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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, December 2, 2019 Page 23 Councilmember Groff thought that was interesting and wondered if all of the oth- er companies are under-estimating their amounts. Mr. Culver thought the other firms put too much value on the cost containment and were trying to hold the cost down more than LHB and LHB really felt strong- ly that if the city wanted a good master plan out of this and will be good for the city for the twenty-forty year time period then that is what the cost would be. Councilmember Willmus noted the thing he does keep coming back to is the ex- perience scoring as those are of particular interest to him. When looking at what BKV has scored versus LHB and then the overall number, he is really struggling with that discrepancy in price, because even if BKB might come back and indi- cate an add-on, there is still significant room for that add between these two pro- posals. Councilmember Etten explained one of the things that is outlined in the LHB pro- posal is to provide five options to the city when done. He wondered if there was any fleshing out by BKV about what that company was going to produce to the city. He asked if it is one plan or multiple plans. Mr. Culver explained the RFP called out for up to five plans. He assumed BKV went up to five, but he felt that given the task and the narrative LHB had for their concept component of the proposal, he thought LHB was going to spend more time moving from draft concept one and two to ultimate final concept. He added there are three larger firms that submitted proposals, BKV, HKGI and LHB and staff all felt that those were all large firms that had done master plans for cities and had significant municipal, county and State experience. He did not think the city would get a bad product from any one of them, it is just a question of how good is that final product going to be and that is why staff put their necks out there on the highest priced one. If Council feels very strongly about going with a value-based proposal, then he was not going to disagree with Council. Councilmember Groff did not think he would be looking at this as just value based but he did not see enough difference between the firms and it is easy to go with LHB because the city has used them in the past and knows how that firm works. But, he was not convinced that it would be the best product in the end. Mayor Roe offered an opportunity for the public comment, with no one coming forward. Willmus moved, Groff seconded, directing staff to negotiate a Professional Ser- vices Agreement for the Civic Campus Master Plan with BKV, Inc. Council Discussion