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13 DR. WILLIAM HILGEDICK, 1735 Skillman: The main concern we brought up last time, and I haven't heard fully addressed, was the speed that this avenue takes, and any comments about residents speed don't mean anything. One of the residents who didn't want to sign the petition said it hasn't been bad lately and they live at the worst part of the street. You asked, Mr. Kehr, about altering the speed by widening the street to 32 or 36. I'd say if it was simply smooth again we'd be back to the 40, 50 and 60 speeds on that street. It was horrendous. We're going back to when the street was in good shape: so you're talking about the street (inaudible) average smoothness and you will upgrade to smoother and somewhat wider - it's inevitable. I think the flavor of the petition that we sent to you was that we'd like to get together on something. There were many ideas cast about by the residents and we didn't really feel we were the experts or it was our place to build a road this way - change it this way - it was our point of view that as proposed it inevitably will take a very high speed. I don't know if it's the psychology of the open feel that you get when you get on the street. I have found myself doing it, I have to admit that. I don't blame the people at the bowling alley or McDonald's, but one has a feel coming from east to west that it's an easy shot up that street and I think the people - many tend to drive this faster than they do County Road B or Roselawn which seem to be somehow better regulated, so I would just add the plea to that letter and petition that certainly we'd like to improve it, but can't we get something about some overall plan which is something more than just widening and improving the street. If you say regulate the speed better, we'd like to know how, and I see how not to, don't put a stop sign, but how. Can you tell us what to do and not what not to do. ' I think there are studies on many streets that carry a lot higher speed than they were designed for, and we'd like to hear some of those things. What can you tell us about speed regulation that would be adequate - and so far it has just been entirely inadequate. I hope you have some old studies on that - the complaints in the past. I don't know if the Police keep a log book but I hope some of you have looked into that (inaudible) stated this last time and all we did between then and now is get together and re-state it and have a lot of ideas, but we're not the experts and we would look to and hope to have the experts working it out. We'd like to give you all the background and feed-back we can. I don't think we can do it all tonight but I think you need that if you're going to put a roadway in which will be livable. I agree with what you say about keeping the trucks off the street, but I don't think the kids should be near the street if they travel 60 miles an hour and I will swear to that, and it's no exaggeration. The famous accident was the one in which a car driving up