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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, November 16, 2009 Page 9 items supporting total numbers on expense summaries for specific programs, typically consisting of 20-25 pages breaking down expenditures. Mayor Klausing reminded Councilmember Ihlan and the public that, as previ- ously noted by staff, staff has not yet prepared a line item budget, since a different process is underway for this 2010 budget cycle; with the 160 programs identified from the 2009 budget along with the Springsted Report and analysis; with the 2009 budget document available for reference and showing line items as being re- quested. Councilmember Ihlan noted that she wanted to see a breakdown of non-property tax programs as well as property-tax supported programs as soon as possible in order to facilitate further discussion. Councilmember Ihlan further questioned if the current assumptions were based on the full 2010 Preliminary Tax Levy and Budget request to-date; and if that number included the proposed 2010 HRA Levy. Councilmember Ihlan requested the total amount if the City and HRA Lev- ies were combined; and whether this assumed any use of reserves, or was com- pletely tax and fee based. Mr. Miller advised that, as it currently stood, the 2010 City Manager- recommended budget reflected the Preliminary Levy and Budget assumptions; and was only based on the City portion of the Preliminary Levy, not the HRA Pre- liminary Levy. Mr. Miller further advised that the City Levy currently stood at an approximate 8.8% increase, and the addition of the HRA Levy would be ap- proximately 9 or 9.1 %; and that it assumed no use of reserves at this time. Councilmember Ihlan questioned how the level of services were reflected in the actual budget; if the BFO process was actually meant to prioritize what was funded and the level of service funded; and how the public could determine im- pacts of alternative levels of service. Mr. Miller advised that this would be the next step in future budget cycles, fol- lowing further City Council deliberation and direction to staff; since staff has only been able to define a portion of services, but not on a city-wide basis. Councilmember Roe suggested to staff that, in addition to Attachment B, the Springsted report identifying personnel services, and supplies (4 categories total) as an additional page for Attachment B would suffice and provide the requested information. Councilmember Ihlan advised that she wanted something more detailed than that; and was attempting to find comparable information on the website beyond just those four categories per department, since some are more specific than others; and addressed how money was spent within specific departments, and the appli- cable funding sources.