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when they create laws that you know a lot of people are going to break, what you are doing is giving a license to all law enforcement entities to stop people. A person needs probable cause to stop someone and question them. By passing laws making most people law breakers, the officials are giving law enforcement a license to really stop anyone they want to and that should be a serious concern that people have. Chair Ficek thanked Mr. Kysylyczyn for his input. Mr. Culver explained that, as a representative of the City Engineers Association of Minnesota, he actually testified against the 2019 bill that passed. The language that finally ended up in Statute was actually a combination of a couple of bills that had been introduced in the proper course of time through the process. There were several hearings about it over the House and Senate committees. The feedback he got when he was there from his own representative was that they were tired of listening to engineers asking them to let the engineers study it again. His testimony at the time was they should really give the engineers a chance to reconnect as a group, as an industry and with the special interest groups to talk about what the statutory stream of it should be, because the cities felt very strongly and counties feel the same way about the fill that talks about the counties setting the speed limits on their roads. This is not something that should be done piecemeal. This is not something that one county or city should have a different set of speed limits than the city or county next to them because it gets away from uniformity of the law which then there really is confusion out there and people do not know what the speed limit is if the person happens to not to see the sign, for whatever reason. That was their major concern and he was told in very blunt words that the Legislature is just tired of listening to the engineers and that the Legislatures were going to fix the problem and this was their way of fixing the problem. He appreciated Mr. Kysylyczyn coming done to discuss this. Mr. Culver indicated that enforcement is going to be the biggest issue and how will the City enforce this and when will it be enforced. How will the City get the police officers to embrace some targeted enforcement in that and will clearly have to be a part of the whole picture if the City is going to make the speed limit actually effective. Member Cicha thought it sounds like this is something the Commission should at least hear from the Police Chief about because as he understood it, the Police Department is against this and he would like to hear their reason why. He thought hearing from the Police Chief would help in making a recommendation. Chair Ficek wondered if this would be a good opportunity to collaborate with the Police Department Commission on. He indicated he did not have any idea on what that might look like though. Page 2 of 9