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6/5/1985
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<br />Page 2 <br />Planning Commission Meeting <br />June 5, 1985 <br /> <br />permitted in the ordinance by two feet. Thus, the setback variance requested <br />includes five feet for the building and an additional two feet for the excess <br />eave overhang. <br /> <br />Matson indicated his concern for traffic backing up on Cleveland as a result of <br />the drive through facility. Mr. Norstrom indicated that as suggested in <br />Mr. Dahlgren's report, Burger King would agree to construct an additional turn lane <br />onto south bound Cleveland should a problem develop. However, he felt such problem <br />would be unlikely with the efficient two window drive through facility proposed. <br /> <br />Mr. Matson suggested it would be appropriate to build the turn lane now and avoid <br />the potential for problems. Mr. Drown indicated that while it would be possible to <br />have that done, it might be wiser to adopt a "wait and see" attitude and deal with <br />the problem appropriately when it develops. Mr. Drown indicated that there might <br />be some geometric problems with a very short turn lane so close to the Cleveland <br />and C intersection. <br /> <br />Matson asked where the sewers were located on the site. Mr. Drown indicated that <br />the sanitary sewer ran along the south side of C in an east-west direction, and <br />that storm drainage was available at the extreme northwest corner of the site. <br />Mr. Norstrom indicated that they had their plans reviewed by the Rice Creek <br />Watershed District. <br /> <br />Mr. Miller asked for an explanation of how the two window drive through facility <br />functions. Mr. Norstrom indicated it was a new concept, only about six months old, <br />but several were already constructed in the Twin City area. The first window <br />functions as a pay window where no food is served, and the second delivers the <br />food. Theoretically, this doubles the speed of the drive through transactions. <br /> <br />Ms. Berry questioned how many cars could fit between the windows. Mr. Norstrom <br />indicated that one to two cars could fit between the windows, approximately four <br />cars could stack from the first window to the order station, and approximately <br />three cars could stack from the order station to the parking lot aisle. <br /> <br />Berry noted that medians existed both on County Road C and on Cleveland prohibiting <br />left turns into the site. She expressed her concern that the intersection is very <br />busy, particularly in the p.m. peak hour periods. <br /> <br />Wiski asked if the applicant had established peak hour traffic numbers and a <br />directional distribution for their customers. Mr. Norstrom indicated that they <br />didn't do a traffic study for this site, and he doesn't have the information. <br />However, he would estimate that three to four hundred trips a day would be <br />generated by the facility, with 60% arriving from County Road C and 40% arriving <br />through the Cleveland driveway primarily from the freeway. <br /> <br />Mr. Matson questions how north bound Cleveland traffic could get into the site. He <br />suggested they might make a U turn at the intersection of Long Lake Road and County <br />Road C to the west. Mr. Drown indicated that there was a left turn slot at that <br />
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