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IS COUNCILMAN KEHR: I believe having a 32 foot street with no parking you will find on occasion more cars (inaudible) I said, I believe that if you have a 32 foot street without parking that you will have an occasional parking there and perhaps even more so from time to time - which would create more of a hazard than if you had a 36 foot street with parking on one side, and I do believe that a 36 foot street with parking .on one side will deter speeding better than a 32 foot street without parking. DR. HILGEDICK: How about the experts on this? Do you have something to tell us about improving the safety? We don't want to prolong your meeting. COUNCILMAN KEHR: A thought I have in mind here - what I mentioned before, and I think this is something the engineer should perhaps look at, is putting in stop signs - those two different locations - and have them three or four-way stops, and I think this is something that perhaps you could look into and give that some consideration and see if that's worthwhile or if it might work. DR. HILGEDICK: And there's the pedestrian situation that we talked about, but we just (inaudible) for an overall plan that considers all these things. Get all these factors together - the congestion - the fact that the traffic comes here rather than Roselawn - more money to keep up Skillman this way because they don't use Roselawn. Everyone, including the Roseville vehicles will be taking this route when it's in better shape. The overall plan should make it easier to take these already better streets and Skillman will never be able to handle the traffic that Roselawn can, and I don't see how we as citizens (inaudible) COUNCILMAN CURLEY: I think you should let us talk. First of all, the concern is about speeding. I get the impression that 'we have an Indianapolis speedway there in those three blocks. I have been up it several times, and lived here 25 years, and the concern is always the same as yours when you want to widen a road - we'll get all kinds of people killed. I think the streets become safer and they don't have any more accidents than they did before. I'd hate to get the reputation of letting the roads go to hell and keep the potholes to slow them down. We're just as concerned about speed and safety and your children as anybody. We have had people in the past few years come in and petition for the same thing we're doing for you that you would get without an assessment, and these people are willing to pay for assess- ments - concrete curb and gutter which increases the value of the home, the beauty of the home - and not one came back and said the speed has increased - that the traffic got faster. I don't understand it; I don't know what we can do. You put us in a terrible condition. You want your street nice, but you don't want us to fix it so nice that the people speed up and down the street. We're not magicians - we're not Jesus Christ. You have ~o be practical.