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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, March 26, 2018 Page 11 Fire Chief O'Neill concurred that is correct. Councilmember Willmus noted that number is fixed in time based on to- day's dollars, so there will be a certain percentage increase year-over-year as well. He wondered if that increase might wipe out the revenue projec- tions. He would like to see some of those projections. Councilmember McGehee asked about revenue stream and funding. She expressed opposition to the FD selling the 4 pillars to the community be- fore understanding the longer-term expense of what this is going to mean and whether it is a sustainable program. She added that in general she has reservations about engaging the community and selling future programs that are not fully understood. Fire Chief O'Neill noted that the 24 firefighters are the number regardless of whether any of these programs are pursued. That is the bottom line number of what is needed to protect the community. The 5-member crew on duty today is the same figure that was on-duty in the 1940s, even though the FD responded to 100 calls per year back then and now respond to 5,000 per year. He explained that he would be asking for 8 regardless of any of the pillars. The programs in the 4 Pillars are value-added that will bring benefit to the community. Councilmember McGehee stated she would like to see things in place and operating before adding anything. Fire Chief O'Neill stated the FD would be telling the community what they get for their budget dollars. It is also an opportunity to hear from multiple members of the community. Sometimes trying to get feedback from the community does not, and this is an opportunity to hit the ground and reach many aspects of the population. He pointed out that Roseville FD has done a remarkable job of providing services, especially as com- pared with surrounding communities with much larger budgets like Edina, Coon Rapids and Richfield. As part of the growth process, the FD needs additional money. It is important to communicate to the community tran- sitioning from a part-time to a full-time FD. When the FD comes back to Council in October/November, the goal is to have communicated with 10 percent of the community. Councilmember Willmus commented on EMT transports and 911 reduc- tion. He commented that before he would jump in with both feet and ap- prove the staffing model in phase II, he would want additional information in those two items. He does not have a problem starting a conversation with the community, because it is the community who will say yes or no