilities to the School Board, and lease th� remaining of the space to users that are pres�ntly in the building. I informed him that th�re will have to be some adjustment to the zaning, and tha� we are p6ssibly cansidering handling it as a Special Us� in th� R-1 District, wherein fifty p�rcen� o� the prQperty is �edicatcd for public recrcat�on. Thi� is, of course, su�ject to thc City Caunci�'s desire to handl� i� in th�t way, The adva�tage is that �hc neighborhood ta��s less risk in no� rc�oning �he land to a multipl� or busin�ss use. Thc Co�lege is a permitted use in th� �-1 District, and t�e residences for stud�nts is a Special Use. Thus, the �dditi�nal accon��odation that has to be hand��d is the l�as�� of spac� t4 okher p�rtics. I suggested tnis can be handled simi�ar eo the Specia� Use proc�ss utiliz�d wh�r� a School eaard Qr Ghurch us�� a�orm�r s�hool struc�ur� und�r � th� prese�t ordinancc u�d�r t�e t�rm "motl��a�e fmpact public or �uasi �ublic u�e" as de�ined on page 1Q af thc Zoninq �rdinance. Cra,fg waldron went t�rauc�h some �ar�liminar�r n�mb�rs s�ith l�r, S�,�qle, w►ith the bottam lir�� th�t it appears ther� ma�► k�e an ��C��►�� °� �pAraxim�at�ly �50, OQO if th� ass��sor adc��ed the �ull 52 mi3.lian in aneicip��,�c� improvem��nts to th� existin� �n��k� � value. SUbsequ�ne to th�� me�ting, howevcr, �tr. Sieg1,�: c�lled us to inform us th�t �he c��rent �ss�ssect valuation of �h� ��,ir�fieti� Sch�ol land is 57�8, 000, and th� ,�uildin� is 56,676,400 �sse�seci valuati,on on thc assessor's books. Tn� land ;s, af cour�c, nok t�x�d beirag � publ.ic �chQ41, but �hcs� a�e +�he numbers that ar� on the books for va�,u�. Obvi- ��s1Y �M� latter figure is way aut of 1ine, and would hav� �o b� ieciuced as a basis for any �,irad of ta� increm�nt district were the Ci�y to ge� involved in such a pragram ir� support o� this sehoQl's occupancy on thi� l�nd. t�tr. Siegle further infnxmeri us (aft�r this me�t,ing by 'phon�) �hak h� is prep�ring a Getter of Agr�em�nt and is proccedi.ng wi+th e£f�rts tc� purchase and r�novatE th� bui�ding. He noted further th�t the agr�emE�� w�ulcl c�a11 for the 5Ghocal Baard to l�ase th� indoor r€crc�tional space, which seems to us to b� a way af not buzdening the City with that load, This is, �� course, all t�nta�ive and subjec� to approval of the City in � all the�e arcas of potential. 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Pastorius December 21, 1988 Dan Pastorius is a real �state agent with Trapp Realty Campany and is proposing to se�.l the Antonozzi site. This is a two acre site which is zoned single family and is shown on �he �omprehensive p�.an as future high density resid.�nti.al. Dan wants to sell �he Antonozzi site to Roger Bona, who operates his service station in St. Anthony on Lowry �venue. He wants to build a car repair shop in the wooded area on the east �icle of the site and keep the existing single family home. This would require an amendment to the comprehensive plan to business, a rezoning to B-3, a�nd a special use permit ior the car repair shop in the B-3 district. We suggested that this use was inconsistent with the comprehensive plan and not in the best interest of ultimately developing this row of houses to an attractive new use. The County records continue to show this land zs industr.ial zore, an error which we have discussed. previous,� with the Antonozzi's +� and other realtors working on this property. We reviewed rezoning procedures and rec�uirements. ,� � 2. Kueppers (332-2561) Bob Kueppers, John Paulson, and Dennis Spalla, were in to review their revised preliminary plans for their potential reuse of the Paul Bunyan Motel site owned by Louis Johnson. Their plan pr�posPs the elimination of all buildings on the site, including th�e former service station at the immediate northeast corner of Snelling and Lydia. This si�te is 127.5 feet by 150 feet. About 90% of that wou:ld be utilized for panding and relocating the service road on the west side of Snelling as it enters Lydia. The residential area to the east is left in tact and all the motel buildings are removed including the apartment house on the north part of the site. The Fire Marshal joined us to look at the parking layout which includes parking along the front of the center. He said that that would be workable as long as the fire services were properly handled in the rear of the building, and of course, that the building was totally sprinklered. The overall layout looked quite good with no separate building pads out in the parking area. The Ci�ty's assistance will be needed in handl�.r� the right o:� way for the service road behind Benjamin's Restaurant and at the northeast corner of the site at Lydia and Snelling. There is � also a significant soils problem on the site where part of the � site was at one time a dump. We suggested he speak with Craig Waldron regarding any form of City participation. We n�ted that such participation can best be handled as assistance in curing soils problems, rights of way, etc. Mr. Keel no�ed that MNDOT has indicated the possibility that they would assist in the reconfiguration of the service road system where the service road will be pulled back away from the main line traffic on SnelTing Avenue. This is in accordance with norma� procedures. 3. Schneider (631-2211) Bruce Schneider represents Pacific Mutual Door Company which is the distributor for Anderson Windows which r�presents 60a of their business. They h�ve been iri RosevillF. for 25 years and propose to expand their site by purchasing the old Reily Tire site, where once Thermo King had thei� maintenance operatinn (west of Fairview, south of the tracks and County Road C). Their existing building is 65,000 sq. feet with 102,366 sq. feet of land. They propose �o double the building to 110,000 sq. feet and will have 260,000 sq. feet of land. In response to their question, we suggest�d that the garage doors not face Fairview Avenue where the parking setback is required to be 40 feet (in �he front of �n industrial building). We suggested that the L- shaped parcel that they are purchasinq could be best adjusted with the property to south so as to eliminate the L, and �hey would ther�fore gain some frontage on Fairview. This would be � hel�ful in as much as their current drawings show only a 3 foot setback for the parking on the south side which is inadequate. They propose to refinish the old building and construct the new building of precast panels. We noted in response to their questian that the actual floor area ratio which is .3 in this district is less important �han that they have a site that loaks well �nd works well. They are going to try to adjust the land with the landlord to the south and will back for further site plan review. 4. Peterson ( ) Gene Peterson was in with his son Randy, along with Bi11 5evers of Construction 70 and P�t Johnson, Planning Commission Chairman and Frank Rog, Mayor of Roseville. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss actions that might be taken to redevelop some of the properties in the northeast quadrant of County Road B and Snelling Avenue currently occupied by the car. wash, a�d office building, and the old service station now vacani. Mr. Peterson claims he has purchased the station, and has applied for a rezoning to B-3 and � special use pei-mit for a Car-X Muffler Shop, which was recommended to be turned down by the Planning Commission and is in abeyance before the Council. The �bjective would be to �.mprove the development potential on the corner by perhaps combining some af the parcels (perhaps �he service station and the office building s�t�), thP rerouting of the � traffic off the service road and the potential vacation of the serv ice road right of way. This vacation could increase the + a roxima�ely 50%, there being a width service station s site bY PP of a proximately 70 feet. After n�uch discussion, it was agreed p that Mr. Peterson would prepare deve b pmec ��i ai g theh service propose to develop the land by possi y station and the office siie, plus a 35 foot strip of land owned b the people who recently purchased the car wash. It was agreed y ou ut a new building on the service station site a� that or�Ce Y p time before significant changes can be is, it would be a long made to improve the traffic conaitio � wouldp be approp riate lto of the site. W� all agreed that i ex lore these potentials nowo The ultimate use of the service p that the use of s�tation aite was discuss�:d with th� und�rstanding or a the land in that key part of the Gity for a Muffler Shop auto mall may well be inappropriate. Other uses wer� discussed, all of which Mr. Peterson noted he had developed in other par s of the City on previous occasions. 5a Bro�an (416-9470248) Allan Brown, partner in the Tanurb firm eliminar� plans�for the with Jim Dahlberg from KKE to discuss pr reus� of the old Control Data site a� Ite Wasu gerierallyr agr�ed County Road B-2 and Fairview Avenue. in center that the redevelopment °ot the i sue,fbut that Sof pt e handling g�enera l l. y a s p r o p o s e d i s n of the entrance and �raffic We bein e done bylStryqa nRoscoe e rand They have so m e t r a f f i c a n a l y s i s g �they have prepared 4 or 5 alterna�te �1 f� �a �,°eW�� he �m phas a s cwas t o the site to t h� s o u t h e a s t c o r n e r (,� h� s access direc t ly a c r o s s p l a c e d o n t he desira bi li t y a f h a v i�o o s e d f o r R o s e d a le as mos t the street fzom the new aecess p p recentl discussed wii.:h representatives �lsed 5soaas to c reate Y staff. We sugg�sted that the design be r an attractive and functional entrance, S e�, that emex�ges tatnthis from the service roaa south of �he cent same point on the site. In as much as 6�� of the Rosedale it is Yikely a similar traffic comes north off 36 (on Fairview) Yt is per�entage would apply to this center (at least). therefore important t�at this access W�fered by t elst ff eand They are going to consider suggestions be back with revis�.on� next Tuesciay px'ior to our preparation of orts for the January Planning Commission. They noted planning rep eo 1e could not commit to the relocated that the Rosedale p P e�ission from the principal entrance until they have received 1? ob'ect to this change tenants. It �s anticipated tha� Wards may 7 in as much as it increases the distan �ha�r we should rproceed entrance to their sto_re. We suggested that if the adjustmer_ts have to with the best solution, realizing Wi11 then revise their design be made, we can do so later. They a nd with this concept in mind and prepare them for Planning Commission and Council review in January. � � � . 6. Webb (631-3825) � Richard Webb, Hugh Maynard (attorney), Stephen Bursth of Arvid Elness architects office, and Bill Smart (Liberty Real Estate Company) were in to review their final development site plans for the new Rosewood Estates Senior Citizens home off Victoria and westerly of Lake Owasso. They reviewed a number of engineering items with Karl Keel inciuding delineation of the west property line on the survey, revisions to the drainage so as to divert water as much as possible to the south, acquisition of permit from Metropolitan Waste Control Commission regarding relocation of the intercept line, the necessity to remove the abandoned man hole at the northeast corner of the site, acquiring approval to build a new 6" sewer line for the residents to the north (tc� the new interceptor line) provide sewer easement across the parking lot for the new interceptor, and the escrowing of funds for the construction of a sidewalk. We also reviewed the lands�aping plans and asked them to submit a revised plan ta our office along with the previously approved plan for review. The new plan is in fact better than the original plan except additional carniferous trees wi11 be added as initially proposed on the north side of the site where it is contiguous to a single family r�side�ce. There objective is to get a building permit next week and it appears that this will be possible with the adjustanents reviewed at the meeting. s � ,��o A � B c.� C erw � ;�sc E �s F � G ,u+ F � �o � � ,� ' � " � o, �, PLANPIING OFFICE HOIJRS 1 �:26-, " � �o � � � z� �2 � �3 -� �4 :� �5 -� �s � � r -� �� ' ~� �� -i .-n-n w R-77 :�v 11•!-II •-��.» e�a i� • Z • �� n-�•as vee s.�.�� s�s DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN � � ) sso � � G � H � I za,o J � KoQ L ,..o December 20, 1988 • TO: FROM: �UBJECT: Steve North Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, December 14, 1988 1. F3owe (484-3244) Gordy Howe was back to talk about his pending plans for the redevelopment of the Herm�s Greenhouse site at 2025 Roselawn Avenue. This is a 4.5 acre tract of which h� now propos�s to build 1G one level houses for the empty nester market. These would be one bedroom homes on lots that vary from 80 feet to 55 feet on the building line. He anticipates these units selling from $150,000 to $200,000 with square footages of approximately 1700 sq. feet. We suggested tlzat he keep the density within the R-1 allowed, in as much as this area is surrounded with larger �ingle family 1ot development. We noted that under these conditions, putting in the smaller lots may prove to be a problem for the immediate neighborhood. We suggested that h� discuss this with the neighbors in the area before proceeding much further with the small lot concept. 2. Hauer (484-1122) � Calvin Hauer owns two lots that front on Millwood (on the north side) and Owasso Boulevard (on the south side). 'I'hese lots were part of the original plat, and are clearly developable as separate parcels. However, in 1970, he combined these two lots into a single parcel for homestead tax purposes. We explained the reasons for their now having to be resub�ivided, and the procedure for doing so. His house occupies the southerly most lot, and clearly the lot to the north is buildable as a separate parcel with a frontage of 100.27 feet on Millwood. �� 3. Wilson (252-G262) Steve Wilson was in to review his very preliminary plan for the redevelopment of the Concordia High School site. The revised plan consists of e:tght unit townhouse structures, each with a single garage. There would be a total of 208 or possibly reduc�d to 200 ultimately. The original plan had �?97 units, and the second plan had 237 units. Mr. Waldron notes that the deveJ.opment will pencil out quite well for tax �.ncrement purposes as it relates to the acquisition of the recreati�nal building and site. Because the reasonable cost of land per unit goes up with townhouses as compared to apartment units, this development produces enough cash flow in increment to make it woLk. Mr. Wilson no�ed that the buildings as he is proposing are similar to those done by Hans Hagen on Radio Drive in Woodbury. We noted C some concerns in the site plan (which at this time had been done only very roughly). Mr. Wilson noted that his architects, Pope � Associates, are currently working on a revised plan with this basic concept in mind. Mr. Wi.lson's layout did not 1ncl.ude access to County Road B2 which we think should be �dded as a matter of reasonable convenient circulation. We suggested that such a dev�lopment would not have a deletericas �ffect on contiguous property on County Road B2. Mr. Wilson will be having a meeting with the neighbors on Thursday, December 14th. He has met with some of the leaders in the neighborhood who apparently feel this plan has considerable merit. 2t is unfortunate that the plan does not have som� of the good qualities of the previous plan. This parti.cularly relates to the handling of the site conditions contiguous to the Temple. Whereas, the previous plan created a corner lot for t�.e Temple with an additional 30 feet in width of property, the current property backs the townhouses to the common property line (west side of the Temple site). � ,• There is nothing wrong with developing the property for townhouse purposes, though in most ways the plan previously produced, was single family, townhouses, and some apartm�nts was in rnany ways superior. It appears that the R-6 zone would be most appropriate for the site requiring 4000 sq. feet per unit. It appears that the plan as rouqhly proposed at this time, there is 4,188 sq. feet per unit. Mr. Wilson noted comments regarding the �pecific design changes which hopefully can be incorporated in an ultimate plan if this land use concept is to be pursued. � i z� 2� 3� 4� 5 �� A �� B= u�- C- c�a D ji�0 E �s F c�s G � H zis.Q ! two J 19Z0 K a I � 2•� 3�� 4� ��oo R�SEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNINC t?FFICE H011RS �'�•1�•� DAHLGREN SHAROLOW h UBAN �:I ��I c� c:� �n � � � � �? �fi 13 � 14 s 15 �; 16 ={ 17 � 18 �; 19 � 20 '� � 10 �^ I t � 12 � 13 i� 14 :� i5 � Iv � I7 $� 18� 7 19 � 20 � � � � 0 � A � B � C :•� D tsL E � F � G �� H r,�o I � J �,:� K ��r_ :L ,..� e-1 D�cemb�r 15, 1988 � TO: St eve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJE�T: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, December 7, 1988 1. Anderson (771-3797) Lee Anderson had an appointment to discuss developing a used car sales aperation in Roseville. He is with the Street Machine Company. He did not make this appa�ntment but the �ottom line here is that used car �ales as a separate principal use in Roseville are not allowed. Used cars are listed only as accessories to a new car agency. Car and/or truck rental a�e a special use, and these cars may be sold �rom the previously rented stock. 2. Gray (292-4420) Rick Gray is an engineer with TKDA, and that company was invalved in the architectural engineering phase of the preparation o€ a comprehensive PUD for the Roseville portion af the Northwestern College site. Since that time, portions of that PUD have b�en accomplished which include 1) a new southeast entranc� to the � site and 2) new access to the southwest around the ball field graded, but not paved as yet and 3) the new ball fields configuration have been completed. They are now raisinq funds to construct �he �ymnasium building which is a part of the PUD done 2 years ago. There�ore, they have commissioned TKDA (Tolt2, King, Duval and Anderson) to prepare preliminary architectural plans for that building. The building has been scaled down substantially from the original, but the building is now located 120 feet from the southeasterly shore of Little Lake Johanna. Tha previous design indicated only a corner of the �uilding to be within 120 feet. we sug�ested that the building could be mov�d slightly further from the lake, in as much as that is one of the concerns previou�ly expressed by the neighbors. We discussed placing it perh�ps 150 from the lake. The shoreline ordinance requir�s a business building �o be 100 feet from the shoreline. This land is, of cau��se, zoned ��1, and is a special use in the R-1 district. Nowever, the bu�ldinq is more th� scale of d business building, thus we thinl; the business criteria should prevail. The residential setback from the shoreline is 75 feet. If 150 feet is used, this would possibly allow for same expansion in the future. The plan of the building is conducive to this concept. Karl Keel noted that tYiey will be redoing Lydia next �rear and we • suggested that that �oould be th� time to take out the old entrance at the immediate southeast corner of the site which � still remains. It the college's in�ention to convert this to a � access. [�e suggested that this be carefully done in as much as the image of the college is important at this corner of the site where it is highly visi.ble from Snelling Avenue. We noted that the capacity of the new gymnasium when used for a large eUent is 2500 persons. We suggested that in a new pl.an, that they ma}:e sure that there is adequate accommodations for that parking. We noted cancern of the fir� marshal of park�d cars cloggir�g the raadway systP�, which thus might impede the passage of li��: saf�ty vehicles. He is qoing to revise the plan based on these consi�erations ana will be back to see us. The buildings are not con�emplated to b�e constructed for several years. 3. Golineaux (633-3500) Jerry �olir�eaux, presiden� of �2oseville Chrysler/Plymouth was in to review the prapos�d �ariance which would allow hi,m to repla�e the existing Chrysler/Plymouth sign on Long I,ake Road with a �1�ightly larger sic�n. His proposal is to put in the same sixe sign that was a�prov�ci for Bill 6dheei+er �who runs th� new I�oseville Dor�g� agency down the street. �'�is sign is 185.38 sq. fee� in aarea. ��e sugg�sted in �� much as thQ si�gn was approvod for ar� ager�cy down tho stre�t, th�t it would be a s��min�ly reasanabl� proposal for his sit� as well. Tha Ag�ncy wa� bu,�lt in i972, an� rir. Go�.ineaux bought it 1982. Wc� al�o suggast th�� i.�h r�s�a�ck to (h�s tet�por�ry usQ p�rmit �ar his modular buildf n� wi�i�h goc� ta th� �ouncil n��ct t�iond�y r��ight th�t !�a g�repare a ��res acGur�t� sita plan showing �h� p��ki�aq as it reall�r i� �nd not as it wa� origin�lly p1�►nn�� wh�n the buildfng was cangtruct�d. �#e �gre�d to revise thi� pl�n and �ubmit it l��Eor� Manday �o we h�v� an accura�� sit� plarr Por the proc�ss. a. scott (z9G--3a4Q) Nick Sco�� nd hi� wife So�ry�� (Nick is with th� A�tortnay GQn�ral'� oE�ic�) to disc�ass �ap��,cing o� �ho signs rar� the twa apz�rtments th�t thes�► own on thc� n�►rtk�Q��t quaeirarit vP County Roa�3 B�nd DAIa Str�e�. They �r� going te, x�nema �h�a ap�rt�,c�nt� fr�m pArk�riew ri�nar to Ro��v�.a�,r A�ar�cments. Th�y ��n� ta� �ut up � sign �X6 f�et wtaich 3.� allowAkalm �or � numbar o� �pa��ctt�Qnts thQ� hav�. fi��a�v�r, �he pr�obl�m is �hat th� �xist�nc� �igns appc�ar to be right on th� �ight of way. Na vari�n�s� ��ra� ev�X issu�� £or tiiis placr�mea�t. It is, tt�erQFor�, n�cassax�y tor them to �p�ly f�r � var3.anco to thc� �Eront y�rd setl�ack if the� wish to �at�t fi.ho sign cl�oser thar� 30 feet frc�m ti-�e front �rap�rty iine. 4rle suggest�d �hat a ground �igr� whieh w� �k�tched, could b� ap�aropri��ely plac�d Y�alf th� normally required ciistan�e from the right of �►ay (15 �'e��) . The� thouc�h� �h�y �cc�uld s�mply r�pl�ce th€� signs an,d had one alread� ��int�c� whic:h �t�� ai� �H�y �p�n� several hundr�d dol�.ars. That �ign, how�ver, cont�ins the nam� � Ros�view Ap�rtments, one or �wo bedrooms, �nd th� t�l��hon� numbe�. We noted that this is not a n�me plate sign but is a leasing sign. They have a right � for a G month limi�ted in the mean ��fie period. We ��gn, prepare a more 5• PauZson (636-6730) to put up such a leasing sign suggested that they do that and permanent sign as a name plate Pam Paulson is the local manager for Days Inn located at the northeast corn�r of Oakcrest and Cleveland Avenue. This is across the stree� to the north froan the Holiday Inn. That site allow� a pylon sign 45 feet high with 225 s would like �o propose a sign to be higher thanfittisn sheawasTnot aware of the exac� height of the existing sign. The Holiday Inn sign to the south, of course, is 102 feet high. We su e tt�at it may be apgropriate for them to hire a sign consultantted cansider what height might be a to ��u�.d propose a variance gor that ropriate and if they wish they are raot interes�ed in having a sign larger than whatei stalloweey There ar� 72o Days Tnr��s in the countr d. investor owned as i� the .ase here. Y� most of which are � � .� � a �. B J u�s C ) � / � t7W / D / {.w �. E � � F � G � H ufQ / I :ao ` J � � K � �� - a � . q o ° � � g � g "� 10 � II �I 12 '-� 13 -� 14 � 15 �� 16 0 6 « 7 0l . I �� 2 g� 3. � . . 4 � 5 �I _. 1I ' .-- -- _ • - --.� N � � ' � , ;�, ,� �� ,,a� n _ � r r � �+' �,t. � �; �I _ _ � � 2 , � 3 � �+ �� ;, � �, ei • :, � N � E Y I�L L E.:��::� ��.. _ ROS .. MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS �'Z • 7. �d DAHLGREN SHARDLOW & UBAN . � �� I i R � I 9 �� 20 '� �LJL,�Juuuu�^� -u 7i -n r� " r' 18f 19 � '� 12 °�13 .� 4 el 15 zl 16 � 17 �I � �I 20 _I ` � �t�►'�IZSDi� a � e � C z,w D ;is0 E (� �F I[ � � G _ :=.a — H _ � I �' 204Q J � 19Z0 lC K . l� ,.oa;. " L ,� �.,o -i `i 'o � • � November 29, 1988 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Tri Land Properties November 23, 1988 Rich Dube was in representing Tri Land Properties who are the new owners of the old Spartan Discount site at 1215 Larpenteur Avenue where Rainbow Foods is now located. Tri Land Properties bought the property in September 1988 and are considering redeveloping the land in various ways. Mr. Dube was in to discuss possible options for the remodeling of the building or the possibility of removing the building entirely. He noted that all the options will expire in January 1990 and thus they have some flexibility as of that date. He also noted that his company is interested in doing the job. They are shopping center owners who tend to hang onto their properties. He mentioned existing developments in Philadelphia, Baltimore and Indianapolis. The existing development consists of 16,000 sq. feet in theatre use, 19,000 in the craft shop, and 36,000 sq. feet occupied by Rainbow Foods a total of 72,000 sq. feet. He indicated that people are interested developing an additional three screens (going four to seven). The craft shop possibly being reduced to 10,000 sq. feet and the Rainbow Food store increasing to possibly 50,000 sq. feet. There are going to proceed to develop this plan options and will be back to discuss it with the staff at a later date. 2. Kueppers (332-25G1) Bob Kueppers, Dennis Spalla, and John Paulson all from Fine Associates were in to discuss the proposed additional development on their PUD at the northeast corner of Snelling and County Road C. They presented a preliminary plan indicating the further development of the land utilizing a restaurant and a one story retail building at the far easterly end of the site. We suggested that development of that scale was significantly less intensive and less valuable than previous proposals which indicated a multi-story office buildi�zg and a residence inn for the remainder of the site. We noted that there might be considerable concern on the part of the City because of previous promises from Fine Associates to develop the land in a more meaningful way at this very fine corner in r�seville. Mr. Kueppers responded this with the fact that the market is soft for office buildings. We suggested that perhaps �hey might have to wait until more appropriate uses can be found that are more consistent with what was originally proposed. They also discussed the progress in getting a residence inn development on Louie Johnson's property (Paul Bunyan Motel site). They noted their agYtement with the corfiguration of the service road bringing it westerly on the south end, and with a hook at • the north and a service road entrance on Lydia further to the west. This is in accordance with what we had previously discussed. They have made an attempt to acquire the property at the northeast corner (the old service station site).. We expressed the City's interest in having this corner site be a part of the overall development, and in removing the multi-family building that exists further to the west of the service station. They also discussed the possibility of leaving the single family home that exists to the west of the Paul Bunyan Motel site (where they own the rest of the lots). They noted the difficulty extending the residence inn development that far to the west in as much as it significantly reduces the important frontage on Snelling Avenue. We suggested that it would not be necessary or mandatory that the development extend into this single family platted area, but to do that only if it significantly improved the development of the remainder of the site. They continued to hold an option on this site and we will be working toward the additional development concepts as they proceed with �their marketing efforts. � i 3. Nichols (633-1195) Steve Nichols was looking at the purchase of a house at 2971 Rice Street where he is thinking of moving his ice distribution business. He has a large walkin freezer where he stores ice and • two pickups to deliver in the Metropolitan area. We informed him that such a use would not be allowed under the single family zone, and the rezoning of the land at this time for utilizing that single property for a business purpose might be very difficult. He wants to purchase a house where he can run his business from the back yard. We talked about other possibilities, noting that he miqht not find such a location in the City of Roseville. He currently operates out of New Brighton. 4. Doyle (699-3224) Dave Doyle and Jeff Johnson were in to discuss their possible development of approximately one acre site north of Jim Trapp's old gas station on the northeast corner of County Road C2 and Old Highway 8. They presented a town house concept which is similar to one developed at 882 West Cott Trail in Eagan. We discussed code requirements and particularly that of parking.,i We suggested, as we have in the past, that this property combined with the Trapp property to the south thereby making a far more developable parcel and solving the ultimate land use question of the old service station site. We suggested that he get together with Mr. Trapp and attempt to put the two properties together, noting that a well designed town house developme�t would�be an appropriate use (the land is shown as business in the • comprehensive plan). 5. Haluptzok (339-4200) � �� • Dick Haluptzok of KKE Architects was in to discuss revised development plans for the Bradford School site at the northeast corner of Highway 36 and Lexington. We reviewed adjustments to the plan, including accommodation for water service looping, dr.ainage, and vehicle access purposes. 6. Tramm Kim Tramm was in to discuss optional adjustments to his development plan for the property north of County Road B, and westerly of Victoria. We discussed methods of handling the turnaround so as to conform to the dimensions required by the Fire Marshal, and utilizing a joint driveway concept vs. a private street controlled by the development of a association. He has not decided which technique to utilize at this point but wi11 be looking at options prior to a reconsideration o� the development proposal. ; �f � � � � • � :� = °'' " = � 19 � 20 '� � � QI 2� 3� 4� 5� g=� 7.' g� 9 � J 10 .� I I =; {2 "'d 13 � 14 •, 15 ' 16 = 17 =� 18 =y o� /,` '� i� 7110 1 a �6 8= �- C� � �,.� , D :.w E �s ' F � G � H �s_e I :wo J 1920 K �.� a � �I 2�� 3 � 4 � RosEv�«E MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HQURS .! j•L'�ab DAhLGREN SHARDLOW S UBAN �•--�—.. � Ip =^ II � 12 �j�13 i; 14 ;' 15 � 16 � 17 $' 18a � 19 � 20 � a ,� e � G � -D _ �� =E lf � t� �; F �� G _ __.� — H _ �s I � � J � � �. K � ,.� �. � L If�'J • . �. x � U � � November 29, 1988 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: 1. Reger Steve North Howard Dahlgren pLANNING OFFICE HOURS, (893-9000) November 17, 1988 Matt Reger from the Lincoln Compan�os Ses to take over the tspace the Duling Optical Company who P p in Center formerly occupied by Vision World in the Fairdale Shopp q in the northwest quadrant of trunk Highway 36 and Fairview. Duling Optical has 250 stores in the United States with 14 in the Nietropolitan area with three more coming. Their headquarters are out ot Louisville, KY. Vision World operated an optic�l laboratory in tallowed m as an the s hopp in g c e n t e r b u i l d i n g w h i ch the City l a s s ancillary use t o t he princi pal permitted use of the eye 9 store. Vision World uses it as a regional laboratory w here a s Duling Optical will use it for production at the Roseville store only. Each of there stores has a labo�r �h� Y�n�ustry Yt day rovThe �he normal one hour seruice typlcal store and the basement include 6,500 square ¢Qet �stedith�t�the square feet are up stairs (retail sal lass `laboratory would be reuse of the space for an eye g oF use will far less than appropriate in r�v d Ch J an��Stoute noted that they would normally previously app eo 1� upstairs in the have 2-3 people in the laboratory and 4 p p retail store. Part of tD�ere lower space is utilized for a lunch room, restroom and storage. 2. Nelson (ass-9871) Scott Nelson is at 1027 ��]• County Road � next door to Jody Younqers (City Parks and Recreation iot �tare con�iguous h�nd1197 at 1035 W. Caunty Road B. Their ieet deep and they proposE to jointly ne pX�ord Streetawith their lots €ar a new lot wh�.ch would front frontage of 78 to 80 f�et. Location of the �x�.sbe� acc m lished out buildinqs are such��bie� 1ot Son ala dadcur��ntly not us�d. producing a very desi Across the street from the prop�os is considered cons'�st nt with feet in width, thus, the proper y th� general lot size in the area•ea and wa.11 pr c ed �wit hla proposal with residents in the ar normal lot �plit application. 3. Dahlberg (339-4200) Jim Dahlberg of KKE architects, was in with Robert Holtman and � Stephanie Harris of Toys 'R Us. Mark Westra, attorney, and Tom Erhlick and Al1an Brown both of Tanurb, who were the developers • of Loehmanns Plaza, were in to review preliminary plans for the redevelopmant of the Control Data Site at the southwest corner of County Road B2 and Fairview. Their plans indicate an access to the south west corner to Fairview, which we had previously discussed as being important to coordinate with the Center Companies as it relates to the relocated access to Rosedale to the east. We suggested that thsy work directly with the Center Companies, and the traffic consultants to work out this common access point. It is obvious that if this access is not provided to both east and west at a common point, that the access to the new center will be a right turn in and right turn out only (on Fairview). We suggested furthermore, a revision to the geome�trics to the access at the far northwest corner of the site. We also discussed the possibility of changing the interior layout at the southeasterly access pQxnt (the ane common with Daytons) so as to be assured �hat there wi�l be adequate traffic capacity. They will have th�ir traffic people look at the geometry of that Ioca�ion. � � There is one s��a�rate p�th on the site to the nartheas� corner of the site wh�re access woul.d b� confined to right turn in and right turn out at a consid�rable distance fxom the in�ersection. We discuss�d architecture and building materials �mphasizing the need for a continuity o� materials on al�. four sides and thc screening of roo� equipment by thQ usQ of Par��ot rather than "pic}�et f�nees" around the �quipment. �de dfs�uss�d signage noting ordinarrc� require�ents, anc� rocom�n�nding that they come up with �n ov�rall signago program for on building sic�ns and pylons. They will k�e Att@m�ating to complatQ th� �aQ��.ication m�t�ri�ls by thc� and o� the mcanth, though �l�at ma� n�t b� ��asible �rom the st�ndpoint o£ iinal tra�Pic con�iderations. R+le �uggmstec� that �omQ �dditional traffic d�+tails coulcl be work@d on aft�r that point, but �hat it is importnnt to h�ve fin�2 �aroPo��l� clarified for presentation at tho Fl�nning Commi�sfon h�arinc�. 4. Schultz (�2f-�27Q) ��na Schul�.z propos�� to purcha�� th� �roperty at 3007 Vi�ctoria which consists af r� #�ous� on 200 f�et oP front�c�e. H� discus��d the pos�ibility of dividinc� th� land into 3 lo�s one of which woulci b� 80 fee�t and two wcauld I�o 60 �e�t. We sugc�osted that that propo�al is less t�an th€� 75 foot stnnd�rd lot wid+th in the area, and that m�y bQ inappropriate. 'Thc� lots to the north and south are 100 feot in width. it may bo mor� ap�prop�iato to divide the l�nd into twa p�rcel� rather than three. 5. Fischer (457-G500) 3ay Fischer is with Merrill Lynch, and wa5 ir� to inquiare about the possibility of r�zoning a single family lot at the top o� the hill as you go up Eustis Street, north of County Roa�i B, at the . far west end of the City. Eustis curves up the street and is considerable higher than the apartment house of the west. It is • the access to the cul-de-sac which is occupied by about eight single family homes. We suggested that rezoning in this parcel would be difficult and likely inappropriate in as much as it is an integral part of a cul-de-sac that is totally occupied by other single family homes. 6. Murnane (420-7514) Tim Murnane was in with Brian Wengard who are with the Told D�velopment Company. Also with them was Arnie Gregory from Can- Am, Dan Hunt from Coldwell Banker, and Warren Brower. They were in to discuss the development design, potential, and access to the previously ap�roved shopping center portion of Can-Am's multi family housing �evelopment on the George Reiling property. They wanted consideration to providing a separate access drive to the center off Lexington Avenue. We noted that this would not be possible under the development as approved and suggested stronqly that by �he proper handling of l�ndscaping, walls, signage, and geometrics of th� driveways that the common access drive that was approved will work very well. We noted some examples wh�re such conditions have been successful and that th� grades, line of sight, �nd other visual relationships to the access drives to �ho c�nte� w�re suck� that it would work. They aqroed to pursue a solution leaving the access as approved in trie original PUD. � 7. Wilson (252-6262j StQve WiZs�n o� the Brutg�rs Companies was fn the Mike MichgQls, to ciiscu,ss his groposed additfanal drivew�y providing access to th� proposed multi f�mily housi�nq s�te gan�:r�lly in tha northwQst quadrant of trunk Mic�hway 36 and �tice Street. It app�ars tha� tha c�rad�s to ti�is propo�od �riv��Q driv@way to Minn�sot� S�troQt will run up to 8�. We suggest�d that thQ b@st solution w�s to proyicl� that aeces� plu� tk�Q roadway to Rice StreQt where it a�p�ars th�t 30 Paot �tr�p af lAnsi frontinq on Ricc� St�Qet is � g�,r� of the lot whore tho �aroposed development is to occur. HB no�ed that MND4T i� r�luc�ant to givo him acc�ss to Rice Str�Qt. 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MINNESOTA `� REV15�D OA7E ., - � � � d ..�_��._... i ., . �� ,. . `' r�" ` � _, � . �._1, _. ._.� __.._� .. . � .�.3 �. �'`�r"� � , ;N xa ' > �� " , _ , �, , I �....�+ tl -,_ �., �..� ; —*-- '�� °' �� «, ." � � Q 1 ' i6 � d7 �:� !8 �, 19 � 20 '� PLANNING OFFICE HOURS ;='�"�' . ,. ., �� y. °� �� .r.r 4 II � i• '_� I�," ' � '' � •.a-n !a� —_� � �� a•a a a... � ... .• a.». '""; DAHLGREN SHAROIOW � UBAN � � Novemb��r 9, 1988 TO: I'ROM : SUBJECT: 1. Hanks Steve North Howard Dahlgren PLANNING 4FFICE HOURS, (522-2095) Navember 2, iggg Todd Hanks is a younq man who currently operates an engine rebuilding service out of his parents c�arage in Robbinsd�le. W� is looking fcar a site whcro h� can �urchase � housQ and hava space to bui3�d a'�pole laarn" (apProximat�ly 40xG0 fQat) far his engi.ne rebuilding business. Ho is inquirfng �baut th@ possibility of buyinc� th� Anton4af road C2. ��'oPQrty at 2373 W@�t Cou�ty Thi� l�nd fs indicatQd as m�1ti ��mily housing an the land usa pi�n, �nd includas tha fiv� houso.� on tt�� north $�c�@ �� C2 that are sout� o� the G�rl�� Ap�rtments built eb�aut 1� �r��r� ago. Tho land �s zonad �ing�c� fa�mi� in �he �uture fc�r mult� fami�y haus� g� �a� gre d upon w�th��N� land own�rs� as o� thQ t�m� o� tho �clo�tian �n tha 1�►80 1�ncD u�Q pl�n. �ae h�v� p��vic�u�ly discu�s�d �h�,� 1�nd �ith ��e��r �t��h thc� �u�1Qr ComP�ny �rho i� undcr thc� ,i�prc��on thz�G �ho l�nd i� zoneci indu�t�ial. �etQ sug�c�� t� %!r. 1i�nk� t��t �a�oning o� t�is l8nd to �n�u�tria� (and �Q �n�Qnr��ng thc� corn;p�c�ha�nsivQ ��n) would likely be e c��i�u�� pa�ocQd+urc�. Ono o� thc� hou�a� �,� o�n�d by an �tta�rn�y �rho wQ �r� ��r�r� �i�i�1y ��n�� to kctc�p c�v@r�+thing �h� ��r iC i�. It �ac►uld BQ�� t�o�t �}��a�o�e�� th��t ��t. somca �aoin� in kir�o �'or �i� �� hc� ��u�c�� t� ta� ��c�t�:�rcz� �Q� th� l�a�d to �a ��d��opo+d �o� r�u��i ��ily hou�ir�g pur��c�� i�A� �i�cu��Q�l Q�hQr p��n�i�l l�c��i�t��, ��c�c�l� out��a a� Ra�c�vi 11�, 2. �Cht�A�� (��-�.17�� t�1#�icc� �chw��t� oa�n� th� ��rr�Q�c "�� C�+��Q �1�� uil��nc� �t 1�4� Ri+�� Str€��t. �oi�'� Cy+c�c� �t�ca� h�� n+a� t�ovc�d to � nc�r� �ac��ion �� ' Rie� Stra�t in ��tt�Q Cat��d�, �n� �t�ke i� ]�o�►ki�s� �� otan�i�l reu�� oi' �hQ �a�i��. ��e ��crd thc� ��o��a�+�� o� ut�,��n� � �c��r��on o� �tika'� �and �o� rc?d+��c�opr�cant. ��s� nc�� taow that ia � low �rQ� an�l h�� b�rQn a�Qci�ia�r�k a� �ri�t a� �ra��l�. Karl hc�t�l di�eu�€�ec� dr�in�gQ p�a�p�e�� aitl� h�t�. C�ta �a�rc� h�t� � copy Q� th� �c�rm.�t��d usc�a in the �3-� �onQ ��eh giv�� h�r� �� o� c�ptfons ��r �aotcnti�l tQro�nt� �ar tho ��@. ��Q n�� th�t h� h�s �avc�r�l �e��n� ir�tc�r.e��e��i. �Csrl �eaol notaei �h�t ths��a migh� �a a n�w ��o�m d��inae��s �y�t�m in �he �reA w�ithin �.ivcz yc�srs, �nd C��At MN�O�' i� can�et��a�ing � �Cv�m &QwQr improvom�r�t or� Ri�e StrQc�t which m�y cor�c�ct �nd ,improvo tho d_r�in��e qu�3��: �,� i� ra3a�c,� to �� low aram on �he wast �icin oF his prop�rty. �tr. K�al g�v�a Mik� tho r�ame and �l�on� number oi Mi��?4T aFPi�iAls with wha�n ha ��n discus� the �iming and d�t�ils o� th� �otential storm dr�in��e systarn �rogr�m, though we talked about the possibility of redevelo�ing the site (and removal of the building). I� appears that Mike's next step � would be to find a tenant (or tenants) to continue to operatQ the property large as is. � � 3. Ross (829-3411) Dan Ross and P�u1 Dunn from th� Walsh members �f their consul�ant team and the pot�nti�1 ��nan�s. Thosm pra�ont Dick tdol��eld and Rick �d�u con�ul�ant�), Dick �Q�ry f��m C��CO. Companios �ara in witM th� r�prA��nt�tive� of o�a of inclu�ed: o� �Rtd, inc. (�r��fic ��1 l4n�ti� �nd ��aph�nl� lt�t�� r�� 'i"OY� �t U�. �ca�ry ��nd� ��a� 5undc� �ng�n��i��►, �hsay �rc��n��zt! ��1 #��+�� l�r►s �a� �hQ ��v��o��;�r�� o� �� Fol��d �di��ar� ar��eN �c�r��i�t� ot �2 ho�� i��:� �� a��ieh �h►�� cu��rttly� h��a� �u�eh�:�� r��+�s� �ta� ��. "i�� a��y r��q�� 1�� C��y �c� ��igt �n th� �u��:�a�� a� �h� �� a�+� +��r��c�� H�y► �� yQt� �c �bl� �� o��i�h �O��t ao��e�� C��9 �t��.��ae�. 'T`h� �a��n el�vo � ��c�� a�� i � ��n� 1 �t►�� g e�re�+� r �� c�u�+�� t � �� a� ��v � � � ��n �1�� $�►� ��oes �� f �e�� 1 �n�� at� �et� � �� n� �� l t� �h� u 1+� ��+� �� l�� &��v � � � �� i�l�e€� C�t►t�r, �`1�� r� aae�rl��,�� e�� a�ieh �� r��n� �a�i1�� o� F��v��l�aan �1��. �►�+� ��►� +�h� �r��a11 �1�� n��u�� r��t�� +�r� ��t� ��rvil��t� i��a�� r��r� T1�� ta�t�� l��a�n� ��.� ��,�0� �q. �`�. �►� ��r�� . �i�,�� . t�. c�t� ��1 �, +��ly� ��,�►�o ��, �+�. �"�t�l ��►r�� p��cax�� d��a�n�i�g �r� a�sh�� +thc� �N�� p€�� o� r��e, '�`�� d�I�i�n �� ,�i+� ��e��l ��+��c�l� +��r��+��b� �� i�� '�tv�l��a� t�i��, �� e+�� t�► �8�� a� ��. '��+��e� � �� o� � a f �n� f�� t�� r��t�� ir� €� ��i�, �� a+� ��f� �� r. ��o��t �a t�� "�� t�.�, �� r�� n�� +�� t�r� ��+�t�� n�i �rt�i+��t��i �h�lr� c�� r�� t�� , t�� i��u�� r�c�� ca� �� p��o��z�� c�tt��t-�� a�3��M r�� c� ��n+� o� �t�+� t��i� r�� f� �� f�� 1��i� �+�n�i ��r� n��i�ort��) . t�� ri�a�e�d �N� ��s��il��t� �� t�� u�r�� n� ��a��o�� p�c�v�� in�� ` � �� s�� n�t �hrougt� ��k��. �t� ��c� �I��cu��l t�� 1+��r��nt �� lc�h� ��r and ��ghC aut ��c�� av��n� 1��tra��a� ��ll�r�� A,+��n�a� ��i �i�r+��i�� t��c��. h�r.l �� nd �i�. ��a1�E�� nc��d �►�� a�i��b�� ca� tl�i� �►o��t��t�� t��h w�ul�f �csn� to r�� i�vc� ��is� ��t �� o� �+�w�t��s�� t ��r�ie� �tr�� sn� Co�ar��y Ra��i �s� � 'Ti�� c��ri�� o� �t�� a�v�ss �3r�y� ��` l:� �� r � �� t+��nQ �►t ��is ac�+�� air�� innmadi�tesly contiguou� ta b�. i�� discu�a�d �Hc� h�t��ling t�� s��vi.cQ�, cir�ulati�n at ti�xc�a p�inc�pl� �c��g� pe�.nt�� d�a�eolc�pmont l�val�, �nd tr�n�iti�n of tho neigh�ac�rHoo�l ta tMe nortta, Th� �rc�poss�l wauld con�inua tt�o �0 toot aotb�ck �c�r parking �as previously established and required at the Pavillion � Plac� development) and th� continuation of the 100 foot setback to the buildings w�re contiguous to residential development. A portion of thQ �x�sting �avillion Plac� parkin� lot was propo�ed to bo r�mped, thereby providing direct �cc�ss to both levels o€ �z�villion P1�cQ. td� r�vi�w�d tho Procoss �nd thrQ�ho�ds �o� th� environm�nt�l ��sm�nt workshee�, indirect saur�Q �ecmit, �nd ��5. �h�y prajact timi�� o� thQ �pplic�tfon for tho Qn� oP �avambar, pen�i�g c�mplation oP tt�o 8ddition�l tr��ic an��y�i�, dr8in�gQ �t�di��, maa��nga �ith Y�tE�00T �nd ��m�Qy County �nd ��Q na�ghbor�� Cr�ig ��ldron �ugg��tQd �n �nfe�� rav�� ith th� C�un�il at � �ar.� �Q�a�an �s �t rQl�ta� ta C��y in�a�va��n� �n� ov��ll cen�Q�t�. W� c�c�ph�►��r� our ��nci��l eo��n c.�ith rQ��act t� t�te aaal fa�� of �h+� aro� ��tr��rte�a�, �n� �tf�� ►�� : f ��fo�n �f �d+��u�cg+ oi` t�� t �,c ��e�li�l�� ear��t��e�o "�t�� c��ira� �a �ean�inuQ +�l�e ��r�+�Io� �� rc�di��e�l �l�a�� r�� r��r�� i�tf� re��a+�t�c ��n�l��+ �rn�� r��i 1�� 5 #� ��s�� th� �ala�r�€� a��lv�. �t• ��3t��i ��t9� ��33a1-�'�i�� v� i��►�►�� t� ��i��k �ar� w�� t��t��►��, ��v�lo�x��o�t �r��►1�� rt�1e �� i�� a��r� fi� �o d��u�� ir i��v�ll� �t�►r� �� t�� t�ac�� e�� 'c�tsr��+� �8��! i� c�� ns�11 %��. �°h�� t�� i� t �+�� i��e�� a�� r�� o� �r�� t�� a�� bo��t� r�� e�� tt�� r+��i1 +�+�r�� a��e �� o��e.� ��c�� }� �� +� ira ��. `i�� t�� i�� e��a�� r� ��s�� I��1�� a��t�� r�� i�� a��ir�� +�� 6�� ;A ��1��6.�� 1�� p�l tt �� +�� vr �� . �r+�� 6�� ca� �H� a�•��' �� 1�� a��o�. a�� n �� s� ��r�� o� �i�� t��e��. �� i�� a� �� _+�� +�� +��ilc�� o�� a��t �1��► �h� ��t�� 1�.�� h�� r�ro�� +��a�� ih� �+��°�� b��s� ��e �+��-�� +� �� $�� a��h tl�� t��r�� od �t�� B��t�°� �t�t�� r�� e� �� 1�� o��}� ��c�� att� ��►, ��"��"', �►�� h��l �� +��.�t t�� +�� t�.�� , %��t��t� �r��t� �8�� ;�' ��+�� ,��n� �� €��e �� t �t�� r��h��ti �� u� �1�� °�� f� �� a�.��n�l �� p��s��1 ��►��t �y �ia� �� r► ��`�. �'1�� I �� y� ar�� u��u� ic�p��i�� 1�� +�t� E�€� �+� �� f��t� �t��c�ri �� r�� t�� .�� .;�� c�� r��l� ��► � ��r►� �k�� ia��a�n�:��i�r� �� ti�+� p+�� +�rrl�� 1 ��t�is� �t��i� t��i� �f��!1�� }��+�a+i�t��l�) , {afiE� r�3ii��4�r�� fi� �t�a�� l��t �� ur�d��l��c� i�r�� or�n�� (��a Ma��atz��n} a�c�u�:� nca� �o �lo�ng a��t� :�::t� ��:��:�� :�� EY�� v�� +c��i�i��i 4i�i��s�aa ��id�c�s�� a. ��c�� , k�� t��t it �r��l� ��r �� he� r�s�►�l� ��ar°ave� �l�e ��v��o��e�� l��n ��p�a��d ��r �u��ar hin�� fhi�t� the� ��ky � Rocoe�o ��9��1� w�t1 �►�� c�r�Q �a ir��►�r��n�t. �u,�ldir�� c�rm�� wQ�c� �hc�n �►p��avc�ci �c�r th� �a�o�ao��c� �h�r�gQ�, w�th �i�r� � C� • understanding that they will pursue the redevelopment of the site, and the joint improvements to nutsonccess on the westerly side of the properties owned by Mr. K 5, Roth (635-5481) Derick Roth is a purchasing agent with UNISYS, and works in Roseville. He is currently taking a graduate course in "Venture Capital and Commercial Finance" from to ' explore aBA potenti�l programo He has an assignment a financial analysisand Rthe redevelopment in Roseville including lannin Jopke and Karl Keel revaide himh ine his nunders anding.g He was development process to eciative of their input. very appr 6. Theisen (483-5648) Vern Theisen owns a single family residence south of Woodhill and He proposes north of the pond, betwee�heebacknofnhisahouserwhich would place a 14x16 foot addition on the south end of the addition within �ul ti ns f(bei g morehthanl5 protected by the shoreline zoning reg acres). We reviewed the process and for shoreline perm t lwhich and concluded that he should apply a eared to be reasonable in view th edse of fthe high water PP required 75 f�na.Se Vern hei nh was� accompanied by Bill Hanson line of the p who is the propased builder for the project. • s � � :� 2� 3'� 4� 5'� 6'� 7�' 8� 9'� 10 � II � 12 �) 13 %� 14 7 15 � 16 ,�:� A � B � C �,b D �i�0 E � F uss G � H � I rwo J 19t0 K ,.� � � ;� 2'� 3�� 4 � ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANI�IIt�G OFFICE H011RS t t��.r�� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW S UBAN ��- �� - ��- . �► 17 �� 18 � 19 �� 20 '� 12 � 13 :� 14 :� 15 :� If � I7 �� 18z � 19 '� 20 =I �'L�f� A � B lseo D . Zt�O :� (� �F [ f ,c�c G � H � fl . ro�o J {s:n K ,.� :� ...o C� � � November 7, 1988 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, October 26, 1988 1. Capan (488-8830) Frank Capan Jr. runs a company calsear hylightse foreadvertising renting inflatable balloons and promotion purposes. He has 35 �b�ll ens port blee searche 1 ght $200.00 per day and also has f beams powered by 20 KW diesel generators. His principal customers in Roseville to dCom anaVand H ghlandy McCarthy Oldsmobile, Pier Imports, Best Buy p Y He has been having difficulties Wiehuseeofuthelballoons1aHowevern the Metropolitan area regarding th regulations a�low a grand opening or a major event with balloons once per year. He is inquiring whether that could be changed to one per month or something in between. He is wondering �ah�:ther there might be special provisions for car dealers. We responded that we felt it would be unw�hatt�our n�'i te t isy to e]c�ep �the for special treatment and community as aesthetically desirable, and that we w�sted�thatnwe about the traffic a.mpact in some instances. We sugg as consultants would not recommend increase frequency, thouqh he felt this was important enoug n,cil �tattention the Ci y r Manager address a letter to the Cou , requesting such changes they might think reasonable. 2. Pede�son (483-3695) Elizabeth Pederson whase maiden nameli es aloneetshe s al wi dow) Roseville all her life and currently almost directly east of the City Hall, across from Lexington Avenue. Her house is behind anoi her Sheuwas nquix�ing aboutWthe would be the extension of Churchi potential use of her land, which we noted to be high density multi family housing in accordance with the comprehensive plan. She said she has had seve�al pWe�su ested that at� suchstime purchasing of her land recently, gg as she desires to do so than that might be appropriate in as much as ultimately someone would like to put all the property together for a maj or redevelopment of the lae d e a��es ta�l� e�hebOCity ays We which this had been done in oth p suggested that �he could return far talks with the staff at any time that she would like, and tha ie reuse of her nland�andlothers to potential investars the possib around it. r 3. McClure (541-1000) � John McClure and Peter Carlson were in from the Woodbridge Company along with Dan Lutenberger, of Barton-Aschmann and Linda Fischer from the Larkin-Hoffman law firm. First, they brought a cut of the air conditioning and heating equipment to go on top of the new NSP building which they noted would measure about 25 feet long by 7'3" wide, by 4'11" high. This equipment is on the roof where the parapet is 3 feet high. We noted, too, that the equipment is a rectilinear box, and would appear not to be an aesthetic problem placed on top of the building like they propose. We discussed further the movement of NSP to the site with their "customer business operation". Craig Waldron reviewed with them the l�R moves to be made relating to the announcement of NS P's est�blishment of this fiv� state regional customer relations structure. We went on to discuss the potential process of revising the southerly portion of the PUD ta include larger sca]�e office buildings from up to 6 and 10 floor structures (one of each) plus a potenti�l 150 room hotel. The very preliminary layout they showed us indicated a ramp contiguous to most of the frontage on Cleveland in this area of the site. They suggested that the facade could have some serious effeet on the development easterly of Cleveland and that in fact might someday be their development. We agreed that an amended PUD would be appropriate and that the timing on that would dep�nd largely on them. We related perhaps � that more detail could �e providFd (when one of these uses i� specific' Twin Lake Land use plan). Craig Waldron reviewed with them potential changes in the develo�ament agreement, and we agreed that likely a new EAW would not be needed based on the square footage of the "increase01 and the square footagee The indirect source permit would provide the needed information. Karl Keel noted that drainage and utilities system might not change greatly in as much as the impervious soils wo�ald likely remain fairly constant if future �amps were to occupy space no larger than the previously laid out surface parking. Tr�e bottom line is that there will likely be an amendment to the PUD indicating more intensive higher value development becau�>e of the attraction they are fYnding to potential users to this very fine frontage on 35W. 4. Daire (384-6963) North �iamline, which is on a very deep lot, a portion of which juts into the park surrounding. Jim is a planner for Minneapolis and purchased this land in 1968. He has a long gravel driveway which goes through this lovely wooded site, at the end of which he has a home (occupied by seven children) with a single car garage with a larg� brick courtyard in front of it. He proposes to add a 2-1/2 car garage (24 ft. by 28 ft.) for vehicles and storage. He notes that he is in dire need of � storage space because the house has no basement but is tucked into the hillside with a series of levels which includes a single car garage (a tuck under) and the remainder of the space is • living space. He has a price of $3960 to asphalt his driveway, which he cannot afford to do if he builds the garage as well. In as much as he is not expanding the house or the existing garage, we suggested that the driveway would not have to be asphalt at this time. The asphalt from the street into the required 20 feet when the street is improved. Mr. Keel noted that maybe�it would be fairly soon. He also agreed to dedicate a ten foot wide easement on his side of Hamline and because he would like to encourage the development of a foot path on his side of Hamline Avenue. He will provide the dedication and the agreement in writing and we will issue a permit for the construction of the garage. 5. Kringel (639-6350) Chris Kringle was in to discuss the potential redevelopment of the land that he purchased which was the subj ect of a pool hall over on Rice Street. The building is the old Bona�nza Steak House plus the building to the south which is rented by Steve Zies. He notes that there is a 2-1/2 year lease with Mr. Zies and in the future he would like to cunsider a car agency for the site. We reviewed the conditions that were attached to this City Council recent approval of division of the land. We suggested that these conditions be carried out which include the rebuilding af the fence on the west side, curbing of the driveways, and aleaning up af the southerly portion of the property. In as much as the car • agency requires special use permit which expires in six months, we suggested that he not pursue such use as such time as it is more eminent. We suggested that he hire a good architect, consider the changes in the design of the building which he discussed with us based on some very preliminary drawings he had done. 6. Robinson (475-OQIO) Fa�rell Robinson is with Strygar-Roscoe and Fausch, traffic cunsultants who are doing work on the proposed new Tanurb site at the southwest corner of County Road 82 and Fairview (Control Data site). He is doing a traffic study relating to this development, and he is si.mply inquiring from the City as to additional influence tk�at he might consider. Karl Keel suggested adding the Barton-Aschmann informa�ion relating to the Roseville study, and �he Twin Lakes study. W� suggested that the numbers that were developed by Short Elliott Hendrickson on the County Road B2 extension could aisa b� a factor. We talked about the potential location for access and egress, and expressed our concern regarding the proposal of the current site plan to have a fast food with drive through services at the southeast corner o� the site. The site plan is sti11 very preliminary, and they will be back to review with the staff the architects revised plans and the results of their studies. � 7. Lux (349-8906) • Bob Lux and Dan Hunt from Coldwell Banker were in to discuss the possibilities of redeveloping some of the land in the vicinity of the southeast quadrant of Snelling and County Roac C. This is the land enveloped by SNELLING CURVE. We discussed the access problems, soil conditions, and Karl related the City�s need for increased storm water capacity in this area much of which is owned by the City. It appeared that the potential for this land for any high density residential would be extremely limited though the land is shown for medium density housing (perha.ps townhouses) inside SNELLING CURVE where we know soil conditions to be difficult. He discussed other areas in the City where development might occur in accordance with the comprehensive plan. Mr. Lux is from the residential division of Trammel Crow, and are interested in the City for potential development where they feel the market is very strong. � � � I � 2� 3� 4� 5 � A � B � C :,.� D Fip E � F usz G � H :iso � auo J � K �.� � I � 2 • � 3 �� 4 � RosEvi«E MINNESOTA PLANNlNG OFFICE HOl1RS � �' ��D• �� DAHLGREN SHAHDLOW S UBAN � • 6� 7=� 8� 9 � 10 � il � 12 --��u t3 M� 14 � t5 6 16 =!7 � 18 �; f9 "-�'� 20 '9 .. .� . ,� �, ,. . . . _. �- ��'�... �.._� � 12 �. 13 i; 14 :" 15 ?� 16 � 17 $' 18s � 19 � 20 � �� 1M� • � � � September 29, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren Sti`BJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, September 27, 1988 1. Peterson (720-3038) Gene P�terson was back with his son Randy and Bill Severs of Construction 70, to discuss his proposed develogment for a Car-X Muffler Shop to be located at the northeast �orner of Snelling and County Road B. This site is formerly occupied by �inclair Service s�ation. Mr. Peterson had pr�viously informed us that h� had purcha�ed the Sinclair site, and intended now to discuss the redevelopment nf the total corner with the new owners of the Roseville Car Wash who is Dick Page �rom the Wave Car Wash organiza�ion. I�e indicated that hQ had discussed these concep�s with Mr. Page and that they were not interested in pursuinq this approach. Yau w��,ll recall that previously plans had been prepared by iCKE Architects lay Mr. P�t�rson's request ind�cating th� red�v�2opm�n`� af the land involving th� car wash, the Sinclair st�tion, an�d tha � sm�l�. offiG� build�ng to the north owned by Todd Young. Th� incontive, yau will rc�member, to r�dav�lop in this corner ir�vc�lves th�s relaes�s o� the sQrvicQ road land, and k�Q �re�outing o� the tr��ic to the we�t sid� of ti�e c�ar wta�h whLeh noa� ��nc�ion� �s t�a �riv�tQ �ntranc� ta which the�s� bu��r�e�g�ca� h�vQ ara ��sement running from eounty� Road B to Commerc� Street. Bas�d on this datscour�gi�g :rac€�ptioro (as repor��d by Mr. P�tergon) hQ p�oposes now t�o sim��y re�ov�l�ap the Sincl�ir sit� with A naw structur� �►ith G b�y� on a�mall o�Pice �or �a mu��l�r re��air. Thc� �rcablam hQre is �M�t tt�is bui�d��g would requ�rQ 22 ��rking sp�cos �nd �he �ito is �o sm�ll that only 16 sp�cos c�an ba pravidod if tho �e�ric�� sokback �oquir@ment� ar� mo�. Thc� sfta is p�rhaps �oo sn�e�l �or this o�eration, though h� M�� the �ight tca proc�ed with a v�ri�t�ce apPlication i� he so d�sir�s. Or►co � n�w k�ui�r�ing is buil� on thc� Sincl�air sit�, the oppor��ani�y �or r�dlevelopir�g tM� Ara� will ba � loss. t,ie s�gg�st th�t it �rould be in thm City's ir�tear@st �o �u�-�uo tY�e r�routing of tha tr�ag�i� in � mor� �ppro�riat� mannar tha�� is now thc� case. WM�ther old bualdings ar� to�n dvwra or redevoloped now ar not, w� sUggast that the City �ak� th� l�ad in �ur�uing rodove�lopment op�ions. R�e suggest�d �h�t �rith rcaspect to the aarious proposals that Mr. Peterson give us dat� regarding the r:xfsting 17 Car-x statiQns in the metropolitan area as their parki�r� ,�eeds. t�o sugqested that th3s is perl�aps the best evi�Qr.��:c of �ha real parking � requirements �t such � racility. 2. Matson (481-8070) � Berry Matson is with Welch Companies, awners of a number of industrial buildings in Roseville. He recently replaced a wooden sign that was blown down in the storm on the west side of one of their structures north of County Road C2, on the east side of Cleveland Avenue. He was in to s�e Gardy Beseth about a building permit, which was not issued because the sign was proposed to be place� 31 ft. from the curb. The sign was comple�ed without a permit� and appears to �e app�oximateYy 10 ft. from the public riqht oi way. The sign is bu�lt of masonry (concrete block) consisting of a wall 8 ft. tall and 14 �t. long. This produces an area of 112 sq. ft. where�� a 100 s�. ft pylan sign 25 ft. high is aYlowed. Tt appeared that the �nl� solution at this point is to apply for a vari�nce. Th� ground sign is in amongst a graup of trQa�. We hav� �ot �nspected th� site and the sign may or ma� nnt be appropri��Q as Iocat�d. 3. O'M��ra (633-02�6) �arry O'��ra w�s in with e�ra� Tan�ings o� �Qrrill �ynch RQAl�y, to reviaw th�ir �i�e �nd building pl�ns �or thQ complotian o� tt�a four �nit bui�din�� origin�lly ap�roved �ar �h� 4rigin�l �ou�h o� th� �r�ilar court on thQ w�st �id� o� ��ington Auanu�. �hia plan now looks vary goad fQaturing �nc� s�o�,► town hou��s witri a pub1�4 strQet to ibQ built an tha �xieting ric�ht o� �r�y of R+�sopl�ce. ��to rc�vi,Qw�ri som�a o�' thQ d+�ta�� a�' t�hQ pl�n� � including �ropar �urnaround �o� �tt�e Eiro tcuck on th� cnd o� �ha c�l-do-s�c (p�rCia].l�y dQd�ca�Qd� , g��dos t�or +�hc� s�c��t �t L,c�xington Cnot toa �taQp� witM drivQwey�, whQt��r �urbing �s nQce�ssary, �nd �hQ �Q+t b�c�� on the� �autt� ��rs�per�+�y l��r� no�� thca b�cky��d� a� +t�c� conti�uou� �it�c�lca P�r�i.ly hflt��. t��r. O"P�ta�r� �til� gaC �tt�e �Qr�sin�ng m��ari�l �tac�at�hc�r in��ud�ng � rc�visQd ��nd�cA�a pl�n �o� ��abr�i�:s�a� �,t tha t��ve�mb�� aQC.��r� o�` thc� I�l�nning Cor�m��ion ��c �n Ar�c�r��i�d �UU �nd �xa�� im��e�y p�1�t � �. '�ur�� (�s��-o��) �'om �nd �Iiry�r�i� T�r�� livc� �t tha �outh��t ��rr�e�r ca� �urk� nn� ��redy� which i� nc�ar tha wc�� idc: �� thQ I�xi�c��an ��e�Qa� ��to. �"h��r ��ar�, in to re�viQw th� propo�ad com��mi�� l�n �c�r tt�� L,��¢ingto� Sci�ool �it� �s �n�o�m�i�� ravia�eec9 by Ml�. }��u�%old a� �h� ind�pQndant �chooi di�tric�, �nci r.�pr��e�nt��iv�� a� tt�c� Ci��v. Tlhey �c��me� to b� i� g�sner�l �c��Q�mc�r�+� o� �h� �Qr+��pt, b� � inc�uirQd aVout thc� f�a�ik�i��ty o� m�kin� the p�r1� �l��a}�� n kh� w�gt�rly aidc� ot �a�rk �o �►� to �n�].ud� the� b�ll ��.eld �� it �xi�C:� �r��i ros3u�in� ki�� de��h o� Cho ��rk (nogth-�outt�) , thi� wauld in ��ct re�l��ea �ho ara� o� tha l�nd to bo zoncad m�al�i- �amily houafu�g by �p�aroxim�tely �al� an �cra, �ncl i�cra��a �.hc� �re� o� l�fl� �.o �e �Qr��d fer ��.��in��s by t�o snma amount � �1�� ark �rould still nQt �ppxoxim�to ��cr��. TNis c�niigur�tion i� workabl� i� it is dasirQd to m�int�in €�d�quat� �r�� for tl�� xisting k��].1 �i�ld. 'rhQy �ddad businass zon@ l�►r�d cauld bQ � zon�� H-1 �nd porhaps �cx�oss the intersec�i�n ��.th �urk. �;'hi.s park configurati4n is � Kaufhold with the Pos arrangement could be hearing as an option. � � 5. Vanasse in fact the way it t Office plan. We considered at the was proposed by Mr. suggested that this Planning Commission Leonard Vanasse was in with his nephew Richard Vana�se to xeview a preliminary plan for the oxpansion of ABF �Truc}c Terminal at th� south east corner of C1evQland and Iona Lano. Tho development plan confa�tns to all or�dinanc� reqv�rement� as ira s�tback�, curbing, paving oF pa�rleing areas. The buildinc� would b� expanded with the ssma maz�ri�ls �� thc� o�iginal construction (PQrsonalizod �tc�el). Tha land is zon�d I-2 ancl a spacial use permit for a truck terrminal h�s baen �r�viouBly i�sued. �i�e �ddition wiil br� 90xG0 ft. ThQ �ep�ialt ara�r wi11 bc expand�d lc�avinq ap�rox�ma��ly lq0 f�. l��t �tndovglo�ed west�rly o� th� righ� o� way ��om 1��. �icige Road. Wo r�commAndocl tha� h��ca� � prof�a��,fon�� Qn�in�� to handla khA dr�i��Q p�an� a�d1 th€�t �h�y �ur�u� det�ils with �h� as�l��ance o� thc� c�ng�nQo�° �n RosQv�� nd th� R�cQ Cre�crk w�,t�r �Qo�lc�. f. 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DAHLGREN SHARQIOW i UdAM � � � � r - 1.• September 30, 1988 � '�O: Jim Andre F'KOM : SU t3►7 EC'T : 1. �o�tt ( �ic�ward Dahl�ren PIJINPJING 4�FIC�: NQU�t�, Sep'�ember 21, 1�68 Mo��n P��t i� a� 1��1 mana�ger �or '�anurb r�ho w�rs in with Jim D�lh�e�g, �an �reh�te�t ��om 1CKE, �o di�eus� �fia�r remodoling of thQ ciump�te� c�nclosurQ on �tha north �nd �Ast side o� th� ��hc��nn' � i�l�� aho��nc� �e�ntQr, �nd �heix ��f�rts to vital iz� �nc# ca�pleta �hc� l��d��inr� o�r� thQ ne�rth �idc� o� th� cQnter. iw�� Qv��a��! s d�c�a��nc� o� �he� ci�mp�Cs�r c�nclo�urc�� which ��ou�d ��v�c�� p�►r��r� �� i g�� c�� o� �,i�k up a� ths� e3ump��ter, and ��na�:l�� g�t� t`o� ��r�o�� gs�r�Inc� aGc�� o �h� dumpstc�r, "C'hay a��il �� l��c� �� e� �n�l� �+� �hQ ��u�c�� wil� bea �blc� +�o pick �he�a� ups R�r��n��y �n�� l��w� been �c��►inc� t�� u�i�ster� at an ��n�l� ou��c� o� tN�a �n�l��ui�s�g �ri��ch �rQrc� d��,fc��rocl � littla �oo ��►1 � , � ��n� ��n�t, � 1�►nd�� +�h�tQ�t �o�a w��O th+�m �t�d �t�cy had �a�c��el�ed � ��cl ��u�}* u� �P�e� l�t�t��c��n� e�r► �fi�� i�Q, �'hey �i�ii t�� in�g ��r��Q�� s ��an ��aw�r,c� r�t�ich t��Q� �nd �l�rr'�� +��11 �� c�p�� nd ��A�►a��d ��a �mclud� a� i�r,i��on ��. �'�� p�o�o�� t �t�l� ��►��ri�l l�� g �h� City �� F�i�� o��i�+� �o� c�n�idar��icrn �sy +the C��n��l �t i�� 0��9� n��t�+� ��in� �� l�t�� ta t�� ,i��u�� s�ha� ��1 �€;� p�� o� � �1�ild �� c�rr�€��. � �. �t�� _��i� @��rk t�tu�i��r�ki a�� i� �ai�� t �� roa� t1�e ��ac2g�� P��c�r �'��Q ��i4! F�� s�i �� ai'��.�; ��s��Q�s4�� i ��4 �� v�i�� t��ir ��nA�� 1�� r t�� rQ��v��c��ent o� �hQ ��n=�� o�+�Qe! bg� �in '�'��p�a. �'P�c� p�+��o�� in�lu�le�d �he g��t��r�c� ��,R��e��, �ei wtt��h ��pe��l u�Q ��rmit w�� c�arti�ac� �ib�ut � j�� r�� h�l � �c��. ��t� ne��d �h�t tt��.� ��€� �a�t�r�uQ� t� ��y p��t� a� �1� �� u��d c�arb�c�� t�u�Dc� o� t�� ont of th� �4�.tl�ir�g. ia� au�e��$��c� �I�st it�,i� u�c� nat R�Q �r►elu�e� in A rtQw ��v��o�amc�n� �r��c��l. L+�he� us�s �n tt�� es�l ��?t� �� i�es �ns� cQ�s�.r.uetion y�rd �or �c�la�r �u�l�e�r�, �n�. i�e� notnd �h�t ti�i� y��d wa`�ld r��uire ��t. t�igi� �onczr�g or o��c�u� ��ncing, �nd thi�s would h�v� to b� i��ilt ou� o� 2" m��c��ial. �VQ discu��ed +�hc� lo��ian c�� thc� g�s pum�a� wtaich ��o��d k�� a�rt o� th� Cle�n-c� Truck opc�r�tion. The�e «ould a��o b� � budgat r�nt-�-truck op��tion ir� tt�e front �s well as offices for a Realty Company. The building would be � FABCON construction (full height precast contract panels with raked surface). We reviewed setback re curbin p quirements, landscaping, g, and rocedures. A special use permit would be required for the truck rental, a SUP for a planned unit development (if there are two buildings on the site) and a variance to parking setback if it is established 20 ft. rather than the 40 ft. required in the front of the building. We emphasized the City�s desire for a qualiLy construction project. 3. Nikolai (379-5367) Erick Nikolai runs a company c�lled Social Service Network which is an employment agency for persons working in the health care (particularly the elderly) field. He desires to establish a group home in Roseville for 6 to 8 seniors, praviding care, less intensive than normally found in a nursin home. closely with the State Department of Heal h people regard ng kthe regulations and procedures. Rick Jopke and we inform�d him that operating such a home is allowed as a"group home" in Minnesota Communities including Roseville, and that no special permit would be required, other than conformance to the state laws applicable. He noted some interes�ing figurea tha� by the year 2000, 2/3 of our population i.n this country will be over 55 and the number of persons over 55 is increasing each year by 12-14�. . 4. Gerstner (339-4200j Tom Gerstner was in with Chuck DuFresne and Tom's broth�r Steve who is an enginee r. They reviewed the developm�nt of prelimi,nary designs of a new Ediria Realty office building at the northwest corn�r extension of Lincoln Dr°ive and the e�ctension of Terrace Drive. This is the north end of the old Glendenning site where a firm was constructed as part oF a shor�line permit for the parking of trucks on the west end of the site. This p�rmit was approved in 1979. We later checked with David Carischt, landscape architects office who did the design, Th� berm and planting are still in place and we suggest that they revise their site plans as to retain the berm and seek a new shoreline zonin the berm as was previously established fo� t u k par kingng behind They agreed to revise the plan, which would later present it to the City staff indicating approximately a 22,000 sq, ft, building with 3 floors and the required 110 parking spac�s, Reviewing the drainage proposal, it was noted that the required ponding was being squeezed in at three dif�erent parts of the site and the shopping center site to the south. that a common pond be developed on the westerlyIportion gofSthe • Edina Realty site, and that this land be sold to the City and be added to the park as is currently proposed in the comprehensive plan for this area (part of the Twin Lakes planning project). • Craig Waldron reviewed with Mr. DuFresne the financial aspects of this concept, and was agreed that this upproach would benefit properties being assessed for drainage services. Mr. DuFresne suggested the possibility that they might build the pond on the property, and then sell to the City on some reasonable basis. It was agreed that this approach would likely be best in as much as the retention of the berm on the westerly side of the site (where the pond would be) would leave relatively little land for development. As a ponding area and park it would be in accordance with the comprehensive plan amendment and would constitute an asset to the ar�a. 5. Nordstrom (541-1000) Sue Nordstrom, and Peter Carlson, partners in Woodbridge Development Corp. were in to review the concept of the development ot the far northerly portion of the site. They propose a 2 story office building for a single user of 44,000 sq. ft. on 5.5 acres, leaving 1.52 acres left to the southwest where the line runs through a drainage pond. It was suggested and agreed upon by the staff that this adjustment would be appropriate without going back through public hearing before the Planning Commission and Council, and that the remaining 5.2 acre site could be incorporated into the plat as another of the lots available for development. � 6. Bissenette (895-9422) Bill Hissenette and Patrick Fischer were in with Jon Pope, architect, to review a very preliminary concept of a Senior Citizens housing pxoposal on the Busse property north of Larpenteur. They are contemplating the idea of building 35 units of single story attached senior citizens housing. These units vary in scale from 728 sq. ft. to 870 sq. ft� for one and two bedroom units with iClltdl at $425.00 for the one bedroom units and $525.00 for the two bedroom units. We noted the City's desire for a variety of housing types, and the encouragement of housinq over business development concept of the type of housing they were c4ntempla�ing. We suggested some design changes in terms of �he site plan for their consideration. They will review further details and if the property is available to Mr. Busse, they will proceed with further examination of the deveYopment potential. Tk�ey noted that this type of development is possible only with some assistance, which can be discussed further if they proceed with more details. 7. Hanson ( ) Gordy Hanson and George weinman, representing Roseville Lutheran Church were in to meet with Paul Olson, City Park Superintendent, and Bob Bierscheid, the City's Park and Recreation Director, and � the staff to discuss the long range plan to expand the church site and for this church to provide property for the park ,. ► .. _ , �.. expansion to compensate. Th�y have purchased the Suder site of 1.29 acres which is a long strip extending out to Lexington O Avenue. The purpose of the meeting was to review the intent and procedures for accomplishing expansion of the church site, wherein the church would ultimately purchase the Robert Hauck property. The property has been appraised but no definite price has been agreed upon. The Hauck's apparently wish to remain in the house for an unspecified time, but note that they will sell to the church when they are ready to sell. We agreed that the appropriate thing to do with the Suder house would be to tear it down, and to offer the land to the City on the interim time period for City use and maintenance for a dollar a year. We agree that it is reasonable for the church to pursue this expansion palicy with the understanding that the City park will not become smaller, and that the church will pay for the movement of the facilities expense. We agreed that a letter of intent could be prepared outlining these concepts. Mr. Berscheid suggested that they prepare preliminary drawings as to the location of the facilities, to be used as a basis for determining approximate costs. 8. Pastorius (633-6600) Dan Pastorius is with Trapp Realty, and was in to discuss ultimate use of the old service station site at the northeast corner of Old Highway 8 and County Road C2. We informed him of the extent that the existing zoning exists, and the problems of • the site relating to its narrow configuration. We reviewed the past concerns of the neighborhood as brought out in a recent public hearing where an attempt was made to rezone the land for business purposes. We suggest that more efforts be made to combine this property with the property to the north, and that a multi-family housing project be considered. We noted that if it is a good project, well conceived, that the City's policy may provide for some assistance. They claim that the value of the land is such that they cannot afiord to build multi-family housing. 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Wier (541-1000) September 14, 1988 Dave Wier was in with John McClure at our request to review briefly what he is doing on his side of Cleveland Avenue, and how it might relate to the Twin Lakes redeWeloP eviewed�pthelsgeneral East side of Cleveland Avenue• the East West road concept, background to the Twin Lakes study, proposed revised interchange at 35W and County Road C, and the concerns of some of the truckers in the area. Dave noted that they have some significant potential on the Southerly portion of the site that may involve a very large user with the resultant higher density of office buildings and a greater height. We discussed these potentials with him previous�.yperhaps he i.r► °a comments that such potential is more eminent, matter of weeks. We noted, too, that the ordinance does not limit height in the B4 district (it i.s zoned B-4) nor is there a maximum floor ratio, and that the City in general encourages more intensive, efficient use of the land. He is concerned with the appearance and future use ofe tis considerable potential there Cleveland, and feels that ther in the not �too distant ft�ture. He did not want to comment on specific users whom he has been negotiating, but in his opinion, things look positive. We aqreed that we would keep in close touch in as much �s iF t ed for �fast tracking oflapprovals development, there may be a ne to the extent that can be done. 2. Jaeger (633-3521) Jack Jaeger was in with Gene Sc�nultz, his builder, with whom we have spoken last week regarding there having expanded a existing house on his lot which is located 6 feet from the rear property line. In �977, Mr. Jaeger had Yeceived a variance to build a n�w garage iorward of this small house on his lot, and a condition of that variance was that a new house would be built up near thA front of the lot (closer to the street than the new garage). further condition was that the existinq garage and the old small house on the rear lot would be to ouse�WnBoth the xisti gphouse was �.ssued to expand the ex�.sting h and the addition are "slab on e n dto • move the tnew addition ltona further variances would have � new basement site on th� forward part of the lot. This solution has proven unfeasible for o� ra �?, �ore variancee forswhi he he �has proceeded with a request f received the written approval of the effected neighbors. It appears then a� aa c he�h ch wi11� allow theutcompletion of cthe � this minor v remodeling and addition currently underway. 3. Simons (292-1123) Mike Simons is with Reigsthedt and Associates Designers who is in with Robert Mausfield who is with Horizon Development Company. They proposed the construction of a new office building on the site immediately south of the Roseville Professional Building . This lot is 89.38 feet by 164 feet, and was zoned B1 probably seven or eight years ago for the purpose af adding parking to the Roseville Professional Building site. That parking was never added, and they now propose to build a small one story office building on the site. The building would be 51X69, woul� have parking spaces for 17 cars which would be slightly short of the requirement. We suggest that the building be adjusted to con�orm to the parking requi a di ation Wrequirem nts.ew�This portion cof screening, and street Hamline Avenue requires a 99 ft. right of way, thus should be dedicated an additional 6-1/2 feet, increasing the dedication from this side of the street to the sect�on line from 43 ft �o 49.5 ft. We noted that if this squeezes the development so that it cannot work, that they have the option of applyin� for a� variance, or adjustin �ill review his propo altwithetheirtclient yar� required. They and consider the options. We ana° thatedtheyt houldi prep re wth� � be subject to staff review, appropriate plans (grading, landsc�pinq, utilities, etc.) for staff review. 4. Peterson ( ) G�ne Peterson was in with his son, Randy, and Bill Save�s (Builder) and eurt Krause to i�form us that th�y had purchased the old Sinclair site at the Northeas� corn�x c�� Cou�ty Road � and Snelling. We reviewed the drawing they ha�d KIf� do, which showed the agr�ed upon sol�tion th�t might be con�templat�d in el imin�ting the s�rvice St urant� to hth�W n rthlY andd th� �Targ@t property, the Perk�.ns R� site. Mr. Peterson noted that tl�ey had just b�en ingormed that the cax wash had been sold to the Wave C�r Wash p�apl� �nd may plan to meet with them regarding their �nt�rest in possibly redeveloping th� site in aecordance with tt�is plan. Mr. Petm1�son suggests that this could b� done without tax incr�men� financing� though in our opinion that may be very di�ficu1t because of tt�e high land valu� costs ans � i o�en�shv�e ��r ��ash nd the �off ice struc:�u�es both ln the ca building north of tk�e old service station. We also reviewed the proposal on their gart to build a Car-X Muf�ler Shop on the si.te as is. it appeared that such a proposal � wouia not meet the parking requirements. We informed Nlr. � ' . � Peterson regarding this concern. They are therefore going to try to roceed on the overall redevelopment plan and be back in touch p their progress. • with �s regarding 5, Karisch (541-1000) David L. Karisch is with Woodbridge lirscalelday acarewcenter on discuss their proposal to develop a fu he Woodbridge site on the ends of and �resch olers.1stThe t roximately 100 in€ants P buildinqs for app �t, We reviewed with square foo�age involved wor�ld be procedures for processing the him the criteria, requirements, special use permit for such a facility. 6. Stark (483-3233) Tom Stark �s op�rations manager of the fr°,omv GroupaWea �i�h him� North Cen�ral operation which toak ov�r �or th�ir was �ridg�t Kelly who is in charqe of th o� ar38ou�owns in tte� opQration which includa� serv�have 180 emp1QY@Q�� 0-80 of mot�opolitan arQa. �� O�°$ t�� which d��1 with th� matc.�i.�+l stor�g� tht� know if �it nwould be t�@ �2oB�v � 11 a 1�c�at ion . Thfly w�n�ed osaible �or thom to r�ca,�v� �ermi�s stbnr�s ir� h�uaro � insida P�i�ciplm roll� o� ct�b�Q and Pac�cas��l �Q�ig��d �n�I apprQUQd as th�i�r scrQon �er►cs� which w�s oric�ir�al�y � �r�� !or stc�rsgs af v�hiclas. r�vi�wc�d thcs ordinan�Q c�ci��i� which thc� ��eC��►� u$� ��rm�t �' wa r,� thA �pocit'i� pormi�. 'This p+�rm�C� wa� ��sued� �►ncl thQ wor�inc�� w�� f �ou�ss� d��ignQd and danQ oxcludad ou�door starac�e, ac�ulci '�a us�d �or �hc� �rfth th� inton�ion �t�at �h� l�uilding u��rta�� a� th� Ro�avill� ��ca� ��cili+��, ��d t�ot tNc h��R comk�inc��i 3� �o�munity gys��m �� h�� u�c1 •�� T�sod�� f ntc�ri�r Q�t�bl i�had �t��t �hQ ��h w inc� �� d thc �o�+�v i � 1 � gtorac�a for tho Eir�t �ouplc� yr��r a�r ��wou�dy �a ��r�u�r�d to 20�. �,r�� sy�tcsm �r�d in �ubsaqu�nt � gVe ��Qna �#�a�t ].5, Q0� sq. tt. i� �u�re�nt�,y ��d �ar €c�a��q�, w� � � ca y�� th� pe�rmi.t �nci �he ��ste�m�n� f�a� Gr�uP W whi�h wa� P �.�GorporA�od �ith ttaQ p�r�i�. ThQ ��t �� yi � will b� movc�d�o t aaco going to r�move �t�� cicoc�� tor�g � this ��►11 �s tt�a �n�a�aria7� is u�e�. 7. M�n�on (3�S3-2G�9) Chris tiartgon o� th� Con�Qr Companias �� i� �on�t�lt�nt�� C�ntc�r) and ��vQ Ka�t�i �� rConsRshm�nn, �r�inc� th� har�dl i�ng w�rc� in to reviQw th�ir laCas�t rQv��ion� ro9Qvi.r�u� �amm�n�� n� ng th� �xpan��n o� Rosodalc�, i3ASQd ar� p coneern�, Dave pr��QntQd � �ati��e� $��'��.�'�o�th�onhF'airviews �nd st�uthwestorly �cc��g to �� c�ntor �urth �� r�t,ains tho T�nters�ction prine�s�loin �� Th�.st��v�n�nt �c� tha also usQd on thc re�st of �ha �Gc p �North give� more stacki�g space on F'airvi�w, and rasults in ttac� second level ramp being at ctrade with the peripheral road system on the West side of the new Dayton's storee In other words, the � access off Fairview penetrating perpendicular to the parking area has been a abandoned. This significantly simplifies the solution, and makes the solution more aesthetically pleasing because the second level of the ramp wi11 be at grac�e as viewed from the Southwest. This new location also lines up with the proposed rampway �o the new shopping cer�ter now begnq designed to the West of RosovillQ (Southwest corn�er ag Fa.irview and County Rd. �2). Steve Gatlin t�nd Karl Keel both commer�t�d on the traf�ic solution and eatpressed concarn rQgarding ultim�tQ impact on thc F�irview interch�ango and oc�res� movom�nts �o thc� F�irvi�w �xit • Dava Koski no�ed th�t they �re going to ag�proach �lNDOT with tha �aneupt o�' ��epar�tca of � r��np �cc�s� simil�r tea th�t wh,�eh has ��c�n �pprovod �or Pa�d�r�l �#�d in�nr��tQ 3�� t Ridc�c�c�a1Q. �t ap�esra th�� conce��t a+o��d aQ hQlpic�l �n �� mu�h �t� i� s�ould cons��ier�bly racluce C�Q i�p��t �+� th� most u��d e�ntr�racr�, th�t k�aing ��a ��irvi��r �aut�►�►�stc��y �accc�� nc��ra�t t�ie D��++��n'� �to�ce � i�c na+�a� tli�t �rav��ion� �or 8 1c�t �u�n �aovc� �og +��+��r�� t��iw�c��a (m�C �he �c�ri�hc�rsl eo�d� m��r b� h�rip��, �nd cl��i�r► �� con��pt fo� ul�ira.�t� i�r��rov�ma�n� r��` �'�ir�.+�� +�c�u�ld 1�c� la��tw��nt� �o �h��t �h�n�� n b� c�i�eae�a� �a ��t u�ti�a�e�� o��. it �ic�h� �� wey► �€� ��+��r��► �� a� ��ul t, �l��t i��uc� �t�o�� i�� r��a� et�;� � ��+�h�� th�r� ic��ing �� unc��t�rr�in�d �nd u�rd��i��. �Ir. w�o�� .�� rz��c�� t�r�� ra��tr ��P�[�`�' �nd �t��f �� v��t,� �� c��af ��i:�� roe�� , '�'�he i r ��h��u � � �ar��+�1�►+t�� ea�n�tt u�t ic�t� nQ�c� �u�� tr c��+�a�,��i.�n c�: �t�� a �� t�il�+�y �car. C��e�� o� i��. ��r��+t�� ac�n �� a��► ��,�d �on��cu��io� ura�� a��h ��+��1 � � �� t� ��c�t't �� ry p�d� �� c��r��t� ��; � r�� a �. ��il�� 9��-��1� ��re�+� �� 1 �r�g �� r� ��a ��►i�rr th� q��t�Qn ea� �a��c1� ��a� �� r�� 0 4�i� �l�t �� r��y �n, �t�a� ��i��i��e��r�� h�� ` I.�k� ��r��o . �� . h�� l P�a�r►c� �t�rc�t��t� � � €� ��k �� F�z�� ou��ty �u�v�y�jr. �i��t� t1�� cr��c�� Ir. R��i��'€� ��r��a-�t�� Qrrs� �h�r ��k��o�e� �ncl �e�a�� t�c�og:i� �ow�� c� �� a�+t��r� F�� t�� t�a �t��a�r�et� �ic��a �� l�rtc� �c�� .�� t��a �� P �� k#�4�i�i7 �abd ��V ��4'�� i� • £�i e� ( M46:�d� Hil'�+ ViiOf A.Q ! ��i� 4i\n��T ♦ 4�tl�4+ l�r�d t� thc� ��t o� �i�c� �o�d�ray (��a�t�d ac� �t�� ►t�� , � ��r��) e i'F�c��+� ��rca��cr� m��u�c�� b��e�i Qn tt�e o�'i ��i�� r��ndc�r linc� whi�ti i� �h�a l�n�i �et�a��y awna� i�y Mr. �t�:�ling �r�c� t�� '��lt� C��'��inal ��iar�.iit�dc�a�� il�"Vti�%. �� 9;.a !;:i�'ct, ? ��:r� f�ia�!��t' i� a mo�ndc� l�ke�, ��d ��xo��rrs tizQ govarnme�nt e�wn� th�z l�and �ahci��: �� 1�};Q €�r►d l�nclowr�� ow�g it to thca mQand�� ir�e onl�. I� Ap�e�r� �h�� n tt�is ��a, �h��e p�rcQl� �►ro d�s��r�ctly �.�P�r�tQd � �y A cour��y ro�d� �nd tho�rgh thay m�y �m dQscr��ad in ��i�c�l� description, they are physically separate parcels on the ground. S Thus, in the contents of the original intents of the ordinance (plotting of any one single parcel) the largest separate area is 4.5 acres. Craig Waldron will review the concept with the City�s legal counsel. Staff has received an opinion from legal counsel that the street location makes no difference and thus the dedication requirement applies. 9. Wilson ( � St�ve Wilson was in briefly to review a proposal to provide a seconda�y accese to his mu1t� f��ily housing dev�lo�ment at the Northwest corner o� Highway 36 �nd Ric� Street. He's purchas�d tha �inglo fa�ily home dirsctly northw�st nf tha Country Kitchen �i�a, and di�ectly Wast oP the mu�ti-fa�ilX hous�ng s�t�. This is a d�lapideted ainglQ gamily whic� h� wil� t�ar do�n and �onstru�k a dr�vew�� through the lot to �innoso�a St�e��. �t w�s n�t�� that thi� could be propoae� �s e public lmprov�m�nt, �� h��h caee �h� b��a�it lands could b� s�s�ss�d or cou�d ba a prfvate drlv�way. �� noted the �once�n� r�qarding th� i�pact an the r��donts t� th� ��s� o� thQ driveW�y which �� dupl�x. 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" ..i� . —� V � ^ .�I !� YI• �1 1� `;� �I' �� i.. �1 � .. ... ;.� �� i � ti.. . _ I PLANNINC OFFiCF HQU�iS � ��. „� � � � a� �, � a ,. �� ; a� �; a� �. �� , a� � i� � 2� = . ....» ,. .; . . _ �_ P . 5 .. r � ' „ . ' _,'i . �. .. n ,i �� OAHIGREN SHAROLOW d U9AM � � � • • . September 20, 1988 � TO: Jim Andre � �i ��aM; �ow�rd Dahlgren gUP1JECT: P[dANNING O��ICE N�URS, 1. �alright (7i0-17i�) Se�t�m��r �, 19�8 GQorgfa wri�ht ig ��c��o� �oith ��a �d��n� ��+�y Co�p�r�� wocking out �hr��r �.��a Carr�de o�`�ic�,, ancl ��a �as� in a��+�h �a�n�r� �chukr��k ��7�-�0�2) u1�o a�an� �► hau�Q �at 2�� t�s� ��. W�. ��ig��+� �� y�ng t�► �a�l� �� t�caua� �� h�k�rca�k, ��n� i� � ��a�c��f�n�inc� ��I�� in �o�n� ffia, ��►� ir�g��+�� a��ou+� �h� �o��iEa,tli�� o� ��ot�inc� �4�� +�n� �o�° �c�� r�� ut��. ��Qt�� r�� 1i��+ ��d�r�c� �� o��ng o� �ie� �� r�� u��t�� t�� tM�y eon�l�� N� �� n� t� ��. �� tt�� l�a�� u�d�� n �_ � +�� 8-� �a�► � n� ��a�� : �� +�+��! �+� �1�� v� � e�� o� �h� �� h�� a�€� �� 1+�� o� �N� lo� N��[�� @�� h �� ►��,��y. �� +�� ►�� i M }!C/�f� R�} h��E V'4��*9F3�lACS �! �'VYI{'{SX'6i �bA� �4M�• �1.� fi,@d�'C� E�s� `M\r �s� O � a 'R1R�.l��c� �,�'4��ry�� h�r��n �� n �� i. �� +�� a�� I� �� +��t��l �� o�+��,�� #��i ��a�� r� �� i�l'o��s �� n�� a� �h� �� a�� '�a�t� �� 'u��t�� a��+� �+��aan� �� s�� ►�� +��a �� r� ��I�� t�� I�� c��►a��° �r��haa�� r�� n��l��:�� +� � �� e�� a �i�� 1� ��. �� i�� t�� a�ui� � ��+� �� ►� �� F �� i r��+��Q�.�� , �� t�� i� �� +�� a�� r��r �� +��i�, �. ��a�� t Fs� �Sl � �+� �d�€� � �! A�(� ��'�s�1+� �� ; �fl� �i€�I��►I� �''�c��I� �� 4��'� tk � �� i�� 4� ��'i�� '/�� i�� d€id��tp�i��i� �� i�= �`��i�' ��n� r�� t1-�� +�� , �� a►�� 1�ti �i� �� %+� �� r►��p� �� 1►� ��a�� i�� r�� ► re �,�� i� e� �N� �� f� � �� l � �t�� r�e��1��Q�� f �E�� .`t�b�� r�.i � � � �+� �� +�� °o��€�� o�� , t�� a� � �a�� . i�+� :•�;�r � t.�19� +rtf�S{ £3 � t1 4r��ti��i ��'1�ttl ��U�� i`�P��I�4�� '��`l�f� 6."��! ��i �F�� lk�� 1 . �'�'t3il � � �Oti& �� 2. �9�� t&�m��tt ��y �� ►�d ji?�fl� +��E��1°l��. � �nd �i�i��or� �� tr ��+�� c�� :r�� out�o�* • � � s 3. Cut�ing the lanri into a single family lot plus townhouse lots and a joint parcel for roadway purposes. � �1e taYked abc�ut thE pros and cons of each approach, depending upon the owners objectiv�s. Craiq Waldron reviewed preliminary econ�mic conside�ati9n as r�la�es to the potential impact of owners �nd/o�c davc�lop�rs. 4. Gu�tschof� (4AA-�2�l2) gob Gua�t�eha�f i� � repr�sant�tiv� og '"Guc�techoff Tho��ras" which i$ 8n in��pe�r��lcant �hr��t�a opc�r8tion group �h�at compe,ta with the ��Yg�r �o�z��n�ct� l�}�c� Unit�d ��i8ts. �'hay own the t1iQ��res in thc� �t��nbaw �Qa�� b��l.c�in� n�a��h o� 1,�►rpgntour, �ncl l�e is ��anca�n�ad �i�c��at h�� pc�t�n�i�i €or �t�yiteg therQ or r�ovic�g to �oma �� c�� th� �ity. t�Q ��+�us�aod thc� po��ib�lity af �x��r��.on a�� S�t� ��! ��+� con't�xt �� prep�r�d p��►� 1�� Ey��n Cans��uc��o�► Ca��r�y t�� s� �c�vi,c�w�ac� �ai�h +thQt� �o�� onth� �go. �+� ��e c��,��u��d t�i� ��t��c�� ht�� 1��iov�� n t1�� ci�y �a��Qr°a �t��i� ��e�� a��i�+� �� +��b�e�. 'Th��Q Ic��ian� :ir��udQ� �n ��n��o�► �� a��►i��a� �� a ��rr�t�� a�� o�tt�w�� I�atu�rl ��, � �� ►�� b�o�d � C�rr �h� �rir� L�b�+�� r��a� e�►�i th� ��a�� a��. �� t�+�ll��g� ��t��y �� i��i�, �1� ��+�� hi� dc��ire �o �� f� +�t�� ►i�i� ��t� 1�� h�►� �� i��o�� «i�� n� �v��e �� e�o�� b�� n �� o� +�� a� atP��r ��a� i� �� €�� 1��►� k�� oa� ��r� �ol�# �o '�"��l�n� ��=a�� ►��. �� e��d �h�� e�[��e ��°�� er� f�+�tt� �[h� ��i�� e+�� n�l � ��=�e�� i�� 4 ��►�� c� D��►o� ��► ��►��n ��th � ��►�� ;�� c►�� i�r�� h� t�� a��r" ��+�. �c� ��+�� ►i ��w�l�� r�l�a �� ►k�� , ar�� i�� .�� it� �� r�� a��t3�► ��+�� e��. �� 8�� i�� i� � �� . �� t�� o�� rt �� €� �� `I�. ��+�� e�� +��►�� +�� l�s��i�� ,��a �� 1��►+� e=�� y�_ ��,`�s�� n��i �i�� ►�� +�4• �� °�s�� rt��a �r�n�� rr► o�� a�� l�r�. fih� ��►�� a�� t��a� �� e�� ` �b�+�� 1�� 4f�.� S�T�! �Qs��$��d �A��SS &A8 �N��'' ��'Lr.TfeF�M�� S� ��R� �A�� @�� 'V' �� e��e�� +��r��i �#�� l�� +�+�� ►�� ;�� #�� +�� t�� r�� :� � r�� i� � �� r� �1�� ,�n� ��, �� t��r��i �� t�� .�� .l�i�. �r��b�� r��►t��, �� f�►� �� .�� '!� ��±� '��6! �� '��h►� �l��k�li� c��'�� l� ��i� ��"€��1�s� '�&tl�� a��tv��: ��:�n� �� e�� +� t�+��:��. �e�a �� u�l� a� �6�� °�� r�� '�� n �� h� �� u��, 1� ��i �� ov �� }�� : .� �i��rII�l��i� _ L � ti M� G1�'�+� 1 �e�� rtl �. � � !� � +� . � �a ��i�� 'in��m�:J?#�� Schultz is a contractor working for John Jeager, owner of a Gene Mr. Jeager's house is a single family home at 96 County Road B2• • 20X22 slab on grade structure built within about 5 e�itrby the rear lot line. Recently he additionuto theu house which measurse building department for an however, is not conforming becau 24x21.6. The original house, it set so far back on the lot. lied for a We f ind from the records that in 1977 Mr • Jeager app ermit to build a new garage in front of his existing g arage, and p •S ermit was approved with the condition that the old that thi p a e be torn down as well as the ��W house alongs de the new gar g expanding) and that he would buil a n 1977. Our problem here garage that was approved on December 17, roval, is that instead of proceeding in accordance with that app 's now expanding the little house W�e a�or4sheet rock nqn he i grade addition. The structure is up and a ested that the best solution woul e bu f onto hthet siteg as We sugg erstructur p new basement and move t h i s s u p To remodel the ol d house a n d originally approved by the City. put on t he new addition as a slab on grade r197 deand representsha original variance and conditions issued n ert . Mr. Schultz is unrealistic way to proceed with this prop Je g@r. Mr. SchuYtz going to discuss these potentials with Mr. o� tih@ n otes that the cost for the add�ti51,000. r We cor�mented that existing house is in the vicinrty o for that kind of money you coulci build a new �hous�opQsed b in m`�he with the two bedroom and 1 bath facilit P � current remodeling. �. Greqory C � or was in to review the detail og fl rth� 0�9��ynE��11 Arnie G�reg Y ro ertY lanning develo�rnent plans for the Reiling P P r� aratory to his pros�ntation tincludedh thase ch�ange we h�d p p• The preliminary pl�� commission. i� c�own � d severa 1 w��ks b� Fore h�s naw b��n �h�� Sd t�nto wt�m reviewe attr�ctive solution. �ppears to be a verY lots). Th� p�r� i`' from 320 units to 254 (plus G singl� family the principal driv�way acc�ss is combin�d with th� �nlarged, roviding gar gu��c�°flt access to the shopping center F he commi�mont t° circulation, the main entrance ie movod Pur ae+�r sQuth �o �voicl the single family homes across t�h� str�et, an r�cludcas �nY single family hames to the north end of the ThQ� County Road C2 additional multi family homes to the north. ' ent can be cul-de-saced or a�ctonde ��e d� eiopm�nt�p1anuis alignm zars that i� th� c3,ty so desires» It �pp ob in developing of this l�nd we11 conc�ived and will do a fine � in c�nter dEv�lopment, or as a desirable a d@nse yl devel4ped hm�lti g ami,ly housing. potenti�lly m�re � 8. Price (631-2963) • Fred Price owns the property next to Yale Marshall in the vicinity of the northwest quadrant of Cleveland and Eldridge. He proposes to buy the small L-shaped piece that is contiguous to his p roperty which forms a southeasterly corner of Yale Marshall's land. He would then utilize a portion of his property and that portion he purchased from Mr. Marshall to create a new sinqle family lot conforming to ordinance standards. This appears to be an excellent solution to handling that corner of the Yale Marshall site. He would simply add this property at this ti�me to his existing lot, because he does not want to create a new lot at this time. 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Ti' o ,;.�..,'W`• -..: � , ,,, -t � „ � _. �� n-�—.� � _ �.-- ��----�q -z �..� .___� ' �g � 18 � � :, �9 � ,. g,y r il :... �, ,�.+ � . _. o_ ^ _ ' � �3 � � 2n a .::s ti_._.f IdT Yr II � IZ � 13 t 14 IS i6 � (7 � �• , t .M.MiV _ . n� �. a. �� n . e, _, _. ., � �, � � � August 18, TO: FROM: •S: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, August 17, 1988 1. Wilson �252-6262) Steve Wilson, of the Brutger Companies, was in to present a revised plan for the 28 acre Concordia site. Based on previous discussions, it covld represent a successful solution to this concern. Craig Waldron notes tnat the development the 10 acre park and building with approximately $100,000 per year plus the on a bonding program. proposed could provide a 15 year pa�yout a� TIF ingredient �275,000� We also review the implications of a proposed petition to the city to acquir� the entire 28 acre site, which we understand carrias a price of $3,650,000. Mr, Wilson agreed �hat if that proposal is to be entertained, �that decision should come first. Yn addition, we reviewed the list og other concerns to be e�valuated includi�g school. impact, fire station impact, tragfic, city water pressure, altQrnative rec. cex�ter location, �eneral city housing policy, and revised plans potential. It ap��ared an analysis of these concerns, plus consideration oF the overall pa�rk purchase would result in �h� adjournment ot the Planning Commission ifearing to the 60 day limit at least. Action on the part of th� Planning Connmission could be further delayed if the applicant so requested, which may bQ appropri�te iP more time is to be required to con�ider the total p�►rk purchase conc�pt. In any case, it aPp�ared the Mr. Wilson has prepared a revi5�d plan that drastically reduces density and addresses some neighborhood concerns, particularly as it r8la�es to the single family ham� owners ta the east, and the Vietnamese chur��. 2. �wen (487-149�) John Owen is with �he Roseville 4ffice about 8 lots north of the Skil�.man AvenUe cul d� sac, which is contiquous to their south boundary. She said that the charge f�r fil.linq the pond is $�0.00 for the hookup, plus $100.0o per i00,00� gaJ.lons, has a con�rolled outlet and is used far interim ponding. She says Planning Office Hours Page # 2 • Howard Dahlgren August 17, 1988 �J � that very little of the immediate land drains into the pond, therefore requiring the filling procedure. She seems to have permission for these neighbors to have a well drilled on one of the land owners property for the purpose of filling the pond when necessary. We showed her that the ordinance would require approval of such a well, and that her procedure should be one of preparing their proposal in writing, and submitting it to the council, attention to the City Manager, for council review. We sugqested she be as explicit as possible in terms of the location of the well, specifications for the well (diamete� a�d dep�h), approximate costs, who would be responsible for maintenance and use, and controls that would be placed on the well revellent to uses other tk�an �illing the pond. Another approach might be that of connecting a permanent pipe and valve arrangement ta get the water to the pond, avoiding a hook ug charg�, so as to avoid the expense of a well. q. Jaeaex f721-7581) Douglas Jaeger is a project manager with Kraus-Anderson Construction Company, who was in with �ob Micklak, of the Rapid Oil Change people, who propose to upgrade �heir building at �he northwest corner af Roselawn and Lexington. They have been talking about adding a couple doors on �he back and asking for a variance to the setback on the rear side, but prop4se now to consider that later. Immediately, th�y wish to upgrade the building similar to what they have done to their o�her 22 stor��s in the Twin Citys area. '�his incYudes the application oF a gray stucco finish around the entire building and new sign�ge to be applied to the gray stucco on the side o+� the buiTding anci on the red panel on the front, We revi�ewed the siyn areas and f4und them to be within the sign code. They therefore c�n proceed with a building permit for the ext�rior renovation. 5. Berry ( 314-821- 1�0_1_ Rs.ck f3erry and Paul Huber, both from the Casco Corporation, an archit�ctural firm out of St. Louis, represents Kids-R-Us and Toys-R-Us, presented a prelirninary plan for the Nor�thwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company site, (13 acres southwest of Fairview and County Road B-2) for a shopping center of whi�h Toys-R-Us and Kids-R-Us would be a part. The Toys-R-Us store wauld be a 40,000 sq. ft. and the Kids-R-Us store would b� a 22,000 sq. ft. The latter is principally a childrens clothing store. Th�y project occupancy and cr�mpletion for approximately October 15 of 1989 or 1990. The total center would have approximately 1h2,000 sq. it. with several pheriphial buildings. They reviewed with the staff all of the procedures and development requirements noting that we emphasize the need for Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren August 17, 1988 their buildings to be part of would likely be reviewed at th application for rezoning, PUD preliminary plat. � � E. Grectorv (332-55441 Page # 3 the overall plan, and tha� they e same time in the context of an approval, site plan review, and Arnie Gregory of the Can-Am folks was in with Katie Harms, who is a neiqhbor westerly of the proposed Can-Am development of the Reiling property north of city hall. Mr. Gregory presented a revised plan which includes a development o� 6 single family homes with 150 ft. of depth on the northerly part of their property, (frontinq on C-2), the dropping of one of the 75 uni� apartment buildings, and the use of 13 8-plex units ° an� ha remainder of the site, eep�nct t�: uroAose , small 20,000 sq. ft. cent�r at the immediate corner of County Road B-2 and Woodhill. Though a se�arat� driveway to Woodhi.11 had been looked at, we agree that such a street placed behinci th� lots on the west side of the property would be dis-advantageous to the neighborhood, We sugqest that rather than that, the main entrance to the site be conti�guous to th� shopping area, so that access to the c�enter and the development itself can be via the same driveway point. This provides means for people to get fronl the developmen� to the shq�ping �Enter �,.rithoUt ao�nQ out into the �ut,�ic street. This is the most logical way to handle the traffic to and from this site and the shoppir►g area. It was noted that if the moratorium was establisheci on the �iWe that the Gregory orato ium and thus erequired hpla ni g rstud�r to noted that the m down zone the land is an expensive and cqntroversia2 pr4cedure that the city should avoid if passible. We suggested that the compromise plan or somethinq cl�se to it is a much more appro�riate solution rather than a forced so].ution through down zoning, that may wincl up more controversial and perhaps less desirable than the proposal now being considered. Mr. Gregory proposes to have a meeting with the neighborhood to review his proposal. The nsw design 3�as been submitted �or processing by the Planning Comm council at the f 1lowing ecou cil meeting,�nd consideration by t�e � � � 2 � 3 � 4 � 5 � 6 � 7 _$� 8 �i 9 =�� t0 � ti � �2 � !3 »�, t4 � I� =� 15 J-� 17 ; IS ` �9 � �2Q �� . � A �_ B= u�- � c; ct� � �i4 F c�e � H ufe � � K � I� 2•� 3�j 4 g ��oo ROS�YIi.LE MINNESOTA PLANNONG O�FICE HOURS �� 1'?� bb DAHLGREN SHAROLOW 8 UBAN � e�' '��. i . �'�'�°„�- ± '�. 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He d�d t�ie work in 1986, and also extended a portion o� hfs house wi�thin thrQe feet as woll. H� was advised t�y the City that � n�w minox variance procedure is required which ha has b�en discussing with hi� neighbor for some time. On April 13, 198g, Mr, R�kueki and his no�qhbo� cam� in to .:iscuss their co�n�ern�. l�t tha� timQ we 4te�ped them agrQ� on 8 point$ of �ction to bo tak�n by Mr, Ytekuski to sattlQ their concerns� with tha und�rst�ndinq that hi� r►eigtabor (u�ughn Garson) would sign a mino� vsrian�e appiieetion. A�tach�d �� 8 copy of the momo outlinir�g th� points end kt�o ac�r��m�n� r@�ch�d at that time. �ulb�aqu�r�tly, Mr, Larson �pparont�,y docid�d r�ot to �ign th� �' applic�C�on, 81�hougl� t�r. Rekuski r�ports that h� has �ccomplf�sh�d t�o oight �.t�ms as agreod upon. We �dvisod F9r, RekUski that hi� e�at.i�n et thi� po,int �rm to prc��ag� tho �p�licar,:3o�n a� t� roge�lar v�ri�nce. t�e gavQ Mr. R�kuski a cop�r og the mc�m�c� wo had w�itton, �+hfch ha m�y wish to r�fc�r to Ptr. L�aar�on so th�t. he wauld �ign �thc� minor v�r�anc�. ►' � 3 :�� te�b La�tmral], i,s with the Ka�ll�r ��alty �1gc�ncy ar�d waa in to d�sctnss tha Kell�r/,7ohnson k�uilding �t �he soutlteaet cs�rn�r o� Coun�.y Road e a�d M�ml irac�. T�o builcling w�� uil�t in 1967. Th�y haye an �xis�:in� sign with �hr�a f��c�s properly lac�t�d on t�e corr��r �ic�ht f��t wide and 6 fao� high, mount�c� �n posts with the to��.�l he�.qh� abou� 7� f�� h3gh. Th�y pro�a.��e to rs�n�w th�a sig� wit� �ett�r mataxi�ls and m�ke it 6�t. w,idc� and 8 ft, t�ll, thus the� sign �rQ� will rc�m�in the same. Tha n�� sie�n wi11 have the lec�� cover��d� so �� pp�a�s mo�� liko A mo�ummnt ground sign� Tha�s, the �ign will be � f�.. high. �1 • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren August 10, 1988 Page # 2 Inasmuch as the sign area rema�ins the same, it would appear appropriate to approve a building permit as a replacement sign. 3. �illstrom (636-3181) Keith Hillstrom lives at the southwest carner of Judith aHe Hamline on the lot 86 ft. on Judith and 115 ft. on Hamline. proposes to add to his existing garage which is three feet from the property line (west side) and make it approximately 24 ft. x q� ft. Though this is a very large garage, he would have acc�ss only for one vehicle because of the clos� proximity �o the back of the house. W� suggested that he tear down the old garag�from build a new one on t�nd � 5 tft�. stfr m nthe� rear lote�line t(which the �ide lot line conforms �o thQ ordinance) and thus create eno�gh space to have at least a two car �nd �th� hou e he dwoUld have ua $f inegplay ar�a between tho gAr�Q� and would k�ave adequate �paee to ��rk two cars in front of tho garage and g�et acce�s �o wh ch wil g req i.re�no� va iancQs o�'ng to consider this passibility '� A1 Kire is a r@altor with i�erril� Lynch Realty Company anei propos�� to divide� �s lot �or Mra. St. i.eauis who �ive� at 2185 St. Cx�#,�. Sl�e has �.6o gt. o! �rontaga �s hc�r �w� c�n+tigur�us fl�ighbors to tha north. Sho h@ �a�o�;@B 't4 div�a� thc�t 160�fta P�om the Sk. i.,su�s prop�rty. P� lot into two lat�, '�he twca lo�s s�ri�tly nar�h oE h�r �ropo�ty �,x� ai�o lots �it� 1G1 �t�h hor nai� h ors, ��►nd �con id r�pplYing d,��cuss�d tR i�s propos� 1 w i 9 for a lot �p1iG, C1ar�n�e Schil3c�r i� a r��►ltar �rith Cal�oun r�alty comp�ny. who �a�c kaeon comani��inn�d �a soll �artions o� the o�fi�a� Proja�t northee�t�rl�► of tho Rc��ointo pra�ject. F'o�r oi th �r�ntl� buildinys propo�Q�i hav� b�en c�n�tructed. 'ihe}� h�u� 8�P Y conclud�d tha,t th�a axisting p�oposal a� d�sigr�a� is t�o� sellia�g, i��ch �s tw� nf thc� sxstia�g bui,lc3inr�s �rra �15o pro�c��ad for ��le at tfi�is tim�. W� �ugge�t�d that thay cons3.cler a new developmc�n� proposal rather th�n �im�ly a s�1e ti�� land. Thgr � therafor�, may �aropose a s�le candit�ional upon approv�l of a sp�ci�ic dc�ve�.opm@nt d��iga�. Thus ti�� city w�uld b� in th€� posit�an to considmr �n amended �lan, r�►#�.h�r th�n simply va�e��.on of tha� portion of th� pla idsreel and �n�ame,nd�d� pUpxh�xe is, therefore, a replat to be cons �J • �� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren August 10, 1988 While there, we also discussed signag development, including the development for signs, which were discussed with Mr. Beseth, 6. Kaufield (501-785-8891) Page # 3 e for the existing real estate for sale Building Inspector. Tross Kaufield is the director of construction for the ABF Freight System, Inc. operating aut of Fort Smith, Arkansas. They hav�e a t�rminal here at the s�>>theast corner of Cleveland and Iona Lane (no`- built). Th�y are concerned about the ultimate improvements of Cl�veland and Iona Lane pertaining to the Twin Lakes� Area Land Use and Traffic Study. We had prepa�red a drawing for them on how the right�-of-way could be expanded to accomada�te additional traffic in the area, and yet retai.n the ability to operate their existinq �unctions at the site. They hael pr�ep�red another drawing illustr�ting how tha parking and loading would function if additional right-of-�a� is purchased by aqraQmQnt or condemned, �IQ agreed that the drbwing indicatad how it could ba done and, th�t und�r tha circumsta�tcQ of a candQmnation, th� parking would r�ot bQ moved back to tha r�oa^mal ordfn�nc� requirem�r�t (but within th�ir pro��rty lines). wo no��d too, tt�at in �h� evont the �iqht-of-way w�re to bo sxpan��d, in�cluciing 6 lanes on Ion� L�ene, it i�s k�ighly unT ikc�ly �h�t their p��porty woUld r�m�in in its pres�nt u�Q. Zn other words, th� �xpa►nsion of trsffic cap�bility► w�u1d no� b�e n�c�ssa�� unless thQ �.a�d w�rtt tQ be d�vc�].op�d. 'W� agxQod th�t � writtan r�sponse to thair propo�al wouid be a�ppropriato, �a as �c� givQ thom ro�sonabl@ as�urance oi� the �s��s�aility o! t�aeir continu�ti�an of opc�r�tion in the ev�nt aP Eu�i� tra��ie improv�r�ant€� were ta bc� m�d�. They notad that und�r tha�Q cir�umst�ncQs, they do not objmct ta tha x'win La►kc�s Deval�pmc:nt pgopo��l �� long �� thc��r ean remain r�n �ho s�tm if thay so choo��. 7. ��ht�i�t�t�� f_f��-fi�� l �ruc� Scitni�d�r is wit�, p�ci��'ic Mutual Doox Comp�ny who c�me to Ros�ville 22 yQ�rs aq�, �cq�i�ing �dcl�.tiona� lend to thc� sou�h wk�ich th�y note� may ba a�ei�.�ble, �nd �p�►Q�� ndlustrial d�v�lopm�nt in tha axisting �omprc�h�ns�ve pl�n, ; • • • _ •. � Tc�m �rody was in with JQrry Ro�s to ravi.�w th� possiblQ c�xp�nsion o� �avilion Pl�c� into �h� singl4� �'ami.l.y r�sid�nti��l are� to th� ��s� w�ich con�ists of twenty-two existing hc�mes. We noteci the Council's �aolic�� x�egardin4 thQ neQd fox �n "overwhelming majc3Yl��" �i tha landowners being in f��.�or of such Planning Office • Howard Dahlgren August 10, 1988 � � Hours Page # 4 a proposal. They indicated that 20 o:E the existing 22 homeowners signed an agreement to sell. We expressed vur particular concern with respec� to the handling of tra�fic. If re�ail traffic is opened to the north, this would have an effe�ct on the existing residential area and traffic on Oakcrest. We sugg�ested, tZ�er�fore, that a careful analysis of the traffic capability as it relates to the access ta Count�r Road �-2 th�ough the Pavilion Place site, would be crucial. We �gre�d that expansion or improvement of the Pavilion Place si�uation miqht ise more appropriate to the east, than buildinq a parking ramp as much earlier sugqested by tho curren� owner� of P a v i l i o n P l a c�. T h� owners, t hey noted, are Pavilfon Place A►ssoci�tes, a t�ew Yoxk LTD Partnership. We suqges�ed ff they pra��ed, they ahouZ� cor�sider preparatian of � preliminary design, drawing�, and the cantext oP car�gul].y prep�r+�d traffic analyses. � -•, - - -� S�ev� W�ison of th� Srutgor Corapanie�, r�as in wi�h Dan K��ker o� i�op� �,ss+ociate� to revi�w passiblc� ait�Xations to the si�e p��nn for the rec�ev�lopm�nt of th� Concordi�r �#i�h Schoo� site. T�h� pr�viou� pro�o�al� i��d 2� �inglc� �amily t�am�s, 30 townha�ts�s and 23� apar�ment�. 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Additional space taken up by the one story units makes it necessarested bthat an access road on a public street. We sugg public road construction would be ahe bli ai provementif I� can be worked out financially as p appears obvious that such a straeie��u�ourttlwhichY basefwe the redevelopment of the tr rice of one million understand it, is available at a p � dollars. Though no one knoouldaaen ear dthat�ultimat lytit trailer court may occur, i� w pp thou h the will, in as much as the property is for sale, g timing is unknown. We suggested that Mr. 0'Meara discuss . the public road question with Mr. Charles Hor�chell, so asM�o review the options for accomplishing that approach. O'Meara noted that he will he employing an architect to prepare the f inal des igns , and t trie tn mber f one and 1 two the two options, depending upon � story structures. The totnd the edensity would brema n Sthe as previously approved, a same. • 4, Rekuski (489-13881 Frank Rekuski lives at 1225 Josephine Road, and has been expanding his house and replacing the garage as previously approved by the city. His eXlgessed tsomeeconcerns to uMrn Larson (482-2564), who has p Rekuski regarding the redevelopmWith°somebodytfromMcityahall wanted to rev�.ew these concerns so as to have an understanding �heh construct�.on would tbe manner in certain details of handled. We, therefore, agreed to review these items with both gentlemen and would hope that Theundt �S a discu ss d dand reached and put into effect. solutions arrived at were as follows: 1, gay window on the� east roval f b he the S city ewill tbe desi g n a f t e r i t s a p p Y eliminated, and a straight window will be su bs�o te�� d. (The bay extended o f r�herhouserwasr bu lt at the samey3 and this portion f�ot setback that was approved for the garage). � V • C� � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 13, 1988 2. The roof runoff on would be managed with the runoff from going � the east side new downspouts on Mr. Larson's Page # 4 of the structure so as to prevent property. 3. The retaining wall, built on the east side of Mr. Rekuski's property from the structures toward the lake, will be stepped back and reduced from 4 ft. to two 2 ft. walls, thus not requiring a fence. This wall is treated timber, and will be rebuilt with the same material. 4. All the yard work, including the repair to Mr. Larson's grass will completed by May 6 in accordance with an agreed upon landscape plan to be prepared by I�Ir. Rekuski and reviewed with Mr. Larson. It is agreed that he will add 6 or 7 pyramidal evergreen trees along the east side of his garage. 5. The damage done to Mr. Larson's garage will be repaired, which apparently includes replacement of a metal strip added near the northwest corner of the garage. 6. The damage to Mr. Larson's driveway will be accomplished by Mr. Rekuski paying for the �ealer for the entire driveway, which will be installed by Mr. Larson, 7e There will be a new underground power and telephone service constructed from the southwest corner o� Mr. R.ekuski's lot, replacing the ovErhead service that :�ow exists which affects Mr. Larson's property. 8. Mr. Reskuski's new garage is three foot higher �than the old driveway, the new driveway will be set back 5 ft. frozn the property line as required, and the transitiQn will be landscaped in accardance with the landscape plan to be prepared and agreed upon. It was further agreed that a new minor variance will be processed relating ta the setback of the home which w�s built three feet from the property line, the same as the setback approved for the garage. This revised site plan will then be reprocessed as a shoreline development applicatian. It is hopec� that the agreement on the part of these two fellows will s�ttle their joint concerns, and result in no further difficulties between the two. �n this basis, Mr. Larson noted that he does not object to ti.e development as now proposed. � u �J August 4, 1988 TO: Jim Andre � FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJFCT: PLAIv�NING OFFICE HOURS, August 3, 1988 1. Tom Pattin (339-817 � Tom Pattin and Tom Blexrud propose to build an auto mall on the Kath property which surround Ace's service station on the southeast corner of Roselawn and Lexington. They have been negotia�ing with Ace to attempt to acquire a service statiQn site. The nor�herly portion of this L-shaped tract is on B-1. In the past few years it has been turned down as a Knowlan's supermarket site (taking �out Ace's gas station), and later approved as an off-sale liquor store site with a B-1 land being used for parking only. We suggested that the auto mall requiring a B-3 zone would be difficult on this site because caf the single famil�r development that surrounds it (except for multi-family on th� south side). We sugges�ed, then, that an auto ma11 for which there may well be a good market for in Roseville, should be locat�d in one of the other areas where ther� are retail sales and service of that scale are already de�termined to be appropriate, including are�s in the Twin I�akes study zone. We suggested that they work wi.th a developer to help th�m carve out a piece of a development for their auto mall use. They agreed to pursue this direction. 2. Hackworth (614-876�32861 Jim Hackwortri with the Red Roof rnns, Inc. proposed to develop the east�rly portion of the Ruan site for a Red Roof Inn. With the Fire Marshal, Jon Nisja present, we discussed first life satety requ�rements, co:.cluding that they will have a fu11y sprinkled building, alarms in each room. Jon noted that a fire hydrant would be required near the northeast corner of the site so as to conform to the 300 foot st�andard. Craig Waldron noted that their market research on �the site would be required to be reviewed by the Coun�il. They are in the process of preparing the site plan and noted th�it they will be using Jerry Sunde for engineering and surveying� We reviewed procedures and timing, with emphasis on drainage ana�ysis and quality of development. They are pursuing a new site in Plymouth, and hav� existing Red Roof Inns in Woodbury and � � � �� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren August �, 1988 � P�ge # 2 Burn�ville. Mr. Hackworth noted that they do their own general contracting and inquired regarding licensing. They use local subs ta do the work. We also reviewed highway access noting the poss�.bility of right turn in and out o� County Road C, and potential use of a joint driveway to a potenti�]_ building site on the �aest . 3. O°Meara (633-0246� Barry 0'Meara and Carol Tanning (from Merrill Lynch Realty) were in to discuss plan� for the completion of the 16 unit quadram�.nium site south of the trailer park and west of Lexington Avenue. Mr. 0'Meara present�d a very preliminarX site plan indicating the development of three new structures of 4 units each which would be largely one story bui�.dings with two garages per unit with common walls between �he garages. They showed us pictures of a similar development called "Oak R�.�n11. This development is located on �he northwes�t corner of Southcross Drive and Portland Avenue (south of County Road 42). Ba.rry noted that these units average about $120,000 each and wou'ld be for sale. He put an ad in the paper to test �he market, and he said he got thirty calls. He said he is very encouraged and noted that most of the calls desired one level living spaces. They are for pe�pl� who want to move out of their single �amily houses, want to stay in Roseville, and do not want to deal with stairways. Barry's plan would require that the access to the individual bui�dings be via a public street which is platted� but not built on the north side of the site (Roseplace) . We reviewed raays �.n which this could be done, which include a public improvement, assessing both sides, assessing his side with a TIF for the north side (trailer court), or assessing his side and deferring the assessment to the north. Mr. Waldron suggested th�t a review of the options may be appropriate at a council work session. The problem here is that this type of d�velopment, which we think would be very attractive on the site, cannot be done if the old private street concept is continued. Mr. 0'Meara notes that they are willing to pay th�ir share of the assessmez�t. We expressed our concern that if they build a private street on the 0'Meara site, if the public street is ever built, it will be difficult �to assess land already served by a parallel private street. In other �words, it would appear that the best solution is to build a public stree�, and put the access where it can best serve bath properties. 4. Senser (631-17811 • �J �1 l� J � Plann�.ng O€fice Hours Howard Dahlgren August 3, 1988 Page # 3 Joe Senser (a former Viking footk,all player) was in with Bob Stephenson to review their preliminary plans for the conversion of the Mother Tuckers Restaurant site to a"Joe Senser's Sports Bar and Restaurant". They propose to keep the exterior of the building substantially the same, but with a new color scheme which they presented to the staff. The colors looked very well done. They are going to use the existing pylon sign and add a small sign on the building, well within the sign requirements. They proposed to put a neon tube around the building and up the gables. We noted that this would not be allowed inasmuch as it is considered an attention getting device, and thus is part of the signage. We suggested, however, such a tube on the front gable only, accenting the entrance woulc� be appropriate. They agreed to this proposal. They presented the preliminary layout of the interior where there is substantial remodelinq� to b� a�complished. Gordy Beseth reviewed the parking requirements as specified in the ordinance and faund that the 250 spaces �rovided would be adequate as it relates to the ordinar�ce. They noted that they are looking at arrangements to provide additional parking utilizing potentially contiguous land ta the north, We encou�aged that approach because if the bar is very successful, the parking required in the ordir�ance may not be adequate at same periods. Iraasmuch as there is no exterior change, the redevelopment of the building will not r.equire a new site plan review. Their objective is to open about September 25. 5. Schwartz (484-1177� Mike Sch*�aartz owns the former cycle shop building northerly of McCarrons Street and westerly of Rice Street. He was in to inquire as to uses t}�at could be made of the building now that the cycle shop is building a new facility on another site. Mr. Jopke reviewed the permitted uses allowed in the B-3 zone. We also talked about the potential for expansion as it relates to parking and curbing requirements. Mr. Schwartz noted his interest in selling the building at this stage, but was interested in finding out to what uses the land and building could be put. 6. Brown (4�4-5142Z Reverend Brown and Rodney Eld are from King of Kings Lutheran Church, where they occupy a 4.9 acre site at the northeast corner of Dale Stree� and Minne�ota. They operate a 120 people K-3th grade parochial elementary school and a pre-school for 4 year olds on the si�e. This is a Missouri-Synod T�utheran Church. The � C� � Planning Off�.ce Hours Howard Dahlgren August 3� 1988 Page # 4 church was built new in 1964 and a multi-purpose room and other facilities were added in 1978. Due to the potential change in the educational systems of some of the other related churches, �here may be contemplated a change in their parochial school program. Thus they were interested in the possible use of their site. We noted the city's long standing policy against commercializing T.H. 36 east of Hamline Avenue. Within that area, over the past 30 years there have been no commercial developments contiguous to Highway 36. In other words, the policy has been successfully and consistently pursued. Under these circumstances, we noted that any idea of developing a shopping center on the church site may well not be reasonable. Due to the presence of the multi- family housing to the west (across Dale Streetj, and its contiguous location to the freeway on the south (Minnesota Street off-ramp), there would appear to be a possibility for some form of mul.ti-family housing. We also reviewed with them various locations in Roseville where they might move. We examined the entire city, noting that they are very few sites available zoned R-1 which would be the appropriate zone for their facility. They expressed their appreGiation for the staff's time and efforts. We agreed that the re-use of a church building can be difficult, and that one of their options may be to remain at the site. � � � 2� 3� 4� 5 a� 6 � 7�� g� 9=� !O � 11 � 12 `--a"� 13 � f4 � IS � 16 '� _ i,. _ rr �I i' ♦ t. t: . �� 1 n � � 2•� 3� 4 g � �os�v�«� MINNESOTA PLAI�AIIPIG OFFICE HAURS �'�'� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW & USAN � r�.r... w �;� `�' r 17 -i I S ` I 9 �� 20 '� � IQ �;^ i I � 12 � 13 $� 14 -.� -- 15 �i 16 � 17 �I I8 � i� �` 20 '` � � � �.� ❑ August 2, 1988 TOo FROM: � Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJEC7.': PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. �almateer (645-02�3� � � July 2'7, 1988 Ftick Palmateer is with �1niv�rsal Sign Company an�i proposes tn erect � new sign for the Motel Six property which is being developed o� the a.��i Victoria Station site. Tl�ey �r�pose a sign 18o scg. ft. (12 x 15) ancl 145 ft. high. �he problem here is that the land is zoned B1-B which all.ows for a sign of 100 sq. �t., 25 ft. high, if contiguous tv a freeway whiah i� the case i�er�. If th� land we�e z�ned B-2 ar �-3, �he pylon sign allawed would be �25 s+q. ft. , 45 ft. high. We suggested tl�at the �ign which wa� ap�rovedl f�r th� Niother TucDc�r's site, immediately cor�ta.guous to the narth would be a gaod gui.de as to wha� migh� be reasonabie ir� thxs case. Rick Jopkg che�cked the re�o�ds and found that �n the �as� of the Mother �ucker's de�re�lopment a vari�nc� was i�su�d far a�ign 167 sq, f�., q� ft. high. Under thesQ csanditions, it w�uld be ��propriate to consider a similar size and t�eigh� i'or the Ma�e1 Six develnpment. Mr Paln�ateer agr�ec� and will apparently praceed to pxocess an ap�alicatiot� for such a sign. ;.�_ , • Scott Roberts was in to revie�r the dovelopment p�tential �c�r the Antono2zi sit�, whicl� is north of Cc�un�y Road C-2 anc� easterly of Hi4hway 8. The�� are two Zo�s own�d by mothear and daughter� consisting of appraxim�ately 2�cres. Th� lan� eas� plan indicates this as a hiqh den�ity multi-�aznily hausing and would, �herefcare be �lev�lop�ble und�r tt�e R3-A district at approximately 17 un�,ts per acre. Therefare, there could conceivably be a 34 ur�it apartment construc�ed on ti�e site. Mr. Rob�rts not�d that the tax r�cords continue to indicate this as industrial prop�rtg�, whick� it is no�. We checked again with the zQn�.ng records confirxning that the lartd is zoned R-i, but designa�ed an the Comprehensi�re Plan as Hi.gh Density Residentiai . 3 . Rob�rts_ t 631--9113�� Mr, �2oberts also reviewed with the staff a dev�lopment potential for the Busse property on Larpentuer, westerly of Dal,e Street. This is a five acre site on which approximat�ely one-half is � � J Flanning Office Hours Howard �ah3.gren Jul�r 27, 1988 �� Page # 2 developable, there being a pond on the north side of the site. We noted that this is indicated on the Comprehensive Plan as medium density which would qualify for �her 6could ber54uunits 4,Q00 sq. ft. per unit. At that density, put o�n the site. The land is zoned R-2 which requires 5,500 sq. f�. per unit. There could conceivably be 39 units. We reviewed the criteria and procedures for PUD, noting that a developer has a riqht to submit his/her PUD, but the city has a right to turn it down or amend it. We wanted Mr. Roberts to clearly understar►d that the submission of a PUD is a privilege and not a right to agproval. The emphasis is on quality desiqn and compatibility with contiguous owners and reasonableness of the propo�al conforming to the density requirements of the zone proposed. It should also have options as to the buildinq form. Jim Forberg is an architect who was formerly with ti�e firtn og Johnson and Forberq, whose firm siid the additi�n af the flld cf�y hall on the west sida which at that time, acco�nmodated th� EnginQe�ing Department. Jim was in to review a pro�ao�ec3: additi.or► to the nursir�q home north of County Road B and ea��rly o�' Da�a Street. This is a 73 bed facility in whiGh they propose ka adc� a physical therap�r apartment, a toile�, and a small c�ffic� are�. The additxon will be 20 ft. x 44 ft• No add�t�ional rooms wiil be added with th� construction o� thi� ad�itic�n. The 73 beds requires ]. parkin� space for �very 4 b�ds, c�hich would equal lE spaces. The site has 42 spac�s, nane of which would be reduced by the addat;an praposed on th� bu�.l.ding. Thi� is a case wr�er� th� building permit �an �e is�ued ior the expansion of the bui.lding without Planning Commissiori or Council review. The building will be l�uilt of brick to match th� �xisting structure. :. �� Jim Bartlett was ir� with Walt Mi13.er who ace��rc:sent� Red Ron� Inn out of their Cr►lumbus, Ohio c�ntral h�adquart�:rs (51�-876-320.01 .---� -- Red Roai Inns h.ave 200 inns a�ouncl th� coun�ry, mostl� z� �iid- ___� America and th� Eas�. Thi.s is a privately held company, �s�a supposedly the larges� privately held motel company zn th�e United States. ei�lliriys are estima�ed a� 2A0 million per year. �'hey pro�� o bu�ld a ne� Red Roo� wi�h 119 building would be 36 - 38 thousand sq. ft., three with an elevator. �he buxlding wau�.d be constr�uc�i.on, and would occupy a 2.5 acr� si�e easterly portion of a tc�tal of 4. A5 acre site that rooms. The s�ories high �11 masonry which is a Mr. Bartlett � L� Planning �ffice Hou=s Howard Dahlgren July 27, 1988 Page # 3 purchased from Ruan Tru�king. Access to this site for full �urning movement� are of� Long Lake Road. The site plan did not indicate a ri�ht turn in and out off County Road C but we sugge�ted that they add it. We agreed that it would be best near the center of the site where it would serve both the westerly portion a�d the easterly site (where the motel will be). They are proposing a restaurant on the westerly site (southeast corn�r) aF �he southeast corner of Long Lak� Road and County Road C. We reviewed a pr�liminary site plan netinq that the areas had to be curbed and that 3� of the parking area has to be landscaped. T�e site plan lookod like it would work well on the s�te with ad�quate parking and appropriate areas for landsc�ping and setbacks, This ,uotel chain in this area would function at about $32.00 -$35.00 pQr night. They have 86 room� in �urnsvi�le, 100 in Woodbury and are proposing a new onQ in Plymouth. This would have to be processed as a Speci�2 Us� Pertnit for site plan approval. The land is zoned B-�. �here would also have to be processed a prelim�narv piat dividing �h� land into two parceas. :_ -.! �� Tom RuvQlBon w�s in repres�nting D�v� Hodg�s �idamubilQ, wt�i�ch appar�ntly p�raposes to sell to wa].ly McCarth�'s 41d�s. �i�a revi�wed siqn.age drarrings �nd �groed th�t ch�ng� fco� �ick �tadq�s Olds to wally rfcCarthy's Old� could b� done •�r�thin th� �igt� ordinance ina�much as the new letter c�ould r� �m�11�r th�n t�a� old. The ward "Olds" rQmain:i the s�me. �ao noted t��fi th� sit� with public right-of-way on threA sidas can add r� �ic�n an t�i� west s�d� of the building. Sic�n limits ar�e l0a �q. ft, �r 4fi of the wall ar��, whichever is grc��tQr. Ed� �gr��d th�t on the �t��t side of the building wherQ th� 'tOlds" appe�rs �ox the ��G��d �im�r it cauld be changQd to say "Us�d Cars" but th�� it can no� b� larger �han th� �xistir�g sign. Wa notod t�ha�. th�r bra�n+�r� that now �p�ear on tho f1ag�,o1,E� arour�d �ho si�c� mu�t �ao remov�d. Ameri�an flags can remain. �a ask�d Pcar their coa�ar��ior� in g�ttiny these banners rem�av�+d a�mmQdiatel�. Mr� Ru�uelson �gre�cl to do so. � Bob Mi,kulak is �rith Rapid Oi1 �am�aany, which i� awnc�d by the Valvoline Campany which, in turn, is awnod by Ashl�nd Oil. The central pffice is in �exington, KentuckX� They had talked t� us recently a;bout a f ive foo� v�riance to tfn� 10 �001� setback on the back oi their building at Lc�xing�on and Ftoselawn (nor�hw��t corner). He informs us tociay that th� neighboring apartment hc�use development in�trudes on 5 f�et of their 10 foot strip. The fence dividing the prop�rti�s is in the middle of �he Ttapid Oil � • i � � � PZanning O�fice Hours Howarcl Dahlqren July 27, 1.988 Page � 4 �0 �oot strip. Z'he c3riveway of the a�artment occupies 5 feet of tt�e 10 feet (up to the fence) . Thus, if they reduce ti�e 10 f�� tQ 5 Pt. there will be no s�ace for landscaping. There is al�o a problem in that there is a changing grade at this point, s� t�iat if th�: spac� for vehicles turninq on the Ra�id Oil sic�e aP t�� site is wid�ned from 18 ft. to approxima�ely 23 ft., there w��tl�t have ta be � retaining wa�ll s�veral fQe� high. We suggested they should work out, with the apartment own�r, th@ use oP ths fiv� fe�t. T'h�y should �ove the drivew$y back to wh�re i� �elongs, � fte from �h� propQrty line. Thfs i$ to all��r a use� of th�ir lanc� fa� a driveway by agreament: thQre should �hen be� a v�riar�c� ��su�d on �h+� multi-family hou�ing si�e. W� suq�oqtQd the important thing i� how they wi�h �o h�ndl� the fan�c��c�P tht� r�t8fn�ing wall, a�nd the l�ndscaping �o �s �o ��fect �hc� '�ransitfor� betwQ�n tl�o busino�s site �nd tho n�ul�i-��nil�y hou�inc� sita. It i� 1 ikoly in �h,is c�se, th�t tt�m driv��v�y t� thc� r��t� of th� multi��ar�ily h�using site� a�ill simply b� wid�r �o prov,id+� for a strip ot p�r�l,lel �Arieing. I� appc��,rs t�� tta�� r�� i3�� don� a�ter �hc� apartm�nt w�� b+�ilt, withou� ci��r �a�im�sfan» i� they �x�caed w�th thi� eiQv�l4pm�nt propo�a]., it +wou�c� b� proca,��t� a� ��vari�ncQ to �hs� 10 �k. rQc�uired l�n�d��a�p�s �tr�.�a �r� b�twc�an bu�ir►+�ss ernd r��idan�r�1 l��rd u��. Joann Arvidson 1�va� et ��58 Gl�� L.�nQ �nd h�� boQn e� rr��ida�t thc�re for a�iout l� ya�r�. Sh� propo�a� to bt�i�d ��r�it�m�ng� �aool +n th�ir b�ck y�rd w�ich front� on F'e�rviQw AvQnuc�. The� �f�t+� i� h��ri1y r�oode�d, �nd th��► propo�e to build a��t. ��n�c� a��fthin 5 ft. of th�ir �� P�oFarty lin+a �con�,iguau�s t� F�i�►i�w J�vcanu�) . It mu�t bc� �yigh r�n��gh tca �u�►ction �� thc� �acur�ty fQnc� far t�� swimmia�g pac�i . Tt�air� s�rivc�wa�► �e�� c�nt�� th� �it� �rom �'airvic�w, �n� thQy �ropc�sQ ta �r�-rou�Q �h� c��#.vc�w�y �ram Gluak i.aaa�e. So, in c��Ca�c�� thag� �ro��e to �r�cx�c��c� �h� �riv�e� in tt��r rc�ar yard, �nd to c�i��sso�ia�� rom tho h�a,�vy trs�fi� cn FA3rvic�w CQ �h� ax�ont �ha� ttzay c�rn. ThQ�Q aro caxistir�� b�a�h�� th�t Choy put �lonc� �afz��e�w, st�d tha P�nc� �roule3 k�� l�cod in�i�im ir� lin�, �lecing i� � f�. �ron� �t��ir rc��x �ropr�rty �inQ. We sugq��d th�t �h� �re��g� � p18rr �how��g tht� location o� �h� f�nc� a� we�ll �s her neighbors fr�n�c� �hich i� mppazantly �aighe�r than 4 f�, in tt�at 34 ��. strip on thc� wc��t �id� o� F�irv�ow. It aPp�aar� that this �s �► ��ar�ablc� req�Est be�e�usa a� th� hea�ry trs�fi� on �airview. �3ec�►usQ oF �I�� sit�s on this par� aP Gluek Lsne are he�vily �roodad, it would ��pear ta 1�eve rals�ively Ii��l� impac� an any o�hc�r propear�y owner ira tho imm�di�te ar�a. 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MINNESOTA .�' `i' R�"ri3ED C�1Ti � � +�«�••• •• �y� � � i, ;,� �` i J. ; �y i p ��>f 1 � i #a..a• � ai � ra� '0 ~11 A�• ��,j � � �� u �el PLANNING +O1F�ICE �i�ll�� ' � `� .`�. _ , --- . . _ _ _ . . .. __ _. .: _.� . �_ . , :. ,r: :. •yj �_ " t0 '" �� i2 N� i; �c �� '' t6 �7 � i 4, =�. v ..... ,,.�q � _ _ � . „ � w I 8 � I 9 �tl 20 � �j � / s, �`+�•,w ae+ i � '�.,� 7� � f � � ��' � ,d. } ►, 'T��.w i _`�` -_ � . . ,. , ». oa��caeN sr+aao�ow a ue�ew C t�w � E ni3 F LSi�' L � � � July 25, 1988 • TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howar� Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOUR5, 1, Clemens/Slavick (228-0106) � 2. � July 20, 1988 Mark Clemens and Carol Slavick, propose to develop one story cottage type homes with units in clusters of four on the Roberts property northwest of Owasso Boulevard and Western Avenues. We had discussed this concept previously for which The they had a proto-type completed in the S housin e and erevenue development would require R-2 zoning, g bonds, and tax increment support as well. Given this kind of density, it appears that access to oins on tthe curve extension of Western Avenue, where it j with South Owasso boulevard would be necessary. Here, the Grauel property lies between the roadways and the Roberts property. The Grauel's apparently do not wish to sell inasmuch as they are an elderly couple, desiring to remain in their home as long as they can. (A1 Grauel's father and mother) . Their question is whether or not they can develop this laWe for this use W1 theu la d were tto berd velopedpwith. normal suggested that if that could be single family size lots (at R-1 density) possible, but if the higher density is needed, it's access throu h the Grauel property would appear to be essential. 9 We noted that sometimes in c ls cannotf besdevel ped �except these somewhat isolated par in conjunction with contiguous properties. Clemens/Slavick (228-0106) Mr. Clemens and Marie Slavick ons the Busse prope ty Sdownlon of their type of development Larpenteur Avenue. We talked about the density and design criteria and that fact that this property is indicated as a medium residential on the Comprehensive Plan, meaning The approximately 10 units per acre (R-6 townhouses only). Y are exploring that property as well as the contiguous property to the east owned by the Linders. These properties would total 7.1 acres of which approximately 3.2 is Planning Office Hours � Howard Dahlgren July 20, 1988 3. • � Page � 2 buildable. The northerly portion of these lots is a ponding area. They discussed the potential need and desirability of this type of housing with Craig Waldron, who notes that such housing would likely find a market in Roseville inasmuch as the majority of the housing stock is in the form of single family homes and apartments (with many having been converted to condos). We also briefly reviewed other potential sites in the city, where this type of housing could be accommodated in accordance with the city's Comprehensive Land Use Plan. Gregory �332-5544� Arnie Gregory was in with Dan Hunt, realtor, and Harry Olsen, architect, regarding consideration of design changes for his project on the Reiling project north of city hall. Bob Bierscheid was also with us to review park implications. Bob Bierscheid furnished each of us with a preliminary budget for costs for park improvements if the work were to be contracted to outside parties. Craig Waldron reviewed a timing program for processing of this application including an EAW (Environmental Assessment Worksheet) which will be prepared by a consultant employed by Mr. Gregory. He also noted that the landscaping budget for this project would be $225,000. We then reviewed some design changes which included the reduction in size of the shopping center. It was noted that a request to consider a roadway from the interior roadway system �o Woodhill was requested at the Council meeting. We suggested that purposely diverting traffic from Lexington to Woodhill is not in the community interest. We suggested, however, by moving the main entrance to the site further south, between the shopping area and residential, access to the center can be gained directly to the project which is advantageous to the economic viability of the center and reduces traffic movemen�s on Lexington. This, in effect, allows for direct access from the residential unit to the shopping center without going out into the public street. �nTe did an overlay showing how this would work, and Mr. Gregory seemed to feel this would be a helpful design consideration. Karl Keel agreed that the traffic movements would be enhanced, and that an additional entrance to the center directly off of Lexington would be appropriate at approximately mid-point on the center. With respect to the County Road C-2 exit access, we suggest that the access at that end of the development be directly to Lexington Avenue but that the dedication to C-2 be Planning Office Hours � Howard Dahlgren July 20, 1988 4. • 5. u �� Page � 3 required so that if, at some time in the future the city would desire an extension of C-2, this could be done. Thus, there could be a decision to not build C-2 for the foreseeable future, but that if, at some point in time it is desired by the residential neighborhood (and it should be) it could be completed without the city having to condemn property. Casci (631-2991,� Mark Casci, Gene Casci, Gordon Schmidt, and Mark Finneman, were in to review the development proposal for the Casci property south of County Road C. Karl Keel reviewed the drainage requirements which have not been technically sati�fied at this time. They noted that the problem with the contiguous properties draining directly onto their site as of five years ago. We suggested that this is a matter they should deal with directly with the property owners. It appears that the Watershed district is requiring one hundred year flood runoff at the undeveloped rate, being as the land is being cleared. In this case, the design of the site could be affected because of the need for greater ponding area capacity. We suggested that they work diligently to get the drainage solution fixed prior to any further review by the City Council or Planning Commission. We also discussed materials noting that the ordinance for this type of use requires brick or equal. We suggested that they prepare drawings showing exactly what materials are to be used where. They noted the desire to use a preformed concrete brick ir� part of the development, principally in the interior courts created by the series of buildings on the southerly part of the site. We suggested that they bring samples of the material, inasmuch as this is an important element of this de�ign proposal. In view of the work that has to be done (particularly with respect to drainage) we agreed that it would be best if they were to submit a letter immediately to the City Manager requesting their item be delayed from the Council agenda until such a time that they are ready and prepared. Kusmus (922-3226� John i�usmus of KK Design was in with Bob Mikulak of the Rapid Oil Change Company to discuss modifications to their facility at the northwest corner of Lexington and Roselawn. This building has three bays, one of which is a drive through with 1.8 ft. of open area at the back for exiting. Contiguous to the 18 ft. is a required 10 ft. landscaped area providing a buffer to the apartment development on the Planning Office Hours e Howard Dahlgren July 20, 1988 6. Page � 4 contiguous lots. They wanted to convert the two other bays into drive through facilities as well (drive through meaning a garage door on both ends of the bay), and to increase the 18 ft. of turning depth to 25 ft. This would leave only three feet for the buffer strip. We suggested they work directly with the contiguous owner on an acceptable design, but that the buffer strip should not be less then 5 ft. They also intend to remodel the building, completely covering it with Dryvit, which is a form of stucco material. The building on this site could use some improvement, and remodeling the buildings will likely be an asset. The handling of the 10 ft. setback, however, has to be done very carefully to make sure that it is going to do the job. We suggested that any fencing material used would have to be two inch material, and not your ty�ical residential "board fence". If they achieve some agreement with the neighbors, this would hav�e to be processed as a regular variance. Anderson (635-2588,� Ka�l Keel reviewe.d this proposal with Mr. Anderson who desires to build �� new well to use for irrigating purposes. � He has an existincl well for which he now uses, but his well man tells him it would be cheaper to drill a new we11 then to repair th� exi:�ting well. Mr. Keel suggested that he write a lett�r to �he Council pointing out his concerns, and the need for the well and requesting permission to drill a new well. � 7. Cox (647-OQ01� Rick Cox was in with his mother-in-law, Marian Hansen, who owns a strip o� land that goes from Lake Owasso, across to Lakeview. This a 1.6 acre tract of land. Due to the action of the Reiling plat to the north, they assumed that �the property an �he Lakeshore wi11 not be buildable, they therefor proposed to add that property to a lot which will be on the west side of Victoria. This woul.d praduce a lot of 152 ft. (west of Victoria) and a 410 ft. depth lot occupied by Marian Hansens home, fronting on Lakeview. Mr. Keel determined that no additional dedication would be required on Lakeview because it was recently improved, thaugh it was a less than 60 ft. wide street. Additional dedication off of Victoria, how�ver, would be required. �ne of the reasons they propose to divide the land now is because the property is larger than one acre it is being assessed on a unit basis for street improvements. If they divide the land, it would be assessed as individual lots. Mr. Keel noted by looking at the assessments on the topal .' • � • • n L.J Planning nffice Hours Howard Dahlgren July 20, 1988 � 9. maps that the property down below the land above (to the preserving the view. We right to restrict the height she so desired. Tramm (633-1760� Page � S on Victoria is about 60 ft. west). She is concerned about noted that she would have the og the house on the new lot is Marlin Tramm owns a company known as Mardon Homes, Inc. He proposed to develop several single family lots off County Road B, westerly of Victoria. He has been in to discuss this many times and has had several meetings with the neighbors, who do not wish to participate in the development of these public cul de sacs to serve this area. His current proposal involves a parcel 134.76 ft. x 323.47 ft., plus a land lot parcel that he has purchased tax forfeit which measures 60 x 100 ft. Total square £ootage is thus 49,800 sq. ft. Dividing this by 11,000 sq. ft. per unit (R-1 density) = 4.3 units. Thixs we advise that he could develop the land into four single family lots, one of which could be occupied by the existing home. We suggested that a rezoning in this area from R-1 to R-2, if opposed by the neighbors, is not likely to occur. He has a parcel to the north of him on which he notes there is a$250,000 house. The owner of that property apparently objects to more intensive development to the south. It would appear that with the additional land he has now acquYred, that four single family lots could be placed on this property. Hawever, it wouid be done with a private street which would require a variance to the PUD requirement of a minimum of 2 acres . Iiopefull� he cari get support from the neighbors for this proposal, if it is done a single family density basis. Ta�lor (339-6122 ) Jerry Taylor is with Villa Park Senior Citizens Project, and was in to discuss a landscape plan that was evolved on the site with a meeting we had with �arl Zeckbauer to resolve the landsc�pe question at the northeast corner af the site which was contiguous to the west side of Carls propert�. The landscaping agreed upon has been done except for the construction of the fence. Mr. Taylor notes �hat Ms. Zink is satisfi�cl with the landscaping as it is, and therefor�e, are they requ�.red ta build the fence? We suggested that they inform Janet Zink that she has the right to have the fence if she so desires, but that if she does not desire the fence, there is no point in the city requirement for it to be bui1�. We suggested that Mr. Taylor get a written statement from Ms. Zink, regarding her desires, but with the L.J Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlqren � July 20, 1988 � � Page � 6 knowledge that the fence had Taelorgnotedufurther, SthatdMse built if she wants it. Mr. y Zink is very solicitous oi some of the occupants of the senior citizens facility, and apparently has a very positive view about "her neighbors". � � � 2� 3� 4� � 5 K � � � 2' � 3 � 4 � �.� RO�SEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS '�• Z� Sb DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN ' � � . �;r"` �*---•�'----�'!. p M /� a +�j Q.,. r .� b�. •�f �r. �/1 � ��1 wi� � P1 M. 1 i � °� (p � II � 2� 13 a, !4 ;� 15 16µ � 17 �� 18s � 19 � 20 '� :� ... � L_7 . � , � July 20, 1988 • �J L_J TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgr�en SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. �ioses �829-3434) July 14, 1988 Terry Moses has been looking again at thP possibility o� acquircing the houses in the Bolstead Addition �east of Pavilion Place. We noted that the Couz�cil's policy wi�h r�spect to such acquisition and redevelopment of the land isn't an overwhelming majority of the owners that must be in favor. Th�re are 22 houses in the subdivisian, and it appears that they may have eighteen in favor at this time. We discussed the traffic concerns, and that any developmen� proposal would have to be accom�anied by extensive and accurate trafffc da�ta. Our concexn is for the traffic impact ora the neighborhood to �hs nozt� and west. �4ccess to the site would have to include acc��s of� of America Streei which involves Pavi].ion Place. We are a�l aware that Pavilion Plac� is c�arrently in Chapter lI, and th�at the court i$ waiting for the owners (� New YorD� Partnership) to come up a wfth a re-organization plan acceptable to the court. It is obviou� that if a development is to 4ccur ea�terly �f PaviYion Place tt�a� it has to be done in conjunction wi�h Paviiion Place inasmuch gs the�r c�ould be l�ft a 100 ft. strip of lar�d whieh currently function� a� th� bu�fer strip between the Pavilion Pl�ce structure and the re�ident3al ar�a to the east (Holeteade Additionj. Mr. Moa�s and others will be t�lking wi�h Mr. Waldron regarding scheduling af a potential review at a wtork se��ior�, �nd possible implications o� city involvem�nt. Sharon Herg was in wi�h Jim Stimmler i'rom K�aus-�nd�rson, and I� rry �rd4s who is the local manager for the Tantarb organization, owners af the Loehmann's Plaza S��pping Center. Sharon �erg re�resen�s an organization that proposes to k�uild a short �erm child care center i� Lohmann's Plaza, They have an ex�sting child care Pacility operating in Ridge Squ�re at Ridgedale ffor the past two yearsj . Th�y propos� a capacity o� 60 children up to 5 hours with about 3,100 sq, ft. of space� W� reviewed proceciures and past president in a previously approved child care Planning O�fice Hours Howard Dahlgren � July 14, 1988 facility in the vicinity Square. � � of the �yerlys Page # 2 store at Rosedale She noted that the charge� are $2.75 per hour for the first child, and $1.75 per hour for �he second child. She noted to, that children under two will not be cared for, and that the state requirements ar� a staff ratio of 1 to 7 for children between 2 anca �� and 1 staff person per 10 children cared for between t2�e ages of 2's and 10. It appears that the proposa3 c�n �e adequa�ely handZed in the center as pr�pos�d. 3. �pt 1 (450--035�1 Mark �ell is a part�ner in at� elec-trical� campar�y that ep�ecialize� in commer�ia]. electric work �nc� low voltage �i.re ala�rm and security ir�stallations o He owns a lo� west oi Rice Stre+et with 90 it. of f�rontage and a depth of 230 it. T'his �arc�i is �oned sin�le family as are th� �con�iguou�g �inc�l� family lota to �he north and south. iie prc�po$es to build 8 six unit s�art��nt building on th� site. We suc�ga��ed �,h�t und�� thc�g� circum�t�ances, it may b� appropria�� to conai�l�r a duplex c�n �� site inasmuch aa tk�e city regards them a� n�� bc�inr� a�o�t zominq i, � th�re i� gen�ral. concurr�nce i.n th� n�ir�t�borhaod as to it � s apFropri�tene�s. We r�vi�wed the prvc�dure� �or �ur�uing ��is idea, emphasiZ3t�g th� importance oi the n�ighbar�te��ci su�par�, �nti �r�par�tion Por �ppropri�te davalopm�nt dr��aings. He �gr�ed �t�at h� woul.d d�op the six unit apartm�nt building a�a�d lik�ly �purau� the duplex ap�ro�ch. J'im Txap�p w�� in with Jim �r�nc�e to rewiew th�ir pro�p�ct� with resp�ct �� tht� °iCleanco" siCc� �� the ncarthw�� coacner c�P �ount� Road C2 anci Paxtriclgc� Road. We not�dl ti�� meri� of ��x�ng dc��r� all of the exi��,ing structure� ��d �t�rt�n� over. W� noted t�e impo�rtance a� s ca�efully �anceivad d�vQlop��n� p1�n tt►mt the� City Cc�uncil car, �'ind a da,�ir�ble aci�it�on to th� ar�a. We suggested tha� ff w� �t�rt ov�� on t�� sii�m �with �11 nsw devc�lopmentsa gh�n, the it�m�s �+sft �ndQne from pravi�us �p�rovele will b� irrelev�tnt. W� sugg�s��d ��rc�v��, th�t a► Bu►dg�� T�u�ic 12ent�1 site ar�d e Cl�ataco c�r w��h �re a�ot tk�� e�� inc�rAd�.�nt� for �chieving more d�si.ral�le dovolopment. Graic� r��►ie�ed �he implic�tis�ns oi t�ax incr�m�n�, but again stress�d �h� importa�a�e of the deveiopment bQing af sufFiciQ�t q�ality �nd ecale to bQ higialy desir�ble to th� cit�►. we al�� reviewad �l�e status o� the garb�� t�uck operator, which �as tu�ned a�wn k�► �he city aver a year ago. Jim notes th�t they continu� to do t�ruc}c r�pair a� th� si�e, but do not s�ll new or used truck eguipmer�� on the eite. , � � � Planning Office �Hours Haward Dahlgren July 14, 1988 5, M�ahaels (633-1911) Pag� # 3 Jim Nlicha�l� has purchased a lot nortY� of �ounty Road B2 whici� extends ba�Dc to the potential a.lignment to S�x�ant. The se�lc�� here wa� one of thos�e persans Qbjecting to th� extension of Sextant easterly from Dale Str�et whic�i was review�d last. y�e�,r by the Plann�ng Commission and CQuncil. At thst time� 9n�ugh gersons were o�posed to th�e �extant �venue exten�fon �ha�t ::hm f mprovemer�t wa� r�ot oxdered . ��m n��r propn��s to buy this lot and divi+de it �it's � vacar►� lat) leavinq an� l�t fr�nting osn �2 �r�d thm ot�s�r �ronti�c� on �i�e po�enti�l extansian of SQxt�r�C A�anu�. i�g nat�� tha� t�a�r�► a�� s�uch lots no�� of the S�xtant ]��r€�nue �xt�rnsipn, alI �t whiah �►arQ ptatted �wa aut�.at�, t�us, ir� thig c��e, an ou�l�t mray %e a��a�ropriat� . �� sug�e�t0d � hc�wev�rr, �l��t �t w�uld b� l��t�r i i Sextant cs��ld �a€� buii� as � part o! thi� d��lop�n�n� �a�ra�p��al �� that �11 tt�esc� let�, ir�clud�ng �k��+ lat ,�o �x°mp�a�ea �►ould ha�«�� fro��ge� on z� public �trc�a�. �i� r��y prr�e�e� w�t.� �h� �o� c��visiot�, �t which �t�.�c�, oi� caur��, th� S�x�snt Avenu� �x��r��f�on wo�ld k�c� can��.ric�r�c� ��i� �� a pcator��l. � � .: •.. . <��.�+��j� �e� �urg ia �itt� '�°ho�pe E�r�th��s �c��lt�r, a�cl wa� i�a a��h �rr I�ya�r� (�324�1312j who i� ��a� o+�nar �� a kr�p+��aid�l p��c�� e�t ��r�� ar��,��t�,nc� �f� 3�, ��5 �q. f�. t�o��r of t1�� Tea�p �eop��rtYR �toich iot�+��1�► �c�e�m�d��e�c1 �� ai� g�� t��tior� �t Cht� nort�ea�� cc�r�a� Q� Old �ifgt�r��y � enci Co��ty �e�� G2. ��a�► �ho+�a�d t�� c�ra��r��# �i�v�di�g �4�r. Ryans ��s� �.a�+to t�r�e� �ins�l� �a�ta�� a�s. �� aviQw€�d the c�a�p�c�has��vc� pl�n r�%icl� �t�c�� w �ty�n� �arQ;p�r�t� a�r� �h� i'raPP Ara�pe�r�y �� b��i��$� �a�o��t� fQr th� �u�u��. �� r�v�ia�a+�d tt�c�a px�viou� a��l ic��ian ��ar � nar� €�erv�� tat�,�arw on �h€� e�t�A �h� r�Qic�t�bo�t�c��l cca��rr►� �lac�ut �h�►� d�v��o�m+�n�, t�� u��tec� ac�ain, t��►� �h� �ac��st ��pro�ri�� u�€� hQ�r� would �� c�r thc� two �aropo�t�as �ca i�a �Qmb�,r��d, �n� t�a a��co��oc�� a mul�i- t�mily ��u�,�nc� d�v��op�en�, w��c� r�ou�s� 1�kc�Iy t�a �c�me �o� o� towntrau��ng, Tta+�yr �rr� gning ta pur��ie� �k�� ok�j��tiv� ��rrth�r. ,. i • •� i i i ' . . � •.. � Mikt� �c�dqar'e iB � lacal� m��a�gar af th� Ryc��r �'�°e�ci� R�r��l Ccampa��+ here i t� Ras�v i� l� . Th��r wo r+� �tndc�� kt�� i�pre�s �c�n th�t thmy did trot own ��m�ll p�rc+�l �� l�r►�3 khe� �a�ar�tc�� t�€�fac clev�lopmont sit� fram ti�Q s�e�vica ro�d on th+a w�s� aide o� 3�W. �i� iarouqh� in �.�g�l da�uraent� th�t ncw e�fl�irm �h�t �`��t that they ne�w awn �.hi� pa�c�l. w� coni'irme� th�� i� th�� aaxcel w��s a ��rt uf th� leg�1 d�esc�ip�ion �f tt�a� �s�ri�� s�tc� at ths ti�r�a the specisl use pc�rmiL �►�s i�sued gor �he �tydgr Truck Ren�al CJ � �J Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren July 14, 1988 Page # 4 operation, that �hey c�uld expand into �he site. Th�� hava need �or additional parking $pace. We noted the requiremex�t that the�r additfonal area be finiahed with aephalt with cancr�te curb� �nd grags around the periphery and same landscaping. t��. Rodgers agre�d ta have such a pYan prc�p�rec�. 6�e a�so diecuas�d the signage cL�i.teri� �ox the site now that the property i� contfguous to �t�� fxeewa� fran�age raad. Thf� allaws fox the e3.gn �o be higher r�nd �►i�h � iarg�x ar�a the� ttr� previous sfgn whicl� is ba��d ar� it',� �rs�ntage on Long T�a�� Ftoad. Ric}� wi�l b� checking t�e rQ�ard r�gardinc� t�e h�ndlinq af �rie orfginel spe�ai�al u�e p+�rm,��t �nd f.t °� logsl des�r�tption. I� �rouldl app�az� t.��t t�ae �xp�n�ion 3,n �o thi�e �m�11 g�ar�c�l �aQt�ld �ot requf�ce an amertd��rrt to th� sp�aial u�� pet-mit. �im t?o��ch� from �t��-�on �9�tr�, fr�c. , d�ei�r► k�uild g�n��al eontractoc raas �n ta ��k ta st�� b�u� �h� �o�ei�bl� �r��sion �� th� �e�� P�pa�c k►v��d�ng at �080 Lang �ak+� itoac�. �'h� �� ie z�n�ci i�� and ��+�1��r cu�r�n�l�r �� $�A,t�00 �qvar� laot buil�fng on th� ��. 8e�� fs �ar��a��i�g �dd,�� O,Od?0 ��u�� e�o� �►dd��Ar� on t?�e� �a�� .d� �� t#��ir ��i�t�n�g t��a�ldi�ng. �'ot�� h� �it� �p��rs �o �� sp�7 �crQ�, �t��`� r��vi��o�� -1 d��r��t ��qtiria^��asa�;ts �n�Iu+�inc� �� ra�� t�an, �r�d �a�rD��r�+g. �r. �o�si�t�� w�li bc� ��vi�winc� c�t� ��r�clmrd� t�n� d��tlapin� � ��,i��c ��n �e�c �h� ��cpsn�ion. �t0 ' y � a�l ' � 17 �4 ~ '! ° � � � � � � 7 �� = a� � Ap � a2 =' �� '� 0a �: a� : �� •� �� « e� ; 20 , � � 3 4 � �L 1 ytl _ _ „ �..._. . . .� . . ''" ,;� y=� � 2 •7 � `I �ifs��n t.� ,��g ��; u �S� �v.w..t .'� � ... r�s � � �.. � �� , . 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In 1976 he purchased a square shape piece of land 2Z acres in size which abuts his rear lot line and is contiguous to a z dedicated right-of-way (Kent Street) on the west side of the property. His side of the right-of-way has not been dedicated. He wants to put a six foot high fence on this westerly property line, which will ultimately become the center of Kent street (and his 30 ft. is dedicated). The purpose of the fence, according to him, is to prevent children from walking through his property. We informed him that the ordinance allows a 4 ft. fence anywhere on your property, and a six foot fence anywhere on your property except within 30 ft. of a public right-of-way. Thus, if he wants to put up a six foot fence he can set it back thirty feet from Kent Street (as dedicated), or he can put a 4 ft. fence on the property line. He also informed us regarding the dangers of tetanus, and that there is a old barb wire fence contiguous to the southwest corner of the site, running thence westerly and southerly. We noted that if you put up a six foot fence that this would force children to go around or through the barb wire fence, and was this his intent. He inquired about a variance, though it appeared there is no hardship here that would merit a variance. He said that about 30 ft. of the fence was already done, and he concluded that his best aption was to build a 4 ft. fence within the ordinan:ce requirements. 2. 0'Meara (633-0246� Barry O'Meara informed us that h�� now has an agreement with Union Bank and Trust Company (312 Central Avenue, Minneapolis) to purchase the existing development and to compl�te the development, west of Lexington, and south of the trailer park site. He was in to ascertair, procedures, permits, and requirements, particularly as it relates to the completion of the • � � • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren July 6, 1988 C-� Page # 2 existing structure. Gordy Beseth was present as well as Jon Nisja. We concluded that a registered architect would not be necessary to re-sign the plans for the existing building, though there seems to be some change to the interior layout from the original plans that were submitted (by a registered architect). It appears that there are no asbuilts as to the location of the utilities that were installed in the partially constructed private driveway. Mr. 0'Meara will obtain this information from private contractors, or will dig up par�s of it with a backhoe to determine the location. Building permits will be required for the completion of the existing building, where about 90� of two units are done, and about 60% of two others are done. None of these units have been sold. The existing building divided into four units will be marketed as "Condo" units. We agreed that it would be appropriate to conduct a walk through inspection with Gordy, Karl Keel (Assistant Engineer), and Jan Nisja on Friday morning at 8:OOam. Later there will be evolution of designs for an amended PUD for the completion of the project. We noted that if the project were to be completed as originally proposed, that new hearings would not be necessary. However, Mr. O'Meara has proposed to develop a different form of townhousing for the remainder of the site, which would be subject to a amended PUD process. 3. Walsh (484-8426� Bob Walsh has a large residential lot consisting of 170.48 ft. of frontage on the west side of Fairview with a depth of 240.00 ft. There was a house at the center of this property which has burned down and there exists a very small house on the northwest corner of the site which Mr. Walsh estimated to be 24 ft. x 24 ft. He proposes to divide the land and demolish thP small house, and thus make two single family lots available for development, each with frontage of 85 ft. Under these conditions it appears that there is no problem with respect to this division. 4. Commers (,633-6312) Danny Commers, who is frequently a partner with Paul Klodt, was in to inform us that they have a new user for 50,OOQ sq. ft. of distribution center facilities and offices for the remaining building to built on the east side of Patton Road. This site has been platted and variance issued so as to combine parking with the existing structure to the south. He noted further that his first building is now full (�0,000 sq. ft.) and the second building has over 60,000 sq. ft. of leases signed out of a total of 80,000 sq. ft. He noted further that they are still working on buying additional land for Williams Pipeline who have decided LJ � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren July 6, 1988 Page # 3 to hold on the disposition of any properties in this area for the time being. 5. Anderson (484-0437) Carl Anderson lives in a single family house east of Lexington, south of County Road C2, and was in to discuss ramifications of the potential completion of County Road C2 on the west side of Lexington, which, of course, would be north of the Reiling property proposal currently being considered by the Planning Commission and Council. He felt that not completing such thoroughfares tends to reduce traffic. We noted that you could cut off any thoroughfare in any town and the traffic would reroute itself through the nei�hborhood, which is why we have tho�oughfares going around a neighborhood rather than through. We explained �that under the Ramsey County Road System and due to the governments ability �o build roadways on section lines� that this normally produces a� mile grid system both north and south, and that is why we have suck� streets as Snelling, Lexington, Victoria, Fairview, Western, and Rice Street, and why we have such east/west streets as County A, A2 , B, B2 , etc . a7.1 the way up to J in Ramsey Coun.ty. inle agreed that the �ity may elect not to complete various portions of such a systent, bu� that in general the system has worked quite well on the � mile grid basis. 6. Brawn (641-�3051 Dan Br�wn �ives at 944 Parker, and he proposes to add a car pc►rt on the side of his garage which is 13.4 ft. from the side lot line. Building the car port 10 �t. 10" caide would produce a s�tback of 2 ft. 6", whereas 5 ft. is the established required setback in th�s part of the city. We suggested �hat carports in general ir� this climate have not been successful, and that most people wind up enclosing them. We suggested that inasmuch as his home has a single car garage that enlarging it to a two car garage would be likely a good investment versus tacking on a carport. We noted that under the conditions that he ha� t�at a variance to 2 ft. 6" might be appropriate if it is an adciition to the home rather than a"leax� to". He agreed to look more carefully at ri.i.s options and consider the idea of a closed garage addition, ra�iner than a carport approach. 7. Grisvold �333-1341� Bob Grisvold, attorney for Hyman Motor Freight and apparently 5 other land owners in the area was in to review their concerns regarding the city's tentative plans for the Twin Lakes Area. Their principle concern is their desire to have the rights to Planning Office Hours Page # 4 • Howard Dahlgren July 6, 1988 remain in business for as long as they like. Dave Light was with them and he explained some of the details of his report which has been sent to members of the Planning Commission in advance of the hearing next Wednesday. We explained that the plan represented what we considered to be the ultimate land use, and that the zoning that would be applied here would allow them to continue to expand as lo�g as they like. We also noted that the last four actions in this ar�a al1 consisted of requests on the part of the land owners to rezone land from Industrial to B4. These requests include Indianhead Truck Lines, Lincoln Properties on two sites, Everest Corporation r�n one site, and the Woodbridge sfte contiguous to 35W. We explained that the plan is merely to set a framework within which these changes can occur as property owners decide to sell out for higher value uses. We noted that a drawing could be prepared showing the possible condition of the land on in interim basis, indicating some of these uses remaining (as will be the case), and that the words in th� comprehensive plan that support the rezoning would clearly state that is the intent. We noted further that the City has not chased any trucker out of Rosevi],le, but �hat it has assisted financially in two cases • where truckers decided they wanted to move. One of these is the Glendenning development (where Byerlys now isj and the other the Geir Truck Line (where Woodbridge now is). We agreed also to give them copies of the B4 district as an exampl�e of the type of ordinance that may be us�d here, and to give them copies of any new drawings that we prepare preliminary to the hearing on July 13, 1988. � � I �I 2� 3� 4� 5; � 6�� 7=� 8� 9� 10 � I I � 12 --�! 13 -�t 14 " i 5 � 16 71i0 A � B � C 27W D � E � F u� G � H :,.o I � J �� K �.� � � � 2 � � 3 . �• 4 � ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNIPIG OFFICE HOURC 7.�.88 DAHLGREN �HARDLOW & UBAN I? j 18 � 19 � 20 '� I I � IZ � i3 'aj i4 :� 15 _1 16 = ' : '� 18; � 19 .'�� 20 =1 � ,� - � -� �s�o�r� � YZO A � B z� � I�f,� D [tN E � F L� G :�.o H � I crs J „:o K ..� Lo '� a ` . • July 13, 1988 � TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. McHale (924-2247) � 2. ❑ June 29, 1988 Bill McHale, with Ryan Construction Company, was in with Jim Ostowitz and Bob Schoening of the Eberhard Coampanies, Realtors. Tt�ey were in to talk about the potential redevelopment of the o1d Spartan Store�site more r�cently occupiecl by the Rainbow Food Stores, Roseville 4 Theatres and "Craft Village". There are 327,000 sq. ft. of land with 35,A00 sq. f�. of building, with all leases expirin� in January of 1990. They are looking at the possibility of expar►ding the building with possibly the same tenants, with expansion for the �tainbow and the Theatres complex. The3r vexy preliminary plans indicated a separa�e pad in the �autheast corner oi the site which we suggested would be better if lef� out, giving better visibilit� to the princi.pal struature, which they propose to expand '�o tt�� south. Six spaces per thousand would still be retaineci for the Rainbow operation, with 5 spaces per thousand for the rema�.nder. We discussed the problems of the extreme change in el�vation from the north enc� af the site to the south. They are going to consider alfiernative plans, and wil� p�x�sue continued leasing efEorts. They wi.�.l he bac}c later with more preci�e pr�o�asals. Jet�s��t (774-1712I Dale Jensen is with ALJ Enterprises, Inc. whQ run a fuxni�ure �tore kr�own as "Options Furniture". Th�y propose using the old MGM Lic�uor stor� building �;tor� �or a furniture store of abo�t 10,0oQ sq. ft. Tfiey have 9,000 sc�. ft. in West St. Paul Mendota Heiqhts Road and La�ayQtte freeway, and a gallery store in Whits Bear Laks. Th�y did have a store at TH 36 �nd 61 which has now b�en taken oaer for a� Menards expansi.on. They sp�cialize in mid to uppgr range furniture. This use is p�rmitted in a B�-4 District and wauld be an �.dea1 us� for the site as the �urniture store taDtes up rel�tively lit�le parkinq. ��ey talked abaut �u�ting a light on the existing sign po�t C� L_. J u Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 29, 1988 3. 4. 5. Page # 2 in which we suggested there could be a glare problem. We suggested that they light the building from the ground if they chose to light it. We noted that they could use the existing pylon sign. The proposed signage drawing they had for the building conformed to the sign regulations. This use would appear to be appropriate utilizing the existing struc�ure as is, and would not require an amendment to the PUD. Tramm t&33-1760� Marvi� Tramm was in to review a�roposed development of a site westerly of the northwest corner of Victoria and Coun�y Ra�d 8. He announced there i.s a pr�posed public auction for the 60 x 105 ft. parcel contiquous to the garcel he is �orking witla for development. We suggested hc� should see if he could get that parcel first and then consid�r changes in his development proposal. We noted that his prewious proposai would h�ve requfred r�zor�ing from R--1 to R-2, and that may }ae appropriake bassd �an his �omments at neigh.barhood moetinq� in the pas� year. W� suggesk�d tha�t he consider retaining th� land at R-1 clensity, and dair►g a pot�nti�al private r�ac1 acco�s. Tt�g elem�nt� are similar �o tha a�hich was done by Jim Cese� Partt��r south on i�ictoria e r� . Richa�d Webb was in r�ith Paul Matson of Arvid Ellness ofg%c� to r�view the exterior design o� ttt�ir propos�d �enior cigi�ens pro jec't on �he olc� �c�asso S�hool. s�t�r. Ths�y s�howed u� a v��y iin�� perspective dra�ing wt�ich 3ncor�aoxated the ct�anges we've bc��n discus�sir�g the ia�t gew w�eks. T1�� d�:�a�wi�g wa� vmry at�x��Ctivo, incor�aorati.ng many gf the classical detai�s af '"G�orgian, Co].oni�l architecture"� �h�y h�ve add�d brick caxterior ta all th� fourtd�ti�ns, with �h� �xtan�iv� u�e af d�rm�rs in th� gable pit�h�d roaf sys�em. �h�y noted th�t tho rentaY rat� is �pproximatg�y $51.00 per day which is substantially ch��spor than nurscirig horn� carQ, thou�gh more expensive th�n "s�nior citiz�ns" a�artmQnts. �hoy �ill be continuing with d�ve�.opmen� drawings �reliminary to canstructior►, �� .� . . �� Tim Nelson was in with �ob I�avidson, from �he Everast GrQu�, alcang w�.�h Mark 9ri11, R�altor, and Bob Rucl�er and Rod Si11 �rom the T�.le Shop. We discussed their propos�d re�oning of the northeast corner of Fairvi�w and County Road C whe�e they propose to locate the Tile Shop on the west end of the Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren June 29, 1988 6. � � 7� � Page # 3 site. We noted that we had proposed, to the City Planning Commission and Council, the option of requiring additional parking at such time as it may be needed and could b� considered. Bob Rucher and Rod Sill noted that their Bloomington store has 12 parking spaces which they find adequate. Parts of the building will remain occupied as office/service; thus for a period of time, additional parking is not likely to be needed. Paul Pink was in to disc�rss remodeiing and expansion of the Pavilion Shopping Center, which is now in Chapter il Bankruptcy. He inFormed us �hat the owner� are considering expanding the �enter inasmuch its principal problem appears to b� lack of an anchor. The Nealth club is doing �aell, and the theatres are doing v�ry well. He �h�wed �s some prelia�inar� drawings indicating the possibility of a twa �eve1 ramp, three level ramp in additian to tt�e build�ng on th� wast or south si�de. H� noted an ex��ting 111,000 Bq. ft. of �groas leasabi�e area with G49 g�arkfnc� stall�s� We rQviewod thQ imparta�ce of r�o� lbuf lding A ramp to d�mir�ish the exposure of �he center (visibility). mhe impact c�f the neighbors to th� north was discussed $nd is sugq�st�d thst the dovelopment bo cionQ in � m�nn�r to minimize this �mpact. W@ also rQ�i�wedl fihQ po$sibili�y o� �xp�an�ion t4 tl�Q ea�st inasmuch as ther� is 100 �t. o� prcapertyr totally unused an the east side of the buxlding. Thif� wouid, s�f course, involve th� acs�ui�ition of th� residences in thi� ere�, which is a program wh�ch could b� undert�ken or�ly if thar�► �,s a"ou�ra,ah@lming r��jority�� of thfl r�sidents who wish tv undertake such a program. Mr. �inlc will �continug to �ook a� various oPti�n� with �is c�i@nts �nd c�at b��k t� the �ity a� th�y consider various �ltern��ive d�ci�ions. John McClrare of t,�oo�iiaridge �roper�i�s, was in with Pete Car�son and Dan LatQnegger, a Traf�ic Consultant from 8artan A�h�on. Thc�y not�d their marketing ef�orts t�o date hav� pr4duc�d the strong �aassibilit�r that th��e may b�a strong individual usex� an the sitm b�gin�aing with tt�� possibi3ity of up to � 17 acre tract on tt�@ south end. ThQ PUD that was approved was conservativc� in �his res�aect, and did not g�Qge�se a d�velopm�nt b� a bitiglQ oGuup�nt. W� notQd that �d j ustm�onts to the PU� coul.d be cons3 i��red i f there� �.s gr�atex� value and higher quality, a�,�� l,ong as ad�q��tte facilities �or parking were provid�d. It w�s na�ed that the B-4 zone has nc+ h�igiht limitation and no maximum floor are� • Planning Office Hours Howard D�hlgren June 29, 1988 Page # 4 ratio. We suggested that it wotald be difficult to amend the PUD now inasmuch as there is no specific development proposal. We suggested, however, tYsat the development agreement miqht be amended to include the possibility of such uses, agreeing that in the event of a major �change, a revised PUD might have to bz processed. Mr. Latenegger noted that recent data relating ta pollution standards suggest that by 1991, when insp�ctions of Minnesota begin, that the pollution could be reduced by 25- �p$, Neilson nQted that results of the new natfonal t�afiic study resu�.ting in the new mar�ual of parking standards, i.ndicated reduced paxking ciensity for some busine�s uses, which wauld ��ment of ne� indi��ctna�ource concarn was possible devel p p�ermit requirements tha� may ��ult rQv�d,� andp��di.t devel.opment. 'The development pl�n as apP now exists, includes 623,000 sq. f�. of �loos space made up of a cornbination of of�ic�/service, and o��i�e uses, a. �s *'� $o.} t332-22�,2�_ B�ruce ��rl�ont (nephew of Curt Carlson) is with Nortl�ca, wi�s� � hae purchas�ed the old PC� building at th�a na�rth�as� c�rn�r o� C4unty F�oad ��2 �nd Prior. Thi� bui�dli�g t��s 6�, 00� sq. ft. and was built in 1971 on a p.4 acro �it�. I� ��s purchssed by EvQnson in 1980, and con�i�t� of Pour flon��, x°ec�ti�ing 325 par�sin� spaces. '�h�y are gair�g tc� remod�l the building ta remov� tha asb��tos, �nd im�rove �ha� la�ndsc�pia�g, No pl�ns have b�en drawn to data, but C�my simply� w�nt�d to r�v�.ew tM� ci�y's r�qyirQmQn�s, �ol��i�s, aa�d c��n�r�l di.r�ction o� de��1o�� hgi�n��Yh$ ��lic�► with r�vi��d i�he �br�dge constructi rasp�ct �o tha exp�nsinn oP b�sin��s i�, th� e��a as indicated in the Co�npr�hen�ivc� Plan• 9. � Pe�rson Jra is �urcw�i�� o��& �' �' �onside �bla �tnuml�er �of �ee�co Company, buildinc�� in Ros�vill@ �h�t w�re oric�in�ily purchas�r� from C7c�n Roberts Company. t�r. Poaar�can ��Pres�n�s th� Bc��aon Compani�s who h�ve considerabl� holdi�gs around tho ce�untry inclwding down�owr� �I�shin�ton, �aston, e�c. Me r�ot�d th�y are €amilia� with the AEW company, which also ha� considerable buildings in �,os�vill�, and Prequ�ntly work with them in various loc�tions. Mr. Pear�on is aut a� the �Miladelphia offic s► � � ��e tta�� aleaiscuss� various Ros�ville loca�ion � � �� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 29, 1988 Page # 5 development proposals and trends for the future. Mr. Waldron reviewed economic data and will iurnish additional data to him, including Chamber information as he requested. We reviewed the Twin Lakes concept with him, and he expr�ssed considerable in�erest ir� that loca�ican as well �� that of the future building the� contemplate a�rn�ng an the south si.de of �he �xtension 4E County Rc�ad B-2. �hey inciicated g�neral inter�as� and satisfactian with the Ro��ville locati�ns, notingt tha�t it is th�ir fntent to �wr� th� buildings crn the lo�g t�rm, and that considerable imProvement will bQ cont�mpla�e�i in the r�lati��ly ne�r ft�tur�a . ` J � '� �� — � _ � � � � � m � � � � � � D � � t71Q �....'.�,;:.-c r�_a.:-.za.!�"f .� ----_- --- - � - - \� •. 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' � [ i"" +.�.. { I+ �:` : t ` � � .,� ll_��_'� � � • sartw�+nsal ..w �Y.`ar^��".�.� w r�f� .;f.�. _ ��.ioe��Y �`kr�e�:�a.J � a:.....-.-�- a �'s�iey• �rr t�- �� -'-: -- i� � 4 y� ,,, ��._�, ;� � ! , j�_�',' :''�� k� � f � ,� !� ,�� f; r- �: a� ; �, � — L �c � c� � '� � m � � E n � � � _� #� , �. L� l�� July 1, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUHJECT: PLANNING OF'FICE HOURS, 1. ��out (941-4999) i June 27, 1988 Gary Stout is a dev�loper/consultant wdrking with Bob �iagan, �rho runs Matro Pap�r Recovery, Inc. at 965 Eustis Street, $t� Paul� The latter is a waste pap�r salvaqe company w�ich cQll�ects n�w�pap�rs, cardboard, etc. which is then sorted, baled, and s��livered ta ugers by truck. They inform us that tho nQw W�stgatQ da�v�lopm@nt on the part of the St. Paul Port Authorit� i� ecquiring their site, and they are ti��xo�or0 loo�C�ng for a n�w tamporary location. �hey in�o�rm us �fi��t they had an �rchi�ect prepare plans for a new building, but �hc�y t�ay proposa to u�ilize the truck t�rmira�l own�cl #ay Dt�n �ogan o� Cour�ty Ro�d C�B a location Pox � pQ�ciorl c�� two yo��s. They also ha�r� anothQr aite whic3� tl��y are l�okin� at which may bo workablo. Thay noto that t�aey ha�►� �hrc�Q sami-trector tr�rilc�rs and an� Btraigh� truck, a�ndl t�a+� Sch��i+dcr True�Cfroc� �omp�n� hae sovc�n trailere at thef�r �itQ. Th�y st�tad that the sixtaen tr�i�c�r bays on the arest �idlQ �� Cha� bull�ing �rQ �nclog+�ct, wher� the trucks would be unl�o�d€�c� by �orklift t�.ruck�. Tho papc�r is �h�n sortaci, b�ledl, anc4 pu� �n ��t�cks �or dalivory, Th��► saic� th8 ��c��a�inc� ts�rmin�l is wcall auitad to thQir noeds, end axtrc��na pr�caution� wau�d bo t�ken ta not h�ve paper �lowing ar�ur�d. 'Thay al€�o �r�nt�onod th�t thoy would propose a "R+�darood �a�nca" i�e t�� ro�t, e�though �he�r� �s some c�ua��3.on �� o axact�y �rhar� ��rat �on�� ar�uld bo ��d what �unctican �hst w�ru�d �a�v�, wt� �uggQ�ted thAt wa wc�u�d eonsult witiz th� City Attorn�y roc��rding th� usa �� i� re18t�� tc� tMo GodQ, in�smuch �►� th� ard�na�cc� ��oacs ��ar �he m�nuEactur� �t paper praducts, but docs� r�� pc�cifically ��ntion p��ar collQction �nd �alv�ga. '�he�r ��o goinc� to conaidar flnQ ot" the im�r�vements we mad� to thc� �itQ (�ncludinc� th� f`�ncc� id��) . t�a �ill al�o ]�ook at tMa e�is�inc� �itQ to ascart�a�,n moro preGi�e�y ttt� n�tu�s o� this usa. They egtimata af ��,Doo ton� peX ye��r wauld k�c� prra�o�sad � • u � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 27, 1988 2. Wilson �1-252-6262) Page # 2 Steve Wilson of the Brutger Company, was in to review revised plans with a Pope Associates Architect for tentative redevelopment of the Concordia School site, followa.ng his meeting with the neighbors. He notes the neighbors are concerned with traffic and contiguous land use, particularly on the east side backing up to the single family homes south of County Road B-2. He now proposes twenty single family "Z" lots on a cul-de-sac on the northeusterly portion of the site with town k�ouses to the west of that up to the property occupied by the school which is proposed to be given to the city. The city site would be approximately 10 acres with the building as previously discussed. The remainder of the land would be developed as three multi- family structures, with und�erground parking consisting of 241 units. Mr. Waldron noted that this is a tax increment concept, whereby �rutgers will be paying $4,000 per unit for apartments, $12,000 per unit for single family homes, and $4,500 for townhouses. Though we do not specialize in value of residential land, as a rule we use $3,500 per unit for apartment development, which is a figure generally used around the Metropolitan area. We did not review all of the numbers relating to a proposed tax increment program, though we understand the objective is to secure the building and approximately 10 acre site for the city, as informally reviewed with the Council at previous meetings. A public street is proposed which would be approximately opposite Lovell, which would proceed north of the church site to the east, hence north to County Road B-2, providing access to the townhouses and the apartments. We suggested they consider an outlet to Minnesota near the southeasterly corner of the site where access is permitted. We also talked about moving one of the apartment buildings further south and west, away from the southeasterly corner of the single family area (on the east side of the site). We suggested that a single development of townhouses, 1Faving a "space" buffer with the extension of landscaping on the east side of the site (next to the houses), might be more succes�ful than a strip of "Z" lots. Mr. Wilson thought the single family lots would be more acceptable to the neighbors. The neighbors were also concerned about traffic. We noted access to and froni the site via Dale Street should be emphasized. With �espect to �the church, Mr. Wilson noted that they are Planning Office Hours • Howard Da�.lgren Page # 3 June 27, 1988 C � 3. 4. 5. considering this point. selling, Platt 1831-2326) though no decisions have been made at M�.ke Platt was in with Tom Ruvelson, regarding the signage for their restaurant, formerl.y the Brick Oven Beansry. The signs have been installed as previously discussed, although the sign is red rather than white, and the bui3ding is gray/green and tan rather than brown. The�r noted business is picking up, though not as good as they would like. Dunekacke (337-1673) Roger Dunekacke is with the Resurrection Lutheran Church, located a�t Victoria and County I24ad D, They are relocating their sign�age and propose one on County Road D and one on Victoria west of the 50 sq, ft. allowed. Their proposal is consistent with the ordinance in size and location. Tlais i.s a 700 member church, with about 230 families and is a part of the EL�A merged Lutheran Church Synod. G_recrorv {332-5544) Arnie Gregory was back �o review the adjusted changes anc� the site plan for ixis propased development of the Reiling property north of City Hall. He has tlad a secand meeting with the neighbors and they are concerned about traffic on C-2 and the construction oi �-2 itself. They apparently de�i�e an en�rance to the site aff Woodhixl, whiciz wou.ld put it between, the VFW and back o�E th� neighborhood center. This would not be an ideal entrancesto a residential area. We noted our concern relating to thP transit�on ta the rear of th� single family lots where the two story townhouse proposed is aajacent. They have moved �these builciings back to thirty-five feet, which is five feet more than would be al].owed under the existing R-2 zoning on this side of the site. It was noted that if �he R-2 lo�ts were developed as currently zaned, there would be a to�al of forty duplex �nits. The proposed plan has fort with eight per building, with the land contiguoush as nsix lots being park. Mr. Gr�egory noted they have hired Dave Kaski to do some traffic analysis, which will be reviewed at the hearing. We noted that it is phys�c;ally possik�le to develop the land without County Road C-2, though in the long range it is obvious that the development of County Road C-2 as an east/west collec�or would be the normal thing to do and has � � � C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 270 1988 6. 7. � Page # 4 been a part of the overall plan, and is a part of the City State Aid road system. We also discussed the importance of there being a definitive decision regarding the southeasterly corner of the site where Ge�rge Reiling has had an option to develop the southeasterly 286 ft. x 286 ft. separate from the �an-Am proposal. We agreed to ca13. Mr. Reiling to inform him of our concerns regarding an accurate representa�ion of what is being proposed rather than an alte.rnative. Newbrand Lf33-1228) Pau1 Newbrand lives at 2559 Charlotte and has a sort of "lean-to" constructed on the south side of his gara.ge. This structure is about 6 ft. in width and Mr. Newbrand notes is probably on the prop�rtX line, although he is not certain. There was a camplai.nt �egarding �his structure, and Mr. NAwbranci was informe� by th� staf� it would h.ave �o be removed or he couZd apply� for a variance. It would appear that �e could attach such a sheltex on the ba�k o� his garage, though he may have to remove a portYon of a%rick wall that is about 16 inrhes high surr.ounding a fire place gri11 area which he nQ�:�s they do not us� very ofter�. Ti�e lean-to does not look ve�y well from the faront and we sugge�ted perhaps the so].ution would be to put it on the back of the garage. We noted too, that variances allowing no setback at all are r�ormally not condoned in a singl� family rasidential are�a. Range (684-2293) Jim Range was in to discuss the Cleanco building and inquired as to the possibility of tearing down the old Quonset hut only and expanding the truck wash operation. He noted �the garbage truck operation is still thexe, thaugh t�ie Special Use Per.mit allowing them to be there was denied by the City. Mr. Range noted he would be a possible partner in this proposal, and his concern was abou�t the risk. He is, therefore, visiti.�ng with the stafi to be su�e what he is doing. We suqgested that in view af the development that's the�ce, and the problems inherent in the past, with many of the improvements agreed to as conditions not having been done over some 14 years since they were first approved, buildin� onto a portion of the existing series of st�uctures would be a big mistake. We agreed the location is excellent, and the best solution would be to remove the existing haphazard collection of buildings, and redevelop the site. • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 27, 1988 9. Marshall (633-1542) Page # 5 Yale Marshall was in to discuss a change in his recently approved plat which would shorten the easterly most lot approved from 230 ft. to 127 ft. The northerly most lot approved would then change from 200 ft. in depth to 300 ft. In other words, one lot would be 127 ft. deep (the buildable portion) and the other would be 300 ft. It seems as though these lots are grossly out of proportion, and we are concerned about the ultimate disposition of the very deep lot which would be attached to his existing parcel which is now 200 ft. x 170 ft. We suggested that if he proposes to make this drastia a change in the plan, it should be reviewed by the Planning Commission and City Council, and we, as a staff, did not have the authority to make this change without �he normal review and public he�arings. Howe (484--32441 Gord� Howe was in to discuss the pot�ntial deve].opment of th�e old Hermes greenhouse site on Roselawn into 10 single � family lots. The problem is that there is a property contiguous to tY�e east which cou].d be added to development tk��reby grad�ci.ng a total of twelve lots. However Mrs. Rice, who owns the property� wants to keep the existirag house and lot in such a fashion as to make the lot lines very difficult. Tihis is caused by the retention of an �xisting garage which she wants to keep as par� of the lot on which the existing single famaly home is lacated. This is a 100 it. width lot on Ro�elawn Avenue, We agreed that a preliminary plat could be submitted with an alternative as ].ong as the tatal land co b� considered was included in the Public Hearing. Tt is not normally appropriate for one to propose a pla�ting of land unless they have a fee interest ir� �he land. That is to say an optian or p►urchase agre�ment, or fee title. Some agreement in advance, and sam� in�erest in the land fs the appropriate way to go. The bottom line is th�t a� adjustmen� in lot lines can be cansidered during the process o� review, but additional land cannot be added to a plat if the description ��s nat inciuded in the original Public Hearing notice. 10. Stap�es (3�.2-671�2050) Dav� Staple� is a project manager �or Rocky Rococo, a pizza chain. He was in with Don McCarty ot the same � organizatinn. Th�y brought in th�i� paroposal to purchase the o1d Roseville Crossing Restaurant. They propose to tear Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren June 27, 1988 � ❑ Page # 6 down the old building and build a new structure, repave most of the parking with changes in grading, adding interior catch basins, new curbing, additional landscaping and an irrigation system. The restaurant would have 96 seats and the 50 parking stalls proposed would exceed the ordinance requirements. We suggested, and they agreed, that keeping the west side of the site the same with a driveway as constructed would be appropriate. 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E -�:� �-�._:� � $ � �.. � x: --� �� '; � �, .�-- :�i.� L ll r � : � F „ � t+;; � �.-.� MINNESOTA REvtSEo W►TE � .'� : ' ..,,«... .�� .1 :.; f:��: ..� Z:R�� t r � i � � ,.� �� - - R�,-.++�w� � ��.4 y= }�s ��^`� �J f .ig .. �C__ r_r r __n.�eMsie PLANNING OFFICE HOURS t,.,, � � � �l ��`�� s ; � "� � � �� . � :r^�� -: -i , �,. �. �. i9 �d r� "... !.. _ �, It3 � t I L !2 � 13 #-, 14 � i5 �'' i6 � !7 $' ES � 19 � 20 � . � � y �' z7� �b ��.'�?, � �� ;t � ____ � . . .. ;,r, .__.z. DAHLGREN SHARDIOW S UBAN , f � June 21, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, June 15, 1988 1. Wi�son 11.-252-6262) Steve Wilson, represQnting the Brutger Company, was back to review ideas regardinq the redevelopment of the Concordia Schcol site, which the Council visited last week. Bob Sierscheid was �x°�sent, and we first review�d his perspective as to th� communf ty u�e oP t�he iauild�ings �nd approximately 10 acres of ground. Bob r�oted that the bu�.lding dosign is less lik� a schoal and more lika a recreation center. Thex� is ar� excell�nt gymna�ium th�t would t�ake a good tQ�n c�n�er, a�t rcom, community band room, fitness centQr, �tc. The schaol h�d plan»ed �or �it�e addi�ion c� a tho�tre and an �xtxa �ym, and it appoar� tha� this addit�on, too, would Eit well for communi�y use. 7Ch� addition as plenn�d was apparently 80 �o�t �ast/wc�st by 170 ��t. F�om mn o�tarior u�@ p�rspQctive, the 10 ecr�� aF g�ound mig�t be u�ad for a ggnAr8liz�d plmy �rc�a, spo�ts� � �po8aibly one ba1�Y Fi�ld, and a� tra�l through and around thc� sit� would bc� i��p�ul. In this ra��►oct, rc��en�ion of �nou�h spaca on �h� �u�t �id� e� �h� axisting at�u�tur@ wo�ld b� impartent �or accommod�ti�n �� such a t�,a�il on that �ido o� th� site. �lo �hQn looked a� th� extarna� im��t oF th� pro��rty axounci tt�e �f�+�, T. M. 3G i� cor�tigua�s on th� ��outh �Minnoso�+� st�r�� b�ing ona way a� th�� pa�n�, �omb�rr�d with thQ ramp�j , mul�ti-f�r�ily housing and tl�e ��,r� �ta�fan �ra across Dale str��at to th� w��t, a�ingl� tsmfl�r re�i�e�tial araa ko the r�o�th that would b� a��aosit� Ch� pr�po�cQd �aark �rea, �nd thera i� an c�l�mentsry gchool tca �he� north, gnr��r�l1y opposita the �xistin�g etructurQ �n� ba�l �ie�d to the� �sas�. To th� �ast is �ing].� f�mily dQv4lo�mc�nt, anel �ti�Q Mtnb�g church. It wauld ap�s�r that tt�a► ��r �idc� a� th4 n��t� half of �ha si�e wouid k�a th� most �en��tivo arc�a in t�rm� af cantiguoug land �use. In term� of circulation wo ar�reod th�t �rincipal access o�f Dalg streQt �u�� n�rth of tho church wo�al.d ba aPpro�r3.ate, sa as to al�ow trar�i� �e g�t in and ou� og �h� site prior � � � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 15, 198� x. Page # 2 to County Ro�d B-2. We suggested that the c3.rculation should extend from th� Count� Road B-2 s�de North/South to Minnesota Street, and East/West td Dale Street. A more direct penetration to the East for vehicular movement would be anticipated. In terms of land use, w� talkeci abaut the possib�lity af 2t�ro lo� line �ingle family homes Qast o� the existing school builclfnq. Mr. Wilson revi+ew�d the idea of a row of sinqle family ha�me� backing u�a �o thg c�x�sting �ingle fami�lY homes, and then m�kinc� a�ran�ition to higher c�8nsity d�v�lo�ment. We su�gg�stad tha� �his �ra� tnight b� a qu�1�tY townhau�e arQ�, anci tha� such �truc�ura� pl�ced withi� � reasonabl� di�tenco tc� tho singlc� i�ami�y home� ko ��g east, cotnbin�d with � c�ood 1�n�sc�Pinc� gr�gram, �a�g�t b� ap�ropri�tc�. �a �ugga��c�d �hat t�r. wilson contac� tl�o�a� neighbor� immmdia�toly tc� E�c�gin ta di�cus$ �witi� �h�m potc�nkial land! u�e transitior� :�olution� �t �n �a�ly s�ag�a. T�e �auth�astarly s�u�drsnt o� �thc� sit� wa�a�c� bs su+ggest€�� !or h�gh�ar d�nsit�r multi-f�mi�y housingl, lik�ly in th+� �e� o� 3�tory ��artm�sr�t s�rueturc�� ri�h und�rgr�und p��kirrg. I� �p�aears��l that dcsnsitia�, �s �Qvi�wad wow��# 3�� pQ�c�pri�tc� ��► �aka a teac incre�en�nt di�tr�+ct w�r�, s� �+� �o p�ovid� �Q� r��on�ble� mo�n� �ar �h� ci.ty ta Acq�i�� 14 a�r�s o� �raund �nd �t�a� �xi��ting �truct��. �tr. �aldron �,��1 ba rao�ti�ng w�th Mz, Wil�an ��thw�th to raview ChQ �'I�° im�lica�fon� �nd patsn�i�l� E9r. x+►i�s�n'� �rch�tc�c� txon� i�a�a As�socir►tos w�� A�so �lon�g �o mg to lba �b�� o pue�c�o� ��Q� imi��ry d�aaign conc4�ts �c�r tt�� nd us�e �olu�i�n� di�cu��ad. �ir. Wil�r�n r�otQd �h�� th� Gt��ch to thr� South�+Q�� c� CE�t� si�.Q, consi�ting o� �iva aerar�, m�y be �nt��c�s�t�� in �callirtg as ��e11. a� i� po�sib�o th�t t�+c� �cx�c�� o� thd�t �ivQ �i�ht �S� �v�ilmt�l� quackly, thoygh th�t i� r�ot c��in. W� �ugg�stc�d that i� th� chu�ch is going �4 movcz, th� invc�lv�m�n� of the e�nt��arQ si�o would �� b�t�c�r t1�a�n 8im�ly �c��ving � pArc�l �'or tt�e tutur�. Thc� possib�iity oi � n�ighborhood r�tsil �ar�t�r at tt�� loc�tian was di�c�as��cl. ��m��l scAla ca�ntor �t th�l� loc�tiQn migh� be �p�aro�ri�t� if carai'ully �.nt�grated wi�h the n�igt�borhood pl�n. �Yr. t�i�son will bo �ack with his �d�i�ors ra�:�t w�ek �� ditio„al ravic�w. =•.� � � Keith Iver�on �.3 a rePr�s�ntativa o� Al Shi,�rs Constru�tion �ompany and �raposes to put �n �additic�n on � ho�se a� the S�uth�ast corn�r of Coun�y Road B and N'�irway L�,a�e. Th� � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren Jur.e 15, 1988 � Page # 3 existing house is very smal�. being 24 x 36 feet. They propose to add a famil� room addition contiguous to the kitchen, which would apen up to the existing bree2eway. This would necessitate �xnderpinning the existing breezeway for a foundation and a garage which is on a slab. The addit�on of a family room contiguous to the ki�chen can only be c3or�e on the west side of the house which invol��s a� Foot extension into the front yard. Th� exis�ing hou�e is 28' 6" from the ric�ht-of-�way thus, a r�ew �xt�nsian wQuld b� 23' S" f�am the east side of Fairway L2ine Roade Thi� corn�r lgt onl�+ h�s 82 fs�c�t aP Pror�t�ge on Caunt�► �t�ac� e, �h� ixo�sa �ace� Wost„ and thus h�� v�ry �h�l�ow b�ck yard. It �tould �ppear th�t th� aeddition ta tho hous� in th� ia�hia� propo��d i� r��sonabia, and will do a goas� �ab in �naking ft �ag ��r�a 1 iv�b�e. �t wauld a�pc�ar� th�t �h� con$tr�ctic�n ��c�at i��to tho exi�tinc� �ideya�d (E�cin� W�sta i� �ippropriatQ. t�l�. �opko s�x�1�i�►c�d proc�duros �nd rdgul�ti�a�s r�s�srding the� h�ndl ing oP A minc�r vari�ncQ, ' � t.t �- � t • �• �. . � � Gl�n �Qt�rso� i� in ch��Q o� buildinc� anc� c�rounds �n��.nkc�r�ancc a� Mox�t�w�stQ�� l�ag�, �nd w�� in to �iiscus$ m p�ol ��ir��ry pr0�os�l on th� �a�r� o� �h� cr�l ��g� to �d� �d�li�ional ��ck,�� cQB for kl�e c��1c�g�a �Q��ae€�g, i`hQ co�1�c�Q now h�� 97� s+��de�nts, �nc� A tot�l a� 67� o� tl��e st�d�nte on c�m�u�. �€��umQ ��ny o� Ci�c��n wark, i� a�ppears� �hafi; ��r� �nd m�ac� oP t�c�t� ncacd �aQ�icl�� on ��npu�. '�h�� v�ahi��Qs ar� noa� p�rkin� �on tha �c�d�mi� �rc��, anct �►re ��au�ing c��aac��y ��bic��n� tl��ra. �'h�y ther��or� prc�p�s� t� �dc3 �so�� d��ia��rl p�rking in th4 �tudent housinc� �x�a� ( in �osQvi:llej . "�h� ;�rcr� �a�Qct�d �rou�d i�� par��ion of �ed�ditional h�using th�t was �pp�ovmd �►� ttre� C��y Counc�.� o� Ro�ov.i�lo s��Qr�� yQ�►rs ��o �o�r thQ L�ltimatc� dc�vcslopm�nt a� r�n �,�h�a�ic c�r�ta�. t�ir� Pe�tarsora w�s inc�ui�i�r�g �8 tm w��tt�c�r or not tNa�Q ��a�ces �ould ha bu�l�, ��d not �c� �urlacr� th� loG +with �spi��lt (ss r�ac�uir�dj �`or a�t�rivci o� gnc� yQa�r. W� ��tQd th�t in �hi� c�s�, tha develn��nt o� a cira�r�agca syst�r� �till be �rucinl �rtd tl�at in��lY��ion ai sucl� � sy�tem (d�no pxoparly) would tnakc� it mora logica� snr� prud�n'� �n put in �hc� cur�ing �nd tha �sph�iC righ� ew�y� �1�� oconomic� of pu�ting tha� curiuir�g Ar�ei asp�Alt in l��t�r a�c� nn� goa�, and t�o� wotaid b� moti�y ah�ad to cio �he �ob pro�e�rly. �tr. P��r�4n �graad ��d �t�t�d that h%s recommend�at�,on to thA boarc3 wa� �M� ��m�. � W� also talked about the cc�opEr�ation that is oGcur�ing with the Parks �nd R�cre�ticar� Departm�n� and th� Collage in the Planning Office Hours Page # 4 • Howard Dahlgren June 15, 19�8 use of their baseball field and the City�s softball fields. Mr. Petersor, noted that they feel good about this r�lationship, 'We emphasized that our sugges�ion r�garding the handling of �he drainage and the parking lots was a canstructive suggestiion, and that this city has a positiv� attit�d� regarding the college. 8�cau�e the parkfnq will be iocated in a previausly approv�d area in accordance with th� planned Unit dev�log�mQnt, the c+�nstructi,on of th� parking aroa wi].1 re�uire approval of the Water �h�d and the �i�y's engi.n�ering stafg, but th� PUO wo�al� not have to b� �m�nd@d. 4� �lmu� (633-570�) T"am Wf lmus end his ��sista�nt ��.ck �ierhaul�, warc� in to discus� �utura ra�lti-f�mily ho��ing pr�jQc�s i� Ro��vili@. Mr. �ti�me�� in�orms u� th�t h� is �.�t�r��t�c3 in inv�ating .�n c,�uality multi-��n�iiy housi,ng Por ��nt, l.ikc��y tabcinq tt�� o� of thr�� story br�ck building� e�ith �nderc�round ,�a�kf r�c�, a�d irrnav�t,ions that ha h�s �n naind. No woulci iiks a 20 acre� �ite, slthnuqh th8t is d��ficu�t to achie�rc� � f� Ras�vill�. H� notc:d �hr�t Y�o h�d expr�ss�d intc�rest �r� th� GQAc�a R�i�i»g si�Q north o� City 3��11, €�a�d wou�el lbe �ntarQ�t�d f n tri� po��lble pur�ch��a e�� some� of th�a othar mu�t�-f�rmily hausing s,�tt�� th�t ��rQ yQt �er�a�.�,�,�1�. S�r� rliscus��d ��ssiFala d�vQlo��»c�n� �itQ�, �nd gc�r��r�l d�v�lca�m�nt �rc�nd� in Rosc�v,�l��. Th� ��rkot is s�tror�c� �n�, ar� ��ditfon�l 500 units co�l� �Q �c�z�di�y �b�orb�dy � • .�, � . ,, . l ,, � �^ G�rc�a►n �QtQr�or� i� s �o�m�r �arket�ng �Qreon with �h@ �l��natic Pc�r��k�i�l� �i��on o� Cc�ntr�ol D�ts, mrrd w�� 1�3,d �a�i� wi�h ��m� oP �� ut-�bAeks Qxp�ricrncod iay th�t �'irm �n thc� ��st �aw yQ�r�. �Q ir A gu� �nthu�iA�C �nd proporc�s �a de�ra�lo� r� �x�iv�ta c�urt ciub in R�sovil�€� "uti�.��inc� �he Ca�w�ll Camp�ny �r�r�ct�is�". Thi� sy��e�m cor��is�s a� st�nda�ct m�nuf��turQd shooti�ng �oint� anci t�rc�et �y�tem, �#g pro�o�c�$ savan paints ot 25 y�rd r�nc�a, sQv�t� o� 100 iract� r�ngr� (�t�nr�erd oYyan�i� r�ngA� ar�d �iv� �t 50 y�rd range �or 30 cml�b�r rifl�a. A poi�t i� ��11 wh�ra on� par�son fi,rAs his wa��,�n tfl�rard th� t�rr�at, Hi� p�opos�l i� tc� 1��s8 an exi��ing building with 1�,�00 sg, ft, jus� south of �Qu��y ktoad �, c��st�►rl�r ot' Clcavo��nd o Mr, p�terson in�Arm�d us t,hat th�r� was a gunn�ry in �urnsvillo at 1�30Q Ewing �,v�raue �outh (just north QF Cflunty Raad C, w�sterly of Surn�vill� � Cen�Qr) an�l one in Robbir,sd�lea Th� Ro��v�,l�.e ordin�nce does r�ot m�ke provisions �or a gunnery club, and ch�cking Planning Office Hours � Howard Dahlgren June 15, lggg �. � 7a � Page # 5 wath the ordinance, w� noted �hat the discharging of fire arms anywhere in th� city is at this time, said we would �check into �he operations in Burnsville, and disc�ss it wi�Y� the Chi�f of Police spoken to) and get back to him re�arding t er p ssibility hof �uch an installat.ion in �toseville. a bou t th� question of �� XPr�esed concern o f h an dguns � an�, �11 � ogZ ��° a �tQ that e l aOes to t he use fasufl. g with that r�-_ . _ , , D�ry T°iP�1 �nd his wife put��ha��d a homc� at �29 Shr�er a few months �qo in thQ Gity of R�sevi��e. N� inquir�d as to the �eas�ibilit�v o� �ut�in� u� ��i� foa�� fQnce on the p�coperty ��nc� centiguous to ths� D�►le Strmet and �kiAlm�n right-of- w�y. i�� h8e twa lot� �nd I�as sioublo �rranta�a� an tha sou�th or� �hyaa•, or� the Na�th on Skillm�r�, with aal�e Str��t on the E�►st, WQ ��d tha usu�i r��,Q� �Qg$rd�� }��rdship as it rela��s to v8riar�c��, ar�d sugs��3t�� thet conditions buildinr� a� � q��a� ��,�, ��p�i�h��is n�l�owed! r�ithin �� 30 foo� �at#��c�c �,�,�a cont,i�guo�a� �� a public righ��o�'-wa�►, thai� ��hk 1�� adc�qu�� tor hf ��urpo�e. Nc� +�g�Qctd �orha�ps that w�uld bQ � rea�on�k�l� �olu�t�,on, �n� dacid�d to p�ur�uc� a vari�nce. ��L�� ?27 �� ;1 �Firi$ S,�gQ�, r�pr��ontin� �rra�foacd Sct�oo�s, a t'bausin�s� �chools� pri��rily fQr younc� �►omQn .�n Rosavi3lc� wA$ �n to review prel imir��►ry� �l�ns Por th� d�vQlo�me�t of a ne�r cam�� eE tp�� Nar�h��st ea�r�ar o� ;�y�ington l�ve�nu� �,nd E�ighw�y 3b� This� is �hc� l�nc� �or 2�8 ��ninr citizQns Paui,��i�nc�� i� x�tp�e��prDcton� �am �� ownQd by L.Srry LQ�. �� you will r�c�ll, � d�yCar� c�n�er we� huilt an thc� �ite (KindQrt�erry itill� o �lr, L�e �lso purchasad th� t�ao h4u��s imr�Qdi�tQ1� �on�iguous to L.�a;ingta�a AvQnue. Th� �ett�r i� not propos�d to b� er�dio�rd SchQo1 d�vc�lo�amat�t . 'The two t�omes � ara o zoned limited businass. Th� dQvelopm�n� paan ia�dicate�d A 15, A0�0 sq. ft. cl�ssroom build�.ng �ith a pert3al b�x�ement. Z'h�re would be 2,� T�wnhou�8 uteits haus�rag sight �tuder�ts ��ch, T��e �uniti� were ��tabl is�i�d .�n Cwo sets of p�ral lel row� about q� g� o ��art (�cxoss �h� a�cess str�et they could be occupi�d by th� enernlTh�Y W�r� laid out ro to Sandhurs� Street to the narth. Wo��`b�u �' and opened up neiqhbort�ood wouid objec� to this ina�much as� a� ezoning�of � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 15, 1988 this land had been traffic to and from single family area to conditioned this site the north. i Page # 6 on the concept that the would not go through the The 15,000 sq. ft. classroom building had capacity for 300 parking spaces, plus an additional 96 for future accommodation. We suggested perhaps that was too much parking, that there was in fact a sea of parking surrounding the classroom building. We suggested that the plan be thought out further so as to correct the access condition as it relates to the neighborhood, and to present a more informal pattern rather than the rectangular rigid site'plan indicated. The proposed school structure had a slope for a footprint which is a good idea because of the relative elevation of Highway 36 to the South. We suggested that the building could be orientated to the West rather than to the North because of the north winds and the fact that it could then be more visible from highway 36 (and hopefully be more attractive from that view). The nursing home to the east orients away from the Highway and does not present a very attractive appearance. The townhouses would be a density of approximately 10 per � acre, and are well under the density allowed by the R-3 district, which the property is zoned. Mr. Sigel noted that they would prefer to have the classroom building zoned limited business. We suggested that might be possible contiguous to Highway 36 if the overall campus plan is very attractive and obviously an asset to the community. Mr. Sigel is going to have his designers prepare alternative concepts. We agreed that if the cYty is going to be the location for a new permanent business school, it should be one of which we can all be justly proud. • � � ~� 2� 3� 4� 5� 6'� 7�� 8 Nt0 �� ,, _L» . A +� r • J•• t � � 3 D�� , , B —� l � � i ��, • 2M2 c C� i tLlp ' E . � � � , ' : � � �n� � ( E 4 +�. =a � I ��r i F � j � '� � . � G '� �p' � .� • �� H � - :�.o : � � � � .. , � . 1 y � :wo I t� r� �—� • � � �� t �� I ;� �_ ' � K ,,� a �� ;� 2' � 3 �j 4 � ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS �/ � � �' �j$ OAHLGREN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN 17 �� 18 � 19 �I 20 '� i� � I3 z� t4 :� 15 ;� 16 � 17 $I 18 � 19 � 20 =I � 1RI1 I..MUS l�itl A �000 B Zl49 C t�;w D ..o � June 14, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJ'ECT; pI�NING OFFI CE HOURS , June 8, 1 g g g 1. Bona (789-2289) Roger Bona, owns and operates an auto repair business Lowery and Silver Lake Road, which is down the road a iece from the northeast intersection of County Road C-2 and O Highway 8. This is a ld partially zoned g_3 Parcel owned by Jim Trapp which is for man � ln Which a service station was located y years prior to its burning down about three years ago. Mr. Bona is considerin building a second Automobile re airufacilitg the land and is a"dirty kind of business'� p Y• He notes this it as aestheticall a s , but that he would want t o do � possi b le. He would want two to three service bays, and would not sell is possib le his development would gnclude an A.0 he Delco� rt Center, which a p par e n t l y d o e s w a r r a n ty wor k on batterieS T e c h • We reviewed wit build a serviceh station e(the uFood �a a previous nd Fuel proposal to two years ago, and the strong indication on theposal) about neighbors that they would �art of the housing development on the siteer to see a medium density that which was done in St. AntY�ony atlthe same intersecr'to to th� southwest. We suggested that this develo ment Wtloh be more appropriate for the propert p o�ld property to the north as well (currentlY vacant hat of the indicated he would hold off on an Y � Mr• Bona proposals, but would consider other sltes uin the area��pment 2. ime 4 -9g27 Wendell Smith from Prim� Development was in with Sh Emmons, also with Prime Development and Dennis Crow, ar.on are looking for retail sites in Roseville. They various areas of the city�s land use conce t e discussed zoning, and existing development atterns, p proposals, major grocery retailer interested in They have a � relocation in .� • C� • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 8, 1988 3. Page # 2 Roseville, and are looking for potential sites for them and others. Some of their interest centers on Snelling Avenue in recognition of its central location to the Roseville market, Rosedale and Har Mar. They have no particular sites in mind at the moment, but are looking for the best option. They will keep in touch and be back together with us after some of their people have done additional market and land use studies. Webb (631-8325) Richard Webb was back with PaLl Madson of Arvid Ellness architects office and Arnold MacDonald, who is with the Real Estate Division o€ th� Liberty Insurance Company. The latter are partners with Webb and his people in the development of the new "nursing home alternative" development for senior citizens off Victaria (the old Victoria schaol site). We reviewed more detailed studies of the changes in the building design, now emphasizing a Colonial, Georgian, architectural look. They appeared to be making grea} efforts to achieve a quality c�esign with residential character (versus institutionalj. We suggested the adding of additional dormers on the front of the center bt�ild3.ng, putting an arched Georgian dsta_1 on the central entrance, forming a canopy porte�cuchere, and the addition of brick at the base, below the horizontal siding. Some changes in the configuration of the h�llways (eliminating the long straight hallway), results in the building being setback approximately 10 feet farther from Victoria then previously drawn, and with a building length approximately 4 feet �ess. The unit size has increased slightly, with 2/3rds of the 68 units having separate sleeping chambers. The old larger units was 420 sq. ft. and th�e new is 500 sq. ft. Some of the older units at 440 sq. ft. are now 440 sq. ft� Others at 400 sq. ft. remain at �00 sq. ft. The latter are the efficiency (no separate sleeping room� which is similar to what they were as they were originally design�d. We emphasized that no change in occupancy occur, and that the practice of occupants not driving cars be continued. This development si�e is not pro�rammed for the tenants driving cars. They emphasized that the structure is designed as an alternative for nursing home care and that most of the occupants will be elderly women and men, and that the use of a car is not anticipated. They will be back � • 0 C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 8, 1988 4. 4b. with further review as they detailed, design drawings. Rockwell (633-9525� � prepare more Page # 3 finalized, Don Rockwell is a realtor with G.N. Butler and Associates operating here in Roseville at 2500 West County Road C. Don has been working with Dorothy and Beatrice Antonozzi, who together own approximately 2 acres of land north of County Road C-2, and south of the Garley apartments constructed about 10 - 12 years ago, southeasterly of new Highway 8. At the time of the construction o� the apartments, and when tY�e last comprehensive plan was prepared, these homeowners, consisting of about 5 homes, agreed that the future land use for their properties should be high density multi-family housing. We reviewed that potential, noting that at the R- 3-A density, approximately 34 units could be built on the combined properties. We also reviewed other uses that are either permitted or are special uses in the R-1 and R-3A district which include churches, convents, schools, funeral chapels, rest homes, nursing homes, and, of course, group homes, duplexes, townhouses, and apartments. Don said that he would concentrate on these potential uses, and would attempt to market their land for them. We suggested that retail or office/warehouse would be a problem inasmuch as the remaining single family homes would likely be jeopardized by less compatible uses. Rockwell (633-9525� Mr. Rockwell also noted his progress in putting together two parcels on the west side of 35 W with about 10 acres each, and that there is a large developer interested in starting a major health club facility. We reviewed the B-6 zone, noting the principal uses and the accessory uses, one of which is a health club. We suggested that, in view of the soft office market, the redevelopment in that area, taking out two former trucking sites, could be very helpful at this stage, and that its approval would depend upon the scale of the development, level of quality, and the proportions of health club use versus the principal uses which, of course, include offices, hotels, restaurants, etc. We suggested that its degree of compatibility, and it beYng an asset to the area will be a significant factor, and that the level of quality and planning and staging of additional uses would be impcartant. On that basis, he will inform his clients and likely proceed with negotiations. • � • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 8, 1988 5. 6. C� Page # 4 Mr. Rockwell also noted his progress in the sale of another truck terminal over in the Fairview area, which could have a significant positive influence on the timing, phasing, and development of "Twin Lakes Boulevard" at a significant, skrategic position on the alignment. Details of these acquisitions are confidential, though action is contemplated in the very near future. ..... •• � Mike Happala is an agent for a potential purchaser of Yale Marshall's lots approved at the last meeting of the Planning Commission in June. Happala notes that Mr. Marshall proposes to reduce the depth of the easterly raoat lot from 230 ft. to 130 ft., and add this area of approximately 100 ft. x 104 �t. to the westerly most lot (which is occupi.ed by Mr. Marshall's house). Th3.s change, we sugqest, would make a dis-proportionately large lot with a much smaller lat, which has �only soane 41 feet of �rontaqe on �ldridge. We noted that the arrangement as now submitted and approved by the Planning Commission was based on a pre�vious desiqn done several years ago when the first �wo lots were platted. We informed Mr. Happala that if such a major change were to be proposed, that the staff would not have the authority to approve it, and that it would have to go back to the Planning Commission and Cour�cil. We noted also that we feel that the change is not justified. Mr. Happala said that it is apparently being brought about because of a doubling of the price, and �hat tt�is suggest�d �hange is an attempt to solve th�t problem. He agreed th�,t the proposal is best left the way it is. Wi].son l252�62621 Steve Wilson of Brutger Associates was ix� with Dan iClucker from Pope Associates, architects, to review a very preliminary idea relating to th� development of the Concordia High School site, easterly of Dale, north of Minnesota Street, just north of Highway 36. The Board of Concordia School is proposing to purchase Capitol View School site for the Ros�ville Area School System, and would thus make available their entire proper�y in Roseville. Mr. Wilson proposEs to develop the land for residential purposes, and sell a portion of the site with the principal building and approximately 10 acres of land to the city. He has discussed this in a preliminary way with Bob Bierscheid, and Craig Waldron regardin� methods to accomplish this potential objective. We talked about potential land uses on the sit� which included multi-family housing to the south � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 8, 1988 Page # 5 (contiguous to TH 36), and single family housing to the north, .;tilizing a"Z" lot arrangement similar to a project our office has done in Minnetonka. Z lots are placed at a diagonal to the access street, often combining two driveways into one, as two car driveways, 0 lot line setbac�C on one side, open yard spaces on the back and one side, and function similarly to disconnected townhouses. We suggested that such a housing form would likely be successful in Roseville, and could be highly compatible with contiguous single family housing development to the east. The school has an excellent gymnasium ar�d other co�nmunity use facilities. At this point Mr. Wilson has merely explored the idea, with no definitive proposals ox decisions. Tt represants an approach �hat could be perhaps highly succes�Pul for a]�.1 parties concerned. More de�ailed concepts w�ll lae prepared for furt�her review, adjustments, and considerations. • t-•t ' Chris Hanson of the Centre Company was in with Doug Mc�hane � of the same company, D�nnis LaFranc, an archftect with the Architectural Alliance, and Dave Koski, o� Barton-Acshma�, tc� discu�s more precise plans �or the expan�ion Q� Ros�edale by t�he aaaition of a new Daytan's dep�rtment stor�, and a conversion of the �xisting store to a new two story tenant building. Most of the discussion related to the handling of �traffic, with respect to Fairview Avenue and th� rest of �h� contiguous system. �ave Koski r�oted that he had put togeth�r txaffic numbers from ].985, 19�6, 1g87 and new numbers in MaX of 19�8, which included internal count� within the: shopping center. Counts concentra�ed on peak I�M traffi� cc�ndition� with counts �eing made from 3:�0 - 6:30. The peak hour is considered to be 4;30 to 5:30. The proposed scalution is similar to that which was discussed th� last titne we met, which ia based on 46$ of the a�ccess to the site during ti�e peak hc�urs being from Fairview (at the southwest entrance) totalling 780 cars. 18� is off the westerly most access from B-2, and 23� from the Snelling Avenue access. Conversely the e_;it tr�ffic during this peak �eriod is 30� off the Faix�view Aver�ue exit, and �3� at Snelli.ng Avenue. The persons leaving at this hour feel that they can get bac}c to Hiqhway 36 more conveniently off Snelling then by taking the series of l�ft turn� necessary to do so at Fairview. � The changes to the sys�em include adding a second right turn access iane right off of Fairview, potentially a second left Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren June 8, 1988 � � Page # 6 turn lane for southbound traffic on Fairview, splitting of the ingress and egress at the principle en�rance oPf of Fairview �hat now exists, adding a two deck parking ramp southwesterly of the new Dayton's building, and the discontinuance of the through road peripheral system around the shopping center site at the Fairview Avenue entrance. The latter means the discontinuance Qf the T intersection at this intersection, which is to remain at the other access points. This change is brought about by the need to provide or direct an effic�ent access to the ramp �ntrance (on the north side) second levei, and th� ability to proceed ea�terly to the JC Penney lot (west af the JC Penney bu�lding). We expressed �ome concc�rn regaxding this discontinuance �f the continuity of the s�rvice ro�d, antl variou� ways 3.n whic� that could be replaced. Mr. Honchell emphasi��d the need for a broader look, and the �cquisition of riqht-oF-way that may be nec�ssary to effectuate the plan over � period of time. M�. Koski noted khat studie� indica�ed that by �he year 2000, th�re could be "�ondition�" at this Fairview Avenue er�tr�ncQ, and the en�tranc� to the Poldeei diamond ir��erchenge �n Fairview >>orth of Highway 36. We sugge�ted t�hat although major improvQm�nt� may not b� done now to correct t�es� conditions, 12 y�ars froM now it would be im�aortant to r�cognix� the prolalem, and provide sol,utfons (including nece�sa�y right-of-way) at this time. Mr. Koski noted that th�� provideci fflr $dditional traffic for 250,000 �q, ft. of space occuring to the �-rest (across 35W bridge) and a 3$ increase in tt�e �'airview traffic increase in the traific x�orth on Fa,irview until 199►2, agte� which the adct�tional tr�ffic generated by the "Twin L�kes l�svelopment" is added. We all agreed that coordination and approval from Ramsey County and Mid Do� ar� essengial , Tl�Qy also noted �hat the Dayton Hudson Company may decide ta post-pone �his devel.opment �ne year, and be donc� the yQar a�ter the Southdale expansion, rather than at the same time. This decision will be made on June 2�, and iF tt�ey decid� to proceed, ther� would b� then the �ecessity of p�eparing the preliminary plat, the necessary drawings, and data for submission by �the last w�ek in June to make August m�etings of the Planning Commission and Council and the last week in July to make Sept�mber mee�in�q. The September meetings is consid�red �o be the latsst workable, in-as-much-as �hey would desire to proceed wi�h the earth wo�k �rior to th� Christmas season rush, thus necessitating beginning i� Septemb�r. Tn summary, we noted three areas of concern: 1. The discontinuance of the coni:inuity of the � Planning Office Howard Dahlgren June 8, 1988 �� Hours circumferential site. road within the Page # � shopping center 2. The level of tra�fic ien�rease contemp],ated for changes on B2 and Fairv 3, The potential for conditi �eW� Aven et interchange AvBnue entrarace �nd Fairv witt� TH 36. We all agre�d tha�t the expar�siont��e a° ositivei impact on thing� and, if done well will consti P the city at�d o�h�r dev�elopment iri the area. g t Nsi�. -� 72911 �aith o�N�il lives �t 2551 Fr� St�eet and rias dan� so for 11 years. The e�tr�et i� b�ing i.�proved ir� �rox�t a� their house thig aummer by the city, and �hey wish �a leave �heir exi�ting driveway, which ie ��iance �ie �requirecl �pri.�r �o property line. Tt�us�, a minor var �he city's reconatructfng tfiis curb cut in i��tp��e�as location. �heir driv�w�y ia only 3� �eet wide, ��8 O� to a� tuck under garage, ansl there are retaining b�th sidee; �hus, �here �re r�taini�ng walle on bqt3a side� o� the driv�way. T��y h��'g �h� o�fl�ob,� ��s �hat inO�hi� cas�� at 2551 F�y Street. 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From C�aunty Ro�d g �a� from Fa.�rv�eW to Vfetori��efr reguest for �O ��unty Road C� � and Rec�sn r��ondedp t� 1 abot�t � mon�h ago which �sa theu �, °ut � mction eoon. We ��plained�the�@y �i'�i n'�t n� �on witt� respect to the b� �a�kinq ari Clevelan� anci Snellin Planninq Progra� und�rw�y 8�e� n�'�� Count the ��st OFgice 9) , and s�ac�g�St�d thatRo�dl C t,between hel�fu�, to bath p�ople �n� ci� � meeting with ��r�ias. Y �°�pree�nta�iv�s would be ��rt o� the Chic�e o We nc�t�d th� reluctance o� t° th� Count g office to do thi� in th� �he � Road e �nd �xinq�o� sit� �ast (relati�ng �r• Musal r�ated that he wou�d b� �r��osal), aqreed to meet with us on �uesd� gon� for s�ver�l w�eks objecti�� nd crit�r�a, Y, Jun� 28, to xeview their requestad, and w� x� the m�an�im� comprehen�ive �9re�d �a senc� �h�� ► Mr. ,�us�l la�d us� Plan �mandment which includes a copy Q� 8 P�aposa�$ for the �rea nor�h o� Count t�Q ma}�s �n� are �opefu� that this �r.��l 1eac� ta � relo and r�sult that will be bene�icial to t �` Road C. We ofiice op�rations. c�tion procedure �� xtY and the �ost �ele (f45 �1�n� ei11 Wheeye� is opened ah �,ofl �he �ew d�aler for Roseville Dodge, wh former site of L�ke R°a� �I��roximatel ich Mr, Print. He caas in with�Ed�Van den Bo �h� requesting per��ssion to 8 K�o sign that now exis s� u�,�elarger rsch pylon sign then the ��repose a sign 13� ft. X � LJ � � Planning Offic� Hours � Howard Dahlgren June 1� 1988 3. • Page # 2 allawable 10ohS approximates 212 Sq. ft. T'he �' f t• Slg� area allowed farothis � ocatione y wanted �o pr��os� a secor�c� si r� e�isting 80 sq, ft. 5 in addition to dealersh�. , sig� which advertises the �� the p We reviewed the Dodge�� procedures. yVe noted ordinance limitations and esta}�lish a�er that a second Y difficult pr��dence �ndpwou�.d 1 keY WOuld ind$ca in ed. W� sugg�steci that an anal �' no� � ysis on �h�ei� 100 sq ft ��a� �f the s�,gns in the area are larger tg� part • all�wed, �he an �he conciition. We explain�d th � a site u h asriance on that freeway gronta3�, can�ot be expectecl to b the�,rs not a� from tY�e �reeway. We su � highly -ri�ible si�e o� th� sign the �ges�ed that tY�e w r y have to IOp sq. gt. if theynWish�e �he t'�...�� - 3 8,� ) R��hard �Tebb i�s a developer of the 'iElder . that t�as been recently � �Iomestead�� ey�lOp�� W��h the Schust�r Ved on Victoria, pro�ect aXchit�ct on the gEanc Ax�vici E1 ness being A Y, v eamo reviasec� Pro j ert was with Mr. Webb anci � the proposed floor p1�n� a�d s3te p�'esented project, They noted that t��slans relatinq ta the �n E1der I�omestead D�velo ment �ro��ct woulc� not be simi3ar project with a s�a h�I �� Su�'�� bu� would be They no��d first som� ch n es dlf�erent exterior imagea ��i��n�tes the Ion g in the floor change in the individ al��,00r ��r��or p�� which ��Q units would chan e � a�d �'rQVades for a g fram an efficiencs� Wh�reby 5p� of bedroom layout. This Y layout to particularl �ravides fnr m�rQ a ane Venture which is the Liriert �he �inancial privac�, and is propose the architecture �oYGhanue1sln�uxanceaConpar�y n Thes of having a�ural farm hous�g llg�t�y and then instead eolonial architect�are � mO�lf ► lt woulcl �ar�Y a "East�liff'� re�idence f age, perhaps s�milar President. thg Universit to the Y �� Minnesota We �'��l�Wed S°m� °g the necessary sketches new concept, and find thafi it would be �'elatin theg�s��u �ome changes to break u quite attractive,�his previous I� the roof Zin�s sim.ilar to dormers, prOp°Sal. This is done throu h They do propose not to use the redgroo f t use o f used in the Minne•�onka n a t u r a 1 o r woo d �hin les r�� e c t. T h e h a t �� a s changeS ma be g We agreed �that�the �as �itu�ing �ha� the emphasisp sh uld be m ubj�� to fur�ther s��d d�sign with no reduction in ade on improving �he Y' but this change the buildingl b co es� sii� ht �a�i�Y, They noted that with 5 ly shor�ter, wi11 be � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren June 1, 1988 4. � 5. � • Page # 3 the same height, but with emp�iasis on somE� of the quali�y features of pon� hill architecture �ncludzng doors, shutters, dormers, wood siding (similar to the previous proposal) and cedar shingle roo�s. They will be back pending further study of architectural details. The number �f units, park.�ng, access, and the site plan remain essen.tially th� same. Nimis (631-2852) Marion Nimis lives a� 1958 Eldridge and propases to build an above ground swimming pool in her backyard. The lot is 105 ft. x 134 ft. She notes that the backyard contains a number of trees and that the location appropriate for th� swimmis�g pool would place it 5 ft. from the west property line. A 10 ft. se�back is required for a swimming pool. She notes t�aat the location selected would put it immediately contiguous to an apple tree in which she is reluctant to cut down. Tnle noted that having a tree contiguous to a pool is a significant problem inasmuch as i.t shad.es the pool �nd drops leaves and debris in the pool. We suggested that they simply cut the apple tree down and take the $50.00 it now cQsts to process a variance and buy a new tree and plant it some distanve away from the poo1. We find that persans who have never owned pools find through experience that having � tree cont�iguous to a pool is, �n fact, a liability. It appeared obvious tha� if the apple tree is removed, the swimming pool can fit into the backyard without a variance. HarMar (631-0341) Nancy Gordon of the Har Mar organization was in to review a landsca�e plan for the new expansion of I-i�r Mar but not including the refurbis�ings, in addition to the screening contiguous to the residential areas to the west and east. Their approval includes a renewal of plating in the areas cnntiguous to the residences, based on conversations with the neighbars and city staff. They are going to conduct this on the site, with the neighbors and Rick Jopke present for these meetings. The plans submitted for the remainder of the site contiguous to the driveways and in the parking areas, etc., appeared to be appropriate except that we questioned the possible use of the Robusta Popular as a boulevard �ree contiguous to the main entrance proceeding easterly from Snelling. Subsequently we checked this with one of our landscape architects, and informed Nancy Gordon that this is in fact a "seedless" cottonwood tree. It is fast growing brittle, and � • L.J • Planning Office Hours howard Dahlgren June 1, 1988 � Page # 4 has a deleterious effect on curbs, walks and drives, etc. For these reasons, it is not used as a boulevard tree. We suggested that they not use it heres Nancy agreed to consider some other trees. She'll get back to us regarding a species change, which will then be coordinated with Rick Jopke so that an approved plan can be issued for their immediate use. Karl Keel and Charlie Honchell reviewed the property line location question and construction of the sidewalk. They will check r�garding the exact location, which presumably is 15 feet back from the curb line, and the timing of the const�uction of the walk so that it can be coordinated with the sodding and landscaping of that area of the site. Charlie noted that the city has a contract out on the cons�truction of the walk with Scheifky's. The intent here will be to have the landscaping done af.ter the w�lk is in. 6. Gregory (332-5544� Arnie Gregory was in with Greg Halling, a civil engineer, Harry Olson, and Greg Buell, a landscape architect. We � reviewed the proposed landscape planting plan for the site which appears to be very well done. We suggested additional landscaping on the east side of the 8 unit structure (as it faces the central ponding area) and the preparation of landscape plans for the neighborhood shopping center area. We suggested these additions be added to the landscape plan and a reduced copy furnished to us, so it can be included in the overall package to be mailed out for the July me��ing of the Planning Commission. They submitted a bound package o� drawings and text which were very well done, explaining the development proposal. • Mr. Honchell and Karl Keel noted the importance of contacting the Watershed District relating to the drainage pattern. Mr. Halling explained the drainage and it appeared that the concept will be workable. Mr. Gregory noted that the VFW would and that the VFW softball field and dedicated for park agreement relating that the VFW has relating to the par that their arrang�ment with the VFW is purchase land set aside for their use, proposes to build and maintain the other park facilities on the land to be purposes. They hope to have a written to this in the near future. They noted been in contact with Bob Bierscheid ; development and maintenance pro�e�:ure. Mr. Gregory no�ed that the shopping center building will be . • � • � � Planning Office Haurs Howard Dahlgren June 1, 1988 7. E=� Page # 5 built of brick and siding the same as apartment structures to the north. Additional landscaping between the nearest apartment building and the north side of the shopping center will also be added. Relating to the service station, M�c. Gregory noted that they are getting a revised agreement from George Reiling wherein the new service station would be built as part of the neighborhood shopping center, and that George would own the service station which would be built l�y the Can-Am people (the developers in this case�. It appears that this developmen� proposal is now r.•eady for submission for public hearing before the planning commission at it's July meeting. Sikora ( Bill Sikor.a w�s in to review the status of the development at the Tower Glen Shopping Center. We noted the inquiries we have had at city hall relating to the completian of th� center inasmuch as some of the stucco on top of the cancrete block was not complete�3 until late this spring. We also reviewed the landscaping plan with his agreeing to pr��ide the additional trees to brir�g it up to th� level of quality that was approved by the Planning Commission and Council with the Special Use Permit. He noted that the shopping center now has two restauranis; one with 15 seats and the other with 50 seats. The 15 seat restaurant is a submarine sandtaich shop and the 50 seat one is a Gold Leaf Chinese Food restaurant. Each of these has take out services. He is inquiring as to whether or not it would be appropriate to add another restaurant with 30 seats. We noted that until the center is complete and the occupancy of the remainder is determined, adding a third restaurant �t this point could be a risk. We noted the extreme importanc� of there beiny adequate parking for the center. The ordinance does allow for a p.rincipal daytime uses and principal nighttime uses to be mi.xed, with a 50� reduction is parking. We suggested, however, that th.is be done very carefully, and that it is subject to Council approval as outlined. If all of the restaurants are successful and the cEnter is successful as well, there may well be inadequate parking according to the numbers that were worked out. He noted the center is approximately 60% leased. Dis�rict 916 We spoke to Carol Franzmeir, secretary to the principal for special education at District 916. Thi� district, as you � � n . � • Planning O�fice Hours Howa�d Dahlgren � June 1, 1988 � � Page # 6 know, s�rves nine school districts in the area providing facilities and s�aff for the T� �tsaat��he Lexington Retarded). They now have 175 such studen School, but half of these will be moving t�o a��n198$acils�e in White Bear Lake prior to the fall te noted that it is their objective ta leave these premises within the two year lease geriod now established. She alsa con�irmed that a bond i�sue was approved a y�ar ago; thus the� have the money to provide addit�ville arealschool perhaps in the Moundsview area or the Ros system. This confYrms our recent information that the use o£ the Lexington school for an extended period of time for schnol purposes by District 916 is temporary and limited. � � � 2 � 3 � 4 � _5 � 6 '+ � =i 8 � 9 � 10 � lE � 12 � 13 � 14 ; 15 i i� � A � e tH2 C u�e � E � � G xu� fi ziao � tao � K � � :I 2' � 3��f 4 � ,� R�iSEYIL.LE MIN�iESOTA PLAt�IP11t�JG OFFICIE HAURS � � �� DAHLGFEN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN � 17 -� 18 j 19 =) 2G '� " A �-• woo B -- Iau � C � — D — ��a � _ � �� u�r �F �� f� G = zztn — N _ s�so � � � J � C �.:o I K - _� L � �..o 11 � 12 � 13 i� 14 .I I 5 :� I 6 � 17 8I I 8 � I S �' 20 =I � :.� � :� .E � � June 3, 1988 TO: Jim Andre �'ROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. • 2. • Winter (924-4�476) �� May 28, 1988 Darcy Winter, a realtor with Eberhart Company, was in with Dick Page, who has been developi labele"Wave�Carwasheshes He the Metropolitan area under the is interested in purchasing the Rose Car Wash (owned by Sheldon Rubenstein and his broth lin h Avenue �n heynarehalso corner of County Road B and Snel g looking at purchasing the Sinclair station which they inform us has not been purchased by the Peterson's. They have also talked to the owner of the office building at that corner, which is a two story building 50 x 100 ft. owned by • ' �s attem ts Todd Young. We reviewed the history of the city p to put these three proper terest d ein rthen redevelopment service road. They are in the ideas, though keeping the carwashroblem rase much la�s the remainder of the land a likel rtpon of the site for the carwash occupies the easterly p occur. access to the relocated a�e� e e oSsibilities inmview of our They are going to look P conversatzons, and will keep the city informed as they proceed. Hostetle� (546-89�3..L Don Hostetler was in to review the potential for adding a 13 ft. x 53 ft. solarium.ve of etheutSolareWorks'akwhosalsoadid He is the representati ca acit of the the VFW solarium installation. Seating P Y to existing Baker's Square is 138 seats in 5,050 sq. ft. which 689 sq. ft. will be added or an increase ot 14$. The site has 98 parking spaces which is far above what was required in the old ordinance, and siqnificantly above what is required in the new ordinance (basically 1 space per 2.5 seats). The proposed add,ition wil.l effect no changes in the parking or access, and will remove an area of concrete walk i.n front of the building to be replaced by landscaping. It u �J � Page # 2 Planr��ng Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 28, 19a8 would appear that the proposed additior� wi1.1 have minimal effect on the site, and thus would non a� roval.�eprocessing for a special use permit for site pla �P 3a. Rectan (777-7700 Don Regan was in to involved in Roseville Chairman of the Board discussed was the old Rice Street. This is going to take out the in know ing i f removal. It Rococo would capacity is n someone discuss properties with which he is either as a personal investment or as of the Maplewood Bank. The first �ne Roseville Crossing restaurant site on being sold to Rocky Rococo. They are railroad car, and would be interested would like to ha�ve it for the cost of appears the conversion ie� hislfitehe seating not incur any prob � ot changed. 3b. Reaan �777-77�0) Re an owns the former Bruce Mot on ase a bus termxnalh WHe g his arganizati used for awhile by also purchased the site to the nortof the post cof�icehfor a has had some interest on the part facility there, though the exact nanure�oseville Post� fficey or may not be to replace the existi 9 use of the land by He is also inquiring about the temporary eo le a company for recycling of paper. He noted that his p P have checked this recycling of paper operation out and find This, we that it occurs entirely checked ash tosits �otential impact noted, would have to be or s readinq of debris etc,, and i�'S u us�� r pertiesatiWe f P so as to ascertaine�tsWi�ha°ioCalCOPost Office people to will check furte of facility proposed in this area. ascertain the typ �c. Aeq_ an (777-77001 Don Regan Partridge proposed t currently Tombstone expressed structure continues. also discussed toad. This is a � build to suit is cansidering with us the site he o�ans off 2.94 acre site, on which he has for various potential users. He the possibility of buildinq a Pizza Plant on the site where these people have some interest. This site is vacant, thus a new would be proposed if this potential interest 4, Busse (42a-1610� Rick Busse was in to discuss a current proposal for thei.r � � � � P3.anning Of.fice Hours Howard Dahlgren May 28, 1988 5. �� Page # 3 9.6 acre site north of Larpent�ur. It a develop eiqht sing�.e family lots on the asite p i11 S be ta reasonable proposal far them, with the will consider rezoning the l�and from R-ls to R 2.Y tThe ialna i� shown on th� �omprehensive plan as medium density residential. They have been considering various developers for towra houses and other forms of housing without much s�ccess. I� appeared because o�f the high val�ue of land lots in F�oseville that platting of the lanci by the family will be a reasonable chaice. We suggested that dupleytes would be appropriate for the site in view of the comprehensive plan, desic�natf�n and that if tlney do so, they ma� wish to reduce the site to seven lots so as ta make them moze usable for duplex density purposes. �e9�'Y f 332��544 ) Arnie Grsgory was back with a more c�etailed praposal Por the d�velopment of the Reiling land �o the narth. They are going to try and kee�a �he shapping cc�nter the same, thouqh Mr. Reiling s�ill h�s the nptian oi' retaining tt�� soutk��astesly corner o;� the sitn with th� dimensions 2�6 x 2�6 ft, �he pr�cess would incl�de a comprehens�ve plan change, {business to multi-�amily housin rez�,�ing (iargely shapping center ta R-3A)g andn �UD iand a pre�i�nina�y plat. We sugg�sted tt�at �he small sh�pping c�nter on the corner be rezoned Prom shoppinq center tA B-4. W� noted �hc� importar�ce of wo�kir�g diro�tly wi.t3� the neighbors regarding the m�t�;od af transiti4n to the single fa�mily houaes to the �,�st. They are c�oit�q �o car�duc� e ne.�ghborhoad m�e�ing ae is required, and perhaps will 'hav� a s��ond me�ting if neces�ary. It �pp�a�s that this i� �.n good shap� for cQr�sid�ration� �ropo�al t�e �ity's desire to c�nstruct h�usi��g�insth3.asar+�anr�thez� than a sho�ping center or � discount store. The �and wa�s aoned largeYy to a shopping c�ntQr many years aqo as a holding zane. Tt�e curr�nt deve lopmen t w il�l� pxopose 321 units, as discu�sed in p��eviotas revi�,ws wa,th l�r, ��ory. �il.�hae].s l6� -i9] � �'im Michaels was in to review �the posaibility of x�- �ubmit�ing a preiimir�ary pl�t �hat was turned down b�r the Council on December 9, 1980. This w�s a projeation of St� �1�bans stre�t as a cul-de-sac� one block south n� Tra�sit, wh��h ��lsts a� a cu1-d�-sac ea�terly of Dale Street. The �%ichaels are no� considering purchasinq one of th� prope�ties whose ownex� p�eviQusly opposed this project. There thus appeared to be eigh� properties in favar and four P1ann�ng Office Hours � Howard Dahlgren May 28, 1988 Page # 4 opposed, assuming that neighbors would remain so. They inquired as to their right to request the proposed plat and construction of the cul-de-sac. Again, we informed them that they had that right, and that the more persons in favor, of course, the better their chances of gaining city support for the proposal. We noted that in cases of this kind it is usually a question of time for eccnomics and the desires of the property owners involved results in the ultimate development of the project. � � � :;; Z � 3 J � � 0 6 y 7�� 6:� 9 �! 0 � ! 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'�-,�= •c_ r.Y'r _s---3 r`-..=s.�-�__ �_'._ ��' . . �;� 7 � +t �3 �A PL1�VdNING t'9FFgCE H�i,�F�S ,,�' ; � c� M' � � �`, �2 �� s3 �;' x� �' �� =.; � ,. a _,. � s� � '" :. �. u y��•� �s�e �.•ans�» " � � p gaw �,s.��,..� DAHIGREN SHAROIONl S UHAN � ,� �� fsly �� "P�'RT'!`..4'�+�-w!. � �� t� �Lwa� � � �� _ --�• ��.�� ' =_� _• - +,.��ad�a�+es�� a.na w+ a �� ;��' �. ,. tk_.awi�s ., _ .. i �L,. . i7 2� �! • � May 24, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOUR�, May 18, 1988 1. �asci. �78Q-1.9481 Mark Casci owns a paxce]l �outh of County Road C between Fairview and Cleveland with an assorted collection of buildings, some �f which date from the days when this was Ashback's Canstruction Company yard. I�ark was in with a Norse Brecvik, a c3vi1 engir�eer and Mark Finneman, an architect, to show his reyised mini-st�rage layout combined with offices and a► car wash on his �,99 acre site. The layout had b�e�, suhstantia2ly imprraved with the placement oE �he off,ic�s and car w�ah structur� at an angle with the £ront lot 1inQ �reatiny cons�iderable �pace for stacking and parking on t,h� nor�l� t fror�t) paxt of the 1ot. There is a total of 43,000 aq. ft. �� bui�ding 3.�cluding one s'tructure which is twra �.sye�. Bto�aqe� 3,8�0 sc�. Et. of offices, and 5 soXf service car wa�ri b�,yA. Tt�� flnor area ratio is .34. � W0 talk�d about brick �►xteriox witt� metal panels and column� b��waon thE� door� anrd fini6hing the buildinqs the sam�e on all sid�s. `Tho bu�ilding� are arranged in courtyards which wo�uld sati�f�► th� requir�m�nt a� specified in the new 2oning emendm�nt. HQ has sub�tant�.al landscap�ng areas on �ach �3dQ of kha �ropar�y �nd t�e re�r, The l�ast building an �ho �outN encl is sc�t i�tc� t�e k�a�nk so that ther� is no ax�c��ure o! storage doars �a the r�ar a� �ne site. The land is propc�rl�y �oraQd industri�.l ��d bas�d on the new zoning a�endment, he wi�l soon i�r� ir� a�o�i�ion ta a�ply for a sPecial usc� parmi� for mini-�tarag�, of�ices and c�►r wash. Carol Slavt�k xe�ar��n�s �rkall Daeve],c�pm�nt �nd was in with Bill Bisson�tt, bui:ld�r, and Al�n Marris from Pope �ssociatfls to d�scusg th�ir propr�sal to d�velop condominium atructures for �mpty ngsters �nd $lderly� similar ta tho proj�ct th�y have can�tructecl in Stillw�ter. They �►re looking a� the property owned by �on Roberts, northa�starly of th�s school site n�ar LakQ Owasso. H�wever, thc�y have no� c��i��1 tha 8�serati�l �ccess to the � � Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren May 18, 1988 site via the Graul discussed with them this land with a PUD • 3. 4. proper�y, which as being essential and R-2 zoning. Page # 2 we had previously to development of The plan they propos� would be 5,550 sq, ft. per unit which comes out at 8.7 units per acre, (which, is R-2 densityj. Their density normally is about 7.3 per acre. However, without the Greuel property, access to the property is circuitous and would appear to be unacceptable from the standpoint of traffic through contiguous single family areas. They noted that they now have a project in Nassau Wisconsin and are developing one in Maplewood, MN. They rent from $385.00 for a one bedroom to $485.00 for a two bedroom, not including heat. This kind of project may have a good market in Roseville, but finding a site for the development will be difficult. Honchell (490-222pZ Charlie Honchell reviewed with us the status of a thin parcel of land at the southeast corner of County Road C and Cleveland. This parcel, he notes, is owned by the state and is being sought by �he owners of the Burger King restaurant (which is across Cleveland to the westj for additional parking. Charlie notes that the city will be needing an easement through this site for a new storm sewer. MN Dot has told him that for them to put an easement on this land prio r to selling it would cost the city $4,700.00. Theoretically, the land can not be parking alone in-as-much as that is an accessor� use allowable only if a principal use occupies the property. For instance, if you own a single family lot you can't park cars on it unless there is a residence on the site (the principal use). It would appear that if the land wer�e to be used for parking under some arrangement, a condition could be attached so that the easement be granted to the city. Obviously the land �an not be used for a structure because it is only 65 ft. wide at its widest point, therefore, the city�s owning an easement for a storm sewer on the l�nd would not seriously impair the development potential for this site for parking purposes. Moore (489-9356� Gary Moore lives at 1026 Ruggles, and proposes to build a new garage attached to his house on the south side. ThYs � involves the c�nstruction of a new driveway, which his neighbor to the southeast objects to. His existing house is � Planning Office Hours � Howard Dahlgren May 18, 1988 5. u 6. � � Page # 3 20 ft. from the right-of-way of Oxford (on the east side of the lot), thus a variance has to be issued to get the home out of �he non-conforming status. His neighbor refuses to sign the approval for the minor variance, and thus it may be necessary here to process a ordinary variance through the planning commission and co�ncil. Staff noted that the driveway to his property might well be appropriately located about 10 feet north of the south line of Ruggles, so that cars entering and leaving his driveway would not hit a parked car on the south side of the street. Davison (636-5500) Rob Davisor is with the Everest Company and was in with Rodney Sill and Bob Ruc}cer, who are the owners of a retail and wholesale operation known as the Tile shop. Mark Burrel from the Tile Company was with them. We discussed their structure at the northeast corner of Fairview and C, which is a 9,412 sq, ft. building designed for office service t�s�. NAPA Auto Parts occupies the easterly portion of the store wzth 6,200 sq, ft. The central 6,200 sq, ft, is vacant, and they propose to lease 16,512 sq, ft. to the �ile store. The owners note that the tile store is 2/3rds retail and 1/3 wholesale, but sales are "high ticket" with low volume of customers, similar to a furniture store. There are 15 parking spaces on the west side of the building which they note would be adequate for their purposes (their store would orient to the west). They have approximately 4 employees on duty at any one time. We reviewed the possibility of rezoning a port�.on of the building B-4 to allow the retail use and the development of additional parking in a 15 ft. setback. The parking on the west side of the building is now setback 40 ft. in accordance with the industrial zone re suggested to that they may wish to re one mthes�entire property B-4 in accordance with the current planning proposals for the County Road C study area. GreQorv (332-55441 Gregory was back representing Can-Am with revised and more detailed plans for the use of the Reiling site north of City Hall. This plan is now emerging for a rather fine development, including provisions for a park at no cost to the city, a small neighborhood convenience center, a service station (as part of the center), expansion space for the • • • C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 18, 1988 7. : Page # 4 VFW, and about 320 units in 3 story apartments and two story 8 plexes. We talked about the importance of making an effective transition to the rear lot lines of the single family homes contiguous to the west side, and techpiques and doing this including berming, walls, landsca ing, adequate space. Rick discussed the scheduling and procedures, with emphasis on a neighborhood meeting early enough so that perhaps two meeiings might be held in the event that proved helpful. It appears this application will be ready for processing by the end of the month, which would make it to the planning commission in July. Dufresne (893-9000) Chuck Dufresne was in with Don Patton and Tom Blexrud, who are looking for a location for an Auto Mall. We talked about the ingredients and criteria, noting that the corridor along County Road C between Snelling and 35W would be an appropriate location for such a facility. Auto Malls probably run about 18,000 sq. ft. with the lubrication facility, tra S mes of th m pinclude a car wash and a eTBA batteries etc. such as Firestone, Goodyear, etc. Mr. Dufresne also talked about the development of the northerly most portion of the Glenndenning site (recently platted) for an office buildinge�h fi �wouldT eya �igh� lalso small one at 7,000 sq. ft. p suggest a two story office building further to the west. We talked about the impact of the shoreline zoning, and the city's need for ponding area in this space. The land is currently zoned industrial which allows an office building as a permitted use, and thus it could be handled in this Way, We suggested they conduct some preliminary design in ��close cooperation" with the engineering department relating to the storm drainage needs and systems. Georcte Reiling (483-1941�_ George Reiling was in to review some af the elements relating to his plat on �ake Owasso. It appears that if the underlying fee ownership is presumed to extend into the lake (as though the lake weren't there) the pla� would be more than 5 acres and subject to the 10� park dedication. George abhors the idea of park dedication, and we noted that it may not apply in this case in-as-much as there has got to be a meander line near the shore which limits the acreage on the site considerably. There are only eight lots being platted for development on the shoreline, which . ,� Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren May 18, 1988 � � Page # 5 hardly consists of five acres. Rick Jopke and Karl Keel are going to check out the meander line location with county officials so that this point can be clarified. � I i� 2� 3� 4� 5 � � � —�'�" . " L_._ � � � ' E � � ,. � � . F I css� G t' � � i c� I ....�.. H � /� � :�.o �..1 � � � �� rwo I t � � � � � = ��o�� D�Q(� �� :� �s � �.� � � � 2�� 3�� 4 � ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS 5%tSfeg, DAHLGREN SHARDLOW d UBAN . .� '{ ��"'--�—�—x .. u 1� D2 � 13 �� 14 .� 15 z� 16 � 17 $� 18 � 19 � 20 'I 17��2�'S�� ! • A � B �� C � D :.•o E � F � G � t�.o � � J � K �.� : ,L o � ❑ � May 16, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SU�7'ECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, May 11, 1988 1. Valento (484-0460) 2. Don Valento (one of our representatives in the legislature) has a son who has purchased property at 324 W. County Road B. �he property is I54.41 feet of frontage along the south side of County Road B with a depth of 352 feet of which 10 feet should be dedicated for right-of-way if the land is to be divided. He proposes to divide the land into two lots, 77.4 feet and 77. ft. The existinc� house is located on the ws�terly iot and has 10 f�et of setback for the now side yaxd setback line. The �xisting garaqe is on tFi� othQr 1ot, and will be removed a� th� �ime of land division approval. Don nated that they had propoaed �o leaae the garage with the new lot. We explair�ed th�t a garage alone is not a prop�r occupar�cy, and that thQ lot will sell better wi�riout th�e garage, in-as-much as it is in poor conditiQn. We exan�ir��ed lot sizes found �hat ti�er� are sxna ller in th� area . be arr approgriate lot « e in the arga in the s�ction m�ps and o�her l�ots this scale and �lightly Zc would appea�, then, that thi� would �livision. W�ndell Smith rc�presents Primc� Development Comp�ny, who ar� succe�sful, r�lativ�ly Y�►rge developer�s og busin�ss proge�rti�s pri.ncipa2l.y in Minneapolis ar►d the southwast�rly subur�bs. It is h�reby di�closed that �hoy are th� g�n�ral partn�rs for t�� o�fice buildirr� �ahere DaYrlgren� Shardlow, and Uben aro lo�at�d, �nd that Haward Dahlgren i� on� of th� Limited Pa�tnership owners oP that builciit�g. Thay ar�e ],00king for � si�te in RosQvill� gor a prospective tena�nt who desire� � 200,000 sq, ft. office build�ng on approximat�ly � 10 acr� site. The purpose of Mr. �mith's vi�it was ta discuss with th� sta�P a poss�ble lacation for their potential plan, and sacondly to review othc�r developmenk oppox�tunities in Roseville. Mr. Smith indicated that in their opinion, Roseville is � becoming more and more attractive for business development potential, and that they as a development company, are interested in pursuing that objective. The staff welcomed his interest and reviewed potential development sites, and emphasized the city's policy of working constructively with developers and others in the public interest. � �J 3. Skeie f638-8692) NCR (National Cash Register Company) purchased Comten shortly after they completed their building in Roseville, in the fall of 1980. Janet Skeie, representing NCR/Comten, was in to discuss a new signage program adopted by their company for their n�tional and international offices. They propose zs series of five sign changes, all of which are small ground signs, directing persons to the various departments in the company located in Roseville. As you all know, they purchased the school site �o the nortt�, which has been converted to their training center. Thus, a series of dir�ctional s�gns are �ppropriate for directing peoplQ to theses various locations. Thre� oE the signs arc� ap�ropriat� in-as-much as they are on th� interiQr of t�e site, but two of them az�e o�t n�ar thQ public right-of-way replacing Qxi�tfng signs �Por w3�ich parmits were never issued. Thare was somo question about this, so th€� buil.ding p�rmit records were ch�cked, and wa fc�und th�t though the other signs ware �pprov�,d on S/5/80, 7/22/80, and il/3/80, none o� th�so signa pest�i.n to �ho two dir�ct.�on�l signs that exist out n�ar tihQ right-o�-way. The probla� t�erQ is th�fi thc� two signs tt�at exi�t exe larger than the dir�rctianal signs which are permittad, w�P�ich moasure 1�t. G x 3 Ft. 0. Exi�tinq signs ar¢a a�proxim�t�l�► 3 x��t., and located ve�y near the public rigPat-a�-way tSnalling �vonu� sarvic� roadj. The nsw r�igns �re propoaed to b� �!t. wido by 6�t. 9" high, with the sol �.ci motal p�n�l extQncling into ti�� ground. We �xprc�ssed some concc�rn ebout how �k�aae signs might look after snow �nd ice has piled a�raurad �h�m, �nd that thare is tl�� concern rQg�rding trafi:ic yisibil�ty at thes� corners, Th� naw sign� �r� to bc� gray with white l�ttaring. We sugges��d thet they r��vic�w their sign location que�ti�n+ �n�i that �f the� can be sEt back thirty P�et fram �hQ right-of- way, permits can be issu�d immed��e].�. If, however, they find it n�c�ssary to have �tzem lc�ss �rian thirty feot, they shauld process this sign progr�m as � variance similar to what Unisys dic� about a year �go. Sh� noted that they w�ulcl Planning Office Hours Page # 3 � Howard Dahlgren May 11, 1988 4. 5. � 6. � also be ultimately changing the accordance with their new imag pose no problem with location or Greenwald (489-4249) wall sign e scenario size. on the building in . This sign will Rosemary Greenwald is a business manager for a small medical clinic located at the northwest corner of Autumn and Lexington Avenue. We had previously discussed a small ground sign to identify location. The signs allowed would be a 70 sq, ft. pylon 25 ft. high. We suqge�ted a sign half that size with a setback of approximately 15 it. from the Lexington Avenue right-of-way. Thus, this may be a 4 x 8 sign on a 6 x 6 post kept l�ow to the bank. Rick Jopke reviewed procedures and rec;uirements for submission for city review. Bf11 Lines is an architect wit� I�KE and is �xep�ring pl�ns for the expansior� of Fairdale shop8, which we have discuss�d c�� sev�ral occa��ons in the past. He was in ta inqu�re about the possiaili�y o� p��ting a dumpster at thQ nArthea�� corn�r oP the sita which, though scrc�ened, would b� within th� thi�-ty foo�: y�rd r�c�nirement conti�uous to Fairvic�w �4v�nu�. t�� in�'ormad him that a str�ctur� in this location would not b� appropri$t�. He� not�d thet Pier On4 was r�c�u�sting thi� from th�ir '�national o�fic��, and theraPor� it was nec�ssary for th�m to fflllow through with �n it�quiry. Stev� Grons�th is with CFR Corpor�tion, which menufactures comm�rcial claaning systems, $nd they propose to move from 984 E�st Honnepin to 29�b N. �Cleveland in space to b� l�asc�d iroan Pe�rco. Eight�► percer�t of the�r operation is manufa�cturingc equipmc�nt, and 20fi �� i'Ot�l1C�i1�' th� washing d�t�rg@nts using tho equipment. Thi� has boen revi�w@d with th� Fir� Marshal who has no problem with the product or it'� manu��cturer. Th� ma�ufacture of soape is a permitt�d use in the industrisl dis�ricts, though the "manuf�cturing o� chemi.cals" is not. It wou�ci s�:em the wholegaling of detergents in this caso is � by�product of the principal usa whi�P� is �he manufacture o� th� machines, and i� therefore permitted. L� � � CJ Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 11, 1988 7. 8. Platt (831-2326� Page # 4 Mike Platt was in with Tom Rubelson of Sign Consultants to review their proposed resigning of the former "Brick Oven Beanery" site now to be known as Digbees. We reviewed the sign area allocations based on their frontage on the Snelling Avenue service road, and suggested that the signage be done with letters attached to the wall rather than framed signs on the building. We agreed also to look at the building in terms of potential change of color, and suggested that it be painted to a dark, rich brown, picking up the color from the standing rib roof on the front area, and tk�at the light tan panels be painted a slightly ligi�ter brown with a gray tone. White letters attached to this surface would look rich and lae attractive. One of the objectives is to change the image of the building, and such a program might �aell da that. It was fUrth�r agreed that th� pylon would remain as it is at the present, thougi� moving that a�t sometime in the future might bs mor� ap�ropriate. Much of this concern regarding signage is, of cour8e, caused by the� developm�nt of what was ths former publ ic ri,ght-�f-�aay res�rved for a future intc�rch�ngQ which i� now beir�g develop�d and obscures, to a deqr�e, the visibili�y for north lbound traffic. I+=l=�t • Chris ttansen is wi�Ch tha Centre Company, manage�� of �tosedale, w�s in with D�ve Koske, graffic engin�er from Barton-�►shton, and Doug McChane. Th�y were in to rc�v�.c�w r�visc�d p��t'18 �or �he r�development and exp�nsian o� R�S�d8�.E3r �or which you will recall w�e di�cuss0d a��sYve�nl� points i.n th� last f�w wa�ks. �y way of b�ic�f �sunna�, existing building is a 1,005,529 sq. �t. gross leasable, a�nd � na�r buildinq will be 1,144,607 sq. f�. Thus, the incroasa is 1��,478 sq. ft�. Thfs results from a� co�vorsion og t�� exi�tinq Dayton's storea to t�nant sp�t��s, and th� constructi�n af a naw Dayton's t�e story de�partmon� stor� wa�s�Qrly o� the oxisting s�ore. This el.�minatas the l�idas M�fgl�r �hop, anci th� �ormex Dayton's g�rden staro, They hav@ t�aken new traf�ic counts froan 3.30 pm. to G:30 pm. on Tu�:sday of l�st wc�ek, which pxaduced somewhat diff�r�nt resulta from the previous studi�s done in 1987. Thos� counts, it was concluded, w�g� impacted b}� the recons�ruction of Sn�lling Avenue (�hen in process) and �hus they feel that the new ].988 counts �re more representakive. The previous count indicated that 60� of the traffic � �. � C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 11, 1988 Page # 5 entering Rosedale entered at the southwesterly entrance to the site. The new counts suggest that number is now reduced to 46�, and that there is a considerable impact from the northeasterly entrance off Snelling Avenue. They also noted that a high percentage of cars leaving the site do so at the Snelling Avenue exit. Perhaps this is true because to get back to Highway 36 from the southw�st corner of th� shopping center involves three left turns. It is still true that two thirds of the traffic westbound on 36 going north an Fairview Avenue is going to Rosedale, A l'1EW plan explained the entrance anc� exit off Fairview (i�etween Highway 36 and County Road B2). This allows for a somawhat more direct access to the proposed ramp and to the Penny's �ot (northwesterly portion of the si�e). Gharlie Hanchell noted his concerns for th� impact of increased traffic oriented westeriy on �2 (new bsidge, etc.) and for considerations due to the development of the former �ontrol 0ata site at t�� southwest corn�r o� H2 and Fairview. Coll�ct3.vely, these counts wil]. li}cely impaat on th� already overload€d left turn traffic sQuthbouerd on Fairview to Highway 36. �'e di�cussad the possibility of double l��t� turn slots for this traffic, end th� r�sultan� n�ed �or a dauble l�ne ac�cess for the westbQund loop to 35. t�r. Honchc�l� n�ted th� imp�rta�nce of Zooking at the b�o�ad picture versus tria imp�ct on t�e t7ay�ota Hudson praposal anly. Mr. Koski miso proposed a dou�le right �urn lane a�f i�iq�hway 3b (at the southwost on�rancc�) �h€�re a singla freQ �cc�ss riqht turn l�nQ Qxi�t� today. h1� also brought up tt�e question of tit� p�o�sibility �mr tha �e�d far additior�al r�.ght-oP-w�y on tha e�►s� �ide �off �ta� Dr�yton-Mudaon land� if these �ciditional movement�. ar� to b� provid�ci �nr. W� also expreased concer� �el�ting t� the lef� turn �r��fic out of �he so�thwestezly antran�a, r�nd t�� propo�ad intarru�stion oP the �ircumf�r�nt.i�l int�rior roa�i�tay sys�em which n4w exists. There wfluld be omp��s�.s in this plan knw�rd movam�nts into tho �ito €�t othar acct�ss �ofnts (other than the cnuthwesterly accessj. The possibility o� eliminatinq le�t turn accesa at this po�.nt �or sauthbaund traF�ic on Fai�view was a�so c�iscussed. Mr. iCo�ki is going to cQn�ider th�� cotnments and com� b�ck with revisions and additional. detaiX. Mr. Jopke a].�o revi�wed timing and procedures. � � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 11, 1988 9. 10. Page # 6 Craig rev:ewed potential inclusion for a tax it�crement program as a possible need for implementing some oF the tra�fic changes required. We believe that in the public �nterest the expansion of the center occur, and that we avail ourselves the opportunity to finan�Q need�d public improvements to make it work, not just for tho itos�dala site but for �hm other �ignificant business tr�tPic sc��ving �he area . It should be no�ed tl�at thi�s i�em f e sti11 dc��mod conficiential. � .: . i : Stev� Wi�son was in with Dan KlQcker, ��a� P�p€t & Assoc�at€�s, ta raviooa the3�� s�visad and re��inQd ��C� �nd bui�.d�ing pler�s ��r t�Q dev��opm�nt of �hQ R�=� at tha northwms� corner o� �iigi�arsy 35 and �ic� Stra�k. �"h�y h�a€� naw moved �ha bu�iciing to ba� �0 ft� and �0 it* �c�u�h o� �he rQ�idanti�l �ot� to tha �or�h, �rhiGh ae ��el �t� � big p�u�. 'Th@ r�flw �oo� l�ne r�il� �o m�3thar �� the �� ai�ht previo��ly prc�pca��c� or �os�ibl�r 2 fti, h�s�h�r. The �t�u�t�re wa�uld havc� 72 �nits whi�h cot��4ra�a to ��s� dQn��Cy �S�c�v�t��d L�i �� Q #SJ`� �1��.rT�`s�e i�V[��lse ��'6� �S7 ��f��i� ,1�fa 4ilQ previa��ly �ppravQel p�o j��t �hicta v�� 1 �gtrtly unc��r �toe al.l4we� dan��ty� ThQ�c �p��r+�m�n+�� c� l�►r�a� t�ith ��0 �q� �'�b ��r a on� bQd��o�a, �nd 1,10� �tq. �t. �ar � ��ra ��Q��A �Y�n� �ould iaa ��.00 Eor t� �a►s� t�c��cea��, �74�.0� �a� � �e�� ba�room, �r�d S�4Q, �0 �e�ar tt�t'Qc� #�droo� u�n.�t�. Tk�c� lavildir�g n�ra ��qu�,rQs thcr �r�s�rQ�atlrrg o�` �� i+�ht �n�l� �eni�sr� ��a�r �l��h th�a c�av�lo�e� prop►��e�� eo �� o�, Ch�r�,�e� �1c�r�chc��1 ro�.i��Q� +�h�� nc� �thQ� e�rrg�na��r►� ��pe�e�� a� ths cic�vc��c��Qnt aaith thc� ��ifc�n��. ��h� �u��ng h�� al ic�htly �ar�a �N�� oroe �sr p�r un�t in �� g��c�� n� o� �h� bu�lclinc�, �r►r� ar� a�er��l ��r��nc� �m��y a�` ��ao ��m�� tr unit �a ��,tr�r� by ord�n�n�€�. Ric� �o�k� ��u��a�� p�o��e�ure�� nd t�mine�, m�r��d th�� ns��d th�� th�� n�e�nc�c�c� �o �avc� � ne��gY�t�orheaod �a��C%n�. ��e#�a�� it� a�e� �f t�� arojc�ct� tri�t they� h�� s�napie��ea�d �Q��c �f+�� r��t i� i��t�er C�z��d� t8� w� ur�c�et��at�c� i�, n��r �t�t�l�� +��t�u�an�) �t��+� e��t a� �ic� �tr�Qt. Thi� dc�ve�l�pmQnt �ould cc�m� in �� c�vi��d �l�D�, ��c�n� an �ppro�v�d pro�a►g�l �ub�aitt�d by ��xdy Mow� ��va��l y��r� �ag�. �x�nio Grogo�y wa� in with kfarry O��on from �h� W�nd�cr- Faircy �r�ehit�ctur�l Pirm to rQvic�w tt�oi.r r��i�ae1 p��n� �or � � . L_J �� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 11, 1988 Page # 7 the devalopm�nt of �h� George Rei�ing land north of City Ha11. �'hSe plan �ppears to b� coming a�long very nic�ly` �nd tha revisions sho� r� 2.7� acr� park, 24.2 acrc�s far r�siden�ial� dQv�lo�ment, and 1.9 e�r� for the VFW, end 4.3 acr�s for e ncighborhoocl e��1e eitopping a��s. Th�s d�v��opm�nt wil� hav� 32�. X�v�n�g c�nit• with �-75 unit, 3 s�ory �pa�tmont buildir►��, �r�d 12 e��ht u�n�t two story buildinc�� alon� �h� w�st�r��+ ��tla�, back#�nc� up �o tt�� ingla� E�mily hou��s an t�ia� gid� o�' �� site. �b ��e�csche�d was at �hQ mo�tin� and �gr�ead t:hat �t�� p��k pt°o�os�l pxc�v,�din� �a� a 280 �t. ba�l die�o�� nd �Sa�r�#�c� �rould i�c� approptia�@. C�af� i��d�on r�v��r� �l�� t��t in��a��ae�� aa�i�n�c a��e� ��Q �n e��szQn�i��t �r��iQ�� ar e��inc� d�v�al��ent o� �ha 1��►d �� i��i��r hou��r�g ra�� o��n� ca�t��r, �ah�ah �� b�e� t�es ho]�d�r�q �on� an �.�� ►r��+ �4� c�v�r �0 ya��s. �a �e�vi��a�� uf��►��ot� rac��i�+��ro�� rrdl ��rc�� i�� h� p�� eo�l� 1r��u�Q �� c�n� �o �� o�p��n��e p��r�# � ��c��in�, a� #��, �� a��l ��it��°y ��. F�� l�a +� �� a �� d�i+��t��t� +�� ►��a�a� �� c�� o� r�qh��-ea�y ��r ��f��g� �a��nu�. �+� r��! �oc ��►� ��n�� r+��n��n+� ��► �� 1�� a �.�� 1►��11� o� �h� ��r��a�� r� e��i��i�� +�r��t. "��y �a�� +� �� 1�a�� ►��i �u�Il�►�� p�� ►�� l�ar��a�� t ��i� e��a��i �u��i��on ��k�g�. 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Rubenstein (571-7980� C� � May 4, 1988 Sheldon and his brother Charlie Rube�stein (Charlie is an attorney) own the Raseville Car Wash at B and Snel�ing, which was built 25 years ago this fall. Sheldon was in with Lennie W. Samuelson who is a cansultant on the developmen� of car wash facilities. They noted their intent was to expand the building so as to modernize the c�r wash and make it possible to wash small trucks and vans. �'he building would be �xtended northeriy 28 �eet to the property line, 70 feet across the north e�ge of �he property lir�e (the property is 70 feet wide) and down (south) toward, the �umps about 35-40 feet. The obvious problem with this id�a is t�iat this leatres absalutely no space fo� stacking room, prior to cars entering the buildinc�. W'e all aqreed that �his was a serious concern, and o£ caurse, is caused b� the iact that the land area is a�.�eady substandard for the opera�ion of the car wash. Ther� is, for instance, very little room for doing the after wash "detailing" which many peopl� li�e to do at the site. Sheldon notes that tiae ca� wash has beer� highly successful a11 og these years e�ce�t that la�t year was a bad year du� principally td the highway cQnstructi.on. We tal}ced abc�ut the traffic problems in th� area and the iac� that the three devel�pments on the corner of County Rc�ac� B and Snelling were all substandarcl, with inadequate setbacks, parking, and difficult traffic access cor�ditions. We reviewed the recent effor�s nn the part of the city and other land �.'wners in the area ta dive�t the tx�f�ic to the private easement on the side o� the car wasYY, and vacate the public service road to the west. Mr. Rubenstein noted that he i�ad had se�eral meetings with Gene Peterson, and w�s upset that Mr. Petersan was apparently reporting that the cost of the car wash would be something less than the i.5 million that Sh�ldon says is his quoted price. We also reviewed the advantages to the three substandard � � � • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 4, 1988 2. parcels being redevelopment. well. G Page # 2 purchased and the possibilities for We suggested they think in these terms as Charlie Rubenstein is also a partner with Martin Lebedoff, who are the owners of the land and building leased to the Perkins Restaurant development to the north. The bottom line appears to be that due to the age of the Rubenstein's and Lebedoff, they may not be interested in re-investing in new development in the area, though their properties would benefit as sellers and owners of the restaurant site. We suggested a multi-storied structure at the corner which would produce adequate tax increment to likely make the whole idea work. It could be that Mr. Rubenstein's proposal to expand the car wash is a matter of positioning himself for a potential condemnation. The key ingredient to make the redevelopment and rerouting of traffic work at this intersection (northeast quadrant) would be a major developer with more significant development then proposed by the Peterson's over the past several months. This is particularly true in as much as the Target people have pulled their building permit, thus di.sallowir►g inclusion of that improvement as part of a tax increment proposal as currently regulated by amended Minnesota Law (88 session). That law, Craig Waldron informs us, no 1Qnger allows 90 days after the pulling of the permit to set up a tax increment district to include the improvement increment. �awrence (571-2995� Jack Lawrence runs a sign campany known "Sign Crafters" and one of the signs they put up recently in Roseville is for the Stuart Anderson Cattleman's Restaurant. The sign is located closer to the public right-of-way then the thirty (30} feet allowed. We checked the building permzt records with Gordy Bes�th, and found that the permit was based with the written notification that the setback shall be thirty (30) feet, although a drawing had k�een submitted showing it at� 10 fee�. On this drawing the inspectors had noted that the 10 feet was not approved. We suggested to Mr. Lawrence �hat he simply move the sign back at a location further north on th�e site where the thirty (30) foot setback can be accommodated. We noted to that the site plan on �ahich the sign location was indicated was the same site plan that was approved by the Planning Commission and Council. This clearly showed the sign to be placed on the island, contiguous to the next row of parking to the east. CJ C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren Page # 3 • May 4, 1988 Mr. Lawrence noted that he thought the Federal Land Companies who are in the buildings to the north, had their sign closer than 30 feet. We checked that permit record and found that it was issued on 8-27-g2 and was clearly delineated tc be thirty (30) feet back from the public right-of-way. 3• Bartlet 1333-8210) Jim Bartlett, contract owner of the Ruan trucking site, was in with Eileen Bayless (realtor) and Dan Runney from Real Estate Development Company, which has done a variety of development, including that of "Public Storage Inc.��. The latter builds self storage or mini-storage facilities around the country, with 750 in the United States. They showed us some examples of new transit mini-storage development, including ones in which the access to the storage units is oriented inwards and not visible from the contiguous public streets. They noted such a development they had done at T.H. 61 and Highway 8 in Forrest Lake. � We noted that the development of mini-stdrage at the Ruan site had been discussed previously along with auto malls and other forms of development considered ina gateway to the office park to the south, ppropriate at th� l�nd is zoned �-4, within which mini-storage tis t ot and likQly would not be allow e d. After this discussion Mr. �artlet brought in Ron Erickson, architect with KKE, who showed the staff a very preliminary site plan indicating the development Af a Rodeway Inn facility �ith 130 - 150 rooms. the northwest corner o� the site� whi h� m ght be wh t nt at cailed "an upscale MacDonalds'� hey of the regular restaurant chains are inrthetRosevilleam most area, though MacDonalds is int��ested in a second site kin this portion of Roseville. We discussed the of getting a more typical sit down restaurantp on i helsite rather than "fast iood". C r a i g W a l d x�on reviewed other res taurants looking in the market area including the Olive Garden and possibly a"Marie Calendax��, • to pursue further the design and layout for a rRodeway andna restaurarat which would be required in any case, whether it is MacDonalds or some other operator). Craig Waldron noted thatu ar a o cupants Motel expressed their desire for a full service restaurant haor � something similar, to serve the market area that has considerably expanded with new facilities to the northwest. � � � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 4, 1988 4. 5. Page # 4 The Erickson site plan also indicated a six bay self service car wash on the southwesterly corner of the site, which may be appropriate depending upon the use and scale on the remainder of the site. Reiling (483-1941) George Reiling was in with Dan Hunt of Coldwell Banker to talk about the possibility of moving his service station site north of City Hall to the northeast corner of Woodhill and Lexington Avenue. Zoning on thi� site is limited business, with an R-2 zone for the contiguous lot to the east. We suggested the re2oning of these lots Eor a service station would be very difficult in as much as there is considerable impact on the s�.ngle fam�.ly homes immediately to the north and east. Mr. Reiling proposed to keep a 286 x 286 foot site where the existing service station is at the northwest corner of Woodhi.l� and Lexington Avenue. His intended �aurpose for that site would be for a branch drive in bank. Mr. Waldro� sugg�sted that the drive :n bank might be more appropriate at the northeast corner, rat'�e� than the service station. We noted that a bank is a perm�9:ted use in a B-1� district, and if oriented toward Lexington, without using the residential (R-2) lot to the east that m�ght be a possibility. Mr. Reiling agreed that the development of a service station on th� corner would be difficult and of considerable impac� to th� residence to the northeast. A bank well done might be workable. We all aqreed that the retaining oi the s�rvice station site as it now exists would be wrong, and perhaps disastrous to the redevelopm�nt of that site as a part of the Can-Am's neighborha�d center. We soaggested that a eonvenience store with gas sales cr�uld be added to the center in �ith�r the south�rly or northeasterly end of the strip cer�ter. We gave Mr. Reiling a drawing showing how this might be done in con��r,t� and indicating the advantages of opening the corn�r and providing direct access off Woodhill o�posite Civir Center Drive. They are goinq to consider their options further, and be back with further design proposals. Karolis (�29-560Z) Peter Karolis was back wi�h Ray Dana to consider again the redevelopment of the Harry Kath property at the southeasterly corner of Roselawn and Lexington Avenue. Mr. Karolis, you will recall, had previously tried to purchase 19Aces's" service station at �his corner, and has been unable to do so. The remaining L shape property owned by Mr. Kath Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 4, 1988 � 6. � Page # 5 has a shape and dimension that makes it relatively di�fu�c�he to develop a strip cecornern tMr a Karolis �i dicates tha� he Ace property on the had made offers to purcha 250 000 pdoll.ars.of a considerable sum of money, a reported $ , We reviewed the zoning on this property, a portion of which is zoned limited business �uia ber made to r purchase the SAce that further attempts sho property in as much as Mr. Karolis indicates that they can afford to pay that kind of money to make it work. Mr. Karolis is a partner in e pavilionRPlace1Center Wh They also oriqinal developers of th are currently developing "Calhoun Village"' which is on the north side of Highway 7(�lso known as 7.,ake Street in this area) on the sit� of the old Thompson I�umber Yard somewhat west of the Calhoun B�ach Club. f� Mr. 1Carolis's proposed ciev�elopment ir�dicated 12, 275 sq. . of buil3ing which will include a condeniWhich is rs milar gasaline s�les anei an Auto Max, a facility to the Midas �Suffler f�oP• A�ehs st tion ts te, he notescris or ab�u►t i0,o�0 sq. 2a��5a sq. ��• � .. . �. � � ' � �im Ducidelston owns two lots on �kh me ain�whic hey �liv�s occupied by � �e�ther subs�antia iie a18o owns a can�iguous lot to the north+east, which he uaes as a guest house. �,Q has built a surface shop on th� site af the old w�li and pump house, wh3.ch measur�s 19.5 ft. by 27 ft. He is conside�ing selling his lar�er home and building a�mall�r home on ��Q s�te occupied by th� gu�st �o�ge. �te discuss�ci various �aays in which he could either �nove ti�g shog building or adjust th� 1ot line to $�a� d°most this structure in tha exis�ing location. It �1�P a�prQp�'i��e to move the structure rather tk�en have a deleterious effect on eithe b� �$t and� loca ionioF� su h�an We noted the rul�s for set Yt �ppeared this accessory structure on single family lots. r8view justifies a deci�and the moving o�l�he shop building re�lav�lopment of the �Qt northeasterly as an accessory stru�ture. We also �ev�.�w�c� the procedures and �iming fc�r shoreline approval. ❑ Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren • May 4, 1988 7. Derrick 944-1996 � � 8. • Page # 6 Roger verrick was in with Mike Sa�ton to review possible locations for the development of his newly created townhouse "Z" lot development. This is a system of detached one story units which he is building in Eden Prairie and Minnetonka. The density is approximately 5 per acre. They have constructed their model home on a Minnetonka site and found through interviEws with potential users that they want more upscale options, including better kitchens, fireplaces, and in general, a more expensive decor. They are looking for a site in Roseville to develop similar concepts. We reviewed various properties as indicated on the Comprehensive Plan appropriate for town house development or approximately this density. We noted ta that a variety of townhousing forms are not currently av�ilable in Roseville, and that the market could lik�ly be strong. Most of Roseville's multi--family housing development is in the�form of apartments, many of which were condominiumized in the early 19a0�s. He expres�ed a strong int�res� in Rosevill�. Rick Jopke knew Mr. Derrick from a dev�lopment in RiahField where he was involved at 66th and Lynndale. Arnie Gregory was back to review revised plans £or the development of the Reiling property north of City Hall. P1a�ns indicate three 75 unit buildinga equal to 225 units, with t�aelve 8 unft buildinq� �qu�ling 96 un3.ts �or overall total of �21 units. Park ded�cation proposal now includes a ba�ll field in �hg approximat8 area where th� ball field now exists, plus �ccess to woodhill in the area b�tween the VFW and �the sxngle family homes to the west. Th� ballfi8ld i�dicated a 260 ft. ba��line which we suqested ahould be ir�craased to 280 �t. This coulei be done by reducing the size of th� area supposed to be sold to the VFw to the nor�th of the present VFW sitQ, and increase it sightly �o the w�st, This may include a pos�ibility For som�e joint parking between the VFw parking area and the parking area to sexve the dual p�ark site. �i��'� is now a pathway �ystem that ti�s tHe whole development together, with vehicle circulation access off Lexing�on at one pa�nt, and a secondary access of� the ex�ension af County Road C-2. The site areas include 23.4 acres for the housing (321 units) 2.87 acres for the park, and 1.67 to be sold to the VFW, and 4.3 acres for the neighborhood retail center. Mr. Gregory noted that �hey Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren May 4, 1988 Page # 7 would propose to upgrade the plan quality to include an irrigation system for the entire site, with relatively large unit sizes and underground parking for the apartments. The eight unit buildings would be two stories only, and would back up to the single family homes to the west, which would be provided with a transition in the form of a berm ar�d extensive landscaping along the west side of the site. A propased ponding area would be built near the centei of the site, providing a central recreational facility to include a swimming pool and a recreational structure. We noted the setbacks should be increased for the parking the neighborhood center, and that a dedication o� 16� feet of right-of-way along Lexington Avenue would rie required as indicated Yn the Coun�y�s thorouc�hfare system. W� also nated the need for sep��ration of the aparttnent parking area from the access roadway system to improve safe�y and aesth�tics. '��hey indicated their intent to make thi� change as well as the others we discussed. They will ka� back for further review in the near fu�ture� with the intent oP �ubmitting an a�aplica�tion for developmant appraval by tha end of May. Most o� this l�nd is now zoned $hopping �Qnter� �r►d �� suggest that th+e devel.opment o� �he land gen�rally as proposed will b� in the Cammunity fnter�s� prov�ding 321 addi�ional living unit� condorainiums which w�11 be in the form of 8-plexes �nd a housing farm no� currently �va�l�bl� in Rose�cille. Each oi' these units, incidently ha�s �at� attached garaye with an �dditioa�al out door parking spa�ce. �lr. Greg�ry ��.so dis�usged ttaQ imp�ct oP pot�ntial �ax increment financing as related to �a��iens of the site, �nd the timing for such potentia�. inr�oavem�nt. This ov�r�3�I project wauld app�ar to be a consi�er�bl� �ssat to the city, It would be dc�nc� as � singl� development Cwf tho�ut phasing) , �'h�y will bo ba��ck a�ith r+�vi�i,ons to th� p�ans v�ry soon. / . L .. + � � � � Jahn Davies lives at 677 Neinel i7rivo, �nd accupiQs � home c�esigned by Elizab�th and Winstan Close, w�:ll known residential architects (a�d a prof�ssor of archit�ctur�� in the Twin �Cities. Th�y �ave lived th�re about 15 years and propose now to adc3 a v�ry att�ra�t3ve porct� ta �h� northeasterly sidc of th� bui.lding. We r-Pviewed the developm�nt �lans and concur that it conf��r;,r�,d to the shoreline developm�nt regulafifons, and can be appropriately processed for shoreline development a�p�roval. � � � � ' �!� 2� 3 g 4� 5 i2Z � r . 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April 27, 1988 Stov� wilson a� tnc� B�tqer Ca�pora�ion, was in with D��n ��e�ck�r, it�"C�1��QC� �ro�a Pop� A��socist�s, t� �Qv�ew �h�air �Qnt�tive devQ�opm�nt propos�l �or th� �-'� �on�a� prop��ty �t the� no�thwQ�t qu;�dran� of Rice Str�Bt and Ff�ghw�y 36. "�his �fta wes o��+��nal�y ownec� by Gcrd�a Ha�te, +�nd con��tc�cl o� 3.6'7 �cre� �to whi�,`� th�y noa p�a�os�d to �►d4d .26 �erea� �aakinq � tot�1 0� 3.9�. 'Th►ea a�ditian�l . �+� ��eas �s �hQ land b�hir►d �the� Coun�try ��fi�e�n whi�h waa rQ��ra�� o� e��parros�on o� th�t gca��ure:nt, bu� is nav be�nc� ,�o�d �#��h �1�� l��ger pareel �onQ� R-�� ta �.he ac��t. �"h� or�g�n�el p�o�po�ai h�d 6� uni+�� a�d �ra� a��ro andl ��r�Q s�ory build�nr�� i�h �� av+��a�l h�is�ht �ou �rnaugh �h�� +��ae ��%�e�n�� l �v�n� �bo�cr �t�� h��l �on �t�nnQ�c,�a ��Q�t� �aai�+�� h�� r►�e�r �� t�� ou�1�. �"he nara ��c�� h�� 6� ��t�, r�i�t� � q��r� ai�rra��on �� 92�D �nc� �ho ��re�t �laor Ql�v�+��on �+� ��0. T�ra ��a� �a�k i� �t ��'� w��h �� hc�r ��n �h� a��i:��n�� p�� 1. `�haa n��r p�op�� n��udi¢►c�: uil� ��►+�u�e ��g�ge� �7 ��n�� - � b�t��om �� u�� - � b��oo� � ur��k� - � ��c�� un�� o� ��n� �C�s� l��s�� t� �xo��ae � 1��r th�n nor�� o��c�� c� thu� �h�� i� �p�� o� '�� c��s a� +�.he ��m�� l�v��. Ch�r��i� iaonche�l no�c�d ��r�t ��c� o��g��al ��o�� i��+�t��s� �ond�ng en lt��ot l�nd to �h� ��u�1�. �"h�� e r�oi�r� �� cont��ct �Npat �@��rdir�� th� con�i�uat�on o� �N�� o�►c��. ThQ narth �etb�ck w�� g �e�t �n �h� ar�c�ir►�1 �rapas�%, �nd t1�ie �prop��al �� approx��►�tely �ho ��c�a. t�� ugg��t�d �h�t the�y t�y �nd �a�Q tha �ui�df�ng ��rtM�r �outh, the��+�►by+ ir�erom�ing tha $etback �o tho �:�nulc� Esmil�r rQsidc��e� to �h� � � � Pl�nning Ofiice Houxs Howard Dahlgren April 27, 1988 �. Page # 2 north. Thi� would also creat� a more de�irable e�vironment �or thc� units facing north, and, as is typical, half the unit� faco north and h�lf th� unit� fac� sauth i.n this tloubl� loaded corridor build$ng. Tt�a r�ntal rang� �ss ��OO�pO for on� b�draom (g50 ��q. ft. ), S�oo.oa �or � two �odroom (a�ao sq. fr.�, �r�� Sgao.00 �ox a th�rea badrQom t 1200 �q. gt. ). Wa loak�d �+� �hc� �ccAs� praposed a�nd natad th�►t tlho c�rivr�wa�r c�a�ae� tho �ot �rQ�tad �o� +thc� �-1 (of�i�e building) �it� at the� im�aadiat� na�tharQ�t �oa��ar of �tic� Str��it �nd �h� ws�thound �iic�h�t�y �G r��ap. �� pp�a�� h�� rc��d�r�ay esn b� m�vad �o a� t� �void thi�c conPii�to I� �pp��r� �h�t movl�rq �his bu�lcilrr� C� �t�� v��h �ra��d �n�alv�r ��ving an � ln�h �Qwe�r l f nca. �`his l�.r►e� �un� ��t��r�r�t thr��gh the p�o�erty, ��d w�E�an cr»n��ructa�d r�ss an th� p��p��ty l�n� a� c�n� a� �hc� prapc��ti�t�. �"trsa to��1 p��rc�ti #�� n ��a�t��g� o� ��oa� �p��r�ic��, o�,c� o� r�h:i�h �� ► iang n��o� ��r�� eor,�ig�a�r� �o �h� �",�i� �� rir�t�t-�P-��. In �t��r �a��e� i�t ��r� +�h��t �►ov�n� s�t��:r� ��l��t�v�1� ��a�ll, ��a�� r�+� �aou�� lo�r ��v�r�� tNca ��i��df o�� o �1�� gau�h ar��h, r��ee ��'� �ur��n� ean�i��►t�:on� ��c��r� to �c� m vo�tha�h�ic� oi��c�iv�. �e� �lac rao�c�d tt��t ��.�� Ci�a� �b�►�Au� �d�it�an��i �p�►�c� �w�il��a�e, �the� cic�n��y �c�ulc� !�� i,n�rc��ar� �� i�l�tly �a ��h��►� 7� u�i��, �+�th ��n.��l ��aa�t ��r �h� i�r�cl o� t1�a n�,i�h1�o�� to �h� no��t�. �� i�� i��a�ld�r�g c�n be� a�o�r+�d �urCh+�r ��u�i�� t�� l�n ��r� bc� �g��t�tl� ��rov�d b�n+�& �tin� �� oe�u��r�� nr� �t�� e�n��g�o�� n��Nt�o�s a� �oe�l� 1» "�t��y ��c� ��a�ng ta ��n�id�� h��+� �h$n�� ►d �� ta��k �o�n �or �dc� i� � ��r►a 1 re�rt � ��r . ��. ��_ �1ark C�� awrr� �.� ��rc�a �o�t� c�� tha r��r+�� tr��k� �ovti� o� c�utt�y RQa�! C. lf��k F,�ra„em�fl i� �r� a�ci��tc�G�t �n� p�cQ��n�e�d a pr@� im�n�ry �ito �lac� �ar thQ �atsl �aciQvc�l�gp��n� o� �ha �ite� t� �a m�ni-etcr�gr� an� � aar w��h ��,��,��►„ 1li� pl�n .��►c�udad � tot�►1 �� ix i�uilctin��, o�o ot r�hi�t� wr�uld br� +� two �tory ��r�ctu�cQ ��t int� tt�� i��ll�icl�� l�k� �n c�xgaa��cl b�sQmant. Total �q. t�ot�ac�e wa�ld be 9�9, Q�ag ��. �t. Tho �o� f��r�vieQ c�r ��h a�oulcl b� i�n ti�� r�nt �aP thQ buildinr�, b�t w�ll ��t b�e�: �ram tt�a fronk �ro�aor�y lino, I� app�ars sg though ttacs l�yout didnEt h�v� c�uite anough �paco �or s��cking nor ap�c� �or drying o� the ct►rs r.n�t�rw�rds, which would br� �ormal in thi� typ� of c�r wa�h ��il�.ty. T�e�X talk�d �bout convarting som� oF tl�a Planning Office Hours Page # 3 Howard Dahlgren � April 27, 1988 storage spaces in the front to offices. We noted that it would be very important to design the building so as to commit the use of the land and building so as to provide adectuate parkincr We cautioned against any attempt to gradually convert the spaces from mini-storage to offices because of the effect on parking, security, and circulation. It appeared that this site can be well developed for these purposes, with some adjustments in the plan to provide adequate parking. 3. Busse (757-7568� Rick Busse is one of six chilclren who grew up on his family's 4.15 acre site north of Larpentuer, somewhat westerly of St. Albans. This land is shown at m�dium density on the Comprehensive Plan (since 1980) and is contiguous to a site to the east owned by Roger Linder, whos� land is also shown as medium density. The family home remains on the site (near the southwest corner), and Mr. Busse has been looking for developers who might be interested in acquiring the land. � He had with him Chuck Cook, a developer from Coon Rapids, who k�rought in a very preliminary proposal indicating the construction of two apartment buildings with outside garages and two single family lots, one of which would be occupied by the existing home. Because hali of this land is encumbered by a pond, this layout with 41 units was very, very, tight and there was no parking space in front of the garages as required by ordinance. It was obvious that this was not the correct technique for developing this land, nor did we consider it appropriate to mix two isolated �ingle family lots in this small development. We suggested that if th�y keep the t�ouse, they should combine it with a town house development, rather then maintain on� or two separate single family lots. It is obvious that if the parking is put underground, al units can be put on this property very nicely. The value of that kind of proposal to that kind of development to the estate could be approximately $3,500.00 per unit although, in this case, the remaval of the house may be appropriate. The alternative option is to develop the land into eight single family lots. �3ecause of the very high value placed on single family lots in Roseville today, this method may also be an economically viable alternative. W� sugge�t�d �, that they continue to look for a multi-family housing ,' � • • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 27, 1988 4. Page # 4 developer and/or look at the economics of the single family lot development concept. O'Meara (833-0246) Barry 0'Meara was back to look at some of the implications of completing the partially constructed town house proposal west of Lexington, south oi the trailer park. The construction of the access roadway (on private land as originally approved and partially constructed) for the placing of this road way on the public right-of-way is a matter of considerable importance. Charlie Honchell reviewed with Barry the implications of either approach. It would appear that half the cost of building the public road (attributable to the 0'Meara site) may be about the same as the cost of building a private road. It is noted, however, that the water and sewer lines are already placed under the existing private road. The road location is important to the site plan in the sense that a revision to the site plan featuring one story town houses would be more feasible if the roadway is placed on the public street. Mr. Honchell noted that when a development occurs next to • the public right-of-way which is not being built, the city ordinances actually require the posting of a bond 1� times the cost of the improvements, sa when that improvement is done the money is there to cover the assessment. Barry also expressed his concern with the impact on the bankers who own the land whn may be required to put up additional cash depending upon the roadway salution. �� It is obvious that the best solution for the property is to build all or portions of the street on the public right-of- way. The problem here is th$ impact upon the trailer park to the north which is for sale, and has been for a number of years. This land is zoned business, with the westerly end zoned R-2. This long and narrow tract will benefit considerably from the construction of this street, even though the street may not necess�rily go through to the residential area to the west. The bottom line is the construction of the street would be a considerable benefit to the trailer park land (when redeveloped), Charlie noted the concern of trying to defer an assessm�nt against the trailer park to some future point. We did discuss the possibility of using a tax increment feature to cover the additional cost of the road. This may, in fact, be a potential solution best for all concerned. M�. O'Meara is going to r�view revised concepts, consult � � . • � • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 27, 1988 with the bankers, with the staff. Page # 5 and discuss appropriate solutions further 5. Kaufhold (484-1415) Gerald Kaufhold was in with Tom Dunwell to review their latest revision to their proposed development for the Lexington School site. This plan is now a more defendable proposal involving eight lots along the south and west side of the properties. Two lots previously fronting on Lexington Avenue have been removed, and the 10� land dedication parcel is extended to Lexington Avenue. The result is a 5.16 acre parcel containing the original school and parking, eight single family lots, and a.88 lot for park dedication (37,982.7 sq. ft.) equaling a total of 8.17 acres. Mr. Kaufhold spoke rather differently regarding the future of the 5.16 acre parcel containing the school. He notes that though there is a two year lease to District 916, there are options to renew which may continue indefinitely. He notes that the school has been there 12 years, and their program for decentralizing the facilities is very uncertain. They apparently paid something like $200,000 dollars per year in rent, and Mr. Kaufhold notes that they can rent it for as long as they like. He notes there are 100 people employed at the site and of course, the facility is for special intermediate handicapped children. There may be some question as to the extent to which this use is ��temporary". We noted that in our opinion, the principal question with xespect to the use o€ the Lexington School site is the preservation of an adequate neighborhaod park tQ serve the community in the public interest. Under the plan as currently revised, this can only be accomplished if the �ity accepts a 10� dedication, and acquires the 8 lots, which would produce a 3.01 acre site. Mr. Kaufhold has scheduled the lot sale at $50,000 for each of the three westerly most lots, $40,000 for the next three lots to the east, $46,000 for the next lot, and $45, 000 for the lot at the corner of Lexington and Eldridge. This totals $385,000.00. Some assessments would be applied for utilities and, of course the cost of platting, etc. Mr. Kaufhold noted that for park sale purpose, he would sell the land for $360,000 ($120,000 per acre). The previous proposal some months ago included park land availability at $2.27 per sq. ft., or $91,881 per acre. Obviously, developable residential land in Roseville is not cheap. Mr. Kaufhold further noted that Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren Page # 6 � April 27, 1988 he has all of the lots spoken for. Mr. Kaufhold notes that he will sell the property to someone else for $1.3 million. Craig Waldron notes that he is meeting with potential multi- family housing developers who may be interested in this site. 7. Greqorv (332-5544) Arnie Gregory, the Manager of Project Development for Can-Am, was in with Daniel Hunt of Coldwell Banker and Harry Olsen (227-0655), architect with Windsor-Faircy. � They prepared revised plans for the �eorge Reiling site north of City Hall. They presented a very attractive site plan with 225 units in 3 story structures, with parking underground, and 96 units in 8 unit manor houses. The portion of the site at the northwest corner of Woodhill and Lexington was retained for a neighborhood center and a bank. The retail center would have 30,000 sq. ft., and the bank a 5,000 sq, ft. Under this scenario, the stat%n X natthe corner would be remove d, w h i c h M r. R e i l i n g wou l d propose to move across Lexington to the northeast corner, where the land is zoned 8-1. � This may be feasible if the orientation is retained toward Lexington, and the R-2 land to the east of this site would remain so as to protect the single family area to the east. In any event, taking out the existing service station at the corner would substantially imprave the overall development and appearance �of this development. The plan also included a 40 ft. wide park strip along the west side of the property contiguous to the single family homes fronting on Griggs. Bob Bierschied was present at the meeting, and noted ':zat this strip would no� be a heipful park dedication. We coniirmed that a pathway landlocked behi.nd thes� lots and the 8 unit buildings to the east would be difficult to super�ise, and has not been found to be a successful solution. Mr. Bierschied suggested that a larger concentration of park near �he south end in conjunction with the VFW site would be more appropriate. We noted ways in which this could be done, and suggested that the walkway be on the frontage streets serving the manor houses, providing access to the park area and the neighborhood center for pedestrians. We noted too, that the stub street at Judith be used ior pedestrian and k�icycle access only, and n�t be extended as a vehicular access. The overall development plan seemed to � work quite well with the question of the moving of the . • � C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 27, 1988 7. Page # 7 service station being a principal concern. If the station is not moved, Mr. Reiling apparently proposes to keep a parcel 186 ft. x 186 ft. at this corner for future development of a bank. The best of the preliminary plans presented shows the bank contiguous to the VFW (setback from the corner), thus keeping the corner open for parking and visibility for what could be a very attractive convenience center to serve the neighborhood and the proposed development on the site. They are going to revise their drawings based on our conference, and then be back soon with prelimanar The land is zoned sho ' g 1� P1�ns. Comprehensive Plan spl su h n� thu �,d a 2 re isionWnton the Comprehensive Plan, and rezaning a portion of the land from business to residential would be appropriate. A planned unit development and a preliminary plat with 10g park dedication would be part of the process. We emphasized the negd to protect the interest of the single family homeowners to the w�st, and it would appear ti�at the development of two $�ory manor houses, with sufficient �ear yard spac� and a park area, could accomplish thi� goal. • a • • Ken Hecker is w�th the Rockfoxd Res�arch Corporation, who rent space at 1751 West Caunty Road B(northwe�terly corn�r of B a�nd Nerschel). They have 110 employees and rent approximately 6000 sq, ft., which fs almost al� of the second floor in this structure at this site. to put a pylon sign 35 ft. off the right-of-wa�y of rCoun�ty Road B, about 104 f�, wssterly of the existing sign on the corner. This beinq a corner lot, it is allowed two pylon s�,gns, thus this signage can be built in accordance with ordinance regulet�ons. � � � 2� 3�., 4, � 5 Neo � Q �. BJ j� C � �. � i D � �..� a E �` � G � H �ss 1 � J � K � I � 2•� 3� 4� �� ROSEIifLLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS �2?•�� OAHLGREN SHARDLOW 5 UBAN -�� vd � ., _ � C�S � � � � .� �r _ � . w i'�i��, � 1 ��. 1 t�d $ 0 � � � � � � r � �e � `r � � � � + �O n� .r •y��w�'.,,, �Pa."`.wc��c�'�:..._rf:°`-v"y�r"+.,...�_'. ..�' :, � -a -a: ar .. � � _ --�� _ - p 2U �� 13 �� 14 �i 15 3�; 16 � 17 �tl t8 �, 19 -y r • � �Q � il � 12 �, ti � Planning Office Hours page # 2 • Howard Dahlgren April 13, 1988 the total sq. ft. area would continue to conform to the zoning ordinance. With respect to the canopy sign, they agreed to r�design the canopy and thP sign so as to have it constitute a wall sign. This could be done by carrying through the wall detail from the building through the canop� signs, and reclucing the sign area so as to be an attached sign rather than constitutQ the face of the canopy only {as originally pro�os�d). We noted that an elec�ronic sign with a traveling m�ssage has bean rul�d a flashfng sign, but that in a prQvious bank applicatian a tim� and tempar�tur� continuously lit sign was allow�d �� anci 1:30 tninutQ intcrval�, follow�d by a 13 minute fixed messaga. td� sugg�st�d th�t within thas� p�aram@ters, tha sign �rould rrot ba "�l�ashinc� sign"' and coulr� b� �pprovQd. taQ �g��d th�t they could rQv��aQ tl�c�i� �ign proposa�ls witk�in tha�o p�ar�maters i��ar ��ub�aguan� revi�w. �d� al�a discus�ac� f��u�co rsmific�tions of tho�r loc��ian as it re�lr�tos pr�ncipall�r to thc r�dQvolo�me�nt �rQ� to the� wQst. �Q all �r�re��d ths� �he �aot�n�i�l �s axe�llQnt �nd � th�t th�ir �acility �f�ou�d a��rk we11 on tt��i�- �i�e. 3. �!t�� C�3_�-0��'�) �rry 4'A6a�ra �� pro�o�ing �o rac�mvelap �nd �ini�� tha 16 unit FUD �u�t �au�h s�� t1�c� '�tr�atle� court�"', �r�ast� o� i,�x�n�tor►. ��rol �'�nntn� �� i�l�rri�1 L�yneh ��C�-��04) w�s� �r3�k� �fr.. 0°t•ta�� nd arill bQ �A�kating �hc�� e�nc1 �roduc�. Mr. O'�1Q�r� �e��d that ha �s ��11 nego��n� wi�h �i�Q l��nk to ��D��s ��cr the� ��oj��t. WQ di�eu�a�r� � rc�vi�ad �l�n �hicf� itrclude�d �r� o��Q� o� tw� onQ ��ory� to�n hou�� uni�� t ��ct� �n�i o� � �aur story ��ruc�u�� r��tt �e�a �to��+ �n�t� in th+� cant��. '�ho ot�he�r ��t�on �e�u�d l�e� ��u� on� �te�y ur�i��, though thi� �uilding ��ce� ��itian�l lenc��h �ro�i would r�ault ir, �t�c� �c��b�ek ai i0 �c�Qt �t� the sic3o lo� con�ig�a�u� to the �a�� a� tha t�omes �o tt3e� �outh of th� �itQ. �ach unit woulc! P��vQ two e�,�r�g��, �,�u� �dcif+�ion�� t��o �o� paarking in ��o�nt o� thQ gAr�ge an�l o�Ner :��a�ee� oP� �hc� �cc��s c�rivQ. �hc�� z�� o� tt�e� o�inion t��t �ha an4 �tory units would �ttrAct a good m�rkcat in Ro�evil�ta w!'ar� thay p��ce�v� m�ny parsares �o r��ida in their �in��a g�mily hoan�s, but in need of ��comme��i�tions fit for the �1dQrly. at wes �grecd tM�t A rovi�ed PUD would be �t�� a�pro�ri�ita mathod of handling tha revi�a�l de�ic�n, �nd it would ba mo�t � importan� for �h�m to rala�e diroct�y to thQ nQight�ors reg�rding thd G11dt1�G� in coniigur�ta.o�. It would ��ear tt�a� • �_� � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 13, 1988 4. Page # 3 the units, as proposed, would be more attractive on the site in the sense that they would be lower. However, the setback to the rear proPerty lines may be less depending upon the configuration of the one or two story units. The designs were quite att�active, though very preliminary with gable roofs and undulating facade. We �lso discussed thQ question of where to put �he access road. Additional space taken up by th� one �tory units makes it necessary to build an access romd on a public street, We suggested that public xoad construGtion would be the most ��proprfate if it can be wor}�ed out financially as a public improv�ment. It app0ars obvious that such a stroot would ultima��ly b�naFit the ��dQrrelopmont o� thc� trail�r eou�t which, as wo ur�d�rstand it, is �va�i].�blc� �t a p�rfca of onc� n�ill�on dolZars. Thnugh nca c�ne kno�� when red�v��apm�nt o� thc� trailQr court may occur, �t would ap��rar thA� ult�imAtoly i� will, in �a� m�uch as� thQ pra�ert�► �� or �al�, �Mough tho timin� i� unkn�wn, WQ �ugg�sta� th�at t��. O't�lQAr� df�acuss tht� pui�l ic raad qu��tion wi�h i�r. Charles t�lon�hc�1 �, so et� to ��vicw �.Mc� o�t�ion� �o� aecom�li�hi�ng t�hat �p�aro�ch. H�r. O'Mo�rs rrotad tha� h� �r�l� bc� c�mployin� �n ��cch�tac� �o px@par� the ��nal do�i�n�, sncf th�� N� layo�t r��y inelud� tho ta�e �p�i�vn�, dc��ndinc� up�n �ha nu��c o�' ona �nd �taao �to�y �true�ure�Q, 'I"!�a tatel numb€�r uniC� would b�a� th� �am��a es �rgviou�ly �p��covQd, �end thc� c�cn�i�� o�ald �rcr��in ��ic� �ama. .� ... � : .. . y. ,1 _-. _ {. Fr�nk RQkaa�k� 1 iv�� , 122� �o��t�ir�e �o��, ��! �� 3��r�n t��nc�ing 1�� hou�a �nd �ap��ein� �MQ c��r�� a� p�ov�,ou�� ap�sr�au�d by tM€� e�ty. t13�� nQi�t�ba� �o th� �s�� s t�z�uc�t�� irsan C962-�2�5� j, wt�o t�� ca�pr¢��sc��l ��t�e ca�n�artn� eo t�i�r. Rcku�k�, r�gardine� tha �e�dlevQ�opna�nt o� hi� �ita. Mr. V�ug�r� wsn�ctd �o rc�viQw t1�r�� cance�n� wi��i ��anr�t�o�ly fra� �i�y► h�ril �o �s �o hae�e �� undQ��an�ing wit�� F9r. F�t�ku��i �� to the� mAnnc�� in cc�rt�in dat��B o� �t�� oa��ttcu��ion wc�u�c� b� h�ndiad. ade, th�e�e��or�, ag�c�� a �ssvi��r th��c� i�e�m� �ith bo�h g�antlamen �nd �aul� hopca �h�t a��, �nc�Q��r�dirrg �oul� b� re�chec� �t�c� pu� into ��act. �'h� �tc�m� rii�cu��eri r�nd $olu�inn� �►�rivae� �t warQ �� low�; 1. B�y windb�e on �t�ca Q��t �idQ o� tha l�o�� d�ed to th� de�3gn �ft�r i�'s ��px�ova� by th� �;ity �ill ba elir�in�tad, ar�d A str�ight window will bQ �u��tit�at�d. (Th� b�y c,x�andQd P►a�th��r tnward Mr. i,�►r�on' � pra��r�.Y, �nd this portf on of tha l�ou�a wz�� built at thc� s�mQ 3 �oot sQtb�ck th�t w�►s ��aproved for tha gn�age) . � � � • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 13, 1988 2. The roof runoff on would be managed with the runoff from going ! the east side new downspouts on Mr. Larson's Page # 4 of the structure so as to prevent property. 3. The retaining wall, built on the east side of Mr. Rekuski's property from tk�e structures toward the lake, will be stepped back and reduced from 4 ft. to two 2 ft. walls, thus not requiring a fence. This wal� is treated timber, and will be rebuilt with the same material. 4. Al1 ti�e yard work, including the repair to Mx. I,arson's grass will comgle�ed by l�ay 6 in accordanco with an agreQd upon land�ca�e plan to be prepared b� Mr. RQkuski and r@viowed with �lr. Lar�on. It is agr�Qd thm� he will add G or 7 Pyramidal �vQrgre�n treo� along th� o�s� sidc� of h;�s g�r�qe. 5. The d�m�ga dano to �3r. L�raon's c�ar�ge will be rc�pairad, which �ppArantly i�ncludos ropla�o�nc�n� of a t��t�l �etr�p addod n@ar tho north+�a�t corn�� of the gsrage. 6. �'hm d�mag �ccor�pl ig�ad �t�� san�i�� L.�rt�an. Q to �ir. Lar�an's driv�w�y wi�l b� by Mr. ita�eu�ki payinc� for thc� �e�ler ��r �rid�wAy, wh��h �i�l ba in��l�gci b�r Mr. 7. 'T`hct�c� wil� b� � n�w undQrground �o�ar and �olopha►na �crvic� �car��ruct�ci �ro� th� �outhr�+��t �o�nc�� o� �ir. Rekugk�.'� lot, r��ac,��g th� overl�Qsd �QrvSce t�h�t r�ow �xi�� wi��ei� aP�`a�� Mr� i�r�on'� pro��ey�. �. �x, R€�s�►u�k�'� n�w g�r��e� �s threQ �sot hi�he� th�n �h� ald dri��w�yR th� nc�w dri�re��r�� wil� bQ €�Qt hAck 5 f�, �ram tfia �ro�Q�cty �i�� a�� flquircad, �n�i tt�� C��n�i�i��n w�ll be i�nei�c�►�,�r� in �rc�orsl�nca w3��h �ha l�nd�ca�c� �a1�n to t�o prc�g��read �r�ei �g�cac�� u�aon. Yt w�s �urthQr �c�gaed th�t � naw m�.nor v�ri�r�� will �Q praca�sad x�lAting to tNo ��b�ek �� tt�� h�m� which �t�� auil� tl��e�o ��t �rQm �ho pra�ert� lino, thg a�mr� A� tha seti��c�c approvQcl io� th� gAragc�. Th�i� rc�visad sitQ pl�n wi 11 tt�cn b� rapracoss�d �� a �hc�rol i�ne deval��mant appli��ti�fl. �� is h�p�d th�t tt�e ��r��m�nt Qn �� art a� thas� t�ro �'allo�� wi�l sottl+� thair joir�� c�on��rt�� a�d re�ul.t ir� no �ur�t�er dif�ic�ltie� be�twc�an tha twa. On thi� basi�s, Mr. �arson not�d th�t ha do�s not objac� to tl�� d�y�lopm+�rlt as now propQs�c3. • Planning Office Hours iioward Dahlgren • April 13, 1988 5. �cha�er (893-6�23) Page # 5 Hrad schafer is wfth Griffin Real Estate, and was in with Paul Coniaris, and Nick Boosa�lis, the latter are Twi�n City developers �nd have dano signif3cant proj�ects including the redevelopm�nt of the West Ftigh School sit� in Minn�apQli� (a very succ�ssful and attractiva davelopmer�t) . �de d�scussc�d their possiblc� elevelapment of thr� Reiling prop�r�y north of city hall. WQ t�l,k�d about th� dosirabilit�r oe a multi- Pamil.y housing project, with somc� loc�l �onnmarcfal, n��c c�r at tt�Q sauth Qast corner o�' thc� �ik�, k1c� discussmd th+� �dvis�bilit�+ of t�kir�c� out thn old sorvica �tat�ion and �dding � convanienc� �tora with q�s s@rvic� �n a moc�a �►t�tractiva mann�r. �t� notc�d thQ c�xi�tQ�ce o�' ti�� V�'�t �1ub and i�rs ral�tion�hip to tt�e �otQ�nti�l d�vQ�Qp�nQnt, �� appo�rc�d �ha� they ar� v��y intQr��Q�d in t#�i� �i�Q alttrough �ha�Q �t�ve, of coursca+ b�czn ��ny ott�or di�cus�Qd d�valopt�ent a� thQ �f ta with th� owr�Qr �� wcti i, �te� al�a rQu,ic�wQc� tha nver�il r��r�Ce� Gondit�an� a� t1�e city+ as f� rcl��ct� to mult�-��ail� hou�inc� Cwcry ��or�r�� .�f�� d@si��b��y of �he io��tfon, �red the� img�a��ancQ o� �chiQving A �e�i l, c�ca��gne�d �o��ax. � +Flugt :� Ed �ar��n frot� the T��g€�t �to�c�, �� n wit4� f�e�c�r Ca�t�, D�y�on t�ud�an Co��a�r�tc� Pl�n�c�c�a�Qnt: ��m �,�hlt��g, �Y�, ��na� �nd ��n�y P�t�r�on� �'a�r�ra�t �u��all fro� �he ��g,�t org�a►n,i��t�an� �t�cl ��1� ��c�v�r� �i-o�n Can��r�c�,ton �a �c� t��k �I��ut rc�clQv�la��ent ot' �hQ t�o�kha�� or�c�� o� Cd�n�y R��I � an� ��Q.11ing. �"h�a �� tl�a tMird r��a��ng aacs'vcs h�d �c�c��dl�ng thi� d�v�lopmQnt, �t�d it ��pe�r� tl��t �h+��+� is g�n��r�al �gr�c�m�nt on thcr �dvi��►bi��t}� �on mov�:�c� thQ norCtt/��uti� eB�emQr�t sl�c�htly to �hc� wQst, �n� sul��ti�ut�nc� tl��G jo�n� c��c�mant (�o ��1 �f�a�Ced �r��i��) �or thc� c�x��tl�� r�ri�o ro�d on �l�c� �Q�t �i,d� �� hc� �ro�artis�g� whi�� C�rriq� v►c�ry l��ti� t��ffic Uac��aea �� i�� i�fi�uitio� �t th� ia��r�ectiatn a�3��h �e�un�y► RQ�d �. It a��e��rs thst i� � �u��ca��ul �cc�ui�f�ion o� �he ck�r �r��h �r�d the� c�ifice� buil�in� could Wc� rn�dQ, tha banc��it� t� �11 �hr� �rap�rty i� �u�h th�C iC �hould be po��,ik�la �o �e��mp�,�$h �hi;� r�d�v�lo�mant, ThQ big��st canc�rn i.s wh�the� or n�t tt��r� i� onougi� t�x incr�m�nt av�il�bla tca �in�nca tt��g d�vc�lopmar�t. IC �ppaar�d, b�s�d on number produ�ed by �ano Pet�z��on, �h�� t}�c s�b�idy r�� 1 i.ttl� �� 200, 000 m�� k�o � �,�ork�►b1o, �11 of this dQpending upan thE ultim�te s�la �ric� o� tt�e c�r w��h �nd thQ off ice building wk�ich ar� � p�rt of � U Planning Office Hours PagQ # � � Howard Dahlgren April 13, 1988 this tight grou�ing of substand�rd sites st the immodiati� southwest corn�r o� th� ar�a. �r. BQ�m�n noted that thoy had nct r�se�rcha� c�mpla�aly thQ n�ture mf t�a Q��ament, t�o�gh it app��red �ram tha ��udy �ni� �ar th�t it i� not ��ublic ��omen�� Mr. t�o�c��1� �otad th�t �t �� not nac��s�ry �or i� ta be ��u��ic sa�e�ont, but th+�t p�oQQ��y ��nQ�$ must a��aa �h�t th� privata ��s�mcn� i� �u��f�i�nt �� p��c� th�l� pres�n� public �ront��a Qn �hQ p��lic �ervie� ro�d. I� ap��d fur�h�r �h� ��o�� f roa��y �h�t ��gh� b� v�c�t�d (�ith th� �1��nstion o� �ha �� t�� r�� h� �Q tn th� ��in�� af G� �e�t, �I�h�u�h th�� n�� to b� chQ��CQ�1 fu��h�� on �t�Q c�roun�. ��c. 1�orrchc�ll r��Qd th�t thc� v�c�t�on cs� tt�a �tr�aot �y �t�r� �t� ��e�r��c�t� �rc�m l��1�� cQu�d �r� ��h#� �oa�ibly �P�� nc�xt � �canth�� hour�i� �t�err� �� tn4 �cr�'�n�tc� d��e�. �n �c�n��, it ��t�� h�� tt�e ov��all ��ct�Q �ou�� ae a��r��l� �� o��ft�e� � ��ni��ra� tr��`�� i�a�t-o��ott �u �hc� ��°��. Our �c�rt�a� u�on� n�� tep �� s�� d ��a�n �t�� h�� p�l� �o � ch�c�t ��r� �ic��► Cl�� a��n� ��d �� c��i�i��tia��, ��i ��1�� i�� 4d�l��,d �'10Y+� �1 �11�?R��Plt� i,��f�E1 �N� �ti�i�i1��11f� �6�t�1f�`+t��tlt� th� �€�vc�io;q��ant ��o�0��:1. �h� �u��n��t��n� aa�►� �he� ��r wr�� f �� M� �'�r�� r��u��r�� nd ��d�nc�. '�h�� n�aa�r��r��n�, th��, �� gu+�� t�r� �v��►�1 ��i`�� +��m►��in� �r��9 ��l�v�ls��a�nt q�+��. 7. �� b,��!�� (��9��1 �t��r �o ��u�b�uc�� d��d no� �h�w u� P��- her ��h�d�l�d �Pp��nt�c�r��, 6�iek .�c��F�� ne��d �t�� hr.i� ��qesl mc�� a�t� +�o �rQv��w �h� p�o��t�lc� �Qvct��a��t�� o� !�hc� n�r��t cor»c�� a�cirt�tc�n Av,�nu� �nd l��c�hr�� o� e ��r�c�to�� Seh�ai� f��i i�t�. '�"hi� i� CNc� 1�ii►�r��al i� ��hca�l o� l�ur�in�� +��h is cur��r�t�y 1�� ir� �e�c�v��lQ ca�r ��h��. Th�y na�c�� t1��t �hQy► m�y p�op�� rca�onQ th� �c•��r ��o�n ��1 to �6, Th�.� w�u�c� rc�prs��rat � c�own �onir�e�. Tt�c��► �aaul� p��pogQ to adc� �c�� ►c�c�itior��l �-1 �oning �+� th� �c�ut�a��t carr��, �tE�ort3 �^�1 �anad lancl i� ii�+� ��.�� y �;�� t►�t��c��, �c��h �[ the�� ho�as�� w�u�� t��r� t�� r�mov��i. R,�c� �g�Qc�d �M�t � traf�ic �t�d�► weuid va A�a�ro�r��t� �,n �� m�ch �� a�,in�3��,� Ac�� o the �it�a would bc� g�g �xir►gton �1v�r�u�. �hi� i� � tax p��ine� in��ution, �nd �s �ucP� cc�uld lse� �n appro�ri�ta c�t�v�lop�n�n� f or tt�i� :�ita. It w�� pr�viously r�zon�d and �pprovad �s � At�� by %�rry L�a (Yori��or� Gompany) £or � � s�niQr ci�izons Mou�ing projoc�, A el�y c�ro c�nt�r, ar�d an affice building �h th� soutt�wast co�ncr o� thc� sita (whera Planning affice Hours Page # � � Howard Dahlgren April 13, 198� th� two houses are �oday)o The day care center, as you know, was buil�, but th� rema�nd�r was nc�t. +r = . = • . . . Tc�d Ma�tka is a proFess�onal engin�er who was in with a r�vised drawing with Marlin �r�mm, � propos�d c�Qveloper of the land to �ho rear (wes� siclej o�' the houses frontinq on Vi�torfa, north of C�unt�r Ro�ci e. HQ is propo�ing five �,�ngla ��mily lot�, acc�r�s�s� b�r � p�ivat� cul de �ac, ei�ilar to thet whict� J�m Casc�y �id l,ast y�ar fart�er �ou�th on V'�ictaria. �MQ �;�va 1ots, how�v�r, do nat c�uft8 meet th� �t-1 dc�r��ity �nd the �it�, b�ing �0� �t. x 32� ft. �s slfgh�ly av�� o�Q ac�°�, k�a��ng 44, �82 ��. f�, fit�a fiv� lots wou�d requ�r� ��,000 sq. ��. tot�l, ar 11,000 �v. ft. }aer unit� Wa �ho�r�� u� �� optio�a� l��out �an�f�t�ng a� �e total o� �our �at�� C�n� of thar lo�a �s oc��ai0d! by the iax��tinc� ho�a an �hQ �ita. 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Lo �' � � � April 20, TO: FROM: •:: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Tolmateer (645-0223) 2. � April 13; 1988 Rick Tolmateer is with Universal Sign Company, and was in with Rudy Samstegard from Donaldsons Department Stores who is with their Operation's Facility Division. They announced that Donaldson's is going to change the name of their store to Carson Pirie Scott. Accordingly, they proposed to change the signage on the exterior of their departm�nt store at Rosedale. The existing sign consists of three 176 sq. ft. signs, and the new signs will be two at 211 sq. ft. and one at 160 sq. ft. These letters are moun�ed directly on the brick, and thus are measured 6 inches around tl�e letter as noted in the ordinance. Based on the percentage of wall space, it can be occupied by a sign in the s;hopping center district. Each of the three new signs c4nforms to ordinance requirem�nts, and will be smaller than that allowed. We also noted that we wanted to be assured that the shopping center manaq�ment (The Center Compa�iesj agrees with the�e changes, in as much as the city does not want to revi�w signage for individual stores, and not under control of the center. The s�gns will be lit with a transluc�nt fac� ligh� t'rom behind at night. No source of ].ight will be visible. They were informed th@y could proce�d with applicataons for sign permits. •�i•i � Tom Lohman, the d�vel�oper for the Investor SavYngs Bank Proposal in the Fine Associa�es Company PUD was in with Tom Ituvelson, and Conni� Hesse, both from Sign Consultants along with Robin Roberts and Jim Berqhweter (5�12-8000) both from Investors 13ank, and Tom Sweeny, attorney (222-2541). We reviewed the signage proposals iar the proposed bank. We agreed that th� overall signage allowance for area i.s equal to the signs proposed, minus th� electronic canopy sign originally indicated on the drawings. We ac�reed that they would a�just th� sign sizes of the overa�l building, so that � U � . May 2, 1988 TO: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Shearen (572-8000) 2. � April 20, 1988 Dale Shearen and his father Chuck were in to discuss the proposed moving of a two story single family residence from 2551 Lexington to 3094 Victoria. We reviewed the ordinance procedures and requirements for processing a residence moving to a lot in Roseville. The new lot is 75 ft. x 227 ft., and will easily accommodate a residence which is 21 ft. x 51 ft. (depth). Fortunately, the re�idence directly to the north at 3094 Victoria (th� proposed new site) is a two story home: ithus the existing two story home would appear to fit well in the area. The residence to the south of the proposed lot is a 1'� story structure. The ordinance requires 50� approval from property owners withi,n 250 ft. We suggested that he might �►ant to talk to some of those neighbors before he proceeds to acquire the abstractors certificate. Lohmann (375-126�1 Tom Lohmann, the investor for t�e bank building recently approved by fi.he Planning Commission and Counc�l, was �n with Connie Hesse from the sign consulting iirm working with them on their signage. They presented a drawing of the canopy projection on the narth side of the buildinq where, on the facs of the canopy, is a projection aF the exterior wall with a masonry facia and columns, which is exactly what w� hoped could be achieved. On this facia, there is a recessed signaqe pan�l. They will propose the timing of a time and temperatur� message with a changeable message, not to be a flashing sign or a traveling �ign. We also discU�sed the overal]. signago allocations which they will spread around the building within the ordinance requirements. It appears we now have a basis for a�olution �o the signage question, subject to final determination of sq. footaqe, allocation, and timing of the mes�age on the sxgn on the north side. Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren • April 20, 1988 3• Beralund (784-7791) Page # 2 Andy Berglund operates CR Billiards (780-1585) in Coon I�apids with 7,000 sq, ft. of space. He was in with Jerry Johnson, who is President of the Minnesota Pool Players Association (426-6390). They propose to convert th� old MGM liquor store easterly of Snelling Avenue to a"billiar.d room", Their layout would include 20 tables. Their Coon Rapids operation has 24 tab�es, and they estimate the maximum car parking needs to be 6U - 85 cars. We noted that the MGM store was designed to accommodate retail parking, a basic daytime activity, and was not designed to accommodate another restaurant or a night time activity. Parking for Stuart Anderson's is 158 cars, Fuddruckers has 144 cars, and MGM and the Brick Oven Restaurant have lOG. We expres�ed our grave concern that there may be a serious parking shortage if they and the restaurants in the area are all successful. We suggested that he review his proposal with Mike Platt, who owns Discus Corporation, which owns Fuddruckers and �he Brick Oven. Some intelligent sharing of peal� business hours and needs might be helpful in determining the answer in tiais ease. We agreed that having inadequate parking would be a disaster for all concerned, � and that it would appear that in this case the combination would not work, because the MGM retail str�re was figured at � parking capacity needs as a princi�al daytime use (combinei� with three principal night time uses�. Mr. Berglund did note, and showed us letters From a Councilman and the Chief of Police from Coort Rapids, �hat their operation is clean, well run, and catered to a non-alcohol�c crowd. Mr. Berglund did note, however, that they stayed open until 4:00 in the morning, and that billiard rooms tend to cater to late night crowds working a swing shift". These men ;eem like good people, and their pictures of the Coon Rapids operation were very attractive. We agreed, however, that th�re are some "pool hall operators" that continue to give the sport a bad name and that is a problem within the industry. ' 4. Smedbercx (633-8150) Cindy Smedberg is a Community School Coordinator for the Roseville Area Schools and was in to discuss a new sign for the Brimhall School. She notes that the school is used a great deal for community use with adult classes, me�tings, boy scouts, girl scouts, ete., and a sign which would designate some of these events would be helpful. We noted � that the ordinance provides for a"nameplate sign" for such Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 20, 1988 u 5. C� ��, 7. � Page # 3 institutions in residence districts including churches. Churches, however, traditionally have a reader board with a notation of service times and sometimes a name of the sermon. We suggested that the sign they propose, which is 4 x 6 ft., is approximately '� of what is allowed by ordinance (5o feet). We suggested if the name of the school were prominent on the sign that a reduced size reader board could be appropriate within the intent of the ordinance, and would be similar to church signs in the community. This sign would have to be set back 30 feet, and would be principally a name plate sign. jetendre (633-6312) George Letendre was in to discuss signage for his proposed transition of his office/warehouse builelinq at the northwest corner of prior and County Road B--2 ta business uses. We noted that stores in this structure would be allowed l0a sq. ft. of wall signage the same as other stores in Roseville, and that a single pylon per street frontage would be al�owed. We suggested a pylon at the corner set back the proper thirty feet, desiqnating the name of the center. We alsa sugqested and he agreed, that the grass ar�a and driveways �t this intersection would be curved and landscaping adcied. �_ - .. . , � � �ack Klepp is lookinq for a multi-family housing site and was in to revi�w �ossible locations. He proposes ta address th� "empty nester" market in laoking for appropriate sites for one story town house type developn�ent. W� suggested �hat density would not be appropriate for the Twin Lakes Area, but we raview�ed other locationa in the Ci�y where the Land U�e �lan designates such appropriate housinq densit�.es . Greaory ( 3,�2-Q5�44 ) Arni� J. Gregory is the Nianager of Project Development for Can-Amera.can Reality Corporation, who are heavy hitters i.n the multi-�amily development area in the Twin Cities. He was in with Daniel E. Hunt of C�ldwell Hanker, and Harry C. Olsen, an archi�ect with Windsor/Faircy Axchitects, Inc. Arnie Gr�gory has negotiated an option wi�h George Reiling for the purchase of the land at �ii� nsYthwest quadrant of Woodhill Road and Lexington Avenue (north of City Hall). The purpose of their vi.sit was to discuss with the sta�f our mutual objectives and concerns. They indicated their desire n u r Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren Page # 4 • April 20, 1988 to build approximately 320 '�upscale�� housing units. This would be a rental program with 3 stor structures uriderground, and some low rise buildings, 8-10 un tsrkpeg building, perhaps on the westerly side of the project near �he single family housing. They noted that George Reilin ha� kept the corner site where the existin g located with proposed ditnensions of 286 ft g gas station is purpo�e here is for some time in the future to d velop a new bank site. They propose that the southerly por�ion of the site could be developed for retail uses on a 100,000 sq, ft, scale. W� suggested that location was no� $ scale centerf in-as-much as therapis no�effsctiveCeastlwest thoroughfare movement. It is khe same reason that the Hamline Center and the Old "Food Tawn�� market did t�ot �lo well (lack of �ast/west traffic movement), the possibility� Af a scaled dow� neighbarhaod�dcen�er integrated with the resi.denti�l dev�lopm�nt with pathwa s and bikeways, and should not simply bc a se arat� Y (as though there �rere no re2atiot�sh�p), p prO]�ct woUld look at the scale down Th��' said they � building more housin Poss�.bility and cor�sider that th�is wc�uld not b� a e j.haSeg u� �0 360. They suggest�c� build it all �t on�e time, p prOj��t� �ut that they would �te expressed cflncern that the rear Iot lines, with sin le �amily housin�g to the we�t be compati�le with the developmen�. W@ noted the e�xis�ence of the R-2 zonin strip along the west side of th�� prvperty, an�i tt�at perha s this transition can be dor�e w�,�h open spa��, berms a�d landscaping, arid not necessarily a raw of duplexas. Craig Waldron talkeci about the impact of the taxes, no�in the fiscal disparities s��em suggests thQ valu� o� mult�.g gamily housing (�ar�icularly of k�igher qu,alit one story shopping center structure. We �lso talked�about the im�aet of park dedication and the � private/indoor-outdoor recreatic�nal�� cil ty �alongatthe lines of °�Edinbaxough" in Ediria. We reviewed the histor of park plaj�ning as it relates to the sellers n Y park dedication, We suggested by handlin a�p°�ltion to app�Op��ate�Y� �t �� k�� advan�ageous to tigiem and�theccityY Mr'. Honchell confirmed �hat the construc�ion of �ounty Road C-2 shoul.d occur at such time �� this same tim� as the development of George Reil�ngCs�l nd to the � ncarth. I�r. Honchell also discussed drainage and t , he Fact • � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 20, 1988 8. Page # 5 that the ponding area to the north of Caunty Road C-2 has been thought of as a depository for the drainage from much of the land to the south. He noted other ways this could be used, but that this way makes the most sense and has been che basis for the drainage system concept for some time. They are gaing to start the preparation of preliminary plans, and will be back to review cancepts with the staff. Bob Blumberg, of the Blumberg/Zimmerman family, was in with Don Gray, a designer, to review possible w�ys in which they could add additional garages to their multi-family t�ousing Bit� north o� Caunty RQ�d B off Af Pascal Aventae. There are 160 units here bui�lt in 1964 with 86 garag�s. They have a waiting list of �0 persons wanting garages, and they a�e considering ways in whict� these could be added, principally to the north. One m�thod would be to add them contiguot�s to the �ublic right-of-way (Pascal), but placing t�em within 1 or 2 feet oF the right of w�y lirte. 'We suggestQd that this would not be appropriate, but that the c�arage� could b� add�d to the interior, which would be set baGk well ouer �hirty fee� as r�quired, but wo�ld be n�ar some of the wir�dows o� the r�sic�enti�l uni�s. �ob notes that n�ost of thei� occupants are retired per�pns, and are solicitous of their vie��s. We suqgested that Qerh�p� go�ng to an underground park�ng �olution might be appropriate if there is such demand, �aerhapg somQ e�f those folks might pr��er to pay morQ for a�n enclosed spac� with sa�e access to th� structure. S�ch an undorground garage could be placed in the Q�isting parking lot (with parkinq abov�), or perhaps be put undergxound in the open space be�ween the structures. They are going to look at this possibility even though a cc�naervative approach might not resu�lt in an underground solutian. Thair immediate objectiv� wa� to a�dd approacimat�ly 14 garages. Th�is can be accomplished on the site with spaces now allocat�d for parking nea;r the building, but not contic�uous to the publac right-of-way. They are going to look at the� options and will be back to conside� an ap�aropriate solut�ion. � � � 'S � 6 � 7 :� 8 � � � 10 �» f I -r !2 :d 13 -i 14 -� l5 � � � I � 2 � 3 4 g �' � � Y� �' ^ — —� - p� ry �, i�t0 ,•+•� A � ff j.. •/% � � ; B J �� j � € s 7�,, �I IM2 �-J � � , � .. 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Trat�p (633-6600,,� �� 2. � April 6, 1988 Jim Trapp was in to discuss the possibilfty of his developing an Auto Nia11 at the Northwest corner of Highway 36 �nd Rice Street. �his property has a sma11 parcel zoned limited business for an affice (where the house once stood), and the remair�der is zoned R3-A and approved for multi-family housing PUD by Gardy Howe seva�xal yeara aq�oo We told Mr. Trapp that this land was not pxoperly zoned f4r an Ruto Mall use, and that rezoning major portions o€ it for t�hat p�arpose would be inappropriate. �his property is surrnunded by s�ngle family homes to th� west and r�orth, the latter Qf which look down upen the sit�, ia� ms much as the frontagQ �of� Minnesata ,is high. Access to this site is also diffi�cult off of Rics Street, and any h�avy traffic generator could constit te a sa�ety probl�m. . 'The bottom li��e is that the l�nd use agreed upon Fay tt�e neighbors and app��oved by the City is still th� best us�. Whil�e here, M�. Trapp also discussed pros�ress regardin�g his r+�developmen� proposal for the Cleanco sit�, Ne noted, somQwhet t�o our surpr,ise, �ha� prosp�cts �oo�Cad di,sco�ragin�, therQ being a s�vere shortage oP praspective tc�nants, and that the bu�.�ding co�ts "$2 million d�ll�rs'�, We e�t�ressed our concerr� r�garding the �empor�ry handli.ng of the Budget-R�nt-A-'�ruck op�ration �s it rel.at�s to th� ultim�t� redevelopm�nt o� Mr. Trapp�s sit�, Mr. Trapp noted the pvssibi].it�r of his moving somo of his Cleanco employ��s ta 3outh Sto Paul, wher� t�e says hc� is building a n�w truck wash facil�ty. �te again e�couraged him ta cransid�r clearir�g the Cl��tnco site in Roseville and redeve�oping i�t in � more appropri$te way. Br�.an E��svold is the E�cecutiv� Director of the Minnesota Service St�tion Association, �r�d he was in with Ralph Dar, a u � C� Planning Office Hours Howarc� Dahlgren April 6, 1988 3s �. A Pag� # 2 bt�ilding supervisor, and Stu a�olue� President of the Service Sta�tion ASsaciation. They ar� interested in pur�hasing the large house at 1705 Marion which is an isolated hou�e �auth of the apartments that �ominate that cul de sac. The owners of this house hav� been trying to sell it Por years, anr� we have aiseussed with her th� possik�i�a�tys af ot�ter uses, including peri�aps an affice, Ar a group home. These peopl� are in�erested in convertir�g the buildina� 3nto their headquarteXs. Tt�is is a laxge house on a large si�e, and it w�uld appear t�� the cor�v�rsion can �e �ccomplish�ci, �nd that there is enough room to accommodate tho parking. ��1e noted the proced�ares and crik�ria foz° af�ecting �he change. Tt would appear that there m�ght br� 2600 sq, ft. �� spa��, including th� con�ve�sion o� the q car g�ra��. �his wau�.d r�quire 15 g��rkin� spaces. �te reeommc�nd�d they hire �� rct�itect ta pr�Qp��e the appropria�� buildanc� and site plans far �urttae� r�view �nd potential �roces�i�g. �h�� havo 4 ful� �ime �mployee�s w�£th the �o��biliti�s o� a 5th in the future. They �lso noted the p�ossibi.liti�:s oP ��ttiing �h� c�iurch use their p�a�icing lot on Sut�day. w� revi�wed witM them the reyti�rem�n�s for r��ighborhoc�d meetfn�s, a�nd sugge�� thati th�y tal.k to thQ churc� ��ght Away. F��. �r • t 1 1 � P�t�r Carl�on from t,�ooe�bridge was in �o dis�cuss pot��tia� �igning f�r the long r�ng� promotion for th�ir C�a�trepointe lbu�in�ss eent�r ��s� of 35id. He paint�d ou� s�m� og thQ new t�chniques in signs, including th� int�rior lit signi.ng t�chn�q�� that w� now soe on s�m� of Cnr�n��l 5 billboar��. W� sugg�st�►d ti��t mlth�ug�i ti�at te�hni.q�c� mi,F�t; b� �ppropria�e, we didn'� want ta h�v� a s�qn aut fih�r� that "loaked �Iike a�illbo�rd". Fie nated th�t their sign consulta�nts had s�agg��tQd changing a� copy is ��fective about euery 3� d�ys, and that techniquc r�a�dily allows for suci� ch�ng�. WQ s�uggested �that any signa�gQ proposed migh� be done with the int�nt of i't being a permaa��nt marker, rather than a promo�.ional sign. In �ny �ase, they are going to study th� g�ossibi�itaes for lo�ation�, size, �nd technique, and will be �iack t� zeview proposals with �t�ff, and ultimat�ly �lannins� Commi�sion, and �CounGi� consideration. .�,��l�,b�l�� (�3�-4200) Jian Dahl.berg, architect with �iKE, was in with Gene Pe�erson, Randy Peterso!�, Forrest Ru�seli, and Bill Sievers to ta�,k � about the po�sible redeve2opanent ane� :_:�ealignment of the service road at the Northeast corner of County Road B and � � � Planning Offiae Hours Howard Dahlgren April 6, 1988 5. �� Page # 3 Snelling. Jim Dahlberg presente�. a revised plan which moved the service ro�d slightly wes�erly, once north of the carwash site. This proceeded n�rtherly to Commerce Street, which was then cul de �ac'� at the north 1.ine of the Perkins site. If the remainder Qf the service road was vacated, this would add to the Perkins si�e, cAm�ensating for the loss of the right of way on the east end. i�t�r review witY� Charles Honch�ll, Directar of Public Works, suggested that th� service raaci could be elimina�ed contiguous tc Snelling Avenue entirely�, and that �he private easem�nt now �hared by Tarc��, Perkins, and the ��That would suffice for northjsouth mo�ements in this area. is, of cou��+�, the way it is working today, in as much as very Eew v�hicles use the servicE roac� connecti.on at County Roar� B. On� �� the advan�ages of the r�evise�d plan is that more parking is plac�d cor�venient �o the Targ�� Star�e (be�� °�hat the north/sout� road further w�est). It wovld app this concept wil]. prnvide advantag�s for a�l oi th� propQrties, and c1Qa�r uP a serious tr�ffie ha2a,rd at �he intars�ctis�n. Forre�t Russ�ll nat�d that he will be get�inq soa�e numbexs on the value of their investm�r�t (for. Tar4et), and GQne Peter�on will get some numbers to Crai� Walciron as well. These numbers �ill b� he�.pful in detarmi»ing how the revisiotns of th� sea�vice roaci and combina�ion of properties mig�t i�e handl�d. We agre�d �o meet n�+x�: woe}c and ccnsid�r th� revised plans and strategies. 8i11 Sievers is with Constru�tion 70 and was in to discuss the potential expansion of the xndustrial builr3ings at 1430 Wes� County Road C. Here, A-Plus, a punching and stamping company, proposes an expansion. We noted the need to dev�lop a site plan showing the existing condi�ions and devolopment proposals emphasizing the need fox ad�q�uate parking and improvement to the landscaping in the area. We noted further that the parking for industrial is 1 space per 800 sq. ft., or 1 spa�e for each person in the maximum designed shifG. �arking for storage is 1 space per 200Q sq. ft. He wxll prepar� reva.sed �l�ns and get baGk to staff for further review. �1 ,;; _, Gaorg Stromme is at 415 Eldridge, and proposed to build a � � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren April 6, 1988 7. Page # 4 garage in front of his homP, similar to that which has already been done at 443 Eldridge. Thes�a homes are set back further than the required 30 feet, ar�d a garage expansion method will work well as proposed on Mr. Stromme's lot. This will be processed as a minor variance. Rick Jopke met with Nlr. Stromme regarding his proposal. Roc�er 617 (439=-9000) Steven D. Roger is the Vice President of Aldrich Eastman and Waltch, Inc., a Boston based pension fund management company. Visiting with him was Andrew M. Nesvet, CPA, with the same company, and Greg Maltby, from Shelard property management company, in charge of Aldrich Eastman and Waltch's Roseville's properties from the Shelard companies (here in Minneapolis). These folks represent the owners of the office warehouses, southeasterly of the end of the cul de sac on Oakcrest in the easterly half of the Twin Lakes study area. We had talked to these folks previously regarding the potential for the extension of Oakcrest to Snelling, and they hac� expressed their interest in this proposal. We reviewed with them the current status and some of the details of the land use and circulation plan for the area. They noted that they are in this investment for the lor�g haul, and are supportive of the city's efforts to increase the potential viability of the properties in this area. Craig Waldron reviewed ��ith them some of the possible scenario's relating to the conversion of the land to multi- family housing. We suggested that the density might be in the vicinity of 25 units per acre. We agreed that the conversion of the land to the north might be a prerequisite (where the land is contiguous to Voyages park). 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Center Companies (343-2659) March 29 & 30, 1988 Chris Hanson, Edward McKizzie, and Doug McClure, representing Dayton's anci the Center Companies were in to discuss the propos�d expansion of Rosedale, which in essence, would convert the existing Dayton's storP into an expansion of the tenant building which currently surrounds the major mall, and to include the construction of a new Dayton's store to �he wes� of their existing store. Dave Kusky joined us later representing Barton-Ashton, traffic engineering consultants. Some numbers were discussed first. The existing center is 1,005,529 sq. ft. This represents gross leasable retail space, not including the mall. Dayton's new departznent s�ore would have 260,000 sq. ft, The existi�g basement under the Dayton's store would continue to be a part of Dayton's new store. The total, new, revised center area would be 1,143,625 sq. ft. To accommodate additional parking, a ramp would be constructed with approximately 600 spaces, producing a parking ratio of approximate].y 5.4 spaces per thousand. The city of Roseville code requires 5 spaces per �housand. Dave Kusky went through some traffic analysis, where in some of the principle numbers ar� as follows: 1. Duriig the peak 4:30 � 5:30 evening hour, 316 cars turn right off HWY 36 and Fai.rview (westbound), of which 206 are destined to go to Rosedale. Cars proceeding northerly on Fairview (inc�.uding those coming off HWY 36) total 1,042 during the peak hour, of which 421 are turning right into Rosedale at the first entrance. Thus, a total of 624 vehicles are turning right into Rosedale at the iirst entrance north of Hwy. 36. This suggests that one of the options is to provide a separate (additional) right turn lane only off of the north bound ramp on Fairview directly into the �hopping center. � � Planning Office Hours Page# 2 Howard Dahlgren � March 30, 1988 This was, in fact, proposed back in 1969 when the center was originally buiit, but was not allowed by MN Dot becaus� they do not provide, in most parts of the country, a separate ramp off a public highway into private property. We noticed today, however, in our examination of MN Dot's proposed highway improvements for the Mega-mall sit� in Bloomington (the old stadium site), that such a separate ramp off Cedar Avenue is in fact being proposed for triat site. Thus, this may establish a preceden� where it may be passible in Rosedale. It is obvious that such a turning anovement would greatly enhance the problems of the wea,ving of the traffic, and the access to Rosedale off Hwy. 36 off of Fairview. Dave Kusky noted too, that 65% to 70% of all traffic to Rosedale, comes off the Fairview entrance. Dave Kusky noted that in the design of the Third Avenue distributor in Downtown Minneapolis (part of 394) a separate ramp to the major ramp under construction behind Butler Square provides for such a separate ramp. This however, is a ramp from a Fed�ral Interstate Highway to a parkin.g garage being built with Federal Aid Interstate money (90�-10%). Charlie Honchell was present at the me�:ting, and noted his � concerns about getting peak hour traffi�� out of the center, and th� ability to continue to encourage traffic movements to go northerly to County Road B-2 and thence into the center from the northwest. It appears that the 5eparate ramp going into Rosedale (off 36) would �liminate one of the weaving movements that occurs when traffic coming north on Fairview tries to get into the center from the west. Mr. Kusky also proposed to move the southerly most entrance to the center (on I'airview) further north, and in response to Charli�'s question, noted that it would line up with a proposed principle entrance to the Northwestern Natior�al Life Insurance future development on the west sicle of Fairview (where Control Data is now). We also disGussed the need for an EAW. Mr. Honchell noted that an EAW should be done so as to get a handle on the numbers which will likely confirm that an EIS will not be n�cessary. It appears that the development proposal will not trigger an indirect source permit. It also appears that doubling up the westbound lane for access to Hwy. 36, off Fairview, would be necessary. There may, in fact, be a need for substar�tial change in the interchange, for which money from MN Dot is not likely to be forthcoming. We thus eliscussed the �tax increment potential that might be possible, similar to what has been done in � Brooklyn Park (�oone and Interstate 94), in Eden Prairie, and in Bloomin�ton. In these cases, tax increment funds are � LJ Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 30, 1988 2. 3. Page# 3 used to finance the highway projects an3 improvements that could otherwise be dore in no ather way. Craig Waldron is in the process of reviewing the tax increment options. The Center Company noted that the ramps alone, might run 13 mi�lion dollars without the new building. Dave Kusky noted that a EAW is in place there having been two additians to the center back in 1977, and 1979 (J.C. Penny and Wards addition). We also raised some concerns regarding the handling of the traffic access into the north end of the ramp. The ramp would be located above the lower 1eve1 gark�ng, which would take out the existing garden store, and the Midas repair shop that is set in the stone wall on t�e west side of the center. There appears to be some problems in getting access to portions of the parking ramp. Based on our discussions, they are going to revise their plans, finalize mor� detail, and get better estimates of the potential building scale and cost. We will then be in a better position to review methods of solution including the possibility o� an additional right-of-way to be provided by Aaytons on the east side of Fairview. Sedea hct at (633-5311) Fred Sec�eaghat has an office at 1910 W. Caunty Road C. From this office he buys and sells cars, but does not have any cars on the site. We explained to him the process for permits for buying and selling cars, which requires a special use perm�t for an auto or truck agency. He notes that this is not the nature of his business in as much as there will be no cars for sale on the premises. Under these circumstances, Rick Jopke can iill out a stat� form that would appear to solv� Mr. Sedeagha�'s probl�m, if it is strictly understood that no cars will be sold on the premises. Michels (633-1911) Bob Michels groposed to purchase two lots at the southeasterly band in Millwood, both of which are presently unoccupied. The problem is the lots have been combined into a single parcel, thus, a lot divisa.on is rer�uired. W� reviewed the requirements and procedures which appear to be routine in this case. He will attemp� to get the application material together by April 6, so as to be in time for referral to the Council for it's second meeting in the month. � 4. Hardy (636-3005) �J Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 30, 1988 Page# 4 Tom Hardy runs a car cleaning service out of Midway Ford and is looking for a nEw location to r.un that operation with an expansion into Auto Repair. He tells us that the px�ocess of cleaning up cars for sale is now known as "Auto Detailing" wY�ich includes the �ormal cleaning plus replacement of chrome and other minor details to improve �he appearan�e for sale purposes. He would Zike to locate temporarily in the old Thermo Kinc� building which is more recently occupied by Riley Tire. This property and the property to the sou�h of the Thermo King building has been purchased by the Butler Realty company, with whom we have discussed the possibi].ity of redeveloping the l.and for business purposes, one of which might be an auto mall. Tom Hardy says he would like to b� a part of any future au�o mall that might be built on this site, and is seeking a temgorary location by leasing the o1d Thermo King building. We suggested �hat it would be helpful if x�epresentatives of the Butler Company wer� to com� in to see us so we could discuss future plans for this site, before any commitments are made for a term use of any kind. 5. Krank (339-4200) � Ron Krank, architect, was in the Gzne Peterson and Randy Peterson (father and son) and Bil.l Sievers, to discuss the �e-development �f the northeast co�ner of County Road B and Snellings You wi11 recall ti�at the corn�r is occupied by a car wash, an office building, and an o1d gas station which has be�n purcha.secl by �ens P�:terson. � Ron Krank's office h�s done a ske�tch indicating the possible realignment of the s�ruice road, as he was requested ta do at the �revious meeting. Th� sketch he prepared indicates the re-aligning of the road north of Perkins, where there is an existing 30 foot road easement and connecting to the north-south 30 foot easement which coanes out ta County Road B just east of the car wa.sh. This, presumably, would al].ow for the v�cation of portions of the service road on the west sir�e, which wuuld ext�nd the properties westerly up tc� approximately 70 feet. The prablem here Ys that the p�bli� ri.ght of way needed for this diversion would have �o come from Target. We suggested that it might be possible to bend the right af way westerly into the Perkins site �s much �as additional lan�l can be gained for the Perkins site by the vacation of the service road. Under th�:se circumstance5, they might be willing to trade some right of way to mak�e that portion of the system work. It also appeared possible that an advantage could be gained by Target, by elimination of a 30 . ' � � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 30, 1988 6. Page# 5 foot �a�ement to the north of the Perkins site, and bending the roadway westerly, so as to provide a 1a�ger, Gene continuous parltin �ha�t Ron r Krank��co ld � preparea�a g.revised Petersan agreed drawing indicating this possibilityo We also asked them to prepare an optianal drawing indicating the relocation of the service rflad south of the Perkins site. For this purpase, Doug Strong gave them a copy of the City's proposal that was prepared with MN Dot �everal. years aga for this solution. Thus, we all agree that for the next me�ting, we will review the three optional solu�ions, and th�t they would also con�tact Target representatives to be present at th�e nc}:t meeti�g to review the possibili�i�s. It was �greed that Nir. Peterson could work directly with Craig W�1e�ron regarding what �.echniqu�s might be utilized �or the use tax incremM�t funds �a m t m la�es an Auto I�aZl�proposall on the ��ite, of Peterson con p approxim�tely 15�,000 sq. ft. This may or m� y n o t b e a practical use �or the land in v iew �f the need f'�r increm�nt to finance, or will ��w�roadwabe chang�e,e�howeverlv would lb� road dive�sion. Thi Y worth pursuing strongly becausc: it is on� af tt�e worst traffic probl.ems in Roseville, and the Ghance to solve it is now. Once a new building a.s built on the old service station site with�ut accompli.shing the s�ervice raad diversion, it will be a long time laefore an�ther opportunity wxl� arriue tca make ti�is import�nt improve.ment possible. Kren„gle (639-6350. Kris I�rengle is � realtor r�presentinc� the potenti.al sale for tlie ald Ponaerosa Steak House north of t��e Zeece operation, westerly of Rice �treet. This �as the building where the pool hall �as proposed tA b� loca�ed. Mr. Krengle no�es that he has a potential buy�r for the site, who would like to have the properties split in two. There are t�ree lats involved h�re, but they would like �o divide the property ciown the middle of a parking lot. We nated that this could possibly be dane through the processing of a PUD and a lot split. We revieweci the requirements and timing for such a procedure, and we emp�asized the need to have we11 prepared drawings, and a logical prc�posal that will work well. He is concerned about the timing required to accomplish these changes. Ther�e is, however, no other procedure to le�ally effectuate a divisio�. � �, f�'Meara (633-0246) � C_J � CI Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 30, �.988 Page# 6 Barry 0'Meara, a long time builder in Rosevi�le, was in with Carol Tanning from his organization, plus Mark Bay, attorney, and David Birnley, Vice President for Real Estate at the Ungon Bax�k, and E�rl Doble, President of the Union Hank. The Union �ank now owns the town house project that was par�ially develaped by Albert Hoffmier, south of the trailer park, and westerly of Lexington Avenue. Their intent here is to get Barry O'Meara to complete �he project with the same nuanber of town house units that were previously appravedr which totals lfi. One of the buildings i$ up �aith two of ti�e units partially completed. They propased to passibly chang� �he form of the buildings to be ad�ded or�, which th�re would be three more. We note �hat the exac� form of the buildings could be revis�d as long as they were in improvement over what was apgroved. We suggested that it be important to be sure that �he �our buildirags would app+ear well together, and not look li�Ce one of th�m was a mistake. We also discussed the possibility af moving th� roadway to �he public right of way. �hey are aware that the r�eigl�borhood does not want the roadwa� �ar�struct�d through the single family area, nor do�s the Q�ner of �he txai�er park want the assessments. We "suggested t,hat one optian might be for them to get permi�sion grom the city �o build a�treet to the driveway sexving th� w�sterly most building, and no� run it through th� s.inr�le family area. Ti they were to build th�s without cost to the cit�r, rather than building their own driveway, �h�t this might be a workable solution. �'he c:xisting driveway is partially done with some cla�s 5 material, instailed as b�se. They note, however, that this might not be pr�perly done as of this time. They also noted a problem with respect ta determining the as built conditions for the utilities that are under the driveway. We noted that it is in the city's interest to get the project dane, and done well, and the neiyhbors would lik�ly appr�eciate that as well. We noted the procedures th�t would be required, which would include a revised PUD, and possibly a plat for providing pads for tawn house development, if ��ch unit occupied a ground space. We stressed the i.mportance of a neighborhood meeting as a part of the procedure. I� would appear that by working together h�r�, that the bank will b� in a position to have Mr. O'Meara or someone else complete this project in this next building season. All involved here appeared to be very co- operative with the intent of getting this job done and done well. � Pl�nning Office Hours Hnward Dahlgren March 30, 1388 8. Olson (893-6820j Page# 7 Bab Olson and Brad Schaffer are with the Griffin Real Estate Company, and aXe working with a client who is interested in buil�ing a neighborhood center in �he vicinity a� Leatingtan and Woodhill. We reuiewed the status and tk�e zoning of tt�e property, which is, of course, currently owned by Georg�e Reil.ing. We suqgested that a small convenience center on tha� site co�bined with a multi-family housir�g project might be the mos� �ppropriat� devel�pment form, We suggested that a larger center in �he vic�ni�y o� 75 to 120 thousand sq. ft. wotsld not be an appropriate use, due to �he lack oF an east/�aest thoroughfare to eerve the mark�t ar�a. ThQ total site is 30 acres, far which mo�t might be�t used for multi-family hou�ing. WQ reviewe�l the zaning pat�ern, land use in th� area, and procedures/requiremer�ts. We x�o�ed too, that there have been a�eri�s o� mu1�i-f�mily hou�ing dev�lopere who expressed intere�st in dev�lepinc� the �ite. We noted that a joint development amphasi�ing trie mul�ti-�amily housing ol�m�nt with some suppo�ti.ng busine�s u�e� might be apprapria��. Thsy �x� going t�o Froc�sd to revi�w t�►is passitri.lity and ather� with thair cliea�t� and will get b�ck to use at a later paint. � � �_J � �� 2� 3� 4� 5 �u A �_ � - 8 = i �� C� �, tSp E �� F � G � H tlFO I 2W0 J �.:o K � I � 2 • � 3 � 4 $� 1W0 ROSE�fILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFlCE HOURS '3.zg�3o • 8a DAHLGREN SHAROIOW S UBAli � � _ � .. Yt ., � � � �„ = � � � s� �: �� ia � �5 ' 16 = I7 � IS s e9 -��y 2cJ '9 ��-,�•�'""� -:��___._ +� y Q :a �� .'�. �1 w �� i� Y� I�Y � �S �` f� w3 �! Y� �� 9 20 � �• . A � B � C � D �� E un � F � G cua H �C � � � • March 25, 1988 TG: F�tO�+f : �im Andre Howard Dahlgren SU�JECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. L,etel7dx'e (,�33-63120 March 23, 1988 GeorgB I.,�tendre of Roseville Properties was in again to review their proposed use for their office/warehouse buil.ding a� the northwest corner oF County Road B-2 and Prior. Their hope is to convert the two buxldings they own in thYs quadrant plus another to retail u�e, as reported in a previous memo. The immediate proposal is to rezon�e a portion of the building at the �.ntersaction (northwm�t cornerj at 1955 County Road B-2. They proposa to occu�y the $outherly 9, 000 sq. Pt. for r�tail u�e� the r�maind�ar �aouls� cQntinue to b� utilized b� the �xistinq tenants which fnc].ude approximately the following. 1r600 �q. 1 � fi00 Bq. 1,�04 sq, 2,000 sq. d,000 sq. 6,000 �q. �o,000 ��. ��,000 sq. 28,000 sq. ft. - P�inting Compa�ny ft. - Th�rmo �Cins� - storac�e f t. - R&M Prac3uce - re Fric�eratad gtorage it, - Time Product�, Inc. - Warehousing f�. - `�rans El�ctronfcs - 1��sembl�I o� comput�r boarc�e fC. � Bodine� - Warehousing and wholesaY�rs o! pia�nos. �t. -- Di�t�d - �ledical t��hnology ft. - Sup�rior Epoxy - Supp�iers snd applicators o� epox�r material �t. - RPQ - Re-buildlers of eomput�r hardwa�� We note�d th�t this proceas wa►B $i,�ni��r to ane utili�ed on a building west of F�ir�riew Avenu�, �rhere tt�e Camput�r�ar�d store is loc�t�cl. P�ortions of that building �r� �on�d ��r busine�s, a pertion of it �+�he rear �ao�tiany r�main� as industrial. H�re we sur�qest th� 8-4 z�ne be a�pplied For r�ezaning and �hQ sp�cial us� ��rmit far �it€� plan approval. We 8uggested plans for �he buildin�g a�nd qrounds bca d�t�ilr�d to includ� �he� remodelfng �ropos�ed t� acc+�tamodat� the retail facilitiea. W€� noted �hat the parking wo�ald have to ce�nfo�em to parking for each of the uses �xi�tinq and pro�ased, Th�rQ is obviously aan overabundanc� of parking far the existing oper�tions, �� • Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 25, 1988 2. Slavick (2?.8-01061 Page # 2 Mark Clemens and his wife, Carol Slavick, were in to discuss a potentia�. senior citizens housing development ior John Arkell Development Company. Mr. Arkell, they noted, has been in the dev�lopmen� business for 14 years, and has recently completed a uni.que housing project in Stillwater. This project consists of one story structures designed for seni�rs independent living. The generai configuration of the structure is fou�r units in each of the four quadrants, some with attached qarayes, and some with separate garages. Two parking spaces per unit are provided and the units are set up for on� bedxoom and two bedroom. The one bedroom r�nts for $385.00, and the t�ro bedroom for $485.00. They have 64 units on five acres. This project is located about 3/4 of a mile north of TH 36 on Washinqton Avenue (northeast�rly a� where the rnad curves to the west). This is low to moderate i�acame t�ousing, and to be accomplished would r�quire some fo�m of assistance. A Block Grant, or somg for�m of �tax inc�ement assistance is possible. The development app��ently comes out at about 12 units per acre. Wo dis�cuss�d various sites in Rosevxlle that might be � appr�priate, suggesting that the site at the northeas� corn�r of I.exingt�r� and Highway 36 may be out of scale with reasonable land cos�s. It looks like costs in the vicinity of $1.50 �q. ft� may be appropriate. We discussed various locatio�s that ar� indicated in the compreh@nsive plan as modium and high d�nsity housing. Should they find an appropr3�te, tentative site, they will get back to Craig r�g�rc�ing develapm�nt casts and value numbers. They noted th�at the naw unit design enla�rges the buildinq slightly as to provide 72Q sq. ft. for a one b�droom unit, and 900 sq. ft. �nr a 2 b�droom unit. They are propo�ing proj�cts in Flymouth and Maple�ood as well. � ��] Tom Gerster of itKE Architects was in to discuss the modificatAans for th� Fa�r-Dale shops. They hav� pre�ared work�ng dr�wings for tha Eormer Heirsct�field location, where Pier Ane propos�s to go involving 863 sq. ft. of additional space �lonq the front. �his change is m,inor, and results in a total af 47,�63 sq. ft. �or which 239 parking spaces are requiz°ed. �he site has 270 spaces (after 4 spaces are retnoved for the additional building). Another store on tl�e west end c�f tt�� build�ng pra�osed to expand in a�imilar fashion. Here there would be five spaces required (those parkecl nex� to the building) but would not result in any � :, • C� Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 25, 1988 4. � Page # 3 significant change to the site plan. About 243 spaces would be required, with 265 spaces net available. �bviously, this center was built with more than adequate parking because of its coniiguration. It would appear that both expansions could occur without reprocessing a PUD. Peterson (720-6723) Randy Peterson and Randy Peterson Jr. ,(father and son), Forrest Russell (of Target) and Bill Slevers (developer), were in to review possibilities of the redevelopment of the Hallmark Prints - Sinclair station site, and contiguous properties at the northeast corners of Lexington and Snelling Avenues. This meeting was at the request of Vern Johnson who suggested that the Target improvements might be utilized as a tax increment element in assisting with the redevelopment of the business at the corner site. We all agreed that in this case free enterprise and government can work together, and hopefully create a condition where better development can occur, that will best serve the public interest and the investors. Randy Peterson Sr. noted that at his previous conversations iwith the car wash owners (Sheldon and Charlie Rubenstein) the asking price was 1.2 million dollars, and that the asking price for the office building was $360,000. Mr. Peterson surmised that perhaps the ultimate prices could be $800,000 and $300,00 respectively. He said he paid $250,000 for the Sinclair site which he now owns. His objective is to develop a car care center, which he has done many of in the metropolitan area. He is also a major developer of Learning Tree Day Care centers. Mr. Peterson further noted that he had some development concepts/drawings made of the corner, but they re-routed the service road, vacation of a portion of the old service road, and utilization of most of the three sites involved. We added up the acreage involved here, and it's astounding to note that the total site (all three together consisting of actually four parcels) equals only 1.27 acres or 51,000 sq. ft., thus even when the sites are merged, the site remaining is very small. • Craig Waldron noted that if we were going to use �ax increment for the Target development, we have a 90 day window after the building permit is issued. Thus, he asked Forrest Russell to keep him informed as to the timing for that permit. +� • � • Planning Office Hou�s Howard Dahlgren March 25, 1988 5. 6. Page # 4 We talked about the existing easements that are commonly owned by the development in the area. Two of these easements cross the Target land going straight north to Commerce Street from the east side of the car wash, and anther 30 foot easement on the north side of the Perkins building. These easements may be a factor in determining the most appropriate re-routing for the service road. Mr. Peterson said that he would have these sketches finalized and bring them to a meeting next week, which the staff set for 11:15. Forrest Russell will get an estimate of the total investment for tax purposes, and Mr. Peterson will also get an estimate of his potential investment if what remains of the 1.273 acre site is developed for his purpose. The bottom line here may be that more intensive development is necessary to make a tax increment program work. Kruse (6445-9188) Doug Kruse is with Midway Sign Company, and proposes a sign for Ramsey Engineering on the front of their property north of County Road C. He noted that Ramsey Engineering has acquired another company which operates in other states where the name Ramsey Engineering' cannot be used, because they do not employ engineers. They are, in fact, a manufacturing technology company. Thus, they propose to change the name to "Ramsey Technology, Incorporated". Mr. Kruse proposes a sign for them to be a low ground sign about three feet off of the ground, and 2 feet high, with a total of 16 sq. ft. We suggested that such a small ground sign might well be allowed closer to the right of way then the normal set back required for buildings in the industrial district, which is 40 ft. We had some difficulty in determining exactly where the right of way line is, but he is going to conduct additional researcii with his client to determine where their front property line lies (on the north side of County Road C). It would appear that this sign will be very attractive, and can be placed within the approximately 42 ft. of grass area that is in front of the existing Ramsey Technology Companies structure. Schmidt (893-9766) Gordon Schmidt and Mark Casci (613-2a96) are proposed partners for the property at 1910 West County Road C, which consists of 2.9 acres and is, in fact, half of what at one time was Bob Aschbach's construction yard on the south side of the tracks, south of County Road C, slightly east of the i � � �j Planning Office Hours Page # 5 � Howard Dahlgren March 25, 1988 projected alignment of Prior Avenue (if it went to County Road C) , This site has a collection of buildings including a quancet hut. We had talked to them previously about converting the use of this land, at which time they were thinking of keeping some of the old buildings. They now propose and agree to tear down all of the old structures and redevelop this site in it's entirety for a"mini-storage'� facility. Roseville does not have such a facility, and the use is not listed in the Industrial district. This may be an appropriate site for such a use, because we do not want to take one of the more prominent sites, where more intensive development might be appropriate. Here, however, the properties partially screened by the hill on the south side, and would result in the redevelopment of rather unsightly parcels today. They also talked about the possibility of developing a car wash facility which is a special use permit in the Industrial district. We noted the extreme importance of doing a mini-storage area extremely well. We agreed that � the more successful mini-storage operations in the Metropolitan area are those with a high degree of amenity along the frontage in particular. We suggested that the hire a qualified, good designer to come up with development proposals which can then be reviewed with the staff. We noted that it would likely be necessary to amend the ordinance to add a mini-storage facility (it is different then warehousing) to the zoning ordinance as a special use before proceeding. He may send a letter with such a request to the city in the near future. It would appear that this property could be well developed for these uses if properly done, and constituting needed provision for a needed service in the city, as we11 as a considerable aesthetic improvement in the process. • � � � � � � 2� 3� 4� 5 � A � B � C � �.b E � F � G r.e4 H :�.o I � J � K � � � � 2�� 3 �� 4 � ROSEYiLLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS �-Z3•� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW & UBAN � � M 17 ° 18 � 19 � 20'� � 10 � II � 12 � 13 i� 14 :I 15 zl 16 � 17 'sl 18� � 19 � 20 =I �c�vc��. �• , s,:o A � B � C � �.o � E nm F � G � H � I � J �.�. K ,.� � Lo • � s March 18, lggg TO: FROM: Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PI,ANNING OFFICE HOURS, March 16, 1988 1. Smith (482-9677) Larry Smith was in with Lee Maxfield, who heads one of the better market research companies in the Twin Cities, and Sam Cave, local r�sidential developer. Larry Smith, an architect, is in the business of developing proposals, and was previously with Arvid Ellness, who of course is the architect for the Villa Park Senior Citizens project on 8 and Dale. Smith is trying to locate for Sam Cave, multi- family development potentials. We discussed two locations, in the County Road C"Twin Lakes" area. We suggested the development of the northerly por�ion of the Highland Motor Freight parcels. Although it is vacant, it might be difficult until s�tch � time that the "parcel" is cleared and developed pforer multi�familyWeor o�fices, as proposed. The other possibility we discussed is the conversion of the office warehouses north of Oakcrest. We talked about a need for a fairly int�nsive, high qualit� development to make it economically feasa.ble to convert the land from industrial to multi-�amily housing. They are goinq to prepare some preliminary concep�s, and discuss some of the numbers with Crai be at this meeting) as a prel minaryas�nalysiae of development potential. We agreed �hat a appropriate scale here might be larger than � Sam Cave �is prepared to handle. This was just a getting into a� extensive development p�an wtzere the n�ambers are out of scale with the possibilities. 2. Gruenwald �489-4249) Rosemary Gruenwald is the national manager for the Rosevi Family Physicians clinic, consi�ting of doctors Connollye and Waldenberger, internists, officing at 1901 L�xington. This was a single family corner lot, and is approximately a, 1,800 sq, ft. structure. (We scaled it at approximately 58 ft. x 32 ft.) She was in to talk about their proposed ground we had discussed earlie�. We suggested, due ta sign, which visibility, • � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 18, 1988 n Page# 2 that a ground sign placed closer to the right of way then 30 ft. but at about 1/2 the normal pylon size sign, might be appropriate if well designed, and carefully sited. She is going to pursue this potential. We also talked about their desire to expand. They now have non-conforming parking directly off of the street in front of the building (in the front yard). We note that this is non-conforming, and that the building cannot be expanded unless this parking is corrected. The prob].em, however, is that there is not enough land to properly accommodate the parking they have (approximately 11 spaces) and to provide for any addition. We suqgested that they may wish to consider selling the building for some other use, and relocating their clinic, rather than trying to stuff too much into an inadequate lot. She is going to discuss the possibilities we reviewed with �he doc�ors, and perhaps take some action. We suggested the use of an architect i€ they are considering some use on the building. 3. Tonia (4�3-8312� Mark Tonia, and Darrel Stuart, were in from the Roseville office of Coldwell Banker to discuss the possi}ale re- platting af t�wu existing lots at the Northeast corner of Roselawn and Dale Street. Directly north of the east lots is a very steep hill, and a street there is platted (perpendicular to Dale Street), as Carlisle Street, but not built. The terrain to the Nor�h and East is steepr and is largely undeveloped. A part of it is owned by Dr, Smi�h, who lives in th� contiguous house on Ryan Street. We suggested that if all of these neighbors got together, �, plan fnr the development of this property could be �repared, though our last talks with Dr. Smith suggested that he wished to leave it in it's larqe lot status for the time being. The two lot� that they are interested in (that's the Northeast corner), have a hous� on them tha� has been p�rt�ally burned. They are suggesting the possibi�ity o� removing the house and perhaps replattinc� the two lots into three lots. The lot frontage on Roselawn is 227 ft., which is a little short for three lots if we keep a lot approximating 1A0 �t. in width in the corner. T�ey are going to talk to the neighbors and see if some plan can be evolved. 4ther than that, they may laok at ways in which �h� two lots can be divided into three, by having only two lots fronting on Roselawn. 4. Dunwel,l (483-67011 Tom Dunwell was in with revised plans for the extension of � parking for the Mueller-Bies folks. With him was one of lnis architects, Mod Feders. The plan indicates an additional accommodation for 25 parking spaces on the single family lot ti Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren March 18, 1988 � � • Page# 3 to the south of the existing Mueller-Bies establishment. Three spaces would have to be removed to get an access drive to this lot (from the existing lot), resulting in a net increase of 22 spaces. The grade worked out such that the new parking area would be at the higher level, leaving the lower land to the east physically separated (by the steep grade). Tom and the Mueller-Bies people have talked to the city Parks department about the city purchasing this land, and had agreed upon a price o€ .28 per sq. ft. which is the price proposed for similar low land to the north, �ahich are parts of the backs of lots that front on County Road B. This proposed use is a special use in the R-1 district, and thus no rezoning is involved. The special use permit, however, will be necessary. They propose to meet with the neighbors, in particular the homeowner �o the south to discuss implications of this impact. Someday it would be nice �.� the B-Dale Men's club could purchas� the house to the North for additional parl�inq, or perhaps it could be shared for additional parking with the Mueller-Bies people. The single family hom� to the south wili now be an isolated residence, obviously at some point in the future some other use would be appropriate for �he property. We al�o discussed the r�eed to berm the land an the west side of the lot which is across the street from a single family house on the west side oi Dale Street. 5• Krenqle f639-63501 K�is Krengle, a realtor, was in to discuss 1887 and 1895 Rice Stree�. This was �he �roperty that was proposed at one tim� for a pool hall. He now has a buyer interested �n purchasing all three lots (lots three, four, and fiv�), on which the southerly most lot (lo� fiv�) rera�ed to Steve Zeis, for the storage of heavy equipment. This was fo�merly an A&W roo� beer site and the building is used For stora�e purposes as well as the exterior. On lot faur (the one in the middle), w� proposed to have an eas�ment ov�r the southerly forty feet for parking ior the 1ot to the �o�ath. We discussed han�ling of this as a mat�er of changing the lot lin�s, or handling it as an easem@nt. We suggested that he �ii�cuss �his with Charlie Honchell, in as mu�h as the lot line may be able to be shifted without re-pl�tting the land. No new uses were discussed for the three lots in question. At this stage it is a matter of the sale of the land to a �ew investor. We noted the �egul.ations xegarding the setback for parking, contiguaus to side lo� lines, and �.t°s implications t�o the re-platting of properties. In a deve].opment proposal, this can be handled by a PUD� which in effect can thus comk�ine garking lots for two contiguous properties. � � I=� 2� 3� 4� 5 �ro A 3000 B � � D ;{f0 � F csss G � H :�.o � � J �rzo K �� 2'� 3�� 4 � ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNIN� OFFICE HOURS �• tb•s� DAHLGREN SHAROLOW S UBAN � W _ �� (0 � II � 12 � (3 �� 14 � IS � 16 � 17 � I E� � 19� � 20 =1 ! w s.�a !�� '. A i_ � � ��• �roo 7 � � 'I .. ��p l� }'�. ' . �i RI �� 8 �'� '� � µ4 � ��a+ . � �� z �[—'�"� 'o+ ��JE..� r— C � y � Lt9 I 4i _� � �� - � '� � � � � ��'� 1 ; � E �� .�. � �� ,, i �� y s ' �� . `! ��=+I tn� :' _ "` G ' u zt�q " ��--r H ' ��,��.. � �:.��i �� ...o s � e y � ., �'�,�� .� �� J � � �`�` �� r ' �aro -\�` �� r- �- "�•'=F +� �� m `� \�� " ,..c � t — ' ��,1; �i�, � � �� ia � �9 � Zo � ''1�tit�I�L� t � � � March 16, TO: FROM: SUBJE�T: .:. Jim Andre Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, March 9, 1988 �,, �ei � i.nq (483-194�.� George Reiling broug�it in shewing his lanc� on the west divided into 8 buildable lc�ts This drawing, and the various it �s based h�s t�een xeviewed s by I��ve JaniscY�. There th� various shor�lin�s and a preliminary plat drawinq, shore of Lake Owasso, ta be plus 2 out lote (unbuildab�e). �i�oreline definitio� on which by engineering staff as no��d seems to be goneral agre�mant on th�ir app�.ic�tion to th+� plan� Dave notedl tha� �tto D�partment of I��tural Resources de�ines a st�areline where th� clominant "change in v�g�,ta�ianr' nc��urs. �he city �nginaeri�g s�aff �gr�es th�t �his line f� th�a �ppropri� te shor�lin� �'or applying �h� shox�lin� regulation�. Dave na��ci tha�t �NR �ac�uaYly s�a�cv�yed �hfs in the �ie1d. Th� C�rp of �ne�ir��Qx� uses th� too �f �slope as it's dePinition, and re$tricts any �i.c�l� bc�yond tt�a� �aoint. Grasslake wat�rsh�ci C�iatr�c� use� th� to� of �lape a� wel�. A11 lat:� arffi de�sic�neei �o �n�e� �h� 75 ft. s�etlback P'rom th� �hore�in� as d�+PinQd by thQ cit�+. �i�r. RQiling �pr�poaes to dedic�te the �ciditi.ona� 1�0 Pt. oF r�yht oE way� far Vi�tor�e, but r�quss�s �hat tkac� front y�rd ��t��ck be reducad �`ro� 3�D �"�.. to 25 t�, , T�hc� �ity dc�finQs tM� norm�l �ho�celia�� s� 8G. S ft�, �lr. Re��ling h�s c�uarrelled wf�h the� Corp of �r�gin�r�rs at�ct �'he D1�R in thQ p��r ovc�r thi� p�oper�y. Mo�Q��r` Mr. Rei�li�g ne�w pro�asQ� to prc�cQ�d ��thout di��u�e� o� �#�� a�et of the D�IR o� the� C4��a oP �ngi��ar�. 'ihe tw� a�tic�ts wi31 r�mair� un�devc��p�b�Q unti� sstac� time in th� �ut�r�, as �i�� r��ulationa m�y ch�nq� oac �hQ�� i� m di�fa��n� interpxetat�on �p�li�d. The lot wici�hs ar� ad�cr8t�d to ��ommodr�t� a storm eaw�r that was cons�ructed by th� city. It was porcc�ivad t�a be e�n a� �o� line� betwe�n two of th� lot� pgoposaci in thc� �alat. �asgri on �hie dosigl�� thi� �tArm ��w�r co��d havc� b�en taovc�d s f gh�:l y � but the �ot wielths ar� �d j usted sc as to aG�omm�da�e tha� exia�ing �asemc�n�. It wauld a�paer �Yais }�lat can be prapar�d �ar r�viow by �1��► p�anning c�ammi��ian �t i�t's M$y, �� m�eting. C� � � Planning Office Hours Howard Dahlgren March 16, i988 Page# 2 2. �xammen j439-7�12,� Don Brammen is the son-in-law of Clean Gar1�y, who owns �he 95 �partmer�t uni�ts on th� wes�t �ide of C�ntenniai (behine� ttae Hamline Shoppi,ng C�nter� and hi� broth�r Cal, wito ow�s the units on tho east �ide. Dan Brommen has a cc�mp�ony called King�wood ASar�ac��ment Cot�pany who man�gc�s 840 uni�s o� ap�r�mc�nti� in �he Twin Ci�i��, som� of wt�ich b�],or�g tc� �t.i.s father--in�law. H� nat�s th�t �`our yea�c� aqo �hc�y i�ad a� pr+�blem w�,th ti�a� p��o�. and th�� ills�ci it in. Thi� ��s �►� indoor gsoc�l, �r�d �hc�y cor�v�rtQd the s}a�c� ta a p�r�y roo� and r�ecr��tinn are�s. Th�y now wfsl� tn cu� ciown tha s�ize o� thase sgi�ce� at�� add ane or ��+n dwal l ing �nit� i� �t�e�� pa�e�. W� eompu��d t'�Q donsiti�� n� dQ��r�xninad �ha� �hr��a i� aU7,345 �q. �t. in tha �it�, �nd �h�t �� .t� ��e� rgquirem�n�g a��ordine� to RTA dQn�ity �ra�ui�a�ra�n�� i� 2�5, 24A �q. �t. Thu�, �t w�oul�i appc�ar from � d�n�i�Y et�ndpoint thorfl is n�+� acidit,ional 18nd to ju��i.i� t�� wo s�d�tione� unit�� pco��eci �om� conc��n r�c��ardinc� �n� changc� it� �.�ia �i� wh�.�ch ��r�de� to �'��du�c� �i�ea c�uali�y c,� 2�Ee�'� i� �ra c�f�o�� i�p�y ��as3u�� c� pr�l�t. Ue�n ��id �4�� h� ��ro b��ti�� e�e�h�t►c�� $m�n�ti�� ar� �ha �wo ��raj�cts. �"he �ro��t to �?�t� e��t mwn�d by C�� t�a� �rr ir��Ioo� �r�i�minc� �oal, m�n� ��onf�c g��o�ect, oP �c��aes�Q, t�a�a a l��c�r ��ty� roo�n �pa�cQ� �ta�rl�� t�nc�c�li, r�ho ar�s pr��ant �t �h� mr�e��i�,e�, not�d �fi��t �he ci�y h�s h�rd �Srable��t witM �a�ri�ln� i�r �i�ca ��c��. �� pp��rs� th�� t�nn�� caurt r�ri�in�l ��v p��csd botatc�e�n �he twa p�rB��r�g g�ar�gc� �t�v��u��s co�l� bo �� ia��n�t�� nc� ad�i�ian�i ��,�i,�� . �tQ no��d th�t an� eh�n�� in �h�� e�c�rr��.�p�ient r�4u�.d h�v� �o b� �roca�s�ri �� n �mencl�onr to the i�U�, ir� �� mu�ct� �� +��aa� �r�� haw i� w�� o�r�g�ne�.l�y �p�rovQd anc�an fi�r:�� ca��x�u�t�c�. I� su�ma�r�, it �ppa�r� th�� t�e��e �r�� c��i�der��l� c�ua�� ions r�laCing to tha le�vel ot satwica (�s z��laata� t� it� nric�in$� p�o�asa]� ar�d +d��c�lo�a�n�n�� Adec�+��cy o� p��r�,in�, and a�de�qu�� l�nd ar�� to ��ti��'y d�n�.;i�y r�c��ir�am��t�. �� ug��a�c�d th�t �hay think c�rQ�u11� �ba�� !�€�� e�le�mQnt� before pracae�ciit�g w�,th �ny lca�ral a� cicst�il. 3, N��n� (9�a-�� Cory N�ym� mnc� �ob bc�esa �pa�� a� ��ering ��rvice au� of zopo �a�. Et. ,�n� propose 6, oQti �o �, Uq0 �q. �t to s�tisfy tn�ir �ro�ected n+�ods. xh�y spc�cialize in c�tQrinq ta bu��na��as, luncta�s �nd other r�ven��. Th�y woul�i a�so lik� tca provide �it ciown s�xv�.cc� to 8� - 115 peopl�. �h�� cu�rb�n� op�r�tion is �t 3a9� aw��so in Shorovi.�w, t�e�x �` Planning office Hours Howard Dahlgren � March 16, 1988 Victoria and 694. Bel�.i ��1�. � � The existing operation Page# is called Pot wer� inquirir+q as to th� use of the �°Xdlained ito them They sou�h of Fudclruckexs) . W p it og Snelling t lied to that str�cture, the parking �'atios that we�e app considered grincipally a retail daytime U�o n b�in9 rincipa]. nighttime u�sB• conjunction with tlne restaura�t p T#�Qse ��s, �he tot�l parking provided ls h�� r cipr ai �parkinc� four b�ailciings on th�s sit� �� ta it is understood that ha►ving a fou�th eesements, However, r,�vide adoquato parking if r��taur�+nk g� �h� sitQ wi11 WQ �ug��st�cl �h�Y coulel ch�ck ali �au�r arQ succ+m�$ful• roval. It �ppear� t�,�$e n,�mb�rs with tho or�ginal �PP s that � i�ourth ra��tauran� in �he�Q� tra�ctur� wou��d� �ob�riou $d�i�us p�rki�ng prob praduc� � potea�tially �. �.:.:��`� ��l oar� on a� 3.�� arnand �ck ha� lfv�rl in Ro�aviAncl �out 4� ��, jus� wast a+�r� s%t� nort�h ot` Count� �ta�d �, N� propo�� of w��xQ �he ri��at o� �aay� ��r�ts County Ro�� . �gus� �n� �� ►rv� ou� a pir�ee� o� �hi� lAnc! �`ar h�s °�ot �n or perk��p� d�v�lop th� r��m �ndar w it i�c� �� o� ��u�s�d thQ �oa� i��i 1��y �o�,� �or�, o� ta�+nhc�u�in�. �obl�ta o� a� �A a�rt��r�t an �h�� tc�� WQ r�o��i ttr� l�ke�ly '� c�E incam��ibil i�y '��t� �'� ��'��vclo�aa nt �ight��b� i��n�►�i�a� �orm ot tov�nhau �,�a �l�o �ug��+tod �ct�� ,��o�ri�at� $t �thr� R-1 dQn�� • �iv�t� ��c�� ( � �k� J �� pos�ibility o� d�i�g ��t�1� r�i�`� A � cl�d� a�nd thu� �r�vi�ict a�� r�� +��►d �ul��a �a� �r�� C�►� Y �bl�� r�c�+� �igh� o� �+��P w�fthou� t�� p ot��nt�.�1 hA��+��. �a�vinr� su�h s d+��aka�c�c�r�� t��c�c ��a��i ��1 bvilcl�ar�, ��nd,�ox Wa ��uc�g��c�d h� ccnt��t �am� p *e�m��n�� ar�on� w�c� r�t�y ��C h�t� i�n th� l�ytau� ot ��oi� s �4 �V� �� Q�l �Q+li�+�3df+Rwec!♦ 7f�lV �HLY �Y��4 Vil+it�i�� thi� �ro��t� • cm�� ga k�c� w�� on this s�itea, �nd �t�min�l� us �1�� cn�r�y Y �u�n e�d down �y ��►Q �'�t1� �o� t�a con�truet�on �� '�uch ��Anda� q�►ra�A �a� c�no� �anu�� nc�. 5� var� �nd�1��'� �i�vi� �ivo �� 2a� l��ia� hAving Stc� �ro� th� K�ppier�. '�h�� 10� �s �u�rch�� h�►t lo'� ra�c�ntly �tivai l�rqa �om�Arfld te� atMc�r� i�n�th �� hw� t�c��ra��rjd r�l Y ia lo�m�tadl �� '��ri� �n� ��riQn Raa th� ].ac�tior� a� '�h� ThQy h�d a BUYvoy �� t'he �at tl t�i� �ra►w3ng thA� it wauld houe�+ � It app�+�rs � rom ox�m in i�g �� sa�tr+�mQly di��icult to plac� Ane�$h�o �e t� th� ��o� ��part�►. ThQ �gw hom� �i�� wsauld a e �c��nt hoan� ��nd �a 30 foo� ��t th� buildin� Qnvo�ap� t�o th p makQ thr�� sid�s of thia new lot� � Planning Office Hours • Howard Dahlgren March 16, 1988 � � Page# 4 small that it would seem impossible to build an adecraate house. We sugyeated that they might consider the zoning af tM.e land to R-2 and perhaps add an additionaY unit to �hc� existing Btructure� It would appear that this rather �arge lot would be adequate for this purpose. We noted the citys poli�y regardi.nq duplexes and sugg�st�d that if t1�e�r want to pursue tihis course they may wish to discus� thi� �ith sorae of �heir immedfete neighbors. � I �I 2� 3� 4� 5 � A � B � C � � E � F � G � H :�.o I swo � K � � � � 2 � � 3 �� 4 � ROSEYI�.LE MINNESOTA PLANt�DING OFFiCE HOURS �� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 3 UBAN o� o� o� o� ti .� _. � io �� i i�J i2 � ! 7 4I 18 � 19 �I 20 '� 13 i� I 4 :� t 5 zl 16 � 17 gl I 8 � 19 �I 20 'I � � March 10, 1988 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, March 2, 19Ba l. Smitch (339-G122 ) Larry Smith, an architect who used to work for Arvid Ellness, was the principle architect in charge of th� Villa Park senior citiz�ns project at the southeast of County Road B and Dale Str�et. He is now on his own, and calls himself A�Iainstreet Developmen�:. His intent is to assemble and originate development projectsF p;.incipally in the metropolitan area. He had looked at the marina site on the west end of Lake Owasso, but found that the "price" was too high �or redevelopment for multi-family housing. He not�d a recent development he did, (but did not build) was a$200,000- $250,000 dollar per unit housing project in Grand P9arais. The market proved to be to thin. One of his potential clients in Roseville is Sam Cave, who • t�ir. Smith says is inter�sted in "quality family multi- housing projec�". 6Ve r�viewed with Mr. Smith various multi- family housing potential in the city including thos� in the Twin Lakes Area. He seemed more interested in townhouse projects, which would not be feasible as a reuse of in�3ustrial land, as is proposed in the Twin Lakes Area. Craig Waldron review�d with him the city's tax increment d�velopmen� policy aiid procedures, t�ir. Smith will continue to look around th� city for potential d�velopment possibilities. 2. Murinw�ki (C33-6944) Mark i�lurlowski was in again with a preliminary development plan for the Jim Trapp Clean-Co site. The users, as proposed, would be eudget-Rent-A-Truck (not semi's), and a 2,000 sq. L-t, second floor office f.or Jim Trapp Reality, builders offices and contractors yard, and the used garbage truck and repair operation. We not�d immediately that the garbage truck operation hac7 been previously disappr�ved for a special use permit, and that it an� has been an illegal use on this site. We suggested that operatian as a part of a n�w building would be inappropriate. The layout c7id nat conform to the industrial setbacks tor parking, The appropria�e screen � fencing was not shown for the contractors yard area, and the circulation proposed for th� operation of the Cl�an-co �ti (truck cleaning operation) porta.on of the �uilc3ing didn't � work w�ll. We note too, that th� com�inat?on o:C the Clean- Co �.ruck washing operation with tne o�her us�s s�emed to be potentially incornpatible, The building had a 30,400 sq, tt, ceiling height. Offices would be� o�tpa lmezzanine le e1 f a� about �,000 sq, ft. Phase two woulcl be an adciitional 7 000 sq• Ft. n�ar the north end of the site. t�le suggested that the pl�ns be revis�d based on our di�cussions, and a determination made as to wh�ther the land will be industrial or busiriess. It seems that a miYture of the two is going to be diificult on this sit� utilizing the existing uses, the Budg�t proposal, and Murlowski s o�eration. Craig Waldron revi�wed the tax increment policy and some basic numbers rela�ing to ch� clevelopment. We noted that the council's abili.�y to utilize his tax increment as �n asset �o the development would b� limited by the extent to which the development is considered to be a dramatic improvement and �n asset to che city. hir . hiurlowski cloted tha� the �:sis�ing taxes on the property are $16,000. p�r ycaz, and the future taxes they calculated • a� $80,000. dollars. Usiiig so;ne rules o� thumb, Craig �aaldron no�ed i:hat the increment might be $23,000 -$25,000. �`tz. Waldron reviewed the potential for "pay a� yo� gon incrernent techniqse were th� increment is passed on to the d�veloper �g� the ta;� iricre. � dev�lopm�nt. It appearLd Fro;n th? nL ;�' pr`�duc�d by the wric� dowii of a gen�-ral i�umbers tha� a �;�aximum if this p echn que�l� rel to� be�used ��t' �`�ight be the 3. �rwin (88�-3775) �T1Ill Erwin is th� manager of LPD Electric which h�s facilities in Lake E1mo and Blooming�on. Th�y ar� lookin for a sit�� in Ros�vill� and m�xy �onsid�r leasing, bu� would prefer to own. They are major supplicrs oi ele�trical a�plial�ces primarily to contractors, and specializ� in General Electric and Hot Poini. They re �i�� :riteria ar�� Ttiey do not sell re�ail. gaod access (prefer�lbly from a freeway), 35 min. to most d�livery ar�as in the ��Ie�ropolitan area� and 24 - 30 thousand sc�, i" t�1e revi�wed various poten�ial l�cations includirig some of Lhe newer bu � l�iings tha� hav� be�n built in R�sevi].le. Tneir interest�c� �n Ro:�,�vi11e because of it s strate locatior� which t�� discuss�d at some l��ngth They w�.11 1 ook ��roun�3 th` city, arld get back i:o us reg�1rding fu�ur� � possibilities. ,` 4. Her�n�lberrv (546-&233) Jim H�nnelberry is a realtor looking for a development site �' for Prism Equiti�s Incorporated for a potential multi-ramily housing site for �pproximately 192 uni'ts. We reviewec� site po�.ential in �he city wh�re existing or proposed zoning could accommodate that scale o� devel.opment, We also revi�wed development po:licy, market conc3itions, and types of units that cxist�d in th� Ros�ville market today. 5. Brannon (G46-?OB7) Dorothy Brannon was in with h�r hu�band regarding the potent� �1 for building a 7 ft. by 10 ft. pylon sign for their_ car wash on Larp�nteur Avenue. They ar� t.rying to locat� thE sign in conlormance with the 30 ft. setback. They have a propas�d location cahich would be 15 fi:. back from the right-of-w�y. 4�� discussed various options, suggesting that they should try to accommodate the sign without a varianc�. They are going to revi�w the alternatives and �;ossibly apply for a v�riance to the Fronz yard setback for pylon sigiis. At the mom�nt there is no pylon sign. 6. Breikrej�tz (&33-a�51) Tom Breitkreutz is the chief �xecutive ofFice of a company th�.�t builds truck trailers . One oC their better kno�vn produ�ts is str�iight truck bodies that are built for Pepsi- cola and Coca-cola, etc. They now operate in buildings that • are owned b� th� Space Cen��r north ot the Unisys buildings and 'nav� pro�ose�i to pur.:hase that properi�y with th� intent of expanding. They discussed these possibilities cviL-h us sev�ral months ago. Tom reports that the Space Cerzter people do no� wish to sc,l. and he is in immediate need of expansion for parts of hia £acility. '1'he trail mUbile building is now �:mpty, with 27,300 sc�. ft., and the ocrn�rs as repre�e�zted by one of the partners, Roc�er Spitzenbarger, was in �vith his son JefF, to discuss the temporary u�� of th�: trail mobile building L-or ereitkreutz's oper��tion. ��ae r�vie�ved the comprehensive plan, and the �otenL-ial for this property as i�: relat�s �o businesa uses, wllich the council haci decid�d would be the city's objectiv� as a� the 1979 comprehensiv� plan. Though Arnold Eieikenen (the o�h�r partner in Lhe trail mobile �roperty) has been dis::ussing th� pos�ibi�ity of convercing �h�: .land �o Uusiness usc, c�ir. Spit�enbarg�r said chat the partnership would preL-er to l�ase the building For at least; a cou��lc� more years. We reviewed i:h� uses as prc�posed wi�l�i th� city at�orney who noced that the k�uilding could be us�d for tl�ie same operati�n as the trail moo��.� coiiducced at trie site. t^1� su�geste�i, thcrefor�, thai: they consider a l�ase limit�d to t��o years so tha�: if cvithin that time a redeveloprnent potential exists, it woul� ae � possible for the owner and th� ::ii�y to proc�ed with morE incensiv� business dev�lopment. � � C� • � �• �[ermes (646-7]�5� Don Hermes and his brother Tom were in with Gordy Howe, r�altor, to discuss the redevelopmen� of their property at 2025 West Roselawn. They noted that they bought this land in 1968, and proposed as oF approximately Jun� 1, 1989 to redevelop the land for singl� family lots. This is a 4.2 acre site which would appear to work well developed as proposed in the preliminary layout they brought for discussion purposes. $. Karr 1484-'�77R� Florence Karr is working wi�h the Roseville His�orical Society in preparation of a history of the City o;E Roseville. 6Ve spent several hours talking with her regarding events, dates, and development pro ects constructed in the city over the last 30 years. She seemed well informed on much of the background, and it ap�ears that the history will be a well done, worthwhile project. � Nro Q � 6 t!g C � � Zf�O E .�' F csss G � H :�.o I� � � K � `I 2� 3� 4� 5� 6'I 7�� 9� 10 cs I! � 12 --�i 13 '•�"a !4 � OS � �6 y 1? -*�y IS � I� � 20 '� / I / / l� 1 1 �, _._... �l� �� t .�� _ r _ , . .. . � � � � 2'� 3��T 4 � RosEvi«E MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 3 UBAN 3- 2• � � . .. �� io � i i� i2 � s� �� 4 :� �s ?� is � �� s.ro �7 �� a' � �9 � Zo � i�� March 2, 1988 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, F�bruary 24, 1988 1• �ones (642--1'��7 Bill Jones was the developer (and is also an attorney), who start�d �he initial development steps of �he four quadraminium b�ildings which were startecl in July of 1985� west o� I,exington, and south of the mobile home park . Albert fIoffineyer, the architect on the project, ultima�ely took over as the d��eloper along with �:he Union Bank and Trust company, which ultima�ely Eoreclbsed with a share sa,le in Septemb�r, 1986. The project cansisted af fnu� builclings with 16 units. The �irst building is up and two af the units within that t�uilding �re substantiall}� coa��pleted and w�ce at one tirne committ�d to buyersd n,��,� Jones is negor�ating with the b.�nk to �u�cty�ase the as ir: s�:�nc�s and cornpl�te it. �ill Jone$ ��ke� aboU��the po��ibilit�r af the city building rhe �ublic str�e� (Ftcy�@ Place) r�tE�er ��en to com�l�t� the has �c�n �tarte� can Che propert�. D Fve �Jar�a,�ch �raote�i �t�at � h� �ou�d ��t�.tion far the stre�t to be t�uilt, �ut ��t th� ��:�essm�nt wauid ��a�l �ntirely an his� prop�rty. ��cl th�� is th� w�y t�� coun�:il had d�cic�e�i, when this prop�o��al w�s r��riew�c� ,�n �,985, �`h� �Eaii.�r ��r�c i� �vail�bl� Eor $al�, anc� reporterlly th� �sking �ric� i� one million doilar�. wo�id ap�e�c 4i��at �he �r�il�r I� �ark woul�i ultimat�ly ne�c3 the ��uvlic strec� a� �,� t� gair� acce�� to �h� �;xtrem� d�ptti oi �he �rop�rt� {to �he w�st) . �'�uII. ,it wQuld �ak� g�r��e in �k'e iong term �or th� pubi ic s�:r�e� to t�e ouil �� u�e�, ra�h�r than con�tru�t � ari�.�a�e �lxi�°�w�►y c�nt;o thi� prop�rky, r�suating ir� ,anc] not w.�n�:in� Lo �ay ��ssment ,��e (srher� snc� it tt�t ��:�eet wer� �o �� uizt in th� t��ure} . P�1r. Jane�; ia ��oinc3 to ;on�inu�.► to negc�tiate writh �h� bank, ana �:on�ic��r th� ao�siuiliti�� c�� khe ro,�cl ��iAng�. 2. Su� 1� i3�7��t u� - ��n��is ��alla was in with Tnm ft�vc:lson, £rc�m Lh� si�n co�n�any. T'Qm �c;�r:�t�:r from KKC, �:ct�iteck, �30� �'ir�e f'rom �'in� �ssoci��e;:►, anc� L�rry Fag� �rom �rvic� �ZZn��,� Arc�i�ects oF�xc�. ��'t�ey w�re in to cii�cu�$ the revi�ec� loc�tion oi th� new bank an�l otFi�� b�ild�.t�g t,o b� c�nstructed sout� og �,tye �urnit�ar� ��, ��,st �� County Ro�d G. Tl�is is �in 18,000 �q. �t. builc�ing with 9� parking s��c�s, with �a bank occupying a��aroximately 3,500 sq. ��. This will be an �11 brick building with �wo drive thru � lanes. Th� siCe �la� has be�r� adju��ed so �� to provide adequate turnin�� rad,ii Cor th� c��ive through l�ne�, and th� overall plan now includes a loop street access to the • interior properties. What will be needed here will be an amendment �o the PUD, and a lo� division. It was agreed, on advice from rlr. Honchell, that a lot division would be appropriate at this time and a plot �lat would come later, so that ultimately all the propertie� would be platted (the same process that was used across the street). 3 • L� 1430-1500 ) Tom Low from Con�Spec Corporation was in to review the revis�d plans for the office building at the southwest corner oF new Highway 8(TH 88) and Rice Street. Th�y have added the la�dscaping we have rec�uested on the east and north side of the building, and th�y have removed a11 of �he roof top units anc3 will �ut the turna-es inside the struGture. This, th�n solves the groblem of screening tha� we �talFced about �t the last meeti�g, so Ghat building is ready to go. 9. Connnt _ � (6��-63��..Z aanny Comm�r� �nc3 Pau.l Klocit were in wi�h George Letenr�re (an empl,oyee a� Cornmera) to cliscuss the pos�ib��lities of d�vc�lopi�a� u�' to 120,000 sq. ft. 4f r�kail space at �he s4utire�►st cor�ner of CounCy Road a�2 and Cle�el�nd. They o�n � stra�ctUre here, �nd would a�c3 th� vac�nt sike �� the corner to it, ��us congider th� purcha�e o£ the �r�il mobile sike, wt�ich is n4w v�can� �nci 9wr�ed by Arn�o�d ��ick�n�n. � Cr�ig ��ta3.cJron r�vi�w�d w�Ch th�r� �h� Cex increment pfl��i�ilitie�, no�ing tt��t tE�i� �oa, cau�rJ �a� �vAil�ble, i� it �� s�ntiaai ko make so,�tiething v�ry �+�tractive k��tpp�n t��at �oulci o�h�rwi�e not be ��s�i�l�. Th�y r��k� t�� her� �re major r��il cu�to�mer� tha� wAnt ta b� n��r., l�ut r�o� in ti�� reg,ionAl cent�r. ,d� n�oter� that re��ril �aulc3 �ot s�e d��ir�d a�ros� 35ti�r, but �hat An �ttractive �usines� c��velo��n�nt �lon� �-2, � aL 35t�t, �ro�ld b� �,n a�s�t to tl» �r�� ncl i� i.� aceocc]anc� with th� c:�m�reh�n�iv� p�.�n sdonted 3n 19q0. �loc�t di�cu�s�c� tt»�r �l�n,ze�l develo�mcnk �� sev�ral ye�rs g��o Co ex��n�i it tQ ,�or�i�r�� ra�' tt�� rilli�ms Pipelin� peop�r�y, P�uY Klodt r�aG�d t��t the ��illi�m� ��ople ar� in � fnc�i�i�� at�ern as c�� i� �ime, �nd khat �i�im��Iy ti��8e E�ra�cc�ti�� nay t�@come �v��,idble, F�ul w�� in touch with �ane A��nt�r, aaho i� in cF��rye �f t��illiam� r��l �st�ke. 'i'i��y a�,so c�is�ussecl the�r i�r�r��t xn �i�v�lop�ng or3 r�� w,�� side a� 35ti�1, inciu�lir�g ttj� ��os�it��liCy oE Caking ov�r pro��r�ie� curr�nkly plann�e� by a�hers. `�'hey �1�� .,cu�s�d �roc��d��y witll �n�okher ��il�in� �� he PA�ton Roaci site w��ich i� al��dy �rop�rly ��ned �nc� gl�t��d, witi� �t�e �tree� com�l�ted or�� t.?��e w�� gide o� tij� � �ro�ert�. � 5. Webb (63�-3825)_ Richard jaebb was in with Don 5tencil from Suburban Engineering an�3 �lrvid Ellness, archi�tect, to reviEw their • revisions to the site plan £or th� Elder Eiom�stead, th� project th�y propose an the o1d Owasso schaol site. Thi�, you' 11 recall, is the General Mills anc3 Wilder Founc�ation praje�t that they built on Hwy. 7 in tdinnetonka. They have found tha�. the t9etropolitan Wa�te r4anagement �rur�k sewer (36") loGat�d �n the sit� is closer to Victoria than th�y anticipated, leaving inadequate space to design the structuce �s they origin�lly �roposed. They did a layout, which they showe�3 us, indicating how �hey coul� sc�ueexe it in, but it l.�aves inadequate sp�►ce for vehicl�s off af Victoria avenue. They wece looking at the pos�ibility of �s�ec� �hat �th�y whi,ch af cour5e w�u�d be costly. �1e su�� mi�ht look a� �asin�.�s�e��i� ��h��t n ghtJheip �th�ir proble� to �he north, to (eliminating the n@ed to r�o�rc: the lin�). This may 1�� b�tt�r us� ofc mon�Y ar�ine �the �� Qpkions � a►nc� com� b�c ��gain Th�y ar� going �o �ex for �v�cth�c reaie�r, 6 , � ., r � ,� 31--_2�.2�. ;�Yi�c� Pl��t is �h� o��ner o� �uc�c�ruck�r `$ in �rie Twin Cit�as f (thrv�gh t�is �i�cus Cor�,�c��tic�r�� a�� 1�v ha� �n is�tQr�� r� wh� +� :� �� ' r�� u t tp b� i,uth�r' a N und th+�n the �3r ick Ove� � a��an�ry. ��i� agre��3 th�t the n�m� �'��rr�r�� 4�� n�� onnotat� � r+��t�aue�nt �raunc3 tk�i� part o� �t�e ��untey �� i� d�e� in th,� ��t eog�� c@�. �hcy �� goi�� to �ry �nd ci��n�c th� n:a:�+�. ��iikc�'� conc�rn i�� a�a�at ��rea� ir� �u�ir�cs�� ti�a� h�� occurre�l �t Ch�o�� vi��bi��it�r ��u�e� o� �kh� n��y r�e �i��e �� t�eir �1 ci��laps��n� th�t h�� oc�urr�c� an �ar�c3 t�h�a� �in� �1��o�iato� h�� r��urchasc� �rom +�1�� t�t�. t�then his buildin�� r��'�s �uiltr til� �lan Ca u��k�ly k�uil� �k�� ir�t�rct��ng� �t CounCy i�oa�t C�n�l 5nallin� �� i].1 intdct. �'��c��, ��t�, th�e new z��v�laP:n��nt occur�inc� Qn th� �i�� 'Qr�y {r��urct��J tr�m th� �tatc) vi�ibil�.�y �r�� t�� a�►th p�rti�:��rly �il� ae ��;nm��reci. ��t� �u��e:,��J �h�y mi�hC 3 t1 � � �' 2 � � C1:� �Y � �. 9"► � � O ti� +: O �: � �1 C 1 C •�� '1 �� !'13 i :� U � �l �dl � � +: � � +� � v�.�ii�iii:.�► ��i�ad�� r::�alt. P�•l�: :�a�k��l Ai��u� �th�r c��r�g�,n� c��i �s��c:�:rr�:. in tt» .cr�a� an� �ii�: ��a��ti;�ei�� or c��:u�1s��r;��:r�� n �:he r�� o�' rh� ein� p�o�e z�:�;r �`"'�o rnen�.�� i��+��i� ��r�:a� �ount� ;ta��l �. ��ie �u�c��:��e�:i ��at� c3�v��. e ov�r t;i�,�e w�t►z ac�:��:� ta �he ��w ea:;��/we�� rc�a�� {�:x�en�lin;� ��a::►��rl,f ��4sn :�ou�l� a9: L�i�v'�) wau.Ac� i�� c,�o��i iQ� nrovic3ing ��+i;ri:•n�� tra:�� to ?��w- �s.��u�:k,er's �ite ar�►�. rec��aG�ion oi: i��sine�� may, o�: cour��o �� u� �o �ther ��ctor� than �ha� oS: vi�i.�ility. Iie �s c�oing �� ook �t th� si�3n �itu.�ti�n ana po�::i.aly� .:on.�i��r some �h�nycs. � L_J �� r s 7. �,etrendr� (63�-631?l G�orge Letrendre, re�resenting Roseville Properties, is interested in the potent�ial conver�ion of three b�aa.ldings into retail. Tlzese are rhr�e buildings on the northw�st corner of Pric�r and County Road i3-2, the outer two of which ar� own�d by Rosevil].e Properties (Danny Comm��rs) . Th� center �uilding, how�v�r, is owned by others and t�1r. Letren�lre was �sking us abc�ut; the po5sibility o£ red�veloping the �rop�z�y Cor �et�il purp�se�. This waulc3 ir�volve rhe rernoval og �h� cent�r builciir�g, and the addition oE an ea�t/we�� wing near �he narth side of rhe pro�erty. 'i'his wcauld �hc;r� produc� �r�ough ar�a t�oe the reanocielinc� o€ the I�uildinc� , for r+�rail �Sur�o�c�. 6�1e �ugge��ec� the ��st ��,1 wou 1� i�� Cor tl�e�� a purch��e t�� center �auilc� in� arte3 �ro�:;c�d. S��e n��`cl t��at for t�x in::r��ent i�u�po��:s, �the r��vel�psn�nr ��u1d r��we t� u� ver� hi��h quality so �$ to b� � ��n�ici�r�ble ��;:�t �� h� ci�� c�� ►�k� � �ta�c ir�c��ner�� 4�c�:�, ��7e no��s� tii�at tearrrig dc�wn � azing�� Q�r�r i��ildir�g �anr! te��l,��i�� i::i� � �:,r��l�: ��ary �r�ils�i�� lo�� nt�t worlt weA l�ac t�x ir�cc��n�nt �ur��,��. a�t� �-w��d, i�ar��,�r � ti��t i t i� the � i�y' ::► ��, i��r ta ca:��our,�� ev� lv�.��n � v,� �� ir��luz�trlat �as�c� fa: ;�or� I�t�r�Wir�� i=,�i�ar �u�l�ty ia��,Ln�a� k��cpa€�ea. �r�iy .�a��ron ►��atc�� a:�� t� ,�r��l�� ut�h�c, ��c�raxi��at� ��.�:,� �ar �� +uil�iro�� a�r� c�a3e��adrenr �c� �t�� :a�ti�� n�,�re�li�.:o��, ��P� ra�t�d th�� t�x �c�;�r��n�nt f s„��nc i�nc,� ��o�� i.�� ;� �� Yd t� aac �� 9r�� v�I��r c�� i��i* w��e r�� u�r�;:�,� ;��}� t��,r=;� a��a �:�� ii1�a� tc� ��n �r�t1�. �� a�� r�vib�,��c� �ir�ric �r��r,�;�:;� do� e�r�: :��vir�� :•�I�il��c� ��ir.'.::1��,4�4 ��Qe ��r"7� •'�� vV�i�v.� F'F�• C�sC �V �i►�� i'+aR.vseO�! 4�'�M�e �t� �x$�r��.►c� �.��F�c°��:e �ic1� �:� ��:�ir�� r�� tta� �x�k� FR��:��., �n� �i��.= ��r��ir tr°�c�� .��t��i�l� r��r�3�nc� ek�� :�ra��l �n� �� 4�� ::�� ;�a�l,��a��+�� in t�� r t��fa� 1� ��;:orcl�r�� i �h �+��. � . ��,�.'°��,i,��l.�.�,.�.�. ��: }�� r��:€1 �C��C+� ��l.;rf��n �:��,1 ��a� �r�:�i�:��:t�o ��i�01 r'�r�i�;� �€�� .�iil� `i`�r�::��so x�� ;_�� o�� ni+ar c�t��•€�� it� ti��c� �ic� C,�c��r�i ��r�r� �,a�rt;��n;; <�i��) a++��t o. �#�;�1 �c�� t;�r��.� :�—� an�j � a �t ��t: . °��1��' � r�.��u�� g ��8� ;: i�� <�i�.t��h��r ��a� �l�c� �r�s��r�t , r�� .;,�� 1r . ��aY�.��:�ic� ��+�;��te�i, �� :.i� ��t�. �� c��:�ri�� tr�� a� ��t� ��c� �� 3�;: ��sil� c�r�� tt�w i t r�.* i��; �t� �.t�t� ��ri�,�l� ��3�i]�� r+��i�i�n�+� u�� ,� tt�� ort�. "�`�� ar�sj�� h�:�:�� .�� a�a �r��r, �� a��a�t�;�� c.�t ts�� ti��i�c�� k��a�t af ti�� r�� 3 r k�t�+�ae;�� ;r i��l f� ��,�n �can�ci C�r �u�i��,M.,:�, ��r�� ti�a i��.��t� �c� ��r�.;�D �'�r rn�� ►��r�. 'i'i��gf� c:lte; w;_t;il �.�t ��,Er;:ti�::� i��.� lr� it � t�� g�t �►t�'1 J.Q��iu�t or� �:ci�1v� 3�� ine c�r�t�4;��c�+�� c��c� ��u�;ir��u� �c��=;,� t�� i� �t�� a�� Ye�r�) ri�:� w�,�l a;� �f �n��:,�, out a� :�4�zle �iti� t�� l�w a t1 C� � t o r �� f1 ��? !! � i �3 �; , � .t. ;y � : � ;l „� �;� 4 � ;� �i � �; �, }� u� u j a c � n c . 4d � �u:j��e�i �r�or� �i�� iiy�i��i .le��,<:�r� ��:, t!»t i;: woul�i af��je�r rn�r� iE� :.;.:r�le i� �i�� ,�+��t:y�ly wir�t� o[ �h�� rall w�:; � r��1u��i �r� tj�i��ht to t��a� of �D�e t�eJc,� ,�rhic:i� �.� al;a��c� kt�t� �re��r�y lisi,��► U�tw��:i Ci» two ,�>roa�r�i�:;:�. +tr. �ol:��ir� ��d 0 hi� architf.�cts objected to this ; bu� agreed to gi.ve it consideratxon. Later Mr. Golds�ein contac�ed Craig Waldron requesting a t�ao week delay for the meeting wi�h the council � while they evalua�e this compromised suggestion. Tha� por+�ion oP the wall perpenclicular �o Ham�ine avenue would remain, as w�11 as tii�e pillars which form the north ena ot �he gat�way. Once khe wall is clean�d up (with acid tak3ng off �he mortar st�ins) ��zd planting is accompli.�hed, we feeZ that t�le wal.l will actu�lly be quite attr�ctivQ r�ith the vine grow�h 3ubatan�ially cov�ring the wall on �h� ea�t sidc�. 11�;��r�nt�y �h� l�dy ncxt �aor woul� p��er tor all th� w�ll �o b� car�oved nacth of �he driv�wa�, but thi� �rillr ir� ��t�a �nduly ex�os� thQ h�use �� hc��dli�hts a� �h�� turn intd th� �it� �c�m th� northb�unr� 1�na. ��e do �Qelr how��a�r. th�t rh� c�:�luc�i�rr a�� th� �a�1 t�h� nc�r�h��nly n�os� acctios�� i� h�d�h� aill i��v� �M�Q rts�l�t�ive �cttlt� o� �t�� w�ll �n�i th�r ho+�� a�r�� ho�ld c�pr�� cee�a��1� �o�u�io�� 0 � � � � � '� � 5 Xt0 iLnsl � [� A � '� I � � � f! �� x �� -'�'�� ; 1 � ��f �� i e � �� =��' � �� a � ��_.� r : � � 1 , �� ; � � � �� --.- : �^ � �R ! D � � � . tip 6� � E � g : ��r1 �; .� � � � E� �i �� F � � � � .� � '�� tt� � f i �� s;� � } �'� G ,� � � �� - 4• � � ' , ��. r/ �`� � ,�� H � � � � ,' �, � �� , � �w �'� �i �� ,�! � a L� � � �. �. �ft. ,�_.._ /. �� _ .___ _ _ pY � , �.t ,L � � �'i � �� . � �. : � � � �� es:a ��--�� '�� ' � .� � i��!�� : � K � I� 2� 3 � 4 � � � � � � � � � � GdtN1V�SOTA PLANNINC OFFi+C� �ifJE�R� �G�• U� DAHLGREH SHARO�(itel i 11!!+i!! � � b � 7 � 8 � � �' tfl �. !M � �� N !� �, t�, � 15� � a£ « �T =; i8 �, �9 =;� 24 'w' z � � t/ �► r�''��? `� �7 � �« f - �' .. .:. - � _ -. .,, __ --_ : i F _ ro� g �� v �� • la.�.-.I Y . �,�.x...�,: �--�:`. " � ,�:�._ � �� f �, �� ; �� ;' p'�, � �� t G�' �� S+� � 63 1� ��'1 � ,.� . . • � � CJ F�bruary 25, 19$8 T0: Jim Andre FROT]; Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNITdG �FFICE HOUKS, February 17, 19$8 1. Dut1we11 (483-6701) Torn Dunwell, architect, was in to present Gerald Kau�hold's lat�st proposal for the rec7evelopm�nt of the Lexington School si��. You wi11 r�call the site consis�s of 8.17 net acres (after str��t cl�dication), and was recently turned docan by the council a� a site for the Roseville post of�ice, the Rose Gallery Auction Hous�, and a neighborhood park to be sold to the city. (Appro�. 10� land d�dication). Mr. Dunwell arinounced that they now "Have no choice but to divide the southerly portion of the site into 10 single family lots." On Lexington, Eldric3g�, and Lindy. This preliminary �1at proposal includes a 10$ land c3edication surrounded bj �h� r�ar ot the proposed residential lots on the east, south, and west, and contiguous to the remaining school site �o th� north. �ae noted that oecause the c i ty had turn�d down two (2) proposals involving business zoning across the entire north enc� of the site, that i1: c7oes not � mean that solutions oEi�er than single fatnily lots on a major portion of th� site is the only alternative. There remain op�ions for dev�loping the site for well thought out rnulti-family housing, open space use, a number of institutional uses and business developments, not necessarily involving th� iull frontage on County Road B (where resic�ences ar� across the street, and imm�diately contiguous to �he west). The 10 single family lot proposal includes the continued in�erim us� o� �thE �xisting sci�ool sit� by t•iouncisvi�w Distric� 621 for s�ecial �ducation. Thus, the land use solution pro�osed in this �ubmission is not a total solution that solves � pro�alem for the �xt�nd�d ruture. ��le no�ed th�t w� doui�t that any £irst ring suburb would approv� a"�arti��l solution" otl such a relatively small site wh,Qr� compatibility �o existing uses is a signiiicant issu�. FJe not�d that �he city rias a ri.gh� ta pursu� it's int�rest iii maintaining a L�ortion oL the si�� as a part of it's ori�inal ana �:�isl:irlg park system plan, merely b�cause two developm�nt proposals were turned down involving unacce�table busin�ss land use considerations, it �loes not mean the city acivocat�s it's need or desire ;Cor th� r�t�ntior. of portions o:E this lac�c3 as a�unctional � n�iyllborh�od parlc. Obviously, the development of a por�ion of tilis land for singl� family purposes, is not the "hi.ghes� . C� � � and best use" for the property under the circumstances. It ap��ars to be a solution wher� "P�»r��y loses". What we are looking for is a solution where "�verkbody winS��• We sugges�ted that a solution involving a purchas� o� a portion of the site for par�c �urposes is a vital ingredient. Th� city has not �urned dot��n the acquisition of th� land anc� use of the portion of th� land for park purposes. Gae noted that the Park anci Recr�ation Boarc7 did, in fact, at it's January 11, 198g m��ting, adopt a r�commendation endorsing the use of portions o� the �ite (as r�commend�d in the 2nd proposal) for park purposes. t�1r. Dunwell indicated that he and his client ar� "op�n to sugyestions" . W� noted that our report �or the planning commission and council for this preliminary plat proposal and red�signation of the lancl use on the site �or single family purposes (without an appropriate park use) will be negative. G��e also reviewed with hir. Dunwell the reasons why th� propos�d park site in th� prelimi.nary plat is inadequate and inappropriate. 2. Dunw 11 (4�3-6701) Tom Dunwell also discussed wi�h us a proposal on the part of the t�Iuell�r-Bies people to extend th�ir parking facilities to the south at their funeral home site at 2130 N. Dale stre�t (Southeast c�uadrant o� Dale street and County Road F3). H�rc, they proposed to purchas� th� reair�ence contiguous to the �roperty to the south an� expand �heir parking facility oii th� lanc� �hus availabl� for �euse. We were informe�i uy L'n� s�aLf that the cit�y is con�idering purcha�e o� the t�ext contiguous house to the south, and land with it a�proxirnately 1 acre. The ci�y is also consi�lerir�g, as ��e unclersta��c] it, the �urchase oi ti�� rear of three oE �he lots, iron�ing on County Road B, �hus �illiny out� �he �ark lat�d ar�a in this south�ast�rly corn�r in a mor� r�asonable fc'1St11.0I1. Loolcing at the city's to��ogra�hical rnaps, it is obvious tnat tl�ie rear (east�rly) lot �hey ��ropos� t� purchas�, slo�es ste��ly �o th� e��st (�oward thc par�c) . ;de suggest�d, ther�fore, ��lr. Duiiwell might ask hi, clien�s i� they migh� 5e in�ere�f.ed in i3�dicating �ha� l�illsi�� to tne park. �ir. DunwCll said that h� ��ould do this. Th� 1anc� is ZOI7@C� R-1, singl� ia�tiily, but a �uneral hom� is a sp�cial use in the E;-1 distric�. Thus, the appropriate Proc�dur� t�ere �.s Cor tnem to apply L-dr a special use permit For tl�e uss oi th� land ior par�:ing. I� i;here is a concern For the contiguous house to tile souL-h (�h� one rl�e ciry �i�ay buy) special use permit, oF course, can iae 1 Sta�� not�. �he cash vs. be r�vers�d. The council has talcen a�asi�ion to accept the 1an�l, thus this po�ition woulc� have ta ,� C� C� conditioned to the use of the land for parking only, with � appro�riate screening, and thus cannot be us�d for building, ui�less it goes back into single farnily residence occupancy. It would appear then, that �his proposal may be a situation wner� "cverybody wins". 3. S�a11a (332-2561) Dennis Spalla, of rine Associates, was in 4�ith Larry Page irom Arvid �llness architects office, along with Tom Lohman from tY�� Investors 5avings Bank to discuss location of the latter in i:he fine PUD at the northeast corner oF Snelling and County Road C. The Investors Savings Bank has branches in Ridgeclale, Edina, t�iinneapolis, St. Paul, erookdale, and Highland Park. Th�y propose a two story builc�ing (70 x 128) with 9,000 sq. ft. p�r tloor oi' which the bank would t�ke 3,500 sq. ft., plus tcoo �xterior drive through lanes. The location o� rh� building is south ot the first structure in the PUD (Slumberland) . Tr�e building is slightly diL-fereilt in terrns of it's access. It is very similar �o �he original PUD as approved, but would appear �o rec�uire a revised PUp consideration, sp�cial use permit for si�e plan approval {I3- 4 district) and a�reliminary p1at. In as much as �he land is alreac3y platt��7, but witt� one lot division having occurred gor the S�.umber lan�] site, i� may be pos�ible to s�rait with the �lar until the next parcel, in �� muci� as ttais is a PUD, Th� loo�� street sy$te� as origi�al propos�d will remain a��rivate stree�. `i'hey understooc� it �r�d are � proceeding as quickly as j705S1.U1C. ThL buildin� wili be oasi�cally a11 arick wi�n �n er��pi��sis on i�'s appearance irom the Snelling 11ven�e vista, an�l oC course, it's �ntrance orientation L•o��arci the Sn�lling �v�n�ae �e�vi�ce road, (nortl7ea�t U� th� site) . 'I'i�ey �1�� alked about �11c7V1.I1c� a sign at the en�r�nce oL- th� �ervice roa�3 th�,� ��oulc� r�L on t1�� Slumperlan� �ro��rty c�ir��ti��g at�entit�n to l:l�� aank ana �lurauerland. 4•�� n�oteJ th�t le��ally r;�is is not aJ.lo:•�e�, �i�OUgh r in the case oL �his �UD a sic�n oc1 th� joini:ly us�d �ro�erty r� �h� �outhc4°�st (acro ,� irom the cn�rance ro��cl� where �here wil]. b� �z pon�ir�� area, �i�a� � w�ll de�iyned gxaunci sign mi�ht be a��propri��e. Ti�i� wou1:3 b� on �rop�r�y tha� waulr� i�e jnintl� u,��] i�y ali tize parcels iox clrair7age �urpos�sr and �.i�us c�ill iae �urround�c3 iay ��n s�ac�. 4. �l�alap (63�,--3 3F 2�) P.icharc] ;�lel�b tia��s in i��ith �on Stcncil .�ror�� S��urban Engincering, and Jay P��1aon irom 11rvi� C].],I1G55 arct�it�ctural n��ic�, �o r�viea� �r�liminary �lans ior �.he r�developrnent of tl�e olc] Owasso School site, Xou will r�call this is a 1.97 acre site on ti��hich th�� ro�aose a�a high quality �enior citizen� efficiency, �ie�i to a col�lman lounge. This �aroposal was �liscusse�i in �:�x��vious �ne��inc�s, and is a� you � recall JOIYIE:��JC�Ci� like the proj�� lo��e by th� same archi��cts in I�iinnetonka. Tl�.is unit E�atures tl�e l�rge Vic:tQrian . � � wraparound porch as you may recall. The layout is a series � oi' modul�s done in t�vo stories as oriented toward Victora.a wi�h a wallc out lower level towarc3 the east. The east side of the site is heavily wooded, and thus th� visual impact on the lak� c•�ill be con�ic7erably minimizec7 by the presence of this large mature tre� stand. � � s. hIr. ��Jebb reported that they had met with the grass lake c��at�rshed group, the chairman oi' which is also a resident on the lake. Apparently they were satisfiecl 4�ith the development idea, and set yuidelines £or the handling ot th� drainage into the a�atershec] system. Dave Janisch s�ent some tir�e with the dev�lopers reviewing the drainage solution. Tlle in�ent is to direct as much of the water as possible �ow�rc] the ;narsh so as to result in a filt�ring eFf�c� beFore tl» water hits the lake prac�ice). It would a (a commonly accepted ppear this development �roposal involviny a change in the coj-nar�hensive plan, r�zoning from P-1 to R-3, acicl v�riances to c�ensil�r and parkinq may be re�dY Cor the April meeti»g of th� planning comr�ission. A v�ri�nce �o park.�nc� ancl density has, o� cour�e, be�n an ingredient to �aci� o� rtie �reviousl citiz�ns proj�c�� in th� city oL• Roseville r��In �kh s$ case, it is antici�ared tha� no��c ot the accupant� wi11 0� c3riving auto;�io�ile�, in as mucl� as thi� l�v�l o� care, �hr�ugh each resic3� t� ivl a�r�ul�tory�or a high I�ow (4 Q-l�t�nt Joi�n Low i:; triti� Can/�L»c, � cons�ru4tion cc��ny own�d �y C.n. 1�acki�rnc�i�;�� o� ��i�o:� you will rcc�ll built �he three �iu��lex ur�rt� an t�a�: �a�t snor� oi :�1cC��ro�j� lake. ,� tizi: cU;n;�any'� �,�dr;c, lyati,��v�r, r `Sos� oi ,�ra�os� to oUxld �lj� r � �� cor��ne�rcial ar�d tt��y aoutht��c�t carncr o� 'I'!� 88 �ancl C un�y�� oa�t p��u Thi�� u�� the wa:� �►r�E�rovc� a�ri �h a v:.ar '�nce : orn� 30 tv 22 ��e� o�� thc x'�� ri�f�t pi ��ray. �t'�ir�e Gor�;�ition:� c�erc �tt�ci�ecl to Che �p,�r�val. 1. �u�j�:c� �tG. 2• �'h� tra�i� 3. Ti��l: thc �c�ui�a��nt� t� Sr��r ap��roval aL• �lr�inagc u�iliCie,, r�ce�tacle is t�o par��aet ��ill Lo �� u� on �he a� encio�e�, :�crecn ar�y roo�. r�echanic�l t�tr. L�w w�., concern�:�] a.��u� �t�e :�cre�ning o� th� ;nech�nical e�uipment. 'I'�,e auil�3ira�� has 5000 � tat�l o,� 1c1�000 s:. , � ., „ '"�. '�t. �er :Cloor, wi�h a �ai��Con � �� rh� ��ructur� i: proposed to Ue oi (�recavt concr�te ��a��;;� �o;��raC�ic�l1. �•tr. r concern��i abaut �n� co�� ex��n�in �;t�e�� ow wz�� p�rapc� �al�. enou h �� C , , � ' �anels or � � .�cr��n th� ,n�chanic�l equipm�nt �ram �ounty Ro�c� D. Cc�un�y Poad D is niyn r�lative to �l��c si�e, aecause it c�oe� over TI-1 ��, anc� t��us �o scr�en �he m�chanical e�3uipment .Cro;n this angle a p�zra�e� o� several ��et aaoulci !ae re�Iuirecl, ;,�e �uc�gesi:�d tha� in a� muc.►� as Cn� conditions w�re specific, that eYtension of the parapet is tlle method that will have to b� used. The alternai:ive is to � not have mechanical equipm�nt on the roof and put it inside th� building. Upon examining the plans, we not�d that 1,700 sy, ft. of the building is proposed to be used for storage. This is at the lower level (bas�ment). It would thus appear reasonable to solve th� problern by putting the h�ating system for such a small structure a.nside, as this can be handled to by exhausting storage space (rath�r than expend som� office space) . This appears to be a reasonable solution. The parking capacity ot the site (43 spaces), limits the amount of oF�ices that occur in the structu�e, thu5 the use o� portions of the s�ace for storage purposes shoulc3 theoretically remain a fixed condition. � � � � �� 2� 3� 4� 5 ,� ,..._� :' Q :� f f '� /) �..�1 —, �� f ��, _ B ZesS+. . r C� � � � me • s n � D� ti�0 p� E �� ° =0 � � � � F I � � � e�s - , � G , , � � � I H � �� ,. � - -� .. �� I �' � , •• � � � I r �_�^ � �l � �.:o L,��L� L� K l �Q�� I —_� �� ,.� � � � 2�� 3 �f `� � ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS 2 • �7• 8b DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 3 UBAN _ 9� _ tt -�� / �'�� . � � 17 � 18 � 19 � 20 '� � � a ^ yro A ��o� g ttt7 C z,u � E � � G ,_ a �r.r. R.i...�E� ��,..� t � � .,,,�� ...� i--ar. . .,f. . -.�.� H � � '�.,�..`?7"`�.^ .. r . �` ! 4L� _ . � y � ' �{ _ 'm- r�-.,..... �.F''� - r .�� J�� F�A�� ., � li { . �.�...._� . . [i..�+�.s. 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C$i� WC��i� �i�e. O�i��r:�ri��, �v�n �xt�n�3ix�� tt�� c�c�� l� [�e� ia�eo �� ro�� ar;3 :��C ��►c�n �ou��l ��ir� t�� aral� a�a�a� � 12 ia►�� r�oro� �� '�h� r+��r o� ��i� exi��ir�� c��e. I� �j�s��r� �H�� cPri�� l�v�ia�r��ri� ;�;��5 �� La1� ��nc�l�� i�l��: � v�r��r��c� ��al ie�t it�n . 2. �ai�n�e�� (C31-�?�[l� �'e�ei �ot�r��e� x��r�,��ia�� G��c�� u��er ��ie}� �an��y, +�,�� 3r� �� r�vi�� rt�e ;��it��lik:i�� c��' �u�� fi�n� � C�r le�;��r�� e��ir ��.��: L�r a g�� C t�� utti��vt ��rn�� c�� e�i�� it� w1��li i� c�r� t��.n�t ;�t�� c�c�rj�� i�s��i C# '�i�i:a ��c��c��,1 i� ,��rt �C tY�� 1�ar��w�;�� rr��ca�.�3 to �� 3uc��,�e� ��r T€cn�� t�rt��orarily a�r �h��► �:i�e ��P�il� �� ,ac��.► �ore �rQci�a ��lar�:� �r�r �tze r��ve,lra�r��n� o� �Y�� in� '�r�� it� �� tY» ranr��le�t earr�er �t �aur�ty �ca�ac� C-� ��,zc3 i��rtr�c�� taz�;3. `,Ptr� iE�L�rim ��velv��ra�nt on �iie ��talt��k ��r��t ;:xi�e �,r�ul� irt�l�cl� ;��r�l�► £er�cir�c� �i» ar�� r��I ��n a�adi�.ia� of � sn��ile h�r�� i:i:ie�� 'Ph��r waul� �� t�o� �aciliti� , an�l a ��ructur� or� �h�: ��ae;�terly �c��tior� a�: ��e exi�ting �i�e. Joi�n�oY� �13a r�o�eci tt�a� €��►��c�. ha:; �� o��,on t� �u� �� Acr�� ritt� tl�� thnu�ht; Ch4�� tt��y n�ay l�cate �h�:r� �erm�rient3.y. � ,•1e �uc��c�t�d �t�a�: Clre �em��arary u�� oi t1�i:� �ite woulc� anly tae a��rapriat� iC aOtflG'�Il1h�J irlor� ��:ific i� iartt�ce��n.iclg a�cl �c�van�a�cous to the city. t�1o�t �om�uur�itie� � (particularly ls� ring suburbs� frown upon temporary use�, unl�ss they have an emergency n�ed such as temporary school • expansion, et�. ��e see no reason why the city of Roseville should ol�t �or a temporary truck narking �acility. T�cl Johnson noted that on the rest o£ the site the terminal was nccupiec� by Gross Cornmon Carriers, and II 1�1ack Trans�ort. The srio� builclinc� is oc�upiecl by Rose F�'reight Lines. The oPEice i� occu�ied vy t�9ar Len D�velopm�n�, and nutle� Realty. 3. �trom (88a-�71f�1 Pel•� Sl-rom i� a lacal manager o� oudc�e� Rent a C�r and Truck, who 7ow r�ave O��1C@a in Golc3en V�l�ey (Hwy. 12 �nd I,nui�ian�) ► E�rao�ciy� C�n�er (�e�xr� leu�:or�ative :�or�), St. �'��al �U:�iverafty 5� Iia��lii��) � �•gir�n�a�ali� (��faryu�t�� anrl G�F�� ah,3 i31��r�S�,n��oe� (�9�5 �� oC 35��) � �1't�e ��oor��i��on :�ir� ��a��2�� tcu��:i;, �,�1c3 �t�� other3 �r� e�r rer�tal, `��y� �i�� ta:��eui].�� u:��ci �d �e ��o��r��r� Coc true�c�, �irh�u��P� �3�ey ia��ai�;�,�:� ti�� i��r �� r:��x�r ��e�l� c�r�. ��i-�:ru�� r� �� F�t�r,�tl��, �u� �tr�f:�i��: rig:� ��:�. p�t� ��r�c� �� ;�t t1i�� cr�ry� .: ��;c+�il�e ��:��:�an fo��1ia��ly� c��h�c �t�un :�ait ��r �:�� r��v�,�u��r�r �C tB�� ,��nt�i�,� �,i�e o� �� " �` �I �� x7 . ri�rl�,e�;w� s�rc��i��:c��8 �i :�t��! �a��l�.� ��t��, �n�Bic:��n� ,��Ni.iiel4�M.i 4ii��'M�.%ra�� v 4Ml�a ,i�}4�.5�� ieyiiSi.7 i4�� 4\+� R1Yi�44+�L7idf� ��r +�: C��;��s�a a��;� �-2 �a��:t �,��i;��;. �`��i� �l�r� �! ia�.ii�;;�� :3�� a�;:��,� ;�� ci��er�;� �u��I�� i �� 7�1��a$ i�f,��'ap�l�t`i �a ��i��51i�� s� �7.�� 1� :.i�l'�JI��1��, `�'t>+� �1C�,�#�'iE�*�j �.it� ti�� 's�J�°i��"�1 i�%! ,i"rd� Y:ki� �`.:'ei��lJ��.d>�.�+.�14� 1��' ��1'L: �:f:�S,�i1Cti:�:� �3� ��i� ��1�d`a�.�41��,� s�t`t�'. e'��' ��t�a �+��C� �,�1i� �i�ll1�:�� .�; «��r r�;�� 1��4 ;��al;� ;�� a�� a� i��rf�� C ��;��a��:� q��u��.�r��, �� "�� r��tC��r ,�:� Gai� ��u��`iQ�i:� �t�3 `1 � ik 6 ii k '6af i� i ic � � �s aT �: i i • $� Fs} fe�, � � 9 �'� k�' f � �i �kP i.I Y. �!.% �:r� � t !i� � ( � ry� �.,s !r .� 1 ! � Y � # i R €��a��t �� :a��a��;r�� ,'a�� x��:a��ri��l �;�s3�: f� �� :��. t�� SM:��i��:� 1«�;1x �:41� �� «��'�t � � � � � t�� . �� .� i0�,� �� i��r�� ;�� :�c��: ,�4� ��a:�� ;�� ,�� {� �� . a�+� :��,��*�� t� �tt�: ��-��►��:��aa��:� �� i� 1�� r �.: +��t+�� F��ca�:i�r� r-�i�,�:�� :�� r�� .��,��°�1�. `�'��:� �� r�� t�'�,��: �;� ��.'': �.��' �il�'l�` 4��;�«�� s�1�� ;��`4t� ��w��i1 i �� : � � s��: �,a��.� {,� � 1,� �� w��;� � r �;� 1 :a � � ��:� � �� ;� . `i"��y� �� +�r' ��:',i�bC: t:�i :74i�'. � a :1(.° S=`r��J t�� .�'.t1� �:5i:3iiC.l <��4��,� Lt2+� �<i�' �.�+J�"��iat.i��l� �'�C �:�tt�' i3��131t��,:3��j �:�«;��.1:t:�:��t3ifii +4,��'�:�:�z,�. `S � e�r;�� t �s i� � -�,�.�. ii �1 �G �t �:� t? � � � � 1 1 �',� �: ,� �� i � ! � �.� �, +1 �} 1 �) t +: i� ti.� � :! t1 t,I � � � �j � '� �` ii �`� t1 L•i;.��161e�t�tl ��i Z::li: �i ,a.42:�c: �e �t2i! ;l�n�1C?. <��1,��.i �:_� wiil ��' • J�! �i�� .�+.��:�� wl�:;��w� �i �71. �:C. 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It appears to be a�erFectly appropriate shoreline �3evelopmen� permit proposal. 5. �ii_r_kl anc7 ( 9 2�- 47 3�) Dave ICirtcland ot Coldwell Qanker, who is �.easing tt�e r�ew shopping centcr recently built by �he Shelarc3 �eopl�, was in ��ith ��tike Schifsky, Don ,��estor�, and Dave Calm�r�, the .l�tter Wflc� uro�ose �o be the owners ot• � ne:r billi�rc� parlor �ro��osecl t� b� t�ui1C in rhe Shelard �hoA�ing c�t�t�r. t•1r. Kir;cl��nc� ,�otec3 t1�at �.�e exis�:in� l��e holc3e�r� includ� ;•tr. i�ovi�a (2,2p� sc�. Lt.) 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L' �:a s' � t! 31 �� :1 �� t � C '�' � ;� � ; i �Y 1 �: t D � ��1 c} � � t l �. :� :� � �i � � �' � p �1 !1 tl �3 f1 c� i��«1�ar .!<1G1 �1s: .i�2C4a Ct1�1C ilt� i�`�Ct�:a�.'tll:� �:ti�lc) ±i:a�l�:1K�11��1 �`i:��`L4l".'.�i� ',�'J::Il: w:lilCi ��+t��C��;�2e �I�3. _f)i lJ�1C�:iti Y;LV�" �(��Ea't ��'1 �i��:xr �ir�:�l�: �.�{�►il�� 3:►i�L«�:� �l. ��3�� •3. "��a►r�it. "I'!�� ,�ur�-��au�;r `:� ��{�r� ic� ��:�r�; �at:c�:;►a�iE�� v ��; �i�e ;;`�ai� �:o a�.�:�r��ee a 32 vt. � G i��. ,�ri��9e uri�a��a��, i�rl��c:i� eht�r��i� �ro� �k��:ir ��;�r:�� :a �i�c :itr�:�:�. '1'ii�: �it� w�ll u� r�cloi�c� �he � :;:rLLt ��rr tizi:� �i�i��i�:��riius��i k.i�i� :�;,ari��y, ar�c� a t3riv�way oC �� 1�i:, 1+1��ty l.`..i ;ili�A�i[llliil i:OC :liGil �ltl��,� �:�:ii11}� �i0lAetii• i'�C• • Honchell has suggested previously that in as much as the house is set back only 23 ft. from the front R.O.W. line, (normally required) he would suggest tYiat a 7 ft. variance to 29 ft, may be appropriate. The Jungbauer's feel that �he drivev�ay should be leit at 32 ft., 6 in. We e:cplained tliat a variance is required to �djust th� dri•�eway width, and that they �hould ap�ly for such a variance if they so desire. They v�ere concernec� that the staff couldn't somehow approv� this ��ithout a�plying for the variance. We noted our inabil.ity to ignore the ordinance, and that a public hearing proc�ss is necessary to change the width which is universally appliecl tl�roughout trle city. . t• • y Chuck DuFrense at�d his assistant Sandy Linstroth were in to r�view a proposed plat�inq and clevelopment of a property north of �he P,oseville square sho�ping ceiiter (developed by Lincoln) which they have optione� from the S�ace Center. They �ropose th�� dedication oF a east/west stre�t through a�proximately the ce►7ter of the property. Shocan or�ginally at 60 f�. Charlie Eionchell was with us, and noted that the recent traLfic analysis oF the planned development oC t,his area called far a 1C�(� ft. R.O.t��. t�1e revi�ti•��d with them �he possiple ;aays ti�at this could n� adjusted through the site, yet �1].OWltl� adequaCe property Eor tl�e developm�nt of a � center on the southerly uortio;� of the property. Th� Uuil�ing here i, restrictec3 in i�s location k�ecause it is contiguou:; to th� north side ot a 3� ft. easement, containing a 42 in. mai.n sewer �ipe, runniny u� to 15 ��. c�eep. This location leave� a large ar�a of land qehind the center (souti�sic3e) , t�Je suggested thaC an of�ice building inight be c3�veloaed uet��,een th� �wo centera utilizing the large parking area tha�'s thus cre�tec:i by i:he �xistence of the easement. This� then, migh� raa�ce it teasible to dev�lop the l�n�l without trying to niove tne ;;ewer line, anc] yet get a good retail buildin�, for c��l�ich he 17as some us�rs already. The northerly �art ai �he pro�erty is no� proposed for J�v�1o��r,»nt at �his tin;� . ��le suyge�t, however, that retail woulcl no� �e ap�ro�ri.ate, but some use �17at would u�iliz� �he ac3vantage af' �l�c la,te view to L-h� nortii would be apPro�riatea These uses might include multi-family liousinc�, class one oi:Cice s�aac�, or �erhaps a comUination oF these wich a goocl r�s�aurant as a pos:�-ib��.i�y, Thes� w�re u. es tlla� were similar i:o thos� ��roaosed, and the original �:. an ior this area. Th�y �re tryiny �Q get tliis firsi: P:��se d� ►�lo,�ment ��roce; s�d so as to get a d�ci:�ion on the purct�ase of th� land by rnid ,�larch. lae sugg�sted fi.hat th�y �na�c� th� revisio��a to �he drawing and get them i�� in tim� for the cl�aaline tor referral to the City Council next w�ek. � 4. P��oses (829-3414 • Terry I•ioses was in with Paul Dunn from the Welsh Company, a major developer who have done a great deal of work, particularly in the south�aestern suburbs. They do manage �ome properties in Ros�ville, and have 8 million sq. it. unc��r management in the metropolitan area. They are looking at the possibilities of redeveloping the Bolstad addition, whic h is easterly of Pavilion Place. GVe talked about the concerns over access and traffic, ancl the need to keep such traffic off o� Oakcrest due to it's deleterious impact on the residential area to �he north. They noted they have some retail users for the area of major proportions, but wanted it kept confidential. �r1e note the council's policy (overwhelming majority) oi residence when single family residences area are being rec�eveloped for non-residential use. There are also concerns on this property rela�ing to drainage, as much as there are two ponding areas in the area which now are needed to handle the c�rainage as they exist. These ponding areas are the Rosedale Centers pond to thP south of this property, and the new pond constructed by the city for the two shopping centers buil� north of Rosedale (Pavilion Place and Loehman's Center). There are severe obstacles �o the redevelopment o� this lanci. They are going to consider somp oi these concerns ancl pro��ed with �ciditional analysis and eCtort. hlr. Steve North advised � that we IlOt at�.empt to review this with the council at a wor�c session, but th�t it Qe hancilec3 �hrough the hearing �rocess. � l � �E�� ;� 2 � 3. � 4, � 5 � 6 .. � ? „�I 8 � 9 'fr 10 � 11 � ; � 13 `-�s 14 i 15 � �6 � � � 2' � 3 � 4 � �� ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLAN�l�NG OFFICE HOURS Z�3/�6 DAHLGREN SHARDLOW � UBAN 1 � � , A �— ��a � �7 � �s � �9 =1 20 =� -.•� #; , `, -- -- -- - �-- ��:o � ��^. �� -�—� -- r �� _ � . +°''-. i� ��r�� ,a ti %- �� A �`` i� �-� � (�3. �� i 1 �a�. ; £��''`�- ;,! �� r �� ti° � �(�� s�.�., �000 � � � `--'� !//��aa.. y � � - ��"�,� `a;' .....++ �� / ' � .. � �, �� ;f'� �• �, � � � ��i,�: B � ~� �� #;�, � � �_ �..� , ,� � � _ r-- �` :.:: � , �" � �, � � ,� � � � 1.J�f.s'L.�U� a�'L.�i �r (f �� .,j ��__--�� '�-1— � � n � ��( ' ! r; ��. : o� �� : I , _ � L.�c� �,. ��u� ��. 4.,��r .�" � i� �� D J,. �-�----� r� �---�-� ��Lv�� ui� z� � �--=-��-�- � �. -� : �--�-- � � ....i '�7� � �� : � E �r�a � 1 ; � � � , ��g�'�, i � sua .,�.-ar.,� "- �� l �� ► i �l F -� � � J �z!�.L�i�--�A � t ; � � �i.��-� :,�:.t. �� . � ; �,�( �-�- �`�� .—� JL, .. � -- �r—,r— ��-�C� ��j ...�.� �" r! 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The house on th� northerly most lot is very close to Lovell, which currently only has 42 ft. of right of �vay. Thus, a proposal to remove this house would be helpful, as well as th� dedication of the additional 18 feet of righ� of way needed. In �he mean time, Lovell has been improved with the right of cuay that is there. An additional lfd feet. would need to be dedicated on Victoria off of this lot. The two lots togethe� ��ould produce the possibility �or a du�lex or a tri-plex d�velo�ment. The southerly most lot is indicated on the comprehensiWe �lan �s high ciensity, multi-family housing, it 1�einc� an extension of th� property currently occupied by a�artments. This ss the site oF Roseville's original trailer park, converted to a�artments about twenty years ago. t�le are going to study �urther the economics of tearing down �he house on Lovell. 2. �,`:rusinski (483-1.a0) �ahile at City i�all, Mr. Strusinski al�o cliscussed r�ith us the problem oE the large resiclence at 17p5 i�larion. This is a six bedroom home �llat we discuss�d with the owner sev�ral weeks ago. A cl�urch is locat�d to the south, and an a�artment locared to the north. The o�vners are having difficult� selling this as a single famil� hom�. The home could possibly be used as a group home, or ex�anded to a duplex or larg�r, based on the land use plan, which designates the site as high c�ensi�y, mul�i-family housing. It i� al$o f�asible, it would seem, tnat i� proper parking can be handled well, that the home coulc3 be converted to office use. tae also reviewed the criteria for hon�e occup�tiQn i�: a us�r for p��a.ces were to Iive in the hou�e, 3. �et ter (489-385ki) �ichard FCe�tler �,�as in to talk about a vacant lot abou� four • (4) lots �vest of n-2 and Rice Stree�, on the south side of B-2. He is thinking about developing the lot tor duplex purposes. 6�1e explained the City's duplex pal�.cy, our .� procedures, ancl requirements. We suggested that he review � the idea with immediate neighbors, before proceeding with the plan. 4. �herlock (439-74�4�) Bob Sherlock is with Suburban Lighting and was in to talk about the old Texaco station now converted to a Fina station at the northwest corner of Larpent�ur and Lexington. The sign company contracted in �utting up the signage has already installec] the name and logo of the Fina company on th� face of the canopy. Mr. Sherlock inquired about applying for a variance to the City's rec�uirement that there be no sign on the face of the canopy. 6Ve suggested that the solution is to simply get it ofF, and not apply for a varianc�. If this variance were granted, we in effect would have to change tl�e ordinance, which would be unEair to other stations who have conformed to this requirement for many years. Mr. Sherlock agreec] with our concerns, and said he would have them remove the sign. 5. lunkman (881-7597) Jerry Junkman is a contractor who is proposing to remodel the interior of �he Snyders drugstore at Hamline Center. This is a 10,0D0 sq. ft. store. They had ��repared tcvo concepts for handling the front face of the store, cahich is now mostly glass £•rom floor to ceiling. One concept was to � simply �ut in small loo� type shades on khe inside (and stack merchandise up against that). The other concept is to brick in the bottom por�ion of the witidow, and �.eav�.ng a window near the top for light, �ae suygest�d remodeling the caa11 with brick would be most appropr iate . t�ir . Junkman agreed and indica�ed they would apply for the pern�it on that basis. 6. Reilinc,� (�83-1941) George Reiling was in again to review a proposal to plat single family lots on the west sid� of the southerly portion oE Lake Owasso (on Victoria Avenue). He has b�en dealing with the DNR and a Corps of Cngineers for a number oF ye�rs r�garding the develo�ment regulations particular to this properry. The proposal was for nit�e buildable lots, which has now been redu�ced to s�ven buildable lots. This appears to coni'orm then, to the rec�uirements �stablish�d by the DNR and a Corps of Engineers. He proposes not to �ill any oL- the shoreline, nor crea�e the boating channel he had �reviously proposed. The DNR now opposes this idea. Reviewing this with Charlie I�onchell, and Dav� Janisch, th� 75 foot set back line would be the normal high �va�er line as relates to the City's shorelin� ardinance. Apparently, th� watershed clistrict is also insisting on the 75 ft. set back � line. It apPears that the sev�n buildable lots conform �o this requir�ment. 1�1r. R�iling, howev�r, is suggesting that with a 10 �t. dei�ication for Vic�oria right of way, that the \ J �� front yard set back might be r�duced to 2 • appear that in the case of the more shallow plat, that 5 ft. of rear lot woulcl be more tt. of front yard. He is going to finish th ap��ly for a preliminary plat. � � 5 ft. It does lots in this helpful than 5 e drawings, and 7. ��hifsky (731-3345) r7ichael Schifsky was in to inquir� about the possibility of establishing a billiard center in khe new Shelard strip ma11 on Rice street, nort!, of County Rci. B-2. He notes that a 3 person partnership would develop the billiard center, one of whom is a manu�acturer of tables. He claims that the tables are worth $4,Q0�.00 ea., and there would be 19 of them in this �acili.ty. There would be no liquor. There would be video machines and a pop machine. He claims that the persons frequenting such locations would not be a social problem, though he talks about a recluest to remain open until 4 am. in th� morr�ing. The parking needs he suggests are 25 cars, and that most of the player� �re in the 25 - 30 year age grou�. He is discu3sing a th�ee (3) year lease. Peak period use is 9��m, and later. i�Te express�d concern about t��e impact an the welfare of the shopping center, that a billiard center would nak draw its share of �r�de c�uring shopping hours. A"�ool hall" is listed �is a special u5e in the i3-2 district, which this land is zoned, thereforee he may pursue an appl�cAtion for such a special u�e pernit� fi. Ott t4$8-7472) John Ott was in a�ith Jezry t�ale�c, to discuss th� develo�ment of approx. ten (��) si�ngle �amily l�ts north of LarEaentuer, westerly o� S� . 1�lbans . E�e revi�a�ec3 the pu0��ic u�ility servic�^ with Dave Janisct�. SanitarY �ewer goc� through �he site, but wa�er shou�d b� loo�ed from L-t�e project to tl�e north (across �he �ond) and aack over to Alt� Vista Road, where services now exi�t . They discussec3 tt�� iJ0351iJllit�r of c�etting water acro�� arPentuer from St. Paul. t�ir. Jani�ch noL-ed that �his �vou�.ci nc�t �� pPropri.at�. Fie suggestec� that they might want to get soil samples beCore �roc�eding too far, bacause a��arent�ly there are baci soiJ.s on a�ortion oF �hi� �ro�erty. The land is c�e�igna�ed meclium d�nsity, ar�d tneretore ciuplexe� on th�se lot� may be a possibili�y. 9. Q'Neill f7�2-2�51� Gene 0'Neill r�presents i�lidwest 5�eci�1 S�rvices, who proposes �o establisti a development achievement CC1'1tCC for handicappe�i adult� in RosEville. Thi� Lacility is mosk sin�ilar to the Courage Center in Golc��n Val].ey. Th� operation would involv�: serving perhaps fi�ty (5f7) persons ot� site, who would be br�ught in by six (6) (bus�et�s) . St�Ff would bc sixteen persons. Total p�rking ►z�ight be t�v�n�y (20) , providiny for four (4) ui�i�Qrs. They are loakiilg for a Zocation witt� a J.ease, ancl an option �o buy. The buse� would arrive between 8:3a �0 9:15 am, and leave be�ween 3:00 anc� 3:30 pm. Thus, the �raffic do�s not ., coincidc with peak am. or pm. metropolitan traffic patterns. Midwest Special Service operates an existing building on the • east side o� S�. Paul providing services to 20� handicapped persons. At this site they do simple production tasks, which includes such gervices as packaging 3M imi�tation chrome �trip tape, whi.:h we are informed are applied to a considerable number of production automobile models toc3ay. Mr. 0'Neill inform� us they are considering locating this facility in �he old MG�1 retail store outlet, south of Fuddr+�ckers, on the east side of Snelling Avenue. E�e notes that they have discussed this proposal with the contiguous land owners, who indicate no concern with resp�ct to this land and building use proposal. This u�e is a permitted use under the B-lg district, and likely will have no �dverse impact in terms of parking c�pacity, or use �� th� prem�.ses. �he MGM retail liquor �tore was co�sidered a"non-peak" use, in rel�atior�ship to the rest�urant� located to the north and south (Fudr3ruckers anc3 the old "E3oston B�eanery" ). Thus, this use requiring limited parleing capacity may be �n a�apropri�te solution to the reuse oE the MGh1 liguQr store outlet. Mr. 0'Neill inclicates that there may be �ome additiona�l space av��.l�ble in the building for retail us�, such as a vicleo tap� store whi.ch now dccu�ies a�ortian of th� origin�l t�1Gt�t Iic�uor �tore structu�e. 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H __�—_y-- :,w s' �'�'�' ,�� i � � _y � � � •= �� K � � y � I�� 7 `\ ` rs ��`�L \ { S L ruo `,, �; ,r �_ �� ,: s �s ,r � 20 � � January 21, 1987 T0: Jim Andre FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, January 20, 1988 1� Murlowski. (688-0716) Mark Murlowski hAs submitted a dra�ing of a proposal to request the temporary use of a parcel west oF F7alnut street, somewhat south of County Raad C, for a Budget rent--�-trucic operation. Truck rental is a special use in an Inc3ustrial district, and thus, whe�h�r t�mporary or pexm�nent, �houlc3 be proce�sed as a�pecial use permit, Piurlowski did nati see us, 2�ut a conference c�ll was arrAnged with �Cr�ig, Rictt, $nd Mark. It was su�ge�ted to t►ir, Murlowski that a tempc�rary an�roval far a euc�c��t truck rentAl in Ro�eville would �eem �o make ��nse only ii tt�ere is �am� organ:i��d program ko effect � permanent solution. 'The apereti�n is currentiy in a�oomingron, a�td it woUid not be in the CiCy's inte�e�t to au�hociz� a temp�r�ry locationr unlesn there fs �ame Futur� bene�'ir to the City on a p�erm�nent basia. � On� such b��e£it might b� a totsl cedeveio�ment of th� �f�n Trap� pra��rtyv th�r� t�ae be�n c�i�cu3s�c� �rith ric, t�iurlow�ki on previou� occasions. If �h� t�uck rentgl oper�tion w�r� tA b� don� in a man�er simil�►r to �he E�ert� PenBl�e T�cuck Ge��ing n�er�kion, (246a County Road C We�t) the�n t�h�t would be pate�tially in �h� Ciry's int�res�. t�tr. f�tu�lowski no�ed that h� wauld a�t�mpt to wor�c ou� ss�m� pr�3r�n� on �hi� b�si�. Tramm i� working on �he red�v@lopment og the proper�y just we$t oF the ir►tcrseetion Qf County Road �, �nd Victocia. This is � one acre sit� where he had ak�empte� previou�ly to g�t the ownor� oE tt�a ��ar of th� lots to �he ��st, to join in a cied�lopment of � singl� family �u1 c�� sac. Tr��mr� propos�c� $ rezoning from R-1 to R-2 in the d�velopm�nt of a P�1D on th� r�ar of th� Prapert�. i►le suggested �h�t �erhaps single f�n►ily units totali�� maxint�m of �iv� may be a�propriat�. One o,f the�+e would be th� exi�ting hou��. T1�is eoncep� would b� ��m�� Q �ha� which Jir� Case� used on his property off o� Victori�, �urther to the South. Davo Jani3ch noted that in that case the �aut�lic water �nd aewer were installed, anc] m�y b� appraprfate here. The s�r�et (as � in the ca5� �f Jim �asey's) would be piivat�, t��e suggestcd th� o��ion be given to the land owners to tl�e e�st to utilize this street, when and if they wish to develop the � rear of their properties. �ae �uggested that rir. Tramm m�et with these neig}�bors to review this kind o� an approach. This would thus involve no rezoning, only the development of single tamily homes. . - .. .. ., Richard Coverdale was in to discus� our concern� regarding the use of a strip of land p�oposed �Q be left on the west �ide of his land that he proposes to sell tn the car wash operation �o the south. This car wa�h runs on LarpenCeuc Avenue and is thc st�bject at a park.ing expara�ion for �h� car wash, to b� coming up before the Planning Commi�sion at their February mQe�ing. Mr. Coverdale noted that h� intend� to keep th�� n�rrow 9tri� oF property (25 ft. wic]�) �,� a �oten�ial a�ditic�n tn �he vacant 1at to the weat. Thie� ],ot is zoned R--4 �nd it is i� �xce�s of th� 1Sa�3 sc�, ft. r�c�uire� for R-� �ievelapment {�-plexj, thu�, the additional prop�rty may not b� needed. �tr. Coverdai� inclic�ted tha�t he might b� fn+teees�ecl in puret�asing tihis le�t, �hQugh h� does not in�end �a pur�ue it �t this time. t•�� n�ak�d �hat the divi�ia►n oE th� lac�d as �ro�o�ed� could cons�i�ute a p�o�,l�r,� witl�out sc��e d��ini�ive solu�ion a 4. L��cic�. (G'�3-6��, � George t�et�� tlx�� re��r��nting R�fleville Prapec�ies, wag ir� to di�cu�� hi� pen�ing �p�p��,c�tie�n £or a�pecial u�� permit �ar � d�nc� stuc3io t�iat th�y �re t�uildi�ag ny�r�h of Cau�ty R�ac� E32, �re��rly of Prior. t�e reui��ad th�r �roce�s aa�� r�c�uir�me�t$. t�te al�o di��u�se�1 his �rQblem relating ta ��» c?��mic�l di��ribu�ti�r� o�ae�a�ion n�xt do�r to th� cinnee studioo I��r. �ctenclare no�ed tih�t k�i�ey have hir�d �ruce Ryden, th+� f+armer F'ir� P1ar�ly�11, to �dvis� them. It �pp��c� t�� n�e�es�ary im�acc�v�ment� t� th� sft�P in or�d�� ko �a�conxrn4date the ct��a�i�a� �perationE wi11 b� too ca�kly, �r�d th�t th�y wi�� lik�ly r�le�c�t� �I�� r��,or� �lsewhere. We n��c� tt��t iE ti�e chemiGal� are bro�ght in ao�c� sold wt�ole��, �nd �iic� n�t in�ralve m�xing, �,t ��ould ��pear �o b� p@rmitt�d �a a wl�oles��ing �r warehousing oP�ra�i;pn. �he �c�y h�r� i� wh��h�� or not any mixinc� acc�rs, �,nd wheth�r any o� thmt i� haz�rdo�s. I� ap�aears �hen, that the oper�tior� �rill !�e n�ov�d frda� it� pr��ea�t loc�tio», �nd i� r�locat�c3 i,n khis cf�y, will d�pend upon the n�tur� of the o�a�:r�tian, ancl the extent �o which i� i� po��ntially ha��rcious. It ��p��r� thi� car� be warked ou� by� r�utu�l agreement. . 5� 8.�� ( 3 7 �3 - a,i�,l.L � Forr�st Russell was in with Dennis 1#raderson representing th� �.'urge� �`ores, and presented a preliminaxy site plan For the �x�ansion o£ th� Target Stor� site. They �raposed 9.5 ft. � of dedication on County Road �, as �h� expansion oi the building in rtheosoutheasts cornerd through the construGtion of a new l�ading area. The existing load area on the no��h �nd of the building would be closed entirely, and that area would be landscaped. Dave Janisch revi�wed the proposal to cut the length ar�d media s�rip at State Farr� road and Count Road i3 b 5d � eontaeted the Couraty regar�ing �hi� proposal y and �th�yD�r� going to get back �o him reg�rding rt�eir �t�itud� Cc�wards �his chanye. Moving this medi�n allows for the deve�c� nen o� the loaciing are�, with sug�icienk depth to �arcavide �Q� � ramp to th� loading bays. The ha�ve � �rasti area into th� laadi�g ar��, p��,her� han o��v��he s�p��ate �s wa� origfnally �ro o�ed it sidewalk pian along County Rd. � wh3.ch is� re�ri��►�d the bu�lt by Target, at a� a��dth of �,�� r°�o��d �o b� sidewal�, coy�tiguous to tt�� •" s°� as to ne� � 5 ft. huilt tin the �.5 f�. d e� i i c a t i o n � t h� t gi� i l l be ��Ark��u�d b e g�rA�o�al. � p� r k i n g s� t b A c k w � i l l b� c�nsider�d here� h�� n�c h �� t�ae p�rkin9 AroAo�a,i be �,�►Z� in i�� IOGr��On o it will �� ocaCed 1�� k,h�n Che req�iced i5 �n � �rom th�e right o� r��y, r�riroci��lly �tyrouc�t� th� dedic�at3.o ��a t�� ddikf�n�i cight pf rr�y. ,pr�pasec3 a� � �art og �h�f r3ev�lQpn�nt , .t� The p,1an� indi��t� th�� revi�ed �rapos�l to stu�co � ��n��s) �� en�ir� exterao� o� tt�� bui3d' C�.n currenely concrc�te black o� th�e �ast, a�r�c� �ort��ide93i� Th,is will ��bs��nti�Ily imprc,v� th+� aook� �� t}�� prapert A wi17, ��a� �£ 3imilar �o ��e ne� Y. nci building. ,�� t�rc�� 'Tar�g�t i� nnw you know, th� ir��e�,t h�re is �o e��r�r� �h� T�rget stoc� into the �xi.a�fng s��Ace former�y oceu�i��i Knowl�n'�. Thi� stvrc� �1�e � ��' �ir�t T�rg�+t �tor� �n �he s�oxldi�bu�m�,s �lsosti��fr°n�y �l�e on ��q. �'t. ��1�s �i�s�s. It �s a�so on� o� t�e sr�aller s��'��s, �L� cours�. The �ar�cine� �ila �acc�e�] the 5vU ��s Per thou��nd sq� Ft., and will �� clo�e� �0 5.5, ��t�, 3�n,�;;ch re�u��t+�d th�t �h�Y Pre��re ��arelimin�ry dr�ir�a plan �� ,� p��: of �he ��,iication. i�r��'e ti�is r�t�t�ri�l �l�ng wi��i � �rit��r� �� 'heY P�'opo�ed �o tim� f�r �p�l,�c��ion for �he Marcn rn�e�ir�g o�' ntl�e� F1�,n,n . in Commia� ic�n , ��9 i3i�.1 Bixi�y, Presis��nt of Ettinger '�ransEer, wa� in with Br Sct�afer, ��d Kat Ri�:h�rdson, �d �e�kin� �o c��velop �he easr� both ot rahom �r� re�1�ors� Pw�=�1� s�uth o;� Count �d � Y mo,,ti lot oL� the ��tinger �ossi�le use of tl�e 1.ando and the n,�tur� nf �hin �o discuss. hap�ening in �he areGi th�a� might affec� th�ir �s tha� are � ��l@ sugg�5��d that the land could be deveToped ��d s��nti�,i v cor�ec�, out that th� city would be lookix�g fc� e�ficient pr mor� int�nsive u�e r�£ the lancl, kh��n whlch is norr�a;.�l Y provided in the transportation industry development. They � noted that the_� had heard stat�ments to the effect that the city is a dif::ic�.�lt area in which to do development. We assured them that �his �s not the cas�, and that the Staff has worked diligently with many devel�pers over the years to assist them to do a good job. Examples were noted where the city's economic development efforts, and the engineering stafi, were �,nstrumental �.n development occurring. They agreed �hat they would work closely with the city, and may bring prospective use�cs �o cit�r ha�.l for develo�ament conferenc�s. {. .� . . si.� Gary Nordness of Rosewood Corporation, was in with Peter Hi1g�r, architiect, also r�ith �osewood, to discuss their submissi.on �or final plat for their 5 building office complex, in the Northwest quadrant of Highway 36 a�nd 35W. Tn� �lat is simil�r to the prelim3nary plat ori.ginally propo�ed, �xcept t;.yat �he servi.ce road �re� along 35W that wa5 ant ic ip�ted t4 poss ibly be vacated, is no lorager inc3ud�d in the plat. biN Dot h�s stated tr�at they progosed not to declare this land surplus� due �o tl�� pos�ibility of the need for the additional right af way in tihe fu�ur� for the imProvemen�� to 35W in this ar��. Da�r� Ja�isch not�d th�t the plat should inG��de e�ci.s�ing �as�ments to lae � vacateci an� propo�ec3 ea��mentsr particularly �hose required for �onding fn the area� H� s�ggested th�ir cansu�.ting engineer pre�are � dr�tt of the�� proposa2� for hxs review in the near �uture. Th� dev�lo�m�nt prapt�sa�l is similar to tl�ar which was oriyi��lly approu�d, exGep� that the thre� lar4er structures which wer� �o rie eight, n:lne, and twelve starie3 high, wou].d now be r�duced ta sev�n, eight, and eleven stories high. This i.� a r��ult o� �he reduced land are�, d�e to the loss o� t1�� poten�ial l�nd to be so].d, a� Eurplus by h1N Dot. It appears this plat ��n b� proces5ed withou� ra�ct� di�Eiculty� P�orm�lly there �ould be a developmer,t agreem�nt com�].et�d a].ong with the� �inal �l�t r�cardin�, and i� wa 7 r�Qte�i zn thi� ��se due �o the n�w method o� handli�g t�x increr��nt �ayment�, this n�a�r not be �3sential. They ne�ci the platting oE the property as � m�ans of financing th� dev�lo�men�. Nozdness ��ri11 be torw�rding � letter �o ttie City re�arding �t�is issue � Thi.s �lso requir�s closing ara the �ingle family hor��s atFected, and thus ia in th� �ity°s in�erest� and that of the homeownErs involved. . : �• • Richard ta�bb is witlz the group pro��3sing ro develap th� high end quality s�nior citizens housing o o�► tt�e old awas�o � school site, ea�� oF Victo�ia, on lake Owassa. We revi�wed a prel�.min�ry site �ian� which indicatec� their ability to meet th� 75 f�. shorel.ine s�tbac4 reqtaxrement off Lake �, 1 Owasso, but involving a reduction of �he 15 ft. setback required for the parking off of Victoria. This land is � quite shallow, and it would become more shallow because a 10 ft. aedication would be required for adciitional right of way o� Vic.toria (as proposed) . The land is very shallow for devel��pment purposes. It appears, based on the plan pres��nted, that a variance of that setback would be appropriate. No other variances are proposed, except for the usual reduction, and parking sp aces for the senior citizens housing and intensity change. Additional site planning and detail will b ssionsfor d velopme t approvalr with the staff prior to submi � • 9. � �- : ��r, Tom ancl Chuck Dufresne were in with Ron Krank, and his assistant from Rorsunski, r�he sive redevelopmentr plane they reviewed an overall comp hope to effectuate involving some 77 acres of land, and potentially 6 hundrer� thousand sq. it. of building. This includes most of the area, west of the new Rosedale square center (Lincoln properties), north of Cty. Rc7. C, and easterly of Fairview Avenue. They propose housing North side of the new extension oi Lincoln Drive, new extens ion of Te ra ab e the Vc ity S The bas cl lande c;oncept plan prepare y similar to that proposed in the plan, but the plan eliminated the north south street at County C to Drive. This concept can work, although there distinct advantages in including the north sout because of its additional accessibility to Count They are going to examine this concept in greater Initial development would occur just north of the center where they have purchased land from the Spac the extension of Terrace Drive, on the and the overall uses are proposed Terrace are some h stree�. y Rd. C. detail. shopping e Center. ana to This would involve cul de sacs. include the extension through the existing They've noted this is a forty foot street, and would likely be capable of han d ling tr�helnew thoro ghfaregis�extended widening until such time as westerly to Clevelan� Avenue. The ro ert on �.he north side �f the new roadway would be p P Y proposed for two (2) office buildings overloo�ting the pond. It was noted that adciitional land here rnay be required for ponding as proposea in the comprehensive plan. The Lincoln property people have had cliscussions with all of the lancl owners affected. It appears possible that significant land can be acquired to ef�fectuate the development. The ursued some notable e lnvolvencity assistancehavTh y are going to further, and may prepare additional p� of aana ng forest ge 1 c7evelopment concepts with the inte pP Y approval, possibly as early as March, 1988. ��w� zd� � � � �I 2«! 3`-,� 4� 5;� 6`� 7 cl 8�I 9 i� 10 � I I �� 12 �� I 3 :� 14 � I, �� ,�:o � � "z� 2' � 3�� 4 � ��oo ROSEYILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OEF�CE �OURS � ��'� DAHLGREN SHARDIOW � UBAN � . . -�..... .,r- ,,�,,, / � �+�� 1�- � "' A h -" :��5' - �� ' \ ��d . \� i ` SO `�1 ...L�� erl.J s+g�.. 7pp � ' � � rn� _ .1. / � �T� /I _ _ Y\� .::Th�^_: �/ �i� / O 'y / / - _ - � � . � r � � � � ` I � �' C.Jr �.� / r -a�� .� Y: r t � �- - - - �� /�.<o- . � dd4C •- .�I II + J�� '•o / f� � .� '—� C �"'� -� .�le+ :i `�t ,�/�/ �� tiw Joo[�C� [�[�o ,�;-;�;:, y� —� r�,� ,. ;��1 : �� _ �� : : � a ��1� �r'�—�- �L : �� ; _ —�—�,� = `I L. �..s�, z � , � ..�._ ,.. i� �'� . :��_�, — �;� � - �.] -- j E � ..�� -� _ : �`� � : i r.. � � _ � � _, �a ��Q•� (� : I � �� I�� ,1,.. ` f�_ � � , . �� F ��,, "�O�L�a � �. = _�, ti r--�� €IC�� ! ..�,��.. � � - . I�f ,� . ia �• �00�� ' ��,: � . ��. � � �L�.-._-�..�, G.o �►�c� :,� : � �L_ - � . � -- - �-�� -� �- �., Joo�� ][�� . r---: � -� — � �e JO� �,- j ...... _� `�� .� � I �oQ� °� `�� O�OL�� =�= � »o ... _ � .�. : �oQ�o - � � .�a� a0��0 � ,.�, �•- J �� •I' -7 � < a... ��\rt 4 �,�Aoh •�:[ �r 19i0 ... `� ~� q J L K � � •I -„__. -%� ° ...":,•:"i � ' I ieoo ' a�� I :I -� -� '�` � �� JLJi �i � '' �L �=�, � - ' � r.— - � �� :� , � ��00000��o� l ��i -�I �� ,�s, � ¢ II �I i2 sI 13 SI 14 eI 15 �I 16 � li �I 18 � 19 �I 20 'I � c . • ' . � � January 7, 1988 T�: Jim Andre FR0�1s Howard Dahlgr�:n � SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, December 30, 1987 & January 6, �.9�$ le �anson. (484�$812) Gordon Hanson is the chairman of the long range planning committee for the Roseva.11e Lutheran Church. Cahlahan was in with Royer Mohagen (an engineer) and pastor George Weinman (senior pastor) . Bob F3ierscheicl, Park an� Recreation Director ��as also preser.te The purpose of the visit was to explor� the possibilities of the church expanding their sit� into the Citys �3ruce Russell Park area, with the church purchasing additional land to th� east for park �xpansion purposes. There arc fo�r (4) large talocks to the east, owned by Robert Hauck, Richard Houcks, and Rose Sutter. One of Richard Houcks properties has a duplex on it, whereas the other properties are occup?ed by single ",nily homes� These ideas h�ve been talked about for some �.me, although nothing specific has been done to date. � We know �hat the church expansian (principally for p�zking) may be possible in this way, if it is assured that the exchange of larad and movement of f.aciliti.es wiil not rec�uire additional city inv�stment, nor result in the reduction of park quality and/or function. The Sutter property is a Zong narr�w strip that she has been trying to sell �'or some time. Apparently, this land could be purchased at quite a reasonable price. If this property were ultimately added to the park, acc�ss to the trail system on Lexington l�venue may be possible. They report that Robert Hauck appears not to be r�ady �o sell immediat�ly, though they have been talking to hi.m on a friendly basis �or some time. It ap�ears that a�quisition of these properties or major portions thereof could result in a reasonable transfer of land and movement of the park iunctions on a successful basis, The total acquisition program, however, may take some tim�. As an initial step it would appear reasonable for the church to purchase the Sutter property. Calahan had a cheap enough price that in th� future they could either resell if th� basic concept were to be prov�n not to �>>ork . If the Robert Haucic land is added, howev�r, it would appear that that could begin th� process toward a solution. � � Planning Ofiice Hours � January 12, 1988 2. �L�bber (632-6631 ,�xt 332) Page 2 Craig Webber is witn the Niinnesota Departm�nt of Military Affairs and was in to discuss an ac�dition of an accessory building to the National Guard facility at th� old rlcCarron Sehool site. He brought in a drawing showing a proposal to construct a buiJ.ding 20 ft . by 8� ft s(1600 sq. ft .) with the back af the puilding alor�g the first bas� foul la.ne of the uall field that exists on the w�sterly side of their site. This structur� would be a steel building on a floating slab with a 12 fte ceiling. The builuing would be divided inta six compartinents, each for a military unit for gen�ral storage purposes. The building entrances (total of 6) would face the parking lot, and thus the reason for the location. We expressed our �or�cern about the locai.ion in as much as the use of the ball tieia caould be seriously impaired. Foul balls would wind up inside the fence which is pro�aos�ci to encircle the structure. 6Ve noted to that the construction o� a 6 ft. high fence with barb wire on the to�a seemed like ovezkill, cahen it mearly surrounds a building, a metal building, with locked doors. We noted that any accessory buildiny over 10�0 sq. ft. is � not ailo��erl in the F.-1 di�'trict, and �hat if they wanted to pursue the construction, thi.s building would have to p��ss through the Planning Cor►��z�is�ion �nd Council as a vari.ance to th� 1080 sq. �t. maximum. We suggest that they cQnsidered other locations on the site that would be 1�sa canspi.cuaus, and wotild �lave less del�terious impac� on the open sp�ace facility, whicl7 was a part of the agre�ment a�.lowi.ng the arrnory to tlave this site in the first place . r]r . Webber agreed �o go bacic to the drawing board to see wha� could be worked out. 3. ��hu� r (631-3F�p5) Ct�uck Schuster was in represerating he and his brother Stan, who �roposed to develop the old L.�ke Owasso school site, east of the Lakeridge nursing home, which was developed and op�ra�ed by their father, Arthur, tor many years pr�viousa They are �alking about building an elder hamestead typE residence for senior citizens on the Owasso school site, similar to that which was constructed on Highway 7, we;;�erly of County Rd . 73, in Mi.nnetonka . We talked about this proposal, and previous reports. Richard Webb, who came in with Arvid �lness (the architect) on December 6y will be the �l�veloper representing the Schusters. He will likei� be in a joint venture with the Life Insurance Company. This � housing concept is one developed jointly uy General Nlills and the Wilder Foundation, For which the prototype was the hlinll�tonka d�velopment. We review�d the procedures and � � Planning Office Hours January 12, 1988 4. 5. Page 3 requiremen�s for developmen� of the site. A two story wooden structure is propased which looks l�ke a larg e farmhouse with extensive open porches around �he struc�ure. TYie site is shallow anc� will bE made �nore shallraw by the r�quirement of a 1�1 �t. dedication along �ic�oria. This �ite has a steep bank toward the lake, and will more �han likely have a walkout expostare to the lovaer level. The development may include sixty-eight (68) unitso each of whic h is an effici.ency unit for a single person clu5ter.ed around a common livinS area� In the Minne�onka development, r�one of th� occ�pant5 have cars. This is designed for "the frail, elderly", thus, none of these folks own or operate cars. The r�nt £or th�se uni�� apparently runs around $1300.00 dollars p�r month. 6�1e stressed the careful design of the site, sa as to rninimize any massive i.mpact foz the lake, �nd that vara.ar��es may be necessary for lakeside s�tbac�C, required to b� 75 feet. They're going to prepaze preliminary site and elevation drawings with the intent oF submi�ting the development proposal at the end of January, or the end of February. We al�o emphasized tt�e importance of a neighborhood meeting to in;Eorm the neighborhood. :. �.. . Fritz Rohkal is a principal in the architectural firm oi BRW• He v�as in to discuss the possibility o� building a branch for the American National Bank somewhere in Raseville, t�7e discussed potential locations, including the Fine �lssocia�es site at Snelling and County Road C. We reviewed procedur�s ancl dev�lopment reguir�men�s, noting in particular th� status of the Fine Associat�s PUD and its components at that site. y . � - .. . . John Aiarnell and t�ieg Cleary represent the Riverside Me�i��1 Center in Minn�apolis wt�i�h coi�sists of the combination of the old St. Mary's hospital, and I'airview hosgi��l in the Riverside district in Niinneapolis. Tk�ey are investigating the possibility of additional medical care facilitx�s an th� Roseville area. Th�y have identified this sector as a potential service ax�ea, or perhaps emergency care and other �linic servic�s with ti7e int�nt oF providing the hospital care a� their facility. We reviewed development tr�nds in Roseville� population characteris�ics, and numb�rs, r�cen� and projected develo�ment. With Craig, Rick Jopke, �.nd ourselves we discussed Rosevilles str.ategic posiEion with resn�ct to Minneap�Iis and St. Paul service areas. We also reviewed sp�cYfic sites tha� might b� appropriate �or a medxcal facility, and not�d in response to th�ir inquiry an : � � � Planning Office Hours January 12, lggg 6. P�ge 4 attempt of several years ago to build a ciinic facility on th� I�ar I�ar site. We noted the location of some of the medical iacilities in the ci� "trauma" center mi ht well b��helgfulting tha� some form of the '°Ridges d�velopment" that Fa�r p ew �hosp tal�did ma lar to sit� in Buri�sville (but at a reduced scale). � their �o continue their analy�is, and They are going further developm�nts. 9et back to u� later with Joe Van Orum is a repr�sentative owns, as you know, the old Roseville �� app Industr3.es, who in to d�.scu�s the d�v�lopment Q�Bawl bunlding. Joe was easterly frontage. The building is s�tY�ac�ic13� ftgn� om the public right away, and there�'ore a placed per��ndicular to th� street�inontheir yard. n�Th@e propos� a sign � ft. x 12 ft. y �xgn at this laca�ion, ac�ording��osthe fordinance asco ��'on as large as 17S s�. �� We discussed possible locations of �he sign a5 rela��s ta the sign�ge �o the North, where variances h�ve be�n i�sued ta MacDnnalds, Ken�ucOcy Fried Chicken, and �rbys. It appeared that a sign Iocated 6 f�, from the bt�ilding would appear reasonable, wi�h tk�e sign b�jn9 g��• i.n �►idth, would result in a 16 ft. �etback from the �ublic r:'ght of way, The sign wi11 advertise two s�tor�s in the building, �r,e af �Which is �here in the form oL- a typ� of video stoXe called T1i:le Wa��" , 1/� �t. hic�h. We've revie��c� his dra ing�� nd de elo ment a�pl i�at ion , whic h he 4111I revise and bring back ta pCity Hall tomorrow morning for processing through the Plannin Commission and CouncYl. It a�pears that the xeduced size of t�i� sign conf�,ned to a singl� sign For both us�erso will be an app�o�riate soluti�n. � �^ � � -� .� ANu.� (z � ��c. � � � s � 2 � 3 � 4. � 5 � s � 7 _g1 s � s �, �o � io � �2 � �3 � ia � �s � is � �� is � is � � 20 � �f0 1 A �s B= �� C� �, � E �� G � H � I � � K � � � 2 � � 3 � 4 � �� ROSEYiLLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFlCE �iOUi�S ►�1� �/�/es DAHLGREN SHARDLOW d� UBAN ► a't~ai -�-�r .-,_..- y 10 � i I � 12 � 13 �� t�i � 15 � 16 � 17 $� 18� ry 19 � 20 � � �� , ! � � � ..�"' � ,�=o A .. ,�, B � L � rs4 — D — � = E �� F �� G — :�.� — H _ :�.o I � � J 1� ,:a �. K FI� ,.� "' L � .� �..o ' a • �� DATE: TO: M E M O R A N D U M December 11, Steve Sarkozy .;. FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUB.7ECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, December 6, 1989 1. Buelow (228-9326) John Buelow is considerin ovedrCin sJanuary 1988� at lthe �nd �of subdivision that was appr Woodlyn Avenue whi�ch is beyond (west Qf) the houses fron�ing on Woodbridge, north of Owasso Boulevard �se� map). This plat, which has been r�corded, divided the property into t�ro build�ble sin�le famiiy lots and dedicated a P�rtion tapproximately 1/3) of the praperty to the City to expand the co�tic�uous p��'k l�r�d to the west. He was inquiring as to th� regulati.ons �h�e�i°noted�the to his cons�ruc�ing a residence on th� site• Mr• pr�sence of a 10 Poot �asem�nt alarrg �he east side of th� �ite which accommodates a sanitary sewer (whiGh would be av�ilable �c� serve his home) . '�t�e concii�icans �tta�h+�d to t'he �pprov�l �� I�Q �lat in�lud�d that there b� a 12-15 �oot wide dr�v�waY an� th�at �� appraparia�� turn arou��d, subj�ct �o �i�a Fire M�rshal's ap�rov�l, �ould hAve to be provided at the h4r�� f��• «� noted, tao, the r�quiram�nt that the hom� b� 75 ��t E�rom th� high water lin� of �ho ��o� l�nd� and that dav�lopma�n� on tha sit� would b� subjoct to a sho��lin� apprca�'�'+1. Tt �Pp��r� �h�� b�aildabl� ��'�� is a�a�r�axim�tc�ly 1�5 �oot ti�ido. tr�� suc�ge�t�d �h�� ho ke�e�p �I�e cirivew�y more tl��n 5 f�c� �►«ay fram �h� �ontic��ou� �oC. lan� (5 �oot %s� � mini��r�) �nr� that t��c ho�o be oriet�t�d �� o �:eep tiic� rnsid�nt� 75 �eet o�e ma�� irom tho «�t 1�ndJe �fir. Ke�l not�d t��t the no�cm�s� l��:e lev�l of �h� �a�t l��d� is �st€alali��t��, �►� 8��i,G f�et. Mr. Jopk� c��v� ��. I�uola�r a copy af ti�� a1��Jr�t��y th�t w�s �ubm�ttQd t�i�h tha pl�sici�n e�iE h� c oo�e� tc�� pur�et��e plannia��g th� lo�zt�on af h�s r th� sit�. H� nated furth�rtin�� i� S7p �� Q�ric� for t�e ��.��, as publi�hed a.n multipl� li� g, 2 . Kru�c� ( 6� 5-9188 ) Dick Kru�� is with riiaway Si,gn CampanY and pr°P°�e� t° bu3.iri � sign for GGo�ge C. Br�n�t�� °n 2��1/2h fe�� h gh by �� fe t long�k�ut I,ake i2oad. fi� �ropo.�� wants to put it close to th� right-ai-way l�ne. �� clAims �h�� tl�e ��.te lacks visibility bec�us� o� tlz� pres�nce of tho N�P right�-o�-w�y which is contiguous tA the property which i� heaviiy weodec�, S�� s��9�s��d tk�at he m�y wish to cont�ct d�SP �nd requ�st that they c�.ear out �omc of th� wq�d�d ar�a �a� us to appr�v� the �estl�etics of the si�e in g�ncral and incr�ase its visibility. We noted, t4o, that if ta 1a�i� n�j �r �lgn �Q ��g�2un� th��'normal the City h�s frequentl� required setback, if the si�n is 1/2 of the area � in a pylon sign. It appeared from his reaction with the groun� sign approach so as to make attractive on the site and allow for a reduced small scale sign. 3. Unker (332�1241) � � normally allowed they may proceed the sign more setback wi�h a Jim Unker r�presents Kraus-Anderson D�velopment �o., who owns the shopping cEnt�r r��rtlz of the gas station, which the City recently approved For reconstruction at the far southeast corner of the City. That sit� is in the northw�st qua�rant of Rice Stre�t and Lar��n��ur Av�nue. He notes that the drugqist at the shopping center partictalarly �bjected to a driveway which connected th� service station to the shopping cent�r parking area. Thou h that dr��gist initially objected to the connection, as of the �ay of our me�ting, �he druggist chan�ed r�is mind and decided that thay would r�trier have the driveway �t a gr�at�r width so as to mak� i� more conv�nier,t fo� vehiGl�s to move from ane sit� to �h� other. We sug��t�d that the driveway was approved a� part o� a special use permit for th� ronov�tion of the stat�an and was part oF tho ��rmit for the construction of the shopping center in th� firs� plac�, an� th�t it c��as ir� the puhlic lntere�t ta have the connc�cting r7riveway avail�ble so as to not have �o go out into the public str��t to move from the s�rvice station site ta th� ghapping c�nter. �arking r��ea (or vice versa). Lookinc� at the �pprovdsi plans of the �ervice station revision, or raconstruction, w� nated that the drivQway is propos�d to be 24 faet i� wid�h. �3r. KeQI informed Mr. Unker that the 24 fo�t width is mor� th�n �clequAt4 and that wc� would objec� to making th� driv��►��► �r��teX in �,ridth. It �,�ould, ir� �act, �11oti�r less �arot�ction Lor �l�e p��rkinc� $rQis th�t �r� d�signf�t�ci �c�r th� east s%de of the convenienee 5t�re �an the service statian site), �nd woule�, an �ric�, decr��.��r �h� amount ot ��rking av�,i lable o� tM� shopping ccntcr ait�a. P1t-. Un�er, there�fore, agreed th�1t ��e wouYd loav� the r�riv�way 2� faet. i�ir. Unker al�o r�greed tt�at the ct�rbiny tt��t wa: disturbed ;n the �outheast co�neX of tihe �hogping cQn�a� sitQ (con�ciguaus to tho servi�a station sitej should !�e rebuilt, in as much as it w�s torn up ciuring con�truct�ion. t,te not;ad that detarmining that who should p�y for that imProw€m�nt �s � m�ttcr to be decided bet��r�en the two �ar�ies in�olved. Mr, Ke�l ft�rther informed t�r. Unkc:r tt��t th� stat� improv�ment praposed for laice 5tr�et �re 1ik�ly ta be th� latt�r PArt of 1990 or e�rly �art of 1�91. 4. Fi�lvor.�on (�SBi-381G) M�r�k i��lvorson �rapose:► to constxuct a improv�ment to the existing resid�nc� at 29�1 N. McCarrons. Th�is improvement would consist aE pu�ti.ng a full bas�ment under the south�rly 11 �oot � inches of �h� house wh�re there is only a crawl space. Wh�n compl�tec�, this woy�a �hen be a ti�al::out basement. The length of the flouse (p�rallel to th� lakeshore) is 30'G". A preliminary site pl�n pr�sent�d by Mr. Halvorson ir�dica�ed that pro�aer setbacics to the side, front and r�ar yard exists as the home is � now constructeda Though Mr. I-ialvorson showed the distance of the lake to be approximately 73 feet, a careful examination of the air photos, seem to indicate that the distance was closer to 90 feet. We suggested that this distance be cnecked carefully, andr that a accurate plat plan be prepared indicating the pp opriate dimensions, and that copies of the floor plans as he presented today, be included with �-,he application for a shoreline permit. It appeared that this development, as proposed, is simply improving th� basenent under the existing residence would be appropriate for posit.'tve consideration for a shoreline permit. Mr. Halvorson noted that they were thinking in terms of a possible expansion of the house to the west in the future. We suggested that the ex�aansion be included in this permit and that any significant change in grades on this side of the house should be included in the site plan as well. 5. Dunn (829-3434) Paul Dunn of the Welsh Companies was in to review a signage Program they propose to utilize in promoting their now sho�ping center development at the old eolstad Additior� (ezst oi Pavilion Place). This would con3fst ot � serfQ� of four sig�s� approximately 8'x8' to bQ pl�c�d on this �fte along tha SnQl�iny Avenue frontagQ over a perfod of time. t,�e not�d that SQctfon 14.400 allows for promotion�l signaqE up to 600 sq. �o�t by Council permit. Thc� signs, with th�ir decorative logo on fihe � top, approximately 75 sq. feet �ach ir� tot�l, and four of th�m would thus, equal 300 sq, feet. 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R SEYi l.�� -, _= _ O , . � �. j � � - . �, � � n .� fi .��' � . ..a��w��s � � t�_�", •�',.�a,�s.,'.- ._..�a� n ��5� � �ar-� I ' � �i ��. �� i.. � i�.�� F�'�� i) •�j � ��. ..- y+e��►1*c �- � . �. MWNESOTA � rtL`.�tSt� txsA : � �� I_ ' .�, _ _ .,�"� ; 'I s, -i � � �� ' �` ° � � * St�i�.p� .t� . ,� ��.. . .�, �.. ' .. � M � � .I PLANNING OFFICE HQlJ1FtS '*qsw�`�•� —' �� r� � �n � �� u� �, a� � �� :' �� . G� '� �� M � + �,,_..�.m. - . _: ,. ., .. ��`»: ��. �� { � • � • $g ��*�� ,�-�,t,r� - � . . .. -: �o� OAMLGREN SHAROzOMI 6 UBAH � � � DATE: December 5, TO: FROM: M E M O R A N D U M r ••• Stev�e Sarkozy Noward Dahlgren SUF3JECr: PLANNING OFFICE �•iOURS, November 29, 1989 1. Pl�tt t�31-232G) Mike Platt, own�r s�f Fuddruck�rs �nd Digby's, a restaurant �outh of Fuddrucke�s was in to di�cuss �he potential of the Dibgy's site. 't'ha Digby's rest�r�rant closed, anrl M�ke explained that though Digby's did better than the i�o�mer o}�erakion known as "The IBaanQry", Dic�by's �aever gdt to a p�rofi.t m�rgin that warranted its continuancQ. mhQy �rc�, tha�rafora� 1oOkin9 for an alternative user. T'hey h�v� bcsQn ta��k�ng writ� a�ports bar franchise known �s "Ch�il�n�er. ��ort� C�fa" wt�er� th�y Are loQking at a p�ot�ntial u�e of t1�Q �tiv�ture. Fi��.c� ��Cad th�st the building has about �, pp� �q. �e�t �tt�� Y1�� 7 �+��kin� �p�ca� al loc��c� �o the site, �hough, �c �.ou��. the�r� i� ��r�mmon 8CC�3£� c�a�ement and joint p4�rkin� u�Q Eo� tha c�n�i�r� �it�� ireclu�ci�ng the �aur bvildings, up �o �nd f.n�ludin� tt�� t��w��t And��son Cattl� Comp��ny restaurant. Thct �7 ��n��g r�o�c��i grQ ��hiQ�a�� 3�� herc� �ro �n �dditxon�,1 12 �p�ace� provid�d �hQ�Q tha orig�it�al drivQ throt�gh len�� were construcCcd. t�4 di�c�u��Qd �hQ i�c� t�net �h� �cat�l ��rking on tMe s�ite �� uc�d through th� use o�' �t�c� ��r��ng ordinanc� �ll��ree� �o� �h� �e��ion af ��rkir�g �nc��r� ��°incip�lly d�ayCimo ��d nic�t�� i�� u�� :on�tigrar�u� a��€ch a�� li�ci ir► tt�i� c�s� �o �1�� o� ic� i�c� 1""B��r�'"" �n�l �t» ��nt 3��uc�u� rc�t� i 1 ��or� which �+�� gin�rll�� ► ��1�4 t�iquo� ��hou��. "I'��t builclia�g i� noa� � e�r�� ,�e��. fih� ��n��a� t�� fcrrkc�� h thQ "��ne�� and ,�p��, �� 1�� n�� nc�+t a��o�k ��h�� ir� ��v�b��n�i�� i�tcraa�� in �Q��tn+� �r��l Es�tr�n�rc�� n �li� far�►e�� gb�y'� �it�. tatr. Plat� t�o+�c�� lj�� Mi� �nten+� �+�� ta in��A�ca �ca�►ting ��p�aity of t�e �i�t��'� �i�+� �ea ��p�ox#�n�+tc�ly 2�+� �alu� � lounge� �+nd b�r z��e�. n��Qd ��t�+t �� a�++� appl �c�� N� ��inan�c� �a�°mul� o� an� ��rking ��ac� �� +��y ?-�,�� s f�r th� d�ning roc��, �t�a�� 57 ��c�� l lo�s� �o� ��2 ��t�g. �� c�� r�ci� t»1 � a� t3�� cnp��ity r��xt doar, �a��N �t+�� u�l ��, �th�► ��1 ��ki�ne� r��a�d ta� �0, �t �•�auld �t�u� ��n ��r�rit +tl��-�+� �M��r� r��y �.��11 �� a��rk�r�� c��city p��k�ic�a� �� n�#�F �p�ar�� k�b�� 1��c� �r� th.�� i�c�, a�nd it it i� ��ae��ul. t��. ��l��t 4�� not z�� a� tl�� a��c� ��ting c��►��it�� n�t �� 1� �� tt�+� �c►+�an�c� �ne�/or b��. t�n �u�g�st�d �� 1�,� :��,�}; �,�� ir�X`��rn�t i�n �ir��, '�hQr� r�vi�w �h� r��ut�� a� �t ��l��a �o cU� c�rdin�r�c�, �n� th�t i�' �he G��a�Git�+ seoms in��o�� 1��t t�Q c��a� tt�Q ��a�o�od u�c�. t�Q agrea th�t nc� on� wAr�t� ��a�king prablQm on th�� .ta, �n�i p�r��c�l��ly Mr� g��,t�, �� m�ch a� h�a owri� tha �udd�u�ck�r� oparn�ion. MXo Platt not�d furth�� .hnt �ud�d�cuckors i� da�nc� fAirly �,^e11, bu� th�t a� :�Qm� �oir�� h� m�y w��h co �pn�.icie� �r� appli�atic�n fo� movir�g tt�� !��lor� ci�c� to tt�� r�duced visil�.�lity bec�usE ti�� development of this site which was formally to remain open as a public right-of-way for the future construction of an ' int�rchange. Mr. Platt further noted that he is interested in the ultimate desiqn of the remainder of the Fine property to the south, in as much as the ultimate location of the structures on the fifth lot (the parcel nearest the service road) to further affect the visibility of the Dibgy's site. We noted that we would convey that concern to the owners. That part of the site, with which he th e most concerned, is now utilized as a drainage pond (northwesterly end of the site). 2. Dunn (839-3434) Paul Dunn, project director of the expansion of Pavilion Place (for the Welsh Co.) was in to review the progress relating to the upcoming Council's actions on the final plat of the property and to review the progress of the various conditions stipulated by the Council in its approval of March 27, 1989. John Stenell, construction manager, was with Mr. Dunn. The final plat is proposed to replat the existing residential lots and public streets (that are already vacated) into a single lot. At a later point, when they have title to the Pavilion Place platted property, the two lots will be combined and the new center (including Pavilion Place) will consist of a single structure on both properties. Mr. Keel noted the difference in the section • map vs. the final plat survey and the handling of the public right-of-way for the southeast corner of the site, a triangular portion of which is in the trunk highway 36 and Snelling Avenue right-of-way. The survey notes this to be an easement, which if true, can be handled as proposed on the plat. This point will be checked further. We also discussed the handling of the public right-of-way to be released by the State to the City (west side of Snelling Avenue). We agreed the best to handle this would be as a easement to be recorded with the title by the registrar of deeds by which it would specifically note the use of the land by the applicant, subject to the ultimate need of all or portions of land for mass transit purposes. It was agreed further that a drawing illustrating the revised parking and access conditions that would exist if the right-of-way is used for mass transit, should be prepared and agreed to and made a part of the easement record. Thus, in the event the public right-of-way in question is used for mass transit, there will no question as to the revisions necessary to the parking and access plan to adapt to that condition. Mr. Dunn noted that they have prepared such a plan and that the result is the loss of a relatively insignificant 20 parking spaces in total. With respect to American Street, Mr. Dunn will have prepared the necessary legal documents givinq the three effected private property owners rights to access and use of the existing public street. This document will then be presented to the City, after � which the Council may vacate the existing American Street as a � � • public right-of-way, With respect to the 8-1/2 feet of additional right-of-wa agreed that Mr. Dunn would seek this dedication from E�uitable Life, in as much as portions of that right-of-way are ne to construct the new access off County Road B2, cessary give them a copy of the drawing that the Cit Kar1 agreed to feasibility study to serve as � Y has done in their additional right-of-way which would provider add t onalr w tion of the right and turning lane, thus, the ultimate dedicationldth for 8-1/2 feet plus additional width southeasterly of their roll be entrance, p posed With respect to the 19 conditions that went with the a r the Council, his position is as follows: pp �v�l by In the following list of the 19 items, the condition is first, after which the status is indicated immediatel typed noted in each indented paragraph: Y after as 1• That an additional access be provide� from Count by Ramsey County, as proposed. Y Road B-2 2. 3. Approved by Ramsey County and now included in plans. That approval be obtained for the use of the land for suc access from the owners of Rosedale E h ( quitable Life). That the Snelling Avenue service road shall be conve ed the City of Roseville by the State, and the Cit Yshato retain ownership, permittin Y 11 the property owner as g parking on the right-of-way by provided in the Development Agreement. Mr. Keel noted that the Cit conveyance of the right-of-wa y has not received the Mr. Keel write a letter no ingettheM ne d ntor ece ve that transfer by November lOth to this deadlines. Mr. Dunn will then meet ith tSta ee officiapSlate he has previously done, to expedite the completion o� t as land transfer. his Mr. Dunn anticipates holding a gradin February lst and a building permit ( for t he 1 tr ctures b�ot or about March lst. ) n 4• That American Street be vacated as a public ri ht-of- subject to the a g way� affected ppropriate easements and approvals of the property owners, to ensure continued use as an internal roadway. Mr. Dunn will be gettin the a earlier in this report, g ppropriate documents as noted 5• That a final drainage plan be approved by the Cit and Y the Rice Creek Watershed District relating to the diversion of drainage to the City's facilities east of Snelling Avenue. � The City is well underwa towards com letin these plans and Y p g should be done by March 1st, in time for building this spring. Mr. Keel notes that the Watershed District is in strong support of this concept, and that their formal approval can be anticipated. 6. That grading, utilities, and streets be reviewed and approved by the Engineering staff. The Engineering Department will continue to review plans as prepared and be monitoring progress throughout. 7. That final landscape plans and provisions for screening be reviewed and approved by City staff in consultation with the affected landowners. That landscaping an� a fence, not more than ten feet or less than eight feet i.z height, be provided along the north property line contiguous to the residential properties. The fence shall be built before other construction occurs. Landscape plans will be completed for review by the City prior to the issuance of the building permit. • 8. That an additional eight and one-half feet of right-of-way be dedicated for County Road B-2. As noted earlier, this 8-1/2 feet of right-of-way dedication will be required now, in as much as a portion of this right- of-way plus a little more is needed for the entrance. 9. That sidewalks be constructed on County Road B-2, and sidewalks be constructed from American Street to the new access north of County Road B-2. These walks will be shown on the site plan and constructed with the development. 10. That deliveries to the Center, snow removal, trash removal, and street sweeping be limited to the hours of 7:00 a.m. through 9:00 p.m. At the far northeast corner of the site, there may be a major supermarket. This part of the site is contiguous to commercial development, and an adjustment to the hours of delivery at the east end of the site only may be requested o� the Council at a future date. The west end (contiguous to the residential areas) would conform to this condition. � � � 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. at resolutions vacating portion ed°fo r considerat on atya Th re ar Street, and Bruce Avenue be p89 public hearing on April 24► Completed. roval of preliminary plat be subject to a alremoval That app installation, stafi approval of alaetailsties, of other engineering Preliminary p lat has been approved. be CO that further hstudy That the materials of the ramp the exterior materials of the main building, of enclosing be completed regarding the feasibility and reviewing lower portion of the Wallt he ght on tthe upper level of the the most reasonable ramp to screen adjacent residences. To be detailed on plans prior to building permit. reening walls of dumpsters and Suctede fe mat rials That sc h and constr less than ten feet hig , similar to the materials of the building• 16. 17• 18. 19. Will be conformed to permit plans. That handicap accessibility improvements be made to prcvide proper access to the theater, andicap accessibility will be accomplished and Th at h drawings. detailed in the architectural working With the That the development be con1989ct upless �changede by these plans dated December �9► � conditions. ermit plans. Conformance will be demonstrated in buildinq p d Th at there be no access to the s�e.frThat ha qatetshall�be at the northeast corner of the si en�Y �ehicles, and constructed to permit access for emerg that th e Center management be responsible For maintaining the emergency access drive. Agreed to and will be detailed in permit plans. center management provide adequat �he ePolice That shopping business hours, as approved by measures during Chief. To be detailed later for approval by the Chief of Police. an a reement between the City and the developer be That g � � U � s DATE: TO: FROM: M E M O R A N D U M November 27, 1989 Steve Sarkozy John Shardlow SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, November 15, 1989 1. Fred & Dan Commers (633-6312) Fred Commers, Dan Commers, and their architect were in to discuss the possible rezoning of the existing one story concrete block building at 1955 W. County Road B-2 from I-1 to B-4. This rezoning is consistent with the comprehensive plan. A preliminary set of plans ha►d been reviewed with the applicants at a previous Wednesday session and a number of questions and concerns had been raised at that time. Rick Jopke had sent a letter to Dan Commers which summarized all of the staff's concerns regarding their then existinq proposal. The plans that were shown and discussed today, reflect some improvement over the previous submittals, however, there were still several areas where we felt improvement could be made and we explained those to the applicants. In particular, the site is deficient in the amount of required parking by ordinance for retail use. We advised them to prova.de an analysis of the amount of space that will likely be allocated to storage use within the buildinq and to provide a proof of parking plan to illustrate where additional parking coulc� be provided at the north end of the building, in the event of a parkinq problem in the future. Their site plan also failed to provide for a sidewalk along either Prior Avenue or County Road B-2. We explained that this was an ordinance requirement and since they had an excess of paved space for their su�face parking immediately adjacent to it, and since they would ne,ad to �rovide concrete curb anyway, we suggested that they simpl; redesign the parking lot to provide the concrete curb and g�atter and the sidewalk along both street frontages. They agreed to make these changes on their site plan. The rest of our discussion centered on the exteriar building treatment f�r the proposed re�ail outlet store. Howard k�ad previously given them some direction as to the treatment of the exterior and in particular, the treatment of the back side of the building. They had a number of questions and concerns relating to the exterior utilities on the building and said that they needed more time to address this issue. We told them that we would raise these questions �n t�e planing report and discuss the types of solutions that they were evaluating and that they would be able to present their requested solution to the treatment of these areas at the December bth Planning Commission meeting. With the changes that they agreed to make, based upon our ..., .., • discussion, it would appear that they no longer need to request a variance for the parking setback, which would reduce the number � of required variances allow •them htoe consol date all dof etheir requested variance to allowed area on two pylon signs to a single pylon sign, and the request to vary from the amount of required parking. With these changes, and assuming an acceptable solution to the exterior treatment of the rear of the building, it would appear that this development could proceed. • � completed. • This work is in pro ress issuance of a building and will be completed prior to . 9 Permit. With respect to the existing residences, all have been ac and some will be moved by the owners quired, eight may be moved by two house movers. �A la st uctures aa e up to removed by January 31, 1990. There may be up to six houses available to the City to be burned for Fire Department train' purposes, Mr. Dunn is working with the Fire Marshal and Fire Chief regarding location and timin as of this time, the City can ha e� any � ofu t}�e landsca �in S that remains on the site. M r. J o p k e w i l l in form the park h a t R e c rea tion Department regarding this disposition. and It is obvious that Mr. Dunn and his proceeding, and it a people are committed to City, Count ppears that the actions on the part of the y, and Watershed District are proceeding on a timely basis for a February lst grading permit, and March lst bui p��lt' ldfng �_� � � � �J DATE: November 9, TO: FROM: Steve Sarkozy John Shardlow M E M O R A N D U M SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, November 8, 1989 1. Jim Leary (924-4601) I met with Jim L�ary, Thomas Holtz, and Mark Sims, a11 with Coldwell Banker. They explained that they had the listing Por the NCR Comten property on the raor�heast quadrant of Snelling and County Road C. According to Mr. Leary, NCR Comte�, has decided to sell this property and consolidate all of their operations on a single site in Blaine. They explain�d further that it was their intention to market th�: property to either a singl� user or, at most, three users, since th� building does not lend �tsel� to bQing leased out in �mallcr segments. Ther� were a numb�r oP questions about �h� status oP the currer�t zoning on the site and in particular, the status of �he former school prop�rty� to �i�e north, which is currently used as a� training Facility for NCR CamtQn. A�t�r rovi�wing tt�e r�cords, Rfck Jopk� and �nyselg d�termined that th@ lot was created in 1978 and th� City Councfl grented a razoning to B-i �nd a vaxiance ta all+�w the buildinq to exce�d th� height requi��mQnts c�n Februa�y 28, 1979. Th�t Coun��il �action �cas condition�d on the site b@ing d�v�loped on substat�ti.al camplience wi�h ths� ��to �i�n th�t was pXePared �nd d��ed tJ�ec�rnb�r 11, 1978. In addition to the questio�s� regerding z�oning, thQrQ wa� somo discussion �bout our opinions as to apgrvpr��o uses f�r both the L�►cr� parc�� th�t fronts on Coun�y Ro�d C, �nd tha Porm�r �ch�aol pr�p�rty to �h� nort� oi thc Camton buflcling. t�Je g�v� th�m a photocopy of the rec�ntly �pprov�d p�ans Prom Fi�� Ag�ocistes that showc�d a bAnk immecii�taly �acra�a� tha accQss e�rive to thc� wQst o� th@ 1 acre sit�e. W� told them th�t �re thought a smali profession�l office build.�n� or some �uch usc� �h�t w4uld bo compatibl� witM �he NCR oE�icc� building i.mage, �hou�d bc� sugc�Qs��d �or that 1 �cr� sito �nd t�at � ��st �ood �cast��rant, or othor sfmil�r sm�ll sc�lo retAil f�ncil�t�► would proi�ably not b� appro�ariat�. with resp�ct to tho schaol �rop��t�, wa sugg�sted �hat the ofPic� us� on tt�e site Geuld be �x��nded �nd the school p�operty �dj�c�nt to th@ ap�xtments, and single� f�m3.ly resider�ti�l n�i.ghborhaod ta th� north, caulc� bo used for p�rking, p�ovi.ded that ap�ar�opri�t� setbacks and landscaping buff�rs were pravided. If th� pro�aarty w�r� not to be dsaveloped with a cor�ti�uation o� th� o�fice Use, we suggested that a medium density, or even hi.gh�r d�n�ity residentia� project might be approprxate. Tt�ey �ask@d qu�stions �s to the possibility of o�fic� showroom typ� us�s and we �oYd them that we though� the area lacked both the access and visibility needed for those types • of uses to be successful. 2. Winther (884-6878) Doug Winther is a real estate associate with Merril Lynch Rea1 Estate and is looking for potential sites for the development of apartments in the City of Roseville. We gave Mr. Winther a copy of the comprehensive plan and circled a number of potential sites throughout the community and gave him the names of contac� �eople fo� those properties and described, in gen�r�l terms, the problems and opportunities associated �ith th�ir dedQlapmQnt. Mr. Winther explained that he w�s looki�g for sit�s for 4- 50 unit apartment buildi�gs to assist a developer who is x�locatin� to this area from North Dakota. 3. Rieger (476-0000) M�tt Rieg�r �nd a reprQs�ntativ� from Sch�ad-T�acy Sign Company wera intere�ted in �inding out additfon�� i��orr�at�on r�g�r��ng � proposed varianc� �or the iocation o� � monum�nt ��g� ga� �� L�ncoln Comp�niQ� Ro�Ad�1Q Squ�� O��c� C�nt�r, loc�tQd �n th� northwest qu�dr�n� o� �orr�c� Or�vQ and Linco�n �r�ve, brought in � rQdu�ed photo coRy o� � slt� ��n i�lu�tr��i g�� location �or a"V-sh�p�d'� monumen� sign to b@ �oc�tocl 1 fQo� �ro� both thc� �aat end r�outh �co p a r t y l i n� s. Accor d l ing ta� �ick, th�r� wa� some df scues�on with tho ��t�a ir�d�v�du�la a� 1�8C l�dQ��,�A� r8 � o��ice haurs and �hc� roe�on �or t�d��r"g �,�Q�i�q w�� t� �o�low up �rlth sr�d�tion�l intorm�tfan. briQf d3c-eu�slon th�� they ��i�l do not hAvc ��c�U �tr� � und� � su�or�y inio�a��t�cn �or tt�e� �ub c�et �' illus��tin g �� o�� l a�` 4 0 �' n� t �� a�� h�� aur� � 1��i�n� �+�r� pro�� r C y I i n Q o� L� i n c o l fl � r, i v e. ��a e hcekQd the cig�� y��p� �nd indica�c��, �lonc� wi�h a�Qv� Q w o� t h� � p� r o�,�� n�, �� t herc� w�e� no ��y th�� ou�,d be aGcura��. S�nce th€�� roposc�d �a r�que�� a vA��n�e�a �n �hc� C��y'� ��n ac�kb�ck roq�iret�Qnt�, T PQ�G111it�#t3hd�d th�k th+�y� ph��o��h �h� �ront o� ths prap�rty ��o�n Q�+� le�vc�l vir�ar �n a c�r tra��rQl �n �t�ca eub�ect RXop�a��y snd t� p1�cQ �ar�t� ��k�� on �� tatal of 1Q f�c�� b��oe �r�dcz �rhi�h wou�d �car�Q��one� w�� th� heic�h� o� tt�e� �a�opo��,� monuma�n� sie�n. �Y �o1n�r thre�uc�t� thi� �xQ�cisQ, � axp��in��i �h�� thc�y �ou�d t�ave �am+� cr�+d�bl�a intarm��ion t� p�a�Q�t ta �t�c� Al�nr��nc� Comr�i�$�on �nd City Coun�il �o� tt�cai,r con�id�ra�ion of t�e �l�,�q�d �,��i� �� tN� r�i�ibil,ity o� tt�� rg�o�� r�n. Th�y thouql�t th�t w�►� 8 c�aoc� idea �nci ��,d th�t they weuld �o�l�w up with thr�k �n��y��i� �n� rc�turn to us with th�ir �indings�. � . � � �,J � 1 DATE: TO: ��OM: M E M O� A N D U M November 3, 1989 StevQ Sarkozy Wow� rd D�h lc�z�an su�r�c�r: �t�Pa��raC o�F�c� ��ov�s, r�ovambar �, ��g� 1. Pur�ly (483-�5�13j Ct�ais� Pu��y, �co��►andcar o� �hr� i�Fcat �o��, �ra� �n �eith ��11 Ce��o ar°chit��, �aho h�� rQ�acc�d .��e n� ranc�c� c�x��n�i�n of �hQ�� f��l�t�► an� i��tc��n� �� o� �t�� one� �or � ��o,�c�c�d �t�u��u�� o �c� b�� on �t�c� t�ot�h� �t �a��in�lan� �l�o�� t�a ��t ��or�� a�� d� �hc� �x��tin� �hQc� �h� t P t�hi� ��rue�c��r ��ul� re�a�a�e ��t�r�� t�� t��,vca �n� a�ou�� d� t�u�l+� o� �hc� ��a a�� l�o �he�� o �1��s��h��cc�l�tia�n� �hc� �at��. �1� ��r��h#�� tN� ��r� e��Ic�uvu� t� �o��h �n� �.�� € ti�� v�lo��a�� o pe��fk�il ��}; ea� �ulidir�g �1�� eat•�� a�il�� ,� ��tt 1,[na ��on� t0�� n�r�6� �r�� nt� hz��a.�� I�a��r �� t �� or�� c�u�� t� le a�t �N� �� t��l �� nd �to�� thi� a�� i�� i t� � ��c� �q��, ��op�c��a A� l ��rc��! �hst ��°�l ��n�� °l�on ��i ��► ��c��c��r�� l�t� ar��g �c�th ��► �f��6��! �� p��c� �� , �1�r��t�ia��! r��1 ��tt• �rr��o�� c��t �� m� l�i ��= Q�r�. ��1 a� �N� �� i� ��' �� +� � ��i�� I� ��•�� €�� a� �h� �.�� .�h�� r�ro�a�=�, �� c��+�� +h�� r�i� ��g��t�� coa��c� ��v �o ��e��r �� i r�c� [`�r ��+� t� � �� c��x��• c�4�� o�� tN�i� ��r�t��r�. �t�� t�� h�� e�� t �c�n� � �f� �a�� tN�� a�r� �o� ��►��g�n�l �t�� F: �� ig� �`��3�h�� n�� i�� a :�� 8. �� t�� r��i th�� 6t�� r�ta��i�� t� ��Q��'�� Q��l�. � �n !El�i�.} 4�� l�.K�fi�'�t ��P� ��6A9C�6li�*�fl �LA! Ef� (6l�4f��yd'�Y �x��Y�� it+ � �. �l�a�r� �� +��•��tn� ��i� ��a Cc�� I�l� e�� td�� a#��t� �►�� q�c��.��1 �1�� a� i 1�� c�� r��►i �t �hc�� 1�. �t a��Q��d► �' �� i��►�l�! th� ��c;p�r��ien �+� ��f �y, ��f� a�a��+� �x�� p��r�� : ��i� ��r�� n� e�i� � t ��n� � � �c� r� i r�r� tli�� a�c�f�� ►�f� i ��u�� o �t�� ►�n ��i �h �lr. ��r� k�� 1�� i��m� ��r� �t�€� �� ir�� . �l�r�� tt��t a�� ak In��l � ��r��l� �t k��t�� r� � �� . �►�� ry��G�'�) ��G� �li��f2 i€3 �l�t� ��1,;�. �� r� c�� ,� � ci�r��t� r��;��iaa�� i� t or► t�t� t�ior�P� �d� �� I�r � nt�ta�� i��tm G�-�t�to Str�c�t, �� t �xtQn�i� r�o�th�� om �Sk. ' ��Q�itca t��keci �t� thQ �� k�o u� � v� r i e� t y o� m e d i��n ��t��ity t��u�� e � r�po�� i� tt��t r�i gl�t b a � c c a m r � o d A� e d o n t M 3�� i t�. �'ad�y+ Mr� eusse brought wfth him Mr. Ral�h �arr, a realtor and doveloper, and Ed Am�ro and Roy t�fastman, both of the North Ramsay 500 Lions � Club. Mr. D�rr notad their in�ent to explaro tiha possibility of b�ilding a structur� on tho �uss� property which would a�com�oda�e a l�rge E3ingo F1�11 �lus An r�ddii�onal N�11 for asgemhly pt�rpa�c�� to t�Q lc��d l�y thQ tJor�h ��4U l�ion� Cl�b, th� D� CQntar �nd the tt�m�c�y Caunty F�um�nc� Society. ��'t�o�e char�i�.IQs wauld op�r�tQ �inc�o ��nd ��1� ��b g��a�nt�lin�, t�to a�z�s�on� por nigNt, � �i�h�� c�r �+��;. 1��°� sau�c��€��Qd eh�� ueh �n apt��tiar► �ec��fng bu�in�� zcnin� would �t� I�l�hl� ci�►r��iu� in �hig ��ea �+hc�cQ ��►� �I��► ha� �I�€�ic�n��acl �ca�id�nti�l u�� onl�. �'he l�nd �,� ��rroun�i�ng on thc� e�.��b �r�r� �h� n��h !�� nc�� ily r��fc��n�i.�l ��1 �u�N in��n�c� ��r��re��i �� +��1d ��Fy�r�� i�� g��on�iy ��►po��. I+t ar�� i�o n+��! 1��+ ��. ia��l +�t��►+� t�� a�d��n ��p� ln t.�►r��n��s�� provid�� o� � ��ht t�� i�h� ��n �� a��Ei� �� n��+ +�o �hi� �i��. r�11 ��1 +�t�� +��otc��on ��u�r� �a �i�fi`�i�� o� � �u€�� d��t��. o�� e�� M �h�t� I� a�oula� �� nat� �� a�� a ��i�� +��•��c�rt raC t�� A� �� h� �u�� +�y�. �. ��€�� _��=�� Ot�n �� 1 ae � tN �i�'�'� �rt�o !�_�� t� � ar �� c� � a�� y� ��+� ��,� � �� c��t�� l�f�� .1� �� t�� N� t�� '� �� £�� ►��e �� or�� , �� bR��1 ��`��. i�� ,�� 3�� w� �� ;�� ►�� ' ��a ��°�:c��4�� +� �� +�� j��a=�� ar� ��. � �� i�i�� i�� a�+�:= ��°��.�. �� t��.k��a�� i �i�� 1�� a�� 4�:� +c�r�� h� ��e��i�� .'.�p �r�'� �� +� i�«�� 8��v� a,•��8� �+� �� ,g��a ��t�=. ��o�� il�! �t�� ro�a°�� 0�� l��n� a�� r��a�� 1��t ��a �1�� _�� t �� 1�� +�� l��r�� +�� l��►�� a�, t�� 1 th�� h�� 1� �� ar��t� ��e� �a��r� ��t� �� +� ��r��3 +�� rt�� r�� n��y� �� op��. �� eto�� tt��y� �t�� t� ��yr�c� �� ►� t��+�t� �� , �b�� d��+�� 4�-�k�N�'6(.lf� h:��'hK �9l7M ��. �66�{ifS�ilR �� 9Ch'�'h�.k �R�t� M7F� �R,� e#'�� R8�"MiY�� 111 *i • ��1��1��C� ��`�'�-'1�� ;t��a��e�� a�� u�,� �i�n�c�� f�� 1�� +� :�� i��1��D t�gk �1�� h�ll�c� C��a��r►� �E�a�� +� �t ��_�� t�� r��. "�'�� y�� b��l �h� ��M��n ��+�� h�� °�� t�� c��r��, c��p��l a��t�i�i� ��yk�� u� �� i�� i��4• ��Q ��.'�� '�+ �� 3��#1.{ �ii�� i��i4� ��p� �aan��p��rq �'1r��r ��a �R�� rhi�N i� a�� et�� n�� c�� e�� .b�� +��1� o� �tr� l��i��.in�. 't"ti�€� �� g�� r��l��r�� i�r��, �;� �g �*ti.��}� �� +�t��Q ir��r��3�� h� ��n s�� ut��t��r+��liy �n�� h�n l�� . f�e��, +�� r��1 �1�� h�}� ��ou��1 h�� xee��i�� th� a�c�rr.►� 1 ��n �� o !�� 1Q0 ��. f�et �� +�. �il��s ��ar��c� ti��t tt�� igr� ��Qu�� k�� lju�t�� t�in�l� �n� l�uil� «�1� t��k �r.em � th� 30 �o�� rac�+a��r��r►t €r� �nci��a� orr �t�e� e��i�rAl ��o �lz�t�. � 5. Waldron Craig Waldron and Rick Jop�e reviewed with us the application of the park d�dic�tion ordinance to the Fine Property site at the north�ast c�rnar oF Snelling and County Road C. The ordinance roquir�s 5$ dedication (or m�ney in lieu of) for commercial dev�lonmont where � preliminary plat or a planned unit davolopmQnt occurrQd. In as much a� � planned unit development h�s a�read� oecurred for th� two pr�viou� sites, and w� are cu�rently conS�dQr�n� an ��Qn�e� �UD Ear �h� remaining thr�e �itQs, �nd bo��u�� thQy �� now applying for a prQlimin�ry Plat Cor th� �n�i�� r�� uggas�ed �h�t ap��ie�tion of the ordinsnc� to �h� �hr�� r��ining @e��ls wo�id bQ a��ropriate. ��c. t��ld�on na�c�d �h�t thQ ir�nr� �� orig�n�l �wo sitos o�cupiQd �n� ��prav�d �y �i�l� c��q��l �2,��1 �q. ��at. '�h� �� for lots 3, �� €��d � (t�c�� r��f�� n� �qu�� ?�?,�� . �Qeta It �au1d �c►em ut�t�Qe �h� �i��u��t�n�� h�� i�`��ion o� tli� or�c�in�n�� o th� �+�� n � r�c� �t� �� d�� a�4�u � � i�e� a��n��l c , � [ �ro �a��nd�aQn� to thc� ��a ��t �r�� [�� Ca+t� f �to �s�ag�l � +�t�c� �n� t � � �r��rt� � a�� Qr��Q�tad, ci��rr no ��die��I�n a�ca��d 1�e� ��qu��9a 1B��t.��, �h� r��►ining �� t•r� noF�e ��ar la►r��i �tn�! �r� �u��e�� t� �n ��end�d �UD, �n� � �� t= �� n�� ►�o��r��►. '�"1��x, it �+aul� �Qc� ��r��r��ri�l� �+� c��s +�N� ��I��►c��r�� o �t�� l��t �l�r�� a�ls �+u�•��r��l� �oro�� r��I�I�r��i�n. �. %tm+��co�� a�� ' ,��: ��a.•��e�� t' ��►� ��'�� a�� in �.� �� r�th �� +�he � �� '�� h� ��! �t� i � � � � � ��u�c�a�� . "9��y^ ��sa�� •�� r �� f�u��i�� +�� a�ir��l� as�� r��,��ci �� t o�� r� #, n � � I� � � � �� a i��; �t�� p��aar� � ��•�� r �h� �ii��1�� '�hl��t`. ��l�� '�� €IC ��1�� ,, �� 31 ��IEflC� ��'ii �1� +�l�� r�� 9�� o� +�h� ��x�r�� i�� . '�h�€� �� a•�� e�� n ��_� �� t�� R��f��l ��r�i . r"� ��a��r� �� t�+� �� +�t=� �� '+�� t� �e��raa�� re� �'i�d�� €��+��1�� +�M{�� ti��=� �h� � 1 �� ►i�� t�� c�t��r��# � f �� tr�f �wo 6�3�1�h� ia� �� i�r1� ��!�� t�� r. E�� 1�� re� �� a�°��. �� • c��r�� . �b�� '1� � � 1 �' � R�;��rc�� , 'Tt�e��, �i�� #��r�a�i �ir�� n �� o�� a�k��: ��. ��r. �art�� t�� f�� E�� •�+��f�i�� 1�� z-+��a�cr.c� ��c��c,�a ��ti �i�� f�N��i�� n��+� ��1�� o� �6�� h��t�� ro��li� ��a�r�d �G» �1�� o� �t�� CO�� "� �u�r��a�+��, ��e ��a��t�� th�t �� do 1��M. w�n�i �� i� �� +�t�� i'� l� �l�� .�� r►� �+��,h�� p�rai�ic�r� ��1t r�r?�� t�i;-� �a��t�� ►��v��1 ��,��t• �rc��:��a �, C�1��:�a�t (G��=�1�� eg C��l�ca�� f'�om �t�� 4��1��n ��ui�a�Q�� Com��i��r �r�� in to ��qu�:�t �?�k•mis�ion ta rc�ulaces �� iinoar �o�t ai r�reca�� parking lo� e��-�ain� �h�t e�r�� i�� l�d in 1�7� �, �e �a�� k�� r�c�ui�emc�r�ts � �a� th� ��ld�tion ��a��ov�al th��t occurx��d �t th�t tima. 'I"t��}� found tt»t th� pxQcB�t curt��ng w�a d�tQrior�ting r�nd tlzc�y �aro�os� to � . � replace it with the poured in place concrete curb. Mr. Kee:l and � Mr. Jopke concurred that the replacement and improvement of the curbing did not trigger additional parking lot requi'rements. They noted that in the process of building the curb, they would do some minor repair to the parking lot as it exists. � � ac� A � B ue C �,�e D �� E c�s F cs4s G cus H n�v � [oK J iuc K � � C+__� — Roseville , Minnesota r� o ,000 z000 �� 10 � �� 2 � � i3 �� ia �( �5 :; is � �7 s� �� y � �� =i � ��' �� ml 1B 1/4 1/2 � Q • • �� ` 1 - - - .. .., _. e. a o� - " - - - - - :I .... 41 V � • � DATE: TO: FROM: November 1, Steve Sarkozy M E M O R A N D U M .;. Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, October 25, 1989 1. Krueger (332-3071) Bill Krueger is a national bank examiner with the comptroller of the currency, administrator of the national banks with offices in Minneapolis. He visited with us to discuss development trends in Roseville as part of his mission to check out the accuracy of a recent bank charter application for a new national bank in Roseville. We discussed past, present, and future developments in Roseville, market conditions, occupancy and growth rates, reta�.l development, industrial and business tax base, population and housing trends, market base, employment trends, and �opulation base. We went on to review development projects and general trends, and as it relates to other competing communities in the market. Karl Keel and Rick Jopke added statistics and development data including some written materials ior Mr. Krueger's use. Mr. Krueger was particularly interested in the City's AA1 bond rating with Moody's. 2. Antinozzi (788-3187) Dorothy Antinozzi was in with her daughter, Mary Jo, to discuss recent developments occurring on the industrial property contiguous to their property on the east for which Morgan Development Company is currently applying for a change in the conditions that were applied to a variance to the floor ratio issue back in 1978. This is the site for which one of the Morship partners is Leo Hodroff, the mortician. She express�d concern about their having proceeded with their cievelopment without discussing things with the Antinozzi's. She expressed cancern about the new berm that was built on the property contiguous, and Mr. Keel suggested that it would not create a drainage problem ac� she felt it might, and that the presence of the berm would be an asset at such point in time she and her daughter's property are ultimately developed. Their properties are fc�r sale. We discussed the development potential as it relates to the indication ont he compr�hensive plan for multi-family housing, and gave her some guidelines as to its value based on density allowed under the Roseville zoning ordinance. She indicates that they have now filed papers to change the County's evaluation on tne vacant lot (owned by her daughter Beatrice) which has been valued based on industrial zoning by the ^ounty for a number of years. We had suggested td Ms. Antinozzi, on previous visits, .,. that she get thes ndtthe vacanttlot bis avalu d foratax purposes industrial values a • at $75,000. This is far more than it is worth. Ms. Antinozzi went on to note that she is not concerned about the new grading or the fact that they took out the trees. We suggested that the Planning Commission and Council may requ�.re a new landscaping plan as a condition to approval of the application now before the City, and that if that is left to staff approval, that she would be informed prior to such approval being given. She concludes by suggesting that she is not concerned with the change in the developm�.nt plan, but that she is concerned about the way in which she was r,ot informed. We suggested that she attend the Planning Commissic�n public hearing and offer her comments there. Between her property and that of her daughters, there is total of 1.97 acres which could accommodate a 33 unit apartment house according to normal R-3A density. 3. Dunn (829-3434) Paul Dunn was in to review progress on the Welsh Companies development of the old Bolstead addition (22 houses) as an addition to the existing Pavilion Place. He notes that the underlying owners of Pavilion Place have until January to pay up on the mortgage and reclaim the property. They are continuing to negotiate leases and are near achieving success in si�g nn g a Wplan the three major anchors. Mr. Keel showed Mr. • received by the State to turn over to the City a strip of right- of-way 30 feet in width along the east side of the property. We noted that if that land is to be retained for ultimate transit purposes, an adjustment in the site plan will be necessary if the transit is actually to be built on wha� is supposed to be a need for 60 feet in width on the west side of Snelling. We discussed ways in which this could be done wi.th the concept that the lanei would not be vacatec� buL that interim use could be made of the property ior pa--king purposes. The State's plan indicated the termination oi th� right-of-way turn back in the south end somewhat north of where it perhaps should be. Mr. Keel is going to check out the configura�tion of this turn back boundary. W� �greed that any use of the land could be t�andled in the d�velopment and th�t a formal easement would not be necessary. Mr. Dunn noted that the pond o�ha�e h qs lstudyn of �the� pondi g�is be �illed. Mr. Keel noted p�roceeding through the ef�'orts of a consultant. We discuss potential assessments as it relates to previous drainage M� °�Dunn whi.ch will be carefully evaluated by the City staif. noted that the two effected land owners are in agreement with the vacation of Americ�n Street and that would be processed by petition aftez the filing of the fi.nal plat. It is now furtY�er not�d that they have substantial funding in the project having paid 2-3 times Lh.� normal value for the residences. He further noted that they have the backing of AEW who are the underlying � mortgage holder of the site. He will continue to monitor with the staff progress as it is made towards ultimate development of the site. i � � � � I � 2 a 3� 4� 5 � N � � � 7�g� 8 � 9, � i0 �:; II � `2 x, 13 � I4 �S 15 � 16 '9 !7 � !8 z !9 y 20 '1 ht� �J .•�I / ! � A • Q . f j '� i t � � � �! 8 '' � � � M C ) � '' - � : � D = Q .::� i ,�� r , i^ � � , t° �aC F � �� t � �, G .' O " : � usn .I • _ .. � - H �� .� � Q n�v —' �-- --- �� i �� .L� -� ��p � C...� � � t � - . ��-� _� -�,[�QD -�- �, ,, o �o i' �Q�(� _ < < _ K � • �� ,' y��,� � � � � 2� 3� 4� 5� 6� 7 Planning �genda ltems City Planning Commission Roseville, Minnesota , f t 0 1000 2000 � ��e � ml 1/8 � � 1/2 . - ::_� _ :� Ci � S� j 10 �` I! � 12 � 13 �g 14 � IS :� !6 3� I7 �� . Igr # �9 � ^2p � �.� ��C'.�'�� Y)O ` � Q �� B i,n � C L�l�i _ p = r�-s = E �� i F �' cmo G _� ' H _ :.. � , f,�0 . ue � K uoa :� ..w l � DATE: October 24, TO: FROM: Steve Sarkozy M E M O R A N D U M .;. Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, October 18, 1989 1. Commers (633-6312) Danny Commers was in with his brother Fred and John Newell, an architect who is pre�aring some pr�liminary plans for the conversion of their office/warehouse building at the northwest corner of County Road B2 and Prior to a shopping center. Mr. Commers have a potential large area lease for furniture store and other uses wherein they propose in the relatively near future to rezone the entire land to 8-4. You will recall that a port�on of the land was rezoned and occupied by an interiors furnishing store. We discussed various options for remodeling the exterior facades including canopies, lighting, sigr� bar�ds, entrance details, sidewalk, and parking arrangements. Mr. Newell �iad prepareci various optio�al exterior �leva�ions � based on last week discussions. He did no�, however, draw the one we had agreed might be the best with a attached sloping standing rib metaY roof sect3on (overhang on the sidewalk) with a t�anslucent band recessed under that canopy for signaqe. This offer�d the advantage of protection for tne walkers (on the sidewalk) offer�.ng a s�rong continuity section in the form of the standing rib metal roof and a protected and well �it signage area bc�low that wou�d be back lit and would light th� wallc and con�iguous c�all ar�a as well. Mr. Commers was concernad about the expansive caring similar materials and datails �round all �'our sides of the buildinq. We suggest�d that they might do th� improvements in stages as th� nQr�herly end is l�ased at � later date, b�xt improving the west side of the buf ldinq which is no�� a typical rc�ar end of a warehouso structure. They were going to consider their options, keeping in mind the four sicie treatment concept. � When they proceed, action proposed will lik�ly include: rezoning froan z-1 t� B-4, variance to side yard setback for the parking, and parking capacity variance. Thes� actions may be time for the Deaember m�eting of the Planning Commission. 2. Donlan (645-9389) Mary Jo Donlan is an administrator with St. Rose of Lima Churct�, who was in with Father Patrick Ryan and later in the s��sion, with Tony Kieger, a blacktop contr�ctor who proposes to build a parking lot for them to be located generally in the front lawn of � the school. The church folks have been talking with the County, our Engineering and Building Department for the last several months regarding the building of a drop off along Hamline Avenue (when Hamline Avenue is improved) in front of the church, and the building of the proposed parking lot in front of the school. They presented a preliminary layout of the parking lot which apparently for the first time (as of October 16) included a dimension from the proposed west edge of the parking lot to the right-of-way of Hamline Avenue. We explained the City�s policy adopted in 1979, which statQs that if a variance is requested that would impact the location of a future right-of-way (after dedication occurs) then the dedication has to occur along with the issuance of the variance. They expressed surprise at this so we explained to them the historical background to the old four rod (�6 foot County Road system on the section and mid section line) and the concept of developers, builders, major building owner/developers (including churches) of dedicating this additional right-of-way as part of their fa�r share of contributing to the thoroughfare system. Father Ryan noted that t�ey would like to be paid for this riqht-of-w�y. We sugqested in view of the fact tha� churchss don'� pay taxes at all, and that m��t al1 churches are locat�d and are supported by the local thoroughfare system, that isn't fair to require other �Ax pay�rs to buy this addi�ian�l right-of-way, In any case, we not�d that the staff cannot issue a permit in violation o� th� officielly adopted policy as of 1979Q WQ gav� them a c�py of that � resolutio�, and a copy of the map which d�lin�ates th� Ramsey County thoroughfars system and roadway with policy. In th� case oP Hamline Avenue, the future roadway is 8G feet and along much of the right-of-way this additional 10 feet hms baen d�dicat�d on �oth sidas. It h�s not, howaver, bQ�n dodicated �lonq th� frontage con�iguous to thQ St. Rose of Lim� C'hurch prop�rty, TMey ques�ioned how they might ba �bl� to proceed immedi�t�ly. Mrs Keel e�p�ain�d th�t one pos�ibility wou�d be ta go to the Gouncil, apply �or th� variancQ and no�Q th�t they intend to proce�� wit� th� r3sk that the vari�nco w�il bQ a�proved. W� no��d tha� thQre migk�t be som� risk in ��ct hera�, in �� much as we hav� h�ard �rom som� n�igt�laor� in thQ ar�a (and church mennbers) who indicate the�ir strong opp�asition to building g �aarking lo� on the Pront lawn oP tM� school. WQ aiso sugg�sted tha� they might �educe th� wic�th a� the p�rking ar�� o �s to no� raquire � vari�nce, in which cAso, we couad proc��dl with a P�rmit imm�diately. They could th�n app�y for � v�ri�nc� to no� requir� a concc�tb curb if th�y think they p�oposo �o A�k Por �hQ vari�nc:e l�tor. In the end, eve�y►one involv�d p�rted �miably wi��h mu+;ual grati�ude expr�ss�d for tho time taken to meQt, �n� th� clearing of the air relating to what can and cannot bo dono. Th� bottom lir�� here is, that iE thc� ��n faot dodication is m�da, the pa�rkinq lot as propased would bQ 7 Peet from the r3��-Q�_ way. � 3. Curiskis Jures Curiskis, an architect, was in with Dan and Fred Commers to � review options that he had prepared for the handling of the facades of the industrial building at the northwest corner of County Road 82 and Prior for conversion of t�e structure to retail use. Hi� concept was to leave the sc�are panels of brick that are now highlighted in black on this building (and the two other buildings to the west) and bring a strut at 45 degrees off the wall between these panels dawn to a flat roof with a facia about 4 feet deep which would become the �ign band. We suggested that this might be a method of util�zing somQ of t�e existing design features of the building, but this flat roof wauld fill up with snow and would l�kely be a maintenanc� problem, a�d would be les$ deairable �hgn a pftchod roo� which might provide t�e unity t� tio the build�ng together. Th�y suggested th�t �he square panfll �ffec� could be reproducod on tha other �ides og th� b�ilding (the �e�t and north) by painting th� �xisting concret� blo�k. W� suggagt�d if this d��fgn conc�pt is use�, that the squ�re panels shQu�d be c�nstruct�d og a m�t�rial �o be atteched to the building to give �he P�n�l� sa�e d��th. This would give � far bettar qualit� a�p��ranc� �athar �h�n paintQd concreta block. �r. Commers noted that the sy�to� �ropo��d her� wou�d co�� about the sama a� tha one wa had �iscu�sod in the �pr�irig inwolvfng the �itichQd roaf and trans�ucQn� conc��t. �Q �u�g�st�d th�t th� pitch�d roo! wiZl d� �ar �esi�r tn �aintain, and �iil li�a�y glve � a bQttar illusion o� quelit� and i� the co�t� �ro tha s�me, th�y �hould ��riou$ly consi�or that op�io�. Th�y ��Q �ain� �o �ro�Qod to c�nsid�x v�rious mathods, k��ing �� in� �t�� City"� r�quire��nt tha� th� �tructuro b� similAr�y �ini�hod on all �ouc sidaa+ and w�th thQ consi�t�nt ma�ari�l�. 4. �ta�� o mQt wi�h Saction Ghiaf Pro� th� City, in�lv�ing St�va Mcr�N �nd Ron �oor�� to r�vi�w ��a oE t�� c�n�o��s Por up�r�df�q p�r�prm�ncQ s�and�rds �or davQlopma�t aa ra��ir�d in �h� �onin� ordinenc�d WQ pAs�Qd out � draft copy o� � tQxt w��h ��an�ic��, cavering �ho �oliowf�g gubjact�: Building �ocur�t� ��sn�ards Parki�� l�t an� p�rking r�mp 1�gM�ing ��gnda�� Crit�ria rar build�ng oxp�n�ion Criteria far dodicAt�on o� right-of-�ay �� reviewQd thase soparatoly with g��al�� th� �oll��in� ��a��i 1� OFficer Maone� wi�i look forwaxd a� th� securi�y stand�rds recom�ondQd by the Stete, wliich Stat� officials indicate havQ no� �e�n �dopt�d by �n� commu�ity in Minn�sota �s of this date. �e will Gh�ck � with some builders and the Stgto of�ici�ls as to the 0 status of such regulations in other parts of the � country, and seek more information regarding the costs of upgrading locking systems, construction of door jams, windows, and other d�vices rela�ing fio the preven,tion of burglaries, largely through cietails oE door and window canstruction. � 2. Lighting standards as recommended by OPficer Maonay ar►d Chi�f Zelinsky agreed to be appropriate bas�d on the work of a"blue r�bbon" committee appoint�d by the qovernor s�veral years �go. 3. Paxking lot i�rpro�eements would ba rc��omme�ciQd as sugq�ast�d in Stave Gat�in's mr��ao o� Sa�ptember w�th a passible rede�inftion oF a point at which park�ng lo� construction con�ormanc� would bo z�equf r�d whcarr � �arking Zot is expandod. �. C�its�ri.e gor u�r�ding parkit�g lots �nd bui�d�i�� stand�rd� ta ord�n�ncQ roquirc�mnn�s a�ou�d ba raq�i�rQd �� uch Qxpansion e�¢ceada 1�D�. At ��, t�at��. coa�p� ianca would bo raqu��ad, ��d �aro�sortionat� i�a�rovs�me�n�� ould Ibcr �Qquir�cl in l�ct�caa�n. �t a�� agrc�r�c� tf�� thi� �ight �ork wQll i� ��p�c�� u�e� ps�rmit r��c� r�qu�re�d �or ��ta plan ��p�av�r� �ar �li ��nc�� rh�rc�a8 �Q no� rc�qu�r� s��h � p��Q�� o� �hc� �e�s�r �aa�Q�+ incl�ding E�=1E3, �e�, �nc3 t3=f�. �p�Q %uf�dln��g d+�psrt��t arili do fu�rth��c �n�l��,t� �� a �h4 +��a�Qnt t�► �wt��h arc�uld incrQ��e �Na nc�c� �o� B�r�� u�� pe��t �roco��a�� It r�� trocatQ�d tha� �a�ny a� �h� r�cia��3c��taean� p��eel� to aah�ch tk�e �it�t �� ow i��►olvQd, f�c�c�u�nt�y requ�rcas a a�ri�ar►c�, ��a�ci�1 u�a p�r�alt� ar �in �or�c� ea�gc��, ��r�inq �h�t �tho �e�u�l incr��sc� �.n ��plie�►�I�v�� ht r�o� t�e� a�gn��e��. Ir� arry c��re�, �� 3� it� t�� Int�r�� o upr��a�� th� �aa�� y� �� dlc��c�le�paac�r��, pe�°h�� thi� rav�Q r�g��Civ� p�� o� r�a�u�rinc� � ��e��i�l ��s� p�a-�it �gt� �i�t� p18n ��cav�� e�n b� ��rapri�t�c�ly� ��plic�c� t� �►�1 �0�8�. �s ��e�ieatlorr r��ta�li�h�d the +Cour��i�l c�� ris�h�-o�=+��r �n thQ ��79 �ol,icy �t �h�t �im�s �aU�c3 o�eu� �� w�$ �Q�o�uk�an �clo��d t�y �tavis�ion� Co t��e �oncQ�ta� �ill �c� �arcaparc+d z�nd �ui�mit�Q� to tf�� P�annin�g CQr�mi��a� ��r it� N�w�mb�r m��inq. �t �r�g �l�o �uggQst��l ar�d g0nc��r�lly a�g�ra�d u�or� thra� pczrh�p� � r�vi�w n� �h��Q cancc�pt� �i�h the� ��nning Conam��,on A� ��a�cial mr�Qt�ng mic�h� �aQ a�prapt�.a�cs in �� mucM s:� �ho Novea�be�r m�cating �rQ l�av€� 9 athr�r i�am� �n �h� �g�nd�� Th� edditfon oP thc�so d�s�gn critc�ria to �ho othor p�oposod �az°form�nca �t�nd�rd�, results in � mor� comprahon�i�Q raviow o� � th� devolo�ment standard quos�ion. It w�s agro�d, hawov�r, that this c�v��13� approach coverfng reviseci s�and�rds ��d pnlicy will be more appropriate and helpful, rather than confining it to the � initially proposed items relating to building materiel, trash handling techniques, roof top screening, etc. A text describing the recommended proposals will be submitt�d to the Planning Commission for the November meetfng, at which time �hey may wi�h to act or devote a apecial m�eting to th�s subject. � � � � �� 2� 3 � 4� 3 � � T! _ � � �' .. ii' w �; �u� '� xn � u7o � u� I Gqi � p�1 � li� � II�' +�„ p� � 13� « ��' �,: �� : � . j � p � �, : A j�� ' �� ^� � � � � �; � �� e � �, �'�� r _,� � �"Q ; , �, . �;, c �� ':�� ` ; � i I� : t , pi � f ;. .� �ra t� ' � t : �:�'. ° , ,. � fi ;, O � 9 � � �. . , ��i�F�_�_ �� 1 �� E � �� _� �i °'�±�A » � ' I �':_� � t, I i:� 1 � f I ' , � '� � � ��_-- uns ; �—Ji ' `,� � y..�_,�� . � �� x'�.��u: �� .: � ` � `� �.: I:._ �;kK.f �� _6 J� lid �5 � ,�� I «..�� ...�� . �� H '� y � � +� � � c�� . - � �r �, ��. �-,,=' �_ �--a � ' =.��.� i f'^ � ' '—_u:....._ Q'.i�_� i � - I �_ � - ��- _ �- S � 4: i tOw � �,�' , �J"'`.+..+a�� ..��,�� ,� ,,� ...'i�_��ry� � �� A. µ ;� �� i1 �` ` =� �'��; �� i�' q!i 'a'�''�' ui� �r:—, . 9 �. ; �,..'�� ' �..�;a t�i'��r �I 3� ' r �. r' �,��. ' �r K Y. � ' 2 � 3 : •: 5 � � � � � � � Plannin� A.gen�l� ��c�� City Planning �ams»i�s�o� Rasevitle , Minn�sflia r� a � � • � rali ss� w� ��,...�.�.�.�....r,. . . . _ �, �3 �', a� �' ��r �' �+� �. �T �i', a� � a'� � ;2U �j � �� r� U • � DATE: TO: FROM: M E M O R A N D U M October 18, Steve Sarkozy .;. Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, October 5 and 11, 1989 1. DuFresne (476-0086) Chuck DuFresne was in with his brother Tom, and Bill Barbusch, principally to review the status of the City's acquisition of park and drainage land on the northwest quadrant of their most recent shopping center development. We reviewed a memo documenting our planning meeting of one year ago at which time it was agreed that �the City would purchase these lands for a �'reasonable amount . We noted the research we had done r lardine landscape architect's office (by checking his files) g g the plans and special use permit issued for theli d a to � this parking on the old Glendenni.:g site that app irements that applied, and property, the shoreline and constructed pond. Thus, a reasonable the presence of the newly price would be based on that The dDuFresne's happarently feelhthe regulations and easements. land should be acquired at the racases W devel pable pparcels dare them. We noted that in many , purchased with the understanding that portions of the land are not developable and that it you separate these parcels out, their value is minimal. The reason for all of this is the anticipated finalization of a development agr�heeroadwaytthro�ghtthislsitengl development, and construction of Mr. Waldron noted that the potential value, and that DuFresne's acquisition costs. submission of an apparent agreement to their bank was their staff. City has an appraisal indicating these numbers differ from the Mr. DuFresne also noted that the approved and signed development an "error" on the part of one of We summarized with Mr. DuFresne that when expending public funds, reasonable value depends uPe tri t ions 1( such tasr w t landsul and physical and functional r drainage areas;. 2, Ficek (63G-2367) Dave Ficek noted that he is discussing the potential development of a portion of the easterly side of the Concordia School site and showed us a very preliminary drawing suggesting the possibility of 26 single family lots which may be possible to be platted in the area proposed. This involves moving of the ball field to the northwesterly quadrant of the site, where it appeared that the ball field would have minimal land area for � this purpose. He inquired about the potential of tax increment support. We questioned the need to provide tax increment support to develop a single family plat anywhere in Roseville. Mr. Keel noted the need for additional right-of-way on Dale Street. Mr. Ficek also suggested that there are potential plans for use of some of these ball field facilities for City recreation purposes. We suggested that he review these concepts with the Parks and Recreation Director. We suggested some changes to the platting layout which would provide for additional space contiguous to the track area. We also suggested that the exact location of the right-of-way control, with respect to Minnesota Street, be established so as to determine the limitations as to public access to this street through a potential platted area. 3. Manne (349-8924) Tim Manne is with Coldwell Banker and was in with Leslie Johnson, a lady who operates Norma Jeans nightclub at 2601 26th Avenue South, Minneapolis. They were inquiring as to the potential use of the old MGM Liquor Outlet Store south of the Fuddruckers site for nightclub purposes. We informed them of the history of the allocation of parking for this area, noting that the reuse of the building, which consists of 10,000 sq. feet, for nightclub purposes, would not work due to the lack of a parking accommodations. We discussed briefly other properties in the City appropriately zoned where development of redevelopment may � occur. 4. Reese (831-6633) Frank Reese is an architect, who was in with R. J. Remmen, who is with the Americor Multi-Family Housing Corporation, who are looking for sites for developing low to moderate income housing for rental purposes in Roseville. They have projects they have done in Dakota County, Washington County, and St. Paul. Their market target would be for �5 years or older couples and young couples. We reviewed possible sites, and suggested that he discuss any financial subsidies with the Community Development Director. They noted their target market is for two bedroom units at 850 sq, feet and $500 per month, one bedroom units at $450 per month and, 3 bedroom units at $550 per month. We discussed ordinance procedures and requirements and some possible sites as it relates to the comprehensive land use plan. 5. Cary (839-8802) Brian Cary is with the Mallard Properties Housing Division of United Properties who rec:en�ly developed major projects in Galden Valley, Plymouth, and Ma�le Grove. They are looking for sites to up to 200 units at a density of approximately 15 units per acre with a typical three story apartment project. We reviewed • potential sites, regulations, and procedures. �_, We have, of course, reviewed the sites with many developers over the past two years, in particular a number which are owned by • George Reiling. It appears that in most cases, the owners of these sites that are indicated for potential multi-family housing in the comprehensive plan, do not chose to sell or develop in the most recent past. 6. Kaupp (887-6100) Bud Kaupp was in with Bill Ferris, both of the Super America organization, who have two sites in Roseville under the "Save Mart" name. One of these is at 2785 N. Hamline where their 130 foot by 150 foot site is contiguous to a potential parcel which could provide for expansion in the form of a area of land 120x130 feet. The problem is that this is at the northwest corner of Judith and Hamline, and the properties immediately contiguous to the south are all zoned and developed single family. The land in question is indicated as multi-family housing on the comprehensive plan and we noted that any attempt to build a new service station involving the existing property plus the new parcel could be difficult due to its impact on single family deyelopment. We suggested that they discuss their concepts with single family home owners in the area before proceeding any further. After this contact, they may choose to modify their development expansion concepts or drop the idea all together. Involved here would be an amendment to the comprehensive plan, a rezoning from B-3 and R-3 to B-2, preparation of a plat, and � required park dedication and a speci.al use permit for a service station development. 7. Kaupp (887-6100) � Bud Kaupp and Bill Ferris also discussed the potential total renewal of another Save Mart site at 3001 Rice Street which is at the northwest corner of south Owasso Boulevard and Rice Street. This site along with the one on Hamline is part of a 10 site purchase from the Hoffman Corner oil Company several years aqo. This site is 115 feet by 187 feet and it appears that a tatal redevelopment oi the site with new structures, pumps, parkinq, signaqe, and landscaping would be passible. We sugge�ted that they revise the plan somewhat to revise more parking as recommended by Mr. Keel, closing of one of the existing driveways onto Rice Street. Here, where the land is properly zoned, the application would include a variance to the setback fo� the canopy, rear yard setback, and a special use permit for service station development. 8. Commers (633-6312) Danny Commers was in with George (architect) to discuss the remodeling converted office warehouse building Prior and County Road 82. They now LeTendre and John Newell of their existinq partially �t the northwest corner of propose to install a 26, 000 � �. sq. foot furniture store with an option for a 10,000 sq. foot � expansion. The building already has a 6,000 sq. foot Lebermans Interior at the site. The furniture store would be a Schneiderman's who have existing outlets in Lakeville, Duluth, and Minnetonka. They presented preliminary architectural plans showing how they would reface the structure, with the intent of developing the entire building for retail purposes. We discussed the details and options for handling of the facade, metal roofing, sign band, landscaping, parking, and circulation. It appears the site cannot meet the 5 per 1000 foot retail parking requirements, though furniture stores do not need that density of parking. We suggested that they revise their plans, and indicate clearly locations of property lines by survey. It appears this building could be converted to an attractive retail structure if they proceed with concepts as suggested. We noted, too, that the quality and general use of materials has to extend equally around the four sides of thE structure. 9. Dunn (829-3434) Paul Dunn was in with John Stencil, who is the project manager for the Welsh Companies proposed expansion of Pavilion Place. Also present was Lynn Sloath, architect on the project. Mr. Dunn noted that all of the home owners will be out by February 15 anci about half of the owners wi11 have the right to move their homes if they desire. They propose to consider sellinq some of the houses, nff�ring them to the Fire Department for burning � practice, or demol�.sh the homes at the sites. They also noted that they intend to move and store 5ome of the trees on t�e various sites. M�. Keel noted that the City may be inter�st�d in picking up some of the trees with the tree mov�r operated by the . Parks and Recreation Department. I�r. Keel suggested that they contact Paul Olson, Parks �uperintendent, with this pro�osal. Mr. Dunn notec� that �they would bo happy to a�sist the Ci.ty in ttae acqui�ition of some oF these tr�es if this proves practical. We then reviewed the status of the 19 conditions attached to the approval. The following was generally agr�ed upon sc�edulEd to come up on the first meeting in November, at which time it would be appropriate to consider the vacation of tha existing streets. Two of �he three anchors was required for the development oE the c�nter anticipated to b� signed within 30 d�ys. Th�y �re meeting aqain with MNDOT and L�n La�rine, Commissioner, to impl�ment the transfer of the frontage road to the City. The conc�pt of r�nting the available land to the City w�s discus�ed and will be considered in gr�ater detail, as it relates to �h� development plan. The curb design is nearly complete and is anticipated to be approved by the County. Equitable Life Insura�c� has agreed to the use of the westerly e�d of the triangular site �ontiguous to the property to the south. The owners have agreed to the vacation of America Street and tY�e staff will check whe�her or not the vacation was properly published. If not, it is � anticipated that it will pub�.ished and action taken within th� next two months. Rice Street approval is in process. Final •.,,,, R, landscape plans have not been prepared but are in process. More • detailed layouts of deliveries to the proposed anchor to the northeast corner of the site are to be prepared as it relates to the limitations for loading and unloading and snow removal prior to 7:00 a.m. (as stipulates in the approval). It appears that if practical, based on the layout and location, this stipulation may be proposed to be amended. Occupancy is anticipated for September 1 for at least two of the anchors with a full shopping center completion to occur prior to the Christmas season. Mr. Dunn was encouraged by Mr. Keel to submit a request for the City�s preparation of detailed engineering plans for the conveyance of the ponding to the site northeasterly across Snelling Avenue. Mr. Dunn agreed to submit such �a proFosal. In generally, it appears that progress is being made towards the anticipated beginning of the construction in February 1990. Mr. Dunn noted that they would build a parking ramp on the west side of Pavilion Place first, followed by the beginnings of construction of the remainder on the east side of Pavilion Place in the Spring of 1990. 10. Strub (633-1334) Mike Strub proposes to develop two lats out oP 3�xisting lot� �t the northeas� �orner of Dun�.op and DionnQ. �de previously discussed this proposal and he now submits a survay indicating � th� devQlopment of a?2 Poot lot (north sido o� tha pro�erty) �nd a 81.98 foot lat on tha sou�h sfde. The lots w�uld t��v� ar��s o� 11, 407 �eQt �nci 12, 696 sqe �eet, each of wh,�ch m�et th� n�infmum l�ot requirements. r�r. Strub propasc�s to sQll tMc��Q �ot� td his brother who intends to build a new t�ou�e o� �hQ nQwly cr�uted lot. e�cause thQ lots ere I�ss than � z�cr��, par�C dodic�tior� �nd money �n li�u is not requirc�d for this �it�. 11. Cav� (4�2-96G7) Sam Cave notod tt�at t�e has succassPul and v�ry guickly dc�velo�Q� tha new single fAmi�y lot� on �killman, south of th� CorPus Christi site. �i� is therafare, looking �or sda�ition�l lot� to plgt in the City. NQ discussed th@ pot�r�ti�l Por th� �xten�ion oP Sa�xt�nt, �ast of Dal� Stro�t, whicf� �r�� cor��id�rad �or developmen� about two yo�rs eqo. At th�t tim�, thQ �ity �nd staff prep�red � f��ib3.lity stud�r indic�ting th��, total cos�s would ba in �he vicinity o� �20,000-z6,000 por lot. $2�000 of that cost was for right-oP-w�y acqui�ition. taQ gaviawod procedures and requir�ments, suggestiny th�t if ho wi�he� to pur�ue the d�velo�ament o� tha proper�y at t�i� ��mpi he �::�}� ��.ish to discuss it with som� af th�e land owners involv�d, �nd considQ� ways in which th� dev�lopment costs may �e raduc�d (dedication of th� right-of-way would bo one of tho options) . 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Dunwell (483-6701) Tom Dunw�ll is the arthit�ct for a new bank proposed by Tam Willmus at thg oast end of �he Fi�e property at the north�ast corner of County Road C�and Sne�ling. Tom �nd his �on, John, wera in att�ndance at the n�eeting alonq with Dala Ham�l�on, consulting Engineering fron� Combs and Frank R�c�se As�ociates. Ofck M�rhu�A from th� Willmus Gompan�► was also pr�s�nt. �ob Ku�appers and John Paulson repr��ented Firre Associatas. The purpo$� o� the moe�ing was to �r�$�nt a pr�lim�nery �oncept plan praposing two 1.7� acge si��s, dlir��tly north� o� and can�iguaus to County �tca�d C. Th�s� sito� wou�d b4 3ccQs�ed !by t�� c�xtans�on a�` thc� pr,iva�.a dr,�ve the� now �erv�s �ha �xi��in�r bank �nd of �ic� bul�ld,inc� �nd thQ Slumbarlsnd bui�.dinc�� h@ bank �id� wou��el cor�si�t u1t�,t��kc� of a��,000 sc�. Poot buil�ing �►�th a�il��r 4,�A� sq. �e�et in i�n;�tial ��a� ��nt, 76 pa�rkf ng �a��ca� �t-� propa�xc�r� �t��ich �rould accommodate thc� �ut�r@ expA;nsian. �h� �a�opa,��d A d��ve up ��ne$� ell oE ahich arQ a�ca�s�d ai� mP the� �riv��o d��ve� Mr. +Will�u� notQa th�� h� b�� ructu�a ��d �o � quality �u�l�3inc� �rith caref�r�� and�c��e+d grQut�ds. 'Th� Pi��, �� rop�osed, �wou�c� aar��'o� to A�1 rQe��c�ment�. i�e� no�:ad the a��ial cor►ca�r�� ra��t�ng ta �c�Qet��ng o� �oaft�p e��Qn� ��ar�r�ts �aill t�Q U�Qdj ,�n� th� h�nsllin� c�� t��h. �'t�c� proe�� M�� wc�uld ��vc�lde� �ou� �le�en�� c � s 2. ]. A�a�nd�car�t t�a tha pla�nned un,�t d�vQlo�mQn� (s�Ach add��,ion h�� an ln�►olve�� @n�m�nt to tha �t�D� . A��rAva� ot s pralimin�rY pla� (nor� �� t�� l�nd wcauld k�Q pl�ttc�d) . SP�� u�a p�rr�it �ar sitc� �l�n approval (r�quir�d in th� a-1� xonc�) . 4. ��a�roval !or � ta�m�Qrary buildinq. �i �Qmg�Q��ry b�a��c��n� is p�o�osed ir� tt�a� ferm c�� st�nd�rd mo�il� bank str�actur� naw widely u��cl in the indus�x��r, �� u�� @ locat��d on tha site from �pproxim��ly �anue�y to �`uly to �ultill bAnk ch�r��r timing reguir�mants, This �traactur� would likaly ba loc�atad on th� PAr ��st �nd o� thc� sita w�er� ground will be re�ervod �or axp�nsion of th� driv� up t�ller syst�m (�11 8 lanes wi11 not be b�uilt with the initisl dav�lop��nt). 9 Mr. Keel discussed drainage concepts with Mr. Hamilton. A � drainage plan has been appraved by Rice Creek which may be subject to some modifications. Mr. Hamilton will work directly with Ntr. Keel regarding the evolution of any revised drainage plans. Sidewalk requirements were noted. The interior road system would be complete with the preparation for this development as part of this preliminary plat and PUD. 2. Kueppers (332--2561) Bob Kueppers w�s riack with Tom Hilger and John Paulson from his offic@ (Fine Associatss) to review the use oP the ��conc� of the two 1.72 ac�� sites in the revised PUD for the Snelling AvQnue/County Road C property. Directly west of thQ proposeci bar�k sifi� is proposed a rtew Oliv� Garden Restaurant which i� a General l�ills r�staurant chain orig�inating out of orlando, Flarida. Thc� proposal is to canstruct thaix prototype 9,100 �q. �oot r+�st�ursnt wi�.h 132 pm��king �pac�s. floor plan� a�Q not �v�ila�ble for thQ buiic�ing but w� rev�.nwad orr�inance parkir�g requirc�m@nts suggest�ng �hat tNc�y examine this car�f�ally, i� a� much r�� 2 s�acos may not bo arlac�uatQ� Thc�r� wil]. bc� 330 sc��t:�. I� th«s� �wo site plans arc� �pproved, �nd �h� �me�dacl �U� and pral im.lnary ��at, this wi.11 compXot� th� ��or�sion o� tho i�t�rna� road a�yst�m �nd 1a�avQ � s�n41a �ita r�ma�ining (across �rom C�mta�n) consisti�ng o� 2.68 acres. WQ revi�wad sot�� r�+��tail� of �h@ rQ�Caurent p].�r�, nat�ng thc� '� City' � con��n€� �cac��rdincj rootfto,� �quipmorot, tra�h can��ir��r, �o�ncrc�te �u�bin,c�, �and qur��.i�ty land�c�ping. '�ha�r� p�coccs� �c�Q acou�d includQ the PUD 8mendm�t��t �nd p�el �min�e�► �� a�d a �p�c�al use+ �e�rmit �o� � ��tc� pl.an epprov�l �►$ �m�c�uir�tl �n t�hQ �� di��r�ct. � rc��ur�z�� ov�ar �,oOQ �q. �o�t i� � p��►�i��aei u�c�. '�hi� i� t�►� ��mo ra�t��g�n� tke�t �id nagoti�te �i+th the aarnc�� ot �hc� i.i�o �car �c�t�nC�al p�r�h��►c� w�i�h r�� no� c��e�tu��d. '�t�u� �t a��, the��c� wil� bs� t�� l��a 1 i��l�t�� Q��aur�n�s� �a� �t�l� im��di�tQ vieini�y, �� l�n� a� pr�apa�e�c! �r� ��ov�s�i. �`k�� r�a�tr�ur�nt �h�in h�� e r�putatiac� �o� eon�ic��b�Q ��a�c��s, and wa t�uggaat�d th��°Q�ura�, ths� c��Q�� tt�n��on �� a�� to the a�ount o� ��rk��g ��c��rc�d, cao��.ng r,h��t t�r►� nec�� n�y �xe�c�d o��%nanc+� �c��airat��rrtg. Thcay �ri�l pr�r��r�� c�guir��3 �l��r�, �p��cs, �,t�c� c�a�r�lo�m�a�t �x��po��►1 �� Q�k� ��n+d l�Qr �ubmi��c�4n Cor �l�n ��viflw by �h� Pianning Com�s�s�iot� at th�ii�� var�D��r m��t.ir�g. J. Doc�oi� ��1�-2��i) Sob �ae�;en i� wi�h �drtl�wostarn �ell Talop�o�� om��ny �r�d Propos�� to instAil � 2U�30 �oot �eommun�c�tion� r�lgy� t�uildi�g n��r tha inter�ac�ion o� �Goun�y Romd C And �l�val�nd. 'Tl�a p��cQl proposed �ar k�his ue� is a�-sk�,e►p��ac� romner�t a�a�c�d hy �l�rk � Porento, somo o� whicl°i surrounds tt��a e��cistirrg �ous� and a�mall 6 clinic, immediately east of the freeway on Cl.eveland veterinary � westerly under Avenue, just south of the service ro the west 1end of this tract � 35W. He proposes the location along ested that the involving a long driveway off Cleveland. We sugg and that building be located 30 feet off S ld eorngiven to thedcontiguous the remainder oi the land be clinic. This would put the owner of the house and the veterinary land into use and eliminate Wha�° W osed alongnCleveland would rem�nant. Locating the build�.ng as prop involve about a 5 foot variance and setback to the service road, where there is ample boulevard area. would be designed by a local M�, Dacken noted that the building itched roof. arch:tect, would be Q� ou d be wellrl ndsc�pedhand maintained so We suggested the site sh would be as to be an aesthetic as�et to s$g �oor and�t�obven�ilato�s• H� on� story with a ped@strian acce le�s g�� ri11 prep�ra proliminary a�chit�ctura� �nd �ite p subm�ssion to thQ �taff fo� potential ��si°i�i� be rsvi�+�ed�at �ommis�ior� at t��t�m��ting,meeting. P1 tho 0ctobor � � �. �'t�desco �GAG-3511) Stava TutlQsco, a Iong te� E�os�vilia rc�sident, has � very �in� hom� snd �rour�d� in thQ ol�l Salst��d d d�it thQ `��1�h�Ca ��ni�s group o� 2� h�usd� pro�os�a to l�a ror�o � Y ior tho axp�r+��a� of 1Pa�vilion Fi€►ce• s� x�VTudr� cois �+s�t ntial � atto�nay, ��rrY �ug C681-24�44j r� di�cus d�vc�loPmQnt a� � p�rxc�� o�� D��c� Stroet, ��uth o� �yan ��Q€�t. �ha ro�osud �ot �� "�`��g lot", Itha �o��ta 30 ��et a� wY►ich � �� u],tirna�Q d�ad�.c�tian Q��c�r�d6 �o ��],a Strc�et, and w�� Qn� u a�� 1Q$ o� la�s which do �or �s n€�w cui-�e-aac ��t wo�ld op P� not i��ve �x�ontsgc� on � public �tr�e n4�u�o��th1� � i�d�� but ��i�ail�t� stutly w�� denc� �or th�a oF� ��i�n oi �onns� a� th� w�� t�o� built �lu�a to h�gM cQs�� ►n� A�� c�wnQr�, �`i�o�e� �� r�c quost��n t1�� pm� �l��r �h�a Gu�-d�-�s� w�� b+� cor��tru�to� �nr� �1�Q�Q�c�rc�, �t ��uld �aQ� �pp�ot��i�tc� thAt a nc�w ha��a �oulc� tao bv:�lt �r� 't�� t �� d� al,o�t��nt a� Cth��laG t� Da�c� �t��Qt. �a �u�g�gc��tfld � ublt� �igl�t �� p�ropr3.��o i.� t�r. Tu��ch b ��ac�ra�r��r�t�wi�h��kha �City� c��c�mant over ��Q �4 f��' uWlic strc�At u�ntil �u�h �� h� �ou�ci no� u� uti��Qd �o� p �ull cul-dQ�a�� i� con�tru�t�d�, �i�• t��l��o�it€��oc��i � �� 1�� oncap�, �nd tn�y a1Qct to ma�� hi� t�omQ ean�idoac�nc� othax �oc�tl�r�� ir� thQ Gi�y� �c� ra�vi�wQ�3 thQ rc�c�uirQm�r►�r� srr�i proc�dure� �or movi.nq a hQu�a� in Ro�Qv;�lla, whic� inelu�c�s� �ul�iie noti,cQ, n�co��ri�� of cor��iguou�� nt�� 4,. �a ��a�), o� a publ�c h��rinq� t�a4ro .��.hin ��- th€��F �e� I�t��he� �flc� huild#�flt� �.��ector. narm�l inspoct�ans by M�, T�dogco indicAtod hi� Qxt�omo ��vi.11a�� mova hi� Y�ousa and to �ontinue te� livo in th� City o� RQ � 5. Lind�k� (690�-326�) , Leonard Lindeke is with Realty World, and is considerinq � converting an existing house at 2112 Dale Street to an office building. This house ls east of Dale Street, directly north of the B-Dale Mens Club, which is zoned B--1. This is an isolated horne, thus, subject to some u�e other than a single family home but not for general business use. The house has 1,061 sq. feet with a walk out basement. Thus, there is about 2,000 aq. feet of usable space. The �.ot has 100 feet of frontage. Conversion of this to an office would require at least 10 parking spaces which may be workabl� in the rear. We noted tha�t the City i� interested in buying thQ easterly p�rtion oP this lat �l��s a portion of land to tha northoast of the s�.te which s�s actu,ally in the park area. Mr. Lindek� not+�d his ir�t�r�st in selling same of tha land to the City. W� �uggest�d that he disGuss th,i� with tho Pa�ks enei R�cre�tion Director, who has oatabli�h�d � pric� L�rom a pr�vious sal� from the Mu�ller-�iQg peoplo. �ta �ugq��ed thst ho �irst �81k to tho build�ng inspocto� and F'�re F�i��shal r�gardir�g th� u�Q and t�ead€� of th� bU��ding. S�condly, wo sug��t�d t��t hc� t81k to th� nair�hbox� rag�rd�ng th� conce�t, �n as muct� as thair �up�art could bo vc�a�y h�l��l. Th��dly, hv� �hauld ptr�p�►�� he eppropria��a �ikQ m�d �u�l�i�tng pl�ns Por f�+urther r+�vi�aw by Ci�� f�. �1�. L�i,r�dakQ �ot�dl that h� has a daq�o� in par�c a�d �°ercrQ��ion � worl� ��o�a �tRrQ Un�v��f�ty o� �i�►r�Q$ata, but i� currc�r��tly A ��aar�ct��r a��th th�a Mi��al �asa��a C�nt�r of ��s U�i�rar��y o� t�f�tno�a�a wh�,ch i� 3ocat�d cer��c�u�u� �o �h� pawar �18nt ar� �+�st �ivar it�ad, �tr. i�inda��ca, +�h��QE�r�, is a pa�t ti�a �ealtar ar�th ��alty w�ar�d. �i� natc�ci hi� int�nt �to �c�r�us �t�i� e��vc��opm,�nt �anc�p�, and �+o�ld bc� ba�� to rQvie�w ��s pr�g�c�g� an�l �n��►t ar�th ��,�r ��ta�� ir� �i�c� n�sr futa�ra. 8y prQ�ar��ngQm�n� t�itta �ob��rt Bal�, C�ty �tt�rr��►, �ordy E�c��a��h �nd �iaw��d �ah�grQn, gav� depa�f tiana �te �r�►nDc �e�ku��i' $ �GtorR�� n t�a �rc��€��►�ca o� � c�uct �r��o��ar �rom �; 40 �. �►. ta 9; 30 �. m. i�n gr�p��a�ica�t fox° � tsa��tivQ t�3��1 �late �.et thea �attar p��t o� t�ovQ�nb�r, 1��9 rQ�,��i�� ta the City'� �uit rc��ulC�ng �rom �t�� ity'� d,��pprov�l a� �1r. �t�4cu�k�'s �aquc�� or �icictya�d va�i��c�► d�ni�d by C.�ty �our�cil. 0 a t = � .: 2 � 3 �' a � g ��y`• ,r:., r n+ ny � I� cl.l ,P"� / ' � i'� i �' l' �� 1� � � � ;�; � � �� f� A � ' �° °i "•� � �� . �,. ; . � �/ t i � ' �� L�i7 Ls..r�_i�' , �' �i ��. ��I L�� C � f�6 i �yC ` " I�r;r�„�_....-, ui'i � �y E� �y o {� ,��r � �; c�-e ( _ ��-�'� � "=; ;'.` '� '�-'�r � � ��!`rv, E � -- � a ; f p I -�i' ` � dti �� ;�^ .�,. <r ,'�i —�+;��«�:-. , F � i ; � '�� '�- ,_-_` ,j � y� __ � � � � � =� o .� � H � ' f.�,.�+� r� : ^„�'.'4's'�''L,,., ��:i L i�� !1 '.i �; �,�`�{ �.i.- �q� �, a�� r+ ��.a .�,� � _ ,. . . � � �L+�.._. , ..�. �� _ x �_� � �� - � 1 a s, �H `"ry'� � u N!9 I � �.+d..�Y �a .s=""��s � f .._r1 �+w� "�"9i � ��"`-"�:,, tHrt .�+ x� �:�_ ri ��-`_ �,��.��M ��:�� }-� �.; i: � ��.f.�,� �; ��. �i � ,,.�,.�;,, 1�u.��ti �' 1 1�� i� ��.�.. �il ii • a'=:: �: :�su _.� ^ i1 -" i— = �'' - ! � �r++i. 1 • i��f�..�.� ;� ��j �� I �' ��'� K g i 2 t 3: .: ��_ � x � � - - . .. , « Piannin� Ag�nt�� r�t� City Plar�ning Comm�ssio,� Rosevilfe � Mir��esot$ , n o_ �ot�o a� e� Lf0 �rs xrt � iid�'r � p.�t �. A�j '�' �� w R� � 9�' � �Oi '.�„ �L: u� � �a � �� M3 �; �a �i ��C ,�; G6 � �T 3;! �8� � i9 x 2� � ♦ M E M O R A N D U M . DAT�: Sept�mber 28, 1989 �'�� Steve Sarkozy �ROM: Eioward Dahlqran SU�3JECT: PLANNING �FFICE HOURS, Septemher 20, 1989 1. Kr�nk (�39-�200j Rs�n Kr�nk, �rchitQct wf th KK� was in with ono of hi$ men, D�yid F`r�nk, �nd C�ndy Grey and David Poian�ki, both of S1�H, and �i1,i d�g�1��'�Y► �uturo man�gQr of tha Satur�n naw car s�lg� �ite on the Ru�n l�nd. Ron Kr�nk prQsent�d a r�vise�l site plan, tha d��a�ilss �� rhich meet flr �xceed all z�ning raquir�ments �xc�pt � short �+kr.Q�ch c�� atb,�Ck for tho parkfng in �a�sout �ho middlo of' tha ��t�, �auth a�' Caunt� Ror�d C. �iQrc�, becau�o o� th�e im��ct af th� �vQrhe�d t��F i�wa� (under which no building cen ba placedj �s nc�ee��ar�r �o ��due� �hc� aetbe�k in ordQr ta gat a 30 �oot wide drivar�a�� aro�a�d �hQ structure. Fu�thar to +�Me wc�s� this is m�tig��Qv �y► ��Q ��,rking ba�nc� setbeek 20 �`oet �nd gr��tar in �ha� v,t�in�ty a� tP�� no�thaea��Qrly quadr�nt o� th� �sittQ Cau�ty Ra�c� ��nrl L�on� L�ke Rosd) . Ka�l hee� d�sc�s�c�dt th� ��w��k r��x�mc�rr�s (on both streets� �nd �u ��r� d��tly with ��Q Ri�o Cr��k ��t�a�Qr�had�@ �g�rding �th� � �r�►�n�gt� du�ir�g th� �eor�Capt. ��o �d�l,itioroal right-of-��►ay ,i� �c��aa��a� �� u�ty� �� C or t.�ng L�ko RoAd, 'The build�ra� ig ��o�o�a�r� �a t�a ��cQ t` Ir� i�h�e1 wh i�� m�ta 1, �xact ly tho ��me as wa►s u��d �;r� thc� ��r��ti ��,�Q pflvQlopme�� to thc� nor,th�►e�t o� �h� �� a��e��e qu�d��ntj , 6�e di�cus�a�i h�nd�,inc� oP �he roog �on�tru��ic�r� whc�� r�Q�, ,�� pvarho�� kyl�c�hts mr� i��luded �� h� p��. �"��y �o�Q� thca hc��tir�g sy�t�m woul� i�e insid�s in � boile�r �oo�. Tt��y ��e� �� e�rta�in Abaut �hc� Air c�nditioring ��hlch �� a�r�cr�� a� �oc��zad on the rco�. I� �t is, wa� �o�� i��or��+�r-r ot ��rQc�n�ng �uch �c��ipm�n�. TMi� �rould la@ diii"�eult i��u�Q tha �i�� viaw�blQ �rom �ha to� off tho E��y ��u�:ht�c��n� p��r�i��lsrly) . Th�� natc�d tt�Q�� would be �u��n+g ora � w31i�Q gr�vQl �oo�' bal�� wl�ich �hould look good �rQr� thQ �oP (r��or�g r��th �ho skylight�) � it ia not c1u��Qrad u� �r,�th h��ne� or vc�ntil�t�ng �guip�en�. wo di��uss�d �ign�ge. They �ro�o�r� ��aylon sfgn on �h� Qast side o� the sit� in cc��ortn��,�o wf �h tt�� ign �odQ� 4� Peot l�igt�, 225 �c�. g�� cont�,g�o�.� ta � frr�4w,�y� ar�c3 � 8x2� foo� high pylan sign nelr ch� antran�a o�� nc� I,.�Dca ��cl. xho 23 ia�t j� tho hQigi�t. Th� ��'o ��r�r� ai� ir� c�n�orm�n�e. �'hQr� �rduld br� g�ound sign 8 Foot 6 incl�as widQ �� g�e� h,: gh �i�ac,� Iy a t t hQ �antr�nee. This �i�e h�� public r�ght-of-w�y on 3�ida� ancl thus is �ntitled to 3 �ylon sign�, though an� of tham will �� g ground sigfl. Thus, it would ��p�€�� }�� n� si�n v�rianc�s �r� prnpo�ed or nec�ssary. � Cindy Gr�y i� a tr�ffic consultant with SEN and noted the �o�sib�ility o� mov�,ng th� driv�way of� L��ag L�ke Road, �ur�hex �o the sou}h, in as much as at such point in time as the office • development to the south (on Long Lake Road) is fully developed she anticipates a peak hour problem with the right turn movement off Long Lake Road, north and east on County Road C. We suggested that they review this and make recommendations as they see fit subject to further staff review. Also, reviewed exterior elevations of the structure which are finished the same on all four sides with the white material. The landscape plan had not been prepared. A fence is proposed along the south side of the site on the west side (contiguous the railroad tracks). Here we suggested that this fence cannot be used for a sign. 2• Lutton (571-5552) Connie Lutton is a district manager for the Conoco service station system and manages 7 stores in her district. She has recently moved from Ohio, and is working on the Roseville site off Rice Street to redo the signage and colors on the site. The have an existing sign on the south side of the site which is about 40 feet back from Rice Street which they propose to replace. We noted that this can be done as long as the si n doesn't exceed 100 sq, feet. She also wanted to g Conoco on the face of the cano put the word explained why a sign on the canoy over the pump islands, We asked for a variance to do this pythat it would ein a effect She changing the ordinance and we didn't think that would occur. rn other words, if we do it at this site, we almost have to a114w � everyone to do it. We suggested, therefore, that she put a si n under the c�nopy, which would be a g have any signage on the building whichpisasetbackuae considerab�� distance fram the right-of-way (to the west , 1� that she can proceed with her improvement project� without apply;ng for any variances as to signage. 3. Ja�kson (623-0153) Gary Jackson, representing the Slawik interest, was in with Jerr �lawik (645-8111) to present a ver proposed redevelopment af their la d southlofithe Plan for the site, westerly of Snellin Midway Ford time, three structures, one of n whichr ouldh e pa �stri a� this oripnted to the south (bac';ing up to Midwa Ford � p°�nteX bank building with two floors and drive up facilit es, and�anfree st�nding major retail user. The drawn, looked quite good and was helpful�gn o the extent it was to the Byerly�s areas to the west, in as muchpasSthelstrip�center was oriented east �•est (rather than creating a wall on �he west side of Snelling), All access was off of �incoln Drive, and o� course, c�n b� done if the service road as it exists is vacated, Mr. Keel reviewed with th:m the exchange of right-of-wa � relating to the extension of Lincoln. Mr. Keel also noted that, in view of the proposed light rail system, that will likely occur 1 along Snelling, that there is currently a recommendation from the • Ramsey County LRT that a right-of-way of approximately 20 feet be retained along the west side of Snelling for this purpose. Thus, there is a likelihood that that portion of the service road contiguous to Snelling would involve less turn back by retaining a 20 foot strip. We agreed that it would be appropriate to adjust their plans accordingly. Ms. Slawik still gets a great deal more land vacated than she dedicates for Lincoln Drive so this should not be a significant problem. The Midway Ford site would be retained at its present size of 6.5 acres but of course would change in shape (by redrawing the south line perpendicular to Snelling). We also discussed the possibility and the desirability of connecting the new Slawik development area to the existing Conoco site. We suggested that this is a good iaea, in as much as it might prevent persons from having to go out into the public right-of-way to get from one site to the other. These plans are being drawn as a preparatory step toward ultimate action depending upon if they have committed users for all or portions of the site. We noted that a development of this nature would likely be a PUD, which would accommodate the division of the land if desired. 4. Wall (633-4902) Tom Wall lives on Eldridge, easterly of Fairview, with his parents, and is interested in the restoration and mainten�nce o� � old clocks. While in Europe, serving with the U.S. Arm he has become proiicient in the r�storation of large old clocks, which he notes are now plentiful in Europe, in as much as many of them are b�ing replaced with new electric works, He is inquiring about the possibility of building a large ornamental clock as a fea�ure interest to a repair and sal�s shop and/or his home, We reviewed the requirem�nts for home occupation. W+� suggested that he do clock repair in his home and could �ot build �uch a clock aut front. The ordinance, in gact, allows only 3 sq. �oot sign, the sam� as a name plat� sign for aray residence in a�ingle family zone. We suggested, hawever, that hQ contact some oi the retailers in the area, soms of whom may be interested in having a tradztional outdoor clo�k constructed as part of t�eir shopping center ambience. 5. Schetz (636-4809) Harvey Schetz is th� operations manager for Rollins Oil, which is located south of County Road C, on the east side of the Her.tz Penske location in Roseville. They propose to build a pylon sign, south oF County Road C which wo�.ld identify the users of the buildi,ng. They have recentl� moved some Qf the intern�l �perations, putting the Rollins oPfices ir� the front of the building and putti.ng a parts operation in the rear. Mr. Schetz produced a drawing of a sign propos�d which totals 96 sq. feet. � The sign was to be 18 feet high. This industrial zone allows a 100 sq, foot sign 25 feet high, setback 40 feet from the right- r � , of-way. It appears from reviewing the air photos in the section maps that this sign can be constructed on the site in • conformance with the ordinance and no variances will be required. Mr. Schetz also noted that they are still interested in the possibility of developing a service station facility on their site. This is a special use in an I-1 district and thus, could be processed on that basis. There is more than adequate setback in the area to accommodate such a Facility on the n�rth side of their building (on the south side of County Road C). This would occur on the northeasterly corner of the structure. � � ac2 A � 8 uez C cra � 7�N E ma F uQe G un H nw I CotG J iva K � � C_ __ Ros �i � �I o � � Yl n ? a 'zl a �i � gi a ."�', o =� �t� ' 11 = 12 � 13 � 14 � 15 ; i6 ' {7 � 18 ` 19 � 20 '-i eville , Minn�sota i��'� � �o ; �i � �� ' �a � �5 '-; �s � �� a � �9 � zv � ti o ,000 2oQo 1 ��' �� •A/�_� ml 1/8 U4 li2 ��s � _��%� H,� A � 8 � C �� n fH� E � F uoo G cu3 H ...e I foH J �ss¢ K voa L �. ro � V �• � E M O R A N� U M � DATE: September 18, 1989 TO: Steve Sarkozy FROM: Ho�ard Dahlgren SU&7'ECT: PLANNxNG OFFICE HOURS, September 13, 1989 1. Mueller (636-9000) Paul Mueller, a realtor with Merrill Lynch, was in to dis�uss �he possibility of redeveloping the 1.753 acre site south of County Road B, westerly of the Burger King, located at the southwes� corner of County Road B and Snelling. Tha.s property consists of two single family homes (on the wes� side) wit� a. 11 unit apartment on tt�e easterly most lot. The land us+e to the west and south is apartments which have been developed for �any years. The comprehensive plan indicat�s that thi.s propext� be high density residentia� dev�lopment, keeping with the development �hat is there. This would theoretically allow the existing hames to be conver�ed to apartment use. The land is zoned B-1, limited bus�,ness. In th�e early ciays, apartments wer� a special use in the E-1 district, and thus, in some of the older parts of town, apartment developments are zoned B-1, � We discussed t�he possibility of reusing the land for uses that are permitted in the B-1 zone. Mr. Muell�r noteci �hat p�rhaps a �ast food restaurant would bring the hic�hest priee. We suggestec� that may or may not be appropriate, in as much as ther� ar� somP traffic groblems� at this lacation. Mr. Keel no�ed the �ity's past ef�orts to obtain a righ� of way for service road to run parallel to ti�is land along the south edge of the Burg�r King, Rocky Roccoco, and the ather sites owned by Mr� Knutson. We suggesteci that if a 30 foot right-Qf-way could be dedicated on the eas�t side of �his prop�rty, plus a dediCation of 6.5 feet along County Road B� that this would be helpful. We suggested tha� in terms o� land use pol.icy, that the City is not in favor of eliminating resa.dential units and conversion to �ausiness development. This may particularly apply to restaurants. Another option, is �o leave the existing apartment building and rec�evelop the single family lots for multi-family housing. Ndr, Mueller is g�ing to consider these concepts and continue his e�forts to develop or redevelop the Iand. 2. Freeman (631-2123) Tom Freeman is president o� Paragon Classics Inc. who office in the 4,000 sq. foat s�ructure st 2603 Fairview Avenue South. They make metal plaques which are most often applied to vintage classic cars. He has a number of cla�ssic ca�s, some of which he � stores at this location. They are interested in enterin� the business of buying classi� cars at auctions and selling them at � other auctions, He noted that 98% of these cars woul � delivered �o the site. In some cases, cars would be re never be but all the work would be done insicle and all the car f urbished, stored insicle because of their extreme value. The State would be that they have an agency license if they sell more than r��ires a year. The State agency �ice�sin re 5 cars in the City that the land is g �ires a statement from properly zoned, It seems in this c�se that the issuance of a special for a car agency with limitations that there be no �use permit outside arid that no advertising of cars for sale nos parked parkir�g bey��d the proportfon of the building the �occu use of the sales limited to classic cars, would be a y pY► and somewhat similar to the car agency a ppropriate� This is for by the handicapped van conversi�n ppl�'cation recently applied people. 3• Strub (633-1334) Mike Strub owns t�ree �0 foot Iots at the northeast Dionne az�d Dunlap. He has an existing I�ouse a� th carner of corner which appears to fit the se�back re e��►ediate were divided into two equal lots. �irements if the and the properties �.mmediately to the east1s nd h�� in� �acappened to to most of th� lots on this block. t h�i�pen�c� piatted at 50 ieet and most of �h�nl t�e were ddevelo �Ots were feet� We suggested that he obtain a surve P�� at 75 of the house and the proposec3 ciivislon and then �a g 1 h��°ca�ion � division. P I� Y a r a 1 o t 4, LeTendre (633-6312) George LeT�ndre was in wi th D�r�ray Cn�ers of Ros�ville grQ to discuss �he proposec� use of a perties 1955 W. County Road B-2 for a n�wr26 400f q�lf� � ructur� at store. This land is ind�cated on the �om��hensive i urn,�tur� developed for business and a portion of the s�ruc�ure an tca ib� zoned �-4 alread�, anct is occupied b ' , , has been sugc�ested that a portion of this bui ding�coul�l b�I�oned�Bs. W� was previously done) to include the furniture �tore and `a� remainder could remain industrial for the tim� b�gn the noted the extent to whi.ch curbing and setbacks would be r as it rela�tes to the g' �r• ��1 to landscape along th� �bui�dingr a d to rre�o�ed that h� desires east sid� af the stxuc�ure. �O th� fronts of the materials and the Cit �S .We �i�cussed �he use �f building going to �' Po�.icies in this r�spect. Th�y are proceed with preparation of additional plans �o carry out the intent of redeveloping a portion o�' this land f� fu .rniture store . �. �h,� 5- Wilson (�36�-9000) Steve Wilson of the Brutger Company eaas in wa.th Heranan Bra � Vice President of development for the Dominium Grou ��a�, is a national housing redevelopment p• Th� lat�er group interested in a site in ��V Roseville. There most recent developments in �he metropolitan • area include a development at Thunderlake site in Eagan, Bloomington, and Milwaukee. Home offices are in Plymouth, Minnesota. The proposed site is that which was previously approved for the Brutger Company at the northwest corner of Trunk Highway 36 and Rice Street. This is a�.5 acre site for which 73 units were approved, They propose to build substantially as was previousl� �pproved by PUD, plus the addition of an access road, land for which was later acquired by Brutger after the last development approvaZ. The initial special use permit for the PUD, �as apgroved July 28, 1988, and the Council agreed to amend the pQ�mit slightly ta provide for the development access road directly off Minnesata Street December 1988. The problem here is that the apecial use permit expires after six months. We, ther�fore, informed them that it would be necessary to rea�ply �or the PUD approval in the s�me Fashian a� th� original application. We reviewed thi� qu�stion with Mr. Bell who concurred �hat ther� was no othex way to get around this lapse of permit problem. Mr. J�pke revi�wed with them th� timinq and praced�res n�ting that this could be heard for �he iirst Wednesday in Nov�mber by th� Plgnning Con�imissi4n. 6. St. Rose of Lima W� reviec�ed the St. Ro�e of Lima pa�king situation with Gardy � �c:s�th and Craic� Waldron wh� informed us that th�e church had complstely redone the par}ting lot thia summ�nneac w�:thout a permi�. They now wish to exp�nd th� parking in the fron� �� the school on the eaet �ide o� Hamline wher� they now havc� �n �xpansive la�an in �ront of the school str�acture. Postions of the lot� ax� �+�n- coniarminr�� particularly the garkin�g lot alonq Eldridg� �here �her� is 3ittle setback to the �tree�. Aelditional oiedicetior� of right-of--way would be requir�ed along N�mline �#v�nu� r�nd v��ciance� should be issued t� the parking �ot where they a�re in non-- c4nformance with the s�tback requiremants. Thu�, i� would lae appropriate �o have them prepar� a survey of exi�tinq lot locations (and the propo�ed lot addition� and have tk�e�n aubmi� �n app�ication for var�iance� as may be neceggary to allow for the� issuanae of a building p�rmit t� expa�nd the parking lot. • � i� 2 a 3'��'' 4 y g . . _ � � �j� L A t�ss _ i B= I uez � C � usa � D � E � F t,� H `� —�-�L�..]U� � i '� �".� � � r: � a�v � . `� � s-��, � �"; �� '�; ,.�---�" �; � ? '�.�,K. -_ c�w ��y I .� ��`'- -'`-y � �:,,:� �,r:e- ��'� �,, J t�„-* s • . ,-8; ,f II J r ' � ;,..a.�.. :uc fL�U J � , K i�� : �' 4� : �' S'��` ` . � � � � 2� 3 �: �� Y 6 t T :� � Planning Ag�n�� "�� City Pianning Commission Roseville , Minnesota f� o ,� � , � , � � . � mt V8 V4 1/2 � � T __ � .. e �� t� �, i4 � y�J �,. �6 � R7 � 18 » 19 �. �2�D � ,�r �, r--�`.�—T��, ��, a � -i a• - � -� � �� a �I �� ' i3 t'! a4 � aS i', �6 � i7 �@ e� � , 20 i - ' ` + �;�� s • M E M O R A N D U M DATE: September 14, 1989 TO: Steve Sarkozy FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJE�T: PI,ANIVING OFFICE HOURS, September 6, 1989 1. Nelson (482-2777) Halvor Nelson is a representatfve of the r�oyerning board of �th� Prince of Peac� Luther�n Church, eoutheasterly c�f Vfctoris ��d County Road C, where he has b�een a mQmber s�nce the �arly da s of the church ir� 1957. �°hey prapcse tc� exp�nd the church from ftis eaci�stia�g 16, 000 sq, fe�t by adding 7, ppp sq, �eet� pillin court yard axea with a two 1�ye1 structu�e. The last expansion occurred in 1983� at which �im� th@ congregation built a s�doWalk �long V�ctaria to conform to that reg�ti��ment. Th� �xisting sanctuary s�ats 330 poopl� and thafr p�rkir� accommodates il0 spac�s, thu�, conPorminq to ordinance� requf��d C� s�pac+� Fe� 3 s�at6j . Th� �dditian involv�s addition�], b�throo�n,�, 3�las�rooms, a rem�adr�led ki°tche�n, stairw$�s, ��d a�ubtipp�rpa8a spaca which a�n k�er us��d �'or s � � parlc.�nc� rQr�u,�re�nent relates only to �he ca9}'��tyiugo�. the ►',�rinc,fp�l a�ucii�toriu�a�" which in this ca�e i� the�sanc�ua w is not beir�g chang�d. Thus, no addit,�onal ��ich Nowevar, thc��v hAv� ,�ddlec� sor�� ill tto portio�s�o�i hef drivew�r�an tt�e w�� side o� th� si�c� where additional Y conven�ently a�1dQd �t some P��king c�mn be I��laon not�d th�� in hi� �2 y��cs e p ri�nce w��h ��cross�ry. �r. hag n�va� ob$@rvad a cohgr�c��nt p�rked an Victor3,�.�hTMe�Q�is�ih� p��k�ng lot �nd t�o d�ivowayg to �Vic�o�ia cio no� h�v� curbin�� Th�y a�e na� r�qu.ired to �dd to the • howa�v�r� �o �dd �ight sp�ca�, sor�e of �wt�icp�g wil ��Y �ropose, s1P��es, at th� nQw err�trance �arving tho �ddition. 1 be har�dic�� the quc�,stian of ho�r much of th� Th�� brings up b@ �urbed. p�x'king lo� and dri�rc�ways �hould �ight- nQw p rking nspecc�s� onit�ed, wo�id provido curbinq �'�r th� ��1g�� hr�d a Y• Mr. Nel�on ncat�d that their of' replacing pm ch o� tho QoP lstr c�:ur�n p�x� �o the �aqu,�rement new ioad stm�nd�rds �elating to snoa� drfFt loa�he imp�c� of the that curbing af th� driveways, with this W� s�g�l�stod $��r°��i�tg• Tha driveway improv�ments ar� re ai y e�Rld�rom Vietor.i,a, �nc� �hus tl�� whr�l�, sit� would pr�s�� a bet�a� u?�lic imr�g�s It �pp�a�s th�ir existin � well, �md aurbing wou].d not n�cessarilyr?�s� r� uiredrainac�e works to assi�� the drainage �unction. q 8t �his time expand the parking lot, that then o ld �be the �time ttoEcus they � entire existinq lot and the p�npos�d additions, rb �h0 2• Nichols (631-0340) • Nancy Nichols is the Manager oi Har Mar present to the staff her revised and imMroved ho was back to landscaping axound the periphery of the Har Marnssite, tae originally required in the development plans a�proved abQut 1960. The existing and prop�sed species are no� drawn to scale, and more accurately shown as they relate �o th� residences the landscaping is dEsig�ed ta protect. Nancy Nic�ols reviewed the overall planning process usQd in this case, including tuur meeting� with th� n�ighbors, wi�h the result of 12 ai �he 17 ne�ghbors app�oving the p1an. She nates th�t the 5 wh� did not approve it were tl:� 5 to �he north ��d th� pe�fphQry a2ong Pascal. One o� th�se is �onna Hof��eigt��, who ha� eent a letter to the Ci��, regu�g�inq �dditianal landscap� opp�aite her res i�dence . W� f n�ormr�d Ms . Nichn� e kht�� we wour �d ch�ck ou� tta� plan �nd the �i�� plan wi�h GQof A��t�rt� l�ndsca�� arct�itc�c�t fxom our staff, and cQnduc� ,� site in�p��tion. �'he C�uncil a�aprov�d tt�e �ddi�ions to H�r M�r wf�h �hea car�ditian th�t tha �te�f revi�w �nci approv� �he ravisaci �.�ndscapc� scr�enir�g �ro�a�e�l. 3. Thomp�on �g��-21�8) Jerry Thomps�n wa� in with I,�xry ,�c��n, w�� pro�os� �o dev�lop a n�w �e�ta body �nd �utomabi�� r�pai� �iu�in��s �ao��a+h��r� i� �os�viller �te ��viQwed z�nir�q r�c�u�.r��c�n�s a�d �t�ndards�. �tr. Thompso� s�e�a�d much p�Qoceupi�r� �ri�h tha �� of t�d�qust� �t� � � af ath�� gQn�y c�,��rol�c ova� �t�i��ior►� �tror� 8�;� spr�}�ing eqt�i�m�nt. 6�e suggastod t��t he �evi�w �h�sar �er�uir�m�nts wi�h ou� Fi�e Marsh�i �� 3,� r�l�t€�� to Ci�tyc cc��s, �red tha� h� cons�,dor� �it�s in Roseuf 11� ar�l�► wh��c� exf�tin� �an#�r�c� �llaw� the u�a. Th� u�o is �aQrm��ad �n th� �_2 d��trict ��e� � ap�e,f �� u�e i� thQ �-3 df�tric�. It wa� he�t un��l eft�x t�a�a �ol�� 1� f� �h,� eg��r,�nc� rao�, tF,�� w� werg i��ora�Qd th�at �h�� i�c tha ��o�a,p,�ort �emil�r �r?�o w�� c�o�ing� bady sc�pa,�r �� their r�a�i��nGe, whic�i l�t�� ba�� a►�t o�' th� i�oodbrfdgc� d�v�lopmant. �ome wil� rc��l� that trio ��aomg�c�n'B �r�re o�� o� tha la�� tol� o�t�. action �g�ainst the �hompsc�n'� at tt�Qir�r��w r��iden�et 1 c��io� wrh�r� thoy �rQ continuit�c� �a tu,p��r ��rs. n 9 s Meln�r ( 375�-3153 ) Ro��ld M��n�r is the Dir�c�car oP c�r►e�ru�tign !o� th� �i�,�r��n- Nucison Dep�rtman� Stor� a�d w�s in wi�h p�xvid Rg��h,e, ��ton stor� arc;h�.�t��t, und Rob�rt �immarman �nei �ohn A�c,b,��, Jr. , b��h o� Bentz, �`t�omp�oM, �nd �icatow Ir��. Archit�cte. �h�y wore in �m present �arel�.r�inary p��ns of �h� , includ3_nq rQnd�red alevationa of �� ex�� rioZ aiY �}�� a�,�ons stPuc:�ur�. Delin��ctions o� t�e �tguctu�e � attractive wi�� a�roposQd ligh� b�iqe color �o be g one ei� � dryvit or � �imilar conetruct�io� mat�rial. the extensive landsc�� ain g of t h e s p a c e be twEar� ti�� r�� ,n� �th� building and very attractive elaborate �reatment of the entrance � detailg on both levels on the west and south side of the structure. The structure is 3 floors with the basemant being co�tiguous to the existing basement of the current store, which will be retained for Dayton's use, In other worde, the stor� w�ll consist of two levels of shopping and t�e basem�nt of two buildinqs (�he new and old store). A portfon af the new store ba8��g�t w�� proposed td be un�xc�vated but tunnels wers included to t�e tw� �tairwayg at th� Pront �ntran�e. T�is left a 3,000 �q. fAot space u�us�d but with expensive walls (and thQ twa tunn��) a�ou�a �t. We suggest�d tha� they si�ply re�ove this dirt, ei�min�� the �Un��ls and simply �xpand the bas�ment Par squar� �oot��e. �hey �xp��s��d concer� reqardf�g the requ�red p�xking ra�io. W� �otad, hawov�r, th�� he ��atlo provi�d�d �n tha p�.an is �., ��c�� pQr �.000, �ah@rea� t�o C�.ty requir�s 5 s�acos p$g 1000. Tk�u�, we ��c�g�$�,�,� �p18� tM�y simply re�oer� that 3, 0�0 s�. ��t of �ix�, 8t�d mak+� �hc� basomar�� pace mora �r+��ract�vc�. �`��t �sc�la�or �yst�m �u� anc� dawn) go��s to thi� basam�nt spac� in �he ��t��' o� �h� ��r�, �n �dditian to the two stairways �t the �ronC �ntr�en��a, Tl��y ar� e�ofr�g te� look sQriou� to this chan�gs. �'h�y �rofi�c! th�t �h��r h�►va �p�rov�d tho Qxte�cior da�ign matarial� �or ti�a r�mp, �nd thr��r f��1 th�t tt�c� buf� color aggrmga�Q eur�'ac� �n t�� r��p► ��tAriel �ia1 go at��rac�iv�ly w�ith th��r e�etarior �inf�h. �. ��nck t4��-91�U� � �s��aa E��nck �ir��t� �t z4�� N. �t. Alk�ans �nd praposog to �o�ov� �i� axisting �ingl,�+ c��r�r�c� which t� � I6x2� faot �truc�ure and rc�pl��cc� it +�,��► � 24x�� oat c��r�c��. �his w�uld r�qu�r�, bec�u�e �� iq�e n��urQ of th� �o��tior� o� tP�� gar�aga wi�h ra��c� �o tt�a ho��a� �n�d �ot, �� s a��r�a�t th�t th�� can b�� t�� dono w��h a t�c� Poot s�c�a� y�g� $pt��k irstc��d o� tt�� nQt-mal �ive. M� h�s �ppz�ov�l Qt 3�fs �ont�.g��ou� n�ighb�or �rho has � SO �'oot s+�tback on th�� ,��,�. ��, eppQ,�r� �t��t tl�i�s would b� � raa�an��le min�ar v�r,�en�c� p��rocc��urca. �. ��rr'��uQ �4�3-�16�j Ca�l Par�aqu+� i�s �ha ��o��ct �tanar�ar fo� �h� Ca�tre� Coa��ani�� o� �he �oa�+d�l� Ai�ll ax�an��on, w�� ,in with D8�►r�is I�Fr�n�e o� t�,� 1�xch.�t��ts �lli�encc? t� ravi�w �Mc� f�nal c��av��,ons o� th� pro�r��ad p�rking r�mp �nc1 tho er�ctc�r��.or m�t��ial. �� bxoe�e�� , ��mple QP �� anmt��i�1 whi�h i� �a a�ggreg�t� �e�c�d bu�� calor�d surf'�� nd � o��=white co�c��t� �ur�acc�. Th€�s� �nat�ri�als wil�l D�� u�ed in p�nel Fa�m (w�,�h �.�' �rc�ovc�� raund �h� p�ne��j witia �h� ex�+�ri¢�r m�t�ri�l, �rl�ich in g�a��a� is mbeu� ��t high iram th� bottom o� th� p�a�ml to th� ts�p o� the ��il. The r�il wi�� ± t�ie ;�r�8 :�8tai1 �s �hAt �ur�entiy� u��3e� cca�stru�tior� at S�authdt�l�, whiGh i� � la�gQ r�Qt�l p�i@c� (an th� axtQrior oP thc� x��tn�) anc� a amal�ar pip� witti n��h whe��a t�ze rz�rnp is aontiguous to the n�w ��}�ton � s stor�. 'I`he r�m�a �ctu�,lly i�t�' � diroctly � con�3.quous, bu� variQs� from 50-�60 �Qc�� aw�y fxam the r�tor�. We appravAe� the �xterio� materi�l which w�, f�el e�ill c�o attr��ti�r€�ly with the existing Dayton's store (the new tenant building) and � the propo�ed Dayton's store dEvelopment reviewed today. 7• Antonozi () Mrs. Antonozi was in with her daughter, Bea, to note that the lan� co�t3guous �o them on the east side, occupied principally by the Phillips Liq�ar Distributing Co. appeared to be excavating �or expangion of �heir parking lo�. We reviewed ttle file of the �pp�aval fram �ctober 3, 1978 for �hat site which stipulates that t�� site develQpme�t �h��l be con�tructed consistent with the eite pla� �nd la�ds�ape plans submi�ted'�. This plan showed a 60 ��o� setback �or the buildin� o� the west side, and a setback of $PPx��ately 90 f�et �or the parking. Much of thia 90 feet is u�ed a�� a st��p ennbankm�nt, $n as much ae the Antonozi land (to th�, w�st) is much higher than t�e parking and loadinq area. The approv�i giv�n for the Pl�illi�s develapn�ent was a variance to the �toor area ratio from .3 to .345. �hus, the proposed expansion �� ct�r�re�tly ur�derkray, is ill�r�al. M�. Jopke and Mr. Heseth will �n�p�+�'� t�i� �it� anc� stap work, and inform the owners and °�cupsnt� of tt�� development conditians agreed ta by the �ppl�cat�t back in 1978e Ig th�y pro�os� to �xpand (as they ap��r�n�ly prQp�►se �o doj �his would have to be handled as a a�aended variar�cc�, �rit�i the ��pro�rfate procec�ures and n�t�t'tcatis�n ot prope��y owners as �a� pursued in 1978. The �ile numbQr f� x14$. �� p � � I � 2� 3� 4� 5 ;. �:��; �� .r p��t= . ��tis'/ � ' = - /, �� l��l`( .�� .��. ,:,�,� �i � • . �r,�s�. �� i �,:�� ,�� . �.. �..:..,_ ��• �i 1 � -� ., ;; �!' \ � � � �� r ____ --- _ ,,� !� � ----_ �' _�.��__-, -_- - _�� ,�- ��I r � , � . /.,y � �, 7 ., � y`� � � � � /�/ ' ,, ;�,, '�j .,�'`�� .�r` �� /' / ,. �,� r" � : _ �'. ' �. i �� ,..� �_ �!: � � I _ � f � ��- I �� ,��i �� ■ � �• �� - �.rR, �� . � -�• • • � . • . . • • • _ . . . ••. ... �► � � � � �'f °^� �8 � �9 `� 2� = 13 �� 14 �I 15 �I 16 � 17 $I 18 � 19 � 20 '� �� G 4 � u u DATE: TO: FROM: M E M O R A N D U M September 18, 1989 Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJEC"�e PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, August 30, 1989 1. l�ueppers (332-2�6�) Bob Kueppers was in with Tim Helger and John Paulson, all of Fine Associates to �eview their revised PUD proposal for the development of an Olive Garden Res�L-aurant on a portion of the remainder of their property in the northeast quadrant of County Road C aand Snel�.ing. The restaurant would have a 280 seat capacity with 122 parking spaces. ��his o�eration out of Orlando, F�orida, is owned by General Mills, and has apparently enjoy�d phenomenal succ�ss as they expand throughoui� the country. T+�e noted that there may be some concern relating to the �ignificant change in �the PiTD which formally indicated a residence hotel as a major user of the remainder of the land. A restaurant has not been previously proposed, and �here are those who express concern over the preponderance of restauxant land use in the community. The land is zoned B-1B, within wl�ich a restaurant over 5�00 sq. feet is a pe:rmit•ted use subject •to a special use pPrmit for site plan review. The proposed restaurant has an extensive lounge area, �wit� a full liquor licens�, and based on their reputa�ion for considera:ble success, we questioned the adequacy of the parking gropo:�ed. �ti'� suggested that they analyze the interior spaces includin� waitii�g capaci��y, Iounge space, and seating capacity a� it: relates t�� the Rc�.►seville ordinance. We further suggestda that. if this r�estaurar��t is to built, that evidence r�lating to tr.eir act�ual r�eeds ba,�ed on their experience, would be help�ul irre�spective to conformance to zoning requirements. Mr. Keel reviewe;i the status of the land divisions as related to the past developmei�t and Fine Associates intent to file a preliminary plat. It is obvious that if the development is to proceed, that a completion of the interior circulation road system will be necessary. This will then commit the remainder of the lanci to a definable site, subject to the exact location of the sou�heasterly most entrance off the service road. TrTe concluded, therefore, �that the submission of a preliminary plat would �e appropriate subject to change on exact road alignment prior to filing the final plat. They propose to proceed with their application for likely review by the Planning Commi.ssion at their November 1st regular meeting. 2. LaSalle (636-0373) Clarence LaSalle was in with Gene Schwank�r, k�oth of whom are residents and owners of condos in the 1��0 unit Hamline House Condominium, across from the Hamline Cent�r. They said that some � of their condo owners (and members of the association) desire �4 sell several lots on the north and south end oi the block they occupy, for the purpose of getting additional income. They no�e that many of the residents ar� �O�hotos � nd nf rmed hem that reviewed the zoning maps and air p the pr�perty was originally split into two zones, half of it being zoned R-3 and the other half was being zoned R-2. Mr• Billy Whitesman, the developer of the land, did not desire to build duplex units, and agreed to utilize the de�si�y in the R-2 district to build the density allowed in the R-2 area in the apartments and retain �n area to ansit�onhtoethe� si gle�family open space so as to proviae a tr residential area tha� exists in these three directions. T.ie neighbors agreed to this approach and iherefare, a zoning line was redefined keeping a strip of R�2 1��V ded for a ttotalSof 150 south sides of �he block� which then p units in acc�rdance with the density thus allawed. W� �uggested, therefore, that to change this density or to sell off any property for purposes of additional developmen� would not be in keeping with that agreement wi�h the neighbors, and would in fact exceed the density in accordance Wouldt not X be lan app opriate suggested, therefore, that th�s approach. Mr. Keel measured the open space to the north and south ends of the lots as indica�Ced on tYieir photos, and no�ed that there is in � fact insufficient ground to develop any single family lots in these areas. I�Ir. LaSaZ1e and Mr. Schwanker were ple�sed at the information received, suggesting that the association would not pursue additional development. We in..formed them that if they desired, members of the staff could meet with members of their association if necessary to explain zoning and density regulations. 3. Hanner (835-3504) Todd Hanner is with Northland Forest Products, Inc., a broker and producer of hard wood lumber in the Minnesota area. He notes that a significant part of their hardwood prefinished boards are used primarily for finished work, come from a company out of Iowa, and they are considering moving this operation to the Paper Calmunsen building in Roseville. He inquired as to any efforts that �ould be put forth on the part of tk�e City to assist them with this endeavor. We referred him to Mr. Waldren who informed him of several possible state programs which may be utilized. M�. Walelron requested tha�k Mr. Hanner prepare a more detailed analysis of the propasal, and then consult with him withinpp yeek� or two so that Mr. Waldron could assist him further in a 1 in for SBA or other funding. � 4, Lund Tom Lund was i� to review the potential for getting a minor � variance to his side yard setback for the construction of an accessory double ga�ag� for h�s lot a the northeas� corner of Marion Street and Minne��ta Avenue. His lot measures 135X150 and is contiguous �o the Marion Street right-of-way (west side) which is not built, but has a pathway to Materion Park. Mr. �und gropo�es to reuse the existing tuck under garage for residence purposes and to build another garage �o the west of the existing house. We reviewed the plans, offering some suggestions for driveway and p�destrian access, relati_ng to the preservation of some existing mature trees on the site. Tt appeared that the proposal, involving the building of the garage on the side yard and the reduced setback to the Marion Street right�of-way (not used for a street) would be appropriate. 5. Dunn (829-3414) Paul Dunn from the Welsh Company, wa� in to inform us that the� have purchase agreements with all of t�he 2�2 single family homeowners in �he Bol�tead's adclition area (northeasterly of Rosedale) and that they propose to close on these properties in October. Their objecti.ve then is to start grading Febru�ry 1, 199a or as soon thereafter as weather permits. He desired, therefore, to review their progress toward conforming to the 19 conditions that were attached ta the Council approv�l of their development program. It appeared that all 1g conditions can be met with progress on some of �he princip�l concerns as follows: • 1. The state is processirtg the paperwork for tneir E.urnover of the service road right-of way to the City. 2. A written agreement has been obtained from Equitable Life �nsurance Co. for access across their narrow sli�rer of land at a point approximately m��d point between the interchange ramps and American Street. This agreement is subject to final �eview by both parti�s but appears to be eminent. The Margolis people are not in support of vacating America Street as a pubic right-of-way, though they might concur subject to potential guarantees on the part of the developers to assume certain liabilities pertaining to potential maintenance and costs. Mr. Dunn also inquired as to potential for tax increment assistance. We noted that expenditures of such monies are more supportab�le if rel��ed to specific unusual development costs such as mitigation for poor soils, etc. Mr. Dunn indicated their intent to pursue evolving solutions to the conditions and preparation of site plans. He noted a considerable degree of success in lining up tenants, and that is why they are definitely proceeding with the plan in accordance with the conce�t approved. ` 6. LeTendre (633-6312) George LeTendre was in with Fred Commers and Juris Kuriskis, � architect on the Post Office site, south of County Road B-2. They had previously discussed the concept of building a light metal framework to substitute for the opaque wall tower that was proposed and approved at the northea�t corner of the Post Office building. This is an attempt ta avoid the implications of the affect of snow dr_fts required in building codes today when walls are extended above a flat roof line. We had previously reviewed a drawing by Mr. Kuriskis at our office and we noted that it appeared to be light and flimsy, and seemed to detract frAm the level of quality and prestige of the Post Office structure as originally proposed. It appears obvious, if there is to be enough mass in the tower, to look good, it would create a snow fence effect and they would still be stuck with the snow drift load requirements. We suggested, therefore, th�t they abandon this approach and develop the building in accordanc� with the plans as approved. We reviewed with them t�e structural approach to reinforcing the bar joists, which appeared to be a simple matter in terms of reinforcing the raof system to accommodate t�� additional calculated load. They agreed to pursue completion of the plans and construction in accordance with the approved concept. Th�y noted further that rec�nt negotiations with the Post Office have gone well and they are very near to comple�ing the bidding and p�econstruction pxocess. Construc�ion is anticipated to start on September 15. � �. Nordquist (�ss—a000) Joyce Nordquist was in with Janice Koh�, who propose �o develop the Trapp pr�p�rty at the northeast corner of County Road C-2 and Old Highway 8, in addition �o the contiguous p�operty to the north. They hope �o deveiop six single family lots on this property and have been in touch with Mr. Trapp regarding a potential p�rchase. They reviewed with Mr. Keel pot�ntial soil conditions and avai3abili�y of utilities. We noted the City's interest in developing some sort of town housing with a higher density, in as much as part of the l�nd is zoned business and is s�own an the comprehensive plan as a busi�ess site. �e �ot�d, however, that if they could make six singl� family Iot� wnrk, that �he City would not likely oppose that, in as inuch as most o� the iand is now zoned singTe family. We suggested that they keep an open mind with respect to the type of develo�ment, and that they �ork closely with the neighbors and the staff in coming up with a workable solution. The major impediments here appear to b� land price and sail conditions. Dependin� on their abili�y to buy the land from Mr. Trapp, this development proposal, may or may not proceed. 8. Kotoski (868-8920) � Richard Kotoski owns a single family lot at the southeast corner of Caunty Road B and Victoria. The lot measures 128x175 �eet, + r and after an additional �en feet of dedication for both County Road B and Victoria, would result in a par.cel of 118x165 feet. � There is an exist�ng house on the north end of the lot and it appeared that this land could thus be divi�ed into a 90 foot and a 75 foot 1ot, which wauld be reasonably in scale w�th the contiguous properties in the area. Mr. Keel suggested that he obtain a survey of the �and including exact location of the house so that i� can he ascertained as to how the land might be developed, in praviding one additional building site to the south. This property would appear to be a likely candidate for a routine lot split. �� 8c9 Q �0 B ttlS C lJi4 D v �s E � F css4 G � H n�v I roev J urv K :� P� C 1' R� � � 5 3 � 4 g �� .. � . ... _ o� d - - d : > •• � 2 - r �J � 6 `� 7 =i A c :I � n P _': t' _ � a a rt v �oao 2000 1��7�t s '� a "=, �c � is i; i4 f; 15 :� 16 � 17 �I 18 k 19 � 20 'I � • �� ml t/8 1/4 112 � �� s : • � DATE: TO: FROM: August 28, M E M O R A N D U M .;. Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, August 23, 1989 1, Warner (481-0370) Marvin Warner owns a hous� on, th on i�i e S�kreet�RsouthtofeWewers southerly most of three fronting t�e guil�ing Department for Road. He has been cited recently by g�cently, his selling automobiles and boats in his fron� yard, neighbor, Mr. Anderson, came t o ee�� us ��mP w��rg now�u tates conditions on his neighbor � pr P Y that he proposes (along with his two neighbors) to rezon� all the properties to B-3 so that h� can s�1X ��in dCthe pr cedurga for live there as well. We patiently P rezonit�g and the City's 30 year �p��le�Y 1i This +pox.i �� hasn�bee� the Roseville sid� af Rice S successfully carried out over that �eriod of time. Mr. Warner exh�bited a very truculent a�titude, and thou�h we suggested that �azoning in this CitY, and mo�t City°s in the metro area, without a�p�ci�ic developmen� proposal fo� new or redevelopment, is very difficult �nd l.i,ke].y not to Qucce�d. We noted too, that a u�e c� e�a� il eu code,ri Hopeful y,�cherwill use is not alTowed in th drop thia approaGh �nd "cl�an up his ac�"• 2. Krank (339-4200) Ron Krank, architect.�aith KKE, waa in wi�h Jim Price and Wes Rydell, the ].�tter being the pro�osed �pera��r of the new Saturn Agenc� fox' St• Pau�l (J�.m Lupient ha� the Mitrneapolis Agency) . This is a n�w General I�otars P�'��t�9e �� d wH11 re earchednc�and are apparent�.y being carefu�.1y seiected an wi�h a conscious attempt to p� urOe rev i us�conference Qwith Mra techni�al imaqe. We reviewed P R�rdell, noting the City's stronq concerns about having a d�velopment appropriate for �this site with an imaqe iaette� than a ��typical car agen�y". Mr. KranDc pxesented a preliz�inary site plan which indica�ed quite an a�tractive buildinq to b� done in white an�l dark glass matching the ��ice structure done by th� Everest Company ta the northwest. The plan includes sub�tantial lanciscaping arid an attrac�ive car display area. We suggested that the setback ta County Road C could be increased on part of the site to enhance the image, arad mitigate a point near the center of the sit� where a driveway closer than the normal 15 feet would be necessary (clo�er ta the right-of-way). This is a 4.8 acre site with 20,552 sq, fe�t of building with 308 parking � stalls. A typical agency of this scale might have up to 500 spaces. Less is proposed due to the extensiye use of lan� for landsca�ing and the angled layout. The front of the building is orie�ted towards the office structure across the intersection of C and Long Lake Road. We reviewed procedures and requirements in as much as car agencies are a speGial use in the B-3 distriGt. We suggested �hat rezoning would be most appropriate rather th�n to amend the B�4 use. We agreed that it would be �mportant that the development proposal, when prepared, should exceed the B-4 �equ�rements as to landscaping, site planning, building materials, etc. so as to maintain the level of quality considered appropria�e for this key location. 3. �orton (484-9000) Gary Nor�on is with the Yo�kton Company w�o was in to d�scuss the City's concerns r�lating �o thQ changing o.f candi�ions at t�� Kinderberry Daycare Center at the e4utheast corner Qf Y�exingto� �nd Gran�aiew. Tfle C�t� has rec�nt�y received c�mpla�nts fr�m neighbors rega�ding the air compressor which orfg�nally �a� proposed to be insid� the building. This cvmpressor i� �o� screened vi�ually with a woad fence, bu� �hi� request do�s �o� �itigate to any degree the nois� problem. The �CA ha� �es�ed and found �h� night time OGH lev�T to b� 54-56 (wf�h th� co�pressor running) and up to 58-59. Th� m�ximum for �v�ni�g hours is 44. Mr. No�ton noted a specf�icaticn �cr a��d � �ancrete block that can be used for noise mi�ig$ti�n. �� euggest�d that Mr. Norton inParm his boss, �rr�► �e, gh�t �hi� naise candition must bo correct�d, It was not�d, t�a, �h�t �h� aperators of the �its have �xpanded a pi�c� �� e ��t� �o includ� a play area on the north Bide wh�re th� ori�ina� p18n appr�val was �o maintain g��es on open �pace. Li�e�is�, th�re have be�n deliveries �n this nQrth sid� whic� are �ot allow��e �e a�so rev�ewQd the original �ppro��d land��n�� 1�� Q � copy t� Mr. Norton ta conduct his a�n ch�c� as wh�t ��t�� t�e l�nd�caping h�s �een completed. �e r�que3t�d th�� Mr. Mor�a� pess these concerns �own to Larry L�e ��r imm��i�te act�on� Bo �� ta confarm to th� original pl�nned unit deve�op��nti �s app��V��, 4. Palma (484-8161) Robert �nd iCim Palma live at G55 Terra�e �x�iv��, which is on �he curue of Terraco Drive, westerl� of Dale Stre�t. �"hey hav� a l�t 180 feet l�y 8S feet in width and propose to ac�d �o t�eir� �x�,s�i�g aecessory 26x27 foot c�arage (s€�pa�ra�ed fr,om the ho�se) �n additional 26x2� �ee�. We, explair�8�i that �n acc�ssory garag� can�ot exceed 1000 sq, tget in are�. The to't�l n�w gar�ge Wouz� exce�d 1404 sq, feet. Mr. iteel poin�ked ou� tt�� on these sets o� lotsr there �� a power lin� e�sement wh��h �till appar�n�].y preverit the expansion oE the g�raq� in as much �s �he ea�emen� line appears �o be immedia�tely con�iguou� (northwest side) of the � existing garage. It was not�d too, that the ho�ase h�s a square footage of 1050 sq. fe�t. We advised against �uild3.ng a garag� larger than the house in as much as it would b� very difficult to � get the investment back. We also noted that such large garages tend to be occupied by businesses of the future and that is why Roseville and most City's in the �etropolitan area restrict a garage size to maximum of 1000 sq. feet. We suggest�d that he �heck his dee� regardi�g the easement and its loc�tion, an� that he abandon his plans to build a garage larger than 1000 sq. fee�. � �� . Amdahl (339-4200) Jack Amdahl is an architect with KKE and was in with the Vice Pres�dent of development for Rainbow Foods to review the �ta�u� of their proposed changes for their site at the north��t cnrnex of Fernwood and I�aprenteur. We re�iewed a list af chang�a propose� ineluding: 1. They will �uild a new five foot walk nor�th a� L�rpenteus Av�nu� on a 6 loo� ease��nt to b� dedicat�d to ths Cit�. 2. The� will build a new retainin� w�ll using ��t�ne blocks �o corr�ct the a�eep�st �� t�e parking candi�i�ns ju�t na�t� of �arpe�t�ur an �h� w�a� �i�e �f the sit�. 3. Th�y will �onst�uct � new fi�e foot walk �� fi.h� northe�sterly �id� af �h� �i�e to the �ei�hb�rh�od a� ��quest�� by t�� ighba�s. 4. A nsw sign wiil, be bu;ilt wit'h m to�al ag 2�Q eq. fset whereas the� sic�n cariqin�� ly m�a�rovedl with m�ar3�an�g that ax$S�a tcx�ey f.s 327 sq. ��et� 5. Th�y wi l i �on�ctruc+� new wo� �cre�na �o s�,reen th� backs of th� $p�ske� ba�e,� tha�t p►ro j�act �rom �he �rest w��l of th� etru��ur� (not in �the orig�nal propo�a�l)� �6. They w�ll �tucco tfi�e �mtirc� bu�.ld3ng axc�pt th� lo�� pcartion on �he north�r�.� half on t�te ea��t side and a parki.on o� tta� north e�ide wh�r� ths b�ildir�g ie subst�nti�lly b�law grad�. 7. t�ew catc2� ba�ine will be co�atru�t�ci �s r�comt�end�d by �a�rl Kc��l nea� the �ou�h��ste�� s�rne� of the site. 8. �l� ac�rcaed the roo�ing equipnnc�nt on tfle top woui�i be di.fficul� tc� scr�en. They pre�ent8� cro�s sec�i�ns indicating the ci�gree to whieh th�� are �isibl� c��ich occus� at th� r�Qrthwest �orn�r a� �h� si�e and from the apartm�nt par}cinc� lot to the nor�ri. The n�w �'�cade to th� soutk� sic�e o� the building wi1�. scxeen ti�e building �ram Larpenteu�. �. Th� parkinq lot will be regraded so ttaat the maximum slope will be 4� {previausly 7�). i10. New landscaping is propvs�d wi�h additional trees that meet NSP's requi��ments (where there is an �verhead line) and clustering of sp�cies a�ong the Larpenteur side. It was agreed that th� changee proposed met most, if not a�l, of the Planning Commiseion's concerna relating to th� rede�elopm�nt o� thfs s�te. It is obvious that a great �eal more mon�� will be expended, and it w�u1d appear that the en� re�ult will be a �ubstan�iax impr�vement over t�e exi�tfnq development. All t�e parking area �ill be curbed w�th n�w curbing and built to �onfoam ta the rec�ired aetbacke. 6. Reinhardt (484-6013j Ken Reinhard� was in �ith �is fin�l �ians �or appl�cation purpose$ to r�zone on� oi �h� gour lat� �ha� he ow�� wriere he �roposes to ad� tri� �ourt� o� a�aries of four gpa�tm�nt building�, �ach wi�h �l�von �ni��, �s �o� will recall, he was in a shor� time �qo �ith a prQlimina�y r�vi�w ai h�s propas�i, ��h is basica�ly ta conetxuct a�ourth s�rc�ctur� �o match ��Ct�� e �xi�t�ng thr�a �hat h� �wns �ow. �r. Re�nhard�� building� hav� a�w8y� baen extr��o�y wo11 ��nt�i�Qd, �nd �t ap��ars that dev�i�pfng th� �ourth in �h�� se�i�� f lots will b� �n th� public inter�s�. �� ot�d oux �oncerns r�latinq ta ��a dedicat�on of �n ad��io�� l� �ee� oF r�ght-o�-�a� on Odrle � Str��t on a co�n�r lot wh�re hl� third bui�ding uA� �uil�, but tha. dedication w�s not �oh�, N� pro�o��s that if h� ie not +e��ired to b�ild � aid�w�lk, �� wo��d d�d�cat� th� l0 �e�t o� right-o�-�a� for �h� curr�nt praQos�d la� Qlu� �ha corn�r �o�. MonBt�ril�, this wou�d a�p��r �o b� ��oo� d�� or th� C�ty �value �or va�ue), though t��t is ��m�thing Por the Fianning �ammi��ia� �nd Counci� �a ��cid�. �� not�� t�et �� d�walk �g r��u�rod (f�r �h� �aurth lotj, h� woul� �raP�r ta ��dtcate the �oney r�th�� th�n h�ve a eidow�lk in f��nt �! only o�a Q� �� four l�ts. 7• ��bb c53�-36��) RichArd Wmbb, Davaiv�ae� ot thQ eeni�r ci�izQns housing project �n Victori� at th� aouth�restc�rly shora o� Owa��o, �as in wi�h 0t11 Smark fro�n Libert�r �t�a]. E�t�t� Comga�ny, �ric Engh, Project Man�r��r, �r�d St�ve �ur�c�i Prom �1r�,id-Eln�ss Archftects o��ice, Thoy d�acu�s�d ��gn which thc�y i�8v� construct�,d �ear �hc� boulavard an Vi,ctoria w}�ich i€� 3 f�et high by 13.6 fe�t �,ong, placed one �oot o�f the ground. �hi�s ground eign is but s P�w feet from the xightao�..W�Yd and wa$ bvilt, they claim, because oP the miscommunication b�tween �th�m and tho sign cornpany �hat ��ed it: They.► are s��ki�� var.iance to thQ loc�t�on of the s�gn which woulci narm�lly be requi�ced t4 be 30 �ee� back from the public x�ight-of�-way. �his sign location may be appropri��e �n � view of its sma11 scale in as much as �he poten�ial ior sign location on this si�� is limited due to the shallow depth of the site which resulted in variances to the setbacks of the driveway � and parkinq area. They also propoae to develop a fenced in enclosure for the trash contain�rs �t the �outhwes� corner of the site, This would pl�ce it within a few feet of the Victoria Street right-of-way a�d contiguous to the park. W� suggested that this is � a� appropr�ate place for a dumpater, and that it would have a aeriou$ delete�ious etfect on the aesthetic quality oi the site. We noted that thay have don� a fine building and it would be a shame ta �pof 1 it with a'�trash pimple« at the entrar�ce ofi the pub�ic rfght-of-w�y, We suqq��ted tt�at the� put the trash wher� originelly propoeed, cQntiguou� to the garage entrance, connected to any p�rt ot the original s�ructure. They agreed to build � t�aBt� enclo�u�re �a proposecl �nd would proceed only with ti�e �°equ��sted var�ance ior the �ign locetiot�. � � . , � � �� 2� 3'� 4� 5 6�I �=1 a�I s sl io 1 i i �I i2 �I is -1 � s o 0 __ � xc� � � _ ,.� ��' ��"r��-r I ,� �•.. � Q, II 14 �� 15 �� 6 �� I7 °� IS 7 19 ~� 20 '� , a� ,�� l f r t, s:: 1 B r � r� i F� � "�i 'c' wc � j �z �� C C � � � � �; _ cne D �� r��s � . �� E i a .,,� ^ • j aUl [ii2 I . F � � � ; ... c. oo f (a-rr- L/ '' % i t � -� • � _ ..��. H t' '�~ _� � n�v � — �--• a r � � �o� ��- :� , .. �:� �� . : o� , �� . . � o c�� ° - � o��C � o ', r + � ` �Q�(� K 1 I o 2 i� �J � � � � 3 4 � � � � 5 � 6 ,� 7 Planning 1.�genda tter�s City Planning Cornmission Roseville , Minnesota rc o �oo0 2000 � '�� • � �� si�a �ia �iiz � '' " c, ' :� sse � L � � �o �; i i �; i2 � _, - -i • • �� ., :.� io �q � � II� 18 i� 19 � 20 '� � � • • � DATE: TO: FROM: M E M O k A N D U M August 28, 1989 Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING UFFICE HOURS, August 16, 1989 1. Nordquist (788-2000) Joyce Nordquist was in with Janice Kohn who have done �eveloping, building, and realty work principally in Minneapolis, picking up parcels from the MCDA (Minneapolis Community Development Agency) developing single family lots. They are interested in the property at the northeast corner of County Road C2 and 01d Highway 8, a portion of which is owned by Jim Trapp. This is the property that was recently proposed a�ain for a service �tation and turned down by the City. They claim to have a purchase agreement for the property to the north and are interested in developing the total pro��rty. We discussed the land use potential emphasizing the prospects for multi-family housing, perhaps in the form of town houses. Mr. Keel informed them regarding the potential soil condition problem and we discussed the status and past difficulties on the part of other parties to purchase the Trapp property. They propose to proceed to attempt to put the property together. We noted that there are no public subsidies available, though some assistance on soil correction (if this proves a severe problem), may be available if the proposed project has significant economic potential. 2. Gregory (332-5544) Arnie Gregory was in with Tom Hirley to discuss the potential development of the mall strip center at the �outheast corner of their site, north of City Hall (Reiling pro ert a preliminar site p Y)• They produced Y plan indicating what appeared to be a very attractive building with approximately 19,560 sq, feet (20 000 sq. feet approved) with a hip roof as ori inall � g y proposed with brick and stucco, treated the same all around the building, and with a car wash on the back side of the service station site. It appeared the circulation, parking, and basically all will work well, reserving a 75 foot square parcel at the southeast corner for soils correction and ventilation. They note that the deal has been made with Reiling to handle the financing of this correction and are proceeding with that process. Mr. Reiling has agreed- to take the dirt off the site for aeration. They are going to prepare more detailed plans for staff review next weex. 3. Nichols (631-0340) Nancy Nichols, Manager of Har Mar, was in with the plant listings proposed for the buffer zone around the center that we discussed this week. We requested that the planting plan be revised and • improved to indicate the finished planting plan and drawn to scale for staff review as required for the Council approval. We suggested that a plan of this scale and importance should be accurately and professionally drawn in as much as the previous plan was more of an inventory with symbols drawn out of scale indicating removing and/or existing and proposed planting. Ms. Nichols agreed that she would prepare such a drawing and listing of plant species, size, and number in accordance with the normal standard procedures. 4. Amdahl (339-4200) Jack Amdahl, architect with KKE, was in with Dennis Crowe, Development Manager for Rainbow, to review improved adjustment improvements to the proposed Rainbow remodeling at Larpenteur and Fernwood. We reviewed four options for improving the grade on this site and indicated their intention to develop one, costing about $25,000 -$30,000, with a retaining wall near the southwesterly corr�er of the site where the grade is the steepest. Mr. Keel inclicated it would make significant differences. This will result in a slight loss of parking capacity, approximating 4 spaces less than what exists today. We also noted that they will install the appropriate catch basins at the driveway locations in accordance with City policy. � They propose to stucco the entire building around the top, but we request not having stucco on the rear portion on the east side and a part of the north side. Stucco would be the same color around the building, with a dark curb base to match the 18 inch base of rock face block on the front of the structure. The remainder of the front will be done with their standard green panels similar to their newest stores. These stores can be seen in Maplewood (near Maplewood Mall), at 694 and Minnehaha (in Oakdale) and the newest store at 55 and 18 (in Plymouth). They propose to put in a new trash receptacle inside an overhead door (inside the building) and eliminate the compactor. They also propose to build the new sidewalk along the south side of the site and build the proposed walkway to �he northeast, through the fenc�, for neighborhood convenience as requested. They will adjust the landscaping to put in small decorative trees where there is a concern about power lines on the west side of the building, and they will be preparing a new landscape plan far grouping of t�ees along the south side to replace the minimal five trees in the original plans. They also propose to screen the sound boxes that project from the west wall of the building with a V-shaped louver and landscaping. They will prepare a revised landscaping plan for the west side, and will eliminate the service road on that side of the building as previously proposed. • We discussed and looked at the screening of the mechanical equipment on the top. The building, being near 30 years old, has a minimum roof design load and, therefore, no screening can be � done that would reduce any snow drift. These units are not visible, �xcept when you get up on the high ground, northwesterly of the site. It appears that the units can best be handled (under these circumstances) by painting the units without trying to build a screened fence of any type. In this case, it appears that any attempt at total screening will require rebuilding the roof, and in fact may attract more attention than the existing condition. With respect to the signage, they propose to replace the existing sign for which a variance was issued for the site at 303 sq. feet. This is in lieu of a total of 600 sq. feet allowable in the district with 3 pylon signs. They will redesign the sign and keep the signage within the existing allotment. They also propose to provide new lighting on 35 foot poles with 2 foot candle power throughout the site, utilizing 8 fixtures similar to those used at the new Byerly's store made by "Spark Lane". In summary, it appears that the adjustments proposed are consistent with the desires expressed by the Planning Commission, with the result that the site plar� and improvements will be substantially enhanced from the previously considered proposal. 5. C&W We reviewed with staff the progress toward obtaining the right of way from the olc� C&W site, west of Fairview, with the extension � of "Twin Lakes Road". We will be contacting Tim Keene regarding the status of the offer projected by the City for the acquisition of the 3.13 acres of riqht-of-way. 6. Reinhardt (484-6013) Ken Reinhardt was in with a proposal to build the fourth of four, eleven unit buildings, originally proposed on his site west of Dale Street, south of County Road C. The proposed structure will be exactly like the last s�ructure that was built at the immediate corner to the north. The structure will have eleven units, with eleven garages and thirteen outside stalls. He submitted a site plan showing the dis�osition of z�ll four sites that he has constructed over a periud af time. The first kauilding was built in 1963, the second in 1968, the third in 1975, and he proposes to start the fourth this fall. He had a life tenancy on this site which has just termina�ed this year. The current structure on the house, a�ingle family residence, is in bad shape and should be removed. We reviewed the procedures and �equirements, noting the need for a ten foot requirement for right-of-way along Dale Street to which he agreed. He also proposes to place money in escrow for the sidewalk requiremen�. Mr. Reinhardt will proceed with his application for rezoning (from R-1 to R-3A) and approval for variances to the parking setback in as much as the parking area will be combined with the Scontiguous properties to the north and south. 7. Nguyen (920-4666) • Hai Nguyen was in to review the E�uddhist Temple proposals for expansion now under construction at their site north of Minnesota Street, easterly of Dale. We reviewed a suggested revision to his parking lot layout which would provide for more space and a better drop off facility. This will work well in conjunction with his proposal to move the present walkway to the new structure approximately 7 feet to the south. This will result in the retention of some existing trees on the site which are a considerable asset. He will prepare a revised site plan indicating the way in which this will be done, which will then be subject to staff review. We also discussed the parameters for a potential Buddhist statue to be erected on the site in their front yard are�, noting that such a symbol would fall within the 50 sq. foot criteria for institutional use in this residential district. 8. Auguston (220-0366) Ralph Auguston lives at 2902 Arona and has a residen�e with a single car garage which he believes is 1 foot from his north praperty line. This is a 75 foot lot and he proposes to replace that existing garage with a 2 car, 24x24 foot garage which will be buil� further ta the easterly (rear) end of his lot. Mr. Jopke suggested that it appears that the new lot could be built � on the site without a variance (5 feet is required). We sketched the basic layout with a hard stand area in front of the garage which we suggest�d �ould be at least 36 feet from the house. It appears that this layout will work we�l on the site and t�at no variance will be necessary. 9. Diesch (484-8635) Stan and Darlene Diesch were in to discuss the possible division of their lot on Owasso, wher� it appears that they have a potential for expanding a lot to a maximum of 1I5 feet as measured at t�e building line. This expansion would occur if they were able to acquire a triangular part of the contiguous lot to the north. Looking at several optional layouts for land division, it appears that the property wo�ld be too sm�11 to successfully accomplish a division that would be near the lot size rec�uirements fnr the City and particularly for the lakeshore district. We reviewed criteria and historically developm�nt of the lo�s on the lake, concluding that a division for this property would not li�ely �e workable. 10. Gerstner (339-4200) Tom Gerstner, architect with KKE for the Rosedale �a=ketplace development (southwest corner of Gounty Road B2 and Fairview), was in to r�view possible adjustments in the parkin� arrangement � for the site. Up to 50� of the stal�s are desigriated for . ,� ' d th t � compact, in accordance with the ordinance. It appeare a these compact stalls could be eliminated by adjusting the overall , stall widths 4-5 inches, producing what appears to be a more workable arrangement from 8.6 to 8.8 feet per stall. Noting that all of Rosedale was adjusted several years aga to 8-1/2 feet, it appears that the adjustments here would be more practical and workable with the elimination of the 8 foot compact stalls except in zemote parking area at the far southeast corner of the site. The result would be no reduction in total parking spaces, in accordance with the plan approved by the Planning Commission and Council. � � � � I � 2 a 3� 4� 5 ac� A � 8 � C� D � u �s � E � � � F ups G uis . � H ' nw �� 1� I J � ulc K :� I� 2� 3� 4 4 � � =. 7 =� F1 � 9 k BC] � 11 ' 12 � 1� �. CC � 85 �. �fi = C7 � 1� �� 20 '. Pianning /�genda 1#ems City Planning Gommission Rosevil(e , Minnesota r� o �000 z000 �� ml 1J8 V4 t/2 .- �s s ,� �. _ .� _ _ _� Y �0 ?' f t r' �2 ?` t� 1; �4 � i5 iy i6 i� t7 $� �8 � �9 ti 20 ={ • � DATE: August 17, TO: FROM: M E M O R A N D U M .:. Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, August 9, 1989 1. Gregory (332-5594) Arnie Gregory of the Can-Am Corporation was in to rev�iew their current revised plans for the development of the small strip cen�er at the southeast corner of their site. They propose to leave a square 75 foot by 75 foot corner whict� w�ulci be ventilated in accordance with the PCA r�quirements related to th� clean up of the fuel spills on this old gas station aite. They propose to buiicl a building with the hip roaf as a�pprovQd in the original PUD, though the building will be slightly small�r �han the 20,000 sq. feet approved. They are reviewir�g saays in which � ca� wash can be added to the servic� etatior� (par� of the oriqinal appraval� in a m�nr�er so that it wi11 work and confoxm 1to the origir�al b��ic conce�t. We are� er�coura�ginq tit�t� fia look �at placing t3�e $tructure to the w+est (back� s�de o� tt�e se�vic� sta�ion. �a also reviewed other d�tail� oE the d�sfgn, ogtional builc�ing mate�-ia1� (}�rin�ip�].ly brickj , p�r}�in� reguir�men��, and access and �c�ress. it �ppears that this pro�oaal, if developed in accordance with thQ cancepts discussed, wi1;1 be a ve�.-y attr�ctiv� �nd in ke�ping with the PUD approved pl�n. 2. Bal�it (4��-5491) �ez�a�d Bolcit lives at 2�64 St. Alba�ns StrsQt �eouthea�s� corn�r of St. 1�Ibar�s and Grandvi�w) . He pro�aoso� a minor v��i�nc� of 18 Pee� 9 inche� instead o! th� requi�ed 30 E�c�t to fih� south Bid� o�' his lot, wher� h� propase� an add�tion to �ti� qaragm�, g� app�ars thet due ta the canligur�tion c�f �h� 1ot, thr�t the�e ie na other way to gxpand th� garac�e an the sit�, ane� �h� propQ��d location will r�ot havo � del�t��iou� effect or� t�is con�iguou� ��ighbars. We revimwc�d �roc�dure� and r�equir�ment� �ar a minor v�riance applic�ation which Mr. Boldt ir�t�rnds to �u�$�xe. Tt�ig c8�e is �lso helped b�r th� Pact ithat th� gar�tqs i� 28 f�et frotm his easterly paro��rty lin� (10 fee� required), and �hus c�i11 have relativ�ly 1 ittle impa�ct in th�t directior►. �ii� r�eighbor� qarage is on th�C side of the lot (we�t�rl�), �nd the �earest sirua�ur� �o the south is also hia neighbors garage, thus it would appes�° that this minar variar�ce wi�l be � reasonable solu�ior�. 3. �tndahl (339-4200� Jack Amdahl, architect with KKE was in with D�nnis Crawe, Vice � Presiden� of Developm�nt Por Rainbow Foods Ine. We rgvi.ewed the crite�ia and cancern as expr�ssQd by the Planning Commi�sion at their last regular meeting at which tim� t��ir applic��ion �or approval of an expanded stor� off Larpente�r was tabled to the • September meeting. Mr. Keel noted tha� on site �to�-m drain�� 1d be provided northerly of the driveway sloping to Larpent�� Averau� a�d th�t analysis of the grades a� th� si�e natinq �he probl�r�, and possible solutions. It recognized, how�vex, that the r�gx�ding of the entire parking lot may not �ustify iti at this time, �houg� doi�g so would certainly improv� parki�g condi�iong for thei� customer�. They c�arified that �hey prapos� �� r�pair th� parking iot in its entire�y, put an a� 2��t � one inch a�pM�l� lift, with a schadulQd seal coating withi� one ar �wo ye�x� with a non skid surface r�ock {sugg�ested by Mr. K�+el) . C9n th� sulajec� of w�1ks, ti�ey agreer� to in�tall a r��w sidl�w�lk �lo�g thc� en�ix� Tength oP I�arpen�our Rv�nve ane� tha� th�ry woUld provie�e a 6:�oo� eaeement f'car a 5�oot wa1}� or� the p�riva�e pXop�a�c�y �ide of �h� righ�-of way. �'h�y propuse �o cons�ruc� a w�lkwa�y �rrci � c�at� as r�ques�ke� %�r ��e neig�bore through th� �'c�r�c� or� t�� a�� s�dc� a�' �h� sit+�. Or� tt�� no��h s�d� p�hc�y propase a ceoa�n v�,�ct� gr�u�d c��r. I�e �ugg�a��t�d tha� �hay dstail th�,� �x�r�, ir� �� mu��t� a� � r��a��nir�g wa1� i� p�a�a�od noa� �o w�r��ra ��ir� dri+raway �t �hf� la�ati�rt. i1� �pp��rs �hat �h� oxisting chain link g�n�n on th� re�gt�a ��e�� of ��e pxapert� �s in �xcel l�nt �h��a� anri �rf � X �� r�t�9.n�d. W+� ac��r�ac� ��t �t�s bad �,ou�ekQe�in�g e�nd�tion� o� th� ��th ar►�d �� isie c�� th� exi�ting A�ia�bow ��or� �t�� a� ��g�t�.v� fa�t�a�� an�3 � th�t t1��s�a cat�dition�, �lt�r �h� im�a�cov€�t�e�r�� a��r� �aciQ, t�t�� cora�oct�cl. With respQct �.a bu�ld�»s� tastc�ri�,s, w� �m�ah��ia�d th� i��c�rt�t�c� o� h�ving a�ansi�ter�� in�.ahmd �at�ti�i �rme�nr� th� �u�ic�irar� a�tt� i� wag �ighly c�esi�ab�e t� �lit��n�t� �ha p��ted cancr�t� bla�k� �i�► suc�g�s��d th�+� �h�y d� ��tal l�th� �r��d �tu��s j�b ca� t�a e�nt�re bu�ldin� ��r3��te �anel i��d ��n��uC��or� j�rir�t�) a�cl �h��. �h�a ro�k f�cc� blpck car� th� tron� o� th� buildir�g �� pr��aa��) ca�uld f�� eifmin�ted, 'This w�ulc� provid� g �aare� ec�nQi€�t+�r�t c�tia�I��r a�ound �h� �aui�eiing �nd cou�lc� e�li��n�t�e� �ha t��d f�r p�i�tti.ng @nti��ly. i��r su�g�s��d ��rtk�er that �h� i�npl�m�ntat,ia�� a�' m "ba�ndinc� �trip�" around t�e build�.r�c� �s not n+�e��sa��y, �nr� �+�� ta chea��tn thQ I�u 3 I dl i ng . �n ti�e �ub j�c� o f �oo �top �q� i�m�r�t, �€� s�aggQstmd �h�►t th�+y ��8re a line� n� e�gi�� d�+�w�ng� {�€�c�ior�� indi�c�t�ng �h+� natu�e QP thn �roblom from �h� putal�c z�;igh�-t��-w��► to �he we�t ��i sou�h: we� �uggast�d s�roQning t��hn�q�� cou�d be� im�alc�m�nted which �rauld r�ot ca�s� dr.�tt�r�r� ar�d �w�r14��1 0! tk�� rvo� at�ruc�uXe. THQy src� goir�s� to aon�i�er tY��r optior�� dis�u��d, �nc� w� will �nA�t na�t ��k to r�avic�w ��opo��ct salution�. �1. Xou�ng (2�1-8911) Todci Young, own�r o� the sm�ll of�ica building nc��th o� tt�� ld � Conoco sit� �t th� nor�hc��st corner o� Snel�ing �nd Co�nty i24�d g, ��as in wi�h �tich�rd Stranik who is develaping the new Midas Muf f ler Shop a� that s it� �e t�eY southens ide Qf � th �gof f ice � cortstruct a s�dewalk �to se building (and the entrances therej tY�at would extend tW° Three �c�c�ss� the a�orth px'aperty line of tha Stran�.k proPertY' sid� oi feet of this f iv� faot walk woul�i be on the 7C�dd Yaunc� the site, leavinq 2 feet for land�xcapir�g next to the �rolria�e W� sugge�ted, and th�y agre�ci that it wotald be tnore app p tc� in�tall �he c�rb as apprc►ved in Mr. S�r�nik' � pl�ix� (2 fe�►t from tl�e north pro�erty liner ar�d ta a3d 1-�./2 feet ta tl�ia wid�h m�kimg � 3-1/2 foo� plan�ing strip th�t �aou].d atride �h� pxoperty �.ine. This wc►►sl� then i�av� 3-10 nd � more appr p�r� te�wa7.kus I� the Int�ildinc�, ma}�inq it a$��r a�y ca��, Mr. K�e1 �m�hasizQd th� �m��c�rt�nc� of h�ving �he �Y�+�� l�d�,�io�, k�y the construc�i�n a� �. �urb so as to c�ntro� �h� c3ra�.a��ge on �hi�s sisi� �f ��` b�ai� a T'��e��imp� �m�r�� will�g�ae �►�d �r i 1� 1 �aro+c��d �►r� '�h congis��nt wi�h th�s ��p�ro�+�� 1��. 5. t�icl�c�s ce�31-03Ao) t��ry G�rdon Nic��l.� �� t�e� �urr€a��wit�,�tt��c� rr�lqt�t�o� $�� i�u�c�� h�� he� a��riaa o� four mo+�timc� �o �i�� c��t€�r �n �he� ra�st, �a�x�u' u��E��ancl +Cha�� lr��`c�pk� h � i��t ��i�►g �a� c��nc�U��.�e� on gl b��n pr�as�� at �o��t a� th� r��mting�. TE�ey pr�po�� tc� s��a�ri a t�►��l of 5��, �aa o� no� aflrk rs�v�s�d �at�d��c��e d�avc�lcap��sr�t in t.�� r�cc��uu�r�c� °�lau��ar �onag�` �aarnur�d �h� ��o�ping ��n��r �mrk#��n� er�a�* � l��. �ic�ol� �r�t�e� �i��t t.h� �lr�� hr€�� +��irr�g�. �h�y w��l.�t�e� t�� i�s� �ith ti�a� �f`��a�t�td �aro�p�r�y awn�a:s ��ir►c� u�a+�� h�►e�g�� o 1�� a�dl� in �xi��i�g ��anting�, ir� �c�� a�� r��1. ar�r� ��r��+�d �larat ��t�Qri��. �hc� tt�c�n h�d a��n �r�p��+�c� kr� P�r3s �ur�� u1�i�h ��ioa�� h+� p�opca�e�d l�nel��m��,�r�c� �a��$'ts�e�a��, ir►c��i�q z�+�t�tf.c�r�� ►s �o �3�Qr� �x��in� r��a�i�l, �o�ald� ba r l��a� � ��►oc�lc� t��t��i�� ws�u1�I k�� l�ntpr�. �e �gr�ed �i�� . �xc��s�� ►��t��c � �.�� ot� �l�n� ra��a�i�l, �i�a, �nd �p��i�a, a�d! �� t �� w�ll �h�� t�c� �►�a�o�ed p��ntirq pYsn �� h� ��e. e� +��alc� tl��n �� r��t r��Q9c ta eo��c��r �h� �ir�� l�n. it� �h� ��n ��.��, �h� �t�� 1� g�� cc�py o� t�� Gond�,titin� r�ppli��l� to t�� i��aro�►��.. �t ap�c�Ar� t�r�►� a e�r�ciit.�or� �r�� h�� th�� 1��s bea ba�e�c� rar� con�ul��tion r�i�h �h� reaf�l�t�ax�, arh��ch he� l�e�n doraa. �fs. t��hc�le ��o n�� th�t ou� of th� �� ovin�g �h��,op►l�n� €��'f�rctad, �h�C 1� ��' �h�� h�ve� �igz�ncl o�f �rPP �3 TI�e ott��ar � don't n�c��r�.ly dim��rav�, Ysut ��€�� r�o� �o a�3�c�n �► atat�me�nt �gs�r�aing ��o �al�n. 4�� ugg+�s�sc� t�h�t �h+� cr�n��c� ��,�� folGts ��ai� �o s�� whe�ut �c� u tm n��y m�� b� willinc� to t�pprt��s � pl��a�, with �� wi�h � It i� ��a�r�an� that ��a 9��r t�mr pas�pla h�xvc� �a�d� �a m��or ��'nIt �o a��ommvd��Q ��►� �a��g�ou9 r��Qn�ia� pro�aort� o�r�ac�r�. Th� 8pp�ars thAt �gro�m�nt w�th �� nnin �I x�gram�this �fa iPd.� goel obje�tiv� is ta cam�lote th� p 9 P � wy�ich ahould be pb�ainAblo. �J � � b � � � � 2 a 3� 4* � t S s: 7}; 8� g� u� � Aa n s� � �3 � �« � bS � pf� " u� « Fg a� ~ gp r II / � / � Pl 1 1 ,�__.._ ��_ �t �i s /,' r �4r a e ,. . ati ia.a� n �� !r'9 i '' � A j� 1 �' � r gA � �� j ' �`� �� , r. 6 '�w 8 ' � � � � x� �.�"� � �� - �.�� i C � � � ; �� F: �Oi D � i � �<a ' 1_ ' L--�- � �.�_ .._.__.,.� y I a . � d�j � E � ' :-=-��-- =_� �=i,l� � _ �� ;I ; � F � � ! �y _ „� N �! �.-.4 � � /I�u d �j �� : 1� , ;y^,� ! l4 {�! � G ` \S ' j `'.,:� I —J� �-..��" ,h . ltt9 r , •• w H �}' � � �� ' d ',;�� l � � `e `� �,�� , � a�� ; — �� ti _ '�'��, t � . ; �� . ��'_ �,;� -� o .�� --��. [ w �� C i �r.. I � �� -.:� � ��'." ="`-.�. � ,, -• � �.�� i�'�� ." Fr �y��'r''` u,v ., (''j - ' t n . :� ;. _ c,, i � g__, — 1�{.�� . e �� ..,�w�wwrT'-�_—�+ F( � 3� �i �� i �,.L�,, �� °,9 � � ! `."`i 2� 3,r, 4� 3 r 6? i Plannir�g �►��n�� t��s Cit� Planning �amr�tissi�n Rosevilte, Minnesots f i 0 K'i00 2�v41 � • �� mi �/8 aJ4 t/2 if,si_=t. � 1i�i' � IB a 9� � 13 �; r�'i �; R� � 7C � li �y ` 18` � 19 � 2fl � • � d � Auyust 17, TO: FROM: SUBJECT' : 1. Bangle .:. Stev� Sarkozy Howard Dahlqren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, (633-6385) August 2, 1989 Don Bangle and Dick Ste�anoc aro both from AT&� and propose to const�uct � G foot 6 inch diameter sato11it8 dliah an the tap oP thc� 9est building (form�arly Labell�s) , so�ath �P tr�unk highway 3G, easterly o� Fairviaw. ThQ dish would be mauritr�c� e maximum height og g gQQt �r�d placfld as �gr+�ad upon, in �p�rox�mat�ly th� c�nter of thfs building cont�guou� ta th� ch�ngs� of r�of c�levation. At that loeatior► a�nd �t th�t height, �th� d�i�h wi11 �Sc� ��atively incon�picuous. Karl Kc�al check�d tho �l�v�►tions o� thc� linQ of sight f�a� Highwey 3� and F�itvi�w �►v�nr�c� r�c�t�rt�inir�g �h�t approx�metely h�l� a� th� cti�k �� bc� v�,�ik��, but at considerable� di��encQ o� a�prox,�m�toiy 700 teat. '�h�y �gr�ad to placa �ha di�h a� di�cu�sad, b�t n�at ��qt�c�x t�aan � fcsQt. 2� i��le (6]G-331�) �l #��iQ ��d Kiaa Coak, �oth �� t�inr��ca�a �al�+crnt� we�rc� ,�n to '� di��u�� th� P�o�o��d cond�tiar�a �h�� re� rc�viQ�c�el l��C ti�Q�tk �ec��rding �h�r i��uancQ o� tNo co�nd��,ean�1 ��Q ��r�i� �or ths�ir Athano� ��c�l�ty �t t�a �� e�nd oC �to�+� ��e�. "�hr��+ �c�r�ed to m� � l cond i+� i�n� ��car� �ou�ly �gesp�o��d by �h� �at� t' �' ,��t�Qp� wi C� rQg�r� to �heir e�iving uP a�ny gr�nd�'�t��r z�,tc�h�� e�c f�x �� any �t�tura �t�►tc� r�gul�tions �rs� �o��n�e�� n at�ar �o�ds, �1��y ��ra�d ta con�orm �o al� �tAte� rc�c�u�rQna�r�� tt�� na �� r�y atN�r ��cil�ty �r� �tin��at� c��t�crp� v�he�rc� �o�agate� �one�,��cn� wau��d �p�ly to n�w in�t�il�t�QnE 'I`hc�y ns�tac� �:k��t tt��i,r atto�nc��+ �dvised th�� n9� tcs give u� �ht��Q rtg�►t�. Pa�t��s Ct��t ��apr�o�ch i� un�Q��tan�l�i�l�c sr►� proiaa�bl� r�� e�r��ly ��n��ant. �� n�w regul�tian� �cun ��+� ��mc� as �c��u��t�c�n� cu��n�1�y �p�li�ab�e� �o �ervi�e �tstion�, th� c�gul�t%an� �� `�°�+�r��iv�. Ir� �hs� cAs� o� ��r�v�c�r ��'�ion raq�ul��on�, ��.1 ��t�a�n� t��vc� t� ci.i� ca� th€��r t�c�k� �nd r��l�ec� thQm i� ccsc�e�ir�os�, �r�c1 ��u� n� �rand�atl�r�r (n�n- con�orm�r►q us� r��l'�� r�t��i�ad' , �� u�c��t, t�earc��'�r�, thst th� cc�ndition� �� grea� �a�on �� hc� �a�� meating (�� l��ck wcaek's x�port� �� appropriatQ �ss conditiana �or �hQ Counci� to consid�r. It w�a� Eurther �grr��d �h�t �i�. &��la wcau�c� pr�g��ra a w�ittc�n �tm�@m�nt o� �g��som�nt tc� the�a cQnc�i�ion� whict� th�n could �e p��sQd �long to tha� Cpun�il by th� ��i sQ that a11 ��ndi��o�,� wili hava ba€�n agz�e�� ta► �y k�ath p��i+�� in writing. � �, Olsor► (�93-G��O) �ob Olson i� with Griffin �Qal E�t�t� Co. �nd has 1�een commissioned by Jerry Kaufhold to put the formerly Lexington � School site on the market. The site has 5.25 acres of developable land with 3 acres of park. Mr. Olson notes that District 916 will be moving in January having purchased the old Capital View High School, though the lease runs through August 1990. We reviewed the permitted uses for that portion of the site zoned R-3A plus conditional uses in that district. We noted, too, that the property zoned B-1 can be utilized to serve parking in a B-3 district (the corner zoned B-3) by special use permit. In this case, parking, properly handled, could serve as a transition to the B-3 uses on a corner site. We suggested that as buyers are considered, it may be appropriate to review development policy and concepts with the staff. Development standards were r�viewed with emphasis on impact of contiguous single family and park areas. 4. Commers (633-6312) Fred Commers was in with his architect on the Post Office building to review details of the design of the corner tower at the northeast corner of the structure which provides a focal point for the entrance for the public oriented toward County Road B-2. This tower with a peaked hip roof extends above the existing roof and thus the architect informs us will have an impact on the snow loading of the existing roof structure caused by the allowances for "drift". This can be solved by reinforcing the old roof or constructing the tower of lighter elements with • structural members exposed to form a"rib like" structure. We expressed our concerns that a change of this character might reduce the mass and dignity of the building. We suggested that such changes could be considered subject to City review, but that the corner structure must not look cheap, too light, or garish in nature. They agreed that they would prepare some preliminary designs for review at a subsequent meeting, with the understanding that plans will proceed as approved by the City Council. It was confirmed by the staff that the alternative site to the Post Office has been dropped by the land owner and his agents, and is not being pursued further by the Post Office Department. • r� �� z� 2� 3� 4� 5 � � 6�� 7 e� 8� 9 s� 10 a II � 12 °--� 13 -� I� �j 15 � 16 =� 17 °� IS i 19 �) 20 'I ,• . �...� .,• a� v�� us� = - - y� ,�. � �.. .�� - C �� .�� ' ' ,' � , �Il� � . ` �, � . r�I' �! � � ., �r .. � � �� .�.. � rg� ---- -_ �t�� "� � -__---- -- � - ��I tl � � � ,� ,. °'y � � y �� • I!�!!� %•�� I , � � �� , , , � � :�. � , � � �� . �r��w . � � � I • r•1■� 1' ■�� ,�� f .��„ � . • �• • � � . ' • • • '• • ' . ... ... . ��%� ml 1B 1/4 1/2 ��• fr � io �; i� �; iz � i3 �� ia �� i5 �; is � i� �� ia' ��s � zo =1 i_ro A � B t!!9 C � D� E F � G � H � �ow �2 K u� L �..o r , * � August 2, 1989 � TO: FROM: Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Paraquay (343-2620) July 26, 1989 Carl Parquay is the project manager for the Center Companies in charge of the expansion for Rosedale Center. Carl was in to inform the staff of their 3 phase schedule, and to discuss the exterior building materials for the ramp construction. Phase I of the schedule will include relocation of the utilities (where the new Dayton's store will be built), construction of the south deck parking, repaving of the south lot (under the deck), demolition of the Midas Shop and restriping of the area immediately west of Wards. Phase II will include construction of the west deck (northwesterly of the south deck), revisions to Fairview Avenue and access drives, an extension of the south deck to the existing west wall of Wards. Phase III includes refurbishing the mall in�erior, completion of the Dayton's store, all of which was intended to be finished by August of 1991. Following the occupancy of �the new store, the Center Companies will r�novate the old Dayton's (2 floors) into tenant space. � A large trianc�ular shaped of land on the north side of Dayton's present store will closed to parking from August to mid November so as to provide space to reconstruct utilities, some of which are 35 feet undergroun�. This space will be back in operation for parking purposes prior to the Thanksgiving weekend. For this reason, the bus terminal will moved to the easterly side of the center, and the park and ride moved to the Civic Center site in August. Employee parlcing now occupying the westerly side of the center site wi11 move to the east side (where the park and ride was). We emphasize the importance of the location and function of the permanent bus transfer and access point, still proposed for ths easterly side of the center along the walkway to Carson Pirie Scott. � The staff was impress with the care and detail of the scheduling effort and the emphasis on the objective to maintain a maximum parking capability throughout this relative complex and massive construction and reconstruction effort. Mr. Paraquay noted his intent to keep everyone well informed as progress develops. Mr. Paraquay also showed the staff a panel of prefab contra�t with an embedded aggregate surface, portions of which will be quite concrete exposure (looking similar to stone). We declined to approve that as a building material until elevations of the proposed parking structure could be reviewed as well. Aggregate stone material produces a relatively neutra�. buff color which would go well with almost any other building material color from beige to dark brown. There is somewhat of a disadvantage here since no one knows to date the material and color of the proposed • Dayton's structure. Mr. Paraquay agreed to present the elevation drawings of the parking ramp so that a informal decision can be made regarding the texture and color of the parking ramp exterior material. 2. Sopoci (339-0313) Tom Sopoci is with RSP architects who are doing the design for Toys 'R Us and Kids 'R Us buildings in the new Tanurb center at the southwest corner of County Road B2 and Fairview. We previously met with Mr. 5opoci regarding the heights of the parapet walls as they re�ate to the height of inechanical equipment which they intended to screen. He produced computer generated site line study including; highest point on Fairview Avenue looking southwesterly, top of trunk Highway 36 bridge looking northwesterly, County Road B2 looking southwesterly, on B-2 looking westerly (at the Toys 'R Us building, northwest corner of site). Results in all cases were that the mech�nical equipment is hidden except that 2" will be in view looking westerly on B-2 (at the Toys 'R Us buildin concluded that the ara ets g��• It Was, therefore, structures) will padequatelylcscreen e the aairarconditionine equipment. g Mx. Sopoci noted that the additional landscaping which was agreed � upon for the changes with respect to the em�rgency exit doors on the east side of �he center, and the change in the wall screening on the northwest corner of the site, are to be included in the overall site plans produced by KKE. We requeste� Mr. Jopke to get in touch with Tom Gerstner (K�E) �a remind him of the importance of including the additional planting in the la�dscape plan. Mr. Sopoci also noted that they intended to put a transfarmer in the landscape area on the east side of the structure (opposite the entrance off Fairview Rvenue). We informed Mr. Sopoci that that would not be appropriate, and was not approved a� the site plan appr�val by the Planning Commission and ouncilf We suggested �uch transformers be placed at the rear of the building, properly screened with a detailed plan reviewed by the City staff. 3. Commers (633�631Z) Dan Commers, his brother Fred, and Gearge LeTendre w�re in to review with staff any further developments regarding the proce�sing of an alternative Post Office site other than their site on Gounty Road B2 approved Monday, �uly 24, 1989, by the City Council. We expressed our concern regarding consid�ration of an alternative and far less desirable site and building � conditions. This meeting was short, but the staff infarmed Mr. Commers of their confidence in the council's decisian and their � ti intent to support its implementation. We suggested that Mr. Commers proceed with his contractual efforts to proceed. • 4. Welsh (633-9525) �� Brian Doyle from the Welsh Company, leasing agents for AW Pension Fund Investors out of Boston, was in with Joe Mahue, architect, Craig Duginski (builder), Jeff Coty (Butler Realty) and Bob Lahman ("in house" attorney for the Butler Company) to discuss their proposal to refurbish an office/warehouse building for the Post Office site at the southeast corner of Fairview and Oakcrest. They produced a simplified site plan indicating the two structures that occupy that quadrant, the parking spaces provided and a proposal to have a Post Office drop off point simply on the k�est side of the driveway off Oakcrest, with no provi�ions for backup of cars other �han down the middle of the parking lot. Firstly, we noted through the review of our maps that each of these buildings are on a separate site. The westerly most building has 400 feet of frontage on Oakcrest and the easterly most building has 600 feet. The parking lots are merged which normally can only be done legally under a PUD, and we noted that such reviews and approvals have been conducted, perhaps, on 20 different sites over t�e last 25 years. We n�ted furth�r that on this site, there is no record of su�h a P�D having been pracessed, and thus, the merging of th�se sites without the appropriate setbacks and curbing of parking along the joint property line was not properly done. Thus, any redevelopment of this site using this joint parking facility for a public purpose, would require the process of a special use permit for PUD approval. We in f�ct, suggested that this be processed anyway so as to make these existing occupanci�:�s (and the future) legal. wQ also noted tha� the mail drop off propasal is u�workable and suggested that if it be pursued that it be done most likel� in a manner similar to the other site (on B-2 already approved), utilizing a portion of the 40 foot setback area for a prop�rly designed mail drop off facility. The bottom line here i� that this site cannot be proPerly developed for a Post Offics facility, without processing of a special us� permit and a variancs through the City Planning Commission and City Council. We sug�ested t�at in such a rev�ew, khe �ity would opt for the previ�usly approved plan which produces � far more �ffective solution for the gublic interest and that their pursuance of this secondary site is li�ely to be futile. We suggested, and Mr. Doy1e agreed, that it wou�d be in the best int��G,�t of all concerned if they dropped pursuan� of ihis proposal. For the record, we also reviewed parking requirements for th� Post Office (��t at 163) and code requirements for o�her �� that would occupy other portions of both buildings. The westerly most building has a gross area of 80,OQ0 sq. feet and the �. ` easterly most building has a gross area of 69,000 sq. feet. Most of the easterly building was designed for office occupancy, • though portions of it were utilized for computer related operations (not necessarily all office). We explained that it is the owners responsibility to lease the buildings to appropriate users, maintaining the parking ratios required by ordinance. In other words, if too much of the building is utilized for offices (requiring 5 spaces per 1000 sq. feet) the parking capacity may become inadequate, We did not go through the details of determining the parking capacity based on use in as much as was decided that pursuing the concept would be non productive. Again, for the records, the buildings were built .�i 1978 and 1979, and the City records do not show the processing of any PUD or variance relating to the joint parking configuration. 5. Hale (636-3311) A1 Hale, Manager of Minnesata Solvents plant in Roseville, was in with Ron Cook, a1sQ froan MN Solvents to discuss moze details relating to the development of their si�e for th�ir petroleum product expansion. It was noted �hat the Council requested further joint review (wa�th staff) oi the question of timing of the improvements and methods �f containment at their August 14 meeting. S�eve Gatlin also atten�ied this me�ting and was very helpful in advisinq on alternative solution�. Firstly, i� was determined that MN Solvents do�s not con�rol the railroad right of way (most of it) but does own the last 100 feet, This wauld� � of caurse, affect th� degree to which MN Solvents couid construet containmenfi faciliti�� rela�ing to th�e railroad un�oadins� operatiorr. They noted that the typ� of spill tna� ciid occu� at this site cannot occur again, in as much as check valv�s h�ve �e�n inst�ll�d vrhich would pr�vent the pumping of the liguiei backwards (fioward �he rai�lroacl car tank) which i� what happene�t at that s�il]. event. With respect tv �he scheduling, a possible solutian was evalved whi.ch would inc�ude trie construction o� th� two adc3itional con�ainment areas in 1989 including �h� canstruction of th� storm drainage �ind cantainmer�t pond, wi�h th� completion of th@ �asph�ltinc� �nd curbing of all �re�s of ciriv�way, circulation, and p��king by the �all o� i990. tVith res�ect to th� �xistin�g cont�inment �nd spill control arEa ��t the truck 1oac�ing �oint) , Mr. Gatlin w�uld r�vi�w t�hc� slope �►r�d �fgectiveness o� that platform as i� relates �o tha diked t�r�k �arm �r��, �nci would ascer�ain whett��r iz� hi� o��t`�ione it �+�s appropriate to �on�inu� to function a� �uilt (�s or.igin��ly apprayed by the PCA�. It was furthar �gr�ed that the devel4pm�nt o� new containmen� facilitiea fcr r�ilroad car (an thc� sit�) would w�3.t un�.il the Sta�te develo�s its n�w s�andards �or th�t and other �pera�ions curren�ly under study, Obviously, the loading and unloading of gasQline pr�ducts to and from r�il ears is common �r� �� n�ry and the State oF Minnesota. t.h�tever �tanc�ards are set by the State would seem appro�ri�te her�. They furth�r agz��d that uncler tP�e �onditions �uggested, th�� they � would eE��ctuate any new regul�tion requiremen�s on the Rosevil].e site, eu�n if such requirements were m.itigated by '°gr�ndfather" � CJ � � clause. This would assure that the Roseville site would be brought up to new standards, promigated by the State, even though others in the State may be left to be non-conforming. Mr. Gatlin noted that the redoing of the driveway and curbing of the driveway and the timing of that work would unaffected by improvements made to Rose Place by the City. He noted that if changes had to be made in the private driveway, that they would be done so at City expense when they come w�.th a public improvement to construct the cul-de-sac on the east end of Rose Place (which provides the access to this site). Mr. Hale noted that he would have ta review these icleas with his superiors in Milwaukee and would be getting back to the City regarding this decision. 6. Johnson (649-0958) Ken Johnson owns several Hardees Restaurants in the Nletropoli.tan area including one at Apache Plaza arid New Hope. He is interes��d �.n a Roseville location and l�as re�riew�d sever�l �otential sites, one of which was 2 existing single family homes separated from the back oP the Burger King at Count� Road B and �nelling by an apartment s�ructure. We su�qesteci t�a� squeezing such a Harde�s into this multi family ar�a would be considered a s�pot zoning, and would likely be res3�sted andl not ap�raved. W� noted, however, that if the contiguoc�s apartm�nt building werm acquired so that tho �onir►g were contigue�us tcr the existing businQss zone on Snell.ing, that could make some di�ferenc� fn an ultimat� decision. �l�e notad, how�ver, that the lirae bgtwean business and re�idential ir� thi� ar�a (�south of Coun�y Road �) is wrell d��in�d and hag b��n established over a long period of time. � ca�� can bQ madQ for lea►vinc� the lin� �� fs witkaout intruding in�o the residenti�i area to the wes�� 7. Ts�h�.cda (G36-1365) Don Tschida wa� in to discus� a g�r�ga v�ri�r��e fc�r h,�s p�op��y at i$88 eo�nty Ro�d C2. Fii� houso is ane lot aw�y from the aa�t sf,d� of L�ngton L,�ke, south of County Ro�d C2. Thi� i� a v@ry l�rg� lot with a frontag� of �50 �ee� �nd a� d�pth og 3G7 �ac�t. Hi� hous� i� s�t we11 bmck �rom County RAad G2 anc� h� pxoFos�s to build a g�raga ].5 fe�t inta the ��do lot portion of the site. Thc� ordinance �arev�nts a f�+se st�nding gax�ag� F�om being on the side lc�t� but �an be anywher� within the resr y�rd area. t�r. Tschid� could move the r�arag� furtt�er to the soutt� (aut of the side lot ��ea) but would th�n t�ave ta r�move a 12" �pple tree which he would liko �o preserva. �he Io��kiaan s�l�ct�c3 for his q�rag� as propos�d, i� oppo�ite his neiqhbor� g�r�:�� to th� ea�t. Thus, i� would appear gui�e abvious that the 'Gc.�ci�tion o� tt�is garage as propos�d could be hanciled �s A minor v�drianca, and is a iogical dou�lopment cc�nce�t and l�ca�tior�. r� U � t � 2� 3� 4 6 5 ac� � � � — — . � � A j.�0 - � << � ! � t � . �, �� .� e , _ � � i , � � _ � �= �� ...�� << :� � � a �� j LL'4 n=s, r � �: ;j I,il � ' -i�„��--�� E � Q �r � � ` � '��, F I ; ��G� II � �-- t,� �� , ; � �. G ` _ � � .� ° _ .. l� .; �� H � .� � �n�v ' 1 ��7_ �'� C�27 I 6 - Y(�'�=. ; i. �. � � - - 1 ��_�-�j[ "Y�L�'�� .uv i -�,� � Crjl"v,: i; ��`i -'�`�7� _ K �,��r��( > > �; +, �� ;, i� a , ,� : ,� � � � 2 � 3'� 4 $ � r �6 „ 7 �/ � Planning Ag�n�ia ite�m� City Planning Cornrr�ission Roseville, Minneso#a • �• �� • �� fl 0 10p0 200p ml 118 1/4 1/2 � � � � �� a ; �� :' ez � 03 x r� � �s � �6 r ,T � �� - ;� • 2� s '�"�-��4i�'i i 1- i.; � `� / , , ., " - 7 I ,��'i �.' � L i. a ' ..r �. �2 � 3 — • � ,�, .a ,� sY .� �� ,; �,� � �� 39 a� � , � � Iw �� ; rS ?� 06 � i7 �y t8 � i9 ? 20 � � fyp s-es � � �-- .� a � � � t�� _ �� = E T".� 4� F �� G : cu� _ � . t•fl � Ii�1 ut A � � ..., : July 26, 1989 � TO: Steve Sarkoz Y FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, July 19, 1989 1. Mattaine (631-0410) Art Mattaine, is a partner in the warehouse �or�ion of NW Ettinger Co. operation, south of ��unty Road C, and he is a partner in the property. Thus, �e is concern�d with the potential sale of the easterly 4.7 acres of the land which runs up �o the west side of th� Minnesota Transfer trac�s. Thi,s �roperty is currently occupied by a dilapida�ed concr�te black building with the roof fallinq in. They had a proposed sal� to Frank Morrison, who we m�t 1�s� week, who propo��d to put an aggregate sales and patio block oparati�n, combin�d with t�uck stor�ge and sm�Il �nqine r��air on the site. W� explain�d to ��. Mattaine why we felt �he r�z�ninq w�� nece�sary hexe (to re�aii sa��s� �nd the us� o� the land pr�ncipally �or a�en �tora�e oE aggreqate w�ic� does not confo�m �a the City's curr�nt d�velopm�nt objec�ives �or this �r�a of thQ Ci�y. We no��d thQ consid�rable o��ce dQv�lop��nt dir��l� to th� northQast af th� sit�, and su�gested t' �t � mor� �ppropriat� �ndu�tr��l use could � bg �ound. He noted th�� h�y h�ve �a�n t�yin� to se�l tho lan� without succa�s. �d� �uggaste� �h�t �wo di�ferences �P o�in��n r�g��ding pri�� and l�k�ly ira ttai� c��se, ��ase dQt��r�c� ��r �ha candition oP the praperty end th� cc�ntiguou� buildf nc�s. t�ic� sugge��ec� tt��t th�y tsar ciowr� th� tilz� cot�cr�rte bloa�C b�3�lding, the �encfng anc� �lc�an up th� �ront �nd gQt �°id oF �R�� truc�C �torag�. Al�o, i�r. �i�tteinc� �I�s� ac�raad fih�t thc� bui,lding an �h� Et�ti�gex �ito to thc� sou�hwc�st (th� ald true}� ra��i�r shopj i� also v��y ur�sigh�l�+ and cou�ci 1,iDce1�► �,Q torn cio�rn. �c� c�mph��iz�ei thA� such ��asth�rtic et�ang�s �nd �mpxQyar�er�t� can m�ka �r gr��t deml af di��c�nc�r �hen trying �o m�rk�� th� p�opQrty �nd ��rti�Ul�r�� i�du�tri�l pr��arty. t�r. ASstttaina n�tac� �h�t �s a rasult Q� their C��tQr i� ��org,�nf.��tion, th�y h�v� naw �in►�ncinqt �ri�h � 7 y��.r b�lloan �nd want t4 ciis�4�g ot thf� prep�rty iong bQ�ore� th�t d�adliro�. N�� sugr�s�t�d that �h� C��r �rould h�l�a tt�em in �ray wa�► th�t w�a �An �ar�� would raPc�r potential bu��r� to �hem �s gi�+�y m�y visit City �i� 1 � Po� �.h� t purpo�� , 2. F�ott (t�3G�g888) MArvay R�tt is thr� Qwr�er of th� Super 8 Fiot�l �nd �r�� in with Rich�r�i Elli�c�s�n, �n �d�.4i�or, tt� revi8w their �u�r€�n� p�apa�al to r�med�i 30 of the existing x�omtns in �h� mot�l to 15 �uita�. � This would r�duce tho tot�]. numb�r of �ooms from �80 to 165 and reciuce the ��rking fram Z87 to 17�. H� show�d us �agelimin$ry .� � � building and site plans showing the proposed changes pl�s an addition of an indoor pool. The site plans suggested that this would work well with some minor changes we discussed. He alsa noted the desire ta add a We sugges��d that they add this to build�ng, and tha� th�y include � would be m�re conve�ient for �heir th�n this separ�t� facility now on They �ill prepare building �n� � pe�mits, which wi11 nQt r��uire a an� �ouncil. 3. SanchQlli 24x24 foot utility building. the north end of th� priricipal n inside dumpster so that it employee� and more attractive the north side of thoir site. it� pl�ns Por submi�sion �or r�view by Pl�nning Commis�ion MikQ S�nchalli, �rea �sn�g�r �o� th� �orth part af the �e��opalitan area with t�a Unit�d St�t�� ost �t�ic�, wa� in w�th �im Chr�stisn�an, � r��l �st��e r��re�an��tiv� ��r �hQ F��t o�fi�Q, ta �avi�w �ha st�tus o� eurront p��nn�ng Por Po�t oi��o �acilft��s in �o��v�l�e. T�Q st8ff h�d r�g�Q��ad ��at �� c�� in ta r��p�� to �r. Chri�ti�ns�n'� r��n� Q�fort� �i�h Ch� �d�l�� Compmn�� to �r�d�� an �l��rn�t�va �ita �t �hQ a�u�h�� cor�or o� O�kc�e�t an� ��irvimw, ��i� i� �n �f�icoS��Mou�� bu��d�ng ��n��d �Y �h� t�� ny �h�r� thQy �� lor��g ��t�o�� o� �la�i�� t�� t O�l�c� ��i��i�a �� th�� t��u�a, �� r��t o� ��c;h �ould �n ac�upi�� by o��gr ��iva�Q C��t�, �� r�v�� k�� r.o�o��l i��t wo�k w�t� ��h �o�� Q��t��iv�� u�c��in� ��t�� in th� apin�a� �� tha �t��, t�i� 1��nti�n �� i�n �or �h� ��t ��a ��il��i�s u�� int�r�o� to �h�t �Mic� �� a�k�� n ��r��lv�l� �ith t�� 4��i��, Ro��v��la F�o�a�ti�� s�� th� �lty ov�� h� ��g� E�u ��k�. Y�� r� ��t Ch� �l��ni�g ��i�n ��v�� h�� oo��i�� p�� u��ni��u�ly �t �ha 1�� r�gul�� ting. �t�°. ��n�t��l�� ge�r��i�r�+�c� h�� v�f�ion �� he� ��1C tl�� coop�rr��i�a� ��o�� p��n �� a gia� on� �nd► �� or�tina�� nc�o��c� i�� s�apr�u�l. ��. Chr��+�i��a�. t�+��Qv��, �r�dfc��e� hi� ��°c��c�� o� �� l�zh �i��, ir� �� au+�l� �� #.t �ou�� Q �on�a�dc�r�b�y �t��a��a��, �ca� �r�a��n�� i�c� �c�n�t�io�s��i th�t � m��1i�n c�o11A�:� au�� n y�� p►��aoci. w�a �xpr�a��d a�u� �Q�c��r� s�i�9� �h� ��c€n� ��t Of�,icc� c��o�ts �rc��ad�sn� �o �x��+�sre� �ol��a�r�� i��r� w��t�aut th� �i��►"� knr��tl��c�� anc� nQt��3 c�ur �ut�p�.i�� a�l��n tt�� l�h �ca�,k� em�� r� 1�� r€rQk w�th �t��r ��►. hta c�nf��ma� €►� �� d�d w�tN th� w�]��h ��lk� thAt it �� vi�� th�� ta �u�ic� a �rcapc�r m�il ��ap ��i�it� �h�� a v�ri�nce woul�i �� °e�e��i�cQe3 t� t�P�Q 4� f�a�t �otla�ck Qn t�ea we��t �i�o oE tt�ca t��h Ca�npany �ite�, z�D�s ��ggQ��a�i �hr�t unt�l a d��i��an i� ma�da raexx� t�ond�� gt�t a� �h�a Cout�ci� m�e�tirec�, �t�� 3�A�n�►ti�o �� t�oulr3 �ic� h�� in �be�r�n�e. �t�°. christi�n�on �mpri��i�ed hi� in�e�� ir� �flo ��r�.sh Ca�►p�ny �lt;e��n�tivo a�id tl��t �hQ�r m�y likQly� �pprr��ch ��r� �":ity with � d��gn �o�u�i�n. ��ta euc�gest tl��t �he� Council coule� b� mc�dc� ��rz��Q oi �h� �1tQrn�tivc� idoa �iu� th�xt no cathQr op��t�s �i11 b� eon�id��Qd €��r�ously until �t�c�r� i� e�iacision rag�rding �ha �County Ro�d �2 Amend�d �ropc��Al as ap�r�arred by th� Pl�anninc{ Commission. � 4. VFW Craig Furdy, current commander of tha V�W, wa� in to discu$e plans of the VFW to �on�truct a utfl�ty building fn th� northeasterly �ort�on of th�ir nowl� oxp�ndod sitm. Hs wa� ingufring a� t� bu�lding materf�ls, loca�ian, �tc. We �uggas��d th�t �uch a�uildirig could �� ppropriate if constructed o� th� sama mat�ria� ag �ho pr�nci��l building, ��d that h�pa�ully th�t would �l�mi��t� tha �a�� r the a�i��ing "'shack" that �hay have an �kids bQhind tN� �u�ldi�g n��. Mr. J�pko r�viowmd ordinanc� st��da rds s� t� �oc�tia�, �� ugg�st�d that t��y �n�arporate int� ��i� �uildinq mnd �n�lo�a du�pst�rs �o �� to olimin�tQ t�Q n��d �o� th�� f�� in a�a��r�t� �o�e��on �� it i� t�d�y. M�. ��r+�� n�o�ed �h� su�� tha ��a�� Q�p�n�is�n af' the d�n�ng area�� ar�d thQ �lu%s� ar�C�ci��i�n �o�c �u�ur� groart!►, �i�r ��i,.t�at�d the��r �n��n� �o �aa�Q��te �a�tP� �t�� City in thi� dev�lo��n� a�d �he�i� p�ro�o�+�t� c��e��r��on o� �h�ir p��kl�g vh��h► i� peo$osc�A to accur° sr�th �hc� �lav�l�p�ant �x�'` ��f �Ia��l p�rkir�q fa�i� ��i�� on �ric� ccrecigu�u� p�r� ��+��. �r. ��1 �ot��c� t�1��t �U� �� bUdc��t eons�+�tc�� hf� �aot�� a� �� s��om�l�� hL� �e��r� �ue l�k�l�r a�oulc� o�� .��t�. �. ��a�� -��-��:Ij � �+�� i�� oo��i�� a� R��l ��+��c��r�, �R��, i�n�� t o� Gt��nd �'��k�, ��, ��d �� nu�� n€5�� in �,h�� a� �h� �our��. tt� ��► th� �u��a�� r��i��+�� a� ��+� r��+� ��t��r� G+�n��€�1 �c�tcrr� �►�r�� n��►w �� a�#��c� he h�� l�p��sn s�o�r��t� a ��6�lN�s��$�I�li �Mk ��'IeY l��s• �"li�� i�l[75i1Y ��K !!�O'41fE� 4�f,y� �,1� a�./°Y�!lY��e 7lH� �+�c�� aa��r�� to� ��;�e�h�� o� �� itinn��l�� . ��s� p��ra�� a�v��l �� +�� a�� h� ��«�g �htJp ��n��► ��@�+o��d �a �e� �c��+�d �n R��v�Xl�. �#e�, �lo►�� a��#�h �if� ��+�e, r�h� #�,� ��► a�ut��c�la.il� �Qr��u��r��, �u��t�� u� �a�}�1�� A� t�� te� ��,p �$!u� ��p �� £��+�� h�� i� ��• �l�, F��+�I�i r��+�� t�� s��►��o�� or� �1�� t �f +��n�r�l t�o�4�� a� �� lu�t� �� +�� t �e�� i�� q��i�y �c��, ��sr�i��t�g ��a�v�c� �n� e��a�l�� c��c, �n� v�r°�r hic�h c��y ��t�c�� n �tr� �c��y ��v��+�p��r►�. �t� �� t��c�� u�ili��r�c� �t�� tu�n ��C+� �r��9 h�� pur�h�� c��+�n� dr�r�� u� �ir��l� �+itt� �hr� Rur�t� ��o�a��. �� vi��Qc� �ta� C��+' � �n��r�� w�tC� r�ca�� th�� sit�, itc� ��ninc� t�-�) . snc� the� i�p�►�rt�n�Q o� h�vi�►� �n �►tt��,ivQ �d��►��.op�ac�nt ��rvinc� �� . g�te�+w��► to �t�o �u�u�a ag�ieQ cl�v��a�m�nt ��a� to �he ��u��. W� �ugg+��e�d �h�� a�o�� n� e�ca+�.��i�n� ��c� m€�� +il�h �c��e�� to the� �p�aYQ�r��a�n�� v� ��a,�� ii�� in� ��r. FcyciQ� ��v� ��'�l �m�rt��'y� �� en� bui ld��r� plsn� p�sapsr€��l t� in�i��tca t�t�� ,Q�r�l a� qu�lit� �h�t ca�ulci �e� ►�c�v�lopasi for �hi� u�r�. �,�Q ��a��c��c� t1�� Qmp3��i� a�2 builci�nc� dlc��igr�, gu�►� i�t�, QxtQn�ivn grc�an �r�� raunci tha sito (�or � di�pl8y �nd �a��tt�etic �urpo�a�) , �nd �c�ra�ad �pon cvnciition� ��latin� �o �thc� u�c� af bannara, �l�g�, end ot�h�� par�ghc�rn�l�.� used by typical automo�ile dealerships. It was agreed the � question of appropriateness would b� further evaluated. 6. Holm (639-4761) Scott Holm h�s � comp�ny call�d Reli�bl� �uilders, operating at 2575 Fairview, and fs inte��st�d f» ��e possibility of building a multi-family housing d�velvpment at 2373 County Road C, which is a 1.97 �cre trac� own�d by �rs. Anton�zai and her daughter. We not�d that the land is indi�8t�d �n the cp�prehensiv� plan as high density multi-�amil� hous�ng, �nd that h� shoul� revfew his d�velopm�nt proposals with �� eantiguau� sin�le fa�ily home own�rs. In the 1979 compr�h�n�ive plen� thi� land, et th� r�gu�st o� th� hom� own��s w�� ho�n �� igh density mul�i-Pa�ily housing. Tha� is coneist�n� w�th �ha �xisting multf-�amily hous�ng to �h� north. Thes� ��u� �r �iv� �o��s in the ar�a are i�o�a�cd and �t w�a ��r��d �h�� o��r t��, kho n��e� us� would b� app�opriata. Sincn �h�t ti��, �o��u�r, �ama ch�n��s have �c�urred �n ��n� o�na��hip, t�u�, it �ould b� �ppropriat� for Mr. NOI� to r�v�� s id��s W�th �h� ��bnrhA� grior to an a�t��pt to ��o�o th� l��d �rom ��1. to ��9�. �. e�r� ��1a-72�-26�6� DmivQ ��, ��c��t�� n�� rvi�� t�� pr�po��l on Ric� S�rQ�t �n� L� �n��u� (a�t o� t�l��.h�� a �evi�w a ��vfsed pl�n a� thQ �ote� r�develoF�� o� �h� �� A� �ou r�c�l�, w� � ��vQ �i��u�� t�� t � ��in� �a�t ��, and h� has �rc�� v�a�� sn �� p�oui�� r�c�ir.�d �en �ar�tng �p�� nd �n �tt�ac�iv� l�y�� u�� a ��k w�� on the ��C�. �� o� �� d��e�� or�a�n��) �� oued o�� Ric� ��r��, �� ull�� h��a�d �ur�� t�Q nor�h, p�owi�� ng o� �hQ �� a�� . �� sugg�s��d th�t �� n�� W�Q� �hi� �� h� �o�ti��au� ��o�� o�ner�, and th�t �� pr�p�r� ��pl�� n�� o� c�n��Qn o� th� Flanni�q �or�fo��, wh�ch t�b�� h�s ��tt�r �� t�� v�aua r��ui�r ��t�fi� �� uly. � z� A � 8 � C � D r..� E c�s.a F tt� G LttS H � I � J it2 M �.� s � � PLANNING OFFICE HOURS 1�� Z.—z6� x ;I io �j i i �! 12 �� i3 .� i4 a� i5 �� is " i7 x� i8 ; i9 �( Zo =I ..,, _., e. /!- 7/ 2_ �� w� -�f•is � � t � • � � • �z-�•e5 :.o ].t-�� D�1 OAHLGREN SHARDLOW E UBAN 4 � B �a� C �.w D �..o E � F cr�fl G i214 H r��e I :o,a J �+ro K ,.00 L,o � n � U � July 24, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PL�'NNING OFFICE HOURS, July 12, 19�9 1, Abeler (636-11.38) at 2339 Roselawn daughter The urchased about 1 year ago. John Abeler lives au lexlhe p e an ed R_2 under the 1959 .Avenue which is a p �955 and was zon The duplex occup�.es dupleX WaS muilt in Wide rezoning plan. roximately 50 Comprehensive 2o�/u�ity each apP 'mately 2 oi a series of 4 lots, ncil approved roxi the nc�rthwest corner �f C u e S�reet an a p p wi d t h l o c a t e d a t i e d b y feet in the Planning Com m i s s�.° one to be occup Roselawn• Recently, 'vision o� t�ese four lots into 2 lots, a d�- us an additional 73 foot lot to th� nor • the existing duplex pl a th,ird ear history of t��-S structure, of the the 34 Y Mr. Jim McFall, Scameta.me �luring the buildin� • and infob en living uni� was added �as inspected the s� �h � r�h�y have building dePartment, 3 unit struc�ure addition '�o that the found in �r , Abeler l,�r , McFal l also i�, illegal• g inches cu ing, found that the basemen � 5footture has oc pY 3 units, h� than ��e there ��-ng nificantlY less re�sure release valve ceiling height sig a p there are hand rails needed there should one hour fire requ3red► of the basement 's needed on the hot water heater ant�e ceilinq 1 units ( se aration between th�tion) . He also nat�� ton Co�u$t�b�,e wall P u�lif�.ca than a n does not meet this � o� carpe� rather Cit� inspeCtion for his of the fireplaGe 1S uired a ial. RecentlY Mr. Ab�l�r r�q the structure under the mater one of the units lis r�luctant to author�ze application t� H� program. The ��-tY o�°dinance and Ramsey Cc�unty Structure viola�.e5 the zoning use when the �h�s we bui�.ding code. �nd Mr. Abel�r, with Mr. McFall these facts and tha a a e the �only Reviewing dwelling unit, ested that the use iedina�aca illega � h� s�ructure as � sugg occupi use ot t lev�1 cannot be uti.or� for him to discon� i gestede that we would discu$s Would sol dW�lli.ng• We g and that the City three unit ro erty within a a re�ing to vacate t�e p p erhaps 60-90 witl� the Chief Code Enforcement Offlce ' riod, p • want a letter f o£ t��e, g We Suggested a pe cer tain period �t h�s renter out o� °na S��c �� c time days• �e W�uld hav� tO � est�d that if w� ha th� Structure We sug'� oi.ng to occupY £or hi:n to move ias to When he �as � cou;Ld authorize the then the City tab1e in writing ur oses. as a 1.wo u�it other rentallunit for HRA p'P renting of the 2, Gregory �332-5544) • Arnie Gregory was in with Harry Olson, architect for the Can-Am project north of City Hall (on the Reiling property). Mr. Gregory reviewed their problems regarding the handling of the clean up on the service station site which on the southeast corner af the project. He informed us that the TOLD Company is no longer interested in developing the site because of the complications relating to the clean up process. Mr. Gregory suggested the possibility of leaving this service station unoccupied (and unused) and developing the shopping center himself with a 20,000 sq. foot structure as originally approved in the PUD. We suggested that we wauld not want to leave the site unoccupied and unused, but that their original proposal to use the land for parking by agreement with Mr. Reiling while he continues to own the site, during which time the site would be cleaned up through the ventilating process discussed last week. We are very wary of the possibili.ty of the remainder of the shopping center site being developer, and the site may be developed for some potentially incompatible use. Arnie noted that the PCA will pay up to 90� of the costs of the clean up through the venting system within 60 days of the beginning of the process. This commitment can be made only to the owner. Mr. Reiling does not want to par�icipate, in as much as Mr. Gregory will trv to work aut an arrangement with him so that the benefits of the 90� payment can be achieved. The bottom line here is that we suggest that he proceed with the � shopping center site in accordance with the approved PUD under an arrangement with Mr. Reiling whereby the whole service station site is no� leit as �n �xception. Mr. Gregory assures us that the PCA will allow the use o� the surface for parking while �he subsoil is b�ing ventilated. 3. Narris (633�1533) Ann Norris is in charge of rede�eloprn�nt ir� the City of idew Brighton and was in with Frank Morxison, who owns property in N�w Brigh�on, being condemned i�y the City. She is, therefore, seek�.ng a relocation, for Mr. Morrison's op�eration which consists af the storage of 17 trucks that he uses to ser�►ice th� '0�i�ily" ac�c�unt. He also runs an aggregate sales operation wherein he stores various types of aggr�ga��, patio black, paving bricDcs, etc. where he se11s ret�il ta the public. He also runs a smal�. engine repair service. He is looking tor a site for all th�ee of these operations and is consider�.ng p�xrchasing a 4-5 acre tract easterly of the Ettinger operati.on south of CAunty Road C. Mr. Morrison furtP�er describes his operation as bei�g similar �o "Patio Town" which is located in North St. Paul, south of trunk �Iighway 36. We suggested that tl�is use is i.nconsistent with the City's policy for the redevelopment of the land in this area, and that a rezoning will be required to allow the retail operation. We noted the City's intent to develop more with greater intent to � develop mare with greater intensity and quality, particula�ly as it relates to former truck terminal sites which are low intensity and low tax producing facilities. • Norris that the City of Roseville andlNew f Bright ne aref ope atMn • somewhat in parallel, gradually redeveloping some of their older industrial areas for more intensive and active uses. We noted that such a rezoning request would be incompatible with the comprehensive plan, and that based on the new, more intensive office development that has recently occurred to the northeast that this proposed u�e would likely be considered appropriate in this location. 4• Doyle (829-3405) Brian Doyle, from the Welsh Companies, was in with Greg Dubinski of Advanced Builders, and Jeff Coty from Butler Associates (realtors) to reveal that they have been working with Jim Christianson from the real estate department of the Post �ffice to put a new Roseville Post Office facility on the north 28 000 Sq. feet of a 72,000 sq, foot office warehouse building that they own at the southeast corner of oakcrest and Fairview Avenue. We expressed our amazement that the Post Office people would be seeking another site in Roseville when representatives of the Post Office (including Mr. Christianson) who has been workin closely w�th the Rosedale Properties folks and the eity staff to achieve an attractive and workable solution �to the Post Office facilities south of County Road B2, and easterly og Clev�land. Mr. Doyle �oted that the proposal on the We1sh Companies site fs $3.75 vs. the $6.00 praposed by the Rosewood Corporation. Thus � • it appears that the aperation woulci be chQaper for the post Office. The solution, however, is far less sat3afacto parking for the customers and the Post Office personnel would be mixed with other parking areas throughout th� remainder of the structure to the south and �he additionaZ structure to the eas� (owned by the Welsh Company) A proposed drop off lane for postal ' pickup was ir�clud�d in their layout within the 40 Foot setback area that exxsts an +-he west side of the atructure (contiguous to Fairview Avenue). W� no�ed that the development of such a lane would requ�re a variance under the i.ndust�ial zona�ng dis�rict, We suqgested that the overall operation, in terms of function, appearance, and compatibility, seema to ug far less desirable than the so].ution worked out on the Rosewood Property site. When Steve Sarkozy, City Manager, was made aware of these developm$nt�, he suc�gested that we meet with the post Office management peopl� and discuss the Post Office motives and objectives in puzsuing a»other site in Roseville when the Council 3.s �bout to review the cooperative solution involv�d with th� Post Ofiice input these past few weeks. Sanchelli, Area Mana er of the north area Mr' Michael J. Paul had � foPerating out of St, ) previnusly informec� us at recen� confer�nces fiH�t he was very much in favor o� the revised B-2 and would pursue �� proposal along County Road postal organization znv�lved r n this decisiQnleaThus ��'�hin the amazed th a t t l� i s p u r s u i t o f o t her options is underway r e aWe � ten�atively have � meeting set with Mr. Sanchelli and others for next Wednesday to clarify these matters, prior to the Council meeting. • 5. Hirtz (823-6721) � � Steve Hirtz is with Nordquist Sign Company and was in to discuss a proposal to add additional size to the pylon sign and that serves "Rosedale Commons" formally known as Loehmann's Plaza. They propose to identify several additional tenants by adding 2'x16' panels to the existing pylon sign. Measuring the outside edge of the sign panel, including the decorative top and edges of the sign, the proposed square footage equalled approximately 267 feet. A pylon sign of 200 sq. feet is allowed. We agreed to discount the measurements of the 17 inch square cubes through which the 12 inch round vertical legs protrude, but only if these are painted the same color as the pipe structure. All oth�� areas of the sign would b� measured from their outside dimensions. We suggested that they revise the sign so ae to reduce the siqn area to 200 sq. feet or le�s, and that in this way, no variance procedure would be required. WTe also �uggest�+d that we would like to review the colors of the new sign, in as mucl� as the sign that �ow exists (replacing the original sign) is quite diff�rent from the original PUD. We sugqested that the color used on the revised pylon, be similar to those used at the center ao a$ to hav� the �aylon aign comp�t�.ble anc� complemeretary to the center. They will xevise their �igna and be back to discuss it with staff fur�her �t a�+ednesday office hour session. 6. Berg (218-722-26�1G) D�ve Berg i� �n architact with Dick Micks Construction Co. wi�4 are proposing to revis� a s�rvic� s�ation at th� northwest corn�x of Ric� Stree�. Mr. Berg was fn to discu�s with staff verious options ior redesigning th� sit� to accommodate a new condenienco stcre, c�r wash, and 3 pump islar�dg with a canop�r covsr. i�e and Mr� Keel raviewed with Mr. Berg various a�tional �ayout� witY� t�he intent o�' producing a dos�.gn th�� would accommudeGe 10 parkinc� spaces �equired by ordinanc�, plus adequate circulation for the car wash and pump i�l�nds. It appeared that one of the best approach�� would be to p1aeQ th� b�ilding in t3�e no�t��tes�ez�y cQrner of �he site, similar ta the way it is tQday, with the c�r s�ash in the� rear. This arx�a�gement apPe�rs tA pxovi�d� �0 parkf ng spaces, �rith the pumP i�land ori�nt�ci at a 4� dagree angle toward the corner o� th� �it�. This would allow the c�osing o� one oP the drivew�;ys on RicQ Street ( nearest I,arpenteur) and ap�ea�r to provide a basis for a vcary efficient layout. We auggested �ha� he pxepare a�levalopm�nt proposals on t�esc� basis �r simiiar layout, and he discuss it with the own�rs of the shopping center wh� owra th€� prop€rty to th� north �nd we�t. Thi� 1�►yout m�� require sQme variances for the corners of the car wash, whiGh might be clos�r to thQ interior property lines th�n th� lp and 20 foot required for the site. The sideyarc� setb�acDc would be 10 feet and the rearyard setback would b� 20. 9ecause this is a site tha� mea�ures 150x150 feet, th�re is some �lexibili�ty as to which setback will be 10 feet and which setback will be 20 feet. � Tt may be in the interest of the shopping center owners to have this building setback as far to the northwest corner as possible so as to retain maximum visibility of the center. 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DANIGHEN SHARDLOW 3 UBAN • � � July 11, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve Sarkozy Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLP,NNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Commers (633-6312) July 5, 1989 Dan Commers and Georqe LeTendre of Roseville Properties were in to revi�w the final site and building plans and presentation drawings they have �repared for the Planning Comm�ssion meeting to be held that niqht. All of �h� elements of th$ revised pl�ns that we had discussed have beer� included. They showed us a new perspectivc� and new plan drawinqs prepared by the architect that they brought in to assist in planning tho revisod concepts (after the last Plannin�g Commission moe�3ng). The persp�ctiv� indicat�s quite an attractivQ view fram thQ northeast, the direction that many of th�e p�ople �rom RosevillQ will bQ approachi�ng from (driving westerly along County Roaci B-2). We discuss�d the raoFtop �quipment thet wi�l ramain on tt�� oxi�ting buildi,ng. This roof, itaelf, is not vi�ib�a Pram tha t�ir�h point on tho County Roed B-2 br�dg�, so ik is not a mat��r o� scr�en�r�g thQ roof, but �h� �quipmo�t itsQlf. This sida vi€��► o� this Qc�uip�Qrat is in tha �orm o� e rac�ul�x roct�ngl�, th�s it w�uld �pp�ar th�t th+� b��t ,�olution wou�d bQ t�a simply paint th� units thQ s�mQ gray as p�ropo�c�d �or th� structurQ. �1r, �o�mers notca� thmt th�y had j�� ut a nQw �oo� on tt�e Qn��ira s�r�cture (including th� 12, 000 sq. faa� o� o�f��cQ ta b� torn doranj , anci thQ 3" o� ,�nsul�tion which wa� �ddQd to thQ top, Thc�rQ i� �hus � practical �xob�a� in �t��ching e raaftop �crooninq �truc�ur�a to tha roc��. �t wouYd ��pe�x, thou+gh, th�t bacausc� th� ua�ik� ��r� tl�c� �anma�� thc�r� ara rc�lativQ�y �Qw, �nd oac3� i� in th� �oacn� e simp�e cocr�l ins�ac box, �nd �lwa ��ugg�a�tion th�t a�crQ�n �raund th4 u�nits, individu��r o� �allc�ctiva�y, m�y lae mor� �pprepr�ata thAn �impl�+ ��in�ing tt�e uni�� to m��:ch tho �xtQr�or a� tha �t�cuc:tu�c�. In �umm�ry, tilo s�� is in agraemcnt with tk�o Commer's �'alk� and �hQ Po�t a�fic� r��rosan�Qd on the dos�.gn �f th@ �ite �nd th� facili�y. 2. Sopa�i (33�-4�13) Tom SoPa�i is� with kho nrGhitc�ctural ��rm o� RSP �nd ,�s ��ign�ng thQ KID� R U� a�nd tho TOYS R US �aortion� ca� tho shop�ing c�ntor ba3ng d0v�lc�p�d by T�nurb, �nd �ecc�ntly ��provad 3�y �h� Plar�nirag Commission ahd Ccauncil c�n thQ old Control D�ta si�ta �t th� �o�athw�sC corner er �e�unty �2c��d B-2 �nd F�ai�view. Nc� �ta�i�ed �.a discu�s same minor c1�er�ges �o th� �it� �nd muiiding plz�r► a� fc�llows: �,, Th�y raquired �a firo egress door r�n thQ ��t sida oP the structure. We agreed that this could be added, but that the landscape plan would be revised to include at least 5 � additional coniferous trees, six feet or more in height, which can b� judiciously placed to assist in screening this doorway from the view as you enter the site off Fairview. The door and frame will be painted to match the brick so as to make it as unobtrusive as p�ssible. 2. A portion oi the same struc�ure (far east �nd of the building) has a protrusion on the south��st carner for accommodating a service loading a�ea. The east west dimension for t�is protrusion is 21 feet. They propose to �liminat� the trash container protrusion at thQ sou�hwest corner of this store and add it �o the protrusion an th� south�a�t. This would make the Qa�t w�st dim�nsian 40 f��t, but wi�l �limina�� tha ne�d for th� pr�truding tr��h collecrgr space further to the w�st. WQ concl�d� that this �s �n improvemont, and constitute� no prabl��. 3. Th� overal� dimen�ion of this bu�ldfnq (nart� sauth) is p��pos�� to bQ incre��d b� 2 fQet. This �ddit�onai foo��ge could pro��ct 2�e�t ��rthnr t� th� north �n� �bsorb b� � �ad�ction in ca� sp�c� �iCh Z�nchas �n 13 gp��s, t.hu�, pro�ueing 2G i�ches o� �d�itfon�l �im�flsi�n on �h� b�ild�nq �r, �h� �r�t�u��on Gaul� ��m��ct 2� ��h�e �urth�r �o Ch� �outh, which wc�uld rQduc� �hs� sc�rvica dirive� from 24 �Q�+� to 22 ��C. 6�a did ns�t �grQa to r�duc� �h� �ic�e��r�l� widtl� to � tt�e ��ont o� tho ��ora� �� Inche�, �ahi�h ar�� ons� a� th� op��n�c pra��ntc�d. T�� re�dt��tion �n p�rk�ng �paccas tc� 8' 10� �+� � rQcc�r��a��nd�cD, i o� �� u�h �� s 11 �h� ��Q� i� itosc�e�a 1 c �rc� 8't"� �"hcr &a�avi�lc� C�t� Ca�a� �l�os�� up �o �� c�� th,�� p�� to �rQ �o�p►��t �p��c�� n�m�� r�idtt�� 3,� �� d+��ign��+�d ��nd �igt�c�d. Th�s a��on ��, aE �c�u��q �ot n�►��iy u�� i�n x�� pa��ki�nc�, but �� u�c�r� �nr � dQ�ic�n�,ted o��ic� �am�kin�. 4. �`h�y ��a�a�er t� �ed��c� �t�o ��.Q o� kt�e� ��r��e� on th� ►�o�t1t�8�C��1� ��'�1��u�� o� 2 r 1�"' te �' 2", T't�l� .�� m�tt�� o�' r�quali�;in� fi�h� �c�p tca �:hQ p��p�t ��vctl�. �de� �uc�g��k�� tha�t th�y pr��ea a 1�r�e� o� ��r�h� ��c�wir�g �ea dQc�on��cs tN�� t�� c�du�� g��Qt l��igM� W�,il� �crc�� a ��ch�ni��l e�q�i��cs�t �o k�c� or► +to� a�' thc� �trt�ctu�c�. �� ,�� doa� r�o�, �N��+ h€ar�€� �h� ��csro o� r�i��.r�� t�ca �►�rsp�� ac� to the� a►ri:girwa]� �e��l, �� r��duc� th� hc��P�� o�` �the� �ir c�anditiQnin� ��d h+��►t�ne� eanft�. 5. �'h�e ��nB indf�a�ta � l� foot h�gM w��l, 3� �c�ot lang, �crQQning t�a �o�dir�� rQ� in th� n��th�ae��t c��r�c��° a� ti�o �itc�. 'i'hs�rc� �.� �1�0 � ��il s�x�aQnin�g th� tr��h �amp�c�ar� W�� p�o�os�ca �o �x�ond �I�ca r��ll, �cr�en�ng th� lo�din� ��°t�� at�� t�a ��a�� :�m��►��v� a�l �� r�y ta �� %v�a��y �� h� �cartMr�+��t cornar o�' tMa ait�. 'Phc� sc��n sround thQ � camp��tor �au1d that� ba alimin�ta�. It ;a�paag� �ha� this ch�ng� w�.1�1 improva tY�a ��pe�a��nc4 oP th� s�va��ll �tructuro by further screening the loading area � addition, they agreed to add at coniferous trees, 6 feet in height the west sid� o� the driveway. WQ f will increase the aesth�t�c quality better job of screening the compacto service dock. � � and the compactor. In least 8 addit�onal to the landscaping on eel that thsse changes of the area, doing a r and the loading and t�eo l4 �Q 8 t!!Q LTl� D � F t2QQ cresr H L'!Q / ro�o J i�?0 � � � .-�� 2 � 3 � .�� . _ � ._. 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They �re inq�ai��nc� �rh�th�r thery ean ��xr th�► oxisting housa down (it is an oldi cAtt�gc�� and re�build. i�� orm�d thc�m that i� cnuld b� don� a� �an� �� thsy car��a�t� �c� tha sha�elinQ �oning ordin�nca which retq�a i r�� i� �e�o� ��a�b�ek F ro� �he �ha�� i ne . �'hc�y ahowed us p�t�� m#.��y ;�l�en� a� � pro�cas�Q�. F�o�� and g�r�qo �o �rhich thoy pra�a�� ta ��1�� ►d ju�+�mc�n�� `car �3�a lot c4n�iitfons. Tho oxiet,ing c�a��ogc�s� �z�c�� irc�c�l� or� �. (3wsss�4 t�oulc�v�rd (no �ront yard se�t��C�� ,�r�a �u+gga��ac� th�� ghou�d ��ts�h�d a ne�r gareg�t to th� hnua� �nc� �� i t �� th� rQqu i r�d 3� �`crca�t , I t wa� � 1 so natod th�t ��er� �t�c��ld �� z� ��r�°r► ��roun� c�� thr� s�it� in s� mu�h as S. 0��c� �o�u � �� cd � � � �►�, j a� ��nr�►u�h �� r� , I � ��o� r� th� t th�y �a�1i �� b�� da�v��op thi� ��tQ ir� eon�o�nanco with �c��i��t��, ��dl �at��a�c��s� th�a de�vc��o�r�c�n� Application ss � �h¢��c��n� ��ar��n� �t��r�i� c��x��ly �to �h� Coun�c�l. 2. �l�i�t�� (��3-•'��) i�r� �1��►I�c�� r�c� ��i� rec��hb�o� i��n .i��c�r� �ho �ivo ln singi� ��t�i�y �re��.�c�c��c�� s+� tha s+�u�t�cz�BC ccrrr►e��° o� E�� d t��amlin� �� a�d �� N��1�n�� . a�h�n� tt��m (�ca ��a QA�at� �� G�ac@ �hu��1� a�P�i�t� l�� ac�� e�1 �tta ��a�r �c�.�idc�n�� in �hi� biack ��d �p�� e� a�c�r�� , ��c�r�ir� �h� E31�mbQ�� ►�i �T�n�mn hom�s ms �+�il. ?�"l�� ge�r��i��►, �p�p�rQn�.�,�r ��c� not� ��ti�£i�d with the o��Qr� �a�� i�c�u.��ir►g �bc�ut ��r� �o��iiaility oi �Qzaning ��zc� i r� m�cl �e� r�a�rn� cc�m��r� 3� �a 1 pu �p��Q . �r� flo��d t��t ��l th� l�net �t �hs� intQ��e�tion o� S-2 ana N�mlinQ i� �on�r� R-1, �ndl t1�� com�n�r�,��l �or�a �rould thus l. ik�ly b� ��an��ri��Q� a'��pc�t �on�" ��nd th�t �hQ naic�hbor� naArby m��r �t��ct, T�', h+�w�ave�r., o�ror ��c�riod of ti�n�, thoy don't �cc�uire thair t��m��, �he� �thc�� a��can m�y �t� to co�n�idar �omo �orm aP us4 �t��t i� �a��-m�ttc�d or ��c�c��l u��a ih th� �-1 2or�ae 4�o r�v�mw�d tt�� r�in�n��¢ with t3�� n�t�.n� th�t d��r�°ar� ��ntQrs �n� nurser}r �cl�ool� ��-� �l�.ow�:d uncler th�� condition�. �ha atl��r optfons m�y be � limitQci bu�in��s u�o with � lor� pro�i�a and r�sid�r�tial ch�raetc�r. W� r�at�d that i� tna imrnadi�to neighborhood supports �uch � ch��gQ (bs��d o� r� sp�cifiG pro�As��) this might be a �o�sibi�ity. Wo �f�'irm�d, how�var, thmt ��mply re�oning thc� land in adv�ar�c� of any s��ci�ic dovelopmQnt �raposzl would be hir�hly � • � unlikely, and is rarely done in any metropolitan municipality. 3. Gregory (332-5544) Arnie Gregory (Can-Am) was in with �'erry Nanemacher and Tim Murnane (Towle Co.) to discuss the progress of the development of the small neighborhood center on the Reiling �ite, north of City Hall. They are informed that the cost of excavating and cleaning this soil of petroleum contamination may run as high as $400,000. The alternative, which they wish to pursue, is a method of soil venting, recommended by the MPCA which involves the installation of a venting system which will functio� to a period of 1-3 years thereby correcting the contamination. They note that under this proposal that the land can be utilized for parking, landscaping, etc. but not for building. They, therefore, propose to leave that portion of the site in George Reiling's fee title and develop the remainder similar to the way which was approved in the planned unit development. The buildings would be in same location with the convenience store and service station as previously proposed. The building, however, might be 15,000 sq. feet instead af 20,000 sq, feet. The question was would this require a revised PUD. We suggested that if the shopping center structure is constructed with a pitched roof as proposed and approved in the PUD, is the same size of slightly smaller, and is of the quality consistent with the PUD proposal, that this could be handled through an amendment with the development agreen,ent rather than a revision to the PUD. Principally, the amendment to the development agreement would relate to the handling of the separate parcel under separate ownership, but with lease arrangements to use in the interim period, and a iron clad agreement that the parcel will ultimately be added to the shopping center site, and not be developed as a separate parcel. This part of the agreement has to be very carefully done so that in the end, the overall development is as the way it was proposed and agreed upon in the PUD. We had previously discussed this with Craiq that this procedure and technique provi�e solution. Mr. Gregory notad that this has Mr. Reiling and that there had been verbal on this basis. 4. Anderson (484-1293) Waldron, and agreed s the best means of been discussed with agreement to proceed Ed An�erson lives at 2545 Rice Street, and is immediately north of a: imilar single family lot who's owner has been selling use baats Gnd used cars and trucks on the site. Rick Jopke confirms that the City has taken action to prevent these operations, and that he is working with the City Atturney in followiny through. A court action l�as occurred resulting in a fine, though the sales continue. W� and others on the staff went out and looked at the site and there are in fact used trucks and boats offered for sale at the site (as indicated by the si ns • Mr. Anderson is inquiring as to the)pos ibility e of zori nl�his land for some commercial use. g appropriate solution here is to cont nue the eeffort ttoteliminate the illegal sales on the site. Both of these houses are setback a considerable distance from Rice Street, and in fact, enjoy a fairly reasonable residential environment (in spite of Rice Street). The condition is in fact better than on many of the other thoroughfares in the City where homes are established much closer to the thoroughfares (County Road B and others). 5• Holmes (489-g995) Larry Holmes was in to inquire about a possible variance to his north side lot setback where he from a 16 foot proposes to expand his garage garage to a double garage. This involves extending the existing home approximately 10 feet to the nor�heast. His survey indicated that the current setback is 14 foot 9 inches. He would also extend the home to the north about 12 feet which would extend approximately two feet into the minimum 27 foot front yard setback required for a attached to a house. The normal setback is 30 f et,a but han attached garage can extend 3 f e e t i n t o t h i s se t bac k. We suggested that the side lot setback be not less than 5 feet. It appeared, also, that this is the only way to put a double garage on the site, and that it would be a reasonable candidate . for a variance. We suggested that the garage not be built back to the rear of the existing house so that a proposed porch on this side (part of �he back of the old garage) would have exposure to two sides rather than one the concept and will likely be ' Mr. Holmes agreed with suggested. pursuing a minor variance as 6• Hale (636-3311) A1 Hale is Vice President and General Manager of Minnesota Solvents and Chemicals Corporation who has applied for a speci.al use permit for expansion of their site to include ethanol production. With him was Nick Froboesse from the parent compan of Milsolv, out of Milwaukee; Steven P. Carlson, attorney; Cecil �• Wille, engineer; Robert Heicksler, form Milsolv; Wade Westikul, D. J. Kranz Construction. We reviewed the Cit 's concerns relating to their most recent submission which did not include an indication of a proposal to develop the aurbin o this site as required, nor was there a written stat ment explaining the development prop�sal, timing, etc. The therefore, agreed to revi�e the drawings to indicate the curbin� and to prepare a statement as requested. We also reviewed a siynifxcant number of engineering details with Karl Keel and adjustments will be made to their site to accommodate Mr. Keel's conce�ns. They noted that they are willin to . the entire site except for the drivewa which r thede curbing on expand in the near future. We suggestedYthat if the propose to y �propose to handle the driveway in that way, this should be included in the statement with a specific proposal as to timing and that the • Planning Commission and Council may consider that as an option. During the day we visited the site, and it appears that the additional development is not a problem. The handling of the r�mainder of the site is a probl_em in as much as most of the site has a qravel base, no curbing, and spillage from tank trucks coming in and out of the site is designed such that spillage will merely permeate the soil. They propose, therefore, to construct two enclosed loading areas with controlled run off so that a spillage can be pumped up without running into the storm system or permeating into the ground. It appears that all of these things can be resolved with their cooperation. They will prepare these amendments and give copies to the City so that they can be mailed to members of the Planning Commission and Council and answer the Planning Commission hearing scheduled for July 5. City staff will mail these amendments to the application direct. The intent is for the staff to have time to review the changes in time to comment at the Planning Commission hearing. We suggested that they be prepared to offer a complete explanation of the development proposal and changes made at the Planning Commissi�n meeting o� July 5, 1989. 7. McGough (633-5050) . Leo McGough, representing the McGough Construction Company, was in to review an expansion proposal for their site on Fairview. Three of th� six sons, Leo, Tom, and Larry currently run the company which has been on the same site in Roseville since 1952. The company was started by his father, Peter, �ho resided in the homestead since 1939 on property fronting on Hamline behind t�e Har Mar Shopping Center. The McGough Construction Company is a highly s�ccessful organization, have done well in Roseville and intend ior an extended period of time. tKr. McGough notes that their current problem is to provide additional space for storage of archived records. They pro�ose to do this by adding to the south �ide of their building, an addition 10 feet wide by 148 feet long. This would extend into the existing setback (required to be 20 feet in the I-1 distr�ict) up 19.31 feet, which apparently reduces the �6 feet on the Ear west end of the building. He notes that there is an existing metal leanto on part of the setback area which would be removed. We suggested that a site plan should be drawn indicating the use of the remainder of the property, and perhaps demonstrating that there is no other way to add to this exis�ing structure for this purpose. We �ue�ti�ne� Ziim regarding the economic feasibility of this sort of addition in as much as such a space would be difficult to use for any other purposes. We asked them to explore the possibility of buildir� on the west side of the • building (with a more logical and usable space) or going to a second floor addition, or even going to a basement space. Mr. � McGough noted that they have the a the Hunter folks to the south (Hun err Truckf Linehe VWelsuce from that the variance might be considered if it can beggshown conclusively that this is the most logical thing to do and that there is in fact a hardship at the site. Mr. Keel inquired as to the possibility of expanding the site, acquiring a portion of the old Ramsey Engineering parcel, which is indicated that they had discussed this with �th m fbut Sthat they do not wish to sell a portion of the site. 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T��:e•i'sa-�-� .��s e � n..�. �, : i�' � nL � i s 0 '• �`' '��-sl� �i�� " ,I e ±i _� � �il �I -I I� �i =l��i ;i�f i� .+ � 10 �i I I �� l2 g 13 z� 14 z� 15 :� 16 � 17 gl I� � 19 z� 20 'I � -, • • . June 30, 1989 � � � TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, June �1, 15d9 1� Commers (239-3293) Dan Commers was in wa.th G�orge LeTendre and his architect, �'eris Curiskis, to review revised plans for the Post OffiCe site which we had preliminarily review�d at last Wedn�sday's sesaion. The plan for the new Post O�fice was tabled at the last m�eeting of the Planning Commission at wliich time ti�Q Coxnmiss�.on reques��d that Mr. Commers and his �eople (the �rop�s�d landlore�s) work wi�h the Post Ofiice �and staf�' to revis� the p3ar� tc� put �11 the postal facilities on the one s.ite and remove �he e�ristine� o�fice building on �h� front par�ion of the site a� r�ecommend�d by the staf£. �ince that time, Craiq W�2dron har� reachdd an ac�re�am�nt with I�r. Comm�r� as to what �he City can cantribut+e �o make thia Feasible. That ag�e�ment (not rr�v�iewed at this m��ting) ��tem�cl roasor�a5le and acceptable ta all parti�s. 'Ph� r�vised pxar.� indicate that a succ�s��ul Po�t Of�3�ce aesign can b� �chieved, through the pl�n pr�senk�d and had some� qu�stion�ble alt�rn�tives as to mmthods of h�ndling citiz�n parking (Past O�Fic� p�a�rons) and the m�il drop of� fac:ility. W� r+�v3�w�ed varic�us m�thods of solving these problQms with th� agreem��nt th�t wQ would m�eet �n Friday morning ta consid�r final opt�ons. We did m�ot ag reed wi *.h parki;ng �t at 9:00 c�n �rid�y, Jun� 23, 1989 at which tim� w� N�r. �ommers ancl his architec�. on a ano a thc� fronti of the t�u3.lding (�arg�1X wl structuro was remaved) which would achi�ve a ve parking arrang�ment and �n indQpend�nt �ircula�tion the dro� a�f f'acility. �'h�y wil� now pr4ce�d fio drawing� iri �ime� f�r final r�view� and pr�para�ion �he City Coun�i,l on �3onday, Jun� 2E�, 1�89. �ay sy�tem of �r� �h� old -y ��f�cien� 4�a��rn for Pin�li2� �he r��orts foX They agreed to dro�a the r�c�uest fa� a�ariance tA the parking s��baek on th� east sid� af t�he site where they wish ta simply retain �n existinq parking guard rail. They agreec� to revise the �lans t4 prodide for a curbed landscape strip so a� to b�eak up this "sea of asphal�" that ex�ists i.n this ar�a oi the site and cantiguaus property. We agre�d, �►lso, that in view o� the fact that s�af� hac3 insp�cteri �he exterior of the lauilding and not�d that the e�i�ting stuc�o was in �excellent condition, tha�t it would be appropriate to pre��ure cleai� the exteriar and paint th� existing stu�:co instead af tYxem puttinq ne�r stucco on t�p of th� old. All three sid�s o� the �uilding have b�en stuccoed with thc� approp�riate expansion joints and appear to be in excellent condition. Mr. Commers and his people have been very cooperative in � attempting to a�hieve a Post Office site and facility that is far superior to the previous plan combining rental office (at the front of the site) with the Post Office facility in the rear. 2. Children's Palace (636-4146) Mi.ke Tutoky is the Assis�ant Manager at the Children's Palace s�or� �n Fai�vi�w Avenue. He is requesting a p�rmit to install a 6 foot dia�eter (8 foot high) satellite dish on the roof of the build.�ng. We suggested that a lin8 of sigh� draw3ng b� prepared indicatfr�g the extent oY visibility fxom the resident�al area to th� north. Mr, Ke�l gavQ Mr. Tutoky th� ground elevet�ons oi �he structur�s. Wc suggested that they have the archit�ct o�f the ariginal, buflding pre�are a simple Zine of siqht dr�w�ng i1lusGr�ting tho dQgroe o� visibil3�y from tha r��id�r�tial area. It appc�ar�s tha�t with tht� 2 foot parep�t that exists a�ound tha Chi.ldren's P�leco buf lding, ttaat th3.s antar�na cen Ibc� pls�cc�d �ear tho c�ntc�r �nd w�ll not be visiblo from thc� �Qsiclential az�� ot �►11, Undar th�so circumst�anc��, a par�it could bc� is�ueri for tho �ant�+nn� without Purt��x action, in �rs muct� �s th� cQda allows tk�c� buildin� 3,r►�pc�c�or to issue suc� pe��mit� unlc�ge his o�inion p�c�sents � pntc�nti�l dQls�tc�riou� public impact. 3. �choanlc�i�Qr (��3-7a�43� h1,�kc� �ct�oen�obe� is ��y�icisn �nt� hi� �ri�� is � psycP�ia�rist. � Thc�y vary re�centiy s�igneci a�urchas� �graamc�nt �or e��nglr� ��mily rQ�fel�ncQ �mme�c3iatQ�.�r n�r�H o�` L�ka �#c�C�rrona Pa�°k on the Q��t side of �ycC��rror►� L�a��r. `�his proparty is a� �60 focat lQt a�ith �n oxisting ha�� tQ whieh ti�� Schae�n�Qbmrie prcxpoa@ to �,dld � y81r�Kjet� �or�h, a�d �atio acid�tion, Th� doub�� garnc�� wi�l t�o att�che�d t� tha axi��ing h�ou�a on tha P��ant (tawards th� ��ra�t) and rQpras�nts no p�oP�1Qm. �'h� sid� yard �e�k��cks are 5�oot and � �oot ra�pc�ct,ively �� hi� boin��w �n old 5 faot �c�tback nQighborhoo�i, is Appr�c��a�iAta, Tha exi�sting at�uctura i� 7� i�et �rc�m tha w��Qr �. ind to th4 r�c►rth �nd is �om�wh�t 1�� o tha �ou�M ond ai tl�a Mou�o, in �� n�ue�h �s thQ S�skexsh6r� €�r�g10s slightly i� tt�is are�. i�o �rapo��a �o cons�ruet ��Ax14 �ont �orch whic�� wou�d pla�c� �he n�w structurc� 61 �� rom th� �har��.� ir1Q �c�m tM� no��Y� �d�c� ar�d �om�what l��s on t�e� �outt�. f?u� to �� .z.� o� th� �c�t, ifi �pg��rs th�t �ddinq a porc� in any c�ttYo� way wauld b� impr�c�iG�l. �e� �uggeastad �h�t �� cor�taCt �he ow��r of tih� re�idenco to th� north (�ogar �Ic��ej And o��z�in Ptis wri��,Qn appr�val fcar the Fro�a�ed d�velo�►mar�t. Mr. It�ss' prop�rty to the north i�s substantially higl�er, being bui�.� �n � ra�h�r sh�rp hill �� this point. �hu�, they �re �C least lQ f�et over ttze 1Qve1 oP �h� Schoenlebar's lat. Thu�, � structu�a buil� as prvposed would no� inh�bit tt��ir vi�w. Tt appears tha� th� propos�d development is reasonab�� if the � obj�ctive is to a�ld a porch in s��ne reaiistic m�nner. � � 4. Franke (636-5500) Bi1Z Franke was in to discuss the potential development of the lots that they hav� purchased on the east side of Hamline, south of Wilbur-Chandler Vau1t Company. Mr. Franke noted that they are negotiating with the library board to sell the southerly three lots for C�unty Library expansion. Before they aqree to such a sale, they wanted to review with the staPf the possibilities of ultima` '_and us� fQr the remaining thre� houses they (which will be north of the expande� library site). Their prelimi�ary plans indicated a thre� story office stru�ture, a l�nd uso t�a� waa previ�usly raviQwad with �he sta��. Th� plan pres�nted placed thQ structura on thQ Qast Q�d of kh� lo�. W� euggested that to minimiz� imp�ct on the r��idences to th� e�et, that the� consider eith�r spl�ttinq the two bU�ld�nysr tur�ed �erpendicul�r (t�� nar�o� Qdge to tM� n�i�hbor�) and plac�d on th� north and south en� of tha r�l�tfvely �qusr� p��col. Tho othor option would b� ta �1aco th� buildin� n�� mlfn� Avanu� whero t�era �ould ba �CQA�@t v�B�bility, �erry tha acc�ss ta th� norCh �n� �au�h �nd of tha bu�ldin� �n� provide p�rkfng in tho r��. �� pp�are tk��t d�um Ca tha chenc��sg 3n �;levation �th�t thi� p��rking could b� we�i l sc�raen�d. Thca lots� to �hQ c��rst arQ dQap �n�l approximat�Iy �l00 tQc�t, so �t �o�id spp��r th�t � change �n 18nd u�Q in th� middlc� o� this bloek c�n ba t��t succes��u�ly eccom�alishe�� Th� �aC1aA�c�� and �risua� ir�p�c+� �ould ba� �ar �o�s tha�n th�� at the c�xi�eing devQl��t�Qnt (thca ��1t�ur-Cht�nc#lor V�u�t Gompan�rj . It �ppc�ar� tl��t �� k�Q�c� ��op��ti�� ro h�ndls�d wo�l, �hAt a �uccas€�fui m��i�c� d+�vc�lap�r�rr� �ould occu�. I� �pp�,�� n�a�l it�ti� th�t tho�Q t��ra� h��►a�� pD�u� thc� �nr� imnn�d��a�Q�y �o�th a� �h� t��:lbur-Ck�ar��r vaul� Co�p�ny, �re ns�� ccssl+��ti��ltgr �is��1, �ton�inc� o� t1�r��i�� Av�nuc� and i�al�tQd �a t�say �rc� ��c�r. �t�a lon� r�ngc fu�tur�) . W� �ugc�c�stacl th�t �t��y �Qvicw C�c�� ir��►� witN �ho nai�hboa�hoc�c� �� o�r�y s�A��, Iong �e�a�c� atey �o��a�i t��l��ian�c sr� p�ar��c�� r ��Q�in�g a�c c3c��eQ � �a�ae�Qt�� . �� srkvi�w �� disee�€��ad wi,�h �2�cD: ,7o�k� the ��k�ng ��bl�� t ��k�i�w �7ut�,�or tiigi� wh�+�i1 i� ��a��Qnt.ly bai�►g u�c�d b� the �ct�o�� b�A��D t`o� A vt�riety Q� aduet�ti�r�z�l u�Q� ineluding o�c��nd�� i��r l�tch }�Qy. c��rl� chi�dhood i'Am�ll�► Qd�eAtion, somQ Kind�rga�tan cl�ases, �po�i�� o�uc�tion, �l+�m�n��ry� �e��ourc4 �cor��e��r, eiis�rict tn�dia can�+�r, �►�e�ci�►1 �due�tiore ��icQs, �nd can��r scho�l k�lkarn�t�v�a�. �"hc� �i�e h�►s l22 parkirtg sp�c�s with 1Q► ��s ,�n th� w�,nt�r �ba�au�o of 5now s�c�r�gc�) . �'k�e�re arQ 3� e1A��nne, �5 ot�icas, 2 gymn�►�iumg, a sw�mrning pcac�l end �� 1 ibrt��y. Parking �a�iliti�� on site l��v� ta�c�n ir��quatc� �a ��rv� the�s� n��d�, w�th the rc�sult th�t thQ �ublic is p�rking in na�rby r�sidontiai strc��ts. Mr. Ja�akcs showed us parking �ic�urms s�tbmittod by th� school homr.d stafi indicatinq nood �'or u� �o �51 sgac�s at p�ak hours (during the noQn MQur)r and in ti�o �uture thoi� neads may � pe�k at About 1�7 spaGes. �i� noted that thr� district 91G �pecial education program will be leaving the site but that anoth�r • proqram is being added. Under �hese circumstances, we suggest�d that the only solution would be �o add additianal on site parking which could be accomplished, in our opinion, in one oP two �laces or both. One is contiguous to and an ex�ension of the s�rvice area parking to ths south side of the building. Some qrading will h�ve to be done to accomplish this but it would be fea�ibl� without adding additional driveway access oz iBle �pace. The second optian would be to �dd space on �ha nort� side �f t.i�e building an tho high ground, ne�r the northwestorly co�ner ot �he sit�. T�is would b� mor� exp�nsive snd �ould likoly �nt��l t�e rdmov�� of some d��irabl� growth. Howev�r, tflex� app�ars t� be no �ltern�tive but to expand parking on t�e �ite in �ne o� thg�� ways ar some oth�r alt�rnative. 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Amdahl (33�-4200) Jack Amd�hl i� an architact w�ith KK� a�cE�it�ets snd we� in w�t� Eton Kr�nk �lso from K�t� ta �oviaw tit�eir prali�ina�y pi�r�s �or t�� Qro�e�onfi o� t�hr� Rainbow Food �i�Q �t thQ n�r��ae�t eor�er o� �arp€�nt�ur �nd �'Qrn�rm�ad� That str�ctugo, o�igin�lly #�u�lt as � Sp�xt�n �i�caunt �tor�, no►� conta�n� thQ �alnbo�t Foaci� �tore�, thra �o�avill� � Th��trQa, �inc� thQ Gra�t� �hs��, �'hey ��ops�s� �o �Qa�@ �hn tlh�atrta in t�ct �nd ��1+uC� �ha �i�a o� �th� +�t��`t �t�op and ax��tnd R�ir�l�caw �'oeclg. T"hey pca�a�d ta cN�nglQ �hQ ��c�ing �nci ��e�tj her�dlin� f�c�lit��8 an thQ c�a�� ,n� na�� sid� c� tha build�ng. T'h�y els�a P�op��c� �� }��ndl th�� ox�ir�n ��' �tt� �it� a� �h� �outhc�� carns�r ��n�ta�nin� thc� b�k��. �t� t�o+��s� th�t� in thQ�� r�� rhs��c �t�agr ��r� e�a�nqirnc� th� ��rtac�u�e� �n� �h� ia�dinc� ��c�l:�Cy�j ��e �r� �ae��1d �e�uira ��a�a�� u�a� �n pi��c� conc�re��ta cucb�n�g, �nd 1�nd�cA�ainc� an the �� c�� c��' ��r� ��ura�a T`l�e�� l�o ��o�o�ca to ��av� ett� Qs��tir�c� d�iv��a�y r�1�at �un� � �Ar��l t� thc� ��t �� t�c� r�r��t �i�� o� �i�t ��c�urs�. �'h#� �r��l f�Q ��l��d a��th � err�ik �nd e�r�a��. t��a s1�o ��qu��o�t �n�ar �a�dz�e��i�� ta��ari��. �`�ay ��a�� n�+� t�o �h��a�� t�� i�� ar� 4�Q ��ti�r �� qa�Q �V1�1.i1�i�A �Q�� I%� ��IiaQ� �� i�'Q 3��i1�� I nQ� �a��b�ek �ro� Ci�� r�g�ht o� �r�y � in� ��enc� i,��a�n��ur. �ta� ��gr��c� t��t ��ct �t idl � �r r� �►u ��b�ek �t�� r�q�t � ��d 1 � ��c�� pU� ! n g�a��rt, i�rrc��►�c�, � r�aa�r ��°� i�a ��'�� c�a. '�h� ��, �� is, �� na� c:an�ar��ing, �nc� tt►c�r��o��, +�o �x��c� ��,� �I��, �h,�� ,��gc� �hauld ba� ��de. ��, ��tQl n��d tf��►t� �f�� p��n�; �� r�ot t�a �c� ch��dE �h�t no �dd�+tian�� lx�i�ag� �au�,tl b� r��t�i�+�d�. �� iao no�e� th�t �t�Qrc� �e��nc� �7 �cat�� +�� a� �ea� rr�r� ��c� e��t�� litro� o� L,�r�p��t��r, �t��t r►�a s��ionai de�d�c��iQn �� 1��. WQ ��ffia r�e�m�Qnd�ad ��a�t th�y �o�� I�c� Qx�►o�u�� a��f�o�a �+�ufRm,en� �nd ��n�id�� h�n�� h�� m�c�Mt b� na�+��s��ry or� ��Q �+�� s��d�a of tha ka�ild,�� $c�� u�i� ��ra.�prnc�nt. a. ��ran� ��-��!99 j Di�k �n� ��rl Evot�� (l�ro�hc�� i�a�� r� �o d��et�� thc� div�i�i�n o�' tl,��r mather �nci ��the�z�� t�oma�ta�ci �t tha �outh+��t �o�n�� s� Fa��er �nd Le*xir,c�ton. 7`t�i� p��e�l, A�tor s�+�dic��ion o� �n �addi�ionA� lf�-],/2 �oQt �f ri�h� a� �r�y ir�m i.�+��ci,nc�ton� wi�1 ha�ra� a� oas� wos� e�im�neion �f li� feat !ay nogt�t� s�u�l� dim��on c�i �� et; thus, i� �k�� no�•€� t3�€� a�4��,��y garag� �� a��r�t4 �truc�ur��) ��y coul�i a�s11�y c��t� � naw �5 �'oot iot on t�� t�est si�de a� the prApsr�,►, lQ�ving a�ornor la� r�ith ��ront�g� o� 1�3 �0e�. Y� �hoy lo�t �ho q�rmge wP�are it is �80 ��t �rom th� Qas� 4 lir�e) th� new lot to be created could only be 75 feet wide and still keep a 5 foot setback for the exis;:ing garage. We also suggested that th�y move the garage and make it a proper 85 foot • tot in as much as there is more than adeq�aate space to do so. They may con�i.d�r se�ling �he sit� as is, rather than to divide tl�� lot. We s�aggeste�i �:hat it is there option to do so if they wi�t�, and i� dane as we �7�-opa�e, it would be in accordance with developm�nt regulations. �. LeTendr� (633-6312) �an Can�mors, F'rad Comma�s, and ��orge L�T�ndre, all af Roseville Prop��i��, wor� in with, Mikc Sanchelli, regional opera�tions of�#�ce Por tha Uni�od S��te� Post Offi.c�e System (operating out �f �tx Pu�l)p Mr. S�ncl,Qili'� phon� number is 293-3293. As �t�c,�ua��ad b� prr��ric�us c,on�Qrset�ons following the Planning C��mis�ion anQatinq of iast wc��k, ��n �omme�rs had his designed prmparc� $ n�w �itc� pl�n fc�r tha propas�d office facility, Q�ira�r+�tir�g tP�c� la,On+� s�. �'oot r��icc� �pac� on the front of the �aft�, arid uti�izir�r� +�h�► site �ntira�ly for Post Office purpos�s. �`h�y �ra�ontad ��a�t� a drawi�rag ��ich ciQarly f ndica►ti�s that the s��c� c�►n b� v�ry wcall dnve�lapc�d or� th�� bAsis with 179 parking s��ca� w�o�r� 1C�� ctunl��► raquirad. They a�so revi.sed the �n�er�ior �al�n a� �� a�rc��tu�� ancl �indl that it works very well �`c�r PoA� 4��ic� �SUrpa�c��. Pir. SanchQl.li v�srif�ea th�t in tarms o� tha �ahyr�cic�►1 plsr►, th�t th+� n�� plar� is b�ttor �than the o2d Qn+�6 and th�t hcs w�::ld p�Qf�r �n d4 �hf� p1�n reth�r than leave � tha olr� �oa� d��'i�e� �itea A$ i� �nd dec�ntralize aome of the �ail�nc� �outQ�, i�4 Qrt1y h�d r��naX sugg��tions with re�pect to the �ft�c� plsn �� prc��dn�c�d wh;ett incluci�d moving th� drop ofi �e�ric�3 ��+�y �tor� tt�r� �ront do�r �� the� �truetur�s, adding mo�� opc�n a��ca m� �he naw► �r�tr�ncer ta thc� bu�iding which wouid bc� �t tt�e nar�h�r�st �c��rn�� nc� ��vis�g� th� �l�c� �41� �nd sign�ge �1 i�h�l�► so �� to incra��a �hQ �a��a�ack. WF �I�o �ugg�st�el tl��t �MQ flaq p�lc c�r� �h� �ou�h �i�3e ce�ld bc� h�ndled with � l�ow �a1��tQr eo ae to m�ke ti�c�m �rary �tti�a�tivo in tha proposec� �at�ir�g. '�t�� i�ottc�m line i� t�zA� ttae l�yout works w�ll, looks �+�11, �r�e� o�r�iou��y �rodu�Q �£�� mor� d��ir�ble Post Office �alut�an on tho �itQ, no� ��q��r3.ng v�ri�nces. Wa �I�o �uggQ�tcd �ha� ��ibi�.it�r th�t th� tot�l bu�lding �oul� b� ��ucGc� in �s mu�h �s �MQro i� no br,iGk ledge to brick the bui�dir�g. R�c no��d t�� City'� policy not to hav� �"f�lse fron�" �rtid z�n�+ lc��r �t�ind��r�d t�aC�riAl �or �ho rcast o� th� bu3.lding. �'hu�, it �a�ul�! ��pe�� th�t i� th� b�ildinc� w�re �tucco in it� Qnti�c�� r�ith thr� ��propri�t4 colors could b� a successful solut�ion. �,Te noted tF��t a sim�.lar structur� in Ft. M�yers was rc�contly done by t�Q �o�t c3��i.�a involving a yroy stucco building �t �� nld �ir�aart �i�r� �ri�hC ne�r wher�a t�e Twins will b� buildin-J next yo��) . I� w�as nc�t�d t�t�at tha sc�, fool-�g� of ��e huilding �►s dosigned is 22,000 sq. feat net wh�re th�e previous r�t�t �q. �notaga �qu�led 19,826 sq, fent, �herefor�, Y��ing a � diFf�rEnc� of 2,1T4 sq. �eet. Mr. Sanchelli noted �hat in . response to a question, he would do whatever he can to encourage � the Post Office people to increase their contribution to the revised scheme. It was agreed that all parties concerned would have to contr�.bute to make the new scheme possible, the Past Office, the City, and Roseville Properties. Mr. LeTendre noted that the changes in the building and thE provisions for the new parking dreas, curbing, landscaping, would cost approximately $100, 000. He n,oted too, that-. he thougY�t the existing building was worth $300,000 and that it �had been appraised recently at $35 per sq. foot which equals $420,000. It wa� agreed that tl,7e discussion o.f the�� numbers and th.e extent to whi�h �he City could assist in helping to pay for trie chang�, would be discussecl with Craig Waldron. We had discussed this procedural concept with Mr. Waldrar� sariier in the day, and agreed that the first step woulcl be to agreE upon a�vorkable design. After that, Mr. Waldron could wc�rk with the land owners in coming up with numbers regarding redevelopment costs. Mr. Commers was reminded that an approved Post Offic� facility on this site could certainly be beneficial to the welfare of their other significant investments in the immediate area. They own two crf the larger structures across the street �rom County Road B-2. 4e Busse (48�-�649) Richard Busse is one of the children of the Busse estate who owns the land north oc Larpenteur directly east of the cemetery. Mr. B�zsse presen�ed a very prelirninary plan of a apartment complex � consisting of 90 units with 42 exterior garages and �3 parking spaces. This site plan and preliminary floor plan w�is preparEd by Troseth and Wright, architects. Their proposal �.s �or 7.13 acr�s and includes the contiquous property to the east. Frontage on Larpenteur is 329.5 feet with a ciepth of 613. A part o� this property consists of the pond to the nor_th. Nir. Bu�se showed us some plans of a project known as Pointe Pleasant Height in Chisago City developed by McHoff Constructiori Company. He noted this is a 75 unit apartment building wit� adelitional townhouses on abo�xt 12 acres of land. It is designed for senior citizens occupancy as he is proposing on this site. We noted that the exterior garage layout did not include parking spaces in the front of the garage doors which are required by Roseville ordinance. We suggested that they consider putting the , parking underground which has normally been done in the City. The density proposed was 13 units per acre which is more than the townhouse zone normally considered appropriate for the medium . resa.�lential density that property is indicated on the comprehensive landuse plan. We suggested that it therefore would be rather important that he work with the contiguous neighbors regarding their acceptance of this concept. We emphasizeci the difference in the density, medium density corist?tuting about 10 units per acre (the R-6 townhouses require 4,000 sq. feet per unit). We suggested and he agreed that the first step would be � to cliscuss some of �hese concepts with the neighb�rs and then proceed with revised preliminary design for development. We also noted to Mr. Busse the other s�nior citizen gro�ects in the and suggested that he check with them regarding their mark �ity success and the types of programs offered in each faciiit , eting 5• Bernhagen (633-3593 y � ) Donna and Herb, 292,9 Old Highway 8, share a drivewa loca contiguous property owned b Y ted on an easement over p�,�rt of this dr vewa bute a Adolphson, and have that the easement dc�s not extend far enoughp ba k to have found complete access te� their 3 car give them structure in their rear 5arage which is a separate regarding the maintenance and�use�ofYthe v a em nthaving disputes that they first check to make certain (with the' We suggested their surveyor) as to whether or not the easement e t ds rney or (as recorded with the Ramsey County registered further obvious that another option would be for them to S eS�f It zs easement rights which they have been utilizing for 34 years. The or their third optaon, we sugge�ted, was that of leaving the easem is and adjusting their driveway so as to ent as the garage, They have about 27-1/2 feet from de �ccommodation to property line, which was recently constructed b h theence on their This fence somewhat restricts access to the Y Adolphson's. an easement exists over this garage. However, if ��P to be torn down. It is a art of the site, this fence could issue of disputes between the ep two t that there has been a long private matter, over a private easemetpt �and t he user t which is a should be settled between the two of them in court or eatherwhich We noted that it is not the Cit s funct.ion to lse. services in these circumstances. y, � provide legai i�e suggested the option of building their own drivewa t they noted the existence of large trees in the yard mak hough somewhat difficulto The Bernhagen's �S thls �ronerty and simply want to clarify t}�e drivewae tatus 11 their conducting a sale. We suggested the Y �rior to contact the City staff further if we can �b� Sue these options and of assistance. C'� i � � 1 zI 2� 3'� 4� 5�� 6"'-, 7°_I 8^I 9=� 10 eI i l ~� 12 °� 13 -� 14 � 15 '� 16 t!« A }£04 B tl14 i�. �� D t� L E � F c�e G � H t,.o I to.o J ilt4 K ,.� � �ao � � � 2 ' � 3 � 4 $I ROSEYILl.E MINNESOTA PLANt�ING O�'FlCE iiOURS �`'`T'V-0 DAHl.GREN SHRRDLOW 3 UBAN � -�� °� ~ � 0�� - � � : � �;;� � : . : L�� ]O : C��O- C�� ?0 s 0�00�0� � 10 �I^ I I �I 12 $I�13 �� 14 al I . i 17 �I I 8 � i 9 �I 20 '� 19 al 20 'I , Q �oao 8 ��9 c r,b Q !s� E � F � G � H � I :o.o J ifro K �.00 . '� o � r� U � June 13, 1989 TO; FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SU�J�CT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Young (291-8711) June 7, 1989 Todd Young is an attorney who owns the small office building just north of the Sinclair site at the northeast corner of County Road B and Snelling. He is concerned about the amount of parking that he has on his site which consists of eight spaces for a building with 5,000 sq. feet of rent�ble space. The 5,000 sq. feet would normally require 25 parking spaces. In the building he rents to an art gallery, a travel agency and a beauty salon. He informs us that his customers have been parking on the Sinclair site (to the south) for thirty years and suggests that if that was abstract title, he may have achieved some rights. The Sinclair si�te is, however, a registered title which includes a Gourt process where a person who claims rights should have appeared. He is concerned about his loss of parking as it relates to the proposed development of the site currently under consideration. We noted that the proposed development for the site includes no extra parking capacity and thus, there is no "on site" solution. We suggested tha� he come to the hearing before the Planning Commission and Council and express his conc�rns if he so desired. We also discussed the long range implications and the City�s desire to redevelop the land, reroute the ser�rice road and vacate some of the right of ways so as to provide a larger development area. We noted that this cannot be done as long as the car wash site is worth 1-1/2 million dollars. We have examined that with Craig Waldron previously and there is no potential for tax increment at this time of sufficient scale to make a redevelopmerit plan work. Thus, it would appear that it wauld be appropriate to wait until some of thEse investments are amortized (or failures have occurred) before proceeding with redevelopment of the corner. All three of these sites are only slightly more than an acre, sa the potential for future development is limited. 2. G�rber (872-1069) Marlene Gerber is president of Midwest Community Hospice which is an organization designed to care for the terminally i11. She is a nurse and 90% of their clients are cancer victims with a rrognosis of 6 months or less. She notes that 5,10� die of cancer in the Metropolitan area each year. Hers is a non-pr�fit (non-tax paying) organization organized in 1985. Don Scripseth, one of the board members of her organization, was with her. They are looking for a site and have examined the northeast corner of Old HighWaY g and County Road C2. This is the parcel of w�' � part is owned by Jim Trapp, part of which is zoned and lch a occupied by the gas station that burned down a few yearsravo�usly suggested that her use for a new structure on this site w uld be very appropriate but there m i g h t b e a p r o b lem with the value o �� e l a n d an d soil proble m s w h i c h M r, f G e r h e r �n d Mr. Scri p s e t h. T h e y are g ing ltolexplore �h@ h M s. fur t her. We also reviewed the land use map of the C�t Site at other potential locations, y looking 3• Carlson (484-2983) Warren Carlson lives at the southwest corner of Judith an and proposes to add a 12x1G foot porch on the w�st Sgae d A�len house. This would be attached to a part of his house w.°f his expanded to the north and for which a variance was issued C�o�as within 12 feet of the Judith Avenue right of Wa be expansion of his existing home with a 14x24 f'oot famiior the addition. It appears that th.ey had the addi�cion of this y room that part of the house is porch to function well added anywhere l�e tly reasonable, and would not would be a likely candidate for a minorSvariance earMrthat this has lived at this site for 34 yeaz•s. Carlson 4• Reiling (483-1941) George Reiling was in to review a � portion of his land within the meanderplineb on the lwest�s •°f a Lak� Owasso. Bob Bierschiec� was in attendance as well to lde of his interests .in the proposed dedication as an acces review lake. Mr. Bierschied notes that the City has a 20 foo to the s�wer easement through the t storm could be converted to a ped strian naccess aeas men that if this provide another public acce:�s to the lake. Mr, t' this would that he would be willing to do that, but that he Risl�og noted about giving the 10� dedication which might cut off lot ncerned from access to the main body of water. owners Mr. Reiling proposes to cut a channel through the lil the rear of the lot which would Y pads at shoreline lots to the main body of the 1 ake C� Tn tialless for the approved by the DNR arid then •the a Y, this was that from a public purpose standpaint alhavingr the �han app�ars havinq the 20 foot access to it wou1d be in the nel and It was suggested, therefore, that it would be a public interest. Keel and �Ir. Bierschied to assist Mr. Reiling pin di cu si°r Mr. proposal with the DNR with the intent that if the channel can the approved, the easement changed, and the dedication made, that be would work best for all concerned. lt 5• Johnson (633-lggl) � Pat Johnson, Chairman of the Planning Commission, was discuss a complaint registered by Donna Hofineister who 1� ln to ives at 1455 Belmont Lan�e W., northwest corner of Belmont and pascal, on the east side of Har Mar Shopping C�nter. Her concern is that � the planting strip initially �st�blished at the time of the develapmEnt of Har Mar became "over grown" and a portion of it was removed when Har Mar expanded. That portion removed, was opposite Ms. Hoffineister's home. A very few small �carniferaus trees were planted which are tota].ly inadequate to perform the screening function originally intended. When the Har Mar expansion was appioved by the City Council, conditian #5 stated that "staff approved final landscape plans to include a neighborhood review which will address improvements to the screening and access areas." This review never took place. It was, therefore, agreed that the appropriate action woul,d be to contact the Har Mar folks (Nancy Nichols, Center Manager) and inform them of the need to conduct such a neighborhooc� meeting and to prepare design for the screening which will then be subject to City review. 6. Frohboesse (636-3311) Walter (Nick) Frohboesse was in with Kim S. Cook oF M�.nnesota Solvents along with Steve P. Ca�lson, attorney, Cecil C. Wille, of Wille Associates, Eng., A1 Hall, of Niinnesota Solvents and Wade Leistico of D. J. Kranz Construction Go. We reviewed their current a�aplication for expansion of �heir plant. Jon P�'isja, was also in attendance. Karl Keel and Jon expressed their ca�cerns regarding the handling of the provisiQns for spillage, drai.nage, � skimming devices, and ground pollution. Mr. Keel noted the interest in the watershed district and the need iar skimming facilities, particularly as they relGte to the ethanol products. We expressed concern regarding the delay of finishing the site in accordance with the ordinance. They note that the developz�ent: was done 15 years ago and, therefore, they slnould not be required to do all these improvements. We suc�gested that it was a11 the more reason why it should be brougl�t up to s�andard immediately and not be staged as they proposed i.n their current proposal. St also was the question of whether or not the development had been handled in accordance with the original p�rmit from the PCA. We suggested that in view of thFa circumstances, it would be best if they were to delay the hearing before the Planning Commission so that these thir�gs could be worked out in greater detail ar�d �to the satisfaction of the Ci�t;y staff and the PCA ultimately agreed to request a delay and did so at tk�e Planning Commissa.on rneeting that night. 7. Mundt (541-9143) Darrel Mundt wa� in with Brian Dahl to review tla� pc�ssibilities of their developing two lots at th� snuth�vesterly intersection with McCarrons Boulevard and Woodruff. These are two existing lots totalling approximately 14,500 sq. feet wherein they propose to change the lot lines so as to make �he lots more developable. � It appears that there is exist?ng development on 50 foot �ots within the area and thus the two lots would be in scale. Because the two lots are below the normal lot standard (11,000 sq. feet), the changing af the lot line involved here would require a lot � spli� approval. We re��iewed the procedures and requirements. Mr. Keel noted the changes in elevation and the need to handle the drainage through the rear portion of the lot. We suggested tha� Mr. Mundt review this proposal with contiguous property owners before proceeding, in as much as the lots will be substandard and are sometime objected to by contiguous own�rs. There would also be a minor variance, in as much as a reduction in the fro�t yard will be requested far each of the homes to be constructed because of the shallow nature of the lots. 8. C�ster (572-5757) Jahn Custer is in charge of marketing for Knutson Construction Co. and was in to review potential sites for busin�ss developmen�. We reviewed with him the Twin Lakes Area Development plans and the west af 35W development area. We discussed with him som� of the areas where it appeared land cauld be purchase� with part�cular emphasis on th� Twin Lakes Area. He is goi�g to examine various sites with the objective of acquiri�g developable property in Rose�ille. � � �- � � �i 2� 3� 4� 5 � � •�- - � �� A '�.`��'� :; ` � : �� , B J � !• t � . i j� ` F � � ` � F �: � ��'� �� - • r D ' �� r ts�o n-^— , � � � l E� - � � C,�.� � � �� ; si� F = :� � �� ;�� - � �I II /�� I � J �, .._.�... ,/ H `I�j = � i � �t � � � aiso ` - � �,�--� � � � � t •• � :wo :i, - —�,I i� � � -�"' �1--`� � � , J �� , i� .. � ��L�L-oJ � :�a�� 1 L� e�, ' � ` �s K � � M� 2,� 3'� 4� �.� •a �OSEYiI.�.E MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE l�IOUF?S � • �• �� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW S UBAN � �e��.�,�'�--x- �; .� � � -- - ._ . � t� a' IS �, 13 �. 20 '-i t2 � r3 i; ia s' ig ?:, i6 � i7 ${ is� � i9 =� 2� '; �� ,:� A � B t� C � D r..o E _ :,t; �_� c� G _� _� � � � t224 � J � �� L i K� `- � L L�..� � � � June 13, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Hale (636-3311) May 31, 1989 A1 Hale, Vice Fresident and General Manager fQr �irinesota Solvents and �hemicals Corporation was in with Nick Frahbo�sse, a Vice President and General Manager of the Milsolv Gompanies which is a parent company of Minnesota Solvent and Chemicals Corp�rationo We reviewed the current ��ans for their expansion of their site off Roseplace. We reviewed the building materials for the addition, suggesting that they be spec�fic as to the "concrete modular unit" in�icated 4n their plans. We also reviewed the need to upgrad� their site with hard stand for parking and driveway areas and the add�tion of curbs previously omitted. We emphas�zed th�se concexns regarding standard� of development in the industrial area even though this site is not contiguous to a majar vehicular traffic rout�, Karl Kee1 reviewed the Engine�ring D�par�ment's concern5 regarding con�ainment of sFills, including the �limination of a grav�l loadin� and parking areas where such apills can permeate into the ground. We sugges�ed that t�ey have a de£inite program for upgrading this site to con�orm to or�inance requir�ments, an� in cases where �hey pr�pase not to do the wnrk imm�diately, that there be a definite timetable and reason therefore. Th�se effarts are in relationship t� their special use permi� to be revie�ed at Jun� meetings of the Planning Commission and Coun�ii. 2. 3ensen (639-6335j Rob Jensen and Evelyn Hrieson of the new Raseville office of Edina Realty were in to di�cuss the �ossibility of �he development of the "Dove aevelopment sate" north of County Road B, and westerly of Victoria. This is th� �ite that has been r�vi�wed over many months by the Planning Commissian. These folks are contempla�ing taking over the dev�lopment, and ar$ considering up to 3 single family lots, one oE which would be occupied by the existing home. Mr. Keel reviewed with tnem the problems of sanitary sowage, drainage, and right of ways, and reviewed the variety of possibilities. W� alsa discussed the possibility of t��ere simply being only 2 lo�s, one of which could be considered as a duplex �ocation. They are having a meeti�g with th� neighbors this week a�d we suggested that they r�view these possi�ilities with the neighborhood. We also noted the importance of keeping the northerly most structure south of the north lin� as much as possible and as much as there �as neiqhborhood oppo�ition to this structure being "too close". We �lso reviewed the development p�tential as it relates to the neighbors to the east where at one time there was two of the faur owners interested in developing the westerly half of their deep � lots. T�is item has been tabled by the Planing Commission over the last several months and hopefully, will be brought to a reasonable solution s�on. We also noted our concerns about leaving any land lock property, in as muc� as there is a tax forfeit parcel that apparently Dove Development people have picked up �n the process of their development efforts. 3. Hess (489-0932) Roger ��ss, former Councilman and his son Frank, were in to review expansion pl�ns for Frank's house at 1�07 Shady Beac� Avenue. The propose ad�in� a new 3 car garage to the princip�l structure, and raising a portion of the hou�e for a second floar. The existing structure is set back �ppraximateiy 76 fee� from the wate� lin�. A11 th� development prpposals confarna to �h� ordinance requirem��ts a�d thus it is �im�ly a matter of Frocessing a shoreline development permit. 4. Gruber (489-4105� Gene Gruber and Greg ��ral� were i� to d�scuss the replacem�nt �� an �xisting garage with a new �arage at 1143 W. Shryer. �he existing qara�e is 21.4x21 fe�t an� �h� new garag� wo�ld be 21.�x30 foot. The existing �ause is se�back 3 feet �rom the pr4perty line in a 5 foo� neighborh�od and thus a minor varian�� would be required. We suggested tha� th� n�� g�rage �� da��lop�d � 5 foo� Erom the p�op�rty line, b� moving i� sliqht�y �o th� �ast which appears to �� workable as it r�?ates to t�e r�mainder Qf th� existing �rinciple structure. �his prop4sed d�v�lopm�nt will be an attr�ctiv� addition to �he hous� �nd meri�s po�itivQ Gonsideration aF �lag minar variance i�volved. 5. Wilson (2��-934�) Steve �ilson drop�ed by �o inP�rm us oP � r�struct�ring oP �he BrutgQs Companies and his new a�signment to daWelop "Day Sto�" BU�q�t Motels for the n�w Brutger C�m��ni�s. T�e ��y Stog pxototype will be 4� unit building� in tM� r�ntA1 ran�Q oE $2�- $2G per unit far sin�les. Wa reviewed potent3al sites in Roseville, including thQ sou�heasterly co.rner of �ounty Raad � and Long Lake Ro�d, where saver�l motel aper�t�An� have Gonsidered lacating ov�r the pas� sev�ral �ears �hro��h Jim �aztle��, contract owner of th� site. St�ve not�d his intorest in considering a Roseville location �nd will pur�ue tns matter iurther. 6. Mathison (296-9349) Sh�rman Mathison pro�Qses tQ ��ild a new 31x3� foa� gara�o on the northeast corner of �.is �ite. He proposes ta hous� his motar hom� and some cars which he �ollects. We reviewed the ardinance � requirements, easement locations and his preliminary concept plan. It appears that this development can occur on the easterly side of the two lo�s that he owns at this location. • 7. Gr�gory (941-0482) Arnie Gregory and his architect, Harry Olson, wer� in ta review design chang�s for the Can-Am praject on the Reiling site north of City Hall. They propose to us� ro�k face block for the exposed foun�ation �evel (parking ramp level) on the two apartment buildings. We note� th�� the use of concrete block �ad �ot been discussed in the process og t�� hearin�s nor in�ica�ed on any of the drawings and thu� f�lt th�t it was inappropriate to mek� fihis change without Cau�cil approval. They alsn proposed tc ch�nge the chimneys indicated �o be done i� brick to be changed to wood construction. Here aqai�� w� suq�e�ted t��t thfs would no� b� ��pro�ria�e in ag much as it r��reeents a reduction in c�uali�y. �h�y also not�d the Ghange in �h� construc�io� ot th� gables �ver the balco�ies, �liminet�n� �he reees� fe�ture of th� ext�nded roo� line by proj�cting the ��bia en�� aard� T��s repre�ent� a"more ty�i�al" �r�atm�n� of th� goo� �.in� o�rer the bei.�ony (t4� flcaar only, . 6�e �xpress�d our cor��cern in as much ae th� d�ai�n ch��n�es s�eaned to b�e l�ss ��tr�ac�iv� and le�� p�nsiv�, t�� rro��l, �nd others an th� �ta�t, c�ncurx�d ��t it tt��y w�r�r serious about makinc� such d��n chany��, tha�� th�y should �►r��ar� for pre�entation to �h� Cit}� Caur�ci]�, laut th�� the �ta�� aould not ran it� +�wn, consione �uctt �aigni�:icaa�t change�. Mr. �regnry furth+�r �ated �khQi�c prag�c�e� on th� siteF �nd �h�ir � con��rn r��ardi.ng tt�e timing Qf ti�c� �c�oan u� �pr th+� s�rui�e �ta��n eit� at thc� �outN�as� carner n� t�h� r��oj�c�. �ir. Wald�un no�ed th�t t�ma �imita �do �xist w3t,h r�sp�ck to th� d�y�lc�pmer�t of tha �c��l �it� �nd tl�a� �'�d�c�,a��+�ior� o� cl��ul�" i� � �o��3�b,��ity if� this e�leta€�nt af' tl�+� project is l�Pt unsch�dul�d m�nd undona, � �� May 12, 1989 • TO: Steve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOUFtS, May 10, 1989 1. Hale (636-7476) Scott Schultz is the general manager and a partner in the Hale Co. Inc. who operated at 1450 W. Coun�y Road C for many years. Their existing structure is a painted concrete block building with 800 sq. feet of office and about 3,250 s�q. feet of warehouse space. They are in the �us�.ness o� selling and maintaining gasoline pumps (for se�vi�e stations� and insulation of underground fuel tanks. Dua to new state r�gulations regarding underground tanks, their bu�iness is booming, and they propose to expand. Mr. Schult�z was ��n to ciiscu�s �he ways in which this could be don�. On� of their options i� to put up a 50x50 metal building on the b�ck of th�ir existinc� s�ructure. WQ also reviswed wi�h him the status �f the develo�ment of the sit� which lacFc� asphalt pav�d araas (in th� existing fenced stor�ge area) curbirag, �nd v�ry littl� l�ndscaping. We suggested that thay hire an �rchftect ta c�m� up �ith a new site plan � shawing the installation oP r►�rw curb�, p�rking accommodations, ar��s to be grassed and �.�ndscapQd, �nd more dletail r�g�rding the building with particul�t concorn to how � m�t8i building with a slope �oo� would be att�ch�d. Ws �u�ggc��ted that a masonry builc�ing mey bo tnore a�propriate, but th�t in any case, the ovcrr�tll ob� c�ct iv� w�s tn i,mprov� the le�e�. of ciesign and a�sth�ti� quality as a pa�rt o� any cievslopmen� proposal. He is going to hir� an archi.�act and �� }��ck tc, review solutiot�s with tho staf i. 2. JAckson (296�7�49) Anne Jackson ia a profe�sfan�l engi.n�er ar�d � staff person with th� Wast@ Inciner�to� Unft, Division aP Air Qu�ality, Minnesota Pollution Control Ag�ncy. ShQ was in with Greg Johnsor� of the Hygianic Service Sys�e� Inc. �nd Paul Stupinski. who is with Phillips and A�sociat�� who �r� La�andry Cor�sultantB. The�e are the folks who propose t� develap a medi�al waste 3.ncinsrator in Ra�eville i.n conjunc�ion with a laundry far inst,itu�ional clients. They proposed structure woulci be about 20,40p sq. feet of wM�ch 80� �o�1d �e far �he laundry and 20� for the incinerator. We had previausly asked �hese peapl� to hring samec�ne in fram �he MPCA to discuss th�ir contro� and p�rmit methods �and criteria. Ms. Jackson notes that ther� are 140 hos�pitals in Minresota with � existing medica), incineration units. �1ew developments are being r � U • prepared to regulate these units, though these have not yet been adopted by law. In �he meantime, the State is controlling the expansion or the development of new medical waste incinerators. The Mayo Clinic folks are in the process of preparing an application which may be utilized at the Rochester Airport site where they own property, and there has been a permit issued for the expansion and improvement of a facility at the Fairview Hospital in Edina. From an environmental standpoint, apparently the more significant problem is one of level of dioxins. She said the permit process would include the development of a EAW (Environmental Assessment Worksheet) dealing with air dispersions, emissions, and volume, etc. She notes that incinerators with less than 1000 pounds per hour are nor currently under control. The proposal for this incinerator is 1200 pounds per hours. Se notes too that about 30% of the medical wastes are plastic and burns from 8,000-10,000 BTU's per pound. 60% of inedical waste is paper. She notes that in most municipal incinerators the amount of plastic is more like 10% and therefore, these incinerators burn at around 5,000 BTU's per pound. She notes that they have a series of tests, most of which are taken at the stack (after the scrubbers) and they have continuous emissions monitoring. She notes further that the problem of dioxins is a long term one relating to exposure to the food chain. Thus, they are more concerned about emissions impacting agricultural land more than urban area development. In response to a questions, she notes that the disposal of fetuses by Minnesota law must be in a crematorium or by burial similar to a diseased body. Collections handled by a system wherein the hospitals, nursing homes, or clinics deposit the wastes in sealed impervious containers, which on the exterior is a cardboard box. This sealed box is moved by truck to the site where it is put on the conveyor and fed to the incinerator. In other words, no one at the plant opens or processes the sealed boxes. The proposed developers of the incinerator site have not selected a site in Roseville and are in fact looking for a site in another city. If they propose to go in Roseville, we suggested that they prepare preliminary open plans and that it might then be appropriate for them with Ms. Jackson in attendance to have an informal work session with the Council to explain the concept and approach. This would be preliminary to any formal action for approval for a special use permit. 3. Greenen (292-0115) Roger Greenen runs a helicopter company and is looking for three to four acre site for a helicopter base, possibly in Roseville. They currently operate out of Home and Field but would like to be at a more central location to both Minneapolis and St. Paul. They would build a structure for offices and maintenance and might be part of a larger development including office/warehouse space. It would have 10 to 12 pads for helicopters and an • additional space for vehicular ambulances, perhaps up to ten. He has admitted that there would be 10 to 12 landings a day. His helicopter services TV weather reporting operations, hospital • trauma centers, and corporate users. We noted our concerns regarding noise and safety and the limitations on locations in that respect. It appears that there might be some possibilities in some of the industrial areas of the City, not near residential or office developments. He notes that there are 16 heliports in the area and 22 in the state. A heliport is more correctly referred to in most cases as a"landing pad". Such a pad exists at Abbott, Ramsey, and University Hospitals on the tops of some of the major buildings in the Twin Cities and, of course, at the airport sites. There are some questions as to whether he could afford the land values in Roseville. We suggested that he not be part of the more intensive development areas now under consideration. The glide slope required for heights around the heliport pads is 8-1. He will look around the City at possible sites and be back to talk to the staff if he decides to proceed with any location in Roseville. 4. Kaupp (887-6148) Bud Kaupp is with the Super America people, and is looking at the possibility of building a service station at the southeast corner of County Road C and Long Lake Road. This is the old Ruan site where we were hoping to achieve a better development, possibly consisting of a motel and a restaurant at the gateway to the redevelopment area to the south. We have discussed these � concerns and criteria with Jim Bartlett who has an option on the land, and is proposing to sell a part of it to Super America. The problem with the Super America site is that it takes the best northwesterly corner of the site leaving an area to the south with power lines, and a far less attractive access condition to the remainder of the site. We suggested that a service station might be appropriate if done in conjunction with the redevelopment of the rest of the land. We suggested, however, that the service station development as he proposes it would make their development`. of the land far more difficult and less attractive and therefore, might be opposed for those reasons. 5. Snyder (378-7028) Bill Snyder buys vans for a dealer, and remodels them for handicap equipment on a custom basis. His company is called Coates Complete Mobility Systems. His existing space in Minneapolis is a 30x100 foot bay and he would like to move to Roseville. The question is whether or not he needs a special use permit for a car dealer. He has a dealers license from the State of Minnesota. Though he does not sell to the general public, and can in fact not sell a car unless he remodels it (he does mostly vans), it appears that technically he is a retail seller of vehicles, and thus, he should have a special use permit if he locates in Roseville. Under the circumstances, it appears that it would be appropriate for him to find a spot and process the � special use permit as soon as possible. He has no cars on display and he does all the work inside. Thus, this may be more • of a technical permit question vs. consideration of a typical dealership. 7. Janssen (623-9412) Greg Janssen is proposing a residential development for northeast corner of County Road C2 and Old Highway 8. You will recall that a part of that land is zoned business and is owned by Jim Trapp where a gas station formerly occupied this site that burned several years ago. He showed us a site plan for 36 units which appeared to fit well on the site except that the density exceeded that which would be allowed under the R-3A zoning. It appeared that approximately 30 units would be allowed. We su he refine the site plan further in conformance with the ezonint density to be reviewed with the staff at a later date. This site has a severe docuinented soil problem. We noted that if the development is well done, and cannot otherwise be accomplished without assistance., that there may be case for some support b the City through tax increment Y it would not actuall be Program. We noted, however, that land, though land c sts maycbec a oncern ontyhis write down the suggested that after a preliminary has been�p prepared demonstrating the developability of the land, that at time it would be appropriate to discuss financial aspects of the plan with Mr. Waldron. • 8• George (483-3212) Jerry George owns a residence at 320 Millwood and proposes a minor variance which would add a 10 foot garage addition to his house creating a three car attached is 17 feet and thus the result in se back wouldlbeC7rfeet instead of the required 10 feet. The conti uous city parkland and thus, there is not a qu s� on he eh of aspace between existing residents. It a a garage addition on at all, 10 feetaw uldhbe thehminimum widtht and under these circumstances, a reasonable hardship exists which would be workable for a minor variance procedure. 9. Stranik (224-2g21) Dick Stranik owns the Midas Muffler Shop that is now in the Rosedale Shopping Center. That sho was a from the original Dayton�s TBA (Tires, Batteriesa andaAccessories store) and was approved by the City without processing a special use permit, with the agreement that that Midas Muffler Shop be done in white with no yellow which is their normal design theme. He proposes to build a shop at the northeast corner of County Road B and Snelling. This would only be reasonable if construed to be an interim development until such time as the three substandard lots can be redeveloped and the service road • rerouted. That seems impractical at this time because of the extremely high price that was paid for by the existing car wash. Mr. Stranik agreed that if he develops at this site, that he � would duplicate the all white buildin a g pproach as he did at Rosedale. This means that the building would be brick but with white panels above the doors rather than yellow which typically is used for Midas Shops. He agreed that the dumpster would be inside and there would be no equipment on the roof. This proposal utilizes the existing building and is a shorta e of Puts an addition on it. There 5 parking though he may be able to demonstrate that the parking will be adequate. We suggested a change in the site plan of the parking arrangement so as to make it workable. A previous plan had inadequate aisle space for a portion of the parking. He agreed to revise his proposal based on our discussion, with the intent that if it is approved by the City, that it would be the best development that can be done for this kind use, given the existing circumstances. � � May 8, 1989 � TO: Steve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, May 3, 1989 1. Lincoln Properties (535-0080) Kaj Reiter was in to discuss the placement of their pylon sign for Rosedale Square North Shopping Center at the southwest corner of Terrace Drive and Lincoln Drive. The pylon sign will be 110 sq. feet and could be placed outside the perimeter of the parking area 30 feet from the south right of way of Terrace Drive, but only 24 foot 6 inches from the west right of way o� Lincoln Drive. The sign could be moved westerly to conform to both 30 foat setbacks by absorbing on� parking space. The problem is that the curbing has been constructed and the lot asphalted and both would have to be tarn up in this a�ea ta accomplish this move. The question was whether the staff could authorize a variance for the sign setback and we noted that �he sta€f does not have that power. Under those conditions, Mr. Reiter suggested that they may proceed to adjust the parking lot and build the sign in � accordance with the ordinance rather than delay construction to apprnximately the 4th Monday in June. We suggest�d that building it now in accordance with the ordinance, it would be the best solution. 2. Schoenleber (823-7843) Christine Schoenleber and her husband Michael are seriously considering the purchase o� a small twca story r�sidenee on the easterly shore of L�ke McCarrons, just north of the County park property. The house fronts on Shady Beach Avenue, and is immediately contiguous to the park property which is separated by a chain link fence. T� they purchase the house, they waulc� want to add a 12x12 porch �on the lake sade of the structure and a �ouble attached garage on the street �ide. Tt appears the s�reet side garage cauld be added and still be within the required setback line based on her dimensions with there then being 33 feet to �he curb. An attached garage cara be 3 feet inside the 30 foot s�tback line required in the front yard, thus �he required setback in this ease would be 27 feet. The existiny house is about 75 feet: �rom the lake sho�e, �3ecause th� lakesho�e anqles at this poin� (toward the northwest) the northerly part of tY�e house is actually greater than 75 feet from the shoreline. Thus, the 12x12 porch would extend into the 75 foot rec�ua.rement. However, if a porch is to be added t� this structure, it is apparent that this is the only place this could be done � effectively. They also propose to add a at grade deck contiguous � CJ � to the porch and attached to the house. This does not represent a problem. It would appear that the proposed development would be reasonable under the shoreline ordinance regulations. No trees will be removed and they intend to add additional landscaping if they purchase the house. Mr. Keel noted that they can build a new driveway (as they propos� to do) and that it can be a maximum of 26 feet wide across the property line and should be 5 feet from the south property line (next to the park). Mrs. Schoenleber noted that their new driveway would be done in accordance with these requirements. The Schoenleber's are a psychiatrist and physician team and they indicated their strong desire to live in Roseville at this site. They plan substantial improv�ments to the in addition to that which relate to the ex ansion property shor�line ordinance. p governe� by the 3. Swadberq (631-1798) Barb S�aadberg runs the local Burger King a� the southwest corner of County Road and Cl�ve�and. Several years ago, she was in to r�view the possibility of purchasing a srnall sliver of land which was owned by MNIDOT at the southeast corner of the same intersection for the purpose of using it as additional parking. She has now �o:�firmed that MNDOT does in fact own the land and that th�y will agree to sell it to her. We discussed parking setback requirements, access location anci proc�dures far obtaini�g approval to use the land for arkin appears that the land will be wide nough g touraccommodate approximately 15 cars or �ore which is i�er objective. Mr, K'e�1 noted that the lot would have �o be curbed and surfaced and landscaped in accordance with the plan that �he sho�ld prepaze at this ti.me. we nc�ted that parking is not a rather an accessor to a �rincipal use, but is Y grincipal us�, Thus there will have to b� a Council act�.on to allow for the use of �his land for parking pur�oses only ancillary ta the Burger King Rgstaurant. Ms. Swadberg noted that her employees now �ark on the service road across the tracks from them (south of the Burger King site). We concurr�d that this practice is highly undesirable, and that providing ior a parking s�ace for her employe�s wou�ld be a much �etter solutiAn as proposed. 4• Post Office We reviewed with the sta�f additiona�. criteria and concerns regarding the Po�t Office development for which variances have been ap�lied ior by Rosewood Prnperties. Additional information wil� be requested f orm the applicant regarding building materials, parking sta11 size, additional landscaping, and more specifi�s r�c�arding peak hour demand. This informata.on should be addec� to the file so as to provide a better basis for review of � � � ,� the Planning Commission and Council be�inning with the June meeting of the Planning Commission. � s�ro L Q 2444 a B= tl1Q � Ci " t7W D jip E �s F css� G cns H � I :o�o J �. a. a ` o �� R! 2� 3� 4� 5� g=+ 7:� g� g=j , 10 '� f I �; 12 --�``s i 3 n 14 � 1� ; �6 �� 17 � I 8 ; I 9 -j � 20 -i a !; K3 � � 2� 3� 4� ROSE�IILLE MINNESOTA PLANNINC OFFICE HOURS ��3•� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW d UBAN ==_ � '_"`r--�°r'�.�- �! w!2 ��13 :j 14 :' 15 s� 16 � 17 �� t8� � 19 :� 20 'j _ :�.o I � rt4s J � � L K � � � f_'Y) `- � L L Ift'J A' _ .r May 4, 1989 e TO: ;�teve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, April 26, 1989 1. Schultz (723-1244) Gene Schultz owns the 200 feet of residential frontage on the west side of Victoria which was recently turned down by the Planning Commission and Council for a division into three lots. He is back with a new proposal to divide the property into two lots. The northerly lot of 85 feet and a southerly lot (containing an existing hause� of 115 feet. The house would ha�re an 8 foot setback on the north side, but the entire neighborhood being platted before �,959 has a 5 foot setback. Perhaps this is the most reasonable solution. We reviewed procedures and requirements. The proposal would be before tk�e Planning Commissi4n at its Jut�e meeting. 2. Ruvelson (332-0007) Tom Ruvelson is wYth Sign Consu].tants and was in with his assistant Connie Hesse to review street signa�e f�r the �entre � Pointe developm�nt. Steve Gatlin joined us and reviewed the County's and his concearns regarding the stop signs ira particula�. It was agreed �hat th� stop sign i�self should be th� same as that used throughout the County, so �hat it is the exact sam� siz�, texture, and color. Siqn Consultants could prapos� alternate meti�ad� of supporting this �ign, other thar� the normal green u-channel, and �he sign mus� be placed at t�� stanciard h�ight, This agreemen�t will apply to all t�� stop signs on th� public str�et� which amount to four as we under�tand it. The oth�r signs, Mr. Gatlir� noted, could rem�in witt� the aqre�met�t that the de�reloper will main�ain and replace som� if �n�c�ssary. R� such tim� as that is not don�, if damage, they will be replaced with stand�rd City street sic�nae�e. 3. LeT'endre (G�3-6312) George ZeTendre, with Rasedale Prope�ti��o has �een negotiafiing with the Post Office fcar a ten year lease w$th z fiv� yea� leas�s ior facili�ies in their existir�g structure sou�h oi County Road B-2, bet�reen Prior and Cl�vel�nd. mh�: structure has 45,000 sq. �e�t of which the Post OFiice proposes to lease 20,000. The r�mainder, according to Mr. �eTendre, �.s an office building which i� �n the front portion of the sa.te, cansis�ing a� 12,p0� sq. feet. The Post Ofgice requir�s 9� stalls which leaves 40 stalls to serve the 12,000 sq, foot aific� building. The I.2,400 sq. � feet space has 5 spaces per thousand th�t is required. By ardinance would require 60 parking spaces. r � • Furthermore, they propose to provide 67 spaces for the Post Off.ice for GO drivers and 70 employees, some 930 feet to the north (across County Road B-2) at the north end of a structure owned by Roseville Properties. The ordinance allows some off site parking but not further than 300 feet distance. The 930 feet is almost three blocks and in inclement winter weather, could be a considerable handicap. The inadequacy of parking for the remaining portion of the office building is also a significant problem. We examined the site which indicated no new curbing, drainage, grass or landscape. All of the site to the east oi the building where all the parking is located, is asphalt except for the 30 foot wide strip along County Road B-2. Though the land is zaned industrial, r�quiring a 40 foot strip, a couple of years ago a 30 foot set�ack was approved as a variance. There is proposed to be a 72X20 foot dock constructed to the southwest corner of the building. All �ew exterior �alls wer� proposed to bQ raw concrete block. Mr. LeTendre noted that the east and west side of the existi�g building is stucco and �hat the office building to be rented to others in the �ront is brick. The division betw�en private parking and Post (?ffice parking is propased to �ie accomplished by a steel pipe rail. Car parking b�mp�r blocks were proposed on the front o� tho Post Offi,ce building {east side) wi�h asphalt between the bumper blocks (placed intermi�tentlX) and the wa11 of the Past Office. In o�her words, � ther� is no �a�dscaping or grass in th� �ront of this building �o enhance its appearance. The basic problem is that thc�re is not enough room on the s�te to accomplish th� parking and truck lo�dinc� are� and circul�tion. Ifi is obWiou� th�t a salution could h�v� boen to lease the �ntir� sfte, and p�rhaps rent out partions of the wa�r�hou�e �n �he back if n�cessary. Mr. LeT�ndr� notes th�t th� agroamerat h�s be��i re�ch�ed with th� Post Officc�, Plans at th� huilding d�partm�nt worc� st�m�ped F�i�ru�ry 28, 1989, and a mQ€�ting was h�1d �rith C�r. L�TendrQ on March 2 with Rick Jopka r�nd Mr. Wa�dron at which time� t�ac� �am� a.s�Ue� �r�r� ra�sed �exce�t �or th� lack o� grass) . We n�ted th�t the staff does not hav� the authority to qrant a building ��rmat fo�r p�rking th�t does not canform to �h� ordin€�nce in t�rms ot' numbers o� spaces and locatie�ns 4� oi� site paxking. xhe b�st solution is to redesi�n �he �ite s�a a� to confoxm or they woulci hav� to proceed with � yari�nce in as mUc� as the leas� may b� 2Q y�ars, it s�Qms �ppzopriat� t� tr� to do this righ� at this, st�g� ra�h�r th�n purposoZy procaed �ith suL�s�andard dev�lop�ment aesthetically and �unction�ily. The stafi noted that t�ie plan reviewed to�lay was �th� sam� that was discussed on March '7: �l. Johnson (339-2772) � Tim Johnson is an architect dc�ing an �c�dition t4 a hom� at 4A5 Turnston Court. The addition is on the north side of the existing structure where the existing setback is 60 feet. When the addition is completed, the side yard setback will still be 35 feet. The addition is more than 75 feet from the shoreline though the existing house is closer. 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K �.� M Lo i C� � � R� 2� 3� 4� 5�I 6=1 7�I s^� s=1 �o I �� 2 �! i� � �� i� , � A � 8 � C �,.� D �.b E �s F c�c G � H � ' SO�O J i�:o K � � � 2 � 3 ; �. 4 °I �.� ROS�'�ILLE MINNESOTA PLANNING OFFICE HOURS .�-•2b.8� bAHLGREN SHARDLOW d UBAN �: .� .;:... . � =) 17 �I 18 � 19 �) 20 '� a;"-�� d� L»--JU �i . ��v � ....:-_��-:;�.;_, -,�� . : �� ' ,� �_, _, � �� . • �;� � t_� L - -- o . . ��r—� �! � :5 ;: ��, ; �� :��_� �� ° r_��__ _.� � _ : ��-----.��OOC��O( � i(rl liil y�l ;I'l��I i,;I�l 1 � 10 �� I I �� 12 � I's �! 14 a) I 5 �� I 6 � 17 �I I 8 � i 9 �I 20 =I � �� B � C � -D - ti�0 =E ii[ � !� � G _ �s -H - ti60 � . 20 0 J : {9I0 .� reoo � �.o May 4, 1989 • TO: Steve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, April 19, 1989 1. Hillstrom (636-3181) Keith Hillstrom and his family live at 1348 Judith which is at the southwest corner of Judith and Hamline Avenue. They have an existing detached garage 16X22 feet iocated within two feet of the westerly property line. He proposes to expand the garage by adding 14 feet of depth which will place the back (southwest) corner of the site about 7 feet from the rear property line, and 2 feet from the west property line. He may also wish to make the garage wider than 16 feet. We reviewed the procedure for minor variance in as much as a variance would be required for the existing garage and the extension if it is placed two feet from the property line. The proposal seemed to be reasonable under the circumstances. 2, Bluhm (488-3318) Gary Bluhm lives at 1164 Sommer Street and has a 9 foot driveway • serving a 14 foot wide garage. He proposes to widen his driveway to a total of 19 feet so as to park twa cars side by side in front of the apron. This places the driveway within 3 feet of his easterly property line (whereas 5 feet is required). Gary notes that his wife has multiplesclerosis and that having this wider parking paci (for two vehicles) will be helpful in assisting his wife moving in and out of the car. Theoretically, the whole thing could Y�e moved several feet to the west, except that there is a large tree that will be within one foot of the driveway as proposed. We sugge�ted that he prepare a more accurate site plan indicating these conditions and the specific location of the tree that may provide �afficient grounds for a minor variance. He notes that his neighbor to the east has previously received approval for a 3 foot setback for his driveway. 3. Rogers (484-6001) Ken Rogers is a builder proposing to put an addition on the Gene Eickelman house at the southeasterly corner of Lake Josephine. The addition will be a 10 foot wide, two story base constructed between the existing house and the existing garage. The existing house is 30X36 and the existing garage is 22X30. It appears that this 10 foot addition will be no problem except that it may be fairly close to the required 75 foot setback required from the lakeshare to the structure. We reviewed shoreline zoning � procedures and requirements, suggesting that a more accurate site plan and a written statement be prepared for such a � 1 submission. • 4• Cave (482-9667) Sam Cave appears to be on the Skillman Avenue cul aden ach s uth nof atheingle family lot Elementar y Sc h o o l a n d C h u r c h si te. � Q r p u s C h r i s t i are platted at 75 fe e t a n d t h e r e h asT been�discussion tabo S t r e e t p ossi bi lity of platting similar size lots on the nort ut the Conceivably there could be eight lots, h side. proposes to develop the land into seven lots�W the�corner cave would be 100 feet, one lot would be 90 feet, one lot woul lot feet, and four lots would be 84 feet in width, d be 8g all the lots to the south are much smaller It appears that lots would be reasonable, o providing this mix of outstanding Engineering dev lopment on erns.ut that there are no 5• Guetschoff (444-6242) Dick and Bob Guetschoff were back to s�e us alon Grebbner, Ken Barthel, and David Wolf, both of whom With Joe Barthel Construction Company out of Rogers, MN. The are with very preliminary plan indicatin a Y presented a shopping cent�r and movie house comp ex utiliz n dethe °pment of a and Midwest Great Dane property north of County Road �Indianhead of Cleveland. The two sites are 9.82 and 4.6 acres, ' easterly development of these p , however, would r The join� � closing and vacation froPriore Avenue which is access to the PIK t�rminal site, e�uire the development and concerns re2ating to the °urr�ntly the We reviewed the historical portion of the Twin Lakes Area, and the r�e essity o�� ma •°f this the access to the PIK terminal site untzl such time as lntaining is developed, We sUggest�d that they may wish to that site with the PIK terminal people wi�h the intent �,� discuss this optional access at Moun� Ridge Road, Arthur Streetheir being Lane. Th,e other option would be to develop the Indi.a� �r IOna alone. The concern relatin to the nhead site suggesting a series of �� g preliminary site lan County Road C. We su �'ads along the continuous frantage of °ri the extremities of �he esiteat but not �on maY b� a site to the other. tinuously fromlone tax increment assistancey�nn ther dev�b o met�e P°ssibi1ity of any �he firs t s t e p w a u 1 d b e a practical and reasonable site e s t e d t hat which some estimates could be made as to tax incremer�t pla� f�Om if any. Mr� Keel noted that Rice Greek Watershe p°tential drainage poZicy, and the Cit �s d and Cit interim ponding southeas��rlyY of L ngtonn Lakel�n We�r additional history of the sites eviewed the Indianhead site ' a�►d the r�ezoning which occurred on the constructed severa reparatory to the retail years a o, propQsed but not conformance to th� recentlygamend de om� eh n ivepla �S�1 1s in �ut would, �f course nduse �1an� � Pre liminary Plat, roadway d ve lopmentp�draina�e a likel access consideration relevant to the PIK Termin y�'UD, 9 , nd, of course, al site. • 6. Dnistran (639-1665) David Dnistran is an architect/developer who is interested in purchasing the residence at 3076 Hamline, which i�� a 3.12 acre site occupied by a residence near the middle of the site. He is considering the possibility of redeveloping the land into three lots which would appear to be possible on the 375 feet of existing frontage. The house, he informs us, was built in 1925 and has been occupied by Dr. Bob Emmons since 1961. He propnses to get a survey of the land preliminary to pr�eparation of preliminary plat. 7. Lentsch (487-3275) Bill Lentsch was in to inquire about splitting a 100X300 fnot lot south of the service road on the south side of 35W between Acorn Road and Marion Road. His property could be split into �hree lots if access to the southerly most 1ot would be via a private road which extends to the 200X200 foot landloc}�ed parcel approved by the City about a year ago. The problem here is that beir�g � private road, it does not constitute appropriate frontagE to a contiguous new lot. We noted the possibility of additional right of way dedication and the development of public road which could provide access to the lots proposed plus additianal lots to the east. Under these conditions, Mr, L�ntsch may not proceed with the development proposal. � 8. Johnson (482-1420) Greg Johnson is with Hygienic Service Systems Inc. who proposes to construct an incinerator for medi�al waste and an institutzonal laundry facility perhaps in Roseville. With him was Paul Stupinski who is a"laundry consu].tant" with Phillips and Associat�s who are "enqineering management and operatinn consultants to the textile maintenancc industry" with offices a� 850 Hamline Avenue, St. Paul. �hey are looking for a site t� serve the hospital �nd medical clinic facilities in the Twin Cities with institutional laundry service comiained with d�.spo�al for "red bag" waste. They were thinking in terms of a 17,�00 sq. foot facility in the vicinity of 3.5 million providing 35 to 4� jobs. They note that the incineration aspect would ba the state of the art involving first stage and secQnd stage incineration up to 2000 degrees. They claim that with scrubbers and at these temperatures there is no odor and that the operation is environmental�y safe. They noted that they are working with Minnesota PCA wzth Ann Jackson and Dan Berg. We suggested that it m�ght be helpful if we could have a meeting with these folks at City Ha11 perhaps next week so as to discuss wit� them some of the opexational aspects of the proposal. They nc�te that 8 of the 28 hospitals in � the Twin Cities have their own facilities including the one most recently improved at Fairview Haspital in Edina. They have no specific site in mind but would be looking in the westerly • industrial area. They noted, further, that the Mayo Clinic is building a similar facility in a small town easterly of Rochester. They note that the existing facilities in the metropolitan area do not conform to PCA requirements with the exception of the newly improved facility at Fairview Hospital. They noted too that a site would be appropriate from 2 to 5 acres, and that 60� of the waste is paper, 30% plastic, and 10� glass, etc. We agree that additional information regarding the potential operation would be appropriate prior to meeting further. � � � � � �� 2 � 3 � 4 � 5 A � B � C tT�O D t.b E �s F us4 G � H uso I� ��o J ,.ro K � � � 2,� 3'�` 4 � �.� ROSEiItL�,E MINNESOTA PLANNlNG OFFICE HOURS �� • �� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW d UBAN G� ^„s,• .��__._.N r � . � i 7 �� 18 G I 9 p, � a: � � . i 20 'u I �' i3 $e 14 �R t5 ?� IS d!7 �g � Igj.�� . �q ��.20', �:��„�e:'.�,.•� � � � , °1 ! " A .,a... ,,,,, 8 � .�`„ C :,� — 6 ._ :=.� = E 7�i � �j t F ��R� G — � — H — � I � � J � r9tv -�� '' K 2` T �IJJ '� � L � � ��.� n U � 1�J .� _ �. April 20, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT� PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. LeTendre (633-6312) April 12, 1989 George LeTendre from Roseville Properties was in to discuss the conversion of one of the buildings they own just easterly of the gas station at the northeast corner of Cleveland. They propose to convert this rental office which is a special use i.n the The land is zoned industrial. This would be such t�.me as portions of this land can be ultimat�, more intensive business potential. 2. MN Solvents (870-700G) County Road C and structure to a car industrial district. an interim use until redeveloped for its Representatives of MN SoZvents were in ta review the expansion of their facility on Roseplace where they hav� been p�ackaqing liquid chemi�als for 15 years. `rhey propose �o acid a malecular sieve which upgrad�s motor fuel by adding ethanol, man�ufactured from corn. This is otherwise known as an octane enhancer. Jon Nisja �tas with us discussing this proposal anci reports that this operation is properly done and is not a fire hazard prob�.em. The good thing about this a�eration is that it utilizes midwest corn to produce al�ohol and it is this pr�duct th�t is added ta ga�oline to increase the octane of gaso�.ine fuel. This is a special use in the industrial district and will require prQcessing of special us� permit, unless �he original sp�cial use germit issu�d had no limitation as to scale, in which case the de�r�lapment could proceed without processing and a separate permit. �tick Jopke tried to find this permit but w�s not abl� �o do so at that poi.nt. 3. F�osvold (229-2710j Randy Rosvold i� with the MTC and was in to revi�w th�ir �relbmiflary r�sults oi theix� analysis oE th� potential for r�locating th� bus terminal �t Rosedaleo It aPpears that the �ost reasonal�le location will ba nor�heasterly of th� main structure nearest the �en�ranca of Carson Firie Scott. This long exis�ing w�lkway would �rovi�de a terminal point for th� bus�s with their terminal at Rosedale. It also appears that the bes� location for the park �nd ride facility is in the lacatian wher� it was befare and �H�� x� r��ar the southe��terly quadrant ef th� sk�opping cen�er. We sugc�ested that they work directly with the Center Companies to come up with an appropri,ate plan o� which should be part of the ultimate developmen� review of the Rosedale expansion. • „�, • 4• Steiner (484-7936) Greg Steiner lives at 409 Woodhi.11 Drive and is concerned about an accessory gazebo that was constructed in the residential lot behind him at 422 Iona Lane. This gazebo is built above a platform which appears to be very near or over the height limitation for an accessory building which is 15 feet. Based on pictures furnished by Mr. Stein�r, it a dominates his back yard and he is concerneds about thesimpact� Gordy Beseth reviewed the buildin height was listed as 9 feet, g pe�it and found that the height as measured from the platforms of h chlth is tructure ect built. �ordy Beseth wi11 recheck the height. Mr. Steiner inquired also as to the possibility of raising the height af the fence if the structure is found to be legal as built. The permit for the gazebo and deck that supports the gazebo was issued in June of 198G. 5. Guetschoff (4�4-G242) Dick Gu�tschoff was in with his son �ob and Joe Grebbr�er to review pot�ntial locations for relocation of the Rosovill� 4 movie scr�ens which curzently are in the same structure o�' the Rainbos,r Food Store on Larpenteur. Mr. Guetschoff ocvn similar theatres in Anoka, Apple Va11ey, CambridgQ, E1k River, and Roseville. Th��r sp�cializ� i.n second run movies, four to six � weeks after they �are �hown at Har Mar and/or Aavilion. �,t� review�d potenti�,l si�es in RosevillQ, �tnph�sizing th� �re� along County Ro�d C betd�r�en Snelling and �SW, Craig 6��ldron revi�wed d�velapers pot�ntial�y int�resteci in workanq with th�m �s ��ossible joint ef�ort in the Caunty Road C corridor ar@��r�hQy are also laoking �t a lo�ation an Fairvi��d, south o�' P�acific Mu�ual Door, as a�ossible location. �'hay dr�sir� to st�y �h Ros�ville �nd it �p�cars that tha R�►inbocv r�mod��,ing will actual.ly taka ovQr �ddit�,onal major portion� oP the oxigt�t�g structur�. � �� 2� 3 y 4� 5 A t444 B [!�2 C � D L E � F i� � H � �wo ' J �.ro K � I i 2•� 3' �` q a 1100 � � � ROSEYtLLE MINNESOTA PLANNItdG OFFICE HOURS � • �� DAHLGREN SHAADIOW E UBAN � 6 � 7 �� 8 -.�� 9 �; �� ' �� • �: 9 �' ��.� M� � � � 66 � i�' µ° �� 96 � 1'� -`; 06 +� �7 �; �j8, « 69 «; 20 :, 1 . u . rr � — ` _= C CE7 — D — � �+ � ,,,..�, s , r.3 u ,� t.••�,,,�� ' dl. �t. � � f ...... :— , �� q s� =a`� l i �--_ � � �°�y= -�,� � �..,. _ �... �.. � ;:, �,��,,, ,p- � � � j$q : t ¢ — � � .-, �. 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" .: 2 � 83~'t. __ a� �': �� :� �6 � 97 e !f3 � ~ B� 4 � y. .-- .. �� a' � "" � *J� c. � � �u � � April 10, lggg T0: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT; pI,�NNING OFFICE HOURS, 1• Bestrom (�29-9409) Aprii 5, �98� George Bestram, consult�nt for the CehtrQ Companies Ma Ro�edale, was in with a team of , nagar oF dev�lopme�t of the ex�ansion pl�ns �o r�Ro�ed�le�ist�i� g in th� Mr. B�stram included: St�v� Prath�r and Dennis p�o�� w��h A�ehitcctu�rQ A11 i�nce Comp�ny, poug Sh�nt� And Jim I.�rsoLaF�rar�ce, Comp�ny; Dcan ��iley, l�nd�cr�po �rchitoct; K�n ��Q�$t� n, CQntrA Elliot �nd ��endrickson; �nd pavQ Kos�;i, e�rton-�►�ch�� r, Sho�°t� cansult�nts. nnr ��c Pl�n� fc�r thc� c�x��ns�on c�� Ro��d�le �c�ntQr, incl canvertin� oF �ha raui�t�n� A�yten'� ��or� ,�n � u�� th€� buflc�inr� �nd tP�Q con��uctlon o� A nc�r� D�yCon°s ,��o �Q� �Qn�n� ramp t�avar �eQn �ilad �+ith tty� C�ty a�Ch t�� ob fl ��, p�lu� ,� r�vic�radl K�� h� Al��y 3rd r�c�+�tlr�g o� thc� �i��nin� �an��8a� b�ing tho P1�y �2n�! ��rc�e1�+� a� t�e ��t� �r�ur�eil. �'hQ u� o� ��on �nd a�Qatinc� �r�� ta rc�o�f�r�} �h� d�e��e�o��a+�r►� �� c� af �h.t� N�� Q�n d � ��d � � �rope�� 1 �, o�u�h � � a�f� � e� t�� tN� '�� ` �' � � Co�� t� � ec�� h�� e � �� ro� no��+� Ro��oa� �A�1 � t�c� r��tin fi�R ��i� �2'�a ��tr��- o f �u �a�� e��i�� r� � � �� t�� t� � a�� n� �hc� ��u � �� Rvsccl��a ��. �o�c� Ir��ts��l �9r. #�a��r ��i�� t��t� �t �t�e��irte�� tl� �lis� ��D"i`C �n� �'�� a�+� t�>��1 r�u ��e��+�� ort�nt ti�� eij� ��i•c�Ie�.�� a� t��r t�u� ��a�t�� n� � 99�atc�� liE�� :� t"�C��? �`��'��j�" ��' �� +�`��' C`�i1C��, �A��1Q�' �11�1i1 ��P�� i�� €�fl� �l�� c�. �'N�uc�t� �t�� aa�� o��r�� .�ua��€�C��i tt�� h� N�� i � i n� � � th�� 1��:�� a��d�i � � � � � u�z � � h�£s�h ��i��+��, �� r��d �h�+� � �� +�t �r a�e�a�ne��t� �t��:�� i � ��e�� the� �� hauic� �� caun� �o ��ar C��r, �� t��t f�+��►�a�� t�� i�� g�n�� C�� e�tio� �� .l��d �� +��t��, �t�� t�� k l��ti�n. �i�°, �# ;��at�� 1 �i�� tt�+� t��a��l �ng �� he� ��k �n� �°�� a�+�� g�t�ar� ��c�niP��n� �r�t�l��, �� lar�� c�;� Ch�g� m�v� �� h� �� no� ,� h€�w� t��n �i�ac��l d��n gA (�� l�+�� la�ci�r�� n� unl��d�nc� ca��t� ��, �� cl �� g�h�� aa-��d�. �k �r�� r�� a � tti� �� .��ara�Q �� t� � � k�u�� t�c�r u��f � th�� t��ha� 4�M�i�� m��t��,�no� tca r�ai��a ��ti�� pQO��Q t1t1C� tv'� 6a"�� f};C' 1� �iCal11 ��f2�'Q• � 1�� 11!? i�`I`� tli'�� "Tis` t?avo h��ki ir�d.�c�tQci � Q1'��'�h�Q � north i�ram not�� ,�± *.: �� con��n, tl�� t� �`oun�y �Q�cantl tt�@,ii- op�o:�i��Q� to ��► Fo�ar w��r in�Qr��ctior� � o��rt�n � i�rl�aetr ti�►� 11 l�c� mauod � to �t�c� �ew i�� rc��Qnt �o��ion. wc roviaw d� �t�c��ct th��t ��1� traffic consultants involved in this d�cision to place the Tanurb • main entrance oPposite the Rosedale main entran�e, was agreed upon by all concerned, with the inclusion that that was the best design �roposal. We suggested to change that at this point (close the Tanurb access off Fairview) woul� be a catastrophQ, and would terribly unfair to the Tanurb people who made maj�r �dju�tments �o m�ke this �ntranc� work. Mr. Koski �nd his p�op1� feel that the inter�ection a� currently proposed will wo�k, thou�h it �� 1�� com�lxc��te� if �ho �anurb entr�nco i� �lo�ad and tha Ro�ad� 10 antr�lr��e, to �'airviow ��m�i�s as a T- intcr�ection. ift�. Ko�ki� K�rl Keol �nd othors wii� me�� with tho Count�► ta �u��uc� +�hi� c�uG�tion. K�n t�9�i�t�r c•c�v_i��1 th� ut�l�tieB Ch�t �9�. i��ca� not�nr� t�h�t thc� raroutinc� o� �� na� +��Cer: 1 inc�� a�oill occu� irr �t�� a��dor b�t�oan thcz n�cy+ p� t�; i ng r�r�� d tte� n�� 1 d i ng . �'hu�, � I 1 �in�� i11 b� �a4�II�I�iQ �� 6�intQnancQ, �4�. �1c�i€�t�� l�o ��:�d Ch�t �� a��x 1�� tl�+� �i �•� ��a�r�t��l , �1��e �h�r� s�i 11� �� hc� nc��t�l �� l�r�� r �11 �t,Q bric�e�c�� r��nc� Iths� ��r�� t�� r�w�� t-�r�a�tur�, ��! th�t �h� c�� d�ier�s,�� car� �fi�� gr�� l ��r� 1 a[ �h� �•ti=�r�� f s�� i��l�� aa� 11 �� 1�� 1 �F ��t�.��ut;a�l ��r��4�� h�� tha h��vlc��,� 1�� fi�l��ir�� c�c��i��nt. .A�c� ��j.� �� 1: �� t�� d��i�p��r�t p�I�r►� rr�a� �� ►�� -a;� o��t��. C��n ��il�� •��+�� hc� ��ai��°y► ��t��l�� a�� tti�� a��l��+� �t�� r��a�� € �� 1�1�� tl�� °�� k�� a�k�tT �� o�� a�o- '�'�r�� a�� rr.�� €� ��i�l�� {�r�� i�� t� �� i�n�Q ��a� ��r�� a�� i l �� i��.:�►��. �"t►�� a� � l �le� �� i��r1��e�+� ��s�c��a�� e�+� �� r� vo�a� �r��=��r�� o�*��N a��il �� t�� 1��# �� r�a�� . �,��o��g� ��a��. �� "� i��li�� v� �� I��+�r� �t��.��1 �� ;� ��,•t� �� ;.��rr"� �r�� c��n�n� �c�€� ��l�d�� • ��:� ��t�l�l�� ,��a�� 1� g��a�� +�� i�a��i�� r��i��o��t�� ' �ti� ��rr��°� ��.,�r��:. ��h� �t��,��:�:� l,�� v�«��-� ��; �t►€ �•�►c��? a��1� �ri � � �� a c��i�c� t�l�b�p�s� ��,.a��, �� 1�� o �i�� c��a�� °��r�� +�r�� v��tt°+��i�o� ��►� :>��8��2��a '�`t�� t��a 1�� tt►�r� �il� Q�� 4rt��t�in�l ��k ��_� 1��§�°►��f� �te�re t�O�� r��t� ��c�� H�t. �„•� ��8 ;�ri�t �'�� t�€� ,��rc��a��r��. "i't�� a�� a3+�l�i��{� i�� 4��-i��oj�� a��l i�� -'�h�r��r, '�t�� a�,�c,�� j�:.#1��el� ��E �b�� e��r�i�n� a� �� r�� t��yj��}� �� er t1�� '�i l �� r� �r��! �� n�l�� a� �h� ��r»��i�� h� ��r t�+�r t�� i��l i �� 1��1, �'�� c,� �I�� t��t��+� �� k�� ttrc� f��t�� •l�.ir�� ►v�.i1�t��+� tf��au�tr�u+� 1�h� �r��+��, �n� i�� ►��•��►t= �l�tr�rr� �1�� }��c��: t�c�lid�y ��t�. F�i��: d��k�+ �r►�# %, � ti ;� �`lE'� � s� w A rN w=$ 4 c� W a�•°. a� � a• i il- l. 4- ►. A �. ►- y.., �► -. ¢ ,+ � : �.. t �.r r � �r+ e� p• t-. �s e; t� � 6a we� ♦ 'As / 's �, I M tL Ilii W � � { � 4� �i' � 43 �A 1Gt � K. E) � �. �' �7 il � � C��n��l w��k ��:e��n t�n�,��v��+ �ctt��i►al��l �� A;�n=�1 1��N. � re��c�tlt�a�•t�e��i m��t�� ^� �.�nt4��.i��y� ��NQ�u�l��l �o� A�� Qtt�. � � �he basic statistics for the center is a thousand (the City req, res 5.00 per thousand)nfloorlratio�with � parking ramp of .47, wi�hout parking ramp of .40. .50 is ma ' in the ordinance. Lot cov�rage will 19.5 without the ramp Xland 25.9 with the ramp. Maximum in the ordinance is 25.0. The �otal plan am�n�ment is subject to Council review as per tne shopping c�ryter district establish�d with `his r�gui�ement back in 1959. 2. QY�u��;n �q87-25p2) �'�d ax�u�cn i� th� owner of th�e Standard station at the nor�heast cotnQr af Fl �nei IJ�.IQ where he has h�d nQw t�nks installed and �°�� m�� 8� • 1lctually, Amoco owns thQ l�nd �ncj �� i�i i t�g � nr� �'�c� o�,�r�� the bus i nes� . ��h��od thc� cor�mccci�� k�u�ldin� �� the north�s�Ne br u�h� in�a p�an �r��a�� , �,�opa�� c��,�y ovur tha Four nQw pum� isla�nd�. �+'a� ��l��in�c� t�ti�a d�vc�lo�n�nt re�ul�t�ona �as it rel�tQs t� �Qrvic� �t�t k�t� �.�� h��t �cic��i rlc�ht c��' ar��+ will bo rcr�ui�Qd for� Cour��y �tcr�d ��tn� �E�l� �tr�at � i0 f�ac�� o� Q�ch) . 10 fec�� of �itt�ifc�t�.c�rt �f� [�,�I� �t�e�c� (a�c�� fcle� of his lotj will b� � ��n��fe��t ��c�k�l��, �fiacr�� 10 �a�t alonc� County B��n ib� t�e�o�ar��fe�t,��. R�c� �c�c�g�� t��r�t �ca l�i�c� �n ��ehi��t to prQ�� 1 i��n��g� �� `a� �w��►� �� a�hi�t� thc� �ervicc ��Ation c�n be ��«��l��s�� r��r�i�� a t�l�� inan�o t� thca Qxtc�nt tha� �i� �'��`��'��'��. ��^� ��€�t�d �h�� 1� t�.hcr l�n�d �a �h� north i� to Ib��r�� z��=� o� �r:i�.� �i�r��l��n� ��-og�o�r�l, th��t th�t l�nd �houl.s� �aQ �1�� t�� r�� t��. I� ��►s��r� th�� bQ�t�� r��a�� o� !�� +�t��a�¢�� %t� �i� dlon+�. p�rkica� �x�"��i�� R �� '��trd�r�� a� the �f�c�}�arh�eh�wil��ac�ui�� e��l�i�t�� a=�t•D�:£��. 7`!�� ,��' a�igl t�� r�u�aa�ir�g �h� ��u� m� t�� t�� .�� r��• �f�� Il�rt�an. '�"hi� �or�: ar�� dorre �� €�� i��! ��.��=�x �� r�� te��►+� E�� F�p�pt��p��t� ��rni�a� �ul ic�d, I,n ��ey ��;�, �1�� 3�� :Q� �� t�iz� tinea i� ta ��x��inc� �� i�r ��1r��0� �t�� '��=t��3 ��a� t�� iu��at•ca�� p�•o��iine� f��• Ch� ��.�t�I�� 6��,� ��ci K�e��d �i=��c�.=��:� ��l��sa��r:: rc��e��r�� to thc� �a��t d C �� =R�� . e� d,�� n��t�l�. ��r� ��«��r� i��:� t��er� on �h� � � �� ,�r�� ,�a�� }: �� ►t� � �� ur �C�+� �ca�� an�l�r ?�i� �� i r� � �� m�,rt . �� f�� C��-�"��j �� i3ux �� ,i��n�� vi�i��, �� `�'��c�� Cc��r ea�� in w.�th ��W�'�!! 6 K�! hfl�� +:!lf�k/�A�s.i.Y�� '��! �s�� l 47,cW 4 F.li�� +E'll�,� ��4 �+`� � ��, ��?��! �� r'��`�i��-�1 �11C?� �t ��1 �A��f:��i�`�� '��t�1� ��a . �LuX ��rs}��}� � a �l�u� i �� lr� ��r��c1 i�� et�ool � i t� ar�� p��c�nG a ��a-c�l �n��R�� g��r� �r��Ea��ti�� t�� d�u�lQ�am�n� �� t?�� l�n� witt� ��o �Ce�� C+�� i�ur��A �i�lit �r��,� to � ��ac:�urQ. �� ar�it h�� e��r��,� ��r��c�� n�9 t��tz��1�� c��rE�ge�. t,tnit� ir�cluc�o on�, two, t��r�3 kt�t�c�� I��e��r� �,��.�t�;� t��l iy 21� unft�, [�c�n�lty i� �� ak�out ll un�t� �� t•�. '1`l�� .3r� k��8�� 4aQ1.1 ��n�a�vod �i�� p�ir o� par�� :zl�� ti�� ,��«;; � �� Q ��rc�4� r�n� � �.�m 1� �e�Q �}��rn r.�Rn�ir�� c•�m C��a �t��t to Cc�unty I2oAd i�. A c1�b house � w�.tle �a�l � ��`t1111:ai �n�d o�a�r� �,��e i� �ro�o��c�. mMn unitis we�uld k�Q ��t�tx�l .�r�ei n�� f�r �t��. �'ii� �e�r��xty c�i' 11 �ni�� per �c�� n �J � compares to the previous proposal (by Brutger Co.) of 12.8 units per acre. We reviewed paiking accommodations suggestion that there should be additional spaces other than those in front of the garage units. They displayed pictures of other developments which they have done in the area which includes 498 units in Bloomington on 106th Street and 35W (northwest quadrant) known as Devenshire Gates. This is the old WDGY tower site. In Minnetonka, they have a 396 unit project known as Chasewood Gates. Rental ranges from $600-$900 per month. Mr. Lux reviewed the tax increment potential with Mr. Waldron based on approximate acquisition and development costs. They will continue to pursue financial and development concepts, and will be back for further review prior to any formal action. We also discussed neighborhood contact and involvement at an early stage. 4. Gregory (332-5544) Arnie Gregory was in with Greg Buell, landscape architect and landscape contractor. Mr. Gregory noted that he had proposed to give $10,000 to the Parks and Recreation Department to be added to the $10, 000 to be contributed by the VFW for the development of the ball field and park site. Mr. Gregory noted that they would grade the site and construct the burms and leave the sodding and landscaping to the City utilizing the $25,000 proposed. We reviewed the landscape plan for the prepared vestibule for the site which includes 12 foot Norway pines increased 3g to 41, deciduous trees iner�ased from 1-3/4 to 2-1/2 inch diameter, plus 370 shrubs proposed for the site. We expressed our concern regarding the landscape plan in as much as it indicated a significant decrease in the open space around the entrance and between the shopping center area and the apari�ment site. We suggested that they revert to the plan that was approved that indicated a more spacious arrangement here. Mr. Gregory noted that perhaps the plan had shifted b�cause of the need for larger ponding to the far northeast corner of the site. We suggested that they reconsider their revised plan with an emphasis toward keeping the spacial arrangement as approved in the entrance area. We also talked about their proposed sign wriich is appropriate and the landscaping would be back rather than closer as indicated on the landscape plan to date. Mr. Gregory agreed with the desirability of maintaining the space and land area shown on the original plan at the entrance area. He agreed that'this area of the site is important to the amenit� and marketability of the site. L , 5. Albertson (636-0340) eSkip Albertson of Rosedale Chevrolet (the Manager and Partner with Tom Grossman) was in to review his development sketch showing the proposed use of the land requested to be vacated on the alignment of County Road C2, immediately west of 35W. This plan is submitted as part of the proposal for the vacation of County Road C2 as recently requested by Rosedale Chevrolet. This plan was presented at the shop Planning Commission meeting and approved subject to conditions by the Planning Commission at their April 5 regular meeting. Conditions proposed include curbing the parking area on the site, installation of curb on the public street on the west side of the property (Long Lake Road), reservation of a public utilities easement for drainage and a water line, completion of land�caping and sodding as proposed. The land will be developed and approved upon completion of the vacation action. � � �� I R� 2� 3� 4� 5 � � _. �. e�� b OC n.. }�20 1t:�1 : ' "' � i, . � I�. ! �' il A �� .� � f. J J � � - �� - �`. . .�. : B J ' � f � % " -r 1� �. m�1[� • � =�o - � � /:�;i�;� ��y ) t � i �,L _ t . 7 Y.� �. ____� Y;�--�� _ � � � �� -� � � I' j :: Q �_.� r : , [7W / a Q -�~:/ � _ D . � � �,� \ � �- ' �____v__ .- '�i� E a � �.. 'a• a��l.:L.�� 32 � .� , . F � ��» � � � �� , i �� F � � �'�� e� � = y � � G i'I f � : • � � � II ,' � . _.�~ ~ �� y f �. fi ' l/ _� " i � - � �� _ � �� jl � ' ' .J's� •(�w �� t' � . .. � :,r =ao -l; � c� ��-�.---. _ � =i � � � - ��a�� `� � � `�� :� 0 � f ��, �C�l___oJ � � � ��-�; ��n f l' K t��,IL��CI� ' �� .t�� ,� ii � � , �ao � � �� 2 � 3 • �t 4 '� 5 � 6 �� 7 � 8 �' ROSEYI ! LE �, -:i��_� '�°'---�'� ___"`�-- MINNESOTA REVISEO DATE :-�-�: PLAt�iNING OFFtCE HOURS n:6: ' '— ...,_., .. ��a � ��',�;� a" n �:� ) �•I1-11 F� 1��I • IS•3'�J .0 �-��•. s.• DAHLGREN SHARDIOW 3 UBAN w� 6 a � � 17 -j 18 � 19 �, 20 'i '�, f � �. �_. i:� �iro i.' '�AV" Q _+ w5_�• )t/y) ,�^� . B �:.•-;a �� y ur� � �-- c i '} i � Z�64 , D ;i � _�-- r..� '' I `� E �)i `Li � �L; � � �ia'� G � --� H __� � �: � l �� - - � �^ J ..a�• isro � :� :i� K . ; L•..s_.f�grv� ,� ,�____— �r-1� , �.�I �\, iti ,.r� _ .�1 �i ...»....•��' r�''.-� ^.�\;� `t'Q'.; � �.*t � � '�' t�,,,��.i �� :, * �`�:, �' f � �; �= k - �- �� _ --� . -� : . --� tft4- --''5=.--�.--aw._s�—.-r--��;,7s�+Q�t*�?CS'%--•r��•-�--.� ��.+�.+f+tr'.�'sir�:�. 'w�+�'..1.�—� ' iseo :�_ �� p'. „'i�'..�. •u" ��r . , z�—� j �� .1��: �(� � __�'�L._ � �� 5-.�. --,��;, --}'�� 1 �. i't '� �� I �I �i �j� li �:�i i� �; �;, � i0 -== i I � 12 � 13 �j t4 �� 15 :� I� � 17 �� 18 � 19 '� 20 =) • � � April 10, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Wolter (636-7990) March 29, 1989 Robert Wolter is the General Manager of Rollins Oil Company, located south of County Road C just east of the Hertz Pentz auto leasing operation. Their large warehouse and office building is set back 100 feet south of County Road C. This area is totally asphalt having been built back in 1957 before the new zoning ordinance was adopted. In the front of the building, th�y have a large loading facility for bulk oil, moving the fuel from the tanks on th� east side of the build�ng to trucks at the loading station. They propose to remove this station and put it on the back end of the �ro�erty. They propose to build at that location, a new service station and canvenience store w�thin the structure itself. They a�so propose to move th� tenants from the existing offices in the front of the building and to put their new offices in the front. Their current offices are on the back of the building. They have prepared no plans at this time, but are considerinq conducting a mark�t analysis to see whether or not a service station facility would be workable at that site. We reviewed the el�ment r�gu�ations with them regarding �etbacks� landscape areas, c�rbing requir�ments, access po$nts, construction r�quirements for pu�� slands, etc. t�e emphasized the City's concern, now that we are larqely r�develo�ing older properties with building g��ity so as to enhance the ov�rall appe�rance of the City. Mr. Wolt�r agr�e� that if they �roceed with this project, they would ao it w�ll conforming to th� 2p foot setb�ck for parking and Qther requir�m�nts. W� sugg�sted, th�refore, that they proceed with their market an�lysis fi�st, and if that is favorable, they should prepare pr�liminaxy d�signs (first having hir�d �� good �rchi�ect) to be r�viewe� with the st�ft at a further poxnt. We not�d that a service station requires a s�ecial use permit in an industriAl district which would have to be proc�ssed as part Qf this redev�lopm�nt procedur�. 2. Schuitz (7z3-12�a) Gene Schultz is tt�e party who �roposed the lot division befare the Planning Commission involving 200 feet of irontage on the w�st s�d� ef Victoria Street. He pr�pQses now to simply divide the existing 150 foot l�t into 2 lots. He had a survey done confirming that the existing house is well within th� required set backs on a 75 foot lot which constitute the southerly half of the 150 foot lot. The 50 foot lot that exists to the south would simply remain. All the lots across the street are 75 foot in width so this appears to be a reasonable proposal. We suggested that it is possible that a 50 foot lot could be added to the 75 • foot lot in the future and that a duplex might be considered. This would thus produce a duplex on a 125 foot lot. That is only an option that may be considered for the future. Mr. Schultz will be bringing the revised proposal back to the Planning Commission, and he submitted the required drawings as requested. Mr. Keel and the staff went to loak at the lot. �r. Keel has prepared a memo for the Planning Commission and Council regardinq the drainage question that was brought up at the Planning Commission meeting. 3. Tramm (633-17G0) Marlin Tramm is with Dove Development who have proposed the divisinn of land on the property north of County Road B and westerly of Victoria. He proposed now to simply dividQ ths parcel into two lots, one of which would be occup�ed by th� existing house. His intent here is to avnid the dev�lopmon� of a sewer lift stati4� and the expensive driveway access that would be necessary if more iots are developed to the rear. He will be reviewing th� nec��sity of a fire hydran� bee�use of the distances involv�d an� th�t will b� done wh�n the Fir� M�rsh�l returns next week. In the meantim�, h� r�quest� that th� Planninq Commissio� delay his dQvelopm�nt consid�ration one more month while he �re�ares final Plans for his pro�o��d division � (into t��o lo�s) . 4. �ngi� (�383-�70�) Randy Gngle �� euetow Assocf�tes� arcMitect�, was ��ck to xavf�w the handling of tha screening around �th� rnQchanical e�uipmc�nt t�n th� �op of tha �aroposed Ch�l i.'s Ras�taur�ant, r�Gontly �pprov�d �or dev�lopment at t�� soutMw�s� cornor o� County Road �2 and Fairvicw. �� pro�osed ot �aai�ting thQ brick wc�rk at t1'Q tap of the buildi:�g and ttla corner� whi�� an� u�inc� ��thit� met�l €or thQ screen �round t1�e to�. Tho Couneal's condition an �h� �pproval of tt�is �hopping center w�s: "That th� m�to�rial �asQd �a �cr�en tt�o roo�to� mQchanfcal u�its on fit�o x�st�urmnt, ba the ��mQ mAtc�ri.Al �s th� extaris�r of tt�c� building"' . Thor� is no st�eel on ttle building except tho eopingt on th� top o€ th� bricA wall, �nd th�r�fore, th� Usa of z�t�Ql p��ol or fQ�ce �round th� top does not conform to the �ounci.l's condition. tv� noted �urtlzor �he�t i� st�ol were ta be u�ed, it would b� ��r mor� appropri�t� not to p�int tt�e brick, but to m�teh thQ color of the s�,e�l ta �hc brick tMa� is us�d or� most of tha wall strue�ur�. The original design�d 1s pro�aosed and ��proved by the F�l�nning Commission �t�d Council did not involve � p�int�ci t�rick Uut the � uso of a lighter tane briek on th� corners 1nd on the corniceo This present� � far b�tt�r quality app��rance than painting �h� brick. We had agreed last week that the thin half inch veneer brick on the panels, scre�ning of the mechanical equipment, would • be appropriate. If they choose to do something other than this, we suggested that a proposal could be referred to the Council for a reinterpretation of their �irection, but that the staff could not authorize the use of steel in view of the condition that was adopted by the Council requiring materials to be the same as that used irt the "exterior of the building". 5. Stranik (224-2821) Dick Stranik and his son, Joe, were in along with Francis Schuck, architect, to review a relocation for the �xisting MID�A� Muffl�r Shop, now in Rosedale. They will be vac�tinq this summ@r wh�n Ros�dale Gonstruction b�gins. Mr. Stra�ni.k noted that he has be�n looking around thc City anci Faols that his bQ�t shot �or r�location i� �t th� north�ast corner oE � and Sn�lling w��r� there is ttjc ex�.�ting cl�sed g�s stetion ownod by Gene F��erson. The�r shosved a pral ir�inary sit� plan indicn�ing u�e o� tho �xisting �t�uctura with an addi�idn produeing � total o� n�no bay�. taQ rem�.nda�i thom �.hat the F�l�n�inc� ��mmi��ion �nd Council h�ei pr�viou�ly �u�ned c�Awn � CA�-X sho�a �t that loc�t�nn� It ia tru�, hotivev�r, t1�a�t in vi�� of the car a�s��h h�ving bec�n �eaidi a� � wery �igti �ri�� o �� new o�rn�r°, th�t thea �o��ibi� itio� �a� xcd�velo��nc� ti�o co�nc� in�+olaing th� thrc�c� �aub�tand�rd �iti�� a!t thi� �tag�, t��y 1�� vQry dl�`�'ie�lt. It r�Ay�, in ��ct, bc� b��k@r to utiliz�� i�t,tn� �ervi�e �t�►�ia� �itQ �or � nu�k�ca�° a� y►��r� unC�l � ��a�h poir�t i�n ti�c� r��l�Qn �t �aa�il� E�o ��p�e��ri��a to ��c��v�lo� �hc� whule c�rnc�r. l�� tt��t ��+�, it �auld b� �ara ��prc��ri��a ta �c��out� thQ ��rv�ce ra�d �n�t c��i� the �c�dl�ion�l pra��a�ty l�y v�c�tit�g �or�� sa-70 fc�czt �� righ� o� w�y+, ttnd�r thi� ��n�rio, i� an�y bc� ��iat� to ��oa� tha r�u�� of th� l�e�� or �o�a rc�A�on�t�l� u��. ��r. Str�nik t�� Q�� var�+ e�c��r�tive waith th� �i�y ir� lo��ng �t�� rtI �� 3u c � �c�� n�� ir, �na old D�ytor� � s �"� �c��, �4��r��a�, ar►� �c��t�r�i�� er� �o��iora. FfQ h�d �grc�Qd, �nd ��rr�Q�l �ut hi� �rQmi�a t�a n�t �a�int thQ buil�iir�g y��lo� �� t�hcty nax��l�y �ca, but 1�o do i� i.r� ��o�a ��at�r��nc�� ahion. �"M,�� s$ b��r� va.�� tz�� .�iul ,�n�i th�t �� oQn one of thc�ir b�� ae��ion�. �1�ioptinc� thca ��rne �p��oacY�, it rn�� bQ rQ��on�k�le �a cor��de�r tt�u u:a o� thc� ait�a �e� �r►k��im u�c� �dvca��ing tt�� bu�lciing o�re�r ��mc� r��on�,l�1� timQ l�k� ia-20 yesr�. R��l��a� t�y t��at �im�, i� w uid tae ��pr��a�i�t�a to r�c�avel.o� t�hQ �it� en� rc��-oute� �he �er�ice ro4�d. I�, zppe��r� t'rom ti�c� �t�f� �t�a�i�.�� t� ti��t it woutd vc�ry di�£ieult to AceomplisM At thf� t�m�a. Th� sit� �l��n tt��y ii��ve pr�p�x°eei wbulei �c�e�n �o i.ndie��a Ch� po�sib�.lity ei u�a to 2a park�.ng spaces whieh may bo �dequ�t� l�a5ed on rc�e�reh to b� dono by Che �iTDA� peapla. 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Jansen (G31-3048} Cr�ig Jans�n is a d�veloper of resiclential multi-€�m��,y and is looking for a sito fn Ro��vi��.r�, He is in the� devaloping an 11 unit building with und�rground p�rkpngC,in Stf �►��any Fa�rk ��rhich ho showed t�s. norther��t co�ner of County Ro�d C2 a�d Old �Mighwa�r� g•�� This eorna� �o��i�� ot' ��ao propQr��as �or wh�c1� a g�,� st�tion �� opc�sQd �evox-r�� ►c��z�� o ��d �u�n@d dowt� by thQ Cit�v. Tot�l acrQ�r�Q i� i.G. 'Ti�e immQdi�tQ corne� rra� �o�m��ly occupiad by � g�� st�ti�n os�nQd b�y �Iim �'��np. ��tM ��c�1� �rc� �ar g�lax, but wc undQrat�nci tha� thQ '�r��A p��PQr�y h�� , N� i� ��opQrt� in un�ccu��d, thc� g�� $t�t�on h�rring butg-n� d�o�n ��av�ral y��r� r��o. �e natQd ta� �0�. J�r��n eh� �n��e�t on �1�a ��rt �� h� n�ighb�r� �h�t �a�dl ��0� l�a�c� c��r�c�i��Q� �ot� ��a�� o� a� ��lt�=�'s�a��r h�u�ing, ��r�i��+ �o�an h��ing t�ia��l�r ta �t�� rl�ieh i� ��n�a �t th� ap�� a��c�� t �hi� ieae�x�€��tiara in ��. ��tNony� ��. .��tn�� not�d �i��+� �t�� r�d h�� ra��c� �oi l ��lar�� nd ��t��e��l �cr�c� �at� �� ratf�c� ��i� po�n�. �9� no�c�� h� ��r� �o h��v+� � h�,c�� d�n� I�g� ��► r��;c� �t�� u��a�d �� + ��Q��y r��rra�ic�� +��. ta�� i� �� a��6 �c��, �f�e� 1�:�� eaul� �e�o�r�a��t� �? ut��. "i4�� i��l�t�� c�� ca�ii��i�c� �.�� n+��as�nt �a ��i�� in �a�i �o��I�� a�� l��u�g�� u� n�� e�r��;fr:��d. �d�a� �� P�� i� ��t��d �r� ��%r�� 1�� € t�c� ��u��9��s�c1 �� i�� ►�� r�i��n. �r��, ., � �� t� �� t=� �� n� �1�� i�� v�� t�� on�� I��+� �� a�� i� ��°��c�+i�f i� �� au�.�u�. �� cc� Ca 6 • ��i�ii � �G;��44 �� li� ��t�i1 Q�` ��i� b��€:t1 ��tt��ttljp f��9 ��`t ��t 'i'�tt1 GCt��3�1i�Ci�"� Cy� �oirii�i �'Q��}� t��o��, ��e�� r�� r� Ra�€�, s��a �f tt�ca i��l�h ��+��n�. �"h�� a�� r�ar��► �h�#� ��€�� l�t�ng �o �t�r� ��c�l��s�„� �t` t�r�� a Aaei�t3��n ��t��ay oc ��n �l�c�a. �"h�y n��l ��0�� 1��y t��y� ��i� cet��td��b�� prog�r��s in ��b��l�,�n�1 �l��Rrf�t� �r��ho�� r �hQ �it�. �rogr�� s�n the i��m� of �o��r� �� Qar��c��e��i t�y� �t�c� co��;��3�os�g ea;��bi��t�� b �t�� l�nre�nc� �c�r��ni��iatj ��-c� �Q ��?��a«��: �' �►. T�� c�Mt tut�r� ir� �n� �ight turn o�� A��ca�� o�� County �o�f. �2 t�� bc�r� v�rb�l�� epp�ov�c� k�y �NQ Co►ant � ��r►�� niirm�t�on will �'al�ow. �'' �n� by ��h€�nc�� in cia�ign b�ir��ine� tha'��on�roll d m��ciQd a�� • � further north into the site so as to minimize veh' stacking, icle b• They have achieved approval from equitabl this triangle of land at the far west end. eThe °ross cro�sing has been moved appro�imately 50 feet t� tt�l �ast, e �• Th� state has verball a the Cit Y PProved the transf�r of land to y which wi11 occur in August with the d�ed trar�sf�r occurring in Janua� vacation of th� � Y' ThiB Will �llow for th� �rv�c� road on the eask sido oF thQ p.ropQr�y �rhere access will bQ � arQas witt��n the si�Q. ��'o�id�d tc� the parkinq thca location oF this line�e stat� h�s �ls� �gre@d or� bctwacn tihQ $tAt� trunk h� h�,e��bl�shing tha bou�dary �r�iv�t� �rope��y. g Y right o� +way and tha d. Arcrc�ra�� or� �hc� v�►c��ian ��' th� exi��. ��aa�, c�nr�anQ� Iby tha Cltty �ta�� i� mo�� mQr�c� "�Mr� b�nk ha� �a�d Oh Vu!t �hc� oa�n�r�s oP �he alo�ng. bui l�itr�� ta �h� w��t �re rro� rca�m�ttod a,� rQt�til ��»y► thin� t�� c�ul� b� Aecom�al �st��d. Y�t, though €�. �I`F�+� �I��r�� r� �� ta�In �1�� CI�� a�+h#et� a�� dn�lu�Q�t��ea� %y �on�ult�nt� o� ��a� ��tc� �o t�� Cit ��p�ng at �P�Q ��t�r ��c�a �9v�� . � Y �or��d .t nc� � rsa� �c�o�� n� i l � ng '� i� �� c�� a�� I l�Q c�on� ��on . I� �c�r �f�� e��iQ� �� p�y �or t�a� ��t af�trit��e�r�I� 1��Q r�� th+� �t�� In�� es��. h�n�l !n� f . ��1+�� .��r�� tc� k�u�i l� �n 8 �e�o� ��nc� +� �t'��rty 1 �� d�� o Chc� �o�tl� ��`�� i�� i �d � ��c�� l �,n �� @ � e�� rt��=�� i�l� �� o �hc� C��, �. �ln�l �. �� i�� thc�t �r� ��an�l �-�/� f�� f t�� '�� o t�� ci��i�:�t�d �lor��t th� �au�h �i�c� o� ti�� e�� •c��in9 � c��r�� J �� thQ r�ght o� w�r� �� d �n th� �Q�� i ot� a�� Y �� ►t�t �n�#�e�t� ��. �� e �• i"hot��h th� �u�ve��a �id �'�� c.7 �� ?r�� in�� l�� te urr�d �� h� ��r� �5+� �t�� r��t� ca��u��i�� #�� oi` n��c� �ttr�t o►t �h� �uk�� a��i�a �lk��th�� d��. k�c�l �t�j�� .,�i��l �e� �� h+� w�li� ��' �� is r��e��a� i: �t�o r��. C�uncil � �M�� f�reda hc��i �n �al�cy. In ��mr�ar�t. �� ►��-� �1�� ti�e�y t�ave m��e� cax��ilc� �ur�u�.r�g t�h� �1�imE�� dc��ca�r��a�k �f th� p�ropo�t �� r��gt-�a� ir� c�ncour�c�� 1j�m to �t��m�t ta �`• Mr. t��idrr�n (no� c�n�r��t��3 �o� � l��t�� tE�� Qm��ini�g �as�d�nts eond��nn�t�Q¢� b� th� �it �� vo,�d ��e di��,�c��l�ia� a� th�� o3��e�+t,�vQ �i�i��nt�y, rir. au�n �gr�ad tl��t th�� would pur�ua T 3• Palne (636-1180) � Bob Palne is looking for a site in Roseville where he could build a triplex, one oi units being occupied by himself. We reviewed City policy regarding the development of duplexes, triplexes, and other forms of multi-family housing. We suggested, in general a "quadraminium" d�evelopment concept converted to a three unit structure would seem to fit his needs. ATe� such units exist in Roseville though they have %een very common in oths�r suburbs in the last fifteen y�ars. We expressed the importance og selecting a site on which a trfplex would be appropriate and communicatfon wi.th the neighbors to gain th�ir support. 4. Ehgle (483-G701j R�ndy £n�le, �rchitect, was ,in to discuss th� scroeninc� d@t�i�1s f�� thQ pro�osad Chili's RQ�taur�nt to b� locetc�d �� th� soUthwQst corner of County Roed E32 and Fairvi�w (part o� the recantly Appraved T�nu�� deyolo�mant). Tha Council's cor�d�t�,an on thQ �pp�ov�l af th�� dovela�m@�nt includod ��t�temQnt that th� mst�x�al u�od to �cr�an tha rdo�top aqu�pmQnt �hal� b+� thc� '"�atnQ a$ t�� rQ�t �� th� �tructure°'. 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' I__'__ • I Ji. =i. ; .. iA. �._...�:.._�.� . ,.� I ;� ';_._u � . �� r�K ' ; �� .,�,�..�.s.`�' .—._.k� �-�r�_s-- , ss�.�c*r. �i+lr��-f ' �ra.....,i R�.^I ,`_. _� St+ _ `4 z r., � .mc-^„ucq, — _"_' NilNNESI�YA rsi �t�� 'z� � � �� . � i _.�. ;. � :_ «.� I: _ _I I __.. � � �."� . :, s� ''�' �i � a �. n�..�'�,.�`_ _. , � — – : ._ � �, tl � � � �, r n ._ �._ . ;i ��' � �� F�lCE i�Ot�RS i �,<<v,�,��; .:__ � n��:: r� s' 7� i: ��: �; �� :, �� a� . .� a� � z� � PLQNNIt�C� O y � .. _ �a_,__ � _, , . � � � �� t r� ar - _ . " �� n w+ _ : n d�� • �� W i�rt� v � :. r.�. � � r �.�, �+r i DAH�GREH SHAROLOMi � UQAN . � - �� , '• r . Roseville City Council Minutes • Page 3 March 27, 1989 �. � C-6 Matson moved, Kehr seconded, that Welsh Company's AELSH request for Comprehensive Plan change from low COMPANY density residential �o business at 1665 County Road 8-2 be approved. Roll Call, Ayes: Kehr, Matson, Johnson, Cushman, and Rog. Nays: None. � Mat�on moved, K�h�c seconded, �hat Welsh Company's requ�st for r�zoning from R-1 to SC at 1665 County �oad B-2 bQ approved. Roll Call, Ayes: Kehr, Metson, John�on, Cushman, and Rog. Nays: None. Matson moved, Kehr sQconded, that Ordinance 1059, rezoninq pro��y frc�a R-1 to SC at 16C5 County Ftoad �-2, bo ado�tc�d wf�h tha p�ovision that the r�zoning� c�rdin�nca not bc puial ished untf 7. thra� anchor� have �i�gne�d 1Qa�as. �lalsh Com�any ha� six montt�s to secu�c0 thA a��orQment�anc�d anchor�. � ORDYNAt,tCE 1059 Ro� 1 C� 11 ��►a� � �ehr, Matson, �al�nson, Cusk�man, and Rar�. �i�ys: Non�►. Ma�aon a�owaed, Cu�h�a�n s�tcr�r�datl, th�� welst� Companies ra�a�g� �o� SPeci�l t��o FQt�ait �or � Alann�d Unit Da��lopm�n�, vae�anc� t�a pbrking st�il siza requir�- �neanit�� and pr�l��rinnry �l�t �C 1GG� County Raad �-2 b@ a�p�ov�d �rith thc �ollo�afng condlition�: 1. �'h�� n a��+�i�n�l ��+ce�� bcr pr4vidad from Co�nt�y R�►�� -2 D� it�r��oy Corant��, a� p�op��ad � 2, �'��+t �pp�rovsl �c oht�ined fo� thQ u�� of th� l�nd ��r �u�fl �c�c�� o� tMo owner� of Ro�adal� (��u�ta�l� i.i�Q� . �. fit��t th� �nc�l��ng �►vonue ��rv�,c� ro�d �h�ll be c�nve��r�d to �hc� City o�' R�savi,ll� �y tP�.a Sta►tc�, �n� t1�Q C1�y �h��1 rc�tain o�anatc�t�ip� pc�rmitting ��r�:ln� �n �hQ ��ght-o�-wa� by t�e ��operty awnQr �� prov�cl�d in tl�a �nvalopmvnt �c��reemant. d. °�h�� m�r�e�c� S��°e�t b� �r�c�t�d �� ubiic rigt�t- � o�-w��y, :�u�j��t �Q tl�� rA�riatc� o��c�m�nt� and �p��vt��:� o� th� �f ��:ete� pro�erty owncr�, to �n�u�� eontin�c�� u:�� a� �n inte�rn�l rQadw�y. �. ��tat � f'�nat �r�ir�a�� p�an !�e �p�rovcd !�}'' ��lE City �nd th� Ftic� Cr��k W�ter�hed Di�trict rQlating to �he diver,ion �� drainagc� to thQ City's faciliti�� aa�t o� �nel�inq �1ven�so. � 6, That grading, ut�.litie5, anc� stre�ts b� r�viewed �nd �,pp�roved by tt�� Engine�ring sta�f. _ •., Roseville City Council Minutes March 27, 1989 � 7. That final landscape plans and provisions for screening be reviewed and approved by City staff nsultation with the affected landowners. in co That landscaping and a fence, not more than ten feet or less than eight feet in height, be pro- vided along the north property line contiguous to the residential propers��uctioneoccurs,shall be built before other con Page 4 g. That an additional eig�eda�or CountyfRoadtB-2• right-of-way be dedica 9. That sidewalks be constru�eadfromCAmericanaStreet and sidewalks be construc Road B-2- to the new access notth of County 10. That deliveries to the SPnter, snowbeei°mited to trash removal7•00daSmrethxough�y�00 P•m• �'�� the hours of 11. That resolutions vacatinq port,�ons of Brooks Avenue, Frye Street, and Bruce Avenue be prepared for consideration at a public hearing on April 24, 1989• 12. That a�proval of prel.i.minary p lat be Subject ta � Engineering staff approval of all utilities, � installation, and removal of other engineerinq details. 13. That the materials of the ramp b� consistent that the exterior materi�ls oi �he main bu��ei�@a�i- further study be completed regar:'�ing bility of �nclosing the lower portion of the and reviewing the most north sid� of the ramp, er level af �h� reasonable wall �eiqht on the upP ramp to scre�r► acfj �c�nt residences . walls of dumpsters and servi.ce 14. That screening , and con- areas be not less than ten feet high, structed of materials similar to the m�terial� of �he building. 15. That handicap accessibility� �hertheaters b� made to provide proper access t 16. That the develnpm��t Decemberr29te�989,aunlcasnce W�tih the plans dated changed by these eonditions. � G �� L ��c �` ��,' � �� ,t �:' G�� L�� "�`n# - �? ��1 ��L.t,'� ��. � e � � Koseville City Council Minutes March 27, 1989 Page 5 17. That there be no access to the site from the frontage road at the northeast corner of the site. ..� That a gate shall be constructed to permit access for emergency vehicles, and that the Center � � management be responsible for maintaining the emergency access drive. 18. That shopping center management provide adequate security measures during business hours, as approved by the Police Chief. 19. That an agreement b�tween the City and the developer be completed. Roll Call, Ayes: Kehr, Matson, Johnson, Cushman, and Rog. Nays: None. Matson moved, Cushman seconcled, that Welsh Companies reguest for variance to the number of parking spaces at 1665 Count�r Road B-2 �e d�enied. Roll Ca�l, Ayes: i�ehr, Matson, Johnson, Gushman, and Rog. Nays: NonO. Matson moved, Kehr seconded, that a public hearing for vacation oi stceets at 16b5 County Road 8-2 be scheduled for the regular Council me�t�ng of April 24, 1989. Roll Call, Ayes: Kehr, Matson, Johnson, Cush- man, and Rog. Nays: None. Matson moved, Cushman seconded, that a�aublic hearing for the final plat at 1665 County Re�d E�-2 be sche� duled for the regular Counc9.1 me�ting of �pril 2�1� 1989. Roll Call, Ayes: Kehr, Matson, Johnson, Cushman, and Rog. N�ays: Non�. D. ORG7INIZATIONI�L BCJSINESS D-1 Matson mov�d, J�hnson seconded, that th� followinc� schedul@ b� es�tablish�d for interviewinc� City Man�ger Candid�t@s: Frid�y. ��ril � 8:00 a.m. Br�aki'ast.•- Co�ncil and candid�tes. i�olid�y Inn Dir�ctor� Room. 9:30 a.m. City Tour - candidates �nd spous�s. City F�all . . 12:00 Noon - Lunch wi�h candidates, spouses, and D�p��tm��t i��ads, 2:00 p.m. Candid�tes tour city facilities and meet with De�artment Heads. 4:45 p.m. Candidat�s meet with Consultant. City Hall. 5:30 - 7:00 p.m. Reception - Council and spouses, candidates and spouses. Holiday Inn �oard Room. SCHE�ULE FOR �ITY MAidAG E R INTERVIEWB 0 k � �� March 20, I989 TO: FROM: S�eve North Howard Dahlgren SUI�.TECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Rosedale March 15, 1389 Randy Rosyold, of the RTB (Regional Transit Board -229-2710), Dennis Tollesvold, of the MTC (�Ietropolitan Transit Commission, 349 -7700j and Joseph Kern, SRF (Strygar-Roscoe-Fausch, Inc., 475- 0010) were in to review prel.iminary plans for the expansion af the bus transfer and park and ride facilities currently Qp�rating at Rosedale. As you all know, the MTC pro�oses to expand th� l,ocal service in Roseville by adding an additional fc�ur bus routes utilizing new 10mini coa�hes'� to operate witt�in the RosevillE area to �he terminal which currently exists along the sid�walk contic�uous to the Dayton's store on the r�arth �ide. This additional s�er�ice will be startinc� April lst and cara be serviGed from that location until the £irst phase of expansion for Ros�dale begins about June, I989, Unfortunately, ther� appears to be l:ttle contact and liaison with the Centre Companies wha ma�nage Rosedal� sho��ing c�nte�, are in the process o£ planning gor this ex�and�d service. Thus, in g�neral, �here is res�.stance an the par�. of the �Rosedale peo�le to accept adc�i�ion�il termix�al functions at th� c�nt�r and in particular, �t this loca��cion. lPr�liminaxy plans for the expax�szor� ot t3�e center cantain major changes wh�re th� �t�rminal �►nd �ransf�r f�unc�ions now accur. �'hus, there is no queation but what a ct�ange in location, scale, ana function will have tA be considered. A major park and ride facility also exists at 14osedale averaging �'i5 cars to up �0 250 cars parked per day. These foXks park �h�ir car at a�rE�cribed locatian in th� cent��r where therc is littl� traific �nd pick up on� af the expr�ss bus�s �hat takes th�m �o MinneaPolis. �here ar� a total of five exi.sting rout�s that intexchange with th� Rosedale C�nCer t�rmin�l, and the �our add�tional routes will make a total of nine. :�ra SouthdalE, by way of comparison, there were existing seven routes serving the eenter, and three additional local routes w�re added, m�king a �otal of ten. Th� MTC peopl� not� that aboUt 1200 persons �er day are braught to th� shopping center under the current busing system, anci abaut 15od persans per day have been arrivirig �t tr�� S�uthdale location. � � Jos�ph Kern of Strvgar-Ftoscoe is their traffic consultant �nd has been authorized to do studies to look for alternativ� � � loGatiQns f�r the park and rzde facility away from the shopping center site. They ar� laoking for abou� 2 acres to ser�►e this r � function. We suggest�d that such a location wi11 be near impossible to find and particularly one close enough to the center to serve the publi� purpose well. We suggested that th�y � continue to work with the Rosedale people regarding what th� intent of keeping the park and ride facility at the shopping center with the conditions as previously operated wherein several weeks before Christmas (at �the shopping center's rec�uest) they moved the fa�ility as they do also dur.ing the weekend following Thanksgiving. They note that th� existing parking of up to 250 car� within the sh�pping cen�er lot has not been a problem other than at �hese peak timesa It appEars that the general attitude of the Rosedale management peaple (the Centre Companies) is that they d�n't reqard th� busirig facility as s,ignificantly important to the success of the shopping center. They are also concerned about behavioral problems that have existed at some other terminals at major sho�aping cent�rs including �rookdale in �rook�.yn Center. We suggested, and aur three uisitors agreed, that r�search shauld be done immediat�ly as �.o the numb�r of people that actually shop at the center havinq arri.ved by bus. Up ta now there have only been guesses as to these numbers and, it would appear importan� �� a].1 conc��ned that we haue a bet�er und�rstandinc� af this potential �enefit, In summary, it would ap�ear that th� e�eneral pu�lic is best served if the bus servic� terminals could remain . �:onvenien�ly accessible to �he �ity's major p�destrian travel generator. To separate these func�ions, •,�nuld simply make the system less convenient, l�ss efficient, and less beneficial to � the persons who r�ly upora the bL�sing system, many of wh4m are eld�rly. W� all ac;reed �hat w� shauld pursue the best methods far ke�ping the terminal tacility convenient tn Rosedale, to be e�one in manners so as to minimiz� deleterinus impact on the Center, and maximiz� service to the travelling publi�. They wiZl keep in clos� touch with the City as pro,�ress ensues. 2. Sorenson (G33-25G1) Rog�r Sarenson is the own�:r of the Fireside Corn�r retail and wholesale EireplaGe store on the east side o� F'ai.rview, just north of County Road C. Th:s is � 2.4G acre site with a?00 it by 1�80 ft. building which tk��y propose an addition oF 100 fe�t by 125 feet. Mx. Sorenson recently moved to thi., location and has faund it to }�e a v�ry gaod location and proposes to c1�sE two of their outlets in the Metropolit�n area and c�ncentrate �is retail and w:iolesale seruic� in Ro�eville. We reviewed develo�ment crit�ria, including bringing a szte p.lan up to code standards. I� appears that cansiderable asp�alt has be�n added to the site not cc�nforming to �the industri�J. or p��kential business zoning on the site. We r�ad th� �ity�:� redeve'lepment plan for the Twin L�kes Area noting that his expandPd facility could become a part � of that pl,an, but that the lan�scape� areas, curbing, parking, and handling of the expanded building would have to conform to ordinance requirement5. We suggested he begin by hirii�g a good � architect to replan Y�is site, n�ting that the st�ff woul� be r � � happy to review the results as he progresses. 3. Bartlett (333-8210) 3im Bartlett who holds a contact southeast carner of Count}r Road CuandaLongn L, ke Road S as airn tto discuss the possib i l i t y o f h i s d e v e l o p i ng a Super America service station on the northwest corner of that site. He has been rev�.ewing several proposals on the :�ind others on the site. The land is rB-4 a d tis Sthe gat wa n�to the office park development to the south. Y that �he site be well developed functionally uandlaestheticallyt We sugges�ed that beginning with the development of this site by putting in a Super America station would be a mistake. This is a difficult �ite to develop because of the �xtensive electric pow�r line easement whi�h cov�rs most of tk�e site. W� noted that using the northwest carner of the site for a gas station makes the sit� more difficult. Though it has been two years since he k�as optioned this site, and h� has been unsucceasful. in findin a that giving up a� this paint and oing the hexpedi nt thii�q tis probably not a wise move. Crai� Waldron rev.iewed with Mr. Bartlett current changes in the motel market situation and gave him names of some of the active players in the current competitive struggle on the part oi the hotel industry to seek out the most appropriate locations. De1a s on the ac�.._�� location seekers in other fieldsy includingp UNIS S Sand Hewlitt Packard were discussed. Mr. Waldron also noted City�s planned efforts to promote development in this area, with the suggestion that Mr. Bartlet continue to pursue appropriate development for th� site. 4. Ruvelsan (337-0007) Tom Ruvelson is the president of Sign Consultants, Inc, and as you wi11 recall, recently prepared a si nin Woodbridge's Centre Pointe which was a g g Program for Commission and Council. Now they find that� the proposed P24nfoot high by 12 foot sign to be located contiguous to the Freeway cannot be well seen when set back 30 feet from the freeway public right of way. The existing temporary sign was set back 15, and it appears obvious that the new sign in that location can be reasonably visible, but become significantly less visible if set back an addYtional 15 feet because of some of the major tree planting has occurred on this portion of the site. We noted that its unfortunate that this couldn't have been reviewed and approved at the same time as the other siyns were considered this past month. However, should they choose to provide for a separate approval, that this could be processed if all agreed that it would be necessary. We and some of the staif looked at the existing sign location after the meeting with Mr. Ruvelson and agreed that the 15 foot change in setback would be significantly helpful in making the sign visible, We agreed also � � that the sign proposals as designed are very attractive and are far better than the billboard concept approach that was initially put forward by some of the Woodbridge representatives. � 5. Gregory (332-5544) Arnie Gregory was i.n with Jack Buxell, architect, to review the possible development of an approximately 6 acre tract ownec� by George Reiling across Lexington Avenue from the Can-Am project. This property appears on the City�s Comprehensive Land Use Plan as medium density. T�is suggests some form of town housing in approximately 4,000 sq, feet per unit subject to flexible design opportunities based on PUD application. We emphasized the early and continuous contact with the neYghbors contiguous to the east, wherein a row of houses back up to this proposed site. Obviously, putting single famil, homes alon �his stri which fronts directly on Lexing on Avenue w u1d be a mistakech It would appear that an appropriate design toc�nhouse complex could be complimentary addition tu the immediately azea if appropriately handled. They will p�u�sue initial design consielerations and will be back in contact with the staff soon. 6. Rieger (893-9000) Niat Rieg�r is �he manager �af Rosedale Square for REEF Mid Am�rica � Company whQ �.re th� awners of the sh�pp�.ng ccnter. They have an exist�,ng �00 sq. ft. pyloa� near the c�:nt�r of the parking lot, an� proposed �o add a 54 sq. ft. sign und��r th� exi��ing ganel r�oting th� name o£ the sho�ping center, Ros�dale Sqsare. Th�y have a grc�und sign at th� far southeast corner o�' th� sitQ c�h�.ch is visible (when the snow isn't �oo high) from Cou,nty R��d C and Linco.�ra prive. Noc��ver, that sic�n is not uisibl� frotn th� acc�ss af �the property �rom the north from I,incoln Drive, The shopping cer�ter ��n have up to 3 pylan signs �00 �q. f�et in area. Thus, an additianal pylon could be acid�d, though w� a.11 agr�e th�t adding this panel to the existing ��►1on x� p�efe�xr�d. W� review�d �he codes with Rick Jopke, loaking for � wa�r in wh�ch �h� panel coulci b@ acided withaut formal action of �he P1annAng Commis�ion �nd Cauncil. Though it is possibl� to enlarge wall signs based on �he distance of the setback from public right of way, �his provision does not apply to pylon signs. Ev�n if it did, it would not a11ow for th� total 54 �'e�t but wauld allow for an additional 35 sqe fe�t. Thus, it appears that the appropriate process here would one of applying for a variance, with the understanding that the additional signage allow@d would nnt be utilized. 7. Stranik (�24-2g21) � Dick Stranil� runs a number of very successful shop �hat was retaining wall at thQ wes� side the site of the old TBA ( i ire, MIDAS Muf.f�er Shops including the developed in the location at the af the Rosedale Genter. Th�t was Batteries, and AGcessori�s) store � � . that Dayton's vacated a few years ago. This • will be removed with the expansion of construction of the new Daytons store, and looking for an alternative site. He possibility at the northeast corner of Snelling. Here we informed him that the disapproved a CAR-X proposal at that site. � MIDAS store location Rosedale and the thus Mr. Stranik is is looking at the County Road e and City had previously He also discussed the possibility of the location along Fairview Avenue on the west side, south af County Road C. 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'Z:"--��.�.� K ROSEYI !L� �� MINNESOTA *:�-r , � PLAIVNIN� OFF10E HQU�S �� ; , � � .. • ♦. �, 3 �5� b9 DAHLGREN SMARO W E UBAN � ., ., .a� . :. .� ,,... i� �., �- , *� �y f . y � x' t' " � �r�� N _ . .rl e' . . . e�� . _ � .. . _ . _,.. l � ' _ ♦ Y � `s ' �:�ir� � �-.-.-�-�...z-.-_ --S'� � Y14.,. _ ; } . �, � 1 . .. ._ , s�w. •'. r . �' tl � ' f � � i '."a"�. .., « . . ' �r a _ �� .... ; �.` � � � � s � Q' t... _ L ,. - f. � g ` a l + ' � ..� E�VYSiD CLiii " !i_,r...�:r-a.s--= ':_ ---= a_ . " :d• _ y � _ .:.._. ��_ � �`__ 3 •- df _ � a �.'..6'l,g. f-��-� �ri. f" � � .��: s� � a`w � � ,....I. I .I. a'�� • f F = 7 s+rit � y _' � �� . ' yi _-s_s. .._. ,_° �•a : '+ ,! ::��D � � a �� .. �} � � .-_ . � �::�"� ', ., ' �� _ M� �i; t4 �; G� ' t�'y � ]% ; I$' �il i9� ry 2� a r�,_...,"' �. _��m .,_ .�,� Y ` � ' � ? �;� : : ._ �� ' ��, �.,_ � 0 that Dayton's vacated a few . will be removed with thee� exp nsion h of construction of the new Daytons store, and looking for an alternative site. He possibility at the northeast corner of �nelling. Here we informed him that the di$approved a CAR-X proposal at that site. MIDAS store location Rosedale and the thus Mr. Stranik is is looking at the County itoad B and City had previously He also discussed the possibility oF the location along �airview Avenue on the west side, south of County Road C. We reviewed with him the greater potential in the area along County Road C preferably as part oi a car service mall. � ].ocati�ns and pot�ntial opportunities far� development ar�i��s interes�ed developers. Mr. Stranik is going to �onkfnue h r�vf�w these poss,�bilities and will. be back to the staff at �a �at�r at�g�. � CJ � � �J � � � March G, 1989 TO: FROM: SU&TECT: Steve North Howard Dahlgren PLANNTNG OFFICE HOURS, March l, 1989 1. Hunn (645-2707) Roy Hur�n was ir� to review th� possible use of a lot, 123.9� feet of fr�ntage on the east side of Hamline, and a depth of 157.8 feet which is now occupied by �h� old Harry Kath house. This house is �n the far east end o€ th� lot, and is wifihin 4 fe�t of the re�r lot line. 'Th�s r�+ar lot line was adjusted to accommo�iate a new swinnming pool on the property to the easC which is o�cupi�d by th� Huren familyo The Hunro family owns� � ch�in of �our Keyes Rest�ur�n�s in the m+�tropol i�a►n arc�a. Mr. Munn indicatt�d trieir desirQ to consfd�r e�ftM�r a r�uplc�x �� p�rh�ps a� �riplex dev�lopment an th@ sf��. tei� e�cplair►c�d �he City's polic�v reg�rd�nq duplax�s and �arocedur�s �nd regt�lati�ns for a potQnt�aY rc�zonir�g. WQ Qmphasizc�d a nQ�d �a h�ve neighborhood supp�a�t in �onsidl�ring such � r�z�r�ing� It was natc�+d that with a lot �res� o� �0, eQ7 �e�. f�e��, it �xcQc�e�s by li�tle ovor �, OUO sq. ��c�� th� 15, dQ0 �c�. �Qat raguira�l �'or �n Ft-� �'our-�10� �on� . t��wraver, tt��t z�n� m�y be mor� d i f� i��I t ta �chic�vc�, and a�r� R�-2 rQ�onin� m�y b� nnQr� a��rapriat@. �� sus�gestad th�t � s�pe��i�ic d��ic�n be prc�parsd for �M�tav�r th�y pro�aos�d ta eio �n�l th�t they con�Ac� neaighborir�g awno�� r�c�e��n� th� pr�apasa�Z p�i�r to pro�QQdit�c� with r�ny for�►�1 �p�lica�ior,�. �� firowr� (339�2�lA4j �►11Ar� ��oa�n w�� ,�n w�th hi� p�r�nc�r `Tor� �rlickm�n ��d �t�rk hi�ston ( gQPg��Qn�ing Tan�arb� �r�r� counci 1 pQr�o�s Vs�rr� John�an, Jo�nnc� Cu�hm�n. Axso pr�s�n� a��r� ��t ,�Qhn�on, Ch�irman �� tha Pl�nning Commis�iAn, �con Kranka a�nci Tom ��rstrf�r o� �fKE, �nd ��n t��son, ownr�r a� �ha� Mr. ��Q�i� �Q�t�ur�n� s�uth �� hc� p�opnsrei �ho��nc� c�r�tQr sito. '�hc� p�rpos� af tha mec�ting wA� �� Q�►,�@w wit�i thc� �auncil �o�son� ancl oth�rr�, �ho v�rious potQnti�ls far in��e�asing pc�dc��t�i�r� �nd v�hi�ul�r circulation int�rn�lly ��ithir� tt�c� b.�oek ,�aunded by F'�irvf�cr, Gour�ty Rs��d a2, P�rio� 1�vc�nu�;�, �ndl Wa�t ��rimcter �to�d a� Xnc�u��t�c� by Coun�i� memb�r �7oh�,�son at a r�cc�nt �ounci� :�e�tiing. The ;�tafP h�d m�� p�eviaus?y w�ith tt�Q Tanurb P�aple on twe p�et'io�u� �ccasi�ns F��aYa.ing th�� abject, �� which variaus o�tions were �xplor�d �nd drawit�g� rec�uest�d to bc pr�parmci by t�he Tanurb pea�le for �h� City'� con�ideratinn. Far p�destr3.an purposes, it w�s agr�ed upar� b}► Tanurb that th�y would d�dicate a six foot wid� e��ement c�n the �auth sid� of their property, within which a walk would be constructed in • addition to a five foot landscape area to the north of that (separating it from the service drive). This would be extended along the full length of the south property line and would provide direct acce�s to all the restaurants and contig�ous properties to the south. Th�y woul� then separate their building at �he corner with a 20 foot landscape area with a path extending from the main walkway in the front of the cent��s south across the service lane to t�e proposed six faot eas�ment. This would provid� a m�ans for p�destrian� flowing conv�nien�ly from the shopping center cor� area to the �estaurant and easterly across �a�rvi�w (at the �ew intersectian location) ta Ros�d�,i�. TYa�s wa�k can thQ� b� pickQd up at thQ new RosQville d�sig� to provide � means of pod�s�ri��s walkin� fram �ho r�gi�nal cen�or �o th� new shopping �roa w��t of Fairvi�w. T�� numUer of pQople utilizing thia �yst�m i� unkno�n, �nd m�� b� €ow, it w�s �alt th�� it w�s meaningfu� ta con��ru�t �uch a syst�m �o oncour�go such podQ�tri�n �o�am�nt�. ThQ Co�ncil parson5 �u�gQst�d that th� w�lk be w�11 lit� th�u�h it ��s not d�t�rminad �g to who would p�y for su�h lighting� ThQ T�nurli paopl� wi�l, howe�er, �o tho ��nd�ceping �nd th� i�r�g�ti�� ysk�m to �uppa�t i�4 t�ith rc��aoct to vc�h�c�l�r tr��fie, ��r� L�rs�c�n roquQ�t�d that su�h �n �ccc�� l�e� p�rovid�d �o �� a cznh�ncc� h�s locati��t �nc� bu��ness ��t�ntiAX. ?� �ublic ��Q� w►a� dis�cumsQd w��ch �ould i�kQly rec�u�rQ �he sc�ui�l�tion of �nc� a� th� �cat�ur�,nt� ��i�t� cauld �� ki��r�. Though w+s und+��r�t��rd �hi� r€��u��nt ��y r�ot b� ��rng � �ca � � � t1�e co� � c� � r��q� � �r i �g � �uct7 � � i tQ �+� 11 0 � cou r�� t�€� �an�iclar�bl� b�,sc�d on 1��3 v�l�� in �ha 1�a�ae�i�►�e� ��r��. �u�t� rr ��at�l�� o�d, ho�r€au�r, �h�►ald er��i in � �u�-d�-��, �l�g�o��h, �n �t�i� �� i� �a��t�uetud, ��t�l�i likci�� be� a��iv�t� c��iv�aac�y to t►za� m��n ��rking �Xa�. �'Ni� a�o��d, o� cou��a�, t�c��t�i��s ��r�at�an o� t�m bu�ild��s�s and �o�Q eca�c�� rc�g�r�.��g put�li� �af+�ty► ��s! u:�� oP �ueh ��fho�r�e�� raa�t� �au�h �Nruugh t�ea b�lae�:. Tho �"�nu�b �'�lk� �r��l �hc��r r�x�hite�e�� r��3 con�a�rr� �taa�t �ny a-�h�cul�r c�p��t��,�it�y, noting th�►C c►t��r� i� t�� ►x, � t�od�nc�nt ��n t�� +�� rr �i�� ublic �tXe�ts vi� �� A��nu� i� �r��aon� �a��t�ar� �� v�i�9 �en�u�fi�i��► on F'airvi�aw. It ��z�� ca�n�Ca�d ��t tO��C ma�� a� eh� k�►�il�iny�a �n tt�a ��s r�� c��r, d�t�n� �c�n�i�a�ll� P�c�m 1�7� th��ue�i� A��2, r��d ��ch �a� tt�� u��.urc� w�� cic��i�na��i wi�l� ttac� �o�►r ��t �ir�€� �ic�in� ��nt;i�uc��a� int��n��ly �►i�hin ��t� �ala�h� �n Q+�h�r� w�rd�� t�ono o� �hQ c�x,��t�n� k��aiTeiir�c�� were de��ie��ed with �hQ �nte�� of h��ir�g � pub� ic ��c��t w��t�in tt�� a�a�k fo�c�Qd by tt�e� c�a��king ,�ubli� ro�r�w�y ��t€am. i�ric�� ►vc�nuQ, w�� ,in i��t, �ut tt�raugh with �on�idcax��t�lt� d�,�ri�ulty ta prQy%�e �o� �1�i� nortt� �ou�h ra�cc��s �rotn Et;lc�hw�y 3� ��r�vico ra�ci t�a Cour��y� �a�c� �- �. �� eQmeei q�n�rally r�gr�eabl� tl��t prov�sion £or �e}�icul�r ��cc�� Gpu1�3 }�Q d�i��iGu�.t wi�h e�n�e�n� �� to �a�t, �ul�li� ��f'�ty, eiclet�riou� impr�ct or� a �r�t��s�nak�lc� centar design, how�ve�, �t��re 4Jas genar�� gr��ment tiz�t prQv�,ding iar th� pede�triAr� mov�mon� � w�s wr��thwhil.� and woUld be incor��d in new cir�winc�s �o ta� pr�pz��ec� by tha arcl�it�c�s �or p�esent�tian �o thc Council meeting on March 16, 1989. � 3. Struthmann (644-8588) Don Struthmann lives at 1885 Fernwood on a 50 foot lot with appro�imately a 10 foot driveway contiquous to his south property lin�, and also contiguous to his back daor step�. He has a detached garage set back five feet from �he propQrty line as re�uired. Fernwood �s being repaved an� his driveway must be m�ved 5 feQt north off the property line ar a variance processed to leave it the way it is. Under th� circum��ances, in this case, it appeared that bec�use of the very sma11 lot, and the ioc�t��n oP th� driveway as it relateg to th� house and the @xi�ti�g prop�rty linQ (on th� south side) that it appeared to be � candid�te for a xeasonable variance to r�ma�n in its presen� �osition, He �as �he approval of his co�tigu�us neighbor to the �outh fo� this propasal. Wo di�cus�ed p�o�sdur�s for handling the minor variance �pp�ic�t3on. 4. Ktanko (339-�2�0� Ran Krank� o� ��:E A��hit�cts, repr��nting the R�inbow p�ople, wa� in �� discus� w�y� in whicta th�ir �xts�fng site o� La�penteux and ��nwoo� could �� exp��d�d. T�i� is the old Sp�rtan Discount �tare en� wa8 l�ter rQ�a�@l�od �0 8ccom�cdat� �a�n�o� �ith 3G,a00 �� t, �he ��a�� S�a� wi�h ��,,4� ��. f�ot and a�our unit th��ra w�th ib,�GO �q. f�e�. Th� ��i�ting �arkfng lo� is 513e � �� era consi�erang thA po��bilft� oP �niar�f�g �h� Ra�nbaw ��orQ to �bnu� 45000o sq, ��Q�, po�s�bly tri� �r�ft Shap �� about 8,A00 �q. �eet bu� �ot ��s��i1y �h� ��e��e, �hough th�t d�ci�ion h�s not b��n �u�l� ��ow��. R�n ��ted ti.�t tM� �ainbo� p�o�� woul� li�� 6 s��c�s �ar thou�� (tho ��ty �rdinen�e ��quira� 5��c�� pa� thous�n�). w� raview�d dr�in�� and ��a�in� conc��n� a�d ��Q�� i��n� to m�ke tha park�ng lot Iess ��Qa� wh��h h�s b��n � prQ��Qm in �he p��. It ��s ��o n�ted t�� e c1� v�c�t�d D�onnq S�r�� i� still. �on�d singl� �amily �hieh i� ��n��uo�s ta the �ho�pin� ea�to� �fl th� aAst. Th�re t��yb� room ��r �n �d�i�ian�� rast�ur��t p�d w��rly oP trie �h�p�in� c��r bu� not co�n�ctad. Mr� Kr�nka is Qoing to pra�e0d �ith �ddfki��<a� ��ing� �n� s�udi�s which will b� r��w�� k� �h� ��a�� ,a�Qx QCGasion. In �ny �a�ntA it is t��ix �nt�n�i�n t� upgr�da �fla bui��in� a�d �xperid i� w�thin the �� eap�b�l�ti�sa � �. i � I &� 2� 3'� 4� 5 �- � - -� ;�--i--- A . �; � � : � ,•,� ''` r' � �;;� � �. e ,�� . .�i = C � � ts r � � / g � ._. � ,., . , �E j � � ^ »., =Q � � � . �- � � � �. � � G 'I ' � � � _� �.�.� H � � � � � � �� , � . .. � � �� ,� � � � .� �—� � �� - � - a�� :� ��(� i ;� �s -� K � � � 2�� 3.�t 4 :� �.� RosEvi«E MINNESOTA P�.�It�NING OFFIGE HOURS � �� DAHLGREN SHARDLOW � UBAN U � �� ' o�` � � � .. .: . � �o ; �� -----,� ;� i o ��^ t i�� t 2�� , " �- � -- -- � ��:o = r-., . �--�� -- -- -- _�: , � � ,,,� -�.� \ J+ S� ./ o `/ a f� A V SS � �1a�� 7ppp � i t �r \\� _ � � ;o G� :�-°.-� � = a�� B � o� � � a � '4(, L � • � l� y f �••• • ^L v�.� � 2�60 J yA / •i� ' � � .i �� i �Y F - i I D � �� ' =�.a �.. — � :aa - :n-�' E � - "' -� __`__�.� =� # I um _ „� : �l �?� 1 ; = a� F �o�C� � ° �. ° = _ �� .. � ...,. �aoo� �� a.. �� =,� � .. �UL� f�� _ � : , .. �� 'G� ...��... �[ �� H o� =� -a r o � :,.o �......^�� =� �� ... � � � �� aoa�; .�- � � �� _�:; ,�a�T� J �o � --- .� d �I,�.�, .��iLi L_ 19t0 E..-. �� a.t a� � " ��j ��"°N �.. K � . ;�e , • ,.,---.•��..._...1•a \ �I ieoo . � �•. `�l "L �.�-L -- - �' �seo ; � .� •f�(:l� =� �l •(-=1� .� I � i4 0l 15 �I 16 � 17 �I 18 s� 19 «) 20 'I . � • � � • March 2, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Bestrom (929-9409) February 22, 1989 George Bestrom and Doug McShane, representing the Centre Companies, were in with Dave Koski, from traffic consultants to discuss further details of their new development plan Rosedale. First, we discussed new dates on timing. They proposed to apply so as to be reviewed at the May meeting of the Planning Commission so that initial construction ca.n start �n clearing the area for part of the new parking d�ck in late June of 1989. They would hope to have one part of the deck up prior to Chris�tmas season 1989. Construction on the Daytons building will oc^ur January 1990, with completion of July 3991. The� w�uld hope to develop a new entrance in the Sprir�g of 1990 which wou.ld coincide with the completion plans for the Tanurb Center to the west, Everyone arrees that the moving of the principal arcess off Fairvie�.a 1�0 feet north and lining up with the Tanurb �xit would be the best solution. They wi11 be meeting with Karl Keel and the County representatives next week to discuss this change. Mr. Kosk�_ is confident that the numbers indicate that this will be workable and that the County will agree. The parking ratio is now 5.8 per thousand and would be approximate 5.54 per thausand when all the additions are dane. The City's requirement is 5 per thousand. The net increase in the retail space is 129, 000 sq, feet with a net increase. of 403 car parking capacity. 4Je discussed some changes in parking layout on the northeasterly part of the site to gain additional spaces. The net result will bE� more landscaping with the addition of i.rrigation wh�re new grass areas are installed. There will also be remodeling of the entire tenant building (the corridor area with the maJ.ls) in the process. They will be raising the level of the ceiling in the major mall and creating a n�w major space where the mall is now located in front of the old Dayton's store. Dayton's will retain use of �he basement under their existing building but the two upper floors will be converted into tenant space. They intent to meet with the RTB and the MTC regarding new busing terminals. It is obvious to keep it at the entrance to Dayton�s � where it is now. It would be difficult during the construction. After meeting with the RTB, they will consider possible locat' lons and wi11 get back to the staff. We are possibly looking at an � area on the northeast side of the building where ther� would �e less congestion. The plan present�d to the City at this time, is the one that is being presented to the maj or tenants, a�.l of whom must approve it before they can begin. Results look positive thus far. It appears tha� neither an EAW or an EIS will be necessary because the increase in cars capacity parking is less than 500. There is a passibility that Wards might request extension of the ramp further easte�ly toraard their build�.ng. We noted that if some of this additian is added, after the i�lans are approved, that that would not necessitate total review of the development plan. They noted that Southdale there was no EAW required and they increased the parking th�ough the addition of a ramp by 356 spaces. The development program at Southdale is similar to that at Rosedale in as much as Dayton's i� building � neca store and converting the existing store to tenant space. We reviewed docum�ntation and plans required for submission which was anticipated by the last week in March. We also discussed having a neighborhood meeting and inviting persons beyond �the 350 foot limit so as to give neighbors to the north of Rosedale and to the south�ast the change �o be aware �f th� development proposal. 2. Bilski (487-4422) Mike Bilski is a bank�ar in Rosevill� and proposes to • with three others, the land from Corpus Christi Churchchand Schoolo north of t�e existing cul-de-sac contiguous to their south line (Skillman Avenue). We have discussed this potential development with the Cor�us Christi people on several occasions in the past. Seven 75 foot lots could be developed plus an 89 foot corner iot. The lots across the street are 75 feet in width. It would appear that this division as previously discussed with the Corp�us Christi people, woul�l be a reasonable �iiv�.sion. One might consider reducing each of the 7 lots to 74 feet therefore c��ating a 95 foot corner lot. It is likely that this de�elc�pment will occur in the relatively near future. 3. Reiling (483-1g41) George Reiling was in to discuss the concept of developing his property at the sauth�ast corner of County Road C and Dale Street. Portions of this land are indicated on the c:omprehensive plan as multi-family housing and portions for park expansion. The latter is an extension of the existing Central Park to include the north end of the swamp area plus some contiguous land for a future pathwa�. We suggested to Mr. R�iling tha� a development plan prepared for this site should propose utiiizing the density in the apartments with the dedicatian of the parkland to the City. Mr. Reiling agreed that this is a reasonable approach and that we have done this in other locations in the � City. He noted that h� might be interested in additional land to the east. Again, we noted the C t y shar�terest in purchasing the north end of the swamp and contiguous land for a pathway around the wet land area. Portions of this land are � propo$ed for acquisition (in the event that George and others do nothing) as a part of the pending park bond issue in May. Reiling has talked to �wo architects, each af whom have discussed the park d�dication concept with us. In each case, we have suggested the procedure as reviewed with Mr. Reiling today. 4. Brown (339-4200) Allan Brown, Tom Erlickman, and Mark Westrom representing Tanurb were in with Jim Dahlberg from KKE to review further expl�ration of the pedestrian/vehicular access behind their center west of Fairview, south of County Road B�2 �p�The Shopping to dedicate a six foot sidewalk easement on the south s de �of thezr property and const�uct a walkway through a division k�etween what will be two stru�tures forming the shoppinq centex.. This would consist af a curb pathc��ay through a 20 foat wide space bet;ween the buildings with a walking surface extended across the service land �n the south side of the buildi.ng to a new sidewalk to be constructed in the six foot space contiguous ta the six foot space would be the originally proposed five f�ot landscape area. They propose to build the system exce t re the Ci�y build a sidewalk from Fairview to the southwestn cornex of their site. This walk can then be extended to Prior, opening up potential pedestrian access from the motel as we11. � We reviewed the site conditions in t�is are considerable number of dumpsters and along these restaur�nts and on the nort Shoppes. area noting that there "back yard" conditions h side of the Fairdale We suggested that Mr. Rick Jopke visit these owners south of this proposed walk to inform them of this proposal and ascertain their views. Hopefully, �his walk will allow means for people to walk from restaurants to the center and to walk easterly to Rosedale. This walk will come out on the new location for the semifores, thus will provide a pedestrian access to Rosedale from the west, The Tanurb folks suggested that a condition be added to the development approval that if at any time the Chi�f of Police recommends that the walk be closed (due to crime and behavioral problems) that that would be allowed. We discussed the preparation of additional plans analyzing the potential for constructing a street through this area connecting �.t to the restaurant row to the south. We also discu�seci alternate layouts of the center sa as to demonstrate the f�easibility or lack there4f. We propose to review these concepts and analysis with some members of the Council who might b� interested next week, so as to inform them of the progress and possibilities. 5. Bryan (488-3682) � Bernard (Buck) Bryan lives at 671 Eldridge and has lived there u for 35 Xears. His existing driveway is 2 feet from his westerly � property line. He has a 75 foot lot, and the configuration of his walks and driveways contiguous to the west side af the house suggests that leaving the driveway in its present location would be appropriate. He is therefore applying for a variance to allow the retention of the driveway in that position vs. moving i� 3 j feet to the east. The asphalt was newly installed three yea�s ago. It appears that �his is a reasonable and just solution. I � � � � I =� 2� 3� 4� 5 r�c�. A � B � C tr�o D r.�o E sfss F � G cr� H � i SO�O J � K ��o � I�� 2•� 3�� 4 a R�SEYl�LE AAINNFSOTA �l.APINlNG OFFICE 1i0URS �� DAHLGREN gHARDLOW b UBAN � o. _. � �. � � �a� �� - w~a `~ .w � —;�--.��'�� —,��.-. �� . _�� f.. ..-. ; ��....,�.,, -F ;�J � - �„�:�� ;� ;��r_ �J�I a� �' i � ._ �� _ �� .I j�• ! If yiI yI I �1 •`\ � .b =; .; h + � [s�0 1L�4 •� I.S--= �—+ '� }t :.t == � �i S � ��L�r �0�0 G�O� '� �� 'f rl �I `I ;I �� `'�I ii'll �'I ��II (�i ;(a(�! ; . � � ti � 10 �i II �� 12 ��13 �( 14 ;+ 15 �i 16 � 17 �� 18 � 19 �� 20 'I ��:o A � B leeo t�ao 'E f� �F i (� G uis H t�.� I L090 J IfY4 K isoo ; L� � � �J February 24, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Bestrom (929-9409) February 15, 1989 George Bestrom, representing the Centre Companies, managers of Rosedale Shopping Center, was in with Jeanine Weisbeck (638-3570) who is the new manager of Rosedale, and Dave Koski, traffic consultant with Barton-Aschmann. They pr�s�nted the revised plan for the expansion of Rosedale, which we had discussed with them at abou� four previous meetings this summer. This plan is the one that is being proposed for approval by the four major anchor tenants who must approve the plan prior ta its being implemented. This plan retains the circumferential road system that we had discussed repeatedly before, and moves the entranc� north as previously agreed upon, lining it up with the new entrance to the Tanurb Shopping Center to the west. The basi� circulation of the system Ioo�s very good, and is consistent in principal with t�e geometrics at the other entrances, Access to the secand deck pazking ramp southwesterly of the new Daytons store is by a great access after the do�ble right turn Ynto the center. This is a good solution. Another f�ature includes the previously discussed second free access lane for right hand turns off o� Highway 36 into the center. �wo thirds of the east bound ramp off 36 makes this turn and is the most important access point to t)ae center. Tota1 parking for this site is G,280 cars with a net increase of 403 cars. we did not go into all the details of the plan, but subsequent meetings will be schedul�d to do so. They wi11 be �reparing Engineering drawings utilizing Short-Elliot- Henri�kson who h�ve done a great deal of work on �he previous developments. There will be separate architect for the parking ramp, with the architectural allian�e doing the architecture for Equitable Life Insurance Company on the Tenant Building, Daytons has hired another architect to do their building. The overall schedule obj�ctive is to proceed with processing through the City in the next few months with hopefully, approval by mid summer. They proposed to s�art construction in January in 1990, fallowing the Christmas rush. We also discussed a recent proposal by the RTB (Regional Transit Board) to develop a n�w feeder bus system with its transfer point at Rosedale. Th�y how have up to five buses that begin their run at Rosedal�. They proposed to set up a system of feeder lines which would require up to ten buses which would require loading space for up to ten buses. They contemplate doing this at the northwesterly side of the center where they currently do it. The problem here is that it takes up considerable prime parking space, and with the greater number of buses, can create � congestion. The Centre Companies people would like to consider some other location. We pointed out the importance of keeping the assets of the bus terminal available to the center in as much as it is the largest traffic generator in Roseville. There may be other locations on the site that would work better with less deleterious impact on the center function itself. Pdrt of the problem is experienced in other such bus terminals are behavior problems with the ridership clientele. These issues will be discussed further at subsequent meetings. 2. Peterson (432-9G31) Randy Peterson was in with Bill Seivers of Constructian 70 and Bertin Bisbee (347-7004) who was Peterson's partner in th� site acquisition v�nture for the gas station at the northeast carner of County Road B and Snelling. The produced a drawing showing a new two story retail building at the northeasterly corner of the site, within 10 ieet of the existing office building. They would propose to tie the two roofs together so as to make it look �ike a single building and match building materials. They had not delivered the overall road pattern drawinq to us as they had previously agreed, so they furnished that drawing at th�s meeting. we suggested that the Engineering staff look at the 4-5 optional ways af handlinq the replacement of the servic� � road (on the east side of Snelling), and that it is crucial to have a decision on handling o� this road before any new development occurs on �rop�rties contiguous to the existing roadway. Everyone agreed that this would be the best appr�ac�, even thougri this may take time. Once wliat a�peared to be the best solution as �volved, it would become n�cessary for people from the City to revi�w these ide�s with �he efPected prop�rty owners. Ti�is ap�cars to be the only logical scenario for arriving at any solution of events and leave euerything the way it is. �. Brown {339-A200) Allan Brown of Tanurb, Inc., was in a�ith his architect ►7im, Dahlberg and M�rk cVeston, their attorney to review �.dea� for enhancing pedestrian and/or vehicular movement from �heir proposed cent�r to properties co�tiguous to the south and west. We discuss�d optional approach�s and noted that if they wish to proceed quickly with the review, working, drawing, �nd design, and build sequence, some form of solution that �auld be implemented by them (vs, the City or other land own�rs) would be most appropriate. Because the servic� ro�dway on the south side of the proposed center is set at 30 feet minimum, is consid�rably wider except at � one building point, we suggested that this could b� reduced to 24 feet which would produce �n additional G feet that could be added to the existing 5 foot setback on the south property line. • In this distance of 11 ieet, they would agr�e to build a 5 foo� sidewalk, one foot off the south property line, and the proposed 5 foot landscape strip as we11. They wo�ld bu�ld and pay for this waZk which would run the continuous length oF the property providing direct access to the rear of contiguous r�stau�ant an� other sites to the sauth. Access ta this sidewalk from the interxor o.F the shopping center wauld bE via a walkway created by ��parating the shopping center into twa buildings. This walkway would �eander irom the southw�sterly corner of the building (interior of the I�) to the sou�h and a landscape strip (with walkway 20 f��t in width). This would provide direct pedestrian access from the core nf �h� �hopping center (frontage walk) to all the si�es to tihe south. It would carry a pavement pattern across the s�rvice ��ad driveway width so thi$ pedestrian carridor wauld be functionally defined. They will provid� landscaping and substantial lighting an this ar�a so as to make i� safe and attractive. They may choose tio extend the depth of a portian of t�is center sQmewhere else to make up £or the square �oatage lost. ThE solution would have no effect an parking, but would alloc� for int�rnal circulation within the block cr�ated by this circumferential public str�et (which will also have walksj. They agr�ed to pr��X� a drawing of the overall block, and at th� meeting next w��k, we will examine pote�tial �or cr�ating internal mov�m�n�� for vehicles. Obvi�usly, this will bQ more difficult �n� costly, likely requirin� the acquisiti�n of one of � th� restaurant �ifies. It would also divide the conter a�d �roduc� some s��Eety con�er.ns, unless tne centnr, is redesiqned entir�ly. 1'he inten� is to fully �xplore r�ason�bly options prior to th� �ouricil m�etings sch�duled for M�rch 1�, 198�. We �lso clisctzssed �the City's n�w sid�walk �alowing equi�m�nt w�ich do�� an �xc�llent job af plowYng a � foot wide p�th on �, publ�.c walkw�y �y�,t�m. t�otig Strong not-ed thdit kh�re ar.e 2G miles o� curr�nt w�1kti.,�;,�y �;y;;�:G�n� in tt�� City, and th�at �heir present �aiece o� �qui�mcnt ��n i��ndle about 13 mi1.�s oF that wi.thin two days �ollowing r-� �no+.,r ��11. This is tite kind of g�athway �ha� wou�d b� a loqical cc�ndid��te for such s�r�ice�. Th@ patllt�ay, of cou�s�, wou].d b� �nh�ncec� i. f extend�d further to the west out to px�iQ� Avenue. 1�ny redevclo�m�nt of the pro��rty ta the west of th� proposed centcr, wt�er4 there is an existing office w�rehouse building, cou.ld ti� into tt�is ext�nded pathw�y as w�ll, thus, having p�de�triGzn czcc�ss both on the n�rth end oF th� sit� (along County Ro�d i32, �nd the south �nd) where tt�� new ptithway would be ext�ndnd. �. Busse (G33-0?qG) Barry 0'ti�axa c�ras in to review possible development scenarios for the Bu�se pr.operty c,rhich consist�s oi �.G acres north of Laxpenteur, and wes��rZy ot' tt�e St. Albans cul-d�-sac. H� had some very preliminary dr�wings indicating possibly 12-13 � townhouses on the site plus th� retention o� tt�e exi.sting home on a single family 1ot. W� discussed v�xiaus options, standards ancl , procedures for a FUD proposal. We also discussed the potential d�velopment of the 2.5 acre site ei ro terties have aavery hMgh � O'Meara points out that both of thes p P aski�g price, and that he may or may not be able to put something together that will work. roximately 8 single family lots could It is also obvious that aPP and that maybe a feasibl.e way to be develo�ped on the Busse site, P roceed. We noted, however, the City',S le gamily whi h tmakeslup housing styles, vs. apartments and sing most of the housing stock. Mr. Strong noted that there was sewer through the property in the form of the maTnereforeWethereumaybbe that water on Larpenteur is in St. Paul. a uestion of seeking water service from St. Paul, or beinq q The involved in a City water extensio�oP others.fr This willl requi.re latter would also be accessible more analysis. 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R - � _ _� � :�� _ _, • � L � -�, ��- � O�EYILLE � �. a . !1 �:F� , ` �, � ! V. , � .,-�.�.. MINNESOTA esrT •t=..-�'-�".:r:��-�� . � ' ' Zi �.� t �? = �.a� � ftEVISEO OISTE ��.._�r�rr_.. � t�^�—,�,$�� s`�•�'%x��.re�i�ctX., � � o� , ' J3 a�� L— t•r.rt . �� ......;�!.:.___• �:..�.�t�,; ' r t= '� 'p� , �i 1f— PLANNING OFFlCE HOURS � z ,� �o _e�� i 4_ � _�_� '.�. __��--��' R__ z, -, , : �: � �: �i �; �; ' , �: ",� a: n :. ��. � � .. - .••-� � ,, 2 3�, 4 i� 16 s t7 �� 18 � 19 � 2b '� c. r .�. � -15 - Sr9 '�:'�. . � � .., _± � = s.,: 4... ....,,.. � DAHLGREN SHARDLOW 8 UBAN February 15, 1989 � TO: Steve North � � FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Archell (293-0910) February 8, 1989 John Ar�h�ll is the ariginal d�veloper of the "Cattages Developm�nt" in Stillwater. These are one sto�y slau on grade, L-shap�d back to back senior citizens housing with one or two bedrooms. The on� b�droom rents for $385.00 per month and have 7�0 sq. feet, and the two bedroom rent� for $485.00 per month and has 88� sc�. fe�t. G�rages are $30.00 per month extra. Some of the units have attached c�arages and som� do not. There are 124 suGh units in �tillc,rater. Mr. Archel]. is l�aking for a site in Roseville as have others with a similar product. He was incorr�ctly informed by a r�altor that th� Margoli,s Nursery site on i�arpenteur «as zon�d for multi-family housing, and ap�arently it is av�ilabl�. Th�t l�nd is in fact zoned sinc�le family and a special use permit h�s be�n issu�d for the nu�s�ry facilities th�t are on the site. Though the nurs��y products ori the sit� have wo�ked ��r�ll, some of th� buildings �n�d th� vehic�alar trucks trafflc and storag� has been somQwha� of a pzoblem for the n�ighbors. �de sugg�st�d to Mr. Arch�l�. that he �peak to these nQighdars in tho aroa, and sho� him his proposed d�signs. It may be that � one s�ory ciQvelo�m€�nt of �his r,�tu�r� a�ould be accQp��ble if clon� «ell. R�� l�o notifi��l Mr� Arch�ll that �.hat sitQ has s�vQre soil problems and was in f�ct fiil�d. It is highly likely that th�re is peat und�r the site and that is c,rhy �hc� l�nd w�� r��ver d�veloP�d. tde sugg�st�d th�t he get soil t�st� �'irst b�for� �roc��ding any ��rth�r. 2. ,�ttd�rJon (+1��1-1?2i) �o�nie Anct��:�on ��,ci t�er t�usl�and live a� 28�� W. Owa�so f�oul�v��rd, �,rl�icM ,i� �� 110 ioot lot �t th� boul�vard, where Victoria intersect� �rom th� southwe�t. Th�y h�v� � l�nd locked p�rc�l to the soutM o� tMcm wNich provid�� th�ir l�k� �'rontage on Lake Ow�sso. Tl�i� P�rc�l is 210 �e�t in 4J�CItY6. She �ou1d lik� to �iivida tt�c e��terly 9Q ��et o£ this land locked parcel o�f, and add it to the��r ncie�h�ors property to �h� east. That lot is a con�iguou� lOQ �oot lot. In �s muctz �s no new Iot is forme�i with this �roposal, and na lot �nd i.t c�us�� no lot to k�e subst�nda�d, this l�nd division can ue approv�d by the Public Works Dir�c�or. In ess�nce, the And�r�on'� wi].1 b� sharing thei� 1�kc front�g� L:ith their �ontiguous neighbor to the ��st (for a �ce ) . 3. Thein (G33-8150) John Thein is the new business administrator for the Roseville • Area Scho�ls, having replaced Paul Borg. Craig Waldron discussed the concerns of the neighbors in the area regarding Park View School regarding the inadequacy of parking in general, and specifically the inadequacy of drop off parking for the day care site on the school grounds. John noted that they are now changing some of the uses in the school and that they will be developing a K-4 alternative school on the site. The extended daycare would continue, and some of the uses by 916 would be removed. Apparently special school districts 916's use of the property will end in the Spring of 1989. , We suggested that Mr. Thein secure copies of the original site plan from their files, and prepare a proposal to add additional parking, in particular where small children are being dropped off at the daycare facility. It appears from the aerial photos that there is a potential possibility of expanding the parking, utilizing some of the existing roadways. , 4. Peters (831-2299) Dan Peters, Dennis Carpenter, and Sheldon Johnson representing KVBM Television Inc. were in to discuss their preliminary concept plans for developing a tower location in an area in the vicinity of Roseville. This is a new �elevision channel which will be known as channel 45, which has been approved by the FCC. They showed us the design of a strikingly graceful and attractive free • standing tower, and pictures of this tower that have recently been installed on government land in Washington D.C. The height of the tower at any given location is controlled by the FCC and the FAA. They would seek to get the tower as high as possible as much as it allows them to rent space in the tower to a greater degree. They noted that the antenna and the dishes at the top of the tower would be enclosed in a ring type enclosure, which looks somewhat like a donut. The outside edges are covered with a plastic material so that it looks like a one story building at the top about 15 feet high. We suggested that for a rental fee of approximately $100,000 per year, the City might look into the possibility of placing such a structure on City property as they did in Washington D.C. They would hope for the tower to be at least 1000 feet and perhaps up to 1500 feet. Comparing that to other towers and buildings in the area, the IDS building is 775 feet. The Shoreview towers are 1550 feet. The KSTP tower (on the border between Minneapolis and St. Paul is 6G0 feet high). The KUOM (University of Minnesota) radio station on the University golf course is 700 feet high. We noted procedures that would have to be followed is they chose to pursue a Roseville location any further. A special use permit is required in any zone where an antenna is of a significant height as determined by the building inspector. The Roseville code, like most codes in this part of the country, allow building permits for antennas in all districts, except where such antenna may . impact on others. Mr. Peters and his colleagL:s seemed receptive to the idea of � the tower being on a rental basis on City property. Such a tower, perhaps even located at the Civic Center site, could be a dramatic focal point and a considerable source for income. The value of the tower would be 3-4 million dollars and they note that this is not ordinarily considered as real estate. Thus, without a tax fee. The company owning the tower can't afford to pay a considerable user fee directly to the City, but by agreement. 5. Vitalli (483-4943) Steve Vitalli lives at 2555 Alladin and proposes to add a 10 foot garage contiguous to his tuck under garage on the south side of his house. He has an existing 16 foot setback, and thus the remaining side yard setback would be 6 feet. Most of the lots in the area have a 5 foot setback, having being developed before May 1959. It would appear that only one property owner would be effected in as much as the land across the street to the east is a parking lot for the Legion Club. Mr. Jopke reviewed the applicants application procedures and criteria for a minar variance. � � i � � • � I zj 2� 3� 4� 5� 6`� 7�I 8� 9=� 10 � I I =I 12 `-� I 3 -� 14 � 15 � I 6 =I 17 �I I S � 19 �I 20 '� � �� ' ` � � � l <,r �. � '�!F� t ---"= �!l / �� \�.��f ��: iI =r � __l�� -- ` .� �� . .. .. _,• � -- . .-- ,J - -- -- -- t � —�, ---�, .. 111�� i :i �;. 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I I _� 12 � 13 :� 14 :I 15 :� 16 � 17 sl 18 � 19 �I 20 -� „-e•n �z-" - ' - / e .-�s-,. e.. �1 � /� - �z-.-e' c.o � � � � � � A I t � • �.i ( � +�'"� � � �, �� +zo a � B � c :�w n.o � F � G Z2�3 � , 20�0 �f20 K . Lo �.. � � :,_,.;_� . , � � � ; r: � , , 1 � ,� Lastly, it should be clear that this plan is a dynamic document, subject to review and update at least biannually. The WMO board of commissioners intend for it to be a useful/working document and as such will modify it as needs and accomplisl�ments dictate. The official Management Plan was submitted in draft form to all designated review organizations for comments and where appropriate approvals were obtained. approval was . The final and ultimate given by the Minnesota State Water Resources Board on September 8, 1987. As a result of these review, several modifications and additions to the draft plan have occurred and are included in the official Management Plan. 0 with earlier years exceeding $300,0.00 due largely to the Lake Owasso/Wabasso outlet 'structure improvements ($285,000 construction cost). Funding or financial sources to support the capital improvement program include: Shoreview, Ramsey County and state and federal �rantoseville, such as the Clean Lakes ro ram g programs choose to undertake p g (Chap�er 314). The WMO can also projects utilizing its own taxing powers. Many governmental agencies are responsible for, or involved in, managing the Grass Lake Watershed. This plan attempts to specify which agencies are involved with the implementation of the various plan elements. � � � �1 � � ,: � .� I - 4 � Februarl 6, 1989 TO: FROM: Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Schultz (426-9174, 723-1244) February 1, 1989 Eugene Schultz is a small home builder who recently purchased a property on the west side of Victoria which has 200 feet of frontage with a good house built near the center. The south 50 feet of this property is an existing lot, for which he says there has always been a separate tax statement. He would enlarge his 50 feet lot by 10 feet making it a 60 footrlotSe He would then propose a new 75 foot lot on the northerl the property, leaving G5 feet for the center y portion of here is that the lots to the north and sou h1 of �this e problem which is along the west side of Victoria are all 100 foot �lotsy Across the street, there are a series of 75 foot lots, which of course, would be in scale with the new 75 foot lot on the northerly part of the property. We discussed this with Mr. Schultz some time ago, suggesting that he discuss the development proposals with the neighbors. � Apparently, he has done so and found that the neighbors across the street are not opposed, but the neighbors immediately to the north and to the south are. We su specific development plans for each of theenewdl tsa and a drawing showing the relative position of the contiguous houses and those lots across the street as well. We suggestec� that he then review these with the neighbors concerned so as to hopefully build some consensus of support for his pro�osal. 2. Cave (482-9667) Sam Cave built and owns two office buildings at th� northwest corner of Transit and Rice Street. He proposes to add a garage on the site near the southwesterly corner. The rear oF the garage woul.d be 15 feet from the west property line which is the side lot line of the site. This minimum setback is 10 feet. The garage would be 20 feet deep for 5 cars. We suggested tha� he acld a 6th stall and put the trash containers inside behind an overhead door. He agreed to do this and build the garage of the same material as the principal structure. replace the trees that died last year in the Hdro ght hichd are behind the garage toward the d�.xplex development to the west of his property. Under these conditions, he can apply for a building permit in as much as it will conform to a11 requirements. � 3. Ruglowski (4G4-5737) Y. Bob Ruglowski is a real estate broker who is considering for his • clients a possible purchase of the Paul Bunyan site (Louis Johnson property), and using a portion of it for the Prom Center and catering business. We suggested that the site calls for redevelopment, which with the proper development and investments on the part of the developer, could include very important realignment of the service road to the north and south ends at access to Lydia and at County Road C-2. We further suggested that the removal of the old service station at the northeast corner of the site could be important, and that the City could assist in these constructive changes if the land is redevelaped. We noted the conglomeration of uses and additions that have occurred over the years, and that the motel as originally built (and expanded) is badly sited on the property. He indicated his support and understanding of the City's goals, and will discuss it further with his colleagues. We are hopeful that the property can be ultimately redeveloped without compromising a future scheme through reuse of the old buildings. 4. �enner (484-4992) Gordon Fenner owns a house at 349 S. Owasso Boulevard which includes, as a portian of his living space, framework of a 19th century railroad passenger car. In 1979, the City approved an addition to this structure. He now proposes to reroof the railroad car and a contiguous structure that runs parallel to it. � This would be a new gable roof which would substantially improve .the appearance of the overall building. The development wauld include a r�ot only without expandinr, any of th� structures. We inform�d him that this could be done subject to preparation of a structural design for the roof ay structural �ngineers or architect, and that a building permit could be issued follawing reprocessing the proposal through the shoreline de�elopment regulations. W� su�gested that a structural design is important in as much as the ability of the railroad car roof to hold a 40 paund snoca 1oad, is � matter of some concern. Subject to appropriate structural salu�tion, �here should be no a�sthetic or functional concerns with r�spect to this proposal> L� � M ��I 2� 3� 4� 5 � - -. � �, Q � - �" - �rro ,�ry• -r -a�_ ; � �" !3� A � � • � F� �! � ,� �j�- �� .� '� t ��,� "�'/ s' _ (r j. � •'�� «i � : � _ 4../� � �;�: , / : � _�� :; �� ; B J : J�,f r- F � /1 }'`� " �� j � I � �:1 �� . .. � � �� .� � i �1_ �h! C: 11 �'f��at._.A , C � �+ i ;� 3 � R � i 1 = _ /1, w L trw / � d / --z�'. �� - � D ' g r -� �' �� t Y� % ts.o v— ' ��' �—�—�'! � � ' :ar = i 7� :� � 1. E � � -... .� �-.�-�"- e��CC�G�z; � , ��.. �---� _ �.� s F �;(�� I �(� i� � F = :� � � � �� .� � . .�_ � � 'I � _ , �a � � ! % "'�M . �� f ,� � :� E �� t " - � f-.0 �� _ �� . � � , ��1 t �. ��,.,��-� :� �, _ ..�.�c�' _ =ao �� , . �..� _� �'�; � �a�, � r�� i, J �� '� �.�� , � � i�C� _ ��--� � ; - �l�a�� .��- t�� =3 �� q �� 4� , ; K � �� 2,� 3=�` �, � 5� 6� 7� g� �� ROS�YfLLE i� ��`�� MINNESOTA i REVISEO OATE :•�•t= PLANNING OFFICE HOURS n:` " ..,_., .. _r :_ IJ l� � �.ti•f� � � . l. � :� n.�..� ,� _ , , .. ... DAHLGREN SHAROLOW 5 UBAN � 18 �, 1:9 '-�j 20 '� � �:�; ul �'�'�.�.�, r�, r`� �� _� :�� -� �� .. r � = . L � ._ r r ' '� ` � ;f � ,. � � :: � ,_ s i: �' �� .� - � -n i,l7 '-=,•:�,,•r"�+ t , ��a �+„_.��,��`=�""cT+t -' Y� ` +q� I � � ;,�'� }� li �y "��...�.._. �'p u y[C�y �, `i tl " ��, 77 �� . ��" `��''�.�� _�°Y��7 �� ?i.. j: F� S:7 i 't � i! 7 "`' I I �' '' a: �' °: 17 �{ ! 8 � i 9 :z 20 � � �p� 12 � i3 :� 14 :, �5 .E 16 ; , �� ', 4, February 6, 1989 • TO: Steve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUIiJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, January 25, 1989 1. Thatcher (483-5473) Cliff Thatcher is president of KAJO Realty, Inc., and is working ior D. W. Hutt, dev�lopment consultants out of St. Cloud, who are looking for a 5-7 acre tract for one story senior citizen housing. Mr. Thatcher notes that his project is similar to that which was constructed in Stillwater recently which takes the form of 4 L-shaped homes with att�ched garage combined in a single building for seniors. He stated he can afford up to 55,000 per acre for land for such a d�velopment. We reviewed qualified sites and noted �ircumstances on a comprehensive plan map sites in Roseville that meet thes� n�eds, app�ar to b� a market for such diversified 2. Murn�ne (A20-9d00j th�se location� and . There al�though housing. are very few �here would � Tim i�urnan� is with TO�D Develo�m�nt Ca�mpany �rha h�� cion� � great cie�l Qf comm�rci�+l. development in the Metro�ali��n Ar�� nd are �roposi r�g to davQlop the sm�l l st�°i� c�n�er th�� i� P�rt of the recent&y approved CC�n-Am sit� no�th oi� City i�iall. They �ropo�e to d�velap th� �.��nci in canform�n�o ��aith tl�e ��rov�d PUD, �b�.�t propose� a di�t�rent �rct�it�ctu�cil t�e�ltm�nt �or th� bui�ciinc� th�n that whi�h w�s P�o�osed an� ap�rov�d with �he FU�. Th�y� are i�iri,ng the architectural �i�m of Nolloran and Duit�man out of St. Louis. Th��e �r@ �a group of ten p�opl� w11�o brokc �away irorn ti�� sob �oland firm, who tz�v� b�en doing such vr�ry �zttr�ctive �rchit�ct�r� �or soma Twin Cit�es d�v�lo�Q�s, princip��ly th�t oP Unit�d Frope�ties, Inc. W� r�;vi�wc�d som� pr�vicaus pro�€cts c�ith thc�m, and �h�y ar� most im�r�ssive. In p��vious discussion� with Cr7ig Walclron, it w�� agre�d th�t d�signs for th� builc�ing and th� si�o : k�oulci be �re��r�ci, ravicawQd at a pl�anning oifice h+our sc�s�ian, �nd thQn r�viewacl wi.ti� thc neighbor�, �o they ��rill k�e informcd tl��t it ma�r b� dif�eront Prom th@ origin�l �ro�os�l. wQ str�sseci th� ,impo�t��c� oF axchit�ctur�l c�uality, qu�lity m�teri�ls (c�n �11� £our �id�s), screening o� rooE top �c�uipmen�, h�ndlzng oF tr�sh, �nd consist�nc� of origin�l PUD �l�n prapos��l, xhu�, ii� wauld �-�ppe��, by ysing �1�iG �r�cpss, � hic�h c��li�y �rQc�uct can ��l�imat�ly be develo�ec� on the site. � 3. �zegory (332-554�) Arnie Gregory, with the Can-Am Property who is developing the land north of City Hall, as you all know, would like to da � additional residential development in the City of Roseville. He would like to pursue a upper mi�dle incam� townhouse development similar to what Larry Lauka has done recen�l� in Edina. We reviewed potential sites including two owned �y George Reilin� east o� City Hall, and the area d�signated for medium �ensi�y housinq east of Lexi�gton, south of C-2. � � Mr. Gre�ory has been getting a number of calls from people desiring to pu�chase townhouses, they ha�i�g heard of his developmen� through the p�blic hearin�s. He 1ik�s the City of Rosevill� and feels strongly that the mar�at �er� woul� �up�ort some quality townhouse developm�nts. The housing b�se bei�g made principally of sirigie family homes and apartmants, (ma�y having been con�erted �o condos). We revi�wed �ot�nt�al housing sites, comprehe�s3v� plan m�p for his use. 4. Schuetto (920-471�) n�ting them on � Tom �chuette ia with Urban Cornmorci�I �ovelop��s, �a� wh�m pa�� Korali� �As b��n loflking �il3gon�Iy �o �u� tog��h�r � sit� eombining the Kath property �nd thQ ��rwi�� s�tatian �i,t� �t tl�e southwest coxt�� oF RosQl�wn �nd L�xington A�wQnu�. �r. Schu�tte now r�ates that th��r ha�e a��al with l�c� ta �urcha�+� tt�e s�r�ric+e s��tion, r�nd h� px�s�nt�d a vQ� th� po�sible redQvelo�am�nt of thQ �ol�alm sit� wit�, �pc n��ni�►nc� storc� (with gasolin�) ��i�th a total of i� 400 �q. �c��,t oi' buflding or� a 1.57'6 ��re sitQ, one �ix�g c�� whiCt� �aould k�e ��i�to c��r. i�� noted the zonine� or� �ho si��, a por�io� of ��1�3,ch i� zaned �sl, whi�h wou�d not �i lcatia for thc� mra�o serv�cQ ce�ntmx. 6�1� sugr�c�st�d that without tNa� tand uti�i�fng �2�Q �-.1 s,�gQ �o�, p�rking, tnat this �r�pas�l wou�d �,�� q��e wel�.. it wauld b� an �s��t �o tha n��ghborhoac� t� ge�� rid o� thc� sarvic� st�►�i4r� w�ich is highly substanci�rd. 4,►� sugge��od th�t ha ��lk ��th somo oP the principal prop��}� o�ner� ira �h� ar�a w►ho ar� mos� �ffe�c��d which we identif�ad for him, so tht�t ir� tPao de�ign procesa h@ could bQ worka,ng �ritt� the�s� p�apl�, Mr. K�nl r�c��e� �hat i6-1/2 feek o� right �f w�y woulc� k�Q n�c��s�z�� d�diGation �long Lmxinqton Avc�nue. d�volopmant, 3.� wall donc�, could solvo ths� 1�nd u�a �h�� thig �hi� cox�ner which h�� bear� h�nc�ir�q �o� many y��r�, Probiem a�t Thie is tho �ite th�t w�s t��rn�d aQi�l'1� Por Kn�wl�ns �up€�rmarkot about 5-6 y�ars �go, and wzs m�st recQnt.ly �p�araved �or an o��- �a1a� l,iquor s�or�, built �rounc� th� store was n�v�r built, Ti�a ��aplicant oved�to�C�liiorni�� Aiqunr �� also discussed the a�chit��tural and a�sthetic cQncerns �,o be bo�n, in mind and evnl,v�.ng a so�,�tion �or �his site. 5. �e�ina (488-3�$7) � Walter Pesina w�s in with his E�ife Lorraine to discuss the adding of garages for the 23 unit apartment structure at 114� Iona Street. This is the apartm�nt that was originally built by Mr. �ru�gler who had built the musical instrument mus��m north of the shopping center in th� northwest guadrant oF Lexington Avenu� �nd Larpenteur Avenue. The m�seum site, as yau recall, was purch�sed by First Minrieso�a Bank imm�diately to the east, �hereby ex�anding �h� pa�king facility of the bank. This 23 unit buildin� has two �arking sp�c�s �er unit, but cnly t�n of whict� ar� out�icie g�rages. tie px°o�aosed to build anoth�r 10 gar�ges on the north side of th� �arkinc� lot. With Mr. K��'s assi�tance, w� gook�d ��t the dimensians off ti�e section map and found tha� th€ s�ac� ��v�i1aV1� on the r�orth would prnvide fo� a tnaxianum of fou�- garages. t,ie eancl�ded, howev�� that it r�rould h� ��prapri�t� ta bc�ilci a��ruxim�t�ly tw�lu� c��ra�ge una.ts on �he e�s� �icle of the site, g�rous, witii the b�ck ca� the garC�ges c�ri.c�r�ted t��r�rd th� bC�n�: �aa�rl�inc� are�. t�de �ugc�esti�ci th�t hc pr��a�r� mare s�e�i�'ic ��te �a1an� indic�tinc� how this c�n ba cic�ne in cv�£�rmt�nce bli�ty tt�c �c►t0��ck r�les. t�e �m�ah��i�ec� the r��c1 �ar, �t1e �tru�tair� to be oE �he ��m� b�Fi lciinc� mat�eri�lv �� thQ ��r�viou�l� auilt g�rt�ge. °�'t�ia i.� �n ��seoz�y ��3ildir�c� (�rQ� stAnding) �nd i� p�rr�it,t�el i�� tt�� ii�.�rict, t�s lone� e�� t�h� �tructur� canfa�m� �o ro�iinc�, �car��.ion, 4�e�cj �ia.e r�c�t��:�tinn�. �. TrAmm (�3�-1'7GQ� �' C��1in Tr�rmm was b�ck to �evic�w �as .��1� �calut��n� tc� his �a�ro�aos�l fc�r th� red�v�lapment o� thQ �itc� nn Coun�y #dc��c� �, wc�str��ly� of it�c�Q�i�. ��c� ��Q��ed th� �ao��.i�il�t� o� cr��tinc� �� 60 �o�� lat �or tl�r� t�xit�tiric� t�au�u ��t �h� �e�t:thati►c��t cornr�� r�� ttio �xita) la�v�,n� �a 7•9 ,'�t.b �ac�t ft•ont�g� 3c�t �o �t�e ��t c�r� Hrt�i�h h� �.3ould ��o�ao�� to �a�ild �� rt�a��l��. '�t�� rat�iQm Eaiti� �1�� i� ��1�l�, O� CQII�'�G*, �3Q��1 �O� � ��CG' �t,lia�F�41nfi��`3Y'�l, ��►.i� a f1G' Vc�.�,�,� �`ii'Gt1 O� l�r�e� to ti�� nartt� �. � a,��jci lo��l, z�r�ei t.ti� Ea��y;��t�i l it� aC ��e�r c�ev�la¢�i,ttc� t�r� res�� t" �hr l�k;� �� ,�::,� i:-, f'��c• �a �t�. 5�•c �ugc�est+rzd d�t��t c�+Q +�hir��4 i� � b�ttc�- �ol�it��n, tt�G�� ,i� to �u� �°� n��.a hc�u�e k��i�ind �h� rx,i4►tanc� t��,Ei��, oa ien�cr� tv ti�i� ve�y �ttr�ctivc� c�p�n ��zc�, �,€t�i�i1 s��o�ld m�k� 4� mo�� l�ay��cl��bl� lot. `T'��at hou�e mic�t�t bQ �+ c�c�picx kaec�u�c� it c�Qu�e3 �e a v�ry l�rc�� lot. Thi� �ti�e�uld �� f r�iry�at� �ur. t�t�� ev�la�m�nt �o� tt�e l�end �xcep� �ar ��mc �oi�t �r� the� io�c� ��nc�� f��i�-� c�ahcr� �t�� l��r��l to thQ QAst mic�h� ��i�nt to t�� 4iilt. �fc��a cou�d ult�m��t�±�y ka�i�c� four iy�u�e� to thca C��, ��ncl ��rt�<i�� c�nn mo�-� t�a�i�,� or� �� wc: �, t��. h�nl canclucied �h�� t�h� t�c�ti�a� �ca �i�c� r��°� r• c:au � ci k�� :;eL v�ri ;,�,i �h util.�ti�s. n��in��ge t�et-c .�� r�o �are�l�l�m 1�cc;f�►�� tP��t•� i:� �� s�carm �e�,ror �ervir�g �t�i� 1.Qt�r �°tr��-� �� Ce�r �� c�r��f n��e�� c�t �h� �ite r�nd ttle la��r�st i �v�l c�f t!�� Lui ld �r��. N��,�,�v�; , i f h�m� � wLt�c tca b� cor�struct�d in thi� 1��r �-�rc�� (�� r�vaQii�ly �rQ�ao�ed) �z 1if't st�tion cac�uid k�� rec�ua.�eci. 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'1' "f �' .. e E Zr,i, LO � �:c �� 2 � �3 �;, Ma � �s '�, 06 � �t 1� �a � r� , � _. �� . � � January 26, 1989 • TO: Steve North FROM: Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, January 18, 1989 1. Katco (636-4311) Katco Company is located just north of Kline Volvo and is managed by Dennis Marquart, who was in with Tom Peterson, the son of the owner. 800 of their business is wholesaling and retailing truck parts. Truck repair is done in the back half of their structure at 2785 Long Lake Road. They have a 3.59 acre site with 245 feet of frontage. The land is zoned industrial and there is a 40 foot setback to the north-south driveway that runs in front of their building. The structure is set back about 80 feet. They want to expand the driveway in front of the building so as to provide additional parking. The land is shown as business on the land use plan, and most of the rest of the area is zoned B-3. The B-3 zone would require 15 feet of parking setback, whereas the industrial zone requires 40 feet (where the parking is between the building and the frontage street). It appears that a good solution would be to rezone the • front portion of the site B-3, as was done with Metz Company further south. This would allow for the reduced setback, making the parking conforming, and yet retain the industrial zone in the back where the truck repair is a permitted use. 2. Dunn ( ) Paul Dunn and Dan Ross, from the Welsh Companies were in with Tom Gerstner, architect from KKE and Jeff Holstein from BRW (Traffic Consultants) to discuss revised and refined plans for the shopping center extension easterly of Pavilion Place. We discussed the handling of roof screening (to be done with parapets), trash collection, signage, handling of the storm water system, fire lanes, access and egress, public street vacation, sidewalk needs, parking, and traffic. The latter is probably a principal concern, but being helped considerably by the county's concurrence with the construction of an additional access off County Road B-2 at the west end of the ponding south of the site. This will be right turn in and out, which gives more direct access for east bound traffic, and will considerably relieve the intersection at America Street. We also discussed the possibility of vacating America Street in as much as part of it is public, but that portion going through Loehmanns Plaza is not. Putting the street back in private hands has some merit in that the City will no longer have to maintain it and will provide for � a more flexible adjustment �o the new shopping center at the corner where the existing street turns westerly. They are going to discuss this with other affected owners. Mr. Keel suggested • that this would not be a problem from engineering standpoint. The building will be all brick, with some of it being 2-stories (the same as Pavilion Place) and part of it being one story. It will have minimal impact on the neighbor to the north in as much as most of the center is south of the business zoned land t� the north where the health club was located. It appears that the development will be the best method of correcting the problems with Pavilion Place which functions without an anchor, and of course, has not worked well under those conditions. It appears that the drawings are now appropriate for review by the Planning Commission which will occur at its February meeting. 3. Trapp (633-6600) Jim Trapp was in with his wife Judy, Jim Range, Tom Lynch (architect) and Mark Murlowski of Belair Builders. We discussed their current concept of keeping portions of the existing buildings (the Clean-co building) and clearing the rest of the site. We suggested that the original concept which the City could best support, was the clearing of the entire site and building new structures entirely. We suggested that the division of the land as proposed now and with the retention of the old building could be a considerable problem in terms of it being an asset to the City worthy of tax increment support. We noted too that an entirely new structure retaining the Clean-co function, could also be a problem, though that could be mitigated by a high • quality design and careful handling of the site. They may proceed with the original program of clearing the entire site, but will have to sort this out among themselves as to how this is handled. 4. Krank (339-4200) Ron Krank, architect with KKE, was in with Jim Dahlberg, Denny Isler, traffic engineering from Strgaz�-Roscoe-Fausch and Tom Erlich and Allan Brown, both of Tanurb out of Toronto. The purpose of the meeting was to review revised details of th� proposed shopping center site at the southwest corner of County Road B2 and Fairview (the old Control Data site). They propose to enclose all the trash receptacles within the building with brick walls and an overhead door. Screening of roof top equipment will be handled by a parapet around the entire building at least 2 feet 10 inches high. They produced a line of sight drawing from the highest point on Fairview which illustrates the equipment will be screened from that position. The entrance detail has been changed by eliminating the shops they had facing easterly (toward Fairview) and the new entrance is now more open and contiguous to a landscaped area which will be next to the east wall of the center. This should be • attractive and work better� than previously proposed. We discussed signage which would be composed of two pylon signs (3 are allowed) and two ground signs which will be at the entrances off County Road B2. We noted the sign allowance will be 200 sq. • feet, arid suggested that a sign larger than that could be a problem. They noted that the building will be entirely of brick with similar quality on all sides. We suggested signage criteria for the building be developed which appears to consist of a back lit panel with translucent fabric on the face which is in such common use in many centers. The larger stores will have individual letters mounted to the brick on the face of the wall. There will be small signs under the canopy perpendicular to the walk for identifying the individual shops at that level. We discussed parking noting that the Loehmann Center has 187,000 sq. feet of leasable space with 830 parking spaces (including restaurants). The new center will have 156,000 sq. feet of leasable space with 700 parking spaces. Thus, the ratios are the same except for the important difference that Loehmann's has three restaurants, two of which require a great deal of. parking. One is the 9,600 sq. feet TGI Friday's and the 8,600 sq. feet Country Buffet restaurant. In the proposed center there will be a 6,000 sq. foot Chiles Restaurant. Thus, the need for restaurant parking will be considerably reduced, suggesting that there should be ample parking for the new shopping center as proposed. Our principal concern with this design is Karl Keel's evaluation of the drainage solution. They proposed to do the interim � ponding on the parking area which produces a depth of up to 1 foot deep above the man holes on parts of the site in a 100 year flood. Karl noted that the established criteria for such ponding would be 6 inches deep. We discussed ways in which this might be achieved, though it would appear this would be difficult. They are going to work with their drainage people to consider adjustments to the plan that might fulfill, or more nearly fulfill Karl's concerns. CJ � � � ` � _ a = � � � � � m � p � n � Cp � D � K N ._ \ . \\�1�_ ^a.�' L� � � L� I�fO u� r ;'s uOiol��'' - ' � -- - i t i •,�i'v 1 � � a iaeo � O N ;r—� �lu�+nl�� 11 If I' •� 71 II r n � � .. . _ _ � � r � � � �� r o � p ` b _ b � � � � � m � �, � I p �a • � January 20, 1989 TO: FROM: SUBJECT: 1. Tuomi Steve North Howard Dahlgren PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, (636-4046) January 11, 1989 Rich Tuomi, Manager of Keystone Automotive Industries, was in with Jeffrey Robers, who is the head of design for Acton Construction Company to review further d�:ails of their proposed development of an enclosed structure for the storage of the bumpers that have been stored outside on the Dorso site, and to replace the existing screened fence area behind their existing operation, east of Cleveland, northerly of County Road C2. The roofed, fencing area is the same dimensions as the existing. A plan has been reviewed by Dick Hanson from our electrical inspection office who finds it satisfactory. New plans have been modified as suggested in our previous meeting so as to provide proper exits for fire code purpose. An 8X10 overhead door has been added, and details of the construction have been drawn and reviewed. It appears that the proposal as now submitted, will satisfy building code requirements and get these bumpers enclosed as required. Mr. Tuomi notes that only 1�3 of their business i� the bumper replating operation and that they are growing in the area of distributing plastic bumpers and other automobile parts. 2. Murnane (420-9000) Tim Murnane was in from the Told Company who are the proposed developers of the strip center recently approved as part o� the Can-Am de�elopment. This center is approximately as approved in the PUD with a gas station at the south end. We reviewed the drawrings as submitted with th�e PUD which indicated a sloped roof structure, wh3ch we noted must be finished with similar r�uality mate�ials on all four sides. We suggested a struGture as proposed would be appropr�ate. He noted they were thinking of brick on the front and concrete block on the back (painted) which w� suggest�d would not be appropriate. They are considering two pump is a.�ds rathe� than one which we suggested would be apprapria;�, and tha� a pass through car wash (provided free with a fill up of gaso3.�,t�e) wou].d be appropriate if properly handled. He'll be back with �urther de�ails with staff review at a later stage. 3. Wilson (252-G2G2) � Steve Wilson was back to discuss potential development direc�ion for the Concordia School sit�, r�alizing that the City now is no longer interested in purchasing the building and p�rtions of the land for recreation purposes. He noted that �hough school � district 916 is possibly interested in the location, his recent conversation with DaZe Berklund indicates this may not be their first choice. The sale price for the property is (or was) 3.6 million dollars for 28 acres which equals 2.96 per sq. ft. It may be, depending on the ultimate use, that this price is too hi��h. 3t would appear, without a substantial buyer for the s��ructure and some of the land, developing the land for �esidential purposes at these prices, may be unfeasible. Mr. Wilson will be reviewing further direction lth his company people from Brutgers in St. Cloud soon to help determine their potential course of action. 4. Franke ( ) Bill Franke and Tim Nelson from the Everest Company were in to talk about the potential for development of the residential properties they have purchased east of Hamline, north of the County Library. They have been waiting approximately two years for the library board to determine the scale and direction of their exPansion. We and others have been telling Mr. Franke and his people that the library interest� come first and they should wait until their needs are determined. It appears now that the library board proposes to wait �urther, and is not pursuing the directions we thought were agreed upon at a recent meeting with Craig Waldron, oursel�es, and others. It is suggested at this � time they must do something, i� only to brinq the matter "to a head". They ar� �isappointed that the library board did not choose to n�g��.iate with them regarding the development for the library, or �ri� purchase of the land. We noted that t�ough th�re has bpen some considerable delay, it is aski�g alot of � City to simply disregard the library's interest and expansion potential. They propos� a 60,000 sq. ft. office, thr�e stories in hei�rit, with appropriate �arking �o� the land they own, which may in the form of one building or two, We did not view a specific site plan though �h� abvious conflict with �otenti�l expans�on of the library site to tho north is obvious. They note that the location is so desirabl� that a signiEi��nt percentage of the building (or buildings) will be preleased. They may �roceed with applications for development approval. 5. Peterson (720-G723) Gene Petersor� was in with his son Randy, repr�sentatives from Construc�ion 70, and Pat Johnson, chairman of the Plann��g Commissi.on. At a previou� m��ting, Mr. Peterson ha�l been asked to consider the possibilities of the redevelopment and potential expansion of the three sites at the immediate nortl�east corn�r of County Road B and Snelling, that being th� old gas station site (which he says he now owns), the affice building to the north, � and the restaurant to the north of that. Each of these sites can � P be expanded by vacating the service road on the west side of the � property, if we have an agreed upon access route to replace the limited traffic that utilizes this roadway. Mr. Peterson noted that the Target people (who also have prop�rty contiguous to the service road) Perkins, the office owner and he are a11 in agreement that this can be done and are in favor of it. Mx�. Peterson spoke at length including some times that it would be possible to be done and that other times of its extreme difficulty. He notes that the office building site is worth $300,000 and that his site is also worth $300,000. He concludes that no tax increment will work. He suggests that he can build a 2 story retail space with 12,000 sq. feet. That would require 60 parking spaces whereas he could provide perhaps half that many on the site. No site plans were prepared For this proposal or any other at this time. He also spoke of putting a service station back on the site, and/or utilizing the existing building for retail. We noted that because of the location of the structure that adequate p�rking cannot be accommodated for either use, though the prop�rty, if combined with the office sit� and/or expandec� through uses of some of the vacated right of way, additional potential can be provided. The g�s station site is .49 acres and the office site is .173 acres mak�ng a tota�. .663 acres. He said that he had spoken with the new owner of the ca� wash who supFosedly intends to "put together the land" without Mr. Peterson. Mr. p�ter�on sa�►s �hat the car wash sald for 1.6 � million dollars. He is aware of the City's disinterest in a Car� X Muffler shop on the site with the v�rianc�s ne�ded. He agr�eci to gursue �urthet developm�nt o� the site and thQ area, looking at th� po�t�ntial of combining or�a or more of the sitc�s and the rerou�ing of the �ervica road. 6�. Smit (6�8-2Z4G) Virgil Smit is � r��ares��tatiw� of R�ms�y T�chnology, Tnc. who owns theix building and s3,t� on County Road C, westerZy of F�irvi�w. Ba�ed on our discussions with th�ir ownex�s out o� Kansa� City, th�y are pu�su�,ng sQlling thQir lanci �o A mAjor dev�loper, they being in a 3a�sic �gre�ment with �he Twin L�k�s Cot�preh�nsive Flan adopt�d by �h� City. In thQ mc�antime, th�y wo�ald �ik� to request a t�mparary permit for an adr�itian�l 12X54 foc�t ten��or�ry building on the �ast �ide of their �xistin� structur�, som�what north oP tl�e temporary b�ildir�c� thay� received permi�sion for from th� City �baut a ye�r Ago. M�. Smit presented a site p1An showing this location and it appear�d ti�at �his tempor�ry usa wouid not be 7 problem for the� area or �ontiguous us�s, The are� wi�er� th� tem�aorary building would b� located is simil�r to th� previous on� �xcept for the north whese i� is l�ss visib�.e. Neith@� of th�se can be seen from �ounty Road C. They were inst�ucted to proce�d with an applica�ion dire�tly through the City Counci,l as in the previous � request. � L � � January 9, TO: FROM: ... Steve North Howard Dahlgren SUBJECT: PLANNING OFFICE HOURS, 1. Pastorius (G33-GG00) January 4, 1989 Dan Pastorius is a realtor with Trapp Realty, who was in with Ralph Darr to present a very preliminary plan for the use of the 1.68 acre site at the northeast corner of County Roaa C2 and Old Highway 8. Their use proposal contains a 6 bay �uto repair building, with a 2,400 sq. foot convenience store wi':'� gasoline pumps. A portion of the land is zoned B-3, where the old gas �tation stood on the corner (in an area approximately l25 £eet by 125 feet). The remainder of the site, that Trapp owns, plus the land ta ths north, which is part of the proposal is zoned single famiYy. B�th parcels are shown on the 1979 Comprehensive Plan as suitable for business. W� reminded Mr. Pastori.us that several years ago a propasal to r�zone the land for a foad and fuel convenience store with gasoline sales w�s turned down by the Planning Commission �nd Council. A s�ibstantial number of property owners in thA area testified �t th� he�rings and there was considerable opposi�tion. � reco�mend�tion Eor u�e of the lanci for multi gamily housing purposc �d�s �aro�osed. we haue been suggesting and supporting th�t ic�e�� with thes� applicants and others wha have inquired about tlie ��o�er,�y ovex� �he last several xears. We again affirmed our bclie� thzt the use of the land �or multi family �ur�oses eoulc1 �r,d ��roulci be 3pPropriate, �nd that the rezaning of the l�nc� �c�r a c�r r�p�ir shop and a gas station in a single ��mily arca, is �� diFiicult process. Mr. Pastorius noted th�xt h� thinks h� c��n convinee the r��ighbors that this will be an aPpropri�t� u�� by designing the buildir,gs and tiae site so as to mzk� th�m compatible. t�e �greed that he aould prac��d along that i�ine if h� <aa.sMed, thouqh ehances for success are slim. �ale revi�w�d �rocedur�� n�i requir�m�nts for processing d�velo�m�nt propos�� 1 � . 2. Tu4mi (G3G-40�iQ) Ricl� Tuomi I�e�ds K�ystone Company which replates automobile bump�zs, �na ��lls aump�rs and other au�or�otiv� oquipment out of their f�cilzty in Rosevill�. '�hey propose to add an enclosed structurc, consisting of � f�nce with a roo� to put all the b►ampers that �re now outside inside this �nclosure. We hav� discus�Gd thi� pro�osal before and ir�fQrmed t��.pm �hat �h�re w�t�ld b� rec�uired more 7rchit�ctural d�tail and r�vi�w by the building a.n�p�ctors �nd clectYical inspectors pxiar 1:0 ��ssuance of a build�ng �ermit. �'h�y brought in some plans pr�:pared by an -k; . architect form the Acton Construction Company which looked fairly good except that the details were lacking. They propose a 2x6 � vertical board fence with Gx6 posts 32 feet in depth which would be 8 feet deeper than the existing storage area that exists to the south side of the building now. That existing storage area is fenced with a chain link fence with slats that looks very very bad. We also reviewed the access and egress requ�.rements to the buiZding as it relates to the enclosure. Mr. Keel offered some suggestions regarding the handling of the laading bays and �he entrance to the enclosure at the southeast corner. Gordy Beseth reviewed entrance requirements, and notified them that he wanted the electrical inspectors to view the proposal in as much as th� exi.sting electrical services will be enclosed and roofed in this enclosure proposal. 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G � � � , � rsa K c� L � . � � � LJ � � January g, lggg TO: FROM: St�ve North Howard Dahlgr.en �U��C`I'� PLANNING OFFICC tiOURS, �.• Ruvelson (332-0007) December 28, 1988 Tom Ruvel�on from Sic�n Cor�sult�nts Inc. was fn to r�view th� ��rm�n�nt s,� �� a compa�y �hat h@ otrns, Develo�mcnt e�-�st of ��d. 9 g program for thc� Woodbr,idge done in �h�Y a�'� propas.�ng a s�rias of panols porcelir�ir.ed matal whi.ch, wil,l skand 8 f�at tall and 4 g�� w� *3e with a rc�ess ��nel �lac�d �t �n ar�g1Q th�t klnd of �culp�`t��. �e�r th� ta forms s ��p��'r �n i�r�7�s l�t�.��-�. p� tMe� C�ntra I�ointe ,logo will �'h��e �i11 �c pl�ced, one � e�r C unt��Ro�d D�nd c��e�gant ��gn. of the prin�iple en�r��n�e� t� th� sit� �long Cle�relanc� �v °�ch Th�y �i l� lac� }�l�ce� k��c�; �� F�at exee�� w�ere th�y �ntrud Qnu�. tMc� p��hR��y �y�t�m� tt��t Qac��t. � upon thc�se m�sy ba le�� th�n 3� F�at. Thu�� it �pps��r� th�t �o�nc� o� �ic�n �lori� 3�t�+� i`rar�t�� wlhi�l� a�iil�bo�h�c�h�r�anr� �ide��r sht�p�d �x� �� D �a�t. T�� h��c�ling �n�i � ��rh�p� �uc�c��;�� 6u"i11 t�� r�o��c��Z k�y tt�+� Pl�nn�r�c� ��a�,�� on �r��# ��` w� �it�i 1�� eo th�+� �,�i� i�h �a�� ds��n� �or U�t�SYS �c�vQ �un��l r�� ya�� c�o. t�c «��c� r+�z� i�;t,�� z��i�� t" �3�� p A � /� q p �i sJ3��/FP� 4�O�S� k��h^� d�.i.fF9llisi2i �1J �Y1� �� K wd�.vl� �i=l��Yr/ i:l��0.t\1i ,�a�tt•��ia+�1 � ��l�.ir�g ��. TA�� src� dcan� de�r�r � . ��n�i ��r� ka� ,� l � �tiw•cr�! ��i I�l�au� � th�}� �� r��'��i� c��rr��r•ol �c�ci n��r��l ��rr�Qt i�iQ�►t�if ��►��onu�h a�a �t�ly. �r� ��i�r�� t�P�� m�Pt�►l� �i��n� �t�c� �ta��l�l �u�rac�r�� th� ��+��'��v��a� �Qr�r�ctd �� t�c� �e�ll ��n�d �P��ncc� �+� �h� �f tc�. � . ht��a��a�t�,� ( 3 � � � � �� 1 j E�C3� hllf?�'��'x'2; tltif,� i�GlfDtl�� .�'�,�El� ��1 �C1� �"�,t1f3 i4�g30��A�El�� h+Ct�4� . ��1�. �1��t�t� ��nt��l �i+�v�lc��mat�t ��r�� f�r �,,ouir� .7oDin�u � in te �uny��r� ;�it�. `t°t�e�r s�� l i b�a ��ek.i�rg an ax�Q�sfon an thn�� Q F��u� 1a,� tl� [_,c�i� i�. ��1��n a�i� � l c � l�� l�� o r t �h� ��. `i`t�� ? Y �u��aa mor� dc��;init��e �,l�,n� i�� 3 F�� n t�� a c�� Y Nr.Q i imin�try d�eAa�in c� �� e� r�� s p t ��i3�c�t� +��cau�cl �n��u�� f�� r��►� a. an'� s�tQ, � n d k� y t h i� roc�s� r�e�r��t��d�t i�r� �f" �hc� ��ik�l �e aQ�vicQ �oad � � . ��c� '�P�3� ��n��t ia�� om� m�r.. i� ia� �hQ �Qn�a th8t p� V��v�� a�c��►sy. Q�p�r�ci.i��r:•�� frax t-a�c�sa��:� ��th��c�h i� ine��e� th� cea:�� c�f � ��►��m1�1G�gc� ai �hca l�nc�. �1 �oneQpt �nelud �t�l�1,�� i�, ,. r,� �i C?�Gt't� 64'Ll� �,� ��f3 I (4v1Qt�rt� t _ � � �Ah� ��tQ oh ��'!L' d. Ss� ��s�,u��Qd thca �ircul�tio� ��rn �ca i�h� �Q��t� ��. it i,�ill bo Q�'�ected iay �hc� v�e�t�,on o� '��v�� ra��3 ir� fr�Qr�t oC Mie�t,�� F'ord, �nd tha devalo�amc�t�� o� �h�a �xten�,�e�n of �,ir��aln �r�ve, nar�Z�r�rl o� C2. th� th� ��t;�� <�a'�3 h��r-}� of �he o�,d mt�nicip�l liq6uot Ab�a�ld n 1Qw�d th� ��ur�tr�}�� aei� !�� tf�u��nt sS,�e wZYieh �r� imp�ct��i � ��gv�t�d r��`�� '��on t� r��i �� t a an �ot��h oi C��nty Fto�d C? . �'h�y w.i1, ]. b� b�c� k � with revised plans and to review the financial planning as it � relates to soils corrections, site clearance, and potential right of way acquisition. 3. N�ss (�88-72G1) � L� Rog� r H�ss �ro�os�s a 1� by lh foot 3-season �orch on approximately half of the deck on his house which faces McCarrons Lake of� Shady Beach Road and McCarron Street (on the east side of McCarrons Lake). H� notes that his existing deck is apProxim�tely 100 Eee�t from the normal high water mark, a distance that we confirmed by examining the aerial photos. The porch wi11 extend 4 f��t further than the existing deck, and thus it a��et7rs th�t the new setback to the normal high water line d�ill be 9G f��t. The ��din�7nce r�equires 75 feet setback so we concl�icied tty�t th� p�coposed expansfon of his home will be well cy itt�in the :+Ii�r'G'i lll� �-�nd zoning requirements. We reviewed, with i��m, thc ��rc��d��r.�� f�or �rocessing a shoreline permYt. It �'�p�� rc�i th.�t i f he wou 1�l g�t th� a�ppl ication in by Friday, wf th the ��t��c-ca��rir�tc �iCQ �l��n, ttj��t it could lac roviewed at the next Co�t�Cil me��ng, �. E�el�ir ��.i�1dQ�s ade rQ�ia��c� th� ��le� fo� �c�la�ir�s proposed application for redovelapm�nt �[ �h� ��o�nco �fto �t the northwest corn�r of Co�nty �o�ic� C� �nc� F��rtridc�c�. Ot� O�c�mb�r 27, the �elair Palks eiro��Q�! �a!'f �� 11y ��vi�ad plan which includQs loaving the c�x �t�t ��tc� �le��►rl�� T�+u��; ��h��►c� oper��ion �nd �i�vaio�ing only th� t-c��i��*c- �C tt�� Qit+�. 'l'1»� �� tot��ly di�'Perant �a�am th� tota] cl��rr�yri�� ,:� t��c� �l �:��u��c� t1�bt th� sta�f h�d sup�arted as �ot�nti��t t�x in�r��t�+� ��o��m, FurtlYer, no p�a�, utilitie� c�X�a+�irj�� ar• ��r�n��g� �ol�t�an� h�v� be�n s�bmitt�d. Mr. Jopk� �t�+�n pt1�r��t t1�� +��_i� �'alk� to inParm �h�m o� our eonc�rns, �t 4�rlti�l� tfr�� 11�� ue��G�l �t�c� �pp]�ic�tion sch�dul�d for h�ering i��t�� ha t��r�r�inc� C�mm��ion on J�n�aary � be takaled to the �'et��u�� r}� 1 m��t i rrc� . t�� t�� e;o��:�rr��i ak�e�ut ti�� h� r��t3�n�nr� �a��ei�n� o� �i��c9�1t��c1 t1� � � �. i t� �Q�• �� ny �. �t�l��ta��i C ��-4��Oc�� turn of �v�nts th�� arould r�sult tty� old �truc�ur�� th�t hAve ��a rs . �7im C��l�li��c�, ��hit�et d,��h KK�, M�rk ��Tastre �nd �ll�n �ro�n, o� Tr�►nu�b �� n �a ��vi�w ravis�d plans �or thQ Roseda�e hl�rkczt�al�eQ �hoN�inc� C�nt�ar dQv�lopmont on th� old Control Dat� �ite� �t �hc s��h�Q�t co�-ne�r o� Caunt� Ro�d �2 �nd Fairvi�w. W� rcavi.��,�oci the redQv�lopmont propo6al chnngas ��c��c�� ess, e�re��, par}:i�r��, d��in��c�e, Ar'd i�uilding design. Thay prasent�d a �rc�po�,�� al��c �� r��g �tructu�a �t the sautiYeast corner �I �1�e �i�c Gor�t,i�uous to th� m�in on�r�nc�. wo sugg�sted that tt�� ,rcaul�l }�� in�p�raprilt� nating that bringing the �ntrance to t�G � i�� i�ct��en two �truc�ur�s ms would r�sult �,n this case, that this woulc� produce an undesirable restrictive entrance, both � visually and iunctionally. They need to go back to the original concept, though we are concerned about the actual length of the entrance driveway as it relates to stacking capacity prior to entering the principle parking area. They proposed variances to the setbacks because of the additiQnal requirements for right of way dedication. We suggested that there are no hardship conditions here that can be justiiied and that the dedications on setbacks should be as prescribed. They noted that the building will be b�ick on all sides and that previous propasals were combinations of concr�te block units and brick have been abandoned. We discussed new orientation of p�rt of the parking area so as to creat� safer conditians �or the access to the 14n� leg of the L-�haped shopping cen�er. T��y will consider suc� a chanqe, although they are Goncerned about the capacity for park�ng oriented to the two larger stor�s �o the nort� and to t�e westerly leq of tho cent�r. It app�ars that tMe changes rev3ewed will contribute to a final design that wili work well on �h� sit�. Mr. Ke�l revie��r�r� ��rQlimi�ary dr�inage soluti�n w,ith them which thcy �r� bringing b��ore tt�a RicQ Creek ��at�r Shed thi� week (priar to th� Plat�nirig Ccammis�ion hearinQ) . �'riis s��u�ion includes intcr�m ponding in the p�rking ��►, but d�,sign �'or a ca�aci.ty that takQs into �c�ount �ha existing impQ�vious ns�u�� oP thQ �ite. I� 13i�cc� Craak Wat@r Sh�d ellowe thom �o p�°occ��d on � th�� p�c��, the int�rim pQndi�ng w�ll handlo th� di�f�r�n�c� betweQn thc� run o�P �� it no�t QxiBtss and th�t whicta i.t will ba �e a shoppinc� �Q�tcr site. 7`his is sic�ni�icant�y di��e��nt �rom th� di �`�crence in r�an ot� be�r�y c�lcula��d b��ci on �cein �all pen+�tr�tion on �n op�n sitct. W� also �°aviewed th� s,ignage pro�r�m ��rh�ch ��ill �llo��r t��a pylon sign� instQAd o� tti+� �llawable �t��Qa a,ritt� p��ovision� �or t�o c�round �igr�s contiguou� to �h� twc entr�r,c�� on thQ no�t1� �ido a� �hQ �ito ofP Go�anty Ro�►d �2. 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