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13 south half of that property so it would be developable, but I guess I'm in agreement with the Widerski's, and I don't feel that he should have to pay the $11,000 assessment. It just doesn't seem right if we consider that his frontage (inaudible) except that the lots 21, 22 and 23 would have an equal amount of frontage (inaudible) or western cul-de-sac. MR. HONCHELL: If you volunteer to pick that up as your frontage I can guarantee his assessment will be down, but we have so many assessable feet and as long as 21, 22 and 23 are considered side lots (inaudible) we have only so many assessable feet and when we divide the project by the assessable feet there are, it turns out to be those kinds of numbers. MR. NOTTO: What if the project were tabled for, say five years. Is there any way to estimate what it would be then? MR. HONCHELL: Look back at what it was then. MAYOR DEMOS: I think we spent a lot of time on this, and I'd like to think it over and talk to the engineer, and I guess what I don't understand - if there's a cul-de-sac - why the frontage isn't on the cul-de-sac. COUNCILMAN FRANKE: How come there haven't been any houses on that cul-de-sac? MR. HONCHELL: There is a dedicated road - Wagner Street - there is supposed to be a south half of Wagner Street. That is a road, it has frontage. It was plat ted that way, it was originally intended that way and has been (inaudible) the transportation plan. Since 1928 how long have they talked about having Wagner Street (inaudible). MR. WIDERSKI: That was known as Wagner Avenue and Roseville never at any time had the right to stop plowing me out - which I never put in a bid for it. I paid for plowing it out or plowed it myself so that (inaudible) all the way down to your play- ground, right straight through, that used to be known as Wagner Avenue. As long as there's a home built on either one I don't think you had the option of shutting it off. MR. HONCHELL: I guess I'm not trying to imply that we're trying to shut you off or having (inaudible). It's unfortunate but the code establishes frontage side lots and we have to prepare our reports in accordance with those pOlicies. MR. ANDRE: I think there is probably agreement that there is not an urgency for a street, and I guess what we're talking about is, what is the foreseeable immediate need for the sewer and water, and it seems there is going to be a need for the property on the north and on the corner and I think what we're talking about is dollars and I think that is the problem, and the matter of the assessment dOllars could be determined at the assessment hearing.