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We'd like to keep the trees too, and I guess I'm speaking in favor of the 29 foot plan. That would preserve as many trees as pos- sible. We already lost our tree to Dutch Elm disease. I talked to a forester today to find out what the prognosis is for the rest of the trees and he says, though the Dutch Elm disease now seems to be in sort of a recession, it's a cyclical kind of thing, and we've had a mild winter and they would expect an increase in the bark beetles and there still is no cure that isn't very expensive and only lasts a short period of time. So, as much as I think we'd hate to lose the trees, I wonder whether in time we're not going to lose them anyway. I think Dutch Elm disease came to this country 50 years ago, when it first was entered in New York in 1930, and it hasn't gone away and they haven't found a cure and the cures they're using now last about two years, according to the forester, after which time you have to repeat it and it affects the tree just to treat the tree. You have to physically abuse the tree in order to treat it. In time, that too could kill the trees. I think the trees are important, but I'm just wondering - are we really going to be able to keep them anyway? I would like to keep as many as we can. I think the street, in its present condition, really detracts from the neighborhood. I realize that's all in the eyes of the beholder, but I drive it and have driven it for years and years and it's a bumpy, irregu- lar, meandering kind of street, with an undefined edge where my grass presumably meets the bituminous. I hardly know where to quit mowing because half of the gravel, or material on the street, is up in the yard. No one has really been able to maintain their yard right along the so-called gutter line. There really is no gutter line. We don't have major ponding problems, but the water doesn't drain well. If I sprinkle my yard I get a puddle right in front of the yard in the street. That doesn't drain. I'm sure that a properly installed curb and gutter with proper drain- age on the curb and gutter would give us much better drainage. Incidentally, I'm a civil engineer, I'm a structural engineer, I'm registered in the State of Minnesota, and I don't work for the City of Roseville. I think one of the points that some of our neighbors are missing is that, in the long run, and as an engineer I think I can say this, I think Mr. Honchell has said it already - it's going to be cheaper for us all. I think the Council is to be commended for undertaking this permanent street improvement program. I realize you get a lot of flak, but I think it's foresighted on the part of the Council to undertake the program now and in the long run you're going to save us all some money. I realize the initial burden is high, but I think it's going to pay for itself. I guess also, since we're only paying a fourth of it now, I suppose there's nothing in the future that would suggest that the City had to stay at a fourth either, that we could be paying more than that in the future. I asked my own real estate man at work what he thought about curbs, gutters and street improvements, does it improve the value, and he said it certainly does because it's a potential assess- ment (inaudible) if it isn't in. For that reason, it does improve it. If I can spend $1.00 and get $4.00 worth of street that's going to enhance the neighborhood and enhance my property, then to me it's worth it. That wouldn't be true of everybody. I think construction costs are going to continue to rise. I think we're lucky right now, we're in sort of a lull. Because 6