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9 MRS. KATH: I'm just trying to tell you things as they were and the things they are now (inaudible) if you would only fix up those streets. Are you intending to go and rip up the base on those streets when it was put in according to the specifica- tions of Roseville? MR. HONCHELL: To respond to some of the points you made. As I stated before, to the best of my knowledge, that street has received (inaudible) Roseville maintenance. Each of you can have your own idea of what that is. The road was sealcoated in 1971 and 1975 so we have been sealcoating the street and maintaining the street. As far as what's under the road, that was not built by Roseville, but by the developer. Roseville did request a 7-ton street. I'm not trying to tell you what happened in 1963. MRS. KATH: Roseville engineered it and the costs should be recorded on your books. MR. HONCHELL: The testing laboratory, not me, the independent testing laboratory has given us a report after numerous borings that the roadway should be treated as if it had two inches of asphalt with no gravel under it (inaudible) as far as low carrying capability today. MRS. KATH: To my knowledge it had four inches of the top coat at the time, and also that street is 30 feet wide right now. Burke was 27. I did a little running around myself in 1976. I also saw Hamline Avenue when it was a gravel road and that has been built up and built up and they have never dug out the surface. It's just like Snelling Avenue today and it's holding up beautifully. They have (inaudible) rip that street out. I think you better find out their formula. MR. HONCHELL: The formula is 4 inches of asphalt. MRS. KATH~1aybe that's why they have these spaces down there by Kazeks. If that's supposed to be permanent what's going to be permanent in years to come? MR. HONCHELL: I guess I can only tell you we do a 20-year life design on our roadways. MRS. KATH: But if it's the goof of the city on these sewers it's not the people who have paid for this in the cost of their properties to (inaudible) MR. HONCHELL: There are no storm sewer costs proposed on Eldridge. No proposal to put any storm sewers on Eldridge. MRS. KATH: (Inaudible) because if you only knew the hours that went into this (inaudibl~ fifties and 1976, it's not just something to slide over. COUNCILMAN CURLEY: Are you for or against? MRS. KATH: I just wanted them to know the background.