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<br />acres, the developers propose approximately 600 homes (over 1,000 in the three phases), 300,000 square feet of <br />multi-floor office space, and between 300,000 and 350,000 square feet of retail space. (By way of comparison Har- <br />Mar is about 450,000 square feet.) In addition the developers are considering a re-alignment to Twin Lakes <br />Parkway to adapt to their internal traffic flows. Welsch introduced Adam Arvidsen, Michael Noonan, John <br />Johannson, and Tim Whitten. Adam Arvidsen, consulting planner, provided a review of the Stakeholder process. <br /> <br />The proposed project has more housing and retail (and less office space) than the Adopted (June 2001) Twin <br />Lakes Master Plan amendment to the Comprehensive Plan. In addition to considering whether an amendment to <br />the comprehensive plan is necessary, the city and developer will have to review the project impacts and determine <br />whether notice of reduced impact amendment or a full scale amendment must be done for the Alternative Urban <br />Area Review (AUAR). The developer will then file an application for concept approval of a Planned Unit <br />Development and a preliminary plat. <br /> <br />The approximate phase 1, 70 acre parcel lies between County Road C and C-2 and between Cleveland and <br />Fairview Avenues. Interspersed in this site are four new (less than 10 years old) one story Ryan hi-tech-flex or <br />office buildings, as well as McGough's new buildings, all of which will remain in the development. <br /> <br />The current Rottlund proposal has two options, each of which would reduce the traffic projected in the 2001 AUAR <br />by 40%. Option One is considered the continuous Twin Lakes Parkway option which follows the original master <br />plan site layout, except for more retail north of the parkway nearer to Cleveland. Housing surrounds Langton Lake, <br />some additional parkway and walking trails and new park edges are added to Langton Lake and Drainage Ditch 4 <br />as well as Oasis Park. The traffic consultant (Steve Wilson of SRF) projects that this alternative will cause fewer <br />vehicles (staff estimate 500 to 1,000 daily) to turn north or continue north on Fairview into the existing <br />neighborhood. <br /> <br />Option Two is considered the Loop Road, Non-Continuous access from Cleveland to Fairview option. While similar <br />to Option One, it has a direct or easier access to Langton Lake because the Parkway crossing the site has been <br />disconnected and reduced in size to reflect the residential uses which are adjacent to it. Housing surrounds <br />Langton Lake, some additional parkway and walking trails and new park edges are added to Langton Lake and <br />Drainage Ditch 4 as well as Oasis Park. <br /> <br />Mr. Welsch suggested that the Commission provide Rottlund Homes, Mr. Noonan and City staff with comments, <br />direction and and/or any questions pertaining to the development proposal. <br /> <br />Member Traynor liked integrity of park, lake and closeness of housing to park. Location of Big Box could be at C <br />and Cleveland with smaller stores north and east, nearer to the residential areas. Why break up Twin Lakes <br />Parkway? It moves traffic better in a tasteful manner. This is not a "main street", but something different, like a mix <br />of housing types and affordable. It needs an entertainment complex and independent restaurants - model after <br />Centennial Lakes. The park is the public amenity, focus on it, and add to it. Showcase for the "sense of place". <br /> <br />Member Doherty asked if the City will have a say in whom the Big Box is? John Johanson explained the <br />differences between Big Boxes. Member Doherty asked in Phase 1 (70 acres) how much will be devoted to Big <br />Box (13-14 acres), retail (20 acres), office (8 acres), residential (30 acres). <br /> <br />Chair Mulder asked if there will be "mixed use buildings". John Johannson explained that Twin Lakes will not have <br />a "main street" because of prohibition on parking on Parkway and the direct access to the freeway. Only 20-30,000 <br />s.t. of office above retail could be done in this plan. <br /> <br />Member Doherty asked if Phase 1 (600 homes on 30 acres, no single family, some townhomes) - could be ten <br />units to 30 units per acre. Member Doherty asked about the 300,000 square feet of multi-level office at C-2 and <br />Cleveland, and said he did not like the jog in the Parkway. A general discussion of financing strategies ensued. <br /> <br />Member Doherty asked what is done in winter on open spaces; are there people using them in winter? (limited use) <br />Could the park area be more manicured? He asked if small retail will lease up (yes). <br /> <br />Member Bakeman commented that traffic management\control is an imperative; solve County Road C and D from <br />today through 2020. Show if this would be a fully functioning truck terminal in 2020. <br /> <br />Chair Mulder asked what happens with traffic. Mr. Noonan explained that the Parkway carries more traffic, but less <br />traffic goes north on Fairview. Chair Mulder advised he struggled with disjointed parkway. Deb Bloom agreed. The <br />County will have issues with it; p.m. peak hour traffic and capacity is important. <br /> <br />Member Pust appreciated respectful approach to Stakeholders. If not office uses at C-2 and Cleveland, what use is <br />proposed? (Multi-family). A sub-neighborhood could be created. What are the price points for housing? (High end <br />seniors, empty nesters, young professionals with mid-point $250-350,000) He asked if this retail will hurt Rosedale. <br />John Johannson noted this (Roseville) is a very strong market. Rosedale itself is trying to develop a life style retail <br />center at the Mervyns site. Competition is good for this market. <br />
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