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-2- Discussion Mr. Dahlgren reviewed the recent revisions of the sign ordinance and stated that this request would require a setback variance, Recommendation Mro Go Johnson moved and Mr, Durgin seconded, that the Commission recommend approval of Jerry Showalter's request for variance to sign setback at 2650 North Cleve land 0 Roll Call, Ayes: Cushing, V, Johnson, Go Johnson, Durgin, Kellett, Membrez and GraueL Nays: None 0 Planning File 855 - Engler Theatres request for variance to sign size at 1201 Larpenteur Avenue Presentation Howard Beaver of Ruvelson & Associates represented the Engler Theatreso He indicated that the theatres were requesting a variance in sign size from 100 square feet to 162 square feeto He also stated that the pylon steel that had been used for the Atlantic Store would be used for the new signo Mro Beaver presented a slide presentation which demonstrated the need for a larger sign than allowed by ordinance due to the excessive setback of the building in question. He also indicated that there is sufficient room on the existing steele to allow signs for the two remaining tenants of the Spartan Atlantic Store to be placed at that location, Discussion Mro Grauel asked if the Applebaums Store had indicated if they were going to place their sign as shown in the application, Mr. Dahlgren stated that Sid Applebaum had called him very recently and had indicated that they were proposing to place their sign on the existing steel, Vern Johnson indicated that should Applebaums not place their sign on the existing pylon, they could put an additional pylon on the property in accordance with our code 0 He asked if there were methods by which this. could be better controlled, Vern Johnson questioned if the steele support was adequate to handle the wind loads that would be imposed upon ita -R~ommendation Mro Membrez moved and Mr, Kellett seconded, that the Commission recommend approval of Engler Theatres request for variance to sign size at 1201 Larpenteur Avenue, and also recommended that the City staff indicate.....,to the owner of the building what was desired by the Planning Commission, Mr, Go Johnson moved that the motion be amended with the conditions that the structural steele be made adequate to support the additional two signs and that Applebaums be allowed to exceed the sign ordinance by 35 square feet and the third tenant exceed the sign ordinance by 20 square feet as shown on the drawings submitted in the application 0 The amendment failed for lack of a second, Roll Call on the original motion: Ayes: Cushing, Durgin, Kellett, Membrez, GraueL Nays: V 0 Johnson, Go Johnsono