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14 the street from east to west took out a car in front of Siegfrieds, caromed off that across the Bossard's lawn, and slammed into their garage, knocking bricks off between the partitions of the two halves of the garage. This year a car in a similar area on the western end of this approach took out four cars in one smash, and that's no exaggeration. I think these' are not 35 and 40 mile an hour speeds. COUNCILMAN FRANKE: Was there alcohol involved in the accident? DR. HILGEDICK: probably so - that's a fair guess, but I don't think it's a fair thing to blame the speed on. COUNCIL KEHR: Do you sort of feel it's a speedway because it's sort of an isolated street there and very little patrolling going on? DR. HILGEDICK: It's hard to know. You do have an open feel running from east to west, and I don't know why it is. I think you might take it from the number of people that signed this that there is something to this, and maybe you have a hard time believing this, but if you 'want to keep on the questioning again as you did last time - MAYOR DEMOS: The thing we're up against is whether we can justify putting the amount of road mix into potholes that are becoming larger and larger and if we don't do it we have to dig out the base, and if we postpone it and do go to a residential standard (inaudible) it would be coming back at a higher cost both to the people who are getting the assessment and to the taxpayers. I guess we're talking dollars and cents, but I agree with you and I think there , should be some way we can keep the traffic slow, and I want to ask a question, and it's been alluded to by Mr. Kehr and Mrs. Franke. I don't know what's going to happen here tonight but there has to be something done, I believe, to slow the traffic, and they do speed, and the man is right, and I've witnessed time after time (inaudible) which would be better, and I'm talking of speed now - a 32 foot wide street without any cars parked on it, or a 36 with parking on one side. In other words, is there going to be enough parking to slow it down with 36, or would we be bet~r with 32. What is your opinion? DR. HILGEDICK: I'm no expert. I bring you the problem and not the solution. I don't think it's our logical or proper place to do that. Anyone could shoot us down immediately. I can guess just on the basis of being a driver and a citizen, but we present you the problem.