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19 more than others and I would hope that some solution could be worked out to have people save yards and trees. FROM THE AUDIENCE: If there is so much concern about losing property, (inaudible) and the people don't want to give it up, why not let them buy it (inaudible) in order to pay for the property across (inaudible) instead of just giving it to those people because we all have to pay for our full property, and then too, ban parking completely on the street. Let them park in their own yard or (inaudible) when that street is used mainly by the city trucks (inaudible) and school busses and when these busses come down those slopes on Oxford to Woodhill they're just can't be cars parked along there when they're sliding because they can't (inaudible) I would hope the Council would table this and get some input from the residents on Oxford as to how it can be (inaudibld) until Woodhill is improved where the new Oxford was put in. We will never be able to get out of the ice from our driveways. MAYOR DEMOS: At this time I will close the hearing. I'm going to make my statements first tonight. I'm going to speak first rather than last as I customarily do, but I'm going to tell you how I'm going to vote. I'm going to vote against it. I am not voting my conscience. I'm giving in, but I want to tell you something, and I'm going to repeat the statement I made in 1976 sitting here. We did propose a permanent street program and regardless of what anyone tells you to the contrary about the cost and so forth, the reason we considered such a thing was the rising cost of maintenance. When our streets were put in in Roseville, including Oxford Avenue, which I saw put in, they were not put in from hot paving machines or anything else. It was road mix, done right on the road. I saw it myself because I didn't happen to live but about two blocks away so I know how that street was built. They were built that way because they knew one day there would be a sewer and there would be a storm sewer. Maybe some of us, when we bought our homes didn't think of those things, but the people who did build knew that - who built the road - they knew. The reason I know is the person who built that road also built the road I built on and he stood and told me when I was taking a petition up and down my street to get my street improved so our kids didn't have allergies from dust and our cars weren't being pulled out of the mud, he told me what was going to happen so I know what he thought, that all these things would be put in and ultimately he was trying to get me to postpone my petition saying, wait until the storm sewer and sewer go in, etc. Contaminated water helped us a little faster and we got some of our work done quicker, but when you build a street out of road mix there do come holes, and in year 1 of a hole it's so big and you can patch it, but the next spring that same hole is there, but bigger. Therefore, (inaudible) number of dollars worth of patch in that hole does not fill it in year 2. It's "x" nwnber of dollars plus a few more dollars because each year that hole gets wider and deeper. I want to say that when we gave you the price in 1976, and I believe it was $7.20 or $7.27 a front foot, and remind you that