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1/23/1997
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Regardless iftha ordinance is changed or not, x~ould the cin~ be liable,for ant' accidents on the <br />lake? The cih• would not be liable unless the situation were ver<• unusual. Roseville <br />would have "diseretionan' immunity". <br />II'Izat effect ~rould atz orditzatzce change have otz other lakes in or partly itz Roseville, such as <br />1~IcCurroizs atzd Josephine? The other lakes would also be changed (what if a JP?, with <br />another cit}' was required?-PE). Only 702.03 (speed) and 702.10 (aircraft) are unique to <br />Owasso. <br />II'lzat role do the coutzn• commissioners have, ifany, in setting rules or in detarmifzing the nan~re <br />of etforcement and permitting? They have no role in enforcement, permitting, or setting <br />rules, unless the city does nothing. Both Shoreview (city code 903.020) and Roseville <br />(702.04, 702.06) have 300' no-wake buffer ordinances enacted in 1953, so the count}• <br />would not step in. Shoreview cannot change to 150' without Roseville's agreement and <br />D':`TR approval. The old laws are in effect now. Other discussion: The reason to change <br />the ordinance is to compl}' with DNR rules (GW). The Sheriff doesn't like to enforce <br />300' because it is hard to estimate, and warnings are issued unless the violation is so clear <br />that a citation would hold up in court (1~~1C). <br />iI'ith regard to seasotal permits, does the sheriff consider only safen~, or are there ant' other <br />criteria? It is primarily safety, but also env other laws, including cit}~ codes (t-IC). <br />1\lore general state goals for wrater surface use (MIST 6110.3200) are not considered. Both <br />cities' approval is needed before a permit is issued (DA); a slalom that is not left up <br />overnight doesn't need a permit (SP) <br />II'hat is the lagnl status of tlza currant procadatra for grantitzg annual permits? Is the sheriff <br />obliged to follo„• the cities' ~,~ishes? (`Sheriff obtains approval of both Roseville and <br />Shoreviei,• before gratzting; public tzotification and~`or hearing and cir}--level dacision- <br />making process) Current Sheriff s polic}• is to require approval of both cities, but this is <br />not a legal requirement. Roseville cannot create a cit}' ordinance requiring the Sheriff to <br />obtain Roseville's approval prior to issuance of a permit. nor can Roseville specifically <br />outlaw any installation such as a slalom course. since the DNR gives this power to the <br />cottntt• Sheriff. ~ change in state law would be required to do this. <br />general discussion of Roseville's method of approving seasonal permit <br />applications ensued -The LOTF should make recommertdations to city council regarding <br />an appropriate permit approval procedure (PE). The city could consider both safet<• and <br />other lake management goals. In the last few years, residents near current installations <br />were notified prior to the city decision (DA): no objections were raised, so notices ceased <br />to be sent;. starting 1996, the city will no longer approve without a public hearing (~ortlt). <br />The ezisting slalom course is too crowded; owners cannot prevent others from using it; a <br />course in Sw' end of lake would be useful in certain wind conditions; this course would be <br />portable but not necessarily penttanent: it would serve users in the SW end (DA). <br />II "bar era the specific riparian rights? "Reasonable" use =access to, use of water. Rights e~-tend <br />to ordinary high water mark (the point at which vegetation changes from primarily <br />terrestrial to primarily aquatic (?~1C); commonl}', where trees start (JS). A Di~'R <br />appropriations permit is needed to pump > 10,000 gallons r day. <br />Do shorn o~rtzars Nava the right to clear access from shorn to lake? `Y'es. It is a riparian's right to <br />motor out from a .dock. Because statutes or ordinances are in abrogation of (supersede) <br />common. law, travel fromito dock must he done at no-wake speed, according to the current <br />ordinance. I~1C felt morn information was needed on how to specify this right and said he <br />
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