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COUNCILMAN HESS: Therels a criteria of what. type of road - where itls going to. Rice Street was studied to try to get it down to 30 miles an hour near McCarronls Beach. People were driving 50. MR. THOMPSON: Can't you ticket them? COUNCILMAN HESS: They never do. MR. THOMPSON: Arden Hills makes their living that way. COUNCIU~~N HESS: So they raised it from 35 to 40 because that was the average. MR. HONCHELL: They have some other factors, such as the type of neighborhood, the number of driveways in and out, but by far the biggest factor is how fast people drive on the road. That's one of the reasons that I guess the city is a little cautious on when we request traffic studies because it can go up as well as down. If we think they Ire going up we try to talk people out of requesting a study because the state makes a study and the state goes by the number (inaudible). MR. THOMPSON: And nobody gets tickets. MAYOR DEMOS: I have a question. If this were approved and we passed a resolution asking that we have bicycle markings along there, does that have to go through the Parks and Recrea- tion Department or straight through the Highway Department? MR. LEONARD: I think that could (inaudible) county road through the county engineer and any agreement here would spell out your participation and any conditions that you want (inau- dible) prior to the construction starting. MAYOR DEMOS: In other words, we can accept it on that condition. MR. ALLAN MODJESKI, 3060 Raymond Avenue: I have kind of mixed feelings about the roadway because I'm in the middle of "35" truck traffic here all day long. Cleveland Avenue is up to 80 trailers running through there in an hour and double bot- toms, but Cleveland as it is today for bike traffic with trucks l2