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City of Roseville - Planning Commission Agenda for June 1, 2005Page 3 of 7 Member Boerigter asked for clarification of the conditions which would be placed on the future house He asked if the lot size variance was unusual in Roseville (no). Where would the access point (driveway) be located? (on Dale Court). What is the lot coverage? (less than 30%). Member White asked if the new owner of the lot is almost required to get a variance (no) because the Planning Commission is validating the need for a variance by approving the lot. Member Wozniak asked if the conditions prohibiting a variance could be stated. (cannot prohibit a future owner from requesting a variance). Member Doherty expressed concern that the next buyer will not understand the restriction of this lot. Member White asked if the Commission could describe his requirements to build within the setback triangle on the lot. Todd Iliff, representing the owner and family, explained the proposal to sell the lot. He said safety and sight line issues are not major concerns when turning on to Dale Street. The design of the home, reasonably sized, would be consistent with the neighborhood. He did hire an architect who tested a number of housing shapes. Member White described a similar home on Como Avenue. Member Bakeman asked for sewer and soil boring information on the site. Mt. Iliff explained that there has been no problem on the site for the past 30 years. Mike Radovich, 1820 Dale Court, explained his concern regarding landscaping needed to protect the house form Dale Street traffic especially near the corner. Site lines are one of his concerns. Thomas Paschke explained the traffic visibility triangle, 30 feet either side of a corner property line at the intersection. Any plans for landscaping and fencing would be reviewed and regulated under a building permit. Chair Traynor noted that the property owner of Parcel B would need a site plan and building permit for the house and fencing. A condition can be included for any landscaping ad fence review during the building permit application and review. Mr. Doherty explained that non-conforming landscaping could be installed after the building is complete. Mr. Radovich said the intersection is the only place the neighborhood can enter Dale Street to head north. Mr. Iliff explained that because of the wide Dale Street Boulevard, a 400 foot line of sight to the south is possible. Thomas Paschke explained how the city would enforce visibility along and around the corner. Julie Efta, 646 Pineview Court, said this is a busy intersection, even with school buses. Could right of way be redesigned to allow for easier bus movements. Thomas Paschke explained there are no plans (city or county) to widen the intersection. Mark Heffen, Alta Vista Drive, expressed concern for traffic safety. Fences and wildlife are a concern. There are up to 10 deer in this area. A fence will detour the deer. IN October and November the big deer movement is between 4:30pm and 5:30pm. The deer may jump into the right of way. A fence will create the deer run problems. The area is a heavy fog area in fall. The neighborhood is at least 50% over the age of 50, requiring more lines of sight for visibility. Dale Street is very fast. Thomas Paschke explained that nothing prohibits the current owner from installing a fence today. He explained that the land division with conditions, will not be detrimental to the public. Member Boerigter said the minor subdivision and confined building area is troubling. The Commission should make a finding that the lot is buildable and irregular, but this is not a reason to grant a variance request. There should be no other variances on this site. Member Bakeman agreed. She recommended the need for a permit for any fence. Member Doherty agreed with both. He expressed concern with the size of the buildable area; he is not sure what can be built on this lot. Member Boerigter expressed concern that the next owner will not be aware of the Commission concerns. Member White supports the efforts because the city has policies and regulations in place http://www.ci.roseville.mn.us/council/planning/minutes/2005/pm050803.htm12/27/2005