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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, May 20, 2024 Page 7 number would be in the twenty-five-to-forty-thousand-dollar range for a study,but is an estimate. Mayor Roe thought a separate thing from looking at the 2025 budget, as a separate item to look at is what the 2024 budget would be if the City was at a nine to ten minimum staffing level and the appropriate apparatus. He asked what that would cost because then the Council could talk about whether the City would want to transition the over time and look at other items to have some further conversations. Councilmember Strahan thought there would be a transition regardless. She would think the City would have to look at building into that and maybe if the City had another opportunity to achieve another safer grant it would help the City grow into that and make it a lot easier on the budget. Councilmember Groff indicated he could see that as a transition and he did not think the Fire Department staffing would jump up so quickly. But on the other hand, when he does talk to residents, he does not hear anyone say to cut the Fire Department. He thought the residents wanted the City to have delivery of services and the residents understand all of those things. It is just a matter of the City doing this in a way that makes sense. Councilmember Schroeder asked if Maplewood's model seemed to make sense to the Fire Chief or if Maplewood just barely kept up by adding on. Chief Brosnahan explained Maplewood is barely keeping up as well but one thing to note about Maplewood is that city does provide full transport so there will be one unit that will be out of service down at Regions where Roseville's crew gets to clear and come back when Allina takes over. Mr. Trudgeon reviewed the thought behind the staffing study for the Fire Department. Councilmember Etten explained he had some skepticism about how much new stuff the study is going to discover versus figuring out the City needs firefighters. He wondered if a study would be done every three to four years to make determinations and he did not know what that end point is versus looking at some of the data provided, which is quite clear showing there is an increased need. Mayor Roe thought a longer-range look would be important to do at this point. Whether it is done as a study by a third party or whether the City takes a twenty- year look at where the Fire Department needs to be and tries to figure out if there is going to be a phase four so the City starts to know what that is already going to look like. He thought whether it is ten percent or five percent a year, it is somewhere in that range but does not necessarily see where that trend is going to start to fall. So, maybe for the foreseeable future, they are talking about a couple